Winning Wednesday: Muffins, Madness & the Supreme Court

Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Winning Wednesday: Muffins, Madness & the Supreme Court
Date: January 14, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Radio)
Notable Contributor: Jim Gossett (parody, commentary)

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Overview

This “Winning Wednesday” episode of The Rob Carson Show delivers Carson’s trademark blend of political satire, sharp-edged commentary, and humor. The central theme is a celebration of “winning” for common sense and conservative values, spanning current events from gas prices and economic policy to, most notably, a deep dive into the recent Supreme Court oral arguments about sex, gender, and women’s sports (West Virginia v. BPJ). The show is punctuated by musical satire, mockery of political opponents, and exasperated reactions to what Carson views as left-wing academic nonsense and ideological overreach.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Winning Wednesday" Mindset & Political Landscape

• Opening Tone: Carson kicks off the show in a buoyant mood, declaring, “I'm going to call it Winning Wednesday. It's Winning Wednesday. You know why? Because we're winning.” (00:50)
• Optimism on World Affairs: Expresses hopes for regime change in places like Iran and Cuba, and prays for removal of corrupt leaders:

  “I prayed that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton would go to jail actually. And we came up with this, Jim…” (01:54)

• Satirical Song: Jim Gossett parodies the Clintons with a musical number about them refusing to testify about Jeffrey Epstein, evoking laughter and a jab at political accountability. (01:54–03:04)

2. Economic News: Muffins as Metaphor, Gas Prices, & Manufacturing Jobs

• Mocking Left's “Armchair Academia” Approach:

  “Democrats always employ academics, and academics never do D word for Richard. They never get anything accomplished. … their idea of an accomplishment is a meeting. … nothing gets accomplished.” (05:16)

• Economic “Wins”:
  • Lower gas prices noted (“$2.89 a gallon in Sturgis, MI”), manufacturing up (Ford/GM), stock markets up, job growth. (04:25–05:16)
  • Trump administration framed as responsible for economic rebound and “doing the stuff that you need to do," using the “Muffin Factory” as a running analogy for American small businesses and deregulation. (06:36–09:02)
• Memorable Muffin Metaphor:

  "If you like muffins, that’s cool. But then you got a muffin factory… and what you need to succeed is… fair tariffs… lower taxes on your muffins… lower the regulations so you can bring your muffin in the market…" (07:49)

• Mock Trademarking: Carson jokes he’ll trademark "muffinmarket.com". (09:02)
• Satirical Analysis:

  “I grew up on a farm. I know how to shovel crap. And we got a lot of crap shoveling to do.” (10:37)

3. Border & Immigration

• Border Policy: Review of Republican and Democrat claims about presidential authority and border security. (04:44–05:09)
• ICE Enforcement in Minnesota:
  • Features a Minnesotan resident who cheers local ICE actions, describing community gratitude (“hootin’ and hollering”), reflecting wider audience sentiment. (22:10–23:02)
• Blunt Assessment:

  “People are sick of this crap, to be quite honest. And, consequently, they love it when these illegals are deported. Sorry.” (23:02)

• Comedic Rural Banter: Carson and guest banter about small town Minnesota, “hot dish”, and local pride. (22:19–22:55)

4. Supreme Court Madness: What Is a Woman?—West Virginia v. BPJ

• Ridiculing Court Arguments:

  “So much stupidity yesterday in front of the Supreme Court. We've got that.” (10:59)

a. Ketanji Brown Jackson’s “I’m Not a Biologist”

• Quote:

  Madison Kenyon: "You provide a definition for the word woman."
  Court Expert: "Can I provide a definition?"
  Madison Kenyon: "Yeah."
  Court Expert: "I can’t."
  Madison Kenyon: "You can’t?"
  Court Expert: "Not in this context. I’m not a biologist." (12:01–12:17)

• Carson reacts incredulously (“She made it on the Supreme Court that. That person there. You're such a racist. No, no, no. She’s just dumb. My God.”) (12:17)

b. Oral Arguments on Sex & Gender

• Stumbling Over Definitions: Lawyer for the ACLU cannot define “man” or “woman” when directly asked by Justice Alito, resulting in a circular, academic discussion that angers Carson.
  • “You are bringing a case to the Supreme Court about defining men and women when you allow them in sports and you do not know the definition of either?” (14:55–15:10)
• Circuitous Reasoning Satirized:

  "This is just a circuitous route to stupid." (15:19)
  "It’s like arguing with a toddler. You’re never going to go anywhere." (19:12)

c. On “Cisgender” and Woke Lexicon

• Carson’s Rant:

  "She is woke… uses a term as a Supreme Court Justice, a word that didn’t exist five years ago… it is cisgendered. It is a complete construct. It’s meaningless. It is relabeling what has always been." (25:55)

• Ketanji Brown Jackson’s Use of “Cisgender”:

  "But then you have a gender identity definition… meaning that for cisgender, they can play consistent with their gender identity. For transgender girls, they can't.” (26:24)

d. Justice Kavanaugh’s Reasonableness

• Quote:

  “Obviously, one of the great success in America for the last 50 years has been the growth of women and girls sports. … For the individual girl who does not make the team … there’s a harm there.” (28:02–28:40)

• Carson contextualizes: This is about “the girls who are the victims, rather than the one person over here who was born with a [penis] and said… whatever.”

5. Women’s Sports: Athlete Testimony

• Madison Kenyon’s Experience:

  "I went to Idaho State University on a tracking cross country scholarship where I raced a male athlete in the women’s division many times. And I lost every time, along with hundreds of other women." (33:28)

• On the Absurdity: Carson lampoons the idea of “no difference” between men and women in sports by referencing WNBA vs. NBA and his own high school wrestling days. (34:45 onward)
• Kenyon on Opportunity Loss:

  "…over 420 girls have been displaced 1100 times and lost 57 medals to the boy at the heart of the case." (38:11)

• Empathy & Fairness:

  "But when men compete against men, it is fair, and when women compete against women, it is fair. … It is so important that we recognize women should only compete against women." (36:26)

6. Cultural Satire & Musical Parody

• Jim Gossett’s Musical Parodies:
  • Clinton/Epstein satire (01:54–03:04)
  • “Transgender woman” satire in the style of “You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman,” lampooning trans athlete controversy (38:54–40:12)
• SNL Analogy: Carson likens the Court’s “woke” justices to “the three sisters bit” on SNL, with Justice Jackson as the “little crazy sister with tiny hands.” (27:27)

7. Broader Cultural Critique and Outlook

• On Academia & DEI: Discusses decline in “woke” university and college programs, with layoffs and cuts; attributes this to the backlash against leftist ideology. (40:12)
• Hope for the Future:

  "…I am optimistic about 2026 beyond just the economy but just for common sense and we can beat this horde of leftists into the pits of hell." (Last minute)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“I’m not a biologist.”

Court Expert: "I can’t [define 'woman']… Not in this context. I’m not a biologist."
(12:14)

“Circuitous Route to Stupid”

Rob Carson: "This is just a circuitous route to stupid. I mean, if you had your car voice… was Forrest Gump or something for the GPS, this is where Forrest would take you."
(15:19)

“I know how to shovel crap.”

Rob Carson: "I grew up on a farm. I know how to shovel crap. And we got a lot of crap shoveling to do."
(10:37)

“Cisgender is a complete construct.”

Rob Carson: "‘Cisgender’… is a complete construct. It’s meaningless. It is relabeling what has always been."
(25:55)

Athlete Perspective

Madison Kenyon: "I saw a teammate pushed off a podium because we’re faster and stronger and stuff… it is not fair for women to compete against men. It ruins the integrity of women’s sports."
(33:51–34:13)

Parody Song—Clinton/Epstein

Jim Gossett: "Me and my wife, we won’t comply. About Jeffrey Epstein. We refuse to testify. Cause we know we get caught in lie after lie."
(02:07–02:20)

Satirical "Transgender Woman" Song

Jim Gossett: "…the left makes me feel / Like a transgender woman / When I compete with females, I’m the one that’s feared / 'Cause I’m the only person in the race with a beard..."
(38:54–40:12)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:50 – “Winning Wednesday” declaration; upbeat opening
• 01:54–03:04 – Jim Gossett’s parody song: Clinton/Epstein
• 06:26–09:02 – “Muffin Market” economic metaphor; critiques of leftist regulation
• 10:59–11:52 – Transition to Supreme Court arguments: “madness” and “stupidity” on gender
• 12:01–12:17 – Ketanji Brown Jackson: “I’m not a biologist.”
• 14:55–15:19 – ACLU lawyer fails to define “boy” and “girl” for the Court
• 19:12 – Carson: Arguing with activists is “like arguing with a toddler”
• 25:55–27:07 – Rob’s critique of “woke,” mockery of “cisgender” terminology
• 28:02–28:40 – Justice Kavanaugh on fairness and women’s sports
• 33:28–34:13 – Madison Kenyon on unfairness of competing with trans women
• 38:54–40:12 – Jim Gossett’s “Transgender Woman” satire
• 40:12–end – Riff on the coming end of “woke” academia and the return of common sense

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Conclusion

This episode encapsulates Rob Carson’s energetic, irreverent, and polemical style. While covering serious topics—Supreme Court gender litigation, economics, immigration—he blends biting satire with cultural and political commentary. Through parody, personal stories, and listener engagement, Carson makes his position clear: he sees signs of a conservative “winning” trend and a coming restoration of common sense. Anyone seeking a summary of right-populist critique of modern progressive politics, with a heavy dose of parody and punchlines, will find this episode a textbook example.

Transcript

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[Court Expert]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Jim Gossett]

Interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show. Hello and welcome to it. It is Wednesday. I'm going to call it Winning Wednesday. It's Winning Wednesday. You know why? Because we're winning. We're winning. There's a lot of good stuff happening around the world. Hopefully very soon the, the Ayatollah will be, I'll just say killed. How about that? How about that? The Ayatollah. How about just killed? I think that would be good. And then the Persian people will walk free. Let's hope that happens very soon. Let's hope the people of Cuba walk free. I did today. Franklin Graham was talking about the praying at noon today. And so I stopped before the show and said a prayer. I'm just gonna be honest about those who are corrupt, who are in power will be removed from power. And those being who have done this corruption be held accountable and the people of Iran be free. And the in the people of Cuba be free and in peace. I asked for peace. I asked for peace. How about that? And I didn't say that the left needs to settle down because they're causing it all, but they are. So there you go. There is that. And then I also prayed that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton would go to jail actually. And we came up with this Jim.

[Jim Gossett]

Gassett to that house hearing. I didn't show. Me and Hillary decided not to go. We just proved that. We've got so much to hide.

[Rob Carson]

Oh my goodness.

[Jim Gossett]

No pleasure has been applied. Me and my wife, we won't comply. About Jeffrey Epstein. We refuse to testify.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Jim Gossett]

Cause we know we get caught in lie after lie. We won't comply. We won't comply. Jim Conrad says I'm in contempt. That from appearing. I am not exempt. He wants me arrested. I say let him try. I won't comply. I won't comply. Island trips I took a lot. When I'm asked about him. I say, I Forgot I flew 30 times on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. But I will never, I will never explain. Know not me. I will resist.

[Rob Carson]

Even though that is Jim gossip. He just, I don't know, man. I tell you what, I, I have never in my life had other people write for my show until Jim Gossett because he's just so dang good at it. Anyway, welcome to the show. Please come inside. I put together this this morning. I put together a little bon charge today because, you know, one of the mantras of this presidenc, but look what can happen when you actually do something. Just look what can happen when you actually do something. And I, and I put this together because the Democrats for the last, well since Barack Obama have been like armadillos on their backs in the middle of the highway saying nothing could be fixed. In Sturgis, Michigan, it is $2.89 a gallon. What is the grand home plan to increase oil production in America?

[Court Expert]

That is hilar. Would that I had the magic wand.

[Madison Kenyon]

On the cheaper gas at the pump lately. You're not imagining it. Nice to see prices are now at their lowest since March of 2021.

[Rob Carson]

Really? Because some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back.

[Legal Analyst]

When somebody says that he's going to.

[Rob Carson]

Bring all these jobs back, well, how exactly are you going to do that? What are you going to do?

[Legal Analyst]

What magic wand do you have?

[Rob Carson]

Ford had its best year since 2019. GM sales are up 6% percent, sells up. Their stock prices are going through the roof. Ford says they have 5,000 manufacturing jobs that pay six figures that they can't fill. There's that much demand. Republicans have been saying, largely wrongly.

[Legal Analyst]

Right. Saying that the president can close the border unilaterally on his own. President actually doesn't have the authority under.

[Rob Carson]

Law to do that.

[Court Expert]

There's only so much President Biden can do with executive action, and he did. But they actually are doing everything they can. There's only so much that he can do. Here were the records set in July.

[Madison Kenyon]

Again, these numbers were released this morning.

[Court Expert]

Lowest monthly nationwide encounters ever, down nearly.

[Madison Kenyon]

90% from the monthly average under the Biden administration.

[Court Expert]

The lowest monthly border patrol apprehensions nationwide ever.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah. So there's just three examples in a myriad of examples. And you know what the problem is? Democrats always employ academics, and academics never do D word for Richard. They never get anything accomplished. They sit around like tenured professors and they mentally masturbate about nonsensical things like, oh, no, could a Boy have a baby? Can a girl have a penis? Can boys be girls and girls be boys? Honestly, you know, this is ridiculous. And they, when they, their idea of an accomplishment is a meeting, you have a meeting. This is, this is the way left always operates, by the way. And there are some people in the, in the broadcast industry who do this too. You have a meeting and the accomplishment is the meeting. You go into the meeting, you have no plan, you have no direction, you have no list of accomplishments, you have no list of goals. You just sit there in your meeting and you're mentally masturbating. I know, I said that twice. And nothing gets accomplished. And there you go. We did it. Woo. And that's what we've done with eight years of Barack Obama and four years of Joe Biden. That's doing nothing at all. And look what happens when you actually do something. It's kind of amazing. And generally when that happens, of course there is lots of good news. And again, there's lots of good news today.

[Jim Gossett]

We love to win, Winning, winning. So much winning. It's lots of winning.

[Rob Carson]

Lots of winning, Lots of winning, Lots of winning, Lots of winning, Lots of winning. It's.

[Legal Analyst]

Oh.

[Rob Carson]

So, yeah, here is CNBC talking about what's going to happen this year and why. By the way, where are the Democrats talking about affordability. Where were they talking about affordability? They were talking about Maduro and Donald Trump arresting Maduro. And that's criminal. And then before that, they were saying that Pete Hacks was a war criminal because of the drug, but it's blowing up the drug boats. And then, then all of a sudden this woman decides that she's going to harass a nice officer trying to run him over. And the ICE officer shot her through the windshield, which is a good sign that the, I don't know, the car is coming right at you and you're in front of the car. So there's that. Where's affordability? Where's affordability? I'm very optimist. More new highs, you know, good gdp, close southern border. Just. Joe, I'm with you on all those positives. I'm not disputing any of those. And the inflation number is one more reason to be optimistic. Yeah, I think 2026 is going to be a very good year for the economy. You know, why are you ready? Because Donald Trump's doing the stuff you need to do to make the economy work. I know, I know, it's weird, right? All the things that you, as a, as a small business operator, maybe you've got a muffin factory or something or, you know, whatever, whatever. If you like muffins, that's cool. But then you got a muffin factory. And what you need to succeed is, I don't know, maybe fair tariffs with other countries that could sell their muffins a lot cheaper. You know those Chinese muffins, You got to watch those Chinese muffins, for God's sake. They might have asbestos in them or something. And then they're super cheap, but you buy them anyway. There you go. And then, of course, all that regulation because you want to try to bring your muffin to the market. That sounds weird, Rachel Maddow. But you bring your muffin to the market and you got to go through all of these, these stupid rules and regulations to get your muffin. I think there's a dating site for people like Rachford Matto called Muffin Mart. But anyway. But there you go. So you're trying to bring your muffin to the market. Maybe it's called muffin market, I don't know. But you try to bring your muffin to the market and. And Donald Trump is saying, here's the deal. I'm going to lower the taxes on your muffins. I don't know if this is the best analogy. I'm going to lower the regulations so you can bring your muffin in the market. And then. And then we're going to bring down the price of gas so you can get your muffin ingredients to your store and then you can take your muffins across the country. Okay. You know what I'm saying? He's doing the stuff that you need to do. He is doing the stuff you need to do. And here's the chief executive talking about that.

[Jim Gossett]

Joe Biden gave us a colossal stagflation catastrophe. But my administration's rapidly and very decisively ended.

[Rob Carson]

By the way, I'm going to trademark that. Muffin market. Muffin market.com that we have quickly achieved.

[Jim Gossett]

The exact opposite of stagflation. Almost no inflation and super high growth.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. What the highest growth you got there. We got a magic one. I think we need to have a meeting.

[Jim Gossett]

And we've only been there 11 months as of this morning. Core inflation for the past three months.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[Jim Gossett]

Has been just 1.6%. The numbers we just announced before I came.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Jim Gossett]

GDP is smashing expectations with the fastest growth for this country in many years.

[Rob Carson]

Boom.

[Jim Gossett]

The fourth quarter is projected at 5.4%. And that's despite the Democrat shutdown, where we lost at least 1 1/2 points.

[Rob Carson]

But the Democrats have a plan. When they get into power, they're going to impeach Donald Trump. That's their plan. They wrecked everything. They destroyed everything. They opened the southern border. They killed the economy. We had 30, 40, 50% inflation. They doubled price of housing. They doubled the price of a used car. They held. I mean, what they did with new cars. I like to say that 55,000 is the new 35,000. That's, that's the difference between when I sold cars. You know, when Donald, when Donald Trump was president versus when Joe Biden was president afterwards, $35,000 was a good car. Now that $35,000 car cost $55,000. Now that $55,000 car costs $85,000. That's what happened when Joe Biden was the president. It was a crap show. And we're cleaning up the crap. That's what we're doing. I grew up on a farm. I know how to shovel crap. And we got a lot of crap shoveling to do. I don't know. I'm in a good mood today. I'm just in a good mood today. There's, there's a lot of good news. And I, and I, and I see this nonsense in Minneapolis. It's, it's fading fast. And I love the fact that the Trump administration is saying, oh, really? Oh, really? You're gonna get in the way of the car. We're just gonna send some more agents up there. We're gonna give you a rectal probe, which Tim Waltz doesn't mind so much normally, but this one is not good. It's. It's gonna be, it's gonna be very good. The president got some stuff on him today. Got to. All this just. I mean, the Supreme Court argument about whether a man is what is a man and what is a woman. Oh, my God. So much stupidity yesterday in front of the Supreme Court. We've got that. We've got Iran. We've got, We've got. What else? Judge Jeanine talking about the Fed chair, Jerome Powell, why she's going after him and how he has been dodging. I mean, I could just go on and on, but I'm not going to. I'm going to take a break. That's what I'm going to do. Here's a number if you want to chime in. 800-922-6680. This is the Rob Carson Shoe, brought to you today by Muffin Mart. Don't go anywhere.

[Jim Gossett]

The Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere. Go to Newsmax.com. listen for details.

[Rob Carson]

You provide a definition for the word woman.

[Court Expert]

Can I provide a definition?

[Madison Kenyon]

Yeah.

[Court Expert]

I can't.

[Madison Kenyon]

You can't?

[Court Expert]

Not in this context. I'm not a biologist.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, she made it on the Supreme Court that. That person there. You're such a racist. No, no, no. She's just dumb. My God. I mean, listen, I know many of you get online degrees. I get it. I understand. But I don't know if getting your law degree online is such a good thing. I don't even know if she did that, for God's sake. I mean, really. And then, of course, it just. The stupid continued yesterday in the Supreme Court. Yesterday in West Virginia versus bpj, which stands for Becky Pepper Jackson. I call it the PPV9 argument. These in West Virginia, they. The Save Women's Sports act bars transgendered girls from female teams, which means dudes who put on dresses that say they're girls. Of course, Justices Sotomayor Kagan and Katanji Brown Dax and the three Karens of the Supreme Court argued in favor of strip stripping young girls and women of the opportunity to privacy in the locker rooms and from being able to achieve the top spots in their sports when competing against biological men. Then came this moment. And this is not a good sign for your defense or your case when your lawyer can't tell you what the definition of either sex is when it's the basis of the case. I want you to remember this name. Her name is. Or his. Or they. Them. Their. Their. Their. Whatever. ACLU lawyer Kathleen Hartnett asked by Sa Lido to define a man, a boy or a. Or a woman or whatever the hell. But listen to this.

[Legal Analyst]

Is it not necessary for there to be. For equal protection purposes if that is challenged under the equal protection.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Legal Analyst]

An understanding of what it means to be a boy or a girl or a man or a woman?

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Court Expert]

Yes, your honor.

[Legal Analyst]

And what is that definition for equal protection purpose? What does. What does it mean to me?

[Rob Carson]

Give me that.

[Legal Analyst]

A boy or a girl?

[Rob Carson]

A man or woman?

[Court Expert]

Yeah, sorry, I misunderstood your question. I think that the underlying enactment, whatever it was.

[Rob Carson]

I. I don't think that was real hard to figure out. But let's. Let's do it again.

[Legal Analyst]

Were a man or a woman.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Court Expert]

Yes, your honor.

[Legal Analyst]

And what is that definition?

[Rob Carson]

What is it for equal protection?

[Legal Analyst]

What does it mean to be a boy or a girl or a man or a woman?

[Court Expert]

Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I think that the underlying enactment, whatever it was, the policy, the law, the.

[Rob Carson]

Would have to.

[Court Expert]

We'd have to have an understanding of how the state where the government was.

[Rob Carson]

Or you could just go back to, I don't know, kindergarten and sit in a class for one day just understanding.

[Court Expert]

That term to figure out whether or not someone was excluded. We do not have a definition for the court and we don't take issue with the.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God. So wait, hold on. You're bringing a case to the Supreme Court about defining men and women when you allow them in sports and you do not know the definition of either?

[Court Expert]

We're not disputing the definition here. What we're saying.

[Rob Carson]

No, I think you are, because you don't know it.

[Court Expert]

That the way it applies in practice is to exclude birth sex males categorically from women's teens.

[Rob Carson]

Okay. This is just a circuitous route to stupid. I mean, if you were. If you were. Had your. Your car voice. Was Forrest Gump or something for the gps, this is where Forrest would take you.

[Court Expert]

That there's a subset of those birth sex males where it doesn't make sense to do so according to the states.

[Rob Carson]

See, it's taking you all over here and you're going over there and you go over there when the answer is right there. PPV9. It's right there.

[Court Expert]

Interest.

[Legal Analyst]

Well, how can you. How can a court determine whether there's discrimination on the basis of sex.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Legal Analyst]

Without knowing what sex means.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Legal Analyst]

Equal protection prose.

[Court Expert]

I think here we just know that. We basically know that the. That they've identified pursuant to their own statute.

[Rob Carson]

What did I tell you about academics? Yep. See, all this crap came around about like the last six years. It's all psyop, all of this. I'm cisgender with cisgender. Shut up. You're not cisgendered. You're a female or you're a male. You're not cisgendered because you can't change your sex. Sorry. There's some things you can't do. You know, it's like I want to be the first person to ever live who never died. Oh, sure. Good luck with that. Go, go ahead. Good luck with that. Let's see how well that works.

[Legal Analyst]

Well, that has a boys, let's say track team and a girls track team.

[Rob Carson]

Girls have the niners and boys have the pee pees.

[Legal Analyst]

The school has that.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Legal Analyst]

And a student.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, your honor.

[Legal Analyst]

Has the genes and the reproductive system system of a male and had those at birth. And it's never taken.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, you're talking about cisgendered people.

[Legal Analyst]

Never.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God.

[Legal Analyst]

Taken female hormones. Never had any gender Altering or affirming surgeries.

[Rob Carson]

You know, he's got to just feel like, you know, I gotta say this to these freaking morons.

[Legal Analyst]

Says, nevertheless, I am a woman. That's who I am.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, can the school getting a headache there. Can we take a break? Can we recess from the stupidity for a sec? Okay, we'll keep going.

[Legal Analyst]

Say, no, you cannot participate on the girls team.

[Court Expert]

Sorry. So you're just a birth sex male who has all the advantages of birth sex male.

[Rob Carson]

Birth sex male is a male hormones.

[Court Expert]

And can the school bar him from the woman?

[Legal Analyst]

Yes, but that person is that person not a woman in your understanding. The person says, I sincerely believe I a woman. I am in fact woman. Is that person not a woman.

[Court Expert]

I would respect their self identity in addressing the person. But in terms of the statute, I think the question is, does that person have a sex based biological advantage?

[Rob Carson]

See, insane people should not be allowed to argue. She should have a, she should have that. That attorney should have a court appointed attorney.

[Court Expert]

That's going to make it unfair.

[Rob Carson]

She is not fit to provide her.

[Court Expert]

Own defense for that person to be part of the women's team. And that, that's the rationale for the regulation and the. And so that's a reason. That's where we'd be testing that hypothetical.

[Legal Analyst]

The reason I'm asking has to do with discrimination on the basis of transgender status. So what you seem to be saying is yes, it is permissible for the school to discriminate on the basis of transgender status.

[Rob Carson]

Because if this person and the stupid GPS just took us off a cliff.

[Legal Analyst]

Is a trans woman, a trans girl, and is barred from the team, from the girls team, then that person is being subjected to differential treatment based on transgender status.

[Rob Carson]

Right. Well, that would be.

[Court Expert]

Then the question would be whether the scrutiny would be satisfied. So from our perspective, that would be a transgender classification.

[Rob Carson]

Okay. This is like trying to. It's like arguing with a toddler. You're never going to go anywhere. They're just going to continue to spew this at you and you're going to go, you know, how about just a timeout? How about, how about just. I mean, honestly. Oh, and there's more on the other side of the break with Ketanji Brown Jackson. She, you know, honestly is an embarrassment. And if you're a Democrat or lefty or whatever, well, you wouldn't understand because you're stupid. But anyway, we got more on the other side of the break, more on the other side of the break on this. And then they were going to move on to, I don't know, Minneapolis. We'll go to Minneapolis after that. Let's take a break and come back, shall we? This, my friends, is the Rob Carson show. Hey guys, it's Carson for Relief Factor. You know, I saw an ad for Relief Factor a while back and I saw a guy literally in tears with how he talked about the pain that he was experienced was gone. It happened to me too. I started taking a few months ago. My hip was really bothering me and I wondered because I'm the age of, you know, replacement of joints and whatnot, if it could be better. And I started taking Relief Factor and it healed. It's a 100% drug free research based formula created to help your body's natural inflammatory response. The same one that cause everyday aches and pains from aging, exercise, overexertion and just normal living. It helped me with my hip, my neck, my shoulders, all the places that remind you you're not 25 anymore. Relief Factor supports a healthy response to inflammation, helping you stay active and keep those joints and muscles feeling good. It's made with four key ingredients, omega 3 fatty acids, resveratrol, curcumin and Ikarian. Each one helping from a different angle. You can start with the three week quick start for this $19.95. That's less than a cup of coffee a day. So if you're tired of creaking like an old floorboard every time you move, give Relief Factor a try. Go to relieffactor.com that's relieffactor.com and feel the difference. Relief Factor. Because getting out of bed shouldn't count as a workout. So before we dive back into the stupid in front of the Supreme Court, I want to hear this is a real Minnesotan talking about ice and you know, all the lefties up there and all these idiots that you know are being bought and paid for by George Soros and Neville Singham and all these people who are, you know, coming in to interfere with the ice and they're going to be arrested and all of that. But this is what Minnesota. This is. This, this is the, this is the quintessential Minnesotan talking about how they feel about ICE deporting illegals, particularly Somalis who come from the meth trailer park of the world and steal from taxpayers.

[Court Expert]

So ICE was just in my subur at our local grocery store while I was there and they were grabbing somebody. Nobody in the grocery store stopped them from doing their job.

[Rob Carson]

Nobody from the grocery store.

[Court Expert]

Everybody was clapping and excited about being there. People are hooting and hollering for ice.

[Rob Carson]

Hooting and hollering.

[Court Expert]

You gotta love small towns in Minnesota. Honestly, we are so stoked. And honestly, you know what I do? After the ICE agents got done with their job, what they were doing, I said, can I buy them all, you know, like something to drink, something to.

[Rob Carson]

Eat, maybe a hot dish? I did. Yeah. And I sure did because I'm excited that I. You bet you did. Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Court Expert]

It's close to still water.

[Rob Carson]

Is it Shakopee? Oh, no, it's over there on the east side there.

[Court Expert]

Just leave it at that.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, right there on the Wisconsin border.

[Court Expert]

Best thing I've seen today is watching an ice.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Court Expert]

Arrest somebody and send them back to where they came from.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. That is a Minnesotan right there talking about ice. And you know what? Honestly, that's the way it is. People are sick of this crap, to be quite honest. And, and consequently they love it when these illegals are deported. Sorry. You know, if we were in whatever country, we certainly wouldn't be in Somalia because nobody goes to Somalia because it sucks. But if we were in Mexico and we decided to say we're sneak in, we're going to camp out, we're going to, hey, can I get some free health care? Can I get free this and read that, I'll vote for your socialist candidate. They wouldn't allow that to happen because, you know, it only happens here. Gold today. $4,611. Are you ready for silver? I don't think you're ready for silver. Yesterday silver was 87. It's at $90. It's over $90 today. Silver. Silver is $90 for God's sake. Unbelievable. $4,600 for gold, $90 for silver. Isn't it time? Have I not proven to you that maybe it's time to get out of that old 401k or IRA or whatever. Maybe your savings really just savings sitting there, Savings, interest. Really. You got about as much interest from my wife in the bedroom as you're getting on your savings, I'll tell you that. And it's was zero. But anyway, maybe you should consider investing in gold. And right now, if you're a first time gold buyer, Birchgold will offer a rebate up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility. Start the process. You know the drill. Text my name, Rob to 989-898. Do it right now. Go to hit the little arrow there to text up there where it says 298-9898. Then in the body of the text Rob and send. You're going to get information, no obligation. They're going to tell you what you need to do, whatever and all that, but you better do it by the 30th of January. If it's your first time as a gold buyer, you could get up to $10,000 rebate with qualifying purchases. Text my name, Rob to 989898 if you would. If you would. Let's get back into this absurdity before the Supreme Court. Ketanji Brown Jackson. She is woke. Woke came about about what, six years, seven years ago, something like that. They suddenly woke and they, they said they called it woke. Proudly. I remember Democrat policy. I'm woke and proud. And then you realize how stupid was. They don't say it so much anymore, but they still do the stupid crap. And this woman was obviously schooled in woke and she uses a term as a Supreme Court justice, a word that didn't exist five years ago. And it is cisgendered. It is a complete construct. It's meaningless. It is meaningless. It is relabeling what has always been. That is you are born one sex or the other. There are a few who are born with a little bit of both. They probably live near a nuclear dump or a high tension wire or something that happens. You get a third this and a second that and one is on your shoulder. You never know. But generally you're born male or female. That's the way it is. You're not labeled it when you're born. It's just again, ppe. But here is Katanji Brown Jackson.

[Court Expert]

You have the overarching classification. You know, everybody has to be.

[Rob Carson]

Play.

[Court Expert]

On the team that is the same as their sex at birth.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Court Expert]

But then you have a gender identity definition that is operating within that meaning a distinction, meaning that for CIS Ginger, they can play consistent with their gender identity. For transgender girls, they can't.

[Legal Analyst]

So I think that.

[Rob Carson]

Okay, yeah, I know, me, exactly. I was like, I know. Hit yourself in the head. Just go, oh my God, she's on the Supreme Court. As to the part about your ability.

[Legal Analyst]

To pass over from boy to girl, yes, you can go from one way but not the other. I want to be clear that BBJ is not.

[Rob Carson]

You can't go back.

[Legal Analyst]

Not challenging that specific crime classification. I think that's important to start with, but I think if anything that's useful evidence as to the lack of a transgender based decision.

[Rob Carson]

Okay. So I was, you know, listening to Alito and Gorsuch and all this and I then all of a sudden, along comes Katanji Brown Jackson. And it reminded me of a bit from Saturday Night Live. Have you ever seen the three sisters bit? You know, and then the fourth sister has little tiny hands and she's crazy. That's Ketanji Brown Jackson. Sisters do as sisters should.

[Madison Kenyon]

We're all brother sister.

[Jim Gossett]

I'm Janice Alito.

[Madison Kenyon]

I'm Holly.

[Rob Carson]

I'm Morsage. I'm Nora. And what's her name? There's Cadj. Brown Jackson. Right. You're just like, oh, my God, what the hell? That is Katana Brown Jackson. That was a perfect analogy. Nobody else has that analogy. That is a great analogy. Meanwhile, here is Brett Kavanaugh. He's. He's one of the sane sisters.

[Legal Analyst]

Obviously, one of the great success in America for the last 50 years has been the growth of women and girls sports. Some states in the federal government and the NCAA and the Olympic committee think that allowing transgender women and girls to participate will undermine or reverse that amazing success for the individual girl who does not make the team or doesn't get on the stand for the medal or doesn't make all league. There's a, There's a harm there.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. You might want to think about the girls who are on the teams that are the ones who are the victims, rather than the one person over here who was born with a dinah who said. Or penis who just. Oh, it's so confusing. The boy who's dressed up like girl was competing with girls. There you go. So the, the, the, the crazy sisters, you know, are all down with the one crazy person who's decided that either because they're crazy or they just suck at their sports so they decide to become a girl. My God, if I had no shame in high school, I could have not just gotten the crap beat out of me like I did when I was. When I was in wrestling on eighth grade, I had to wrestle with the high schoolers and they beat the crap out of me. I could have just identified as a girl and been an state champion wrestler. I could have been an Iowa state champion wrestler. I could have won the state track meet and shot put in discus by a mile if I had no shame and I just decided that I was going to be on the girls team. I could have been legendary. I would be in the record books. I would win all of my events. All of my events right now. I could be in the senior Olympics. And if I identified as a. As a woman, I could. Could totally kick butt in weightlifting. I really could. I really. I'm very strong. I could each hand. I could do 60 pound dumbbells in each. No girl could do that, you know, so I could be a world champion. Well, I'm gonna have to think about this. Hold on a second. I mean, I got kind of big hands and big feet for a woman. You know, the voice isn't exactly the most feminine now. I think I'm gonna stick with being a guy. I think I'm gonna stick with being a guy. Kind of like being a guy. I win anyway, by the way. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey guys, It's Carson for Quince.com Colder days mean layers. And your winter wardrobe may have you considering a winter reset. I went to a jazz club the other night wearing a quince tee, another shirt over it and a quince wool jacket. A woman said, you look fine. I mean, it blew me away. I've spent every dime for my kids and my wife for 25 years now. I feel confident and I look good with Quince. I couldn't believe it. Quince has everything you need. Men's Mongolian cashmere sweaters, wool coats, leather and suede outerwear. Each piece made with premium materials by trusted factories that meet rigorous standards. No middlemen means no traditional markups. The wool coat I wore to the jazz club the other night turned heads cost less than I paid elsewhere. You can also find anything for your home, including kitchen, bath, and even for travel. Refresh your wardrobe at Quince. Go to quince.com newsmax that's Q-U-I-N c e.com newsmax for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com newsmax that's quince.com newsmax.

[Supreme Court Commentator]

There were some interesting moments there. Justice Gorsuch was one of the justices we're watching most closely because he had penned an earlier opinion that found that sex for workers discrimination cases did include transgender individuals. He was asking tough questions on both sides, but he was not a lock in favor of these states. But from the headcount I made, it seemed like they did have a likely five justice majority at a minimum.

[Rob Carson]

In other words, words, five sane justices.

[Supreme Court Commentator]

But we'll have to wait to see. But various justices said, well, come on, you know, one of the things we have to do here is look at Title 9.

[Rob Carson]

Title 9 was created because women were and I remember when Title 9 passed was in the 90s because women's sports was being underfunded and men's sports got all of the funding right. And so women's sports was dying on the vine on university camp by around the country, and they stepped in with Title IX and said, yo, let's let girls have an opportunity to get scholarships and whatnot.

[Supreme Court Commentator]

Bans discrimination on the basis of sex. And yet you don't want us to ask, you know, what is sex? What is being female? What is male? How do we do that? So there's a lot of questions like that.

[Rob Carson]

I tell you what, they've just made things more complicated than they ever needed to be. It's just because we live in a time of great stupidity. The stupid is strong with this one. Honestly. Honestly. Yesterday, this athlete, her name's Madison Kenyon and she's a cross country runner. Not uncommon when you're a Kenyan to be a cross country runner. Kenyans from the country of Kenya usually are. But she's not. Her name is Kenyon. Here she is talking about why. Why it's bad for women to compete against men.

[Madison Kenyon]

I went to Idaho State University on a tracking cross country scholarship where I raised a male athlete in the women's division many times. And I lost every time along with hundreds of other women.

[Rob Carson]

Look at the, the international marathon records and you'll see. Or any track and field event involving men versus any track and field event involving women. The men are always faster and stronger and stuff.

[Madison Kenyon]

I saw a teammate pushed off a.

[Rob Carson]

Podium because we're faster and stronger and stuff.

[Madison Kenyon]

And I know that that roster spot didn't go to a woman. And after seeing that and knowing that this is not fair. I stood up to protect these sports that gave me so much, gave me my education. And it's not fair for women to compete against men. It ruins the integrity of women's sports.

[Rob Carson]

It's heartbreaking, it's soul crushing, and it's also utterly, utterly ridiculous. How dare the Democrat party and the left put women through this. Why are women even still down with this nonsense? Are there any women who are down with this nonsense? I mean, listen, here's one. Actually, this is one of the dumbest people I could ever imagine out in front of the Supreme Court literally saying men and women should compete together because there's no difference.

[Court Expert]

Why are you splitting up sports? Like, I'm making sure a woman can play basketball as well as a man if she practice.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure any woman could compete in anything if they just do exercises and go to practice and stuff. They compete with every. Yeah, okay. How's that WNBA versus NBA thing? How many? Seven, Three. And actually over seven feet. Women are There. The answer is absolutely none. Here's some more from Madison Kenyon.

[Madison Kenyon]

It was pretty consistent across the line that it's unfair for a woman to step on the line against a male. It's like you haven't started the race, but the result has already been decided. And running is a mental sport. If you think that, then that's what happens. And we're athletes. We're not participating for a participation trophy. We're sacrificing every single day to go out and race and to beat the odds.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. It is utterly ridiculous that we have what Mr. Spock say. He said the meeting. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Yeah. In this case, absolutely. It is utterly ridiculous to ruin the dreams of young women so that guys who suck at their sports sport can get into, well, get in the same locker room with them. Leah Thomas, the swimmer, was still having sex with women as a man when she was in the locker room with. With female athletes. And of course, winning all the meets because she's he, him, they, them, them there, whatever the hell, you know, are so much faster because he's a dude.

[Court Expert]

Is there room, though, to stand behind those concerns?

[Rob Carson]

She's gonna stay on the line here.

[Court Expert]

And still empathize with trans students who want to have school experiences.

[Madison Kenyon]

I think it's really important to understand that when women compete against women, it is fair. When you put a man in women's athletics, it's not fair. And women have nowhere else to go. If you take away the fairness in our sports, we literally have nowhere else to go. But when men compete against men, it is fair, and when women compete against women, it is fair. And so in order to protect the opportunity that I have in college to get a scholarship to get an education for all future generations of women, it is so important that we can recognize that women should only compete against women.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I remember. Remember when I said that 2024 had to be the year we returned to common sense from nonsense. These are the stragglers. Okay. This is the overlay for the overlap into a Supreme Court case this year. One more Madison Kenyon. And then Kristen Wagoner was with her talking about the obvious.

[Court Expert]

There's certainly a feeling of. So I just wonder from sort of your point of view, how just on a very human level, you see that.

[Madison Kenyon]

I think it's important to see that anyone should participate in sports. But sports is based on biology.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Madison Kenyon]

And that's why it's important that women only compete against men. So anyone can play sports. But where Is it most fair for women? That's only against women, you see, because.

[Rob Carson]

Sex, it was made for making babies. And it involves the male and the female. I mean, there are other ways to do it, don't get me wrong. But it was created for reproduction.

[Madison Kenyon]

I mean, this idea of kindness and compassion, we should be extending that to all people.

[Rob Carson]

There are other ways, trust me.

[Madison Kenyon]

No matter how they identify. And we shouldn't be making differences on the basis of how someone identifies if that's not relevant to the particular inquiry. I think the other big piece to put there is. You said how. How do they feel? Well, I want to focus on the harm to the girls.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Madison Kenyon]

Because even in a case before the Supreme Court, over 420 girls have been displaced 1100 times and lost 57 medals to the boy at the heart of the case. So let's talk about how those 400 girls are feeling in this moment.

[Rob Carson]

I gotta tell you, I. I want. I want the left to feel bad about this for the rest of their lives. Because what they put us through, what they put society through, what they put women through with this nonsense, is unforgivable. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. All right, we're gonna wrap up the talk about transgender nonsense with a piece of satire that we threw together a few years ago on the show with Jim Gossett.

[Jim Gossett]

When you're a man who calls himself a girl.

[Rob Carson]

Came up with this about four years ago.

[Jim Gossett]

It can be a bonus because it.

[Rob Carson]

Was so ridiculous from the get go.

[Jim Gossett]

You see, when you compete with women, you have to hide.

[Rob Carson]

This was disinformation at one point.

[Jim Gossett]

Oh, that pair of. Of kojas.

[Rob Carson]

That's a Spanish for I can cycle against the girls.

[Jim Gossett]

That's my choice.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[Jim Gossett]

I can steal their medals with this manly voice. Cause the left makes me feel. The left makes me feel. The left makes me feel like. Like a transgender woman. When I compete with females, I'm the one that's feared cuz I'm the only person in the race with a beard. But somehow I feel. The left makes me feel. They make me feel like a transgender woman.

[Rob Carson]

Everybody. Here we go, woman. There you go. It's just been utterly, utterly ridiculous. Everything's been ridiculous and. And it's all beginning to fall apart. Woke universities and colleges forced to trim, fat and slash thousands of jobs. Academia is falling apart because they perpetrated this stupid nonsense on US University. Nebraska's cut 51 jobs. Wyoming Community College, 33 jobs. Reorganized 30 others. All of D E. I C R T bullcrap. This leftist Marxist Maoist bullcrap is is disappearing into the ether and now we gotta pick up the pieces of the the absurdity of it all and and and how it divided us and how one side of the political equation conservatism was right and and the left drilled points into their followers heads to make them convinced that men can be women, women can be men. Trump is a Nazi. You are a Nazi. I am a Nazi for supporting Trump Trump. Elon Musk is a Nazi. Joe Biden's brain is fine. All of this. All of this. And I am optimistic about 2026 beyond just the economy but just for common sense and we can beat this horde of leftists into the pits of hell. All right. They're going to try dragging us kicking and screaming to hell with them. The Democrat party in the left. But we're not going are we? We are not going. Our number two of the Rob Carson show is next. We're going to be talking about Minnesota and accountability. Don't go anywhere.