White Privilege & Government Cheese

Summary

The Rob Carson Show — "White Privilege & Government Cheese"

Date: May 13, 2026
Podcast: The Rob Carson Show (Newsmax Podcasts)
Host: Rob Carson
Episode Theme: Satirical and analyst-driven exploration of race, media narratives, political division, government dependency, and economic conditions, incorporating humor, personal anecdotes, and Newsmax-oriented commentary.

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles the framing of race and racism in America, the concept of white privilege, the alleged manipulation by political actors and media, and corruption involving government welfare programs. With his trademark humor and biting critiques, Rob Carson scrutinizes political developments, satirizes ideological opponents, and shares both personal experiences and national commentary on recent news. The conversation explores historical and cultural shifts in discussions around racism and government assistance and ends with a segment on gold investment and economic outlook.

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Key Segments and Insights

1. Race, Racism & Media Narratives

Timestamps: [00:45]–[21:23]

• Main Argument:
  Rob Carson asserts that the narrative of rising racism is largely fabricated and fueled for political gain. He traces contemporary race-baiting back to the Obama era, arguing it’s a deliberate divisive strategy by Democrats and the media.

  • Quote:

    "This all started with Barack Obama, a spoiled, entitled adult child who was raised by white grandparents... He knew he could use race to move forward with a lack of credentials and experience." (Rob Carson, [01:20])

• Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC):
  Carson discusses recent allegations of SPLC funding racist organizations to stoke racial tension and raise money, describing the organization’s "12 years a psyop" since 2012.

  • Quote:

    "Now you cannot question that America is a racist country... The reason they did this is because they wanted to divide us along racism lines, keep us divided." (Rob Carson, [02:36])

• Historical Perspective:
  Carson reminisces on Generation X's relative colorblindness growing up, compared to the hyper-racialized present. Television, music, and interracial relationships were normalized.

• Memorable Analogy:

  "If somebody fell asleep in 1896 and woke up today in 2026, they would simply say the only difference is now Negroes have a TV show and we wear nice suits." (Guest Commentator, [06:56])

• Guest Commentaries—Media Compilation:
  The episode stitches together soundbites of journalists and commentators discussing "white privilege," "persistent infection in white American culture," and labeling white supremacy as the top domestic terror threat.

  • Montage:

    "White people need to listen more." (Multiple voices, [09:48])
    "Of course it’s real [white privilege]. And I’m white and I have it." (Mark Meadows, [10:19])
    "No, it's not." (Rob Carson, interjecting, [10:29])

2. Personal Stories: Poverty, 'Privilege,' and Government Cheese

Timestamps: [13:31]–[16:13]

• "Government Cheese" Childhood:
  Carson reflects humorously on growing up poor—receiving government cheese, working in the fields, owning only one pair of shoes a year—contrasting this with accusations of "white privilege."

  • Quote:

    "We were so poor, we got government cheese... But we were somehow privileged somehow. And I just thought that was always absurd." (Rob Carson, [13:51])

• Critique of Political Rhetoric:
  He denounces current accusations that efforts to reduce gerrymandering or voter ID laws are designed to suppress black votes, calling these claims "just stupid."

3. Political Manipulation of Racism and Gerrymandering

Timestamps: [16:13]–[21:23]

• Carl Higbee Commentary:
  Newsmax’s Carl Higbee attributes much of the media's focus on racism to strategic amplification by liberal outlets since Obama’s presidential run. Carson and Higbee argue the "racism" narrative is used to discredit Republican opposition and control the political landscape.

  • Quote:

    "Democrats have convinced their entire party that if they're not in control, it's somehow Jim Crow 2.0." (Carl Higbee, [16:14]) "Race relations in America cratered. Nothing else changed except the media and Democrats screaming racism." (Carl Higbee, [18:00])

• SPLC Satire (Jim Gossett):
  A satirical ditty marks the SPLC’s reported downfall following scandals:

  "They were funding Nazis and KKK. They’ll be closing down any day..." (Jim Gossett, [19:21])

4. Economic Discussion: Gold, Inflation, and the Housing Market

Timestamps: [23:57]–[31:23]

• Gold Investment Guest Segment:
  Carson interviews precious metals expert Philip Patrick about the gold market’s volatility, central bank buying trends, global instability (Iran war), U.S. inflation, and the new Federal Reserve Chair.

  • Quote:

    "I think it’s a great selection [for Fed Chair]... I don’t think we’re going to see any interest rate cut this year, maybe next year." (Philip Patrick, [28:02])

• K-Shaped Recovery:
  Patrick describes how economic growth benefits the top while the working class struggles—rising credit card debt, “buy now, pay later” for groceries—despite positive macro numbers.

  • Quote:

    "Growth at the top keeps the averages looking respectable while the bottom half is struggling and using finance, pay later for groceries." (Philip Patrick, [29:19])

5. Deep State, Trump Administration, and Political Intrigue

Timestamps: [33:22]–[38:54]

• Undercover Video Scandal:
  Carson and Newsmax report on former White House staffers caught admitting to internal subversion against Trump—labeled by Carson as "deep staters" still embedded in the government.

  • Quote:

    "If you worked in a company and you talk this way about the CEO, you’d be fired as well." (Rob Carson, [34:33])

• Mark Meadows & Deep State:
  Former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows discusses the weaponization of DOJ, the Russia probe, and the need for accountability for those who targeted Trump.

  • Quote:

    "The accountability is coming. The feces is hitting the fan..." (Rob Carson, [38:42])

6. Government Program Fraud and Political Repercussions

Timestamps: [39:09]–[41:03]

• Minnesota SNAP Fraud:
  Carson details a case of major government food aid fraud involving SNAP benefits being laundered by a grocery store owner—framed as an indicator of systemic waste and corruption.

  • Quote:

    "The Democrat Party is blaming Donald Trump for the economic hardship of the American people when they spent trillions of dollars paying off fraudsters like this while we suffered." (Rob Carson, [40:33])

• New Task Force:
  Guest commentator Brandon Gill outlines a new effort to crack down on fraud, particularly in Ohio, championed as a Republican initiative to defend taxpayers.

7. Light-Hearted Personal Segment: "White Trash" and Real Estate

Timestamps: [41:05]–[43:16]

• Trailer Park Anecdote:
  Carson ends with a comedic monologue about “white trash” stereotypes, reminiscing about family life in a trailer, and playfully considering buying a mobile home for weekend escapes.

  • Quote:

    "It doesn't get more white trash than that. Your sister's shacking up with your stepbrother in a trailer on your property where the chicken coop used to be. Oh my God!" (Rob Carson, [41:32])

• EV Golf Carts:
  Discussion of the changing American dream—owning a golf cart (as an EV) in a community—contrasted with disdain for full electric vehicles.

8. Show Close and Plugs

Timestamps: [43:16]–[43:48]

• Carson promotes his TV show ("What in the World"), the podcast’s national ranking, and thanks his listeners. He signs off with his catchphrase:
  • Quote:

    "God bless you. America's founded Donald Trump. He's doing a great job as president. Hell with the Democrats. Way to go, military. Tomorrow's Thursday. God bless you and don't catch the stoop..." (Rob Carson, [43:34])

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Notable Quotes

• On SPLC:

  "They were funding Nazis and KKK. They’ll be closing down any day." (Jim Gossett, [19:27])

• On ‘White Privilege’:

  "No, it's not [a persistent infection]. Clearly, you've never lived in a trailer park and had to mine coal. Or have your ass in a tractor seat all day." (Rob Carson, [10:29])

• On Political Rhetoric:

  "Democrats have convinced their entire party that if they're not in control, it's somehow Jim Crow 2.0." (Carl Higbee, [16:14])

• On Trump & Deep State:

  "They tried to keep him off the ballot. They impeached him twice. Never, ever, ever forget that." (Rob Carson, [37:07])

• On Growing Up Poor:

  "We were so poor, we got government cheese... But we were somehow privileged somehow. And I just thought that was always absurd." (Rob Carson, [13:51])

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Segment Timestamps — Quick Reference

• [00:45] Race/racism narrative, Obama, SPLC
• [06:56] Historical analogy & SPLC allegations
• [09:48] White privilege media montage
• [13:51] Government cheese, poverty, personal story
• [16:14] Carl Higbee on race in politics
• [19:21] Jim Gossett sings SPLC parody
• [23:57] Gold investment segment with Philip Patrick
• [33:22] Deep state, Trump administration sabotage
• [39:09] SNAP/government fraud, task force
• [41:05] White trash, trailer park anecdote
• [43:16] Show close, TV/podcast plugs

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Tone & Language

• Blunt, irreverent, and comedic (e.g., “Does it get more white trash than that?”)
• Aggressively partisan, skeptical of left-liberal arguments about race/racism
• Satirical, incorporates parody music and playful insults toward political opponents

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Summary

This episode of The Rob Carson Show centers on the critique of race-based narratives in American media and politics, asserting that claims of systemic racism have been cynically deployed for political and fundraising purposes (notably by the SPLC and Democratic Party). Carson draws on personal hardship to question the concept of "white privilege," parodies "deep state" subversion, and details contemporary fraud scandals, all with comedic defiance and a right-populist edge. The show ends with a humorous nod to his working-class roots, discussions on gold investments amidst inflation, and light banter on mobile home living.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World wide Web. This is the Rob Carson show. This is the Rob Carson Show. We got a ton of stuff to get to this hour, including some insurgents in the Trump administration. They still exist, deep staters, not only in the CIA and the FBI and all that, but also in the White House. So we'll get to that very shortly. And then also the the rise of racism in the country. And I remember and I talked to you about this and I just wrote a piece on Substack about a week ago called 12 years a PSYOP about the Southern Poverty Law center starting in 2012, dividing us with regard to race and really, really putting the pedal in the metal on dividing us in race. And this all started with Barack Obama. Barack Obama, a spoiled, entitled adult child who was raised by white grandparents, half white, half black, spoiled, entitled, privileged child who grew up in a private school in Hawai, his white grandparents raising him. He felt some sort of allegiance to a father who was irresponsible, a hole. But he knew he could use race to move forward with a lack of credentials and experience. And that's why he became what he and then he decided to go forth and use racism to divide all of us. And I had mentioned that, you know, I was in Generation X and we

[Co-host/Guest]

kind of left racism behind us.

[Rob Carson]

And, you know, we all grew up

[Co-host/Guest]

watching all in the Family in Different Strokes and the Jeffersons in good times. We didn't think twice about it. We listened to black music.

[Rob Carson]

We listened to white music.

[Co-host/Guest]

We didn't care. You know, Uhura made out with Kirk before we were born. We didn't really care. We interracially dated. We adopted black kids as white people and white people as black kids, whatever the hell and all of this. And it was all just a ridiculous, ridiculous psyop. And now it became so profound and so great that now you cannot question that America is a racist country. You cannot say, oh, no, no, it's not a racist country. And the reason they did this is because they wanted to be able to divide us along racism lines, keep us divided, and of course make one part of the political equation. Conservatives look like we're somehow racist. Bakari Sellers the other day they lost the racial gerrymandering ability of the Democrat Party. The racially gerrymandered districts that they have kept in poverty, kept with poor schools, kept dependent, broken families, Planned Parenthood. In every black neighborhood, generally on the street named after a civil rights leader, the dream of Margaret Sanger come true. And the Democrat Party could always just blame it on whitey, could always blame it on the GOP and everything. But this move to stop racial gerrymandering in America's inner cities is a Berlin Mall movement for the America's inner cities, particularly families and people of color. When you look at like the black on black violence rate, the murder rate of black on black men is 10 times the national average. You look at like Baltimore. Baltimore has just become an absolute hell hole. Whereas a good share of the country has declined with the number of carjackings. Washington, D.C. is just amazing right now because Jeanine Pirro, Donald Trump brought in the National Guard.

[Rob Carson]

It's remarkable.

[Co-host/Guest]

Baltimore continues a death spiral into hell. I just saw a report on carjackings going through the ceiling. And it's a real shame because it doesn't have to be this way. But you've got to keep a permanent underclass doing dependent on you, filled with grievance, voting slavishly, and I use that word intentionally slavishly, the Democrat Party. And if you look at the gerrymandering and the states that will be affected by it, they're all former Confederate states still run by Democrats, still run by Democrats in these gerrymandered districts and voting for Democrats, not necessarily for skin color. With Steve Cohen in Memphis, for instance, been in there for 20 years, done nothing for the black community. Now this ushers then a possibility of a black conservative woman taking his seat. And the Democrats are still crying racism. When you cry racism for so many years, and I've heard this for so many years, racism, racism, racism. Literally 30 years ago in my career, I was in a little town called Columbia, Missouri, and I said, I said, if you keep crying racism when there isn't racism, if you keep saying that conservatives on campus are racist, sooner or later it's going to become just noise. And Bakari Sellers the other day, after this racial gerrymandering ending really took the cake. I played this because he erased all of the amazing history of black people in our country. And you look at the people in our country, what they overcame, whether it be Hank Aaron, whether it be Jesse Owens going to Berlin and showing that the white race was not supreme, showing the entire world as a representative of the United States. I mean, what an amazing man he was. What about Martin Luther King Jr. Being beaten and jailed heading into Democrat run South Jim Crow south and, and helping to end Jim Crow, which is a Democrat policy down there. This Jack Weed, Bakari Sellers decided to erase everything, everything from Thurgood Marshall, everything

[Rob Carson]

to Oprah Winfrey to Michael Jordan, all of the greatness, by the way, the greatness of people of color that come, I mean, almost exclusively from the United States of America. If you look the greatest names in history, people of color who did the most historic things, the most noteworthy historic things in history, most of them come from the United States of America. I'm not afraid to say that. I'm not afraid to say that, not one little bit, because we should be proud. But this Jack Weed, Muhammad Ali, flush him down the toilet. All of the things that black people have done in this country. He flushed him down the toilet because he didn't get his way with racial gerrymanning for the Democrat Party.

[Guest Commentator]

If somebody fell asleep in 1896 and woke up today in 2026, they would simply say the only difference is now Negroes have a TV show and we wear nice suits.

[Rob Carson]

This is like I said, I mean, it's so absurd, it's obscene. It's obscene. He's using, you know, rhetorical flourishes to make a point that's pointless. Using cliched words, using imagery that is inflammatory and it's all false.

[Guest Commentator]

They, they swapped out Klan hoods for Brooks Brothers suits. And that is the.

[Rob Carson]

That is just. I mean, that's like bad poetry. That's just like bad poetry you've got now. The, the Alabama AG is investigating the Southern Poverty Law center for deceptive practices amid KKK funding scandal. We know that that, that racism had become. Was headed into the rear view mirror of American history and they had to bring it back. They have been indicted on wire fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy charges for sending money to field sources. Members of every white supremacist group. The to dismantle the SPLC did not deny funding members of the KKK Aryan Nations. What not did it to create things like the Charlottesville unite the right Rally did it to massively increase the amount of funding. And of course, the media gobbled it up. That were racist. They gobbled it up, but they've always done a face plan on it. Mike Brown in Ferguson, that was a lie. George Floyd, that was a lie. But it was gobbled up. Created a psyops, Created a whole cloth. Jussie Smollett, there you go. Bubba Wallace, all of this nonsense, all of it was just nonsense. And before I set this up, Carl Higbee did a brilliant monologue last night on this and when racism really began. And of course, it was Barack Obama, but I saved this. This is Greg Kelly of Newsmax, and I'm not meaning to make this into a commercial for Newsmax, but I'm going to tell you that some of the best, most noteworthy and brilliant monologues I've heard recently come. Max host Greg Kelly did this probably a year ago. This is a timeline of white supremacy, the rise of supposed white supremacy in the United States. And this is before the SPLC indictment. I want you to listen to this.

[Guest Commentator]

I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry. Number two, that the Cambridge police

[Rob Carson]

acted

[Guest Commentator]

stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.

[Rob Carson]

Remember that? Remember that? The really amazing thing that I've learned

[Guest Commentator]

is black people know the truth. They know exactly what's going on. It's white people that don't know.

[Philip Patrick]

We don't realize sometimes, especially as a white person, how impactful, how offensive they

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are as a white person. As white people, we need to listen. When it comes to race, white people

[Philip Patrick]

need to listen more.

[Rob Carson]

I think I'm just embarrassed as a white person. As a white person, I would say, of course, I probably do play a

[Philip Patrick]

part in that racism.

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A lot of white people don't understand the depth of this.

[Rob Carson]

When we start talking about issues around race and racism, sometimes white people need to just listen. I'm sorry, I want to give them

[Carl Higbee]

all the I don't mind read between the lines thing.

[Guest Commentator]

And we've been hearing a lot about

[Rob Carson]

it now as white privilege.

[Mark Meadows]

Is that real?

[Rob Carson]

Of course it's real. And I'm white and I have it. I can walk in the street in New York City and put my hand out and no taxi will pass me by.

[Philip Patrick]

This is a.

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This is a persistent infection in white American culture.

[Rob Carson]

No, it's not.

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And it can be quite fatal.

[Rob Carson]

Clearly, you've never lived in a trailer park and had to coal mine a mine coal. Or have your ass in a tractor seat all day.

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And what I've learned over the course of my 44 years is that this infection in modern American white culture doesn't get better over time. What does your whiteness mean to you?

[News Reporter]

What does it mean to be white in our country?

[Philip Patrick]

There's probably a little guilt there.

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There's been things that white people or

[Rob Carson]

our race has done that maybe we're not proud of and then they took it to the nth degree. If that's a degree.

[Philip Patrick]

Greg, According to the intelligence community, terrorism

[Co-host/Guest]

from white supremacy is the most lethal threat to the homeland today.

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One of the greatest threats to our national security is domestic terrorism manifested by white supremacists.

[Guest Commentator]

White supremacy is a global terror threat.

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White supremacist terrorism. For years, warnings have gone out calling it the gravest threat against the U.S.

[Mark Meadows]

the most prominent threat is the threat of white supremacists.

[Rob Carson]

Greg Kelly did that over a year ago. A year ago, before the Southern Poverty Law center was exposed for paying racist organizations, kkk, to create Charlottesville to divide us. Carl Higbee's got a brilliant monologue on when this all started. Coming up on the other side of the break. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey, guys, it's Carson. You know my signature phrase, don't catch the stupid. When it comes to Medicare, that's easier said than done. Medicare is overly complex with thousands of plans hidden, gotchas in the fine print and rules nobody really explains to you. Many people just pick something and hope for the best. That's why you need to know about Chapter. They're the only advisor that looks at every plan in the country, matches your doctors, your prescriptions and your situation to a plan that fits your needs. When you're called with chapter is done, you know, your doctors are covered, your prescriptions are matched, and you go from I hope I did this right to I know I did. That, my friends, is peace of mind. A call with chapter is free for my audience and there's no pressure to sign up. Call Chapter today. Here's the number. 27 Medicare. That's 27 Medicare. 27 Medicare for Chapter. No pressure. What's your excuse? Call 27 Medicare and don't catch the stupid yourself. Call 27 Medicare today. Donald Trump's election.

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[Co-host/Guest]

I love it.

[Rob Carson]

I love it. I love the, the shrillness of it and all that. You know, I was mentioning how this, this entire white supremacy and all this, it took me by surprise literally 12 years ago when I was living here in Montgomery County, Maryland with my son. And my son, I used to call all of his friends the United nations because they were all different colors and sizes and races and all this. And he went to a school that was 10% white. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, I was told that my son was white. Privileged. And then after a very hard childhood where we got government cheese, it was kind of cool. You ever get government cheese as a kid? That was kind of. We were so poor, we got government chees cheese. One day we heard that they were giving out government cheese in Neola, my hometown. They had some surplus of cheese. So we got these sleeves of American cheese unwrapped, and we had a couple of them in our, in our freezer. Tell you what, we were having grilled cheese without the bread. It was so awesome. It was absolutely amazing. But we were somehow privileged and we, we raised all of our own produce and dressed our own chickens. My, my childhood was like raised, being raised in the Depression. I'm not kidding. It was like being raised in the Depression. I got a picture of me the other day. I was 14 years old and my skin was brown from the sun of working out in the fields all day long, pitching bales or grinding corn or doing whatever, you know, getting one pair of shoes a year, shopping at the half price store. All of that stuff. All of that stuff. But I was privileged somehow. And I just thought that was always absurd. And consequently, you've got a group of individuals who now are acting like despite the enormous privilege of being born, you know, say for instance in 1990 versus in 1890, can say stupid things like this. This is State Senator London Lamar in Tennessee. When a black district was gerrymandered was not the gerrymandering was taken away. So a white man can't be voted in and a black woman can actually be elected. And what she's saying, of course, is absolutely obscene. This is a deliberate plan to take away the black vote. Black people aren't Democrat and Republican. We vote our issues. And so far it's absurd to such a thing that Republicans would want to take away the black vote. It's just stupid. It's also like keeping women from voting because women can't get an id. It's just. Honestly, this was, I tell you that conservative comedies on the ascent because the left can't be taken seriously anymore. And you can't take that stuff seriously. And if you're dumb enough to fall for that, you're just an idiot. This is Carl Higbee last night about when all this racism and division. And he's a millennial. So even, you know, a less farther separated from Jim Crow and whatnot than my generation, which was Generation X. But here is Carl Higby.

[Carl Higbee]

Democrats have convinced their entire party that if they're not in control, it's Somehow Jim Crow 2.0. Even though those laws were in fact perpetuated by Democrats, by the way. But here's a clue why libs believe these things. Check this out. This is a chart from the four major publications that most libs read over their chai latte at their anti capitalist coffee shop. The New York Times, The Washington Post, LA Times, and the Wall Street Journal. Which is the least trashy of these. The frequency of the use of the word racism and racist. Yes, declining, as you can see there, since the 90s. Then, right, when Obama declares his candidacy in early 2007.

[Co-host/Guest]

Little pop. Yeah.

[Carl Higbee]

With liberal media accusing just about anyone who opposed Obama of being racist.

[Rob Carson]

Of course.

[Carl Higbee]

And it worked.

[Rob Carson]

If you didn't vote for Obama, you are racist.

[Carl Higbee]

It helped get Obama elected because there were enough.

[Rob Carson]

I said I was all for a black man band being president.

[Co-host/Guest]

I just thought that one hating people

[Carl Higbee]

that voted for the one term, basically unknown senator from Chicago simply because he was half black and they didn't want to be called racist.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And they tried that same thing with Hillary Clinton because she was a woman. Really? And a lesbian, I think, also. Was that part of it? Was it? No, it wasn't the lesbian thing. Okay. Oh, she wasn't a lesbian. Okay, sure, whatever. Anyway, here's Carl Higbee a little bit more.

[Carl Higbee]

Then you Fast forward to 2014. Trump comes on the stage and starts talking about maybe running for president. It'll be a year at this point before he actually declares for president. And to combat the likely previous Democrat, now Republican, also the recipient of the Ellis Island Award alongside Rosa Parks and Jesse Jackson, by the way. To combat that guy, those same lib

[Rob Carson]

publications, they just decided to call Donald Trump an absolute racist and a Nazi. He all of a sudden became a racist and a Nazi and a white supremacist.

[Carl Higbee]

Ramped up their perception of racism. And what was the result of that? Race relations in America cratered. Nothing else changed except the media and Democrats screaming racism.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, but it's all coming, crumbling down. And the denouement, that's the climax. And then to decline. It's not what you think, Hunter. It's the denouement of the racism movement in America. The race baiting movement in America happened when the SPLC was indicted.

[Carl Higbee]

We had just elected a black president with not one, but two black attorney generals, with a black DHS secretary, a black national security adviser on the heels of George Bush's black Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, with ample programs from scholarships to grants to admissions and standards that favored black people. And yet race relations plummeted because the media and Democrats hyped this hysteria from a problem that didn't exist. And they did it to buy votes. Yes, they created this problem, just like the Southern Poverty Law center had to fund and create racism riots in the streets in order to have enough justification for them to continue to exist. And then Democrats. Oh, now black people can't get elected.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that's Carl Higbee. That's the kind of stuff you get on my network, which is called Newsmax. By the way, here's Jim Gossett.

[Jim Gossett]

Indicted, the splc. I'm excited.

[Rob Carson]

So am I.

[Jim Gossett]

They will be history. Their leaders in prison will be from their e home. We will be free. Demise of the splc. A bunch of lies from the splc. They were funding Nazis and kkk. They'll be closing down any day.

[Rob Carson]

Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.

[Jim Gossett]

This marks the end of the splc. We're not a friend of the splc. They are cleaning house. They are cutting staff. When I heard the I had a good laugh. Sblc. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

They're gonna be sued into oblivion. They went from like $100 million in the bank to like $700 million. Like in 2020 when George Floyd rolled around. They made up George Floyd and then all this other Nazi was all it was at 12 years a PSYOP. 12 years a PSYOP. Yeah. SBLC gave to technology companies, banks, credit cards, processors, financial infrastructure companies, and more regarding a hate map. Republican organizations, including Moms for Liberty. Racist. There could be nothing more absurd than calling Moms for Liberty somehow affiliated with the kkk. While they were paying the kkk. While they were paying the kkk. It really is remarkable. And the SCOTUS decision regarding racial gerrymandering was a Berlin moment, a Berlin Wall moment for America's inner cities. These gerrymandered districts that have been dominated by Democrat rule, poverty, dependence, crime, broken families. I can go on and on, and I think that the. The sun is shining in on those

[Co-host/Guest]

areas and Democrats are being exposed for all of this.

[Rob Carson]

More unbelievable fraud coming from Minnesota. And Brandon Gill's ahead of a new task force to go after fraud, particularly in Ohio. So we'll get to that coming up. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey guys, it's Carson for Ghostbed. I am sleeping better than I've ever slept in my entire life. I used to think a mattress was just furniture, but I got a Ghostbed. Ghostbed doesn't build mattresses like furniture. They build engineered sleep systems. Their beds are serious health equipment. Beds designed for relief and recovery, not looks. Your body should be healing while you sleep, not fighting for comfort. I noticed immediately my first night on a ghost bed, I slept for 10 hours. If you're waking up stiff, tossing and turning, sleeping hot, even reaching for a pain reliever before bed, hoping tonight will be different. That's not aging. That's your mattress talking. Here's another thing I love about Ghostbed. You get 101 nights to try it at home. If you don't like the difference, you send it back risk free. Ghostbed is currently having their Memorial Day sale plus an extra 10% off for my audience. Go to ghostbed.comcarson and use promo code carson ghostbed.comcarson promo code carson for the sleep of a lifetime. Hey guys, it's Rob Carson for Relief Factor. There's a reason why at my age I could still crush it at the gym, carry an armchair by myself or do any home improvement project without pain during or after. And that's Relief Factor. When it comes to supplements, the two things that matter most, it works and you trust it. Relief Factor was created by a combat wounded Vietnam veteran. He decided to become a doctor simply to help people to heal them. If pain is holding you back, find out why so many people, including me, make Relief Factor a part of their daily routine. Try the three week quick start today. Go to relieffactor.com that's relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief. That's 800 for relief for relief factor. It is a Wednesday edition of the Rob Carson Show. I talk to you a lot about precious metals. Talk to you a lot about gold because I have my gold investment with a company called Birch Gold. And Guy who is not only a precious metals specialist, also works with Birch Gold. Philip Patrick joins us on the Newsmax highlight. How you doing today, Phil?

[Philip Patrick]

PHILIP Doing very well, Rob. How are you?

[Co-host/Guest]

I'm good.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I've been curious because I've been following gold for a few years now and I have money invested in it. It was a big step for me. By the way, I took my IRA from my my selling cars by the way I was pretty damn good at it and, and invested it with Birch gold. There was a meteoric rise on Gold from two years ago, 2,600 to 5,600 earlier this year. It's, it's settling in about 4,600. It's still good. It's kind of giving us a little bit of pause, it dropping, but it's giving us pause. What do you suppose, what's the dynamic that is happening internationally with regard to, with the regard to gold?

[Philip Patrick]

Yeah, great question. And what we saw at the start of the year wasn't hugely unexpected and what I mean by that, we saw Silver run over 100% the prior year. In 25, Gold was up about 70%. Started this year very aggressively as well. Gold and silver both up quite heavily for the year as well. But we saw a dip in prices on the back of just huge upside really started to manifest as the Iran war started to take shape. So what we're seeing is something very typical, right? When major events like this happen, the initial instinct for a lot of investors, and particularly investors who have been through a meteoric rise in an asset, they move to cash shorter term and they assess what's happening. But yes, one thing's clear, year longer term fundamentals are strong. The first quarter of 2026 we saw a record high for gold buying by central banks. And just in general, so demand is increasing and I think, you know, that dip in pricing, people have to remember we saw the same thing before the 8 crash or after the crash, before gold and silver went on a meteoric rise, we saw the same thing in 2020 and oh, so it's fairly common.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I knew this was going to happen when it reached $5,600. I knew people were going to sell. If you've been sitting on gold, if you bought at 26 and it reached 56 in January, you know that a lot of people wanted to do some profit taking which gave us a breather for those of us who've watched it. And maybe we got in a little bit late. It gave us a breather, gave us, you know, a thousand. Now it's $1,000 less than it's high and gave us the opportunity to buy in when other people got out.

[Philip Patrick]

It's exactly right. And one thing was clear from the drop was it was coming from the paper markets. Right. You have to remember a lot of these people buy paper versions of precious met metals. As prices increase massively, they're forced to make margin calls and essentially front cash to hold positions And a lot of times it leads to sell offs. But I agree with you, all this has done is sort of reset the floor and created a new buying opportunity for investors. The fundamentals are stronger today than they were.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, we've got the Iran ceasefire on life support and it really looks like we're gearing up to kind of finish this. What do you suppose that means?

[Philip Patrick]

Yeah, look, I think they have to write the home is the central risk because it carries a fifth of the world's oil and liquid natural gas. Trump is right now to push for a stronger deal. Brent crude prices are still elevated about $107 a barrel and leaving sort of Iran with leverage over the strait is not viable for anybody. However, the economic reality is every additional week of disruption it's just tightens the vice on American families. Oil shocks as we know, they don't stay in the oil market. They migrate into everything that's grown, moved or shift. So the quicker we put an end to this, I think that the more relief American families will be feeling.

[Rob Carson]

I see that Kevin Wash has been approved as the taking over the chair of the Fed reserve. I think it's way overdue. I'm glad to see the outgoing Fed chair. Outgoing. What do you suppose that's going to mean for, for the economy? I know and I, I'm hoping to see a red and in. In the prime so we can bring down mortgage interest rates. What are your thoughts on him?

[Philip Patrick]

Listen, I think he's a great selection.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Philip Patrick]

To run the Fed. He's got very, very good ideas. I think he's coming in at a very tough time. Had we not had the Iran war, we saw what happened to CPI yesterday, it shot up now to 3.8%. It's going to be very difficult for him to come in and sort of rationalize lowering interest rates. So personally I don't think we're going to see any interest rate cut year maybe next year. But they're going to have to get a handle on this inflation. I think if Wash cuts too soon, it'll go up. Borrowing rates on the long term will go up anyway, so.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I understand that. I understand that we're selling a house in Kansas City right now. I know we could do, we could do better but, but we got to get out of the house. The economy said the economy is looking good. The headlines are saying the economy is good. Manufacturing coming back. A lot of people are feeling still broke though. What do you suppose that's all about?

[Philip Patrick]

It's really confusing. Right. Because you look at Job creation. You look at GDP and the numbers look really good. Yet you speak to people and working class families are running out of money. They're dipping into savings, they're racking up credit card bills. What we're seeing now is basically a K shaped economy. Right. Growth at the top keeps the averages looking respectable while the bottom half is struggling and using finance, pay later for groceries. So yes, White House recognizes it. Right. They're open, they're waking up to this idea. They're talking now about a new oil refinery. They're talking about suspending federal fuel taxes to lower prices, spending tariffs on imported beef. So they're doing what they can to ease the pain for American families. But the reality is the pain is there.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. What is the case for gold in an environment like this?

[Philip Patrick]

Yes, look, I think it's arguably the same as it is the rest of the time. Gold is not about growth, it's about wealth preservation. It's about stability regardless of what happens in the broader economy. And you know, the more we see issues like this appear, whether it's wars in Iran or, you know, in Ukraine, all of these things, geopolitical instability, inflation rising, the world continuing to run from the US$. These things don't bode very well for traditional assets, but they do bode well for gold. So I think everybody should, should think about having some measure of a hedge in place. Major banks now raising predictions again. JP Morgan came out recently, therefore forecasting $6,300 gold price by the end of this year.

[Rob Carson]

That would be amazing. Listen, I'm bullish about, I'm bullish about the economy. I don't have a degree in economics. I just use common sense. And what the President is doing with regard to the economy is obviously what needed to be done. The speed bump is we had to get rid of the terror proxy of Iran that has waged a 47 year war on the entire world and was on the cusp of a nuclear weapon with a missile that could reach London. There is no doubt about it. And I know this is going to be coming to a very abrupt halt very soon. Freedom is going to sweep a millennial freedom and peace is going to sweep across the Middle east and a new era of economic boom is going to hit America. I appreciate you being on the show, Philip. I hope you're doing well, man.

[Philip Patrick]

Thank you. You too. I appreciate coming on. Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

Very good, Philip. Patrick, precious metal specialist, works with Birch Gold, by the way. And by the way, Birch Gold is doing this thing right now where you can get up to $10,000 rebate with qualifying purchases. If you're a first time gold buyer. I'm throw that in there. I'd like to have Philip on to talk about other things, but I want to mention also he works with Birch Gold as well.

[Co-host/Guest]

So text my name.

[Rob Carson]

Rob to 989-898. Rob to 989-8988 for Burch Gold. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. In New York City. Zoran Mandami is doing an estate tax of up to 50%. That's what he's pushing for for families leaving behind a life's earnings. That's devastating. What are you leaving for your family? Do you have life insurance? I do because I want my kids to be able to live a great life, pay off debt, maybe have it a little easier than I did. You can protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes by going to ethos.com Carson Application times may vary, rates may vary, but protection is there for you. If you get life insurance through Ethos, it'll give you peace of mind in case something happens. Ethos helps provide financial security for your family. Ethos helps protect them in this frequently unpredictable world. There's no medical exam. Just answer a few health questions online. Get a rate in as little as 10 minutes. Get the ball rolling today by going to ethos.comcarson that's ethos.comcarson. Edison, Rob Carson Joe Appeals Court blocks $83 million to Eugene Carroll amid a Trump appeal because, you know, she's a, she said she's nuts. She's certifiable. You can't say that. Yeah, I can't. In 2019, she accused Trump of raping her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in a dress that did not exist in that year. And then, and then also there were no, there were no witnesses. She didn't know the date of the year. And the only thing she had was a sycophantic jury that wanted to go after Donald Trump and a judge that went along with it. It was really absurd. The whole damn thing was absurd. Really, really, really absurd. Kind of an insult to real incidences of these things. Like allegedly, Eric Swallows. Well, two high level White House insiders caught on undercover video bragging about internal subversion against Donald Trump. You know, this is really stupid. These guys are both done. Maxim Lott, special assistant to President Trump on the White House domestic policy, admitted to the undercover journalist, this is James o', Keefe, that domestic policy decisions are often made based on what feels like a good idea, not on the president's, you know, input. Benjamin Elliston, budget analyst, manager within in the executive office, said that we have to get Trump. He's effing it up for everybody. We've got to get rid of him. Not a good idea. Here's a little audio. We'll try it again.

[James O'Keefe]

To get rid of Trump.

[Rob Carson]

Seriously, he's a mess. He's bleeding up for everybody.

[Co-host/Guest]

Not.

[Rob Carson]

Not a good idea. He is now on, on leave. Probably done. Probably done, he said. Trump is a madman, by the way. Insisted coworkers can't know how he truly feels about the current sitting president of the. Well, you're done. You are unreliable. If you worked in a company and you talk this way about the CEO, you'd be fired as well. And he should. Here's a little bit more from Newsmax this morning with regard to this guy who's now unemployed.

[James O'Keefe]

Well, you know, it's interesting. I mean, this man chose to work for the president. I mean, he's there, he has a job in the administration serving the American people, serving President Trump, yet he's bashing him publicly. I realized D.C. maybe he's had a few too many drinks, but actually this exposes a lot of truth of what he actually stands for. So I think we saw more of this in Trump 1.0 where there were more people who were opposed to the president's agenda going against him from the D State. I think we've seen less of that this time. But there's still individuals.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And then also let's not forget John Brennan, who says there are still deep seders working against the president.

[Carl Higbee]

I think, as Liz mentioned, there's still a legion of professionals in the law enforcement, environment, Department of Justice, well, as

[Rob Carson]

the CIA and other places. The ones who are refusing to follow

[Carl Higbee]

politically motivated prosecutions, I mean, if they

[Rob Carson]

come from a Republican, completely fine. When it came from Joe Biden and whoever was pulling his trains, Barack Obama, honestly, ridiculous. Last night, Mark Meadows was talking to Rob Schmidt about Comey and Brennan, who hopefully are going to be going to prison for their political persecutions of Donald Trump, his followers.

[Mark Meadows]

Well, I think it's DOJ holding the weaponizers to rob and, and it's almost very difficult to listen to some of those comments when, you know, the fact that they actually ran to Ms. Now, which was in MSNBC at the time, to perpetuate the same Russia hoax.

[Rob Carson]

Ms. Now got worse.

[Mark Meadows]

Who carried it over and over again and to suggest that there was nothing there. And now it's weaponization. Listen, one thing I know is Attorney Todd Blanche is general, is, is a very good attorney. He will follow the facts. But the other thing that we know is, is for years they said, oh, this was the whole Russia collusion narrative, consumed the first Trump administration, Rob. And yet now they're acting like, oh, they were innocent bystanders.

[Rob Carson]

And it was the worst political persecution. It was very much like the former Soviet Union. People need to go to jail. And for anybody feeling any sort of sympathy or empathy toward Jim Comey, here he is a couple of years ago talking about Donald Trump. Everybody wanted to put our president in jail for life. Everybody in the world in the deep state wanted Donald Trump politically persecuted. They raided Mar A Lago without good reason. They planted evidence. They tried to keep him off the ballot. They impeached him twice. Never, ever, ever forget that.

[Unknown Caller]

It probably makes sense to impeach him. And I'm glad that happened. Convict him, bar him from future service. Have the prosecutors, the local prosecutors in New York pursue him for the fraudster that he was before he ever became president. Lock him up for the garden variety florids he did there. But don't give him that center stage, that dominant role in our national life. Let him stand on the lawn at Marlin.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, I hope he goes to jail for a very long time. When he does, when he's frog merged

[Co-host/Guest]

to prison, I'm going to say celebrate.

[Rob Carson]

I'm going to celebrate a little more from Mark Meadows, because these Jack weeds didn't think Donald Trump would ever be elected because they were working so hard to keep him off the ballot, to put him in jail, to take his fortune, and ultimately to try to kill him now three times.

[Mark Meadows]

Well, it did. And they never thought that Donald Trump would be back in the White House and we wouldn't have accountability or any transparency as it relates to these things. Donald Trump not been elected.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Now we got two and a half years, years to gut these agencies and find these fiends and expose them and indict them and imprison them.

[Mark Meadows]

But the American people are smarter than that. Here's the fact that they continue to continue this narrative of weaponization that supposedly is different than the last four years.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, we're done. The accountability is coming. The feces is hitting the fan in Minnesota. More fraud. This is remarkable, actually, but not surprising. SNAP fraud. Here's how they do it in Minnesota.

[News Reporter]

Charges announced tonight after more than a million dollars in SNAP benefits were stolen in Minnesota. And according to those charges, 60 year old Abdi Waheed Muhammad what last days, Muhammad no way. Used other people's EBT cards to buy products from Walmart, Sam's Club and Costco. And they then sold those items at his own grocery store called Minnesota Food Grocery.

[Rob Carson]

From Minnesota Food Grocery. That's brilliant.

[News Reporter]

March to call it Muhammad's best of 2021. He purchased Food Market $1.1 million. This is in products through various EBT cards. And an investigation found he promised payment and even free groceries from his store for people who gave him those cars.

[Rob Carson]

That is fantastic. Brandon Gill, who looks a lot like Christopher Reed back in the day, he has been put in charge of going after fraudsters like this starting in Ohio.

[Guest Commentator]

That's exactly right. And the American people are sick of seeing their tax dollars wasted and seeing government organizations or nonprofit institutions, colleges, businesses abuse the American people. And that's what we're going after with this task task force. What we found with this Ohio fraud scandal is that we've got what we believe to be billions of dollars that have been defrauded from American taxpayers that should have been going to benefit the American people. And instead we're being laundered through a wide variety.

[Rob Carson]

And the Democrat Party is blaming Donald Trump for the economic hardship of the American people when they spent trillions of

[Co-host/Guest]

dollars paying off fraudsters like this while

[Rob Carson]

we suffered and we had to get.

[Co-host/Guest]

When we had to earn our groceries and we had to work two jobs to pay for the inflation that Joe Biden started. These jack weeds stole our money and we paid them. They put it in suitcases and sent it to Somalia, for God's sake. So I don't want to hear any blame storming on Donald Trump and inflation because we are taking out Iran. Look what you did to us.

[Rob Carson]

Look what you did to us.

[Co-host/Guest]

Shame on you. Let's take a break and come back.

[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show. This is not an evil and it never will be. So, you know, I like to, I like to look at real estate porn and you know, listen, I'm divorced and all of that and I kind of looking at a little escape on the weekends, you know, so I'm looking at a little tiny house or even like, are you ready for this? A mobile home. Mobile home near Rehoboth beach in Delaware. Just, you know, listen, who cares? It's a bill. It's a nicely groomed little mobile home park, whatever. Hell, we had a trailer. I was growing up, my sister, my sister lived in a mobile home on Our property. Having a romantic relationship with my stepbrother. It doesn't get more white trash than that. Okay, Your sister's shacking up with your stepbrother in a trailer on your property where the chicken coop used to be. Oh my God. Does it get more white trash than that? Anyway, thinking about getting a little place and going up to Sussex county, which is marvelous. Little Republican county, you know, just to get away. Just to get away. Because I work. I do a lot of work. I do a lot of work here. I know, I know. I make it look effortless. I know I do, but I do.

[Co-host/Guest]

I put about 10 hours of show

[Rob Carson]

prep and a three hour show every day.

[Co-host/Guest]

And the reason why I bring up this little place is because I would have an ev. I want to get a cool. One of those cool golf carts, you know? Listen, you think that's a retirement community? No, no, no.

[Rob Carson]

There are a lot of communities now. Even millennials and younger Gen Xers are

[Co-host/Guest]

living in neighborhoods where you get around the neighborhood in a golf cart. You're going to go down and have margaritas with whoever down the street on a. You know, take a golf cart down the street. Not driving, I'm saying. But I don't drink margaritas. But yeah, I'm.

[Rob Carson]

Hell yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

I want to get one that looks

[Rob Carson]

like a Hummer or something cool. Or a tank. And then just drive down to the neighbors, you know, hang out, chill out, watch some football, barbecue, you know, have them come up, whatever. Just do a little weekend. I need a neighborhood. I need a neighborhood. I need to be in the hood. And an ev.

[Co-host/Guest]

I would have a golf cart as an ev.

[Rob Carson]

Hell yeah. Why not?

[Co-host/Guest]

Why not? As far as a regular car.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, not interested in that.

[Co-host/Guest]

I like the. I like the roar of a V8

[Rob Carson]

or even a V6 engine and you know, and I think it's a good thing.

[Co-host/Guest]

There you go. That's gonna pretty much do it for the show.

[Rob Carson]

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[Co-host/Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Co-host/Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Co-host/Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

Way to go, military. Tomorrow's Thursday.

[Co-host/Guest]

God bless you and don't catch the stoop, but I'll see you then.