When Socialist Math Doesn't Add Up

Summary

The Rob Carson Show – “When Socialist Math Doesn't Add Up”
Date: August 4, 2026 (Hour 3)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show delivers Carson’s trademark blend of humor, political insight, and pointed criticism, focusing sharply on the economics and politics of “socialist” policies in New York City—particularly those enacted by Mayor Zoran Mandami. Across the hour, Carson mocks taxpayer-funded hotel contracts for the homeless, skewers the plan for city-run grocery stores, and features an extended interview with Marley Hornick, CEO of Real America Vote, about alleged election fraud and voter roll concerns. The episode is a lively indictment of progressive policy failures and perceived corruption, furnished with parody, personal anecdotes, and guest commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Zoran Mandami’s Political Star Fading

[00:31–03:15]

• Carson highlights growing backlash against NY Mayor Zoran Mandami, particularly among 9/11 families who do not want him at the 25th Anniversary Memorial.
• “The 60,000 plus female families have said we don’t want him at the 911 memorial. And that speaks volumes about the side that patriotic New Yorkers feel he’s on.” (Rob Carson, 00:47)
• Cites a 7% rise in hate crimes against Jews in NYC since Mandami took office.
• Asserts Mandami’s political identity is “Islamist first,” which he claims is cynically masked by progressive alliances.

2. Bronx Hotel Homeless Contracts: Socialism & Fiscal Irresponsibility

[03:15–05:00]

• NYC administration awarded nearly $2 billion for hotel shelters; Bronx Borough President calls this “insane.”
• Carson decries spending $81,000 per homeless person yearly.
• Accuses NGOs of siphoning funds and criticizes use of expensive hotels for sheltering migrants and homeless.

3. Michigan Senate Race & the “Fake Populism” of Progressives

[05:00–06:30]

• Examines Michigan’s Democratic primary between Haley Stevens and Abdul Al Sayed, contending that Stevens presents a stronger gubernatorial challenge.
• “Abdul Al Sayed...is behind Mike Rogers by three points already. How often do Republicans lead in races of significance in the country?...Because they used the polling to suppress the vote, make us feel like we can’t win.” (Rob Carson, 05:37)

4. NYC City-Run (Socialist) Grocery Stores: Doomed to Fail?

[06:30–15:00]

• Cites Jonathan Turley’s critique, comparing Mandami’s plan to Cuba’s rationed stores: 30 staples at 30% below market rate.
• “The math simply doesn’t add up for Mandami. Most grocery stores have a profit margin between 1 and 3%. To promise 30% below...is economically absurd.” (Rob Carson w/ Turley, 08:00)
• Details failures of similar government-run groceries in Chicago and Kansas City—millions spent, shelves empty.
• Carson lampoons the logic that real grocery stores are simply “price gougers”, stating city stores are “public charities.”
• Personal anecdotes about rising inflation: groceries, cars, eggs, and more, all pinned to the Biden administration.
• “I like to say that 55,000 is the new 35,000. In the car business, 55,000 is the new 35 thousand.” (Rob Carson, 10:45)

5. Identity Verification Controversy at City Grocery Stores

[12:16–15:00]

• Discussion about needing ID (like a library card) to receive discounts at city-run stores, juxtaposed with Democratic resistance to ID requirements for voting.
• Satirical song parody by Jim Gossett (as Al Sharpton) mocks ID rules for groceries vs. voting.
• “Socialism only works until you run out of other people’s money. It’s already dead.” (Rob Carson, 14:01)

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Key Interview Segment — Marley Hornick, Real America Vote

[21:45–36:26]

Timestamps below by topic/question:

6. Exposure of Alleged Voter Fraud in NYC Elections

[22:05]

• Hornick describes her study of 1 million ballots from Mandami’s election:
  • 7% were voters who do not exist
  • 6% had impossible/fake Social Security numbers
  • 10% didn't reside in NYC any time during relevant years
• “23% of the vote in that election was blatantly unqualified. And that made their certification a federal crime.” (Marley Hornick, 23:41)

7. Official Response & Ongoing Investigations

[25:08]

• NY officials, including AG Letitia James, launched a criminal investigation—not into election fraud but into Hornick’s organization.
• “...they already opened...a two year criminal investigation into me...for asking questions.”
• Federal authorities (Northern District, Albany FBI) are investigating her findings.

8. Political Fallout and Possibility of Change

[26:33]

• Discusses potential for a Republican governor if Bruce Blakeman can capitalize on dissatisfaction and legal discovery.
• “He can actually impeach Mumdani...That’s the only way right now on the books to get this guy out.” (Marley Hornick, 27:16)

9. Voter Fraud vs. Election Misconduct

[35:10]

• Hornick makes distinction: “I don’t think voter fraud is the big problem. I think it is election misconduct...the main problem is that the election officials who are supposed to restrict registration and voting...have abandoned it.”
• Critiques honor system in voter registration; contends Democrats benefit structurally.

10. Call to Action

[36:26]

• Hornick urges listeners to support Real America Vote’s research for expanded election audits.
• “This Mamdani study was paid for by citizens. And so if you want these studies to expand, if you want them to cover more states...please help us.” (Marley Hornick, 36:57)

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Additional Noteworthy Moments

11. Parody & Satire

• Carson inserts parody songs and comedic asides, especially targeting the ID/voting controversy and left/liberal talking points.

12. Critique of Mainstream/Progressive Media

• Carson mocks climate activist Dorothy Fortenberry—who suggests Hallmark Christmas movies should “show less snow” to reflect climate change realities.
  • “No, you should, because it fricking snows in the wintertime.” (Rob Carson, 39:07)
  • Dismisses her as an example of “insane cat ladies from hell.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:31–03:15]: NY election fraud and Mandami’s 9/11 memorial controversy
• [03:15–05:00]: Homeless hotel contract outrage; NY spending stats
• [05:00–06:30]: Michigan Senate/gubernatorial race analysis
• [06:30–15:00]: Socialized grocery store segment—math and politics
• [12:16–15:00]: ID policy satire, parody song
• [21:45–36:26]: Extended interview with Marley Hornick on election integrity
• [38:29–40:28]: Hallmark Channel/climate change parody and episode close

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Memorable Quotes

• “The math simply doesn’t add up for Mandami.”
• “Socialism only works until you run out of other people’s money. It’s already dead.”
• “23% of the vote in that election was blatantly unqualified.” (Marley Hornick)
• “I have no doubt that...the Democrat Party and the leftist media would have audacity to say that there’s no voter fraud in America. It is so utterly ridiculous...”
• “At Mandami’s grocery stores, you’re getting through the doors with no ID, 30 items.” (Song parody, 13:14)
• “This Mamdani study was paid for by citizens. And so if you want these studies to expand...please help us.” (Marley Hornick)

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

Carson’s take is relentlessly skeptical of progressive programs, using humor, sarcasm, and conservative populist rhetoric. The episode provides a stark ideological critique, mocking the claimed economic illogic of “socialist” experiments in NYC, amplifying concerns about election integrity, and warning of further political consequences if trends continue.

Listeners are left with a call to action: support election audits, resist “socialist” policy creep, and stay engaged for upcoming elections.

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For more:

• Marley Hornick: RealAmericaVote.org, @marleyhornick1 on X/Truth Social
• The Rob Carson Show: Newsmax Podcasts

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Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Marley Hornick]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Caller or Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

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This is hour number three of the Rob Carson show. Joining us at the bottom of the hour. I'm quite excited about this. I played audio from her when she was on with. Sid Rosenberg broke the story that they had discovered some real fraud regarding the election of Zoran Mandami. A whole bunch of questionable ballots, Social Security numbers and whatnot. And they said that the number of fraudulent votes exceeded his margin of victory, which is I think 230,000 votes. And, and I don't think, I think Mondami is popular with the elite liberals, you know, in, in Manhattan and whatnot. But I think that his, I think, I have a feeling his star is beginning to fade as we approach the the 25th anniversary of 9 11. The 60,000 plus female families have said we don't want him at the 911 memorial. And that speaks volumes about the side that patriotic New Yorkers feel he's on. That's. That's big. Then you also got a report today that hate crimes are up in New York City 7% against Jewish people since Mondavi took office. Because I told you. I told you what he ran. What was he first? What was he first? He was. Is he Marxist first? Is he communist first? No, he's Islamist first. He's Islamist first because he is loved by all of the radical imams in these, in the city of New York even though he's very pro LGBTQIA plus and all that nonsense. What does that mean? They know he's Islamist first. They know he's using them as useful idiots. Same goes with liberal Jews in New York City. So I have a feeling the bud will be off of his rose. Bronx leader slams Mandami's administration's nearly $2 billion hotel contracts for homeless shelters. What? What the hell? When, when did we decide that homeless people should be able to stay in hotels on our tax dollars? Hotels that you and I can't freaking afford when we're scraping by to barely pay our mortgage payments? I mean, are you serious? Bronx Borough President Vanessa Gibson slammed the Mondavi administration's decision to award a 1.86 billion dollar contract for hotels across five boroughs to provide emergency space for homeless, calling it insane. You know why? Because it's insane. Remember what they did during the Biden administration? They, they, they put up people at the Roosevelt Hotel. It's $500 a night, $500 a night. These people coming from, you know, all of these countries around the world, sneaking across the southern border, took care of their daycare, took care of their diapers, took care of their food, ate like kings, did their laundry for them, for God's sake. Apparently, Mandami is not over that. The Post awarded that $1.86 billion contract to the Hotel association of New York City foundation represents 300 hotels to provide emergency shelter to people experiencing homelessness. Now, you go to a homeless shelter, you go to a homeless shelter. There you go. But they're going to spend $1.86 billion on hotels. I believe I saw a study that New York spends $81,000 per homeless unhoused person per year. $81,000. I don't have the story in front of me because I got a giant stack of paper in front of me, but There you go, $81,000. You know, two people in a household in New York, each one making 81,000. That comes out to $162,000 a year than the per capita income of the average person in New York City. And they're able to survive on it and pay their rent and stuff. But of course, a bunch of NGOs get the money they spend the least on, on the, the homeless and then pocket the rest of it. So there is, there is that. There is that. Oh, let's look at the, the, the run for the, the primary in Senate in the state of Michigan. You got this. Haley Stevens, who is, I guess, kind of either returning to her colloquial roots or just faking it in. And she's taken on this Abdul Al Sayed. It looks like Sayed is going to win. Here is Haley this morning.

[Guest or Caller]

Michigan moment right now. You know, I want to be Michigander's voice you all have been hearing. Someone told me earlier this morning, I like how she sounds. She sounds like me. She sounds like my family. I am going to make darn sure that Michigan is heard in the halls of power. That is why people should vote for me. I am Michigan's fighter, Whipper snapper, energetic.

[Rob Carson]

She actually used the word whippersnapper. I was actually joking with a friend of mine and I was talking about her, and I literally last night use the word whippersnapper.

[Guest or Caller]

Vote for me. I am Michigan's fighter whippersnapper. Energetic, you know, take no, you know, junk from anybody and I'm a tough, tough as nails Democrat.

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

So I think that she would be more of a challenge in the, in the race for governor against Mike Rogers than Abdul Al Sayed. And right now, Abdul Al Sayed, who's expected to win is, is behind Mike Rogers by three points already. How often do Republicans lead in races of significance in the country? How often do they lead? Very rarely. Why? Because. Because they used the polling to suppress the vote, make us feel like we can't win. He's already ahead by three points. And Michigan has been moving right for a while. I mean, dramatically right for a while. And Donald Trump carried Michigan in the presidential election in 2024. And Donald Trump is bringing manufacturing back to Michigan. And Donald Trump has a lot of support from the unions, heavy equipment, cars, the whole deal. Bringing back manufacturing. Really, really green energy, socialists, really. I don't think it's going to end very well for Abdul said in the, in the state of Michigan. But I could be wrong. I'm generally pretty right about these things. So there is that. There is that. Let's. Oh, I got to talk about this. I got to talk about the grocery stores in New York City. Zoran Mandami is going to do these, going to these grocery stores, these, these socialized grocery stores in America. Let me find the piece, couple pieces here. This is by Jonathan Turley. Jonathan Turley, talking about the grocery stores. Now, these are already a boondoggle. They're already a boondoggle. They're already going to lose money because they've got to spend these millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars to build the damn things. That's all taxpayer money. Then he's going to magically cut prices on 30 staples by 30%. So what he's doing is he's creating a grocery store like they have in Cuba. And they have a very limited number of items that are available that you can get and they most definitely will be rationed. This is Jonathan Turley's piece. What Mondame described was a discount food bank dressed up as a grocery standing in front of blackboard saying reduce 30%. Mondami sounded like a bodega hawker. Once a month, our five city run grocery stores will set prices of this core set of goods at 30% below typical retail prices. No exceptions, no gimmicks. The Mandami markets are new variations of an old New York grift selling gold watches for $5. The dupes want to believe that somehow the street vendor surreptitiously displaying watches inside his Overcoat actually have found a way to sell gold watches for just a few bucks. The math simply doesn't add up for Mandami. Most grocery stores have a profit margin between 1 and 3%. To promise 30% below discount, below market rate that cannot be adjusted due to monthly market fluctuation is economically absurd. They're already failing. They haven't even been opened yet and they're already failing. It is not a description of a competitive grocery, but a public charity. It's a quasi food bank where taxpayers subsidize the cost. That's what it's going to be. He's not reinventing anything. We just saw it in Chicago with seven grocery stores. They tried the same damn thing, put $13 million in. They did it in Kansas City. I accidentally stumbled into grocery store last year and I went, what the hell is going on? There was nothing on the shelves. The deli wasn't open. It was right before it was put out of business. They put $22 million into it and it failed. He suggests that real grocery stores are simply price gougers, hoarding windfall profits from consumers. He ignores that they must pay rent, upkeep and fees, all things that city run stores may simply right off. If you are willing to take a bath on sales, you can always offer the affordable prices for as long as your excess cash holds out. In Mandami's case, he has the credit of New York City to draw on to compete against mom and dad pop bodegas. Real stores are competing in one of the tightest markets in the world and are grappling with a 33% national increase in costs since 2019, when Joe Biden took over and groceries went through the ceiling. We can, we can trace it all back to Joe Biden. I lived it. I watched it every single day. I was selling cars. I saw it. I saw the price of. I do all the shopping in my family. I watched it. I watched chicken breasts at Walmart. They were A$88 a pound. You can't get them on sale. You get them on sale for 298. I saw salmon, which used to be on sale for $7.99. Now the cheapest you can get it is 12 bucks a pound. And I saw the price of beef. You could get rib eye for $9.99 on sale. You can't get ribeye below $16 a pound. Now that all happened during the Joe Biden administration. I watched it in real time. If it's leveled off, the price of eggs has dropped. But you can pin this all on Joe Biden because it happened during his four years, 9% inflation one year alone. When it came to cars, I was selling cars. I like to say that 55,000 is the new 35,000. In the car business, 55,000 is the new 35 thousand. In 2019 you could buy a Toyota Highlander XLE, mid priced, $37,000. That truck is $55,000. In 2019 you could buy a toyota Tundra for top end 1794, under $60,000. That truck is $85,000. Now, I was looking today at a well equipped RAV4 Hybrid. $47,000 for a freaking RAV4. That's what happened under Joe Biden. And then Zoran Mandami is countering that with a, with a project that is already failing. It's already failing. It's already sucking up money like a sponge and it will do a face plant within a year. On the other side of the break, they wanted you to present ID to go to one of these stores that he's opening and now he's saying, no, no, we don't want the id. They don't want any idea because he got so much grief about it. We got that on the other side of the break. Let's come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Guest or Caller]

How are you going to keep people from taking advantage of, you know, that deal, basically? And is there going to be a limit on the number of items that someone can take that are discounted at that level from that essential basket?

[Rob Carson]

So this is just getting bigger and dumber by the moment.

[Guest or Caller]

RFP makes very clear that this is a program for New Yorkers to be able to put food on the table, not a program for people to be able to make a quick buck through reselling. I'm going to pass it over to our EDC head, JPAC to add some additional details.

[Rob Carson]

Sure.

[Guest or Caller]

Yes.

[Marley Hornick]

If you look at our RFP for the operator, we are looking to make sure that we target New Yorkers whether it be at sort of a library card exit. And also we manage who's buying and that is focused on every day.

[Rob Carson]

You got to show an ID is what she said is a library card and moved right on there. You got to know, you show an id. Jim Gossett put this together about having an ID to buy groceries at the food bank. As Al Sharpton on the Rob Carson

show in Madonna's grocery stores, you are getting through the doors with no ID, 30 items.

The rest will be normal price.

An ID with a photograph. You must show the staff that lid. It must be. When it comes to voting. Well, that's another thing, a different tune. Us Democrats will say it's gonna fail.

It already is.

We admit that we're gonna cheat. Cause we'll go down to defeat when Votin's fair. Mom Donnie's latest ID moves only proves to New York he doesn't care.

Yeah, he's a fool.

At mom Donnie's grocery stores, you'll be stopped. You cannot shop with no id.

The first city run grocery store in East Harlem will cost $30 million to build. So you're already in a 30 million dollar hole. You are going to propose selling groceries at 30% under the market rate when your profit margins are 1 to 3%. It's already dead. It's already dead. Socialism only works until you run out of other people's money. It's already dead. Oh, here's Mondani saying no, no. He's telling Joy Reid, no, we never wanted an id. What do you think?

[Guest or Caller]

We're talking about a city run grocery store, one in each borough, which, by the way, you do not need an ID to shop at, no matter what you've just heard in the news of today. We're talking about.

[Rob Carson]

So what's going to prevent wealthy people from shopping?

[Marley Hornick]

There's.

[Rob Carson]

What's going to prevent people who aren't poor from shopping there?

[Guest or Caller]

Actually, addressing the question of skyrocketing grocery prices, we've seen in the last six or seven years alone, an increase in grocery prices of around 30%.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you. Joe Biden. That's when it happened. There's no doubt about it. It happened under Joe Biden's presidency. I know it. I lived it. I saw it. I want to go to Joe in Richmond, Virginia. Hello, Joe. Welcome to the Rob Carson Show. What's on your mind today?

[Caller or Guest]

Hello. I wanted to say thank you for being on the John Fredericks radio network.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yes.

[Caller or Guest]

Every day. But the other side of this, the backside of it, is who is supplying the grocery stores? Because if they are taking a cut to supply these grocery stores, they're going to have to make that up with their other accounts that pay regular price.

[Rob Carson]

So the only thing, I don't know how you could do that. Nobody's going to sell their wholesale goods to a government store at a loss. The only thing that can happen, they're going to sell it to the government store for the same price they sell it to everybody else. It's just the government store has the, I guess, whatever. Faith and credit New York City has to, to be able to sell them at 30% below, lose their asses on it and, and, and still pull it off. I mean, look, they're already 30 million. One store. $30 million. That's ins. $30 million selling groceries and just pay off the mortgage on that is impossible. But they don't have to do it because it's just the money is already down the toilet. They're starting off in a net negative anyway, Joe.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah, but that's normal for any Democrat or socialist communist.

[Rob Carson]

And you know, the thing is, and this is the thing about these ignoramuses, they think. And, you know, I've heard the cliche, I remember when I was in high school and I had one of my liberal friends and I didn't know what liberalism, conservatism was, but they would say things like, you communism really is the best form of government because everybody is equal. The problem is it just hasn't been done properly. No, it left 100 million people in body pits last century. It's never worked. You know, we started an experiment in socialism in Jamestown, Virginia, you know, before the United States was founded, and it failed. And it failed. And it always fails. It always ends in division, poverty, starvation, lack of choice, etc. But these fools think they're going to come in and they're going to, you know, because they've only got a few years on the planet and they haven't seen any history, that somehow they're going to turn it around and it's not going to work. Joe.

[Marley Hornick]

Yep, Absolutely.

[Rob Carson]

What you do, what do you do down in Richmond, by the way? What do you do in Richmond?

[Caller or Guest]

I do some consulting. I also help with the conservative effort down here when I can.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I think that. I think that the state of Virginia is much further more conservative than. Than we give it credit for. Fairfax and Loudoun counties are the two counties that make, make people think that Virginia has gone Democrat. But not so much. There's a. There's a wave rising in the state of Virginia, I think, especially since Abigail Scamberglar took over.

[Caller or Guest]

What do you think it was rising. It was rising. Back in 2020. I had a contract up in Loudoun county and I actually entire Northern Virginia. I did five counties for this client and I saw Trump signs everywhere. I wore my MAGA gear. People were screaming, thumbs up, the whole bit. I barely saw Biden signs. They did steal Virginia back then. I am convinced of that 100%. I know you had talked about coming down to the Flying Squirrels. Yeah, please come on down. I'M going to tour buddy up in D.C. i'll hop the train.

[Rob Carson]

All right. Very good. I appreciate. I got to run. I got to run. Joe, thank you for calling. I do appreciate it. I do. I am proud to call Virginia my home now. And. And rather than leave Virginia, I am going to lead the fight against Abigail Scam Burglar and the Democrat Party. They've already gotten their rear ends handed to them. They tried to gerrymander Republican representation out of the state. They keep forgetting that one of the license plates you can get in Virginia is the Gasden flag. Yeah, we're still very, very, very foundational. Let's take a break and come back. Coming up, Mondavi didn't win. We'll talk about it. This isn't the end of a fight. It's the start of one. Lioness, the critically acclaimed original series from Taylor Sheridan returns August 2nd only on Paramount. It's the new season. Hidden networks, foreign operatives and personal betrayals collide while Joe walks the line between duty and family. Don't miss Lioness, starring Zoe Saldana, Michael Kelly. With Morgan Freeman and Nicole Kidman. Now streaming on Paramount. Doug took Relief Factor for nearly a year before convincing his wife, a special needs teacher, to try it. She had been using assistance just to move through the long hallway at school. Now she's back on her feet every day. Never had to leave the job she loves. I can attest to this. I ride my mountain bike every weekend from 30 to 50 miles. I lift weights and I'm lifting heavier than I did when I was 30 without pain. People like Doug make it easy to find out if you'll be the next person telling us Relief Factor gave you what you love. Three weeks for just $17.76. Simply go to relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief. We hope you'll be sharing your story with us, too. Reliefactor.com or 1-800-for- relief.

[Marley Hornick]

Is that the New York City and the New York State Boards of Elect elections have no idea if Mamdani won the mayoral I actually don't know whether Mamdani won the mayoral race, and I'm not here to say that he didn't. The problem we uncovered is that the New York City and the New York State Boards of Elections have no idea if Mamdani won the mayoral election either. Let's look at their official records.

[Rob Carson]

I'll let actually Marley Hornick give us the details. She's my new hero. I've been following her since she was on Sid Rosenberg show at wabc. And we are really proud and glad to have. Joining us on the Rob Carson show, the CEO of Real America. Vote Marlee, welcome to the show.

[Marley Hornick]

Hey Rob, it's so great to be on with you. Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

Oh my God. I played your audio last week or maybe the week before. Over and over and over again. You did some digging into Zoran Mandami's vote base and you analyzed what, a million voters, a million ballots. And what did you discover about some of these, these Mondami voters?

[Marley Hornick]

Well, we asked a really simple question, Rob, because a lot of this election stuff is so dense, we made it simple. The second sentence of the constitution says that the state of New York is required to qualify every voter according to their state eligibility laws. So we looked at Mamdani's election. We asked for the official records from the New York City and New York State boards of elections and we said see if they qualify the voters. And it turns out they really failed horrifically. Okay. 7% of the voters don't exist. They don't exist at all. Six percent have Social Security numbers that SSA.gov identifies as impossible, fake and invalid. And 10% of the so called voters did not live in New York City anytime during the entire year of 2020, 2025. And that includes like a January through November. Okay. They, they weren't, they didn't have skin in the game. Right. They didn't have any right to vote there.

[Rob Carson]

Okay. How were they able to vote?

[Marley Hornick]

Well, I don't know. That's not actually, that's, that's not your problem. It's not my problem. Whose problem it is, is the New York City and New York State boards of elections. Because 23% of the vote in that election was blatantly unqualified. And that made their certification a federal crime.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, absolutely. So you discovered that when you added up all of the fraudulent non existent voters, it actually exceeded his margin of victory by how many?

[Marley Hornick]

Well, what we looked at, it's over his margin of victory by about 20,000 votes. But again, like you said, we only looked at 1 million of the voters. There are 1.2 million voters who voted in that election that we could still study. But like we only took it so far in this first round.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest or Caller]

What.

[Rob Carson]

How has, I would assume there that nothing is happening in the state of New York with regard to interest in this story from people like, I don't know, Kathy Hochul or, or anybody associated with New York politics. Have you gotten the attention of anybody on the national scene with regard to what you've discovered, have you, have you gotten some interest from maybe the DOJ to look into this? What's going on since you discovered this?

[Marley Hornick]

Right. Well, let me just clarify that. Kathy Hochul, Leticia James and their cohort, not only are they ignoring this study, but they already opened Years ago, in 2023, they opened a two year criminal investigation into me and my organization under the PAY act for asking questions. So what I can say that is a positive is thank God for the US Attorney in the Northern District of New York, John Sarcon, who I have been meeting with for over a year now, about a year and a half. And they had already, because we ran some pilot studies like this on the 2024 election in. They already had verified the methodology. They had agreed that we had actually found votes counted from people who don't exist. They verified and validated that. And so right now, his office and the Albany FBI field office are aggressively investigating this issue. And they're getting ready to meet with the Southern District also, because as you may or may not realize, Jay Clayton is headed over to DNI. So there's an incoming U.S. attorney for New York City.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

I've heard that Kavi Hochul is barely ahead in the governor's race. It sounds like there's a real possibility that New York could have a Republican governor. What do you suppose happens when, if and when that happens?

[Marley Hornick]

Well, you know, it's an interesting question because I have got to be the biggest thorn in Albany's side. I actually have a federal lawsuit in Albany right now against, against Kiss James and the New York State Board of Elections that the judge, it accuses them of First Amendment violations and it accuses them also of usurping the constitutional right to vote and choose representatives from the citizens of New York. Right now the judge decided that she isn't quite ready after eight months to rule on the state's motion to dismiss. She says, she says she's going to decide that in due course, which I think is when health reasons over.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much.

[Marley Hornick]

But to your question, when that lawsuit hits discovery, it is projected to give Blakeman a plus three. And he's only down by three right now. And actually, something interesting he can do that no one else in the entire country can do, but if he becomes governor, he can actually impeach Mumdani. That's the only way right now on the books to get this guy out. So we have to have a fair election in November for sure.

[Rob Carson]

Do you think that Mondami is as popular as they say he is.

[Marley Hornick]

No, not at all. I mean just look at any X speed covering New York City. The citizens of New York are appalled by his attack on prosperity, his attack on the Jewish citizens in New York and so many other issues that are just shocking, I think. And some of these people admittedly voted for him, but now they, you know, they, some of them have buyer's remorse and some of them saw the thing coming. And then of course you have some nut jobs that are probably should just, we should put them all in the Smithsonian together, you know, and just let them live there in happiness. They did vote for him and they still believe in him. They don't think that private property is a big deal.

[Rob Carson]

Well, they're self loathing. There are a lot of self loathing Jews, there are a lot of self loathing liberals in New York City. The queers for Palestine and the Jews for, you know, for Hamas. I don't even know. But there's a lot of that nonsense. I mean really, I don't understand it. I don't understand. It's the same pathos that causes women to fall in love with death row inmates. They have this self loathing about them and even if it means their own death or possibility of it, there they get some sort of, I guess it's some sort of kink. Not even sure what it is. But I have a funny feeling that he has, he has reached his zenith and his star is going to begin to fall. Can you, Marley, can you hold on through the break? I have many more questions. There are a lot of other things going on in the state of New York, the city of New York City. Can you hold on? Would you mind doing that?

[Marley Hornick]

Absolutely no problem.

[Rob Carson]

I love having you on. Let's take a break and come back more with Marley Hornick. Real America Vote. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Caller or Guest]

Kathy Hochul is the most pro criminal governor in the United States of America. Think about it. She gave Zoran Mandami a five billion dollar bailout.

Yes.

With any conditions that he hires new cops and he hasn't hired any new Cop. 48 utility rate hikes. Our electric bills are 70% higher than the national average. I will lower your electric bills. Kathy Hochul. You're the worst governor in the United States of America. Go to Blakeman fournewyork.com There you go.

[Rob Carson]

That is new ad. I've been seeing all of the place on my timeline this morning for Bruce Blakeman and I'm hoping that he boots Kathy Hochul's rear end the hell out of office. Joining us on the Newsmax hotline is Marley Hornick, CEO of Real America Vote, who discovered that many of Zoran Mandami's voters Non existent. Non existent. Back to Kathy Hochul. I saw this this morning, Marley. Several prominent Long Island Democrats are leaving Kathy Hochul off their endorsement pages of their campaign websites, raising questions about whether candidates of in one of the New York's most competitive regions are distancing self from the top of the party statewide ticket. I. That's the gut, the feeling I get. And I don't even live there.

[Marley Hornick]

Right. Well, are they. Is she even the top of the statewide ticket anymore? Because she's following Mamdani around like a puppy handing him checks. You know, here's another treat. Here's another bone. Go ahead, puppy. I mean, he is dragging her all over creation, just like, you know, just like the DSA is now dragging Schumer and Jeffries around. You know, it's like they're the actual minority leadership in Congress, but Mamdani is the person who decides what's on their platform.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, and I'm already seeing things like in the. The race in Michigan, Sayed wins. He's already three points down. I saw in the state of Wisconsin, this Francesca Hong, should she become the candidate. She's already three points down to the Republican candidate. I think this DSA thing is not going to fly nationally. They're full of their arrogance and hubris. They feel like because they won a few of these small races that. But I really think they've overplayed their hand. I really do, Marlon.

[Marley Hornick]

Yeah, well, it's nice to think that way. And I agree. But if they're relying on fake voters and people with Social Security numbers to get into office, the threat is not limited to their appeal.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that's true. Do you suppose that Harmeet Dillon's efforts have. Have helped in the state of New York and other states? I mean, I had heard. Oh, Scott. Scott Pressler talked about how that they were cleaning the voter rolls in Pennsylvania and they're about 30,000 votes from flipping the state Republican. More Republican registrants than not. That's not happening in New York, apparently.

[Marley Hornick]

No. And the DOJ case, U.S. v. New York, you know, trying to get the copy of the unredacted voter rolls from New York state so they can do exactly what RealAmerica Vote is doing, which is running the Social Security numbers and find out who these people are really. The state denied them access. The judge ruled same Judges. In my case, just to be clear, the judge ruled that, you know, this is a privacy issue, but actually it's very different than that. And the judges in all these cases are completely incorrect. The DOJ wants to vindicate the only active duty the American citizens have in the United States Constitution, which is to choose Congress. And if the states are not qualifying the voters, if they're registering fake people and letting them vote, registering illegals or people who have bought Social Security numbers for whatever reason, somehow letting them vote, the state is in breach of contract with the United States Constitution at sentence two. And the rights of the citizens to choose has to be vindicated. So, you know, this is the only argument I have with the way Harmeet is handling those cases. And I did file amicus brief briefs in New York, Pennsylvania, I helped with one in Maryland and a couple other states because the DOJ arguments are great, but they're not going to get us over the hurdle. They need to say, we're not about, you know, looking at your data on a federal interest. Our federal responsibility is to vindicate the rights of the citizens of your state that you're screwing over when you do this.

[Rob Carson]

I have no doubt that there is. You know, and what's really remarkable is that the Democrat Party and the leftist media would have audacity to say that there's no voter fraud in America. It is so utterly ridiculous to, To. To say such a thing when it is. I mean, it's a punchline. In cities like Chicago and New York, it is a, it is a punchline. It is a known factor in, in places like Cincinnati, where I have lived. And, and, and then, of course, you also hear the DHS came up in four states. 250,000 illegals registered to vote. Marley Hornick, let me ask you this question. Why do people register to vote? What do they expect to do when they register to vote?

[Marley Hornick]

I think they're intending to vote, actually.

[Rob Carson]

Is that what it is?

[Marley Hornick]

Thinking that that's what they might want to do? You know, but I have to say there is. I have one point of agreement with Chuck Schumer and all the rest of them on this issue. I don't think that voter fraud is the big problem. I think it is election misconduct. Okay? I don't want to blame this on the voters. There are voters who double vote every year. When we run these audits in New York, we find some people that probably did double vote, and we always hand that over to authorities. But the main problem is that the election officials who are supposed to restrict Registration and voting to those qualified by law have abandoned it. They decided, no, we're just going to have the honor system. And that way, for whatever reason, and maybe it's just a coincidence, Rob, but the Democrats keep gaining House seats and they keep gaining more and more power with that scheme.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, it is a scheme, very clearly. And, and we could go on and on about this. There's much more to cover. But Marley Hornick, CEO of Real America Vote, I really appreciate you being on and I would love to have you on more often as we approach the midterms. I greatly appreciate the work you've done there and the expose you did on Zoran Mondame. Where can people find your glorious organization? How can we help you out?

[Marley Hornick]

Yeah, we can just come to Real America Vote and you can also follow me on X. Marley Hornick 1 or real America vote on X and Truth Social. And I just, you know, Rob, I really appreciate that. I'd love to come on whenever you want. And I just want to let everybody realize that this Mamdani study was paid for by citizens. And so if you want these studies to expand, if you want them to cover more states, if you want to see more elections incorporated, and if you want to really win this fight, finally, please help us.

[Rob Carson]

All right. RealAmerica vote. Marley Hornick, you are welcome anytime, my friend. Thanks for your time today. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. This is not an evil and it never will be. But I will tell you, I do a hybrid. Hell yeah, I do a hybrid. Toyota announced that. Toyota announced that their RAV4, they're going to get rid of just the straight gas model and go with hybrid vehicle or a plug in hybrid, which I'm perfectly cool with. I'm absolutely cool with it. They more horsepower, better gas mileage holding. I wish Brock my Bronco Buck or a hybrid because he gets 13 and a half miles per gallon. 13 and a half miles per gallon. But I still love him. This is pretty funny, I gotta tell you. Liberal women are freaking insane. Insane cat ladies from hell. I want you to listen this Dorothy Fortenberry. Dorothy Fortenberry, a writer and producer on the show the Handmaid's Tale. Dear God, if I had to watch that. Oh my God in hell. Says Hallmark should show less snow during its Christmas movies because of the impact on climate change. This is so bloody stupid. She's at some sort of a climate summit. But she did the Handmaid Tale and she says that Hallmark's movies even at Christmas Time should show less snow because of climate change.

But there's also just the act of portraying reality as it is. And if you just made a regular show where the weather in your show mirrored the weather that we're all living

through, what we're all living through. It rained here on Sunday and it snowed last winter, and it's been doing that for thousands of years.

That would end up conveying, you know, there would be days where the sky was full of smoke.

Yeah, it's Canada. Wildfires.

You know, we're still making all of our Hallmark Christmas specials with snow. Probably we shouldn't.

No, you should, because it fricking snows in the wintertime.

You know, you don't have to have people sit around and say, like, oh, well, this is because of.

Oh, my God, can you just imagine

being married to this, you know, carbon? And this is, you know, you can if that's part of your Hallmark Christmas special. But you even just having the lived experience of people on TV shows mirror what we're all actually.

Oh, just shut up and make a stupid TV show.

Going through would be an enormous step forward without any other changes.

Oh, I get so.

[Guest or Caller]

Oh,

[Rob Carson]

you know, thanks for another reason not ever to watch the Hallmark Channel. Can I tell you right now, I've never seen one minute of programming on the Hallmark Channel, and I never will because I have man parts and I have testosterone and. And I mean. I mean, I don't care what was sitting on the couch with me. I ain't gonna watch the Hallmark Channel with you. It's not gonna happen. I'm gonna be back on Monday. God bless you, America's founded Donald Trump. To hell with Dorothy Fortenberry and the Hallmark Channel. God bless you guys. I love you and I'll see you then. Don't catch the stupid.

[Marley Hornick]

See.