Anderson Cooper Stunned by Gavin Newsom Blaming Locals for Fire Problems

Summary

The Rubin Report: Anderson Cooper Stunned by Gavin Newsom Blaming Locals for Fire Problems

Host: Dave Rubin
Guest: Dr. Drew Pinsky
Release Date: January 9, 2025

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1. Introduction and Context

In this episode of The Rubin Report, host Dave Rubin delves into the devastating wildfires ravaging Los Angeles County, focusing on the mismanagement and poor governance that have exacerbated the crisis. Rubin is joined by Dr. Drew Pinsky, a native Californian from Pasadena, to discuss the immediate impacts of the fires and the broader systemic issues contributing to the disaster.

Key Points:

• Over 2,000 homes and businesses damaged or destroyed.
• At least five fatalities in the Eaton and Palisades fires.
• Dr. Drew Pinsky joins the discussion live from Pasadena, which remains relatively safe but is on high alert.

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2. Fires in LA County: Impact and Challenges

The episode provides a grim overview of the recent wildfires, highlighting the extensive damage and the challenges faced by firefighters battling the blazes under extreme conditions.

Notable Quote:

Dr. Drew Pinsky [03:31]: "77 years old. Man, I can't walk up these hills. It's like Mount Everest here. It's like, you know, pretty steep."

Key Points:

• Pasadena and Pacific Palisades have been severely affected, with the latter largely destroyed.
• Extreme wind speeds (85-100 mph) have hindered firefighting efforts, making aerial support like helicopters and planes ineffective.
• Firebreaks and fuel management, once prevalent in Southern California, have been abandoned, contributing to the rapid spread of fires.
• Insurance companies have pulled out of areas like the Palisades, and the Fair Plan is on the brink of bankruptcy, complicating rebuilding efforts.

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3. Critique of Gavin Newsom's Leadership and Policies

Rubin and Pinsky critique Governor Gavin Newsom's handling of the wildfire crisis, attributing poor outcomes to his administration's policies and governance failures.

Notable Quotes:

Dave Rubin [04:41]: "There's no water in the Palisades. There's no water coming out of the fire hydrants. This is an absolute mismanagement by the city."

Dr. Drew Pinsky [09:13]: "If they are actually interested in reducing CO2 emissions, their number one job should be managing fires in Southern California."

Key Points:

• Water Management Failures: Fire hydrants ran dry, severely limiting firefighting capabilities.
• Regulatory Obstacles: Environmental laws and restrictions prevent effective forest management and firefighting strategies.
• Historical Neglect: Abandonment of firebreaks and fuel management practices that were effective decades ago.
• Financial Mismanagement: Billions spent on unrelated projects like over-budget rail systems instead of addressing immediate wildfire threats.

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4. Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in the LA Fire Department

The conversation shifts to the impact of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives on the effectiveness of the Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD).

Notable Quotes:

Dr. Drew Pinsky [38:13]: "If you shifted the focus to 30 to 40 year old males of Irish and Italian descent, and we only selected for 30 to 40 year old males of Irish and Italian descent... you would start accepting people in order to meet that mandate that we would otherwise not have accepted."

Dave Rubin [43:37]: "What does any of this have to do with putting out fires?"

Key Points:

• High Salaries for Equity Chiefs: Positions like Kristen Crowley, LAFD's first LGBTQ Fire Chief, earn significantly high salaries, raising questions about priorities.
• Perceived Competence Issues: Rubin and Pinsky argue that DEI mandates may compromise the quality and effectiveness of firefighting personnel.
• Recruitment Practices: Efforts to increase diversity may lead to lower hiring standards, impacting the department's ability to respond efficiently to emergencies.

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5. Criticism of Mayor Karen Bass

Rubin and Pinsky heavily criticize Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass for her perceived incompetence and lack of presence during the wildfire crisis.

Notable Quotes:

Dave Rubin [33:14]: "Madam Mayor, have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today who are dealing with this disaster?"

Dr. Drew Pinsky [32:32]: "She's been an activist most of her life. She's been focused on ideology most of her life. We need people that are... engineers to solve problems."

Key Points:

• Absence During Crisis: Bass was reportedly in Ghana during the outbreak of the wildfires, leading to accusations of negligence.
• Policy Failures: Criticism of Bass's policies, which Rubin and Pinsky argue have weakened the city's emergency response capabilities.
• Public Apologies: Bass's lack of a substantive apology or actionable response heightens the perception of her ineffectiveness.

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6. Firefighter COVID Vaccine Mandate and Terminations

The episode addresses the contentious issue of COVID-19 vaccine mandates within the LAFD, highlighting the termination of firefighters who refused vaccination without exemptions.

Notable Quote:

Dave Rubin [45:06]: "And if you think that leads us to this point here? Did I give you something there?"

Key Points:

• Mass Terminations: 113 firefighters suspended without pay for defying the vaccine mandate.
• Impact on Firefighting Workforce: The policy has significantly reduced the number of active firefighters, exacerbating the department's ability to manage ongoing fires.
• Legal and Social Repercussions: Potential legal actions and community backlash against the mandate and resultant workforce reductions.

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7. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In closing, Rubin and Pinsky reiterate the urgent need for competent governance and effective policies to address the ongoing wildfire crisis in Los Angeles. They emphasize that mismanagement, compounded by DEI policies and leadership failures, has left the region vulnerable to natural disasters.

Notable Quotes:

Dr. Drew Pinsky [49:56]: "We are destroying it. And how much further we going to let this go?"

Dave Rubin [50:21]: "Love ya. Love Susan. Stay safe. And if obviously you got a room here. Anytime, my friend."

Key Points:

• Call for Leadership Change: Strong advocacy for replacing current leadership with competent individuals focused on pragmatic solutions.
• Hope for Rebuilding: Despite the devastation, Rubin and Pinsky express a commitment to fighting for California's restoration and preservation.
• Future Episodes: Teasers for upcoming shows addressing the broader implications of the crisis and potential solutions.

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This episode of The Rubin Report provides a critical examination of the factors contributing to the severe wildfire situation in Los Angeles County. Through incisive dialogue with Dr. Drew Pinsky, host Dave Rubin highlights systemic failures in governance, policy implementation, and departmental management, painting a comprehensive picture of the challenges faced and the urgent need for reform.

Transcript

[Dave Rubin]

All right, guys, we are live. It's January 9th, 2025. I'm Dave Rubin. This is the Rubin Report. We're live streaming. As always, Rumble YouTube locals join us for the post game show. Rubinreport.locals.com I apologize that we're two or three minutes late today. Dr. Drew Pinsky, one of my good friends and native Californian who lives in Pasadena, which is one of the areas affected right now by these fires. He'll be joining us in about four minutes. And obviously with everything going on there, there's some Internet issues and we'll see if we can get the full video. It was a little choppy as we were doing our tests, but that's why we're a minute or two late here. We're going to be focusing on the fire, the sort of immediacy of what's going on and the safety of all of the people. It sounds like. Well, we'll ask Dr. Drew this in just a sec. It sounds like where he is in Pasadena should be okay, but these winds are moving fast. The fires are moving fast. Pacific Palisades is largely destroyed. So we're going to spend the 40 or 45 minutes of the show today just dissecting this, but also connecting it to everything else we talk about on this show, which is how mismanagement and poor governance can actually lead to all of these things. As a few people pointed out to me on Twitter this morning, my last book was called Don't Burn this Country and I suppose I did mean it literally. It was a metaphor when I wrote it. But you know, all of this bad management does actually does lead to quite literally burning things down and good governance can quite literally prevent that. So we'll talk about what went wrong and everything else. I do want to get to Dr. Drew quick, but let me just get you caught up on what's going on here. A bit from the LA Times. We're going to show you some of the video and images right now. More than 2,000 homes, businesses and other buildings have been damaged or destroyed, and at least five people are dead in wildfires scorching communities across LA county, making this one of the most destructive firestorms to hit the region in memory. The five bodies were found in three structures in Altadena where the Eaton fire exploded Tuesday night, giving residents little time to flee. It's estimated that more than 1,000 structures have been destroyed in the Palisades fire and another thousand either damaged or destroyed in the Eaton fire, according to the LA County Fire Department. Weary Los Angeles Firefighters were dispatched to fire two new blazes that erupted Wednesday night, A fast growing brush fire that prompted chaotic evacuations near the Hollywood Hills and a structure fire in Studio City. Firefighters Thursday were continuing to fight the Palisades fire which has burned more than 17,000 acres and the Eaton fire that burned through Pasadena and Altadena areas charring more than 10,000 acres. I should quickly mention that we were going to have Larry Elder who of course not only native Californian, born and bred in California, but also ran for governor against Gavin Newsom. Good friend of mine, obviously good friend of Dr. Drew. He lives in the Hollywood Hills and he was unable to do the show today because he had to evacuate his house. We're praying for him. Tom Bilyeu, my friend who's been on the show many times. He's in the Hollywood Hills from impact theory. I mean many, many people. But let me just show you this one video before we get to Drew actor James woods, who you guys all know, who's been an unbelievable fighter against wokeness and pro America and all of the right things. When I lived in West Hollywood, I used to see him all the on Melrose. The guy is, he's Hollywood. He is Hollywood, which is largely burning down right now. Here he is on CNN talking about how he just lost his home.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

77 years old. Man, I can't walk up these hills. It's like Mount Everest here. It's like, you know, pretty steep. So you know, it's just you. I posted this on X but, but Sarah was on with her 8 year old niece last night. She came out, I'm sorry, just, you know, one day you're swimming in the pool and the next day it's all gone. But she came out with her little yeti piggy bank for us to rebuild our house. Oh my gosh, James Woods, I, I, we all hope that you will be able to rebuild your house, maybe starting with that little yeti piggy bank. And we're just glad that you're okay and your wife is okay. Yeah, no, I mean this is real and it's raw. You know what? Strength is not measured by whether, you know, you hold in crying or not. Strength is what you are doing now and helping your neighbors and shining a light on the great amazing work of all those firefighters and emergency crews out there.

[Dave Rubin]

So that's where we're at. And it doesn't matter if you live in a $20 million mansion in the Hollywood Hills or you're down below in a house that's 200 grand. I mean, this is affecting absolutely everybody. I suppose acts of God are the great equalizer. We'll talk about that and much more with my friend Drew Pinsky from Pasadena in just a sec. But let me talk to you about Rumble Premium real quick. When Rumble first started in 2013, they built the platform for the small creator. They didn't censor or have biases. They were fair and TR treated all creators equally. No one thought platforms would censor political conversation or censor opinions around Covid, but they did. Facebook admitted they fell to pressure from the Biden and Harris administration. Of course, Rumble did not. They held the line. They're attacked daily for giving us a voice to talk to you. They're attacked in corporate media. They're attacked by governments like France. They're attacked by brand advertisers who refuse to work with them. Corporate America is fighting to remove free speech, while Rumble is fighting to keep it. Rumble won't survive with brand advertisers alone. They don't get much of it. So watching our show is the number one way we can ask for support from you. But if you really believe in this fight and you have the means, one major way you can help Rumble survive is by joining Rumble Premium. Join the community that believes in the First Amendment and believes in our human right to free speech. Rumble is offering $10 off with promo code RUBIN. When you purchase an annual subscription, go to rumble.com premiumrubin and use code RUBIN. Like I said, if you have the means and believe in the cause, now is the time to join Rumble Premium. If you don't have the means, we're just happy if you watch us right here on Rumble. All right, so let's get right to it. Dr. Drew Pinsky, live from his home in Pasadena, California. Dr. Drew, are you there?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

I'm here. Can you hear me?

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, we got you. Okay, so we're going to use an image of you for now. Obviously, the Internet's a little shoddy over there at the moment. That's the.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Actually, David said we packed everything up, all of our studio here. So it's the most valuable thing in our home to get ready to evacuate, and then we can't get it to hook back up again. So you have. For having a bunch of amateurs running a studio, I'll take it.

[Dave Rubin]

And I have no doubt that you're getting phone calls in the microphone. So most importantly, I mean, you're in Pasadena. People are seeing the videos out of Pasadena. Phoenix here, grew up in Pasadena. He knows people, friends that he grew up with. That Their houses are destroyed. Are you okay? I mean, you said you're packing up. Are you. Are you trying to get out?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Yeah, no, we're good. We, you know, we live in a fire zone. You become a mini fire and earthquake expert if you live in these zones in Southern California. And so this is not something unanticipated. It's just the magnitude of this thing and the location of. It's actually in terms of the square miles covered. These. These fires aren't that big. It's just that they hit right into these residential areas. And I was speaking to a fire chief yesterday, and he was saying, look, when the winds are blowing 85 to 100 miles an hour, water pressure be damned, we can't do anything. It's just. It's going to. We got to wait until the wind stopped because, a, the winds just carry the fire. You can't. You can't do anything about it. And the heat of it just makes it inapproachable. B, you can't even get the helicopters, the planes into the air in winds like that. I was talking to a helicopter expert yesterday who was saying that if you try to lift off a helicopter, the blades will hit each other and destroy the. Destroy the craft. So the aircrafts were down, which was one of our major defenses for fire today. They're flying in the hills. There is no wind here since last night in Pasadena. Last night, you know, all day we were breathing dense smoke. It was pretty spooky to be breathing the smoke. But last night we saw star. Stars didn't smell smoke anymore. So we're much better over here.

[Dave Rubin]

Right. So, I mean, you're basically confident that you can stay there as long as the winds. It's about the wind, right?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

I mean, it would have to blow through a thousand house and cross the arroyo parking lot, the. The Rose bowl parking lot just to get into our region. So. So we're good. But there's a piece of the story you just rolled in that you haven't touched on yet, pertains to James woods, which is insurance. Insurance had just pulled out of the Palisades. And the fair plan, which is the backup insurance for those of us in fire zones, is on record to go bankrupt. So there will be no insurance resources for anybody. Then, as Adam, you mentioned, ranted about yesterday, when you go and try to rebuild, and if you're on the coast, the coastal commission won't let you do anything because they have a new policy called reclamation, which is nature takes your home bad on you. Sorry, that's where you built it. Nature wants it back.

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, well, unfortunately, we are not at the rebuild part of this. You're referencing Adam Carolla, and he's got a couple videos that are going super viral right now, including from a few years ago when he did some congressional testimony talking about how many years before that he wanted to be a firefighter in Los Angeles. And he was told, well, he's a white guy. Get to the back of the line, wait seven years to do it. And when he finally went back, he happened to talk to a black woman who was also applying, and she had applied four days before or something, literally the Wednesday before.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

He told me that story for 20 years. And look, you don't have to take aim at DEI to talk about the incompetence of our government. They have been focused on everything. I've been complaining about this day for 10 years. Everything except governing, except what governments are supposed to do. Make the roads work, keep the streets safe. Remember the road diets here? I have a feeling that big pile up in the Palisades was a result of a road diet which put these huge bike lanes on either side of the road so emergency vehicles can't get in and out of the major thoroughfares in this country, in this. In this county. And they don't care, just do it. And their. Their goal, of course, is the CO2 emissions. And I just looked this up this morning, and California wildfires have, since 2020, have doubled the reductions achieved since 2003. In other words, in the last, not including this fire, in the last four years up until this fire, everything they've done to reduce CO2 had been undone times two between 2020 and 2024. So if they're actually interested in reducing CO2 emissions, their number one job should be managing fires in Southern California. And listen, I don't know. Did you grow up near the foothills at all when Southern California. Were you in Southern California when you grew up?

[Dave Rubin]

No. No. I got here as an adult in 2013, and when I left, when I had already planned on leaving and I was living in Encino, we had already sold the house, but I was roof one night with ash coming down, putting. Putting water on the roof just in case.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

We used to see when you looked up in the southern, in the foothills was crisscrossed firebreaks and fuel breaks. They were all over the hills. And I spoke to a fire chief yesterday who used to work on those teams in the 70s and 80s, and they stopped doing the firebreaks and brush management, really? Because initially because of migratory patterns of a mouse, and then because they started convincing themselves that there were other ecological effects of what they were doing. So therefore, they could no longer do the routine management, literally, that we did 50 years ago. 50 years ago. So if you want to take aim at climate change, let's say it is climate change, let's say it is, what are you going to do about it? What's your plan? Let's say it is. Everything you're doing is being undone by fires. What's your plan? And anything but govern is what they're doing.

[Dave Rubin]

So we're gonna throw to a bunch of clips as it relates to sort of the general incompetence, some of the things that they haven't done or have done that you referenced right there. And we'll get to the DEI portion of it. And I should note that years ago, when we met in la, I'm talking five years ago now, or so, you were considering running for governor against Newsom. Larry ended up doing it, but you were considering it because you were so frustrated with the mismanagement of the city and Covid and everything else. I first want to throw to this video of Rick Caruso. And for those of you that don't know Rick Caruso, Rick Caruso is basically a legendary commercial real estate developer who built all of the huge malls of the Pacific Palisades, which, miraculously, that mall happens to be still standing. He built the Grove, which is a very famous mall there. The mall in not out in Glendale. Thank you. And here he is. Oh, and he ran for mayor, so he could be the mayor right now. Except he lost. He lost to Karen Bass. Here he is calling into Fox, talking about, well, you'll see some of the inefficiencies. Let's say my heart goes out, obviously to the people with their homes. And I'm watching the small businesses around.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Us go up in flames. This is people's livelihoods.

[Dave Rubin]

So it's devastating. But what is most concerning to me is our first responders and our firefighters.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Who are trying to battle this.

[Dave Rubin]

There's no water in the Palisades. There's no water coming out of the fire hydrants. This is an absolute mismanagement by the city. So no water coming out of the fire hydrants. And Drew, before I let you chime in, let me just throw to a reporter asking Gavin Newsom about exactly that yesterday.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

What is the situation with the water, obviously, in Palisades?

[Dave Rubin]

Ran out last night in the hydrants. I found the firefighter on this block. They left because There was no water in the hydrant here.

[James Woods]

The local folks are trying to figure that out. I mean, just when you have a system that's not dissimilar to what we've seen in other extraordinarily large scale fires, whether it be pipe electricity or whether it just be the complete overwhelm of the system. I mean, those hydrants are typical for two or three fires. Maybe one fire, you have something at this scale. But again, that's going to be determined by the local.

[Dave Rubin]

Drew, everyone knows my feelings about that guy. But that line right there, local folks are going to figure that out. I mean, the buck stops with somebody, man. And I think it's supposed to be you. I don't even. I can't say. Well, I probably could say it, but there's no point.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

We're on the Internet. You can say what you want. But. Oh, you have my picture up.

[Dave Rubin]

So, yeah, we got a video back.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

So two things occur to me. One is, look, when the Doors blew off the plane, the Boeing planes, the CEO got changed. Yeah, you fired the CEO. I don't care who's managing a large operation, the buck stops at the top. He's changed. That's it. The other thought I have, do you remember, I think you were still here. We had those trains that were ransacked in downtown Los Angeles. Yes, yes. Remember that. And he stood in the middle of this. Just absolute, just. It was unbelievable chaos of people's products being strewn all over the railroad tracks. And he goes, what's going on here? Who's in charge? What's up? How. Who's going on? You, sir, are. And if you don't, the lack of ability to manage. And look, Karen Bass, we just. You saw her priorities. She was in Ghana yesterday. She wasn't looking at our. Just look at our road management. Just look at our water management. Mayor something, please govern. Govern for the well being of the people. That's all we want. We want a government that does governing, not is focused on a million other things other than what government is supposed to do.

[Dave Rubin]

We'll have more on Karen Bass in just a second because we were gonna play a clip, actually. I was gonna kind of juxtapose Newsom kicking the can down the road right there with Giuliani on 9 11. Basically saying, I will fix everything. Literally follow me. As buildings are crashing down behind him and just sort of that comparison where he's just so not what the state needs right now. But here's. We'll get to Karen in a moment. Here's Newsom. And who's he pissed at? Well, you can already guess.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

I hate to even ask this question.

[Dave Rubin]

But the president elect chose to attack.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

You, blame you for this.

[James Woods]

One can't even respond to it. I mean, it's. People are literally fleeing. People have lost their lives, kids lost their schools, families completely torn asunder, churches burned down. This guy wanted to politicize it. I have a lot of thoughts, and I know what I want to say. I won't. I stood next to the President of the United States of America today, and I was proud to be with Joe Biden. And he had the backs of every single person in this community. Didn't play politics, didn't try to divide any of us.

[Dave Rubin]

Drew, I'm fairly certain that's playing politics right there.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Oh, of course it is. That's all he knows. His whole being is a big political entity, is this political blob. But here's the other thing. Joe Biden got my back. I heard from Joe Biden is female in here. They're going to give people in Palisade 600 bucks. Is that we're doing. We're going to do that. Look, Joe Biden just had. Even if he did, do we all think he really knows what's going on here? Think about how his cognition is. Nobody really imagines that he is. Forget that he has his finger on the pulse of what's going on here. He barely has a pulse. And so I know no one has brought his name up. We never thought about him in all of this. And as always, remind ourselves that local government has the most significant impact on our lives. It's not the federal government, it's the state, county, and city.

[Dave Rubin]

It's just an unbelievable shell game when you're the governor of the state that this is happening in, when your mayor is quite literally in Ghana and it's your president in charge, whether you like Trump or not and whether he wanted him to be president or not, the guy is not in charge right now. And as a matter of fact, here's video from 2018. Donald Trump warning Gavin Newsom what could happen in California.

[Gavin Newsom]

There's been a lot of study going on over the last little while, and I will say I think you're going to have hopefully this is going to be the last of these, because this was a really, really bad one. And I know Gavin's committed. We're all committed. I'm committed to make sure that we get all of this cleaned out and protected. We've got to take care of the floors, you know, the floors of the forest, very important. You look at other countries where they do it differently, and it's a whole different story. I was with the president of Finland, and he said, we have much different. We're a forest nation. He called it a forest nation. And they spent a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things, and they don't have any problem. And when it is, it's a very small problem. So I know everybody's looking at that to that end, and it's going to work out.

[Dave Rubin]

So there's Donald Trump when he was president, standing next to Gavin Newsom, talking about what needed to be done to avoid the situation we're in. And basically, Newsom has completely ignored it since then.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

No, listen, I'll stand with him on this.

[James Woods]

The.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

The ecological laws in this country, the environmental restrictions on doing anything are so absurd. We have to undo these laws so people can't. There's so. Look, the reason we can't help the homeless is because of the laws, not because of Gavin Newsom. The law. The legislature in this state, you want to really see where the problem is. That's where it is. But I'd like the leader of the. Of the state to help us undo that and change that and point out where their shortcomings are. Not stand back and go, who's in charge here?

[Dave Rubin]

Right? And now check this out. People will remember. This is. This is from barely two months ago when Trump went on Joe Rogan and they talked about some of the mismanagement of California and why this could be a big problem in the future.

[Gavin Newsom]

They said, we have no water. I said, do you have a drought? No, we don't have a drought. I said, why did he have no water? Because the water isn't allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from Canada all the way up north. More water than they could ever use. And in order to protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons of water gets poured. I could have water for all of that land. Water for your forests. You know, your forests are dry as a bone. Yeah, okay.

[Dave Rubin]

Dangerous.

[Gavin Newsom]

That water could be routed. You know, you could have everything. Not only dangerous, billions of dollars a year they spend on forest fires. And, you know, there's a case with the environment. They're not allowed to rake their forests because you're not allowed to touch it. And all they have to do is clean their forest, meaning rake it up. Get rid of the leaves. Get rid of, you know, leaves that are sitting there for five years and they will certainly get rid of the dead fall and get rid of the trees that have fallen.

[Dave Rubin]

All right, so there's Trump two months ago talking about what needed to be done. And now I want to, I'm getting.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

The average person thinks to themselves, well, maybe they can't afford it. We are $80 billion over budget on a rail from Bakersfield farmers to Merced. I challenge any of you to find those two cities on the map and explain to me A, first of all, and find them B, why we need a fast rail between those two 80 billion over budget and not one rail has been laid down. That money could have dealt with this problem. No problem.

[Dave Rubin]

Well, that gets to your exact point that. So whether we wanna lay all the blame and obviously there's acts of God. So I'm not sitting here saying Gavin Newsom did all of this, obviously, but whether you wanna blame the governmental failures on Gavin Newsom or you're right, it's a one state, it's a one party state. So if you wanna blame it on the legislature, that's fine. But to that exact point that Donald Trump was making about what you're allowed to. You made the point previously about what you're allowed to do and not allowed to do because of these ridiculous regulations. Here is Newsom talking about the largest dam in U.S. history and wait till you hear why they did it.

[James Woods]

Largest dam removal project in U.S. history and one of the most significant, if not the most significant water restoration project bringing back salmon and steelhead into this basin. This project could not have happened without extraordinary partnerships with tribal nations. And of course, our partners in the north and Oregon just finished the celebration with the Secretary of the Interior and our tribal council and tribal leaders. And I couldn't be more proud as a Californian and I couldn't be more proud as a father because my kids and their great, great grandkids will have the opportunity to see something that, well, has been here since time immemorial. And it's about damn time we got this time.

[Dave Rubin]

It's about damn time. I'll give him that line. Okay, fine. But, but this is the point. Do you think California would like to have some dams right now that would keep the water a little there? We're all for salmon swimming upstream and it's cool watching them jump out of the water and have the bears grab them. But even that right there, it's to your point exactly. And we're talking with the tribal nations and blah, blah, blah. Well, maybe we needed that Water, anything.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

But the good of the people of this state. Look, Bernie Sanders tweeted this morning something about climate change and this is all climate change. It's not a hoax, blah, blah. Okay, let's assume it is climate change.

[Dave Rubin]

Just make that assumption, Grant them that.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Something, do with it. Then what are you going to do about it? You're in. Your biggest concern should then be the CO2 from forest fires. That should be your new number one concern, if indeed climate change. But they don't. They only like doing what sounds and feels good, not what is logically good, what is common sense and what is for the good of the people and is the basic functions of something we call government.

[Dave Rubin]

I think you're making a great point that I'm going to reiterate on the show over and over again. Even if regardless of what anyone thinks about climate change, whether you believe in it or not or anything else, let's grant them that. If you go out there and grant them. Okay, fine, it's real. Well, what did you guys do to prevent the thing that's happening right now? You're the governor, you're the president, you've got the legislature, et cetera. Check this out. To the point of this sort of one party state situation. Here is a video of Newsom in April of 21 talking about how they're more prepared for these types of events because Biden is president and not Donald Trump.

[James Woods]

That's what's different now is we are committed as a team, as a partnership with the legislature and other state agencies, including now the federal government. No longer a sparring partner, but a working partner. Federal government where we're not addressing headwinds, but tailwinds. In terms of the support a memorandum of understanding doubling our respective commitments to vegetation management and forest management and prescribed burns to support the Biden administration with resources, not just rhetoric to help this collective of cause. It's a different paradigm, it's a different.

[Dave Rubin]

Framework we're starting to beat.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

I bet all that money was spent on studying the ecological effects of forestry management. I bet they did none of it. That's my bet, right?

[Dave Rubin]

Well, that's. That's it, right? I mean, it's just words with this guy. There's just nothing left. And speaking of just words, you mentioned. Oh, go ahead.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

He said something. He said, I don't want to be a sparring partner with the federal government. So why are you focusing your state? I'm preparing to resist the upcoming presidency. That's what you said. Your job is now to trump proof the State. Well done, sir. Well done.

[Dave Rubin]

That's quite literally what he was saying last week before all of this, that they were getting all of the legal mechanisms in place to fight the Trump administration every which way. You did mention Joe Biden. He's largely irrelevant. He's got less than two weeks of this sham travesty left. But listen to this just tone deaf line. The audio's a little bit muffled, so you guys may have to turn up your audio on this. Take a look.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

The good news is I'm a great grandfather. Baby girl, baby boy.

[Dave Rubin]

So, Drew, I know we're almost done with this thing, but just that right there, that this man who obviously either has, as we've talked about before, some version of Parkinson's or dementia or whatever it is, who's clearly not in charge, hasn't been in charge, kicked out by his own party. They drag him out there. And the tone deafness to be talking about his. It's nice to become a great grandfather, but it's all just. It's just. It's fiction. It's fiction. Except reality.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Yeah. You wouldn't write. You wouldn't. If somebody did a movie on this. You go over the top too much. Too much. Tone it down. No one will believe this. I don't. You know, people get. Look, you look at the Palisades in Santa Monica. They voted all these folks in.

[Dave Rubin]

Yep.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Okay. You are the ones that enthusiastically have supported the Coastal Commission. Let's see if you. How enthusiastic you are about all this as we survey the scene and anticipate trying to rebuild or looking at the financial consequences of all this. This is your estate. This is what we've done. We can also change it. And we must. We must change it. We need real leadership in here. Somebody's got to come out of this as a phoenix out of this fire and lead us out. Look, I'll say it again. Doors blew off the plane. CEO has changed at Boeing.

[Dave Rubin]

Boom.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

That fast. And guess what? Look at the stock. Look at the aircraft. Everything is going the right direction now. You put the right people in place, and we don't need to argue about anything other than competency and doing the job well. That's it. I don't care who does it. I just want them focused on government and governing. And I want the best possible person for that job, period.

[Dave Rubin]

Drew, what do you think of my theory? I posted it this morning. Or not. My theory, my idea that perhaps Gavin Newsom, who owns PlumpJack Winery up there in Northern Cali, which has at least 50 acres of beautiful land up there. Maybe he could donate those acres to some of the people who've lost their houses. What do you think? What do you think?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Yeah.

[Dave Rubin]

Then they can go to la franchi.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

RFK Jr wants to set up some encampments for homeless and rehabilitation. We should put those up there, too. Be perfect. This would be great. Thank you, Mr. Newsom.

[Dave Rubin]

To contrast, sort of the Gavin Newsom version of all of this with some competent governance, Drew and I, every time he comes on the show, we joke about how he should be moving to Florida, of course. And I'm still trying to be his real estate agent.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

I was there two days ago.

[Dave Rubin]

But one of the lines that I love.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

I'm a little more comfortable down there, I gotta tell you.

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, Especially now. I mean, look, one of the lines that I love most from our governor is that decline is a choice. And it really is. And Ron DeSantis tweeted this. Our prayers are with everyone affected by the horrific fires in Southern California. When disaster strikes, we must come together to help our fellow Americans in any way we can. The state of Florida has offered to help assist the people of California in responding to these fires and in rebuilding communities that have been devastated. And that's what the American spirit is all about. Look, we can dump on Newsom all day long, but there's unbelievable devastation happening here in California. And maybe DeSantis and some of the other states can help out. Guys, let's talk about 1775 Coffee real quick. And then we'll get to the mayor of Los Angeles. And if you thought some of the Newsom stuff was bad, we got some stuff on the other side. It's time to make mornings great again. If your coffee isn't fueling your fight for health and freedom, it's time for an upgrade. 1775 Vitality Coffee isn't just coffee. It's brain fuel for patriots. Packed with lion's mane, reishi, cordyceps, chaga, and turkey tail mushrooms. This coffee doesn't just wake you up, it keeps you sharp and ready for anything. Lion's mane and reishi boost focus. Cordyceps deliver clean, crash free energy. And our hand picked Bolivian beans pack a bold flavor. Corporate coffee can't compete with no fillers, no woke nonsense, just coffee that works as hard as you do. Proudly backed by Rumble, this coffee isn't for conformists. It's coffee for the bold, the free and the rebellious. Head over to 1775 Coffee.com and use code Reuben for 15% off. Make mornings great again with coffee. That stands for Bold flavor, uncompromising quality. And the Freedom Rumble champions every day. All right, so let's talk about the mayor of Los Angeles. We showed you the video earlier, and you heard from Rick Caruso, who lost the man who was an actual builder and should have been mayor of Los Angeles. And maybe some of this wouldn't be as devastating. It is, but they went with Karen Bass. And I wanna start with a tweet of Karen Bass from 2021. You'll see why we're doing it. This is Karen Bass in February of 21. Ted Cruz fleeing Texas in the middle of a deadly crisis is part of a larger pattern of the GOP abandoning folks in crisis. We need to build a movement to kick them all out. Well, Karen Bass. Yeah. You were in Ghana. We don't know exactly why you were in Ghana. We do know you've made at least 15 trips to Cuba. Drew, maybe you want to comment on that in Just a Mom, but she's back and fairly incompetent at the moment. And if you'd like to see example 101 of incompetence, look at this right now. If you need help, emergency information, resources and shelter is available.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

All of this can be found at URL.

[Dave Rubin]

Los Angeles together is how we will get through this.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Through the heroicism of our firefighters.

[Dave Rubin]

The vigilant Drew. Have you been to URL? Is it offering you any URLs?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Frankly, but she didn't tell us which one to go to. I'm sure she's a lovely woman. I really. I'm no doubt in my mind. She's a wonderful lady. She's not the right person for the job right now. She just isn't. I'm sorry. It's baked into this situation. She. You know, there's. Now, I haven't confirmed this, but. But she's been an activist most of her life. She's been focused on ideology most of her life. We need people that are. We need, like, an engineer in there how to solve problems. We've messed around too long in the world of ideas and sort of feel good. You can tell she's used to delivering messages that feel good. We feel good. We're here for you. None of that matters.

[Dave Rubin]

Doesn't matter.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Nobody's going to feel better because Karen Bass says, we're here for you. They've lost everything. They've lost everything and need to reestablish their life. It's horrible. It's gonna feel horrible no matter what I say. No matter what she says. Let's get down to solving the problems of real people are having on the ground.

[Dave Rubin]

Right. And these are the same people, of course, who cut funding to the police and who allowed for the homeless encampments everywhere and who also decided to force you to be injected with things and lock you in your house. And everyone knows all that. We talked about it yesterday. She cut $17.4 million from the fire department. And now watch this. If you think it was bad, her reading off that statement and not even knowing what she was reading to say URL like that. Watch this.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Reminds me of Biden.

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, no, it does. It does. Let's say a slightly more functioning version, but watch this as she stands in silence while being asked a question by a reporter. Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars? Madam Mayor, have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position? Madam Mayor, have you absolutely nothing to say to the city citizens today who are dealing with this disaster? No apology for them. Do you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding back home? It continues. I'm cutting back to the video earlier because I want to get your take on that, but I got to push back on you, Drew. I have no reason to believe she is a good person and a lovely person or anything else. That video right there. She should step down today, period. She's utterly incompetent. She can't do anything off script. She's clearly unequipped to do this job. Like, I do not think these people deserve the benefit of the doubt while literally thousands of people are gonna be homeless. Are homeless right now.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Yeah. I think it's a defensible position. That's for sure. And the really interesting thing to me is these guys are so used to being the good guys. We're about joy. We're about happiness. Like Kamala Harris. Remember all that with her? They're so used to just the feel good and the ideological sort of kumbaya that we're all. We're all feeling good about this. We have great feelings. And when they are actually confronted with the reality of their job, they literally don't know what to say. There was something very easy to say. Of course, a leader would say, you know what? I took my eye off the ball. It will never happen again. You have my word on this. I will solve these problems. It is time to get down to work here. Any other questions? That's it? That's all you got to say? And you. I remember when Giuliani was marching down the street outside the World Trade center, going, yes, I will never forget this, because my attitude changed in a second. He goes, all right, let's go. We're going to rebuild these things. They just fall in them. He goes, don't worry about it. Let's go. Let's get on this. We're gonna. We're gonna start right now rebuilding. It was the same day they fell down. And I personally, it felt great to see somebody say, we're gonna get through this, no problem. And I'm gonna be the guy to get you through it. And if I had anything to do with this having happened, I guarantee you, I guarantee you it will never happen again. And I will see to it that we change how things are done in this city. God, done and done.

[Dave Rubin]

How much changes in less than 25 years? As everyone that's watching this knows, I was in New York City during 9 11. And to be in that city during 911 with that man, and you're right, watching him on TV as for weeks and weeks after, but literally the day of 9 11, with the buildings crashing behind him, with firefighters around him, it was the comfort that he gave us. This man is in charge. And she stands there in stunned silence. You have to step down, lady. You do not deserve that. If that level of incompetence right there and bewilderment and deer in the headlights, if that's not enough to force someone to step down, then there's no level of incompetence. And perhaps that's where California's at. It should also be noted that Biden almost made Karen Bass his VP way back when. But now I do wanna. I wanna connect this to something else that we're always talking about, of course, which is the DEI stuff, because it is not disconnected. And listen to this from the Libs of TikTok Twitter account. The LA Fire Department passed a racial equity plan to end systemic, institutional and structural racism in la. Part of it is a chart to map out the race of every employee to make sure that they're racially diverse enough. Now, we're gonna show you an incredible thread in just a moment, but I wanna drive home one point. And Drew, I'd love your take on this. My friend Peter Boghossian, who's been on the show many times, he told me something literally nine or ten years ago that has always stuck with me before we even called it wokeness once you put in this racialization into a system, you automatically are degrading the system. Sometimes very slowly, but sometimes very quickly. Because once, whatever your institution is supposed to do, whether you're supposed to make shoes or you're the governor supposed to govern a state, once you decide, oh, we're gonna focus on something else other than the core competency of the institution or organization, right. Congratulations, you are no longer as good at what you do. So maybe you wanna comment on that first and then we'll show you what's going on with the fire department.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

I think the way to understand what you're saying is let's say, first of all, I hope they've done away with systemic racism. I hope it worked. I hope it did. But let's say we shifted the focus to 30 to 40 year old males of Irish and Italian descent, and we only selected for 30 to 40 year old males of Irish and Italian. Description, dissent. Very quickly we would run out of quality candidates and we would start accepting people in order to meet that mandate that we would otherwise not have accepted. Because our mandate is white men 30 to 40 years of age. It just is not a. From an engineering standpoint, it's not something that can be sustained. I hope it had the intended effect. But look, look, I was thinking about Karen Bass again, Dave, and we, you know, this all, remember this all started with men being toxic. Look, leadership matters. Leadership is a thing that humans need. People can be led. And when they are led, guess what? Look at all of history. When there are solid leaders making good decisions, there are good outcomes. That's it. That's how things get done in human organizations. And if you don't have quality leadership, things drift and things fall apart. And then within that leadership, if you have mandates that become unsustainable in terms of creating merit, then you must rebuild the system and you must have leadership within it.

[Dave Rubin]

Well, instead, apparently they had mandates that led to a lot of lesbians who don't go on a lot of mandates running the LA Fire Department. This thread is absolutely extraordinary. This is from Daniel Greenfield. Listen to this. The LA Fire Department is very diverse. It's run by lesbians named Kristen. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Meet the team. Number one, Kristen Crowley, first LGBTQ fire chief. She makes 440 grand a year. Harvard Business School mission. The quotes, creation of systemic equity and inclusion across the LA Fire Department. I don't know what that has to do with putting out fires. Number two, Christina Kepner, the first lesbian assistant chief of the LA Fire Department, Harvard Kennedy School for Managing Diverse Organizations. Greatest achievement, accused of a domestic violence incident involving her girlfriend, number three. How they were named Kristen, I have no idea. Christine Larson, L.A. fire Department's first lesbian equity bureau chief. That sounds like a job. 400 grand for that. Co founder of Equity on Fire. Got the job by constantly accusing LA Fire Department of being racist and sexist. And finally, well, it's a lesbian, but she's not named Kristen, at least. Jamie Brown, first LA Fire Department lesbian training commander. Greatest accomplishment, not being named Kristen Christine. Putting aside the Kristen Christine thing, I would also broadly like to say that if you're in a jam, sometimes, if your car breaks down, you kind of do want a lesbian. They always have a carabiner. They're usually able to do a lot of things. But, Drew, this is absurd. This is utterly absurd. What does any of this have to do with putting out fires?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

So. So I would argue that back to what we said about climate change and CO2 emissions and forest fires. Let's lean into it, Dave. Let's lean into it. Go. Okay, good. Well done. Well done, you. Mission accomplished. Although the Christine Christine thing makes me believe I'm in the.

[Dave Rubin]

Where they call it, you're in Heathers. We're in Heather's something.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

But. But. But. Okay, all right. Well done. Now let's hold their hand to the fire. Hold these people's hand to the fire. Do your damn job. If you can't do your job, change it. That's actually only thing that worries me about any of this stuff is that you're not allowed to fire or change people in positions because they'll accuse you of being anti LGBTQ or something. My thing is lean in. Good. Well done. You did it. I'm so. I'm so pleased we've done something in terms. I really am. I actually am. I like that we've done something in terms of improving lgbtq. And I mean, I don't.

[Dave Rubin]

I don't care.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Now let's put your hand to the fire. People are dying. Their lives are being destroyed. Let's do your job. And if you can't do it, somebody.

[Dave Rubin]

Else do it to the point of how it degrades everything. And you're right, by the way. You know, it would be. If there was an all lesbian fire department, but they were competent, then so be it. I don't like the idea of discriminating against straight women because of it, but I think everyone gets the point. But check this out, because the point that we're trying to illustrate Here is that when this happens, over time you will see a degradation of everything. So here is former mayor, previous Mayor of Los Angeles, Eric Garcetti. And what was he most concerned about as it pertained to the Fire Department. These young women are trying on LA firefighter gear for fun. But recruiting, training, and inducting them into the ranks of the LA Fire Department and LAPD is serious business as city leaders work to attract more women into these jobs. This mega recruitment event is one of Garcetti's many efforts to bring more women into traditionally male dominated police and firefighter jobs. The LAPD is seeing 10% of its academy classes filled with women, and female recruitment in the fire department has shot up by 40%. Drew, I think everyone gets the point here. No one is saying that by default these women were unqualified. But once they allowed that into the system, the system was going to not be quite as good as it was before.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

And if the system were thriving and performing at the highest possible level, we wouldn't be having this conversation. There's been, there's a problem. There's a problem at every level of government in California. You know what, by the way, Pasadena, I live in Pasadena. They do a pretty damn good job here. I don't have a lot of complaints about, you don't hear me talking about. But we are separate here in Pasadena. We're not LA City, we're in LA county. And we got some problems because of that. But the city of Pasadena is actually well run. We have our own water power, we have our own public health. And, and guess what? I don't, I'm not. You don't sit here complaining about our fire department is second to none. No complaints. But Palisade's got some notes, right? And as you get out of Pasadena and back into LA county, only into the other cities, things don't go so well.

[Dave Rubin]

Well, Drew, as you calmed down there and talked about, said some nice things about Pasadena, now I got one that's gonna get your blood pressure going crazy because check out this video about how many firefighters were fired because they didn't take the COVID vaccine.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Love my job.

[Dave Rubin]

I feel like I poured my heart into it. I promoted to the rank of engineer.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

So I got to drive the fire.

[Dave Rubin]

Engine, got to do a lot of.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Amazing things, help a lot of people in the city.

[Dave Rubin]

It's a difficult day for Matt mamon. After nearly 15 years of se with the LA Fire Department, he was terminated for refusing to take the COVID vaccine without applying for a religious or medical exemption.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

113 LA City firefighters have been suspended without pay for defying the city's vaccine mandate in November. Firefighters who had not submitted their vaccination status or requested an exemption were informed they would face suspension and termination. The policy requires city employees to be vaccinated by December 18th. The fire department says firefighters who continue to resist the mandate will be entered.

[Dave Rubin]

Into the process of termination.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Two things, Dave A. I don't know if you saw the grand jury report out of the great state of Florida. You ought to get Joe Latipo to come in or even Desantis to talk about it. There it is. It is. It even shocked me. And they are going to be taking some action as a result of what was uncovered about the vaccines and the shortcomings and the consequences in a grand jury legal setting where people will no longer be able to say it's not been proven or the court of law hasn't seen this, they've now seen it. There's a big problem, number one. Number two, I forgot what I was gonna say about number two. And it was gonna be a better point than number one. I got so excited about the vaccine.

[Dave Rubin]

I'll hear, I'll make half a point for you and then we'll see if you can clean it up. I mean, the point broadly would be, well, actually, why don't I show you a tweet right now for. From Los Angeles Scanner. There are not enough firefighters according to the LA Fire Department chief. So do you think if you thin out the pool by saying we'd prefer black lesbians as firefighters and then you also say, oh, and you guys who are competent firefighters who've been with us for 15, 20 years and good at your job and physically fit and everything else, you gotta go. Cause you don't want the experimental quote unquote vaccine. And do you think that leads us to this point here? Did I give you something there?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Yes. Need to throw open the door. As I remember my point now, which was whomever. Look, everybody, everybody in this state of feel good land of Newsomland believes that if they were in Germany in 1935, they'd be pushing against the Nazis. They'd go to try to kill Hitler. I suggest if you were involved in firing that fire department, that fireman, you would have been a prison guard in 1930 Germany. And you need everybody that reported their neighbors or who took an issue with somebody who was just asking questions or for standing up for their civil liberties. You must examine yourself and realize you would be a prison guard, not somebody fighting against The Nazis. You are in the delusion. You are part of the problem. You are in the mass formation and you must fight against that and think independently and defend the founding principles of this country, which are designed as a buttress against exactly this kind of thing. And thank God it got us through this.

[Dave Rubin]

You know, I have to say, Drew, and you know this, cuz we had many illegal dinners during COVID I thought it was a very valuable and worthwhile fight to fight against California when I was there. And since I've been here in Florida, maybe it's part age or where I'm at in my life. I like fighting for something rather than fighting against it. But you're absolutely right. And I think this is probably a perfect ending of today's show. We've shown you a lot about government incompetence and people who do not deserve the titles and roles they are in. Here is Rudy Giuliani, 9 11, with New York City Fire Department officials. I want to shift gears for a moment. Tell me, what is your philosophy in leadership?

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

So many people are admiring your leadership just now.

[Dave Rubin]

I think that you have to. I think a couple of things.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

You have to lead by example and.

[Dave Rubin]

You have to be honest.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

You got to be willing to work.

[Dave Rubin]

As hard as the people that you're asking to work with you and not be removed from them. I'm here on behalf of a very grateful and very admiring city to tell each and every one of you how proud we are of you and saying how proud we are of the innocent men and women who are going about their lives seeking their part of the American dream when their lives were cut short by the act of cowardly terrorists. And how proud we are of all of you who have come here to rescue them and return as many of them as we can to their loved ones. Honestly, Drew, I got. I got chills down my spine listening to that. I mean, again, I was.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

Those were his more sober comments. There were times where he was very rah rah. He was like, let's get this. We got it. We got it. Let's go. I'm so proud of you guys. Guys, that. That was the stuff I responded to. I remember back in the day.

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah. And it's just. It's just such a stark difference to. To what you guys are dealing with. And. Well, Drew, I'm. I'm praying for you guys.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

It's pathetic, frankly. It's pathetic. And we can do better. This is a great state and we've just. I. One of the reasons I've stayed here Dave, I as. I've been as, you know, tempted to come join you in Florida, but it's worth fighting for again. It's just a great state and we just, we're destroying it. And how much further we going to let this go?

[Dave Rubin]

Well, no pun intended. I mean, as you sort of referenced this before, but maybe a Phoenix does need to rise out of the ashes, in this case, literally to fix this. Like everyone always says. Well, what's rock bottom with all of this? Maybe this time, maybe burning down one of the most legendary cities in the United States will be enough. Drew. Love ya. Love Susan. Stay safe. And if obviously you got a room here. Anytime, my friend.

[Dr. Drew Pinsky]

We'll. We'll visit.

[Dave Rubin]

No doubt that was an ominous ending to the show. That doesn't seem right. All right, thanks, Drew. Guys, our full episode with Tony Robbins is up right now. If you need just some sort of like, just like a burst of life is good and you can make it great do check that out. And tomorrow we've got a panel show recapping just this whole crazy week with John Cardillo, former NYPD officer John Cardillo, and New York Post journalist Carol Markowitz. Post game show in 30 seconds. Ruben, report Locals. Com.