Elon Musk Reveals If This Isn't Stopped, America's Fall Is Irreversible

Summary

The Rubin Report – July 10, 2026

Episode Title: “Elon Musk Reveals If This Isn't Stopped, America's Fall Is Irreversible”

Host: Dave Rubin

Guests: Larry Elder (Host, The Larry Elder Show), Brian Dean Wright (Host, The Wright Report; former CIA officer)

Air Date: July 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This dynamic Friday roundtable explores escalating concerns about America’s future, focusing on societal decay, electoral integrity, leadership crises, and foreign policy challenges. Using a recent clip of Elon Musk on Joe Rogan as a launch point, Dave Rubin together with Larry Elder and Brian Dean Wright examine the incentives driving political dysfunction, the collapse of the family, media hypocrisy, the crisis in California, and looming dangers internationally—particularly with Iran.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Elon Musk on “Incentives” Driving American Decline

• Clip Discussion [02:06-02:44]:

  • Elon Musk asserts that Democrat policies encouraging open borders, government “handouts,” and lax prosecutions are not rooted in Marxist ideology per se, but serve as practical incentives: “If you want to understand behavior, you have to look at the incentives…” [E, 02:06]
  • These incentives ostensibly attract new, dependent voters who will secure Democratic majorities.

• Rubin: “If you just look at those three things in terms of how a society can either function or not function, that's enough to destroy a place.” [A, 03:12]

• Larry Elder: Democrats’ strategy is to “import new voters”—the “symptom” being open borders, but the core calculation is the demographic decline in white Democratic voters. He notes studies suggesting real numbers of undocumented immigrants are far higher than admitted: “You're talking about 45 or 50 million people who, if given a path of citizenship and become voters, will pull the lever for Democrats probably two thirds at least, thereby giving them a governing majority indefinitely.” [B, 04:07]

2. Social Disorder, Technology & the Breakdown of the Family

• Viral Lawlessness [05:27–10:38]:
  • Example: Over 400 arrested during July 4th chaos in Newport Beach, including looting and fires. [A, 05:27]
  • Elder points to the collapse of the nuclear family—particularly among black Americans—tracing it to welfare policies since the 1960s: “70% of black kids enter the world without a father in the home, married to their mother…” [B, 06:20]
  • TikTok and technology are exacerbating social problems by facilitating organized chaos. Wright warns: “If you've got exactly… societal breakdown… you then apply technology… organize all the feral masses… that's precisely what you have in places like we just saw.” [C, 08:56]
  • The term “feral” is lauded as inclusive and apt for describing directionless youth. [B, 10:06]

3. California: A Microcosm of Broader U.S. Dysfunction

a. Election Integrity and Gavin Newsom’s Maneuvers

• Newsom attempts to criminalize pre-certification ballot review, all while California voting lacks basic ID requirements. [G, 11:39 | A, 12:27]
• Wright contrasts California’s laxity with Taiwan’s rigorous system: “Taiwan treats their vote in a very sacred way… you vote with an id.” [C, 12:43]
• Elder: Points to Democrat hypocrisy and their documented history of questioning election results, but facing no blowback: “Every single victory the… Republicans have won since 2000 has been challenged during certification by Democrats. Nobody calls them election deniers.” [B, 15:32]

b. Changing Demographics & Political Realities in L.A.

• Republican voter registration in L.A. has plummeted from 30% (1997) to 15%, making Republican wins virtually impossible. [B, 18:23]
• Elder notes the “machine” politics and that even illegitimate or controversial methods are accepted if they serve anti-Trump or Democratic interests: “If you say F you to Donald Trump enough times, I may get the nomination for presidency and I may win. That's his whole M.O.” [B, 19:22]

c. Entrenched Voting Behavior and Social Decay

• Despite terrible outcomes—homelessness, unemployment, drug abuse—voters persistently support Democrats: “Zombie voters…pulling the lever for Democrats, no matter what.” [B, 21:46]

4. The Politicization of Candidate Selection and Party Loyalty

• Rubin and guests highlight examples of parties backing deeply flawed candidates (e.g., Andrew Gillum in Florida, Graham Platner in Maine).
  • Gillum: Rubin points out close 2018 election could have resulted in a “meth addict” as governor, affecting COVID/crisis responses. [A, 24:12]
  • Platner: The Democratic machine is accused of prioritizing “interchangeable parts” over principles, dumping candidates only when polling collapses despite egregious behavior and associations (Nazi tattoo, assault allegations). [B, 27:25 | C, 29:31]
• Elder contrasts Democratic handling of MeToo-era accusations—ignoring issues for their own “guys”—with the repeated and exhaustive vetting of Trump: “When the guy coughs up a hairball, there'll be a story about that… and the American people said, this is our guy.” [B, 30:44]

5. Iran: Escalation, Risks, and Political Calculus

• Trump’s Rhetoric [32:41, 39:22]:

  • Trump floats the possibility of taking over Kharg Island, destroying Iranian electric/desalinization infrastructure, but also signals willingness to negotiate.
  • Uncertainty about full-scale conflict: “Are we returning to a full scale military conflict, sir?...I don't know. But winning very quickly, it's another way of doing it. We have many ways we can win, but we've already won militarily.” [F/K, 39:22–39:47]

• Risks of Modern Warfare:

  • Wright: Drones and cheap long-range munitions have disrupted traditional assumptions—taking infrastructure may not be decisive. “Your adversary can come up with creating drones and basically something the size of a garage… an unending supply of these very, very cheap munitions… tremendous damage.” [C, 34:04]
  • Elder: Emphasizes the apocalyptic, martyrdom-oriented Iranian regime: “What would these mofos do if they had a nuclear bomb? That's why we're here… These are people that put women and children in front of proposed bomb sites…” [B, 35:45]
  • Both agree: Only broad, clear public communication and alliance-building can justify severe action, otherwise the costs are “profound.” [C, 38:57]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Elon Musk on incentive structures:
  “If you want to understand behavior, you have to look at the incentives… open borders and you provide a ton of government handouts… they will vote for you.” [E, 02:06]

• Larry Elder on Demographic Change:
  “You're importing future voters… putting a path to citizenship for probably 50 million people… a governing majority indefinitely.” [B, 04:07]

• Brian Dean Wright on Democrat Base:
  “The base has become unhinged from reality, from basic facts and data…” [C, 04:37]

• Larry Elder on Family Breakdown:
  “70% of black kids enter the world without a father in the home… five times more likely to be poor and commit crime…” [B, 06:20]

• Brian Dean Wright on Technology’s Dark Side:
  “Let's organize all the feral masses… imagine if an adversary gets a hold of one of those tools… you're going to have those kinds of horrible, horrible outcomes.” [C, 08:56]

• Larry Elder on Voting Trends:
  “Zombie voters…pulling the lever for Democrats, no matter what.” [B, 21:46]

• Larry Elder on Election Hypocrisy:
  “Every single victory the… Republicans have won since 2000 has been challenged… Nobody calls them election deniers.” [B, 15:32]

• On Iran’s Regime:
  “What would these mofos do if they had a nuclear bomb? … These are people that put women and children in front of proposed bomb sites…” [B, 35:45]

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Key Timestamps for Major Segments

• Musk on Incentives Driving Democratic Policy: 02:06–02:44
• Collapse of the Family & Riots: 06:20–08:06
• Tech & Viral Lawlessness: 08:56–10:38
• California Voting & Newsom: 11:39–19:22
• Drugs and Depravity in Politics (Gillum & Platner): 23:37–30:44
• Iran, Drones, New Warfare: 32:41–38:57
• Final Thoughts/Global Stakes: 39:22–42:42

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Summary Flow & Tone

The conversation is spirited, irreverent, often blunt, laced with dark humor and a mix of cynicism and guarded optimism. The panel takes pains to expose what they view as root causes behind America’s unraveling—self-inflicted through policy, culture, and media—while warning that without radical course correction, “America's fall is irreversible.”

They end with guarded hope that clear-eyed communication and courage might still reverse course, urging more Americans to “wake up” before it's too late.

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[Note: Ad breaks and non-content chatter omitted. All speaker attributions and quotes marked with timestamps. For direct, unabridged transcript, refer to the original recording.]

Transcript

[A]

All right, ladles and jelly spoons. I'm Dave Rubin. This is the Rubin Report. It is Friday, July 10, 2026. And that means it's time for another Friday roundtable extravaganza. We have a good one for you. You know, normally, who cares, really? But today we said, let's do it. We have my old friend, host of the Larry Elder Show, Larry Elder, and multiple Rubin Report guest, but it's been too long. Host of the Wright Report, Brian Dean Wright. Gentlemen, what's going on?

[B]

No shortage of thing to talk about.

[A]

There is never a shortage before we do anything here. Larry, I've known you for many years. People know our history. You woke me out of my leftist stupor. All that stuff. I've never seen you in a red shirt before. I'm freaking out. What's going on? Is this casual Fridays? What's happening over there? You wear blue. You're a blue guy.

[B]

My interior designer girlfriend says this is not red. This is ash. Ash burnt orange. And the jacket is some color I never heard of, but it's not brown either. So you have the same kind of eye for fashion that I have. Which.

[A]

Which is blue. It is, as you can see, Brian, one time CIA guy, now podcaster blue. That's the standard color for us people in boxing.

[C]

It's the suit.

[B]

And Dave, give it up for the pocket square. Come on. No.

[A]

And it's a very impressive pocket square, Brian. I feel I should compliment you somehow. That's a lovely light behind your shoulder.

[C]

Thank you. Thank you. Is perfectly placed. I picked it on teemu. No doubt. It's very high end.

[A]

All right, let's get to it, guys. Yeah, we're just going to recap the week. A lot of interesting things happen. I thought we'd start with something that I think will play well for both of you guys. I want to throw to a clip of Elon on Rogan talking a bit about in that everyone now is talking about how radical the Democrat party has become, but how they're actually incentivizing so much of the bad behavior that we're seeing across the country right now.

[D]

Take a look.

[E]

If you want to understand behavior, you have to look at the incentives. So once the Democratic party in the US on the left, in Europe realized that if you have open borders and you provide a ton of government handouts, which creates a massive financial incentive for people from. From other countries to come to your country and you don't prosecute them for crime, they're gonna be beholden to you and they will vote for you. And that's why Obama and Hillary went from being against open borders to being in favor of open borders.

[A]

Larry, if we just put aside communism and Marxism and socialism and all that stuff aside for a second, if you just look at the three things he mentioned there, borders, handouts and prosecutions, or lack thereof, that pretty much gets to the heart of all of this. You almost don't have to address the communist stuff. We're going to get into it, obviously. But if you just look at those three things in terms of how a society can either function or not function, that's enough to destroy a place.

[B]

Well, that's right. What Elon Musk mentioned, however, are symptoms. The real issue is the fact that Democrats have lost the white vote since 1964 and they've realized very quickly they need to import new voters in order to win. New voters will be the ones that are going to be dependent upon you for government. They'll be appreciative that you allowed them in. And they're from third world countries that push for socialist type policies that the Democrats support. So you're importing future voters. And the hope is that at some point Republicans will get weak need and they will accede to, quote, comprehensive immigration reform, putting a path to citizenship for probably 50 million people. It's not 11 or 12 million people that they've been saying for a long time. There was a study done by a bunch of professors from Ivy League schools, which means you probably ought to doubt the study.

[A]

But they're quoting the study and doubting the study. I like that.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

And then of course, Biden has allowed in a minimum of 10 million. Trump says 20 million. It's probably somewhere in the middle. You're talking about 45 or 50 million people who, if given a path of citizenship and become voters, will pull the lever for Democrats probably two thirds at least, thereby giving them a governing majority indefinitely. That's what the goal is.

[A]

Brian, do you think the average rank and file Democrat understands this cynical game that their leadership seems to be playing?

[C]

I think that the rank and file Democrats would that women can have penises. So I'm not sure that there are a bunch of folks that we should probably reach to for intellectual insights, but no, but in all seriousness, the base has become unhinged from reality, from basic facts and data. They don't use a lot of logic and reason and we see this across the board. So of course, if they were to be presented with that, they would either call it a conspiracy theory or good. And look, I think we don't need to look any further than the state that you all both love very, very much. Not as California. What happens when you import people from around the world who don't necessarily care about your country, what ends up happening to those states? And you have chaos and you have breakdown of your society and of course you can't afford things from homeowners insurance to medical insurance to basic decent quality of. And I think that that really should part of the matter that Elon Musk gets.

[A]

So to your point, I want to jump to this. Look at this tweet from this actually took place last week on July 4th, of course in Cali, Newport Beach. So this is actually a little more of a conservative area than say LA Central. Over 400 arrested in Newport beach as July 4th celebrations turn chaotic with looting, fires and street violence in multiple cities. Take a look at some of the video here.

[B]

Hey12, trying to shut the beach down. When I come back to this tomorrow,

[A]

I'mma lay button on through this. Larry, lay a button all through this. Can you help me with that one? As the sage of South Central, I

[B]

was going to ask you, do you have any data on the racial breakdown of these kids that were engaging in this behavior? We only saw one person, he was black. I look back at the other ones, they appear to be black. So my suspicion is the majority of these people are black. The reason that's important is because 70% of black kids enter the world without a father in the home, married to their mother and the stats have been clear for decades. Even Obama one sided them. When you're raised without a father, you're five times more likely to be poor and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of school and 20 times more likely to end up in jail. It is in my opinion the most important social problem facing this country in general and the most important social problem facing the black community in particular. Why has this happened? In the mid-60s a Democrat named Lyndon Johnson launched a so called war on poverty and specifically provided all sorts of benefits for people, provided you are a single mom without a man in the house. And it incentivized women to marry the government and incentivize men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility. So the out of wedlock birth weight went from 25% and 65 now to 70%. If you look at the out of birth rate weight for whites, it also tripled over that same period of time. So it's not just disincentivizing women, black women from getting married, it's disincentivizing white women from getting married. It is a neutron bomb dropped on this country. And frankly, neither party is talking about it. Democrats don't talk about it because they created the problem. Republicans don't talk about it because they're afraid to be called racist.

[A]

Do you think, though, before I have Brian jump in, Larry, in that you have been talking about this for so long, I mean, it is talked about more. It doesn't mean people are doing anything about it. But you would acknowledge that at least in the alt media circles, people are referencing this more. I mean, again, you led on this for 20 years when it was impossible to say. It's not impossible to say anymore.

[B]

Well, when I briefly ran for president and I ran not because I wanted to displace Donald Trump, because I wanted to talk about issues like this and a few other things as well. But I had a conversation with Mr. Trump, excuse me, in his private office at Mar a Lago, and I told him about this and I told him he was not talking enough about it and he tweeted something about the breakdown of the family. But if you ever heard President Trump say at any of his rallies, what I just now said about the 70% stat about this is disproportionately affecting the black community. I've never heard him say it. And if, and if Donald Trump said it, people would start talking about it. But he hasn't.

[A]

That's interesting, Brian. Putting aside the racial component here, you know, when we play videos like that, I see some of the comments and people will be like, ah, you know, it's a bunch of young kids doing some stupid stuff. But I think it's a much bigger sickness than that because it's happening all the time, everywhere now.

[C]

Yeah. So let me build on what Larry just thoughtfully said and what you're bringing up now. If you look into how this was organized, the vast majority of the kids were aged 13 to 18 and they found about about this on TikTok. Many of them came from Arizona. So I think what that is also an interesting and really important angle to this story to understand that if you've got exactly what Larry is talking about, which is a societal breakdown, you then apply technology on of it, which is to say, hey, let's organize all the feral masses. You are going to have precisely what you have in places like we just saw over the the past weekend. And I think that that is from my national security background perspective. My goodness, can you imagine what happens if an adversary gets a hold of one of those tools and starts Agitating for kids to do these kinds of things or any, any set of adults, you're going to have those kinds of horrible, horrible outcomes. But on a mass, mass level, imagine if we went to work with China, what, what they would be able to do with it with an algorithm, set of algorithms, with TikToks, with, with our kind of broken society. So I would offer that. That is another critical piece that Larry so eloquently is laying out for us. What happens when your foundation of your home is broken? You're going to get really bad stuff with technology laid over that.

[A]

Yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to follow up with you on that. Yeah, go ahead, Larry.

[B]

Dave, he used the word feral, which I thought was really a good word. And it's a race neutral word. I was campaigning in Iowa and I was talking to the chief of police at a town called Johnston City, about 25,000 people, about 90%, 99% white. And I said, do you have a gang problem here? He said, yeah, not like Chicago. I said, what's the common theme? He says, no father figure. Not a father, not a grandfather, not a coach, not a pastor. These kids have no father figure in their homes and they join gangs. So it's what's going on and it makes people feral. I think it's a wonderful word for it.

[A]

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[G]

Let me speak directly to anyone considering helping President Trump interfere with, with our election or our count. If you violate California's laws. If you interfere with our voters, tamper with our ballots, or meddle in our election, you will be prosecuted. Doesn't matter who gave the order in this state, our state, our vote, it's sacred. Our polling places will be free of intimidation. Our counting will be open, honest and complete. And Californians will use every power, every lawyer, every law, every ounce of will to defend our democracy against any a legal order this president dares to issue. That's why I'm moving forward with new legislation that would make it a felony to seize ballots before the vote has been certified by state and county officials.

[A]

Brian, I know Larry's salivating to go here, but I'm going to let you go first. I mean, like, it's not even hypocrisy. It's not even double standards. It's not even just over the top. It's so profoundly ridiculous in a state that does not ask for ID at the ballot box.

[C]

Well, that's the sacred part, clearly. No, you know, look again, national security perspective. Taiwan treats their vote in a very sacred way. You have to vote same day with the elections revealed that same day, you vote with an id. There's no absentee ballots. You can watch the electoral process in live when votes are being counted, and that's because they're concerned about China coming in with shenanigans. So if we want to have a sacred degree of voting, let's use the Taiwan model. But clearly California isn't interested in that because the more that you leave your system vulnerable, the more that you can tinker with it. Newsom knows that. Democrats know that. Anybody with a functioning brain cell knows that. And that, of course, is what we need to call that guy out on Larry.

[A]

To the backdrop of what just happened in the LA mayoral elections, where quite literally, Nithya Raman, with tears in her eyes, conceded on election night, only to find out a week later that she'll be in the election and Spencer Pratt won't. Again, the gall of this guy. I know there is no floor there. I get it. It's just endless and endless and endless. But you'd think it's just incredible to me that he can keep getting up there with a straight face and doing this stuff.

[B]

Well, what's incredible to me is that we are called election deniers for questioning the election of 2020, when for four years, Hillary Clinton referred to Trump 1.0 as illegitimate. The election was stolen. Her word, not mine, did it over and over and over again. John Lewis, the most respected man in the House who marched with mlk, referred to Donald Trump as illegitimate, did not attend the inauguration because he thought the Russian put him there. This is before there was even an investigation. And nobody called him an election denier. In 2000, Supreme Court ruled that the Forward Accounting should stop making George W. Bush the winner. Al Gore to this day believes that the election was stolen from him. He's used that word. Four years later, George W. Bush gets reelected. And 30 Democrats tried to decertify Ohio claiming the Diebold voting machine had been hacked. Nobody called them election deniers. One of those 30, by the way, was Bennie Thompson, who was on the January 6 committee claiming that Donald Trump had engaged in an insurrection. And I forgot to mention, after the 2000 election, there were 12 Democrats that tried to decertify Florida on the certification day making the same argument. Fast forward 2016. Democrats challenged more states than Donald Trump did four years later. Nobody called them election deniers. My point is, every single victory the Democrats Republicans have won since 2000 has been challenged during certification by Democrats. Nobody calls them election deniers. Donald Trump raises very legitimate arguments about Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and about the laptop story being subdued and suppressed. All perfectly legitimate arguments. And this man is called an election denier. But Democrats have denied elections for a very long time and they get a pass.

[A]

My audience has heard me say it before, but since I have you here, Larry, it's worth mentioning that when the recall election happened and I was obvious so thrilled to vote for you and I went in person to vote, they had given me the mail in. And I remember we tested it. And no matter which way you folded it, if you voted for Larry Elder, not Gavin Newsom, but if you voted for Larry Elder, no matter which way you could fold that trifold thing, it could be seen through the envelope. So they bake in a certain amount of skepticism. And then I voted in person and I went to bring bust out my id, it was just force of habit. I walked in, start busting out my id, and the guy, he happened to recognize me, he goes, no, no, no, no, no, Dave, Don, show me that. And that just tells you how absolutely insane it is. But the insanity has a silver lining. It starts waking people up. The guy that they have red pilled to the extreme right now is the one who won't be the next mayor of Los Angeles. Spencer Pratt.

[G]

Watch this moving forward, new legislation that would make it a felony to seize ballots before the vote has been certified by state and county officials. We will be the wall he cannot get passed.

[H]

That's like banning the bank from having security cameras. Now, the timing of this was deliberate. He knows this won't hold up in court, but he did it so close to the election day, he knew the courts wouldn't be able to overturn it in time for the election. It's truly like going up against the casino. The deck is so stacked against you, you never really stand a chance. You can play if you choose, but the House will never lose. So now in California, you can loot $950 of merchandise. You can knowingly infect someone with HIV, but if you try to prevent vote

[G]

fraud, you will be prosecuted.

[H]

How can you secure the money if you can't lock the vault? How can you catch the robbers if you're not allowed to monitor the vault? And how can you even identify if the vault were even robbed in the first place if you can't even count the money?

[A]

Brian, do you think that they will rue the day they screwed with this guy? Or does any of it? Or just. It won't matter. It just won't matter.

[C]

He ran against a machine and he was shredded. But that man is still standing strong and tall, and I'm loving what he's putting out. I mean, this is exactly what you do to change a broken system. You have to speak to it. And I have seen this abroad. The people who stand up the loud, loudest, they sometimes unfortunately take the literal bullet, but they change the systems. And that is precisely the role that he's playing in California and for his family, for all of us. I say do more of it. We need more of that. It will change the system over time. It's gonna be tough, but he can do it.

[A]

Larry, when I saw you in LA a couple weeks before that LA mayoral election, I was on your radio show, and I couldn't remember if you said it to me on air or during the break, but I did repeat it on my show. You said to me you thought he had a zero percent chance because of the shenanigans. As usual, you turned out to be right. So does it matter when he points out these obvious, ridiculous things? Does it matter? Is there any chance this place that you live in, that you're in right now can turn around a couple of

[B]

things I said that. Shenanigans. Plus the fact that in 1997, when LA last elected a Republican mayor, registration was 30% Republican. Fast forward, it is now 15% Republican. It is almost impossible to win with or without cheating. Rick Caruso, who is a longtime Republican, then became an independent way before the election for mayor. Against Karen Bass, he became a Democrat. He spent $100 million of his own money, she spent $10 million. Of course, when you add up all the union stuff, it's probably about the same. And he lost about nine points. So that's the math. That's how daunting it is regarding what Gavin Newsom said about going after you for seizing ballots before there's been a certification and all that nonsense. It doesn't matter that it's illegal. He knows it's illegal. Just as he knows when he signed a bill mandating that you're a publicly held company in California. You must have a member of the LGBTQIA community on your board of directors.

[A]

How are you going to prove it? That's what I want to know.

[B]

It doesn't matter. He's saying, screw you. Trump and his popularity went up when he did that proposition that redesigned and re gerrymanded California in order to combat what Donald Trump did in Texas. His numbers went up. So his perception is we need somebody to say F you to Donald Trump. If you say F you to Donald Trump enough times, I may get the nomination for presidency and I may win. That's his whole M.O.

[A]

it's just so crazy to me that these people are watching their city and their state burn, in some cases literally, and they're going, well, as long as he sticks it to Trump, we'll be okay. Let me show you one more from the very red pilled Spencer Pratt corrupt

[H]

rig system and changing it for the next election. If I have to be the kamikaze pilot to finally get this fixed, so be it. There's a right way and a wrong way to do this. The right way isn't easy, but it ends with commie animals in handcuffs. I will restore faith in our elections if it's the last thing I do. And to all you fraudsters out there, we've been watching you. And justice is coming.

[A]

Well, the key part of that is and justice is coming. We seem to live in a world where we get an awful bunch of bad people doing horrible things and nobody ever pays the price. Brian, I don't like black pilling, particularly on Fridays before the weekend, but I just don't sense that anyone's going to pay the price for anything.

[C]

Yeah, look, I think that the key here is having a Trump Department of Justice that is actually serious about this issue, recognizes that there is an issue, and is willing to put resources to investigate it. That process is not going to be quick. You got a machine in California that has been out there for 20, 30 years, it's going to take time to bust through that. And I know a lot of people get frustrated, understandably so, because as we wait for justice, as we wait for the typical investigations to commence and then continue and get to prosecutions and the convictions, a lot of bad stuff happens. And that's right. But unfortunately, unless you're gonna go, you know, full bouquet lay of El Salvador and just declare that, you know, the Constitution out and you have to be patient and it's gonna be hard. But I think the goal here is admirable. We have to do it. And with a Trump Department of Justice, we actually have a shot to really get to where we need to be.

[A]

So, Larry, we tried. We tried. And then, you know, I fled. You stayed is what it is. I moved to the free state of Florida. Which brings me to the next story, because this is so insane.

[B]

Can I just add one.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead, before I jump.

[B]

Yeah. Spencer Pratt used the term zombie homeless people, talking about people that are sitting there doing crack and doing meth. The real problem is, in addition to zombie homeless people are zombie voters that are walking, stepping around these people doing crack and doing meth and then pulling the lever for Democrats, no matter what. Highest unemployment in the nation. Largest gap between the rich and the poor probably in the nation. More homeless people anywhere in the nation. More illegal aliens in the nation. The price of a home is twice that of the national average. Highest gas prices, highest state income taxes. I could go on and on and on. Yet people still pull that lever for the Democratic Party because they've been taught that Republicans are a four letter word. No matter how bad things are, Republicans will make things worse.

[A]

You know, the other part of this is that people seem to think that the drug problem doesn't affect normal or average people too. There is a producer that I have known for years, highly successful. Larry, I'll text you later. You probably have crossed paths with this guy in la, well known in our world, who I had dinner with in LA about a year ago when I was in LA a couple weeks ago. He's a junkie now. I saw him on the show. I literally walked past him and he looked like a shell of his former self with the hunch and the entire thing. And I literally saw him doing a drug deal, literally. So it's not just this caricature thing. These are real people. But in any event, I moved to Florida and then, well, this kind of combines everything. Cause speaking of junkies, in 2018, Ron DeSantis, who's now wrapping up his eighth year and his whole term here in Florida. He only beat the Democrat candidate, Andrew Gillum by 0.4. Not four points, by 0.4. Okay, well, it turns out that Andrew Gillum is a meth and a whole bunch of other stuff addict and has been for years. And he was arrested again. Take a look at this from Fox.

[I]

Andrew Gillum, who was the Democratic nominee for the governor's race that year, was arrested just last week on drug related charges. He was actually pulled over around 10:45 in the evening on July 2 after cops spotted him driving erratically. And they eventually had cause to search his car when they noticed a glass pipe in the center console. And that is when they recovered three packages of meth, marijuana, a bong, pipes and cut straws. Gillum was charged on possession of dangerous drugs, possession of drug paraphernalia and possession of marijuana.

[A]

I guess he was on his way to Hunter Biden's house. Larry, Larry, the reason I'm showing you that is not to just pile on that guy. He's irrelevant now, but more so to show how these elections actually matter. Imagine if that meth addict, and it turned out he was a meth addict when he was running. Imagine if that guy had been in charge of Florida for these last eight years, where the entire country would be. When you think about everything that happened during COVID and everything else.

[B]

Dave, I'm old enough to remember a guy named Marion Berry who was the mayor of Washington D.C. yeah, I'm surprised. You hope two guys remember him.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Older than you. I'm 74 years old. I know I don't.

[A]

The black don't crack, huh?

[B]

Speaking of crack, the elder, the Barry, the sweet of the Jews. Oh, he was there. So Marion Barry is caught on tape lighting up a crack pipe with a woman and the federalities bust in and he famously said, the bitch set me up. That's called taking responsibility, Brian.

[A]

I mean, literally, this is the guy that could have been running Florida. I mean, the entire, the course of the world, I think, would be fundamentally different.

[C]

Amen. And I have to build on what Larry just was joking about. Everybody knew about Marion Barry, like his drug and whoring tendencies were not some shock to the system. Democrats knew this in much the same way. I can't help but believe the Democrats didn't know this about this junkie, their junkie in Florida. So that really again speaks to this whole tribal thing, the machine. They will prop up anybody if they think that it can bring them electoral victory for the party Irrespective of the person and how ultimately damaging it is to him. That guy needs to be in a rehab facility. Facility, not in public office. But they were willing to use him and his addiction to their advantage.

[A]

Yeah, Brian, you gave me a perfect segue there. Because in that they will support anyone, no matter how bad, as long as it will attain them power. There was a guy with a Nazi tattoo who is a major alcoholic who sexually accosted a bunch of women. He liked to masturbate in porta Potties, which frankly, seems like the worst of all of them. His name is Graham Platner. He is no longer the nominee from Maine.

[B]

Here.

[A]

He is saying that he is stepping down.

[J]

And so we're suspending campaign operations. I want to make clear, though, I intend to file my paperwork to withdraw the process needs to assure that what comes next is reflective of the Mainers who on June 9th turned out and showed that they are desperate for a different kind of politics.

[A]

Larry, in that this guy, there was nothing uniquely special about him besides that the mustache was a little longer than the beard, but there was no track record of building great things. It's not as if he was the best orator. Look, you know, you can at least argue Newsom wears a suit. Well, something like that. There was nothing special other than he perfectly toed the line, which, to Brian's point, like, they want power, so it's just interchangeable parts. Are you surprised that they even bailed on him? And are you worried that it sounds like they've got this other guy who's gonna step in who will have all the same policies, that somehow this will actually work to their advant in a weird way against Susan Gans.

[B]

Well, remember they recruited alc. It was kind of a committee, and she applied. She was a bartender. She had no track record either. But they felt she was attractive and she could articulate the hard left issues. Same thing here. They wanted a guy that they thought would be able to beat Susan Collins. He had a beard. He was an oyster farmer. Allegedly grew up relatively humble. He wore plaid flannel jackets and he had a gruff voice. And he was a veteran. That was their definition of a man. So it really didn't matter. They thought that he was going to be able to beat Susan Collins. And it wasn't until the poll numbers went south that they threw him out of the window. If the poll numbers had not gone south after the revelation of all these women, they'd still be standing by him. They believe in regarding the Nazi tattoo. It didn't bother them at all. They believed that it takes a Nazi to defeat a Nazi. So it probably was an advantage for this guy.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Let me show you a little compilation of some of his biggest supporters who have just thrown him under the bus.

[C]

I like Bram Platinum.

[B]

You like Bram Platinum.

[A]

That's my kind of man.

[C]

I would vote for Platner.

[A]

Let's get some power. Let's take over the Senate. Let's take over the House.

[B]

Somebody that has put his life on the line for this country against somebody that is literally empowering the moral hollowing out of our nation.

[K]

He had had two tours of duty in Iraq. He came back broken in a dark place. He took accountability. He acknowledges that he was misogynistic was toxicity. And there was verbal intimidation, which I condemn. It happened in a dark period of his life. He's taken accountability. He started an oyster farm. He was on the ocean for years. He found himself. Look, let's give him some grace.

[A]

I mean, Roe, if anyone, has just burned whatever cred they once had over the last two months, and he was on the ocean and he was out there and he shucked an oyster. And, you know, it's just. But I just love it, though. I love it. None of them really knew this guy. He was just put in front of him, in front of them, and they went for it. And congratulations, guys. This is what you got.

[C]

They wanted a redemption story so badly, and they were never going to get it, but they sure tried. You know, if you look at polling from, like, Gallup or YouGov and others, what you see is about 30% of men in this country actually, like the Democratic Party, 70% of us do not. So that is a clear problem when you've got guys like Trump that can put together a really wonderfully diverse coalition to include men and women. So they're trying to find these caricatures of what they think is a man to try to get that 70% to admit that we'll never vote for a Democrat or think that thems are bonkers. And so Graham Platner fit that. And what is so shocking and awful, but I suppose not surprising at the end of the day, if you're only after power, you don't look at principles. You don't look at the caliber of the man. You don't ask him any tough questions. You just use him as a puppet. That's precisely what happened. Well, when you do that, you get a Graham Platner. That blows up in your face. This is exactly what should have happened to the party. I love Watching the fallout, not because I want to dunk on Dems, but because for the rest of it, it's a really important cautionary tale about when you support a party, this is what you get rather than support a candidate.

[A]

Larry, last thought on this. I mean, is this the final, beautiful and perhaps obvious ending to MeToo and believe all women and everything else, is this just the perfect cherry on top to end that nonsense?

[B]

Well, I think so. But of course, people watching this who are not of our lane will say you guys are hypocrites because you supported Donald Trump and many women have made allegations against Donald Trump, yada blah, et cetera. Problem with that is talk about somebody being thoroughly vetted. I mean, when the guy coughs up a hairball, there'll be a story about that. Every time he turns left, he gets sued. So he's been thoroughly looked at two times, three times, arguably. And the American people said, this is our guy. That was not the case with Graham Platner. And finally, there was an article years ago, I believe it was in gq, called A Sober look at Ted Kennedy, probably about a 15 or 20 page article. And it was about all the stuff that he and Christopher Dodd, the senator from Connecticut, was doing with women. I mean, assaulting women, grabbing women, groping women. I mean, after I read it, I needed to take a shower. And when it came out, Ted Kennedy kind of went public and said, you know, I need to do some work. And they reelected him and reelected him and reelected him. But nothing that sorted was ever said about Donald Trump in this article, in the article that I just now mentioned. But the Democrats didn't care because he was their guy. So please, the hypocrisy and the double standards are just smacking you in the face and the selective outrage. This is what's going on right now. Trump, derangement syndrome on steroids. Right.

[A]

And it's worth mentioning the believe all women, and me too. That was their thing, not our thing, so to speak. So it's their standards. We're not that we're there that they're not holding themselves to. Let's wrap up with Iran because it's on, it's off, it's on, it's off. It sounds like it's back on again. And this week it went hot once again a couple days ago. Trump on truth this. And you can see the image right there. This is in retribution for yesterday's bombing of ships by Iran. If it happens again, it will get much worse. That was on Tuesday. And let me throw to A video, quickly. This is Trump talking about what we could potentially do regarding their electric grid and Carg island, which might be the key to this whole thing.

[D]

Look, we're not attacking at the highest level. The highest level are the bridges, which we can knock down. I would say in one day we knock down every single bridge in Iran. There's not a thing they can do about it. They're electric manufacturing facilities. Right. They're electric plants where they make their electricity. We will, if we have to, we'll take them out. I don't want to do that, but if we have to, we'll take them out. They have desalinization plants. We'll take them out if we have to. I hate to do that. That's probably the one I would like not to do least. We attacked Cargill and last night we knocked out a piece. I said, don't touch the oil because maybe we'll take over Carg Island. We may take over Carg Island. It's not a thing they can do

[A]

if about it militarily, there's not much they can do. They can shoot at ships that are trying to get through straight of Hormuz and there are mines there and stuff like that. But Brian, I mean, on one hand, yeah, maybe we should just take Car island and control all the oil. And on the other hand, at some point his bluster has to be met with something.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Because you can't keep saying we'll send your civilization back or we're going to blow up your desalinization plants and then just go to the table the next day.

[F]

Day.

[A]

Putting aside what any of us think about the war or anything else, like just in terms of negotiations.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The fundamental challenge that the President has is that warfare has changed so with drones and some ballistic missiles. But the drone calculus here changes warfare. We've seen this in Ukraine and other places around the world. So what I fear is this idea or this talk of taking Card island or taking whatever, when your adversary can come up with creating drones and basically something the size of a garage. And the Russians and the Chinese were providing you all the parts and the bits and pieces, but you can do it indigenously, which in fact the Iranians can. They have an unending supply of these very, very cheap munitions that they can continue to create. And you can actually have a setback of about 1500 plus miles. So this isn't just something that, hey, if we just knock out everything on the coast, this is going to be a walk in the park. Or if we take Kharg island. We can just control it. They have got a weapon that is very different than what we have seen in previous generations. So that's the part that I think that the. I know that the Pentagon is wrestling with, the White House is wrestling with. How do we extract ourselves from this conflict, but also deal fundamentally with the regime that is jihadist, that will continue to do this. Not just us and not just Israel, but really the whole world. There is a jihadist regime that wants a global caliphate. And that is something that we gotta remember is they have now these little weapons that can do tremendous, tremendous damage.

[A]

Larry, what do you make of just sort of the timing and electoral version of this, which is that if, to me, it seems if Iran has won or if the IRGC has one leverage point, it's like if they can just survive so that this thing gets towards fall. Trump absolutely does not want to be in the midst of a war right before the election for the midterms, because that will be used against him. So in a weird way, they have every incentive to elongate this thing as much as possible because they'd rather have a Democrat in power.

[B]

Obviously, all of this and everything that Brian just now said raises the fundamental issue, what would these mofos do if they had a nuclear bomb? That's why we're here. These are people that put women and children in front of proposed bomb sites because they want to have civilian casualties to make the argument that America is somehow conducting war crimes. These are people that are talking about death to America, death to Israel, death to Western civilization. What would they do if they had a nuclear bomb? George Patton once said, the object of war is not to die for your country, is to get the other poor son of a bitch to die for his. What happens when the other poor son of a bitch wants to die for his? This is the challenge. Not so much drones. This is the. This is an enemy, unlike an enemy we've ever, ever had. So the question is, if Donald Trump is right that they were close to getting a nuclear weapon, what do you do? And a story that was buried because I checked Reuters and AP and LA Times, NY Times. Mark Rudda and Trump have this. Mark Rudda, the United Nations NATO Secretary General, and Trump have this meeting, and after the meeting, Rudda and Trump are in the Oval Office, and Rudda publicly says Iran was close to getting a nuclear weapon and praised Donald Trump for stopping it and saying that the world is safer. That should have been the lead headline all over the place, because much of the country does not believe in this war and does not believe that Iran was, in fact, close to getting a nuclear weapon. The General Secretary of NATO just confirmed Donald Trump's belief that Iran was close to getting a nuke. Therefore, what do you do? And that should have been the lead headline. That would have changed. I think a lot of the way people see about this war, we're in a really intractable problem. You have a regime that's been around for 47 years. They've been planning this for a very long period of time. What do you do? Real simply, I was watching a video. I know I'm going on for a while.

[A]

Go ahead.

[B]

Watching a video of Thomas Sowell years ago, and Thomas Sowell was asked about this, and Thomas said, well, you. You have an enemy that's trying to get a nuclear weapon. You stop them from getting it. And the guy says, well, what would you do? And he said, stop them from getting it.

[A]

Right. As simple as that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

If I can add one of the things I think, Larry, you're speaking to so thoughtfully, and that is the American people aren't into this war because they haven't, I don't think, been fully educated about the threat. So I think that that is the one piece. If I could recommend something to President Trump of the White House, you know, address the nation, declassify intelligence, let people know the severity of the problem, and then if you don't get allies in the Middle east, the Arabs specifically, and the Europeans, then you have a much, much easier argument to say, look, we presented the problem to you, the world. You don't want to join us to do something about it, then we're out. You know, we'll sell what we need to to Israel, or we'll do whatever we need to do on the margins. But we are not going to own this problem after we have just educated everyone on it. Otherwise, the sacrifice needed to win this is so profound. We're talking about recessions. Trump's had global depression. The sacrifice is so profound that you need to have a profound conversation with the American people about the threat itself. And I think that Larry's laying that out very eloquently. And I think that we need more of that from the White House and address to the nation if we really want to get into this thing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's hard for Americans or Westerners to understand there could be such thing as an apocalyptic regime or that there could be mothers who literally want their children to die in jihad, et cetera, et cetera. And the irony, of course, is that Trump is the ultimate negotiator. So if they wanted to, they could probably get a lot of concessions, which is what JD Tried and apparently now has not worked. Let me. We'll finish up with one more from Trump on all this.

[F]

And when they hit, we hit back much harder.

[B]

Are we returning to a full scale military conflict, sir?

[K]

I don't know.

[F]

I don't know. But winning very quickly, it's another way of doing it. We have many ways we can win, but we've already won militarily. They have very little, they have very little left. And they want to make a deal so badly. They called a little while ago. They want to make a deal so badly. I just don't know if they're worthy of making a deal. I don't know that they're going to honor the deal.

[D]

That's the problem.

[B]

If they want to make a deal, why do you think they attacked commercial vessels?

[F]

Because it's sort of crazy, to be honest with you. It's sort of crazy. They're a little bit out of control, but they want to make a deal.

[A]

Larry, in that his language is changing a little bit where he's calling, you know, he kept calling them scum all week, they're crazy, et cetera, et cetera. Do you think he maybe is getting to the point where he's just like, you know, I'll negotiate, that's what I, I do. I'm Donald Trump, part of the deal, but that maybe he is getting now to some other position here? Cuz my position is the same that it's been from the beginning. I basically trust that Trump will do the right thing, and maybe that's naivete or whatever, but I think he basically in this administration deserves our Trump, our trust. Do you think he's. There's something shifting in him right now?

[B]

I think so. You know, we all know that Donald Trump is not somebody who lacks confidence. I think he thought that I would be able to negotiate something with these people that other people would not have been able to do. And so as long as they know that I'm tough and I'm strong, they're going to back down from me. They have not. I remember when the Israelis pulled out of Gaza and they held elections and a woman running on the Hamas slate had had two or three sons who'd been blown up as homicide bombers. And she said, I only regret I did not have more sons that I could contribute tribute to the intifada. She got elected. These are the people we are dealing with during the Iran Iraq war, eight years. The Iranians put plastic keys on the necks of boys as young as 12 years old and asked them to walk across minefields on barefoot to clear the fields for soldiers and for tanks. Tens of thousands of them were blown up. Hundreds of thousands of them were wounded. This is the savagery of the people that were dealing with.

[A]

Brian, tie this all together. I can't. I can't end on that.

[B]

The President, he'll be down there.

[A]

Yeah, come on. We don't end Friday shows that way. Come on, come on.

[C]

The President of the United States understands everything that Larry just laid out. And I don't think enough people in this country, in this world do. So if you were able to make that case, then you call upon the goodwill and the good nature of the world to say, what are we going to do about this? Together? If we can create an alliance to handle this problem together, to solve this together, then we can end a scourge not just for the people in Iran or even in the Middle east, but around the world. This is a demonstration of a peaceful world. We have to deal with this situation to bring global peace future forward, to include the nuclear threat. And I think that that is the good news story, that if you could make that case to the world that the sacrifice is necessary and rally people around that kind of mission, I think we can get there. Because Larry is so eloquently incorrectly saying these are a bunch of savages and awful people, jihadists. And that is what the rest of the world needs to understand. And I don't think that we do, but I think we can get there. And if so, we can rid the world of a terrible, terrible scourge.

[A]

You see, he did it. We could have ended in a deep, dark depression and instead we ended on a positive note.

[K]

Larry.

[A]

Larry, you're in la. We wish you a lot of luck with the zombies and the orcs and the general state of chaos. Brian, always good to see you. No post game show on Fridays. Have a great weekend, everybody.

[B]

Thank you.