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Iran Caves to China & US as Shocking Details of Peace Deal Surprise Trump Skeptics
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Previously on the Ruben. What difference at this point does it make? It doesn't matter why we do it. Who cares? We already see an exodus. The exodus is because of you, Phoenix's friend, Jake. I'll give you a job, man. I'm like Schindler over here. I'll just. If I can do it, take my ring. I got one more. Let's go. All right, everybody. I'm Dave Rubin. This is the Rubin Report. What day is it? You moved the prompter. Is it the 8th? It's the 8th. It's April 8th. I never know what day it is anymore, except if I'm reading the prompter. You've already subscribed and liked and tapped that notification bell. Yes, it is a show for normal people and we are gonna totally illustrate that today. Before I begin, and obviously you know what today's show is, I do want to say that over the last 35 days, what I have tried consistently to do on this show is tell you what's going on, tell you my opinions about it. Say in moments where I don't know what the outcome is going to be, that I don't know what the outcome is going to be. And kind of work through this with you together, right? Nobody knows what's going to happen when bombs are being dropped. From day one, did we know if the Iranian people were going to rise up? Would the Iranian regime just collapse overnight? What would happen with the Strait of Hormuz? All these things, and we did it. I actually, even though I'm the one doing most of the talking during this hour, I view the show as a conversation, which is why I've been referencing the comments so often, because your feedback is important to me and it. And it helps me think through some of the issues. And I often. It's not just the feedback I get from the guys in studio on what we did. Right. Or what we should shift or whatever else. It's what I'm hearing and seeing from you guys comparing and contrasting that to some of the other shows that you watch and everything else. And what I'm more proud of. And then we'll get to it than anything else in the course of this war, which obviously now we're going to be in a basically a two week ceasefire and then we'll see what happens after, is that I tried really hard not to break your brain. And I think a lot of people did that online. They called them the panic ins. These people that think that every time Trump does something they don't want to happen, whether they're on the left or increasingly on the right, that it's World War 3 or it's doomsday or Trump was a liar or a sellout or the rest of it. And I just don't buy that. I don't buy that. The President, I think, as I've said multiple times over the last couple weeks, deserves our trust, has been directionally right about most of these things. And we'll see there aren't simple answers to really complex questions. So I'm very proud of what we've done here. I hope you are too. And I hope that your takeaway over the last month has been, boy, when I tune into Dave, he's telling me what he thinks and he's going to get some things right and some things wrong. But I will, I'll have something that I can then engage in a conversation with other people. Okay, let's leave that there. Reminder, guys, tomorrow night, five o'. Clock. Fortunately, I did not have to come in last night because Trump did not drop a nuke, which I was fairly certain was not going to happen, in which case we would have done a livestream. Tomorrow, five o'.
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
Clock.
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Dave Rubin
It's five o' clock somewhere. We'll be drinking some Copal with you guys. Drinkcopal.com, if you wanna order your bottle, you probably won't get it by tomorrow if you don't have it already, but we're gonna start doing these on Thursdays. I know Tequila Tuesdays has a better RH to it. I just don't want to drink on Tuesdays. Anywho, where are we in the world? Well, it appears that World War 3 has been averted and that there is a ceasefire in place, although it is quite shaky and we will address that too. But before we get into any of that, I want to read a quote from the Art of the Deal by Donald Trump and I sort of referenced this yesterday, but I'd like to read you the full quote that really got me going. I said to the guy, you listen to me, if you do foreclose, I'll personally bring a lawsuit for murder against you and your bank on the grounds that you harassed Mrs. Hill's husband to his death. All of a sudden, the bank officer sounded very nervous and said he'd get right back to me. Sometimes it pays to be a little wild. Donald Trump, the art of the deal. So that right there, as I referenced yesterday, is basically why even in these last couple days, as the rhetoric really got ramped up, right? On Easter Day, Trump drops the F bomb. Then he talks about a civilization that will die. So you could say the crazy, the rhetoric, the language, whatever you want to call it, all being ramped up. The system is feeling shaky. What the hell's going on here? But it's Trump 101. And for the people that don't understand that at this point, especially those that are pundits that do something like I do for a living, if you don't understand that at this point, you need a different job, like, you shouldn't be doing this for a living. So when Trump puts those statements out the F bomb on Easter, civilizational destruction, blah, blah, blah. As I said, do I wish we lived in a world where the President maybe could be a little more presidential and things weren't exactly the level of craziness? Sure, I can accept that. But Donald Trump has a track record of doing the right thing and using language in a way to get everybody to go crazy. So what happens? Donald Trump ramps up the rhetoric, you could say to a 10 to 100, whatever it is, and then, well, hot diggity dog, instead of blowing away a civilization or anything else, we get a ceasefire. I'm shocked. If only these people had bought the book on Kindle. Here is Donald Trump on Truth Social. Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shabazz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munur of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran. And subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran, agreeing to the complete, immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided ceasefire. The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all military objectives and are very far along with the definitive agreement concerning. Concerning long term peace with Iran and peace in the Middle east. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran. And I believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran. But a two week period will allow the agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President and also representing the countries of the Middle east, it is an honor to have this long term problem close to a resolution. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. Trump. So, okay, Donald Trump goes crazy with the rhetoric. And if you remember, on yesterday's show, right before we started the show, we got breaking news. It was quite literally 30 seconds before we started. It was reported that Iran had ended the talks. Right, Ended the talks. But then something happened from the course of, you know, us going live at say 11am to about 7:30pm Eastern. That's when Trump released the truth statement saying that the ceasefire had kicked in, where the Iranians came back to the table, apparently via the Pakistanis. And maybe, just maybe, guys, do you think it had something to do with. Because they realized the clock was ticking and they had no idea what Donald Trump was going to do. And if only, once again, they had just read that one page in the art of the deal from 40 years ago, might they have realized, if nothing else, if they didn't understand anything about his track record over the last 10 years or how he negotiates now? As it pertains to the ceasefire, we'll see. There are already moments where it's breaking down just a bit. Iran is still firing rockets at Israel right now. Apparently they've attacked a Saudi Arabian oil pipeline. We'll get to that in a little bit. So it's not, I'm not sitting here telling you it's perfectly clean or anything else, but remember when Trump was going for a ceasefire, when it pertained to Israel and Gaza, there were moments where you have a little ceasefire, then you get to some talking and eventually all the hostages got out and that war in effect is over. Right. No rockets were firing out of Gaza into Israel during these last 35 days. Like that war actually is over. There is a new border and it is over. So again, this is where Trump deserves because of his track record, not blind faith. He deserves our trust here. Here's a little bit more from breaking911. According to the New York Times, Iran has accepted the ceasefire announced by President Trump, reportedly with approval from the new supreme Leader, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei. New York Times, Iran accepted Pakistan's two week ceasefire proposal following frantic diplomatic efforts by Pakistan and last minute intervention by China, a key ally asking Iran to show flexibility, defuse tensions and amid growing concerns about the economic devastation from damages to critical infrastructure, according to three Iranian officials. They said the ceasefire was approved by the new Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Majtabah Khamenei. So now first off, on the Khomeini part, it's a little unclear if he's what level this guy is functioning at. It sounds like he's in a hospital and may have brain damage. Like, who knows? Like who's fully in charge on that. Okay, so we'll find a bit more on that. The piece that I find is interesting here is that China jumped in at the last second. So as Trump says these crazy freaking things, a civilization is going to die, et cetera, et cetera, China is suddenly going, boy, 80% of the oil that Iran sends out goes to us. And if Trump blows up this whole freaking place, we could be in an awful lot of trouble. So then China exerts pressure on Iran to calm them down. Now let's get to a statement. And by the way, what did I consistently say over the month that I think a lot more of what we were seeing unfold in Iran had to do with China. This was Trump showing China that America is here and we are a force. And you better not take Taiwan, you better not exert power in places we don't want you to, because you never know what we are going to do because occasionally we tweet about civilizational wipeouts. This is a statement from the Islamic public of Tehran. On behalf of the Islamic Republic of Iran, I express gratitude and appreciation for my dear brothers, Prime Minister of Pakistan Sharif and Field Marshal Munir, for their tireless efforts to end the war in the region. In response to the brotherly request of ship Prime Minister Sharif in his tweet, and considering the request by the US for negotiations based on its 15 point proposal, as well as an announcement by POTUS about acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 point proposal as a basis for negotiations. I hereby declare on behalf of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, if attacks against Iran are halted, our powerful armed forces will cease their defensive operations for a period of two weeks. Safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz will be possible via coordination with Iran's armed forces and with due consideration of technical limitations. Saeed Abbas Aragachi Minister of Foreign Affairs, Islamic Republic of Iran so look, here we are. We laid out 15 things we wanted Iran to do. They came back with 10. Then they said negotiations are over, meaning the 15 and the 10, they're not matching up well enough. The hours started passing throughout the day and eventually they came back and said, okay, let's talk. So we don't have a pure match yet, right? Like we don't have a piece of paper that has the pure agreement, but you have a pause, which is what you want in a time of war, so that hopefully if now the Iranians realize we're not messing around, that we are going to get a more an outcome that is more amenable to the desires of the United States. On Polymarket yesterday, somebody won a lot of money because, you know, they were taking a lot of bets throughout the time. When would this thing end and would the Iran ceasefire end by April 7th? And somebody. Well, definitely, lots of people said April 7th was the day. And as you can see, 100% chance. And somebody cashed in on that. Here's a bit more from Trump on what's going on right now. A big day for world peace. Iran wants it to happen. They've had enough. Likewise, so is everyone else. The United States of America will be helping with the traffic buildup in the Strait of Hormuz. There will be lots of positive action. Big money will be made. Iran can now start the reconstruction process. We'll be loading it up with supply of all kinds and just hanging around in order to make sure everything goes well. I feel confident that it will. Just like we are experiencing in the US this could be the golden age of the Middle East. President Donald J. Trump Let me reference the golden age of the Middle east thing, because one of the things that I've consistently said throughout all of this is, however, it was going to end once Iran was banged up enough and they realized that the conventional warfare was not going to destroy all their neighbors. And then they started fighting, putting aside Israel even. They're firing into all the Gulf states and Arab countries and everything else. All of those countries now pointing at Israel going, boy, you did kind of defend us, and you took a lot of the heat and everything else. Boy, you're not firing rockets into our backyard. So alliances are shifting. And when he talks about a golden age of peace, here is my guess right now, consistent with everything else I've said for the last four weeks, we're going to see peace deals signed before the midterms. My guess is summertime around ouraround July 4th, we will see a bunch of Middle east peace deals signed, and that will be partly the fruits of incapacitating Iran and forcing it to come to the negotiation table. Again, we don't know exactly what the final piece of paper will look like. Here's a bit more from Trump. The United States will work closely with Iran, which we have determined has gone through what will be a very productive regime change. There's new people in charge. There will be no enrichment of uranium. And the United States will, working with Iran, dig up and remove all of the deeply buried B2 bombers nuclear dust. It is now and has been under very exacting satellite surveillance. That's from Space Force. Nothing has been touched from the date of the attack. We are and will be talking tariff and sanctions relief with Iran. Many of the 15 points have already been agreed. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So Trump is saying we're not there on all 15 points. We're gonna get some of the nuke stuff out. If they decide to have a more friend, like give up exporting terror and death to us as your prime policy of your nation. If you give that up now, third tier Ayatollah, then there could be an opportunity for all sorts of good things to happen. But all sorts of good things only happen because of peace through strength, because of carrot and stick. It doesn't happen because you just say don't or no, which is obviously, as you know, what Joe Biden and what Kamala Harris were doing, or just by giving them cash, which is what Barack Obama was doing. Here's Jesse Waters on a bit more of how Trump got Iran to come around on a lot of this.
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Jesse Watters
Trump just got Iran to cry uncle. They've been calling him crazy for making threats, but guess the threats worked. The strait's on its way to being opened and Iran's promising to stop firing missiles and drones. The next 24 hours will be the test if oil tankers start sailing through. We're on our way to officially ending this and hitting the President's six week time frame. If they play games, back to bridge and power plant day, the mullahs should know better. Their economy is in a depression. Heavy industry like steel, petrochemicals and their military industrial complex have been obliterated. People were already taking to the streets during the last economic crisis and now it's 10 times worse. The regime was backed into a corner and the president believed that sending in soldiers to open up the strait and seize Kharg wouldn't be wise.
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Dave Rubin
Okay, so that's a pretty sober, clear analysis of what's going on here. Their economy is a mess right now. Their leadership is destroyed. Now, they didn't get it was regime change, right? It is a new regime in that all of the old regime is dead. So the question ultimately will be, as time goes on, will these new guys play ball with the United States? Will they realize, boy, we would like some reconstruction of our country, maybe if we just stop financing terror and you know, pull back some money from Hezbollah, which has taken over Lebanon as one simple example, like maybe more countries will work with us and we can get on board the United States vision of the world, which is exactly what Donald Trump laid out a month into this presidency over a year ago when he went to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Now, interestingly, it's not going to go easy, right? So like again, I'm not a panic in one of these. I love that phrase, Pannikins, these people, everything is World War iii. If anyone does anything I don't like, it's World War iii. Thermonuclear World War iii. I'm not a panic and I'm a realist, actually. And what we have right now are two pieces of paper that aren't quite matching up. Cuz you got 10 points on one side, 15 points on one side, you got two, two weeks to work it out. However, Iran is still firing rockets. This is from the Jerusalem Post this morning. Siren sound across Israel as Iran launches missile barrage despite ceasefire agreement. There's some question as to how this is happening. Could some of this had already, like, had they already set timers on things and everything else. My guess is maybe we get a few more throughout the day and then hopefully that stops and we have two weeks of calm while we try to figure out what's going on here. Here is J.D. vance, who as you know, he spent the last couple days in Hungary, in essence, campaigning for Viktor Orban. And we'll see how that election shakes out next week. But here he is talking about the ceasefire.
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J.D. Vance
The President has told us not to use those tools. He's told us to come to the negotiating table. But if the Iranians don't do the exact same thing, they're going to find out that the President of the United States is not one to mess around. He's impatient. He's impatient to make progress. He has told us to negotiate in good faith and I think if they negotiate in good faith, we will be able to find a deal. But that's a big if. And ultimately it's up to the Iranians how they negotiate. I hope they make the right decision.
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Dave Rubin
That's pretty good, J.D. right like again, he's using Trump's sort of erraticness as a pressure point. Trump's impatient. Well, we all kind of know that Trump uses crazy language. Trump tweets out wacky things. But if you guys act in good faith, you might get there. Connor, could you pull up the original quote from Trump? I've already the deal he threatened. Do you see what he did here? He said to the lawyer, I'll personally bring a lawsuit for murder against you and the bank because you harassed Ms. Hill's husband to his death. So this is consistent. You really need to understand this. And it's why I show you all the old clips of Trump all the time. Why was I showing you 1981 clips of Trump? Grainy old video of Trump, the 1987 clips, the Oprah clips, the Phil Donahue clips of Trump. Why do I show you all of those? Which, by the way, when I interviewed Trump years ago, I brought that up that he used to go on all these shows whenever they would love him. And he loved that question. Cuz he likeshe has an ego, obviously. And he likes that people acknowledge that he's been consistent on things over the years. So if you just looked at his tactics instead of like, it's so weird how so many people on the right this kind of isolationist. Right. They were so caught up in all of his words. Like, that's what the lefties do. And you guys all fell for it. It is quite bizarre to me. But we'll get to some of the mainstream media response to all of this, which of course was hypocritical, psychotic, demented, twisted, insert adjective of choice. We'll do that in just a second. But first, Outskill. You've probably heard Nvidia's Jensen Huang say that AI may already be approaching AGI. And his point is simple. These systems are getting incredibly versatile and powerful. That's why I want to tell you about Outskill. Outskill is an AI education platform that helps you actually use AI in your work. They've already reached over 10 million people worldwide. Right now, they're offering a completely free two day AI mastermind event that's happening this weekend. In just 16 hours, you'll learn how to build AI agents, automate your workflows, connect tools like Google Sheets and Notion, and use AI to save time and increase your earning potential. They're also including over $5,000 worth of bonuses, plus a free AI survival hackbook just for signing up. And with a 4.9 rating on Trustpilot, it's clear a Lot of people are getting value from this. If you want to check it out, it's free. Just use the L in the description or scan the QR code right over there. All right, so we didn't get World War Three, you know, and by the way, when I interviewed Bill O'Reilly yesterday afternoon, which we put up an hour before Trump announced all this, I said, what is your most likely outcome of tonight of the APM deadline? And he said, negotiations, meaning that there will be an extension. And he was right. So there are people that are paying attention to reality and trying to report it as such. Now, sadly, those people are not on mainstream media. We will now jump over to the televised mental institution known as Ms. Now. Wow. I did it right. Here's this guy, Lawrence o'. Donnell. He's just like a generic clown who, if he even cared about any of the things that he purports to believe in, would retire and give that job to a black lesbian. But nonetheless, here he is, and he's very upset about the peace deal.
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Lawrence O'Donnell
It could not be more tragically clear now that a whole civilization has already died. The whole civilization, beginning with the model of the British Parliament, leading to the first independent American government formed under the Articles of Confederation, followed by the Constitution that wrote the presidency into existence, and nearly 250 years of the American presidency, All of that, that whole civilization forming the presidency, died with the elevation of Donald Trump to the presidency a second time.
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Dave Rubin
I feel bad for people that watch that stuff, you know, like, is someone watching that stuff? Like, my God, my God, it's real. It's real. It's not real, it's fake. It's performative. It's nonsense. The headline behind him, now, this is after the ceasefire. So think about what's going on here. All of these people, Donald Trump's crazy civilizational ruin, nuclear war is about to happen. That's what everybody was doing yesterday, right? They're all going bananas about this on MSNBC. All these crazy people. CNN's doing it. The right wing pundits, you know, these Tucker types, they're all going crazy about this. Then we get a deal. And then their response is the headline behind him, Trump retreats again. So you see the little trap there. If Trump bombs the hell out of Iran, he's a bad guy and a genocidal maniac. And if he doesn't, if he gets us closer to a peace deal, he's retreating again. And who's it a defeat for? It's a defeat for the 250 years of America it's completely, completely mind numbingly absurd. Although equally as mind numbingly absurd as what they're doing over on cnn. Here is Scott Jennings shutting down Abby Phillips, who is not that bright.
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Scott Jennings
My point is the threats from Trump
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
and some of the stuff that
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Scott Jennings
bomb their desalination plants to bomb them out of their civilization off the face of the earth. How are those not empty threats?
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
Well, it looks like it brought them to the table tonight and got them in a place where they would agree to a ceasefire. I mean, I'll give you a counter argument to all these other positions, which
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Scott Jennings
is that is the president to reality.
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
We have a ceasefire, Amy, do we not?
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Dave Rubin
I can't believe that lady has a job. It's incredible. Lady. The threats, the threats did not come to pass. That's the point. He used them as a threat. Do I have to read the freaking quote from Art of the Deal again? Like Abby, Phillip read Art of the Deal tonight. I know you can read off a teleprompter, so I'm guessing you could read a book or just get the audiobook. Did Trump read the audiobook himself? Can we find out? That would be probably not. Who read the audiobook of Art of the Deal? That would just be kind of funny if Trump read it himself. But the point is, lady, it did work. He used rhetoric to scare them. So at around 11am yesterday, they were saying, the deal is off, we're not talking. And by five, six o' clock they were talking and by seven o' clock there was a deal in place. Now, we don't know what will happen with the deal, I'll grant you that. But to say it's so dumb to say they're empty threats. Would your preference be that Trump had just said all these crazy things? Like, think about it the other way. So the other version of it would be Trump would say these crazy things and then drop a nuke on Iran. Would you be then crediting him? Well, he said all this crazy shit. He said all this crazy stuff and then he dropped the nuke. So that's Trump. There's Trump for you. Like, come on, lady. Here's one more.
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Scott Jennings
The same table that we have tonight is the table that existed yesterday. In large part and fundamentally, the only thing that has been agreed to is that Iran will continue to control the Strait of Hormuz and will allow ships to go through on their control. That is the only thing that has been agreed to.
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
The Strait is going to be reopened and we're going to negotiate about the rest. Beyond that, we don't really know much of anything. But I will tell you, yesterday Iran was saying, we're cutting off, you know, talks. We're not going to continue the talks. The President uses some extreme language and all of a sudden, voila, tonight we have a ceasefire for two weeks. Why can't we just say, you know what? Maybe we have achieved military objectives, Maybe we have taken down their military and their ability to export terror. Maybe we have decimated their missiles. Maybe we've buried the nuclear material and maybe we've got two ways to make
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Dave Rubin
the world a safer place. Did we ever send him? Weren't we gonna send him a gift? Weren't we gonna send him a box of flowers or a box of chocolates or some flowers or it's like to have to put up with these people. Of course he's right. I mean, he's illustrating exactly what I just said right here. But for Abby to say the only thing that has happened now is that the Strait of Hormuz has reopened is completely absurd. The political leadership was taken out. The second tier was taken out. The Navy is gone. Their air force is gone. Overnight, they lost control of their airspace. They have been shown in many ways to be a Piper Tiger now. Yes. Is it true that they launched rockets that are a pain in the ass and they're launching cluster munitions which are designed which for people that care about war crimes, every single one of them is a war crime because it's designed to kill as many people and destroy as much civilian infrastructure as possible. But the idea that nothing happened here, whoever now is in charge of Iran, do you think they are going to be more or less inclined to work with the United States going, boy, you know, I got a promotion real quick here. There was this month long thing everybody know is dead. I'm in charge now. Maybe I'll try it a different way and maybe they will realize that you don't fund terror everywhere, you don't race to a nuclear bomb, etc. Etc. So it's just, the only thing is that the strait is open like, Abby, you are just terrible. Speaking of terrible, CNN also is completely butchering how all of this got laid out. Listen to this from Trump. This is from this morning. The alleged statement put out by CNN World News is a fraud, as CNN well knows. The false statement was linked to a fake news site from Nigeria and of course immediately picked up by CNN and blared out as a legitimate headline. The official statement by Iran was just released and post on Truth Below. Authorities are looking to determine whether or not a crime was committed on the issuance of of the fake CNN world statement? Or was it a sick rogue player? CNN is being ordered to immediately withdraw the statement with full apologies as their usual terrible reporting results of the investigation will be announced in the near future. President DONALD J. Trump so apparently CNN put out some sort of statement as it related to the like official Iranian government position that Trump is saying is completely false. I suspect that we are going to see that. Don't Donald Trump is right about that. We'll have a bit more on the Pannequins in just a second. But first, Tax Network usa, do you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns? No matter how it started, the problem's only going to get worse. Penalties grow, interest adds up. And the IRS is already taking action through wage garnishments, bank levies and more. That's where Tax Network USA can help. With over 15 years of experience, they specialize in resolving back taxes and unfiled returns. They've handled thousands of cases and resolved over 1 billion in tax debt nationwide. Right now, they're offering a free investigation call with the IRS to review your situation and create a clear path to get you back on track. Don't wait for another IRS notice or worse. Call 866-685-6604. That's 866-685-6604 or visit tnusa.com Dave all right, so let's just do a little bit more on the Pannequin situation and this time from the right, right. So it's easy to just be like, okay, msnbc, they're never going, it's Trump derangement syndrome. Trump says something, you're obviously going to take the opposite position. Abby Phillips, the CNN panels all obvious to do one of the bigger issues that's been happening in the online world is that out of the Tucker, sadly, Megyn Kelly space has been this series of people that have been telling you everything Trump does, that Trump's not in charge, he doesn't know what he's doing, he's being manipulated, that it's gonna lead to World War Three. It's just a series of crazy misadventures. And then every time he does something they like, they say, well, he woke up. And then the next day he does something they don't like and they go, oh, he's being manipulated. Oh, he doesn't know what he's doing. Oh, he has dementia. It's completely and profoundly, profoundly absurd. Here is Scott Jennings calling out the podcast crew for attacking Trump over Iran.
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
Well, look, they're isolationists, and he's not. He never has been. There's been a lot of people in that wing of our politics that wanted to ascribe or attach their views to him. He just never has been. He wasn't in his first term. He hasn't been in his second term. He's been a hawk on Iran his entire adult life. And I see some of these people now saying, gee whiz, we had no idea Donald Trump hated Iran and thought they shouldn't have a nuclear weapon. I mean, take the car key out of your ear for goodness sakes, like this. This has literally been his position since he was, like, 30 years old when the regime took over. So I. I don't know what they've been listening to until now, other than this. They wanted always to try to get him to bend to their will. And what they don't understand about Trump is that people bend to his. He's the head of the party and he runs the country, not the podcast.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah, like, yeah, it's not much more complex than that. All of these people that were running around telling you Trump was manipulated, Trump was lied to. It's just for clicks. Then he does something they like and they love him again, and then the next day, he does something they don't like. Look, there are going to be things that Trump does that I like or don't like and everything else, but if he does something I don't like, it's not because I think he's being manipulated. He has access to. He's the President of the freaking United States. He has access to information I don't like. I may not see the world exactly as he sees it at every given moment, but all of these people that wanted to make it seem, even just in the last 24 hours, there was a huge amount of people that thought that we were going to drop nukes all over Iran. And it's like if you just had paid attention to any of the last 40 years, you would know that. But Scott does make the broader point, which, again, I've made many times over the last 30 days, which is Trump never was a pure isolationist. He was America was and is America first, not America alone. And he's always believed in peace through strength. And we've shown you the long track record on Iran. So for Trump to basically be doing what he said he is going to do and then be called a liar or an idiot or a buffoon because of it by people on the right, we expect it from people on the left, but people on the right is a bit much. Let me show you some versions of this. Now, these are lefties that I'm gonna show. Well, it's a mix, actually, so watch this. So first is this guy Cigar and Jetty. He's on the show Breaking Points. It's a lefty podcast, but I wanna show you something here. He says this is before. Before the ceasefire. It is now a time for choosing the era of trying to be reasonable. Voice inside is over. Anyone with an ounce of integrity should follow the lead of Joe Kent and resign with honor or take immediate public steps to forestall disaster. If you do not, we will not forget. Then what happened? The ceasefire gets announced. And what did he write? Taco Tuesday. It is pending Iranian approval. And Taco stands for Trump always chickens out. So you must understand this. This is a perfect example of the sort of mnemonic trick that they are doing and one of the conditions of Trump derangement syndrome. When they thought Trump was going to do something crazy, they were demanding that other principled people step away, like Joe Kent. Joe Kent, who clearly was a leaker, who just seemingly something is not right in that space. But Joe Kent can do whatever he wants but be principled like Joe Kent. Work for the guy. And then the day you quit, start going on podcasts, bashing him. That's the principled stands according to Cigar. But then when Trump gets a ceasefire, it's Trump chickens out. So you see, they win no matter what. Nick Fuentes, the little gay leader of the weirdos Incel crew online, wrote, taco Trump chickens out. Right? So you see, what do you mean, Nick? You didn't want war, right? You've been screaming, america first, no wars. Trump promised us no wars. Now we get a ceasefire and hopefully we'll have a more peaceful world. And it's still Trump chickens out. Because it doesn't matter if you're right or on the left in this case, you're all doing the same thing. Here's Megyn Kelly with the sky is falling because of the some of Trump's tweets.
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Megyn Kelly
3D. Yes. Shut up. Shut up about that. You don't threaten to wipe out an entire civilization. We're talking about civilians just casually in a social media post. This is wrong. It's wrong. He should not be doing it. I don't care that it's a negotiate. His negotiation tactic is to kill an entire country full of civilians, men, women and children. An American president so that the Strait of Hormuz will be opened. It's just wrong. It's not hard to say it. It's not hard to recognize it. I wish he would stop doing this. Like he can't negotiate without doing this. What does that say about him? What does that say about the. The position that our country is in right now in these negotiations?
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Dave Rubin
God, it really is sad what's happened to her. So shrill and angry and everything else. He didn't kill any civilians. He threatened to. That was the negotiating point. Connor, could you put up the art of the deal quote again? Could we do this one more time? Because 40 years ago he wrote this book. I said to the guy, you listen to me, if you do foreclose, I'll personally bring a lawsuit for murder against you and your bank on the grounds that you harassed Mrs. Hill's husband to death. All of a sudden, the bank officer sounded very nervous and said he'd get right back to me. Sometimes it pays to be a little wild. So is there some alternate universe if we're in a simulation, we're in this universe here. Is there some side universe where we would all like the President to speak exactly how we would like him to speak and do all of the things we would like him to do, do when we would like him to do them and all of those things? I suppose that universe exists, but it's not this universe. So Trump is the guy who has fought the machine more than anyone else. Megan, I think you're still a Trump supporter, I suppose, although it's a little hard to tell what you are these days. It's just wherever the clicks are, I suppose. But at the end of the day, do you just not understand what he is doing here? So the anger and the shrillness and everything else, it's like stop. Like actually just stop. And here's Tucker Carlson who is very upset that Trump was going after Islam.
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Tucker Carlson
Who do you think you are? You're tweeting out the F word on Easter morning. So obviously you're mocking the religion of Iran. Okay, if you seek a religious war, that's a good idea. But by the way, no decent person mocks other people's religions. You may have a problem with the theology, but it's not just mockery of Islam. And no president should mock Islam. That's not your job. This is not a theocracy. We don't go to war with other theocracies to find out which theocracy is more effective. We are not.
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Dave Rubin
It's hard to listen to him, too. I mean, I love that they seem to be shutting the lights off in the studio as if he's in a bunker at the end. This is a guy who hates Christian Zionists more than anyone else, who's relentlessly going after Protestants. Now who goes after Jews? It's not just Israel. He goes after Jews. He wants Jews to get DNA tests in Israel. So spare me, Tucker, please, please. But again, you were the one back in May thermonuclear World War 3, right? Like, it's completely absurd. You guys have all. And it's not a coincidence, by the way, that Megan and Tucker have become the leaders of this thing because they came from the mainstream world and what they know are ratings more than anything else. They came from a place of ratings. Say whatever you can for ratings and the online world. Something different was brewing here for a long time. I'm very proud that I was part of it right at the beginning. And it was better. It was better. I still try to do something a little bit better. They've decided to use the same tactics of do anything for ratings in the new space. And that's why the online space in some sense is probably just as toxic, if not actually more than the mainstream space at this point. Trump, however, just does what he thinks is right consistently, over and over again. Again, whether I agree with it or not, that's what he does here. From breaking 911, Trump blasts Tucker in a phone call with the New York Post. Tucker's a low IQ person that has absolutely no idea what's going on. The President said he calls me all the time. I don't respond to his calls. I don't deal with him. I like dealing with smart people, not fools. It is worth noting that Tucker's son works in JD's office. He's a PR, I think he's in PR, public relations, whatever, in JD's office. And it's like Tucker is now the number one enemy on the right in America to Donald Trump, and his son works in the Vice President's office. Like no One's guilty by their father's sins. I'm not even saying he's doing anything nefarious, but conversations are had. People have lunch, they go for coffee. Information is heard. Do you think that's getting to his dad? It's just worth putting a pin in that, knowing it, it. Allow me. Can I quote myself on the show today? Allow me to quote myself. I put this up on Twitter last night, and I think it largely explains where I think we need. Where we've been and I think where we need to go from here. I wrote which Panican wants to hand me my I told you so award. Trump has been running the same negotiation playbook forever. Pressure, escalation, chaos, then leverage a deal. We've watched it happen time and again. This wasn't complicated. It was basic pattern recognition. While some people were panicking, others were paying attention. Now we move to phase two. Iran is largely neutralized. The Strait is reopening. The war is de escalating. Markets are already reacting. This is not a small win. It's a global reset. This forces movement everywhere else. Russia and Ukraine get pulled closer to real negotiation. China has to think twice about Taiwan when the US Just proved it'll apply overwhelming pressure when it matters. And for time, the first, first time in decades, there's a real path to stepping back from endless Middle east entanglements. Look at the region. It's no longer just Israel. You're seeing alignment across countries that historically were nowhere near each other. The world is safer today than it was yesterday, and it's about to get even safer over the next few months as this locks in. And yes, let's be very clear about this. This happened because of Donald Trump. Not the pundits, not the podcasters, not the panic merchants. Trump. Now comes the real opportunity. Opportunity. With global stability improving, we can finally refocus inward at full speed. Immigration, housing, affordability, healthcare, infrastructure, AI, Rebuilding American strength where it actually matters. We're entering a new American era. Economically, technologically, and yes, even in space exploration. This is what the start of a new frontier feels like. So here's the Put your phone down, go build something. Start a family, create. Get outside, do something real. Stop listening to the panic. And onward. So, look, I think you can see that's consistent with what my messaging here is. All the time, all the time. Again, we don't know what will happen over the next two weeks. We don't know what will happen on day 15. But we are closer to something more peaceful. And a message has been sent to China and There is an understanding now that America will do things when it needs to. NATO is realizing, boy, we can't rely on the US to endlessly defend us and endlessly foot the bill while we don't help. So something real has happened here and you didn't have to be a genius to see it, which is why I wrote pattern recognition. You just had to recognize the patterns. And if you see those patterns, then I think you will be less hysterical and panicked all the time. And then, by the way, we can start acknowledging that there are good things happening in America. Let me just quickly because, because it's, I would say, ancillarily related to all of this mention one thing that's happening right here in Florida happened yesterday. This is from Meet the press. Ron DeSantis signs Florida law to label groups as terrorists and expel student supporters. So we are moving on. The Muslim Brotherhood here in Florida, Texas has done a version of it. We've done a version of it federally, but it exempted a few of the countries that the Muslim Brotherhood's involved in. But we are moving on some things and you have an opportunity to look live in a place that is more congruent with your life. So to wrap up today's show, our final segment, I want to talk a bit about honor and loyalty because it seems to me those are the two things that maybe have been shredded more than anything else at scale in America right now. How many people in the public sphere are acting with honor? That's an open ended question for you. And how many people are acting with integrity? Again, open ended question for you. So now I want to show you a couple videos here. This one we showed you, this is from about six weeks ago, right when the war started. J.D. vance, the vice President, was asked about his differences with Trump on Iran. Take a look.
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
Mr. Vice President, the President said earlier
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Dave Rubin
this week that you had a philosophical difference than him, that you were less
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Connor (Producer/Assistant)
enthusiastic on the onset of this war.
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Dave Rubin
Is that true? And what is your opinion of how
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J.D. Vance
it's to be going? Well, I think you guys, again, I answered this question earlier. I'm sorry about that. Taylor. You know, you asked this question earlier. When you're thinking about a major decision like this, the way the President makes these decisions is he talks to a lot of people. Obviously we're thinking about various ins and outs, various options, what this looks like, how to accomplish our goals, what our goals should be. And I think it's important for the
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Dave Rubin
President of the United States to be
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J.D. Vance
able to have that conversation with his team. Without his team then running their mouth to the American media. So part of what makes our national security team so cohesive is that we all trust each other and we all have a very free exchange of ideas. I'd like to keep that going.
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Dave Rubin
Thank you, guys. Okay, so honor and integrity, that's what we're talking about right now. So there's Trump, there's JD Saying, hey, we have some differences. We're going to talk it out. That's how you come to agreement. That's not bending the knee and bowing. That's. And by the way, we all know that's true, right? We all know. Everyone has said this. Everyone that has worked with Trump over the years has said he likes listening to people, he likes delegating. He's open. My little exchanges with him, even off camera, have been, this is a guy who listens and is curious, et cetera, et cetera. So now I want to show you a video from a month ago. JD Vance, past skepticism of foreign adventurism. Are you completely on board with the current war in Iran?
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J.D. Vance
So I like fraud Czar. It's certainly what we're going to do. And look, we have to do it. As the President said, this is a problem that has festered in this country for far too long, and far too few people have actually wanted to do anything about it. That's what makes this administration different, is that we actually tackle the problems the American people have been confronting. So I'm very happy about it. And look, I think that I know what you're trying to do, Phil. You're trying to drive a wedge between. Between members of the administration, between me and the President. What the president said consistently going back to 2015, and I agreed with him, is that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon. We have taken this military action under the President's leadership. I think all of us, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, should pray for success and pray for the safety of our troops. That's the approach that I've taken. Make it as successful as possible.
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Dave Rubin
Okay, so that's a month ago, JD what he's sort of saying, but not saying there is. He's kind of saying, maybe I wouldn't have done it this way, but I'm the vice president, President right now, not the president. Now, maybe he will be president one day, but he's acting with honor and integrity. The boss is sitting right there, and he's saying, that's the guy at the desk. And I will tell him what I think. That's been made very, very clear over the last month that everyone has been doing that. And then he's going to make the decision. So now I want to. This is the last clip we'll show you, and then we're going to end with a couple quotes. But this is from yesterday. JD is in Hungary right now, as I mentioned earlier, and here he is talking about the black pillars. And this is really in reference to the podcasters, some of whom I've mentioned here. It's largely about them who want, every time Trump does something they don't like, for you to go crazy and be depressed and think all hell's breaking loose and America's done and everything else. And the more that you think that, the more it will break the right. And when the right is broken, congratulations. Democrats win midterms Trump Winter. Trump's impeached Democrat president coming in 2028. And the thing is basically over. Listen to this.
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J.D. Vance
I think a lot of people, this is particularly true in the United States of America. If they see something that the administration does they don't like, they say, oh, that's not what we voted for. We're going to check out of politics. No, no, no, no. That's the exact wrong response. If we do something you don't like, the response should be to get more involved, to make your voice heard and to try to push things in the direction that you want them to be pushed. Our civilization was not built overnight. It's not going to be saved overnight. And so what I'd encourage you to do is stay involved, be patient, and don't let disappointment turn to checking out of the system entirely. There's way too much of that, I would say, in the Anglo system and the American system, there's way too much. You know, I didn't like this thing that the vice president said, or I didn't like this thing that the president did, and I'm going to completely check out. We call that black pilling in the United States of America. And blackpilling is how you give power to the forces that are trying to destroy what our ancestors built.
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Dave Rubin
And that's completely right. That is completely right. Trump may not be perfect. I don't know how this whole thing will shake out and all of that stuff. Yeah, okay. But the more if every time he does something that you don't like, he's evil, he's compromised, he was conned into it, or so I'm going to try to destroy him. Or the other version of it, which is More so what JD's referencing there. I'm Just going to check out of the system altogether. Well, congratulations. You've just given oxygen to the people that are really, really, really the bad guys. So all of us, it's been a wacky month of debate over this thing. Let's try to come together a little bit. You know, why is it, why is it, Tucker Carlson, if you're watching today, why is it that every single one of your shows is anti Trump and anti America? Why is it that you haven't done one show on the SAVE Act? Why haven't you done one show on the positive things that Trump has done with deportations and with trade, et cetera, et cetera? Why are you interested in blackpilling? Might be worth thinking about. I thought we'd end with a. We have two quotes here, right? We have two. Yeah, two quotes here. Let's start with Marcus Aurelius. We haven't done much of him lately. Never esteem anything as of advantage to you that will make you break your word or lose your self respect. I think that's really important right now. It's really, really important right now. Like if you have honor and you have integrity and people know that you believe what you believe and it doesn't mean you won't get things wrong. I get things wrong all the time. But then over time, that's how you can build a society that will be functional and sane. And on the margin some weird things are going to happen, but most of us will be in on it together. And dare I go from Marcus Aurelius to Donald Trump? I value loyalty above almost everything else. A lot of respectable people talk integrity but have no loyalty. Results over talk loyalty over posturing, and that's it. Donald Trump likes results. So you might not like his tactics, you might be shrill Megyn Kelly screaming about his tactics, but the results of what he has done in the face of all of these things is rather remarkable. So if, again, if there's some alternate universe where a better buttoned up, nicer, less orange guy is out there just being nice to everybody and saying nice things and you always know what he's thinking and that's gonna work. If that alternate world exists, then show me that world. Until then, we live in this world and you could do what you can on the margins to make it a little better with a little honor and a little integrity. I'm calling a nine. Nine. I'm calling a nine. Nine. And I'm taking the rest of the day off. Just kidding. Post Game Show 30 seconds. RubenReport Locals.com Thanks.