The Rubin Report — Australia’s Immigration Has Taken a Dark Turn & the World Needs to Know | Erin Molan

Release Date: December 13, 2025
Host: Dave Rubin
Guest: Erin Molan

Episode Overview

Dave Rubin is joined by Australian broadcaster and commentator Erin Molan for an unflinching conversation about Australia’s changing approach to immigration, the implications for national culture and security, the silence of political leadership, and how Australia’s “mainstream” attitudes compare with those in the U.S. The episode delves into the mechanics of Australia’s legal immigration system, the cultural and infrastructure strains, the October 7th aftershocks, and critical reflections on mainstream and alternative media integrity.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Erin Molan’s Background & Shift to Independent Media

• [03:11] Erin describes her career in sports broadcasting, transition to political commentary, and recent move to independence after years in mainstream media.

  • On why she changed direction:

    “I got a little bit tired, Dave, of talking about blokes’ groins at 11pm on a Friday night. I thought there’s gotta be more to life.” (Erin Molan, 04:24)

• [04:40] Erin’s family legacy: daughter of a major general and a senator, with a passion for national security and Western values.

• [05:08] Her coverage of the Middle East, most notably after October 7th, brought her international attention, often courting controversy.

2. Australia’s Unique Immigration Challenge

• [05:56] Dave reflects on visiting Melbourne and noticing the rapid demographic changes.

• [07:27] Erin explains Australia’s immigration situation:

  • Most immigration in Australia is legal and government sanctioned, unlike the U.S.'s border crisis.
  • The sheer numbers are overwhelming infrastructure—housing, jobs, healthcare—and affecting both established locals and earlier generations of immigrants.
  • Not about race, but about “respecting what we value as a nation”—assimilation and alignment with foundational culture.

• Impact on social fabric:

  “We’ve welcomed so many people into our country who don’t align with what we believe in… They don’t recognise the country that they fled their own homes for.” (Erin Molan, 07:47)

• Rental crisis and infrastructure strain:

  “You look at rental lines for people trying to find homes in Australia now, and they are kilometres long. It is insanity.” (Erin Molan, 07:55)

3. The October 7th Shock and Weak National Response

• [09:33] Erin recounts the chilling celebration at Sydney Opera House supporting the attack on Israel, prior to any military response in Gaza.

  • Silence from mainstream Australians and leadership deeply troubled her.

  • “What terrified me was the silence of my fellow Australians in the face of this. And I thought, this is a moment for our country to come together… And we failed miserably.” (Erin Molan, 10:16)

• Reflections on her father’s military experience: Upholding values is what distinguishes a society worth defending.

• On cultural assimilation:

  “Don’t try and destroy the elements of our culture and our country that make us who we are and attracted you to us in the first place.” (Erin Molan, 11:40)

4. Political Paralysis and Solutions

• [13:53] Erin laments lack of strong political will; admires Andrew Hastie for proposing common-sense hardline policies.

• Governments rely on mass immigration for short-term economic gains but neglect social consequences and infrastructure.

  “If you bring people into your country who want to kill you, then you basically gift them the opportunity to come in, do that, and destroy your entire livelihood. And it’s what we’re doing.” (Erin Molan, [01:30] & 15:12, recurring)

• Hope for a policy-based shift:

  “We’re lucky. It’s policy. It’s good, strong policy and a population who recognizes it. And I reckon we’re getting close.” (Erin Molan, 15:46)

5. Political Identity in Australia vs. the US

• [16:32] Dave and Erin break down the “Liberal Party” (conservative in Australia) and how nomenclature confuses American observers.

• “You look at Milei in Argentina… at the end of politics, most people will not like you, so you might as well do what is right… We’re seeing just over and over politicians with no backbone.” (Erin Molan, 17:15)

6. Media Bias and Trump Perceptions in Australia

• [17:56] Australians, even those friendly to American-style conservatism, are still put off by the aesthetics of Donald Trump—a phenomenon Dave calls “aesthetic injury,” borrowing from Gad Saad.

• “There still exists this element… ‘Stop illegal immigration, stop the drugs… but Donald Trump? Oh, no.’” (Erin Molan, 19:18)
  “Imagine if all you watched on your free to air networks was CNN and then you had to make an assessment on a leader in another country. And that assessment is what they’re making essentially on Donald Trump.” (Erin Molan, 20:34)

• Dave’s retort:

  “I don’t think you can tell the guy who did the thing that everyone said couldn’t be done how to behave.” (Dave Rubin, 21:45)

7. Climate Policy and Economic Self-Sabotage

• [23:58] Erin critiques Australia’s devotion to global climate mandates even as other countries move on.

  “You sell a lot of it [energy], and then we buy it back at twice the price. It’s insanity.” (Erin Molan, 23:58)

  • “What our country and our governments have committed to is utterly ridiculous. It’s embarrassing.” (Erin Molan, 24:49)

8. Integrity in Alternative Media

• [27:13] Erin describes striving for truth and confronting echo chambers, as well as the problem of alt-media figures succumbing to clickbait or monetary temptation.

  “I look at these people that have… celebrated their independence by saying, ‘I’m no longer controlled by mainstream media…’ only to then go and be this to money and clicks and things that don’t align with their values.” (Erin Molan, 27:34)

• On how she keeps her independence:

  • Avoiding sponsorship or financial bias.
  • Willingness to publicly disagree with her own base to maintain integrity, even on emotionally charged issues.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the crisis of immigration and values:

  “Who did my dad go to Iraq for? Who did our forefathers go to war for? What did they go to war to protect?… A lot of people here actually don’t hold the values that people prior to us have died for.” (Erin Molan, 10:43)

• On “Trump Derangement Syndrome” in Australia:

  “Donald Trump? Oh, oh, no. Remember that… you’re so right. I hadn’t quite put it in my head in that way, but it still exists to a significant degree… Unless you watch say Fox News or get your media from elsewhere, if you’re an everyday Australian… what they see are elements that only back up their Trump derangement syndrome.” (Erin Molan, 19:12–20:48)

• On the integrity struggle in alt media:

  “I’m constantly challenging my narrative… Again, I’ve made a commitment to tell the truth and to say the truth… I never have and I never would [compromise].” (Erin Molan, 27:49)

Key Timestamps

• 03:11 — Erin’s media career and transition to politics
• 07:27 — Australian immigration breakdown and cultural impact
• 09:33 — October 7th, Opera House protests, and national values
• 13:53 — What to do about the immigration problem; political inertia
• 17:56 — How “Trump derangement syndrome” still shapes Australian opinion
• 23:58 — Energy policy and Australia’s adherence to climate mandates
• 27:13 — The challenge of remaining independent in alt media

Final Reflections

Erin Molan and Dave Rubin deliver a candid, nuanced discussion about the real world consequences of mass immigration, the fading “Australian identity,” the corrosive effects of political cowardice, and the fragility of truth in both mainstream and alternative media. Molan’s emphasis on defending civilization’s core values and her personal commitment to independent, honest commentary resonate as both a warning and a blueprint for cultural renewal.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in global politics, cultural integrity, or the shifting landscape of modern media.