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Dave Rubin
Previously on the Rubin River Signs. As an indication of what the consequences will be, any fearful action. I didn't realize this was a crime. Yes, they might not come out onto the streets with a van and kill us. I have to go off the grid. That is the best example of suicidal energy. All right, people, this is it. I'm Dave Rubin. This is the Rubin report. It is July 30, 2026, and although there are 31 days in July, today is our last live show as I am about to go off the grid for all of August. I will not return live until September 1, when a special guest host. I promise you're going to love this person. Not even going to tell you their gender in case they change it over the course of the summer. And they will bring me back online and we will see what I miss. I'm going to offer you guys a whole bunch of commentary about what I'm doing and why I do off the grid and everything else over the course of the next hour. But we're going to be really here today recapping season 13. Our seasons here at the Rubin Report are from September to July, not the calendar year. We do it a little more close to, you know, your old school schedule. And we are wrapping up our 13th season. And it was once again, I mean, every year, somehow. I'm like an OG YouTuber at this point. I've been around the block doing this thing, and the show just seems to get bigger and bigger each and every year. We wanted to just pull some quick numbers just to really show you guys that you're not alone being a normal, sane person watching this show. From September 1, 2025 to today, we got over 600 million views. Views that does not include audio, podcast, audio, anything. And that's how most podcasters kind of grade themselves. I didn't even bother with those numbers because I consider this a video show. 600 million views. We got over 300,000 thousand subscribers. And the numbers have just been phenomenal. And numbers are not end all be all. But it is nice to see that after all this time, you guys are still with me and we're still growing and doing great stuff. So today on the show, we're gonna go through each month since September with some highlights. And obviously, it was a. Well, certainly September started off as a rough year, but we're gonna get into some highlights. We're gonna get into some of the crazy moments. I'm gonna make a couple special announcements. At the end, we've got a locals Q and A. Oh, and lower chair today, because right after this, assuming everyone behaves, I am actually interviewing Justin and Luke in the studio before we shut everything down for the summer. And I'm really excited about that. And, man, I am leaving with a busted. Look at that hump. He's still there. We'll see if he's gone by the time I get back. All right, so let's dive in. And again, a couple special announcements. I do hope that you'll stick around to the end of the show, and what we taped yesterday for you for tomorrow's 11am show is genuinely like nothing we've ever done before. And I really think you're gonna enjoy it. So please do tune in tomorrow at 11:00am oh, and I guess I should say I'll do a little more of this at the end, but I am just so unbelievably appreciative and humbled and so filled with gratitude that you guys give me any time of your day. And it is not lost. And it's not lost on anyone in this room. And we have an absolute. I know I can speak for everyone when I say this. We have an unbelievably great time doing this show and put this together. And the amount of laughter that goes on before and during and after the show. And despite all the craziness and the communists and all the stuff that we love putting this on. And I think that translates into why you probably watch the show. And we really do appreciate it. So. All right, so let's start. We're just going to go pick one or two moments from each month of the season to go through. And unfortunately, I have to start, obviously, with the thing that really set the tone for the entire year. And as I said, I said yesterday, I still don't think we fully grappled with properly, but on September 10, 2025, my friend Charlie Kirk was assassinated. We don't need to show you the video or anything else. It was obviously an unbelievably difficult day. I remember exactly where I was when I saw a text about it. I was coming downstairs, I was about three steps down, and I saw it. And it was one of those things. I was like, first it was that he had been shot. I didn't know that he was killed. And we just. I literally could not believe it. Like, I was looking at something as if I was having a nightmare or something. And we ended up. That was, I think, around 12:30 or so, something like that. Our time. We had already done our show for the day, but we did do A live stream later in the day. We're show you a clip of that a little bit later. But then on the next day I was in New York because it was September 11th and I was there to honor several September 11th events. And I went down to ground zero and I was doing a bunch of media and I was asked to do Piers Morgan to honor my friend. And I knew they were bringing on or they told, I had told Piers already, I didn't want to do the show. I didn't want to do those panels anymore, but I was going to do it for Charlie. And then they told me that my former boss, Cenk Uygur, who's just a genuinely awful person who has spent so much time in his career calling Trump and Charlie and all of us Nazis and all the rest of it. I knew he was going to be on the panel and I knew exactly what was going to happen and I wanted to honor Charlie properly and I wasn't going to let someone just who has done so much damage to Charlie's legacy or tried to destroy Charlie's career just have his moment. And well, this happened to own Piers. But please, please, let's not pretend we don't know where this stuff is coming from and please, let's not pretend that this thing is going both ways because it is absolutely not. I also have. Well, you know what, Cenk, I'll ask you a question directly actually. Do you think Charlie wanted to be martyred? Do you think Charlie wanted to be martyred? Do you think Charlie wanted to be killed? Yes or no?
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Arthur Brooks
Of course not.
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Ben Ferguson
What kind of asinine question is that?
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Dave Rubin
Oh, you don't? You don't? Because that's pretty interesting. Cuz here's a video of you, Jake, talking when Charlie was at a breakfast.
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Ben Ferguson
It allows for easy martyrdom for these guys and they don't deserve it. But I do also want to point out, as in they're in the middle of crying now. Although Charlie was smiling ear to ear throughout the entire video thinking, yes, I'm now the victim and I'll get the claim that my rights have been.
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Dave Rubin
Catch the beginning of that Cenk harm on me. Is that what you're trying to do?
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Ben Ferguson
Jesus Christ.
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Dave Rubin
No, no, no. I'm trying to do conciliation. Exactly what people like. You look at the last two things
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Ben Ferguson
that you're the last two guests.
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Dave Rubin
Here's no. What they said was, yes, we should have reconciliation, but it is not without any contrition. Right? It's not without a mea culpa. Charlie was accosted by Antifa at a breakfast in Philadelphia. And the video that I just played is you with a cartoon of him as Charlie Brown saying that he would love to be martyred so he could be the victim. Well, I guarantee you his wife, who now doesn't have a husband, and his kids who don't have fathers, did not want him to be.
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Ben Ferguson
What you just played isn't what I.
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Dave Rubin
It's exactly what you said, brother.
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Arthur Brooks
All right.
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Dave Rubin
It's actually kind of hard. It's weird that we started with that. That's just how the year started. In a weird way. I did not want to do that because I wanted to honor him properly. And I hope that you guys know because it's been my intention every day since then to honor him properly. And when so many other people have not and have tried to twist his words and take his private text and do all this other stuff, I mean, you can just even watching that video to watch my. I was so angry and so upset. And later in the video, I read 10 titles of his videos about Charlie and 10 titles of Cenk's videos about Donald Trump, Nazi, Hitler, all this stuff. And you heard him say there, what are you trying to get me killed? It was like, dude, I was just reading your stuff about Charlie and Trump back to him. So I hope. Well, Charlie, I hope you thought I did. You're right there. It was too raw. It was too raw and real in that moment. But thatbut, you know, Charlie's assassination really did, I think, in so many ways set the tone for the entire year. And I don't think we've quite grappled with it. And I think it will have an awful lot to do with what happens in the midterms, cuz whether the right can be united in the face of the communists or everything else. But I want to focus on hopefully some more positive stuff over the course of the next hour. So October, we just had an absolute blast. We went, I took the whole team. We went to Australia. We did what, six or seven live shows that we wrote that day. We had special guests. I did tons of media. We hung out with kangaroos and koalas and all the stuff. Here's a little trailer of our Australia tour. And one of the things I love about doing the show is that we literally get to bounce all over the world. And it's just crazy like that. I could show up in Brisbane, right? In Brisbane, Australia, literally across the world and you know, four or five hundred people showed up that know me is Just absolutely crazy. And I love doing the meet and greets. And yes, some people, they're supposed to get the one second hug. It's bled into the two second hug. And sometimes the women take it a second from the husbands who are often, usually willing to forego the second hug. But I just love, I love seeing what's going on in the other world. Comparing it to America, it's always fascinating to me how America, whether you like it or not, guys, wherever you're watching this from right now, it's still the center of the universe. I like it. If it wasn't for America leading the world, it would be someone much worse than that, likely China or Russia. And people are obsessed with our politics, our culture and everything that's going. But just to be able to go to these places and try the. I ate some kangaroo. Not as much as Connor, but I did eat a little. I did eat a little kangaroo. And we just had an absolute blast bouncing from Sydney and Brisbane and Melbourne and Gold coast and it was really just great. So In November, well, Dr. Drew, you know, my other show, we launched another show this year. On top of everything else, it's on another channel altogether. I hope you guys have tuned in. It's the actual Friends show. And the whole idea, when I had the idea of the show, it had something to do with Charlie, actually. Because what I realized was post Charlie, I was just like, you know, everybody, like, who actually are friends to people and in this space, I know all these people and some of them I am genuinely friends with. Some of them were like public friends or were just sort of colleagues or we do each other's shows. But there have been some people over the years that I've become really, really good friends with. And three of them are my co hosts on Actual Friends. They're Sage Steele, who the second I met her, it was just like, man. This is my long lost sister Jillian Michaels, very much the same way. And Dr. Drew, who put me on the first TV show I ever did probably 14 years ago. And we kind of knew each other over the years, became really close during COVID when I lived in LA. And here's Dr. Drew joining Actual Friends. I'm very appreciative of my friends who I've met in this business that actually, that actually are friends. No pun intended. I literally did not even mean to say that.
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Ben Ferguson
Yes, I admire all of you and all in different ways to admire you and Jillian and Sage. I really. And I'm so grateful that this, this we've all sort of engaged in this creative solution that came out of the craziness of the last six years. And I'm around people that are friends and I admire and I sometimes disagree with.
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Dave Rubin
And so what I'm so thankful for actual friends like you. And, yeah, guys. So I guess it's a little bit of a shameless plug, but maybe you want to jump over to the actual friends page and subscribe. It's a wonderful show. You know, I always say on the show, it's like, we really could have called it creator therapy or something like that, because it's become therapy for all of us. The whole goal was that we didn't want to. Yeah, we cover a lot of the stuff we cover here, and we do the culture war stuff. We do a little more with science because of Dr. Drew. We do a little bit of more sports because of Sage, and we mix things up a little more media. I do a lot of media here, but that's usually my specialty over there, too. Like, we do that stuff, but it really was more about, like, what are we all thinking and going through dealing with this stuff, or as we've watched other people in our space kind of go nuts, how do we manage our friendships and all of those things? And it's been really, really cathartic for me. And it's fun. It really is fun. So if you haven't checked it out, please do December. December was fun. I went to the White House Hanukkah party, and I got a shout out from this guy, Dave Rubin. So that was nice. It was in a long list of people. So, you know, I'm not saying he was just focused on me, but that was pretty freaking cool. And then we were there in December where we went over to the Rumble studio, and we just interviewed a slew of people. And, you know, this is the type of day that I love. You can see me with. There's Nancy Mace and Dan Crenshaw, who's no longer a congressman. Ro Khanna, who's completely lost his mind since then. There's Anna Paulina Luna, who is just fantastic. Marsha Blackbird. I can't see who that is in the bottom, middle one there. There's John Kennedy, who's just spectacular, and Jim Jordan, who's the woman in the middle. I actually can't. I can't see who it is on my monitor here. Is that. Who is that? Oh, Lisa McClain. Oh, Lisa McClain. Yeah, yeah, sorry, the picture is small on my monitor here. And that's the type of day that I love, even Though Iover the years. Oh, we got a couple more. There's Chip Roy, Tim Burchett and Kat Kamek. You know, even though in some ways I don't like interviewing politicians as much as I used to, I really don't. I find that even get the good ones, there's a limit to how honest they can be. It's so like. It can be just like process and I don't know, I just like other things now a little bit more. But a day like that where we literally sit in the Phoenix and I show up, the Rumble guys are fantastic. And just to have these people all walking in all day long and we do one after the other, it's just fun. It's fun and it's real and it's cool. And we got to spend some time at the Capitol and all that good stuff there in the swamp on it. It was freezing. You remember how freaking cold it was. It was freezing. Then in January, we went to El Salvador. This was about a quick, out of nowhere, day and a half trip. I did the bitcoin conference there. That's a little. I was not with Bukele in the president's office there. I love that jacket. I gotta wear that thing next time I'm on a plane. I did the bitcoin conference, gave a talk. There I am with Chris Pavlovsky as they launched the Rumble Wallet. And really the nice thing about El Salvador is that to see a country on the way up. You know, we're always talking about, you know, Europe falling apart and all the problems that we have here. But I was in El Salvador about a decade ago. My brother in law was doing some volunteer stuff there and it was third world. We had to be surrounded by armed guards. And now it was start. It was really cleaned up. As a matter of fact, we went out to dinner, I kid you not. We went out to dinner to an outdoor barbecue joint. My wallet fell out of my pocket apparently, and someone came up to me and handed me my wallet. Like in the old days, not only would they have taken the wallet, they probably would have shot us and taken whatever else was in our pockets. So it was just so nice to be in a place that is on the way up, that is innovative, that's cleaning itself up, doing things responsibly. And we've talked about maybe getting down to El Salvador for a wider trip. February. I had two of my favorite, favorite, favorite moments in February. So I went to see my man Frankie Valli one more time. And this is. I was gonna show you the video of this, guys, but we wanna keep this kinda private. But I did a video for the boys showing Frankie to them. And he said hi. Well, it was a FaceTime at first, and there's Frankie saying hi to the kids and they love, you know, I'm playing Frankie's music all the time. And they love Frankie. And he said hi, and we got to take a video of it. And they'll cherish that forever. I'll cherish it forever. 92 years old. He just announced about a month and a half ago that he's not going to be touring anymore. So I think that might have been his last ever show. That was in Tucson, Arizona in February. I think maybe he did one more show after that. But, you know, they say don't become friends or don't meet your heroes. And I've met him now several times and interviewed him and just his, you know, he just wants. I'd ask him about his career on and off camera. And he mostly wanted to talk. He said, oh, you have kids, they're dancing. Do they like music? What are they playing like? His love of his craft is what I love more than anything else. And that we got to cross paths is just so cool. And then, well, you know, I beat ESPN superstar Stephen A. Smith in basketball. Go right here. Come right here. Way downtown. All right, here we go.
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Stephen A. Smith
That's it. You win it. You win.
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Dave Rubin
You got me. He admitted I won. Now when he came on the show, what was that two months ago? He claims he won. I have two. I also beat him in a free throw contest that day. So I have two pieces of video evidence that I beat Stephen A. Smith in basketball. Now, it is true, as he said, he's a couple years older than me, and until this thing, I was playing pretty consistently. He doesn't play that often. But the cool thing about that one was that like two weeks or maybe a week before that, he did the same shootout on TNT with Kenny Smith, legendary Kenny Smith, Houston Rockets and everything. And he beat Kenny Smith and then I beat him. So that was pretty good. March. What happened in March? We went back to Hungary, which has become one of my favorite countries, and we went to cpac and I got to speak on the main stage and there I am. Obviously, that was just a nice little moment with Javier Milea. I wish we had more time. And we're working on that interview. And there I am with former Dutch, not prime minister. He was president, right? Was he former president or he was leader? Yeah, Geert Waldo. He was former president. Confirm that for me. And then Andrew Gold and a couple other people. And, you know, of course, unfortunately, there's Dinesh d' Souza and my friend Balash Orban. You know, at that moment, there was a real feeling that Viktor Orban, who has kept that small country of 12 million people, he has kept hungry for Hungarians. He's not a racist or a fascist or anything else. There was a real feeling that he was gonna win the election. He did not. And they're already now negotiating stuff with the border. Some of the woke stuff is coming in, so it's a real shame. And I suspect whenever it is that we're invited and go back to Hungary, which I would be happy to do, that it will probably not be as great, perhaps, as it was. He was the least sorry. He was the leader of the populist Party for Freedom 1. He hopes to be president or prime minister one day. Then the highlight of the whole trip was this event that I did with Eva Wladingerbroeck. And, you know, we've played many videos of her. She is just spectacular. She's a Dutch woman who has really become the face. Well, she's stunningly beautiful, so that's part of it. But it's mostly because of her ideas. She has become the face of the sort of anti. It's not even anti immigrant or anti illegal. She's become the face of sovereign nations defending their sovereignty. That is what she has become. And we did a live event at the Danube Institute over there. And it is just an absolutely. Do we have another. Maybe we can find another image for that later. Because the theater itself is just so gorgeous and big studio audience was really great. In April, the highlight, we went to Minnesota, and it was not to go to the Learing Center. We thought, maybe we'll go to the Learing Center. But I sat down with Bishop Barron and we had such a wonderful conversation. We did. First, he interviewed me for an hour on his show, and then I interviewed him for an hour on his. And if you haven't seen it, it's a really wonderful crossover. And, you know, look, we obviously come from very different places and traditions and religions, and we have different beliefs and all sorts of things. But it's the. As we. Well, as he pointed out several times, and I think you guys obviously know from watching me, it is. It's the spirit of having conversation that we both love. And that's what brings us together more than anything else. We both have a lot of very similar classically liberal beliefs and things of that nature. But I Just, he's a wonderful conversationalist. And actually on Peterson Academy right now, Jordan just posted a lecture that Bishop did that Jordan said is one of the best things that they've ever done over there. So he's just fantastic. In May, I did a whole bunch of hits in Los Angeles. Can we show the images first? Yeah, let's show the images first. So there I am with my man, Larry Elder. That was the interview where this is like two months or a month, whatever it was, before the LA election. And he said to me, spencer Pratt has zero chance. He's like, they will screw him one way or another. And Larry, he just gets everything right. And of course, there I am with Dr. Drew and Billy Bush and Carolla and Marissa Stride over at Prager U and Xavier over at Prageru. Then I did that insane jubilee thing with 20 kids who would have gladly poisoned me if they could have. That thing was completely bananas. Do we have a couple other images? I think there might have been. That's it, that's it. And then I put this video up as we were leaving la. Cause it was just, it was. The stench of weed was everywhere. The homeless thing was everywhere. We saw people doing meth and fentanyl. I, I literally saw a guy that is a 30 year, hugely successful producer in Hollywood that we've known and almost done work with over the years. But I've been to dinner with this guy not too long ago and he was successful, well dressed. You think, oh man, this guy's got everything going for him. He was now a junkie. He literally walked past me and he was a full on junkie. Like that's how bad it is over there. So I put this video up as we were walking out and this thing went crazy viral. Do you have any last words before we leave L. A? The smell of weed, the scent of urine, the zombie apocalypse, the blood, the goo, the gunk, the disgusting state of it all. It's all here. Dreams can come true for you in Los Angeles. It's a dump. It's a dump. It's a dying city. It is what it is. And you know, I don't live here anymore, so good luck with all that. Yeah, and remember that was before the election. And you guys all know Spencer, night of the election, thought he was number two nithyaraman crying concession speech. She's now in and he's out. So yes, good luck with all of that. Los Angeles June. Very obvious what the highlight was. We did our big Florida man show with Ron Desantis at The Fillmore here in Miami Beach. And we just had a great night. And about a thousand of you, I think a little bit more showed up. And it was a wonderful night. And I got the gov. He's not a tequila guy. I tried. He's a whiskey guy. So we got him some McLaren, what is it? McAllen, whatever it is. And we just had a great night. We did a live Rubin report, which again, we wrote that day, some of the greatest hits. But then stuff that was going on that day. And then I brought the Gov out, then we did the Q and A with Carolla and with Jillian Michaels, and it was just. And we had a fun after party. And I always loved meeting you guys. And people came in from literally all over the country. I'm pretty sure I met somebody from every state and people came from Canada and someone literally came from Finland. Like, it was just a great night. The other thing that was great in June was a couple days, what was this? A few days after that, actually, my buddy Bill Maher was honored at the Kennedy center in D.C. for the Mark Twain Prize in American Humor. There's me and Bill together. And again, Dr. Drew made a lot of Drew and Stephen A. Smith loomed large this year, but it was a wonderful night. And the special, they shot a special for Netflix, which I think will be up sometime in August on Netflix of the whole evening. And I have to say, look, you know, I love Bill and, you know, sometimes I poke him here and whether he ever ends up voting the way I do or not, whatever, it doesn't matter. This is someone I've admired for literally 30 plus years, who I've become a friend and a contemporary with. And to see my friend honored, I just. It was, it was truly. It was a great night. And he said two things in his acceptance speech real quick that I think are really important. You know, a lot of the comics, they were kind of roasting him before because he's a lifelong atheist and he never got married and he doesn't have kids. And he got up there at the end and he said, you know, the relationship of my life has been with my audience. And I thought that that was kind of beautiful. Like, it was kind of beautiful. He wanted to be kind of a playboy and whatever, and he didn't get married. And I don't know if he has any record regrets about any of those things. It's not even. Not even my business in some sense, even though I'm his friend. But I thought that was just a beautiful thing. And the other thing that he said that I thought was really great. And I've really taken this to heart lately. Maybe it has something to do with turning 50. Is that the thing he's most proud of in his career is that he's still doing it? And I thought that was pretty great. He's 70, but he's like. I knew so many great comics who had one HBO special and then disappeared or had three episodes of a TV show and then it got canceled or. These were the most talented guys and it never happened for them. And I know guys like that. I know guys that were insanely talented and it never happened. I know guys that were marginally talented and work hard and something happened. I could do every version of that. But I think as I look back on everything I've done now, what I'm most proud of is that I'm still doing it and enjoying it, and people are tuning in. And hopefully when I'm 70, I'll still be operating at that high level that he is. Let's get us to July in July. Well, just, what a week ago, I sat down with Internet sensation Clavicular, and I got it. This is the looksmaxing kid who. He's 20 years old, and he's known for the thing that he said he doesn't want to be known for, which is whacking his jaw with the hammer, which helps create the thing here. I have to say, first off, my team was amazing. Ridiculously excited, like it was. Except for Conor. No, Conor was not happy about it. Everybody else was very excited. You all wore fancy clothes that day, put gel in your hair, like everybody was lifts in your shoes, all the stuff. But I really enjoyed talking to him because I was like, what? He's become an Internet sensation, whether you like it or not, whether it's egomaniacal, whether it's narcissistic, whether it's. All the worst things of what the Internet could be. Focused on optics instead of spirit or whatever. You could do all that. But I found there was something kind of very honest and thoughtful about him, and I really enjoyed the conversation. Later that night, he was out in Miami and got into a massive brawl and I think was arrested. But what are you gonna do? Guys, let's talk about relief factor for a second. Because this is a show, and I have somebody hand me my relief factor on it. 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All right, we're gonna throw in a couple locals community Q and A or questions and then, yes, you can take the. There you go. Look at you crawling over here to take the relief factor away. We'll get to a couple questions and then we have a few other things that we want to hit before I give you the long and heartfelt goodbye. What's the name on this question? Olaf Phoenix. Go back. Olaf says, what was your favorite class in college? You know, that is, it's interesting. I had an interesting thing happen to me in college. I really did not like class, particularly the first year, but really the first two years I went to SUNY Binghamton in New York State school. It's a great school. But I did not like lectures. I could not pay attention. I didn't like being one of like, like 2 or probably 300 in a giant class. Like, I just, I could not do it. I just was. I would zone out, I'd be doodling. It was before, like, no, it was literally before anyone had laptops in a class. I don't know what I was doing. I was drawing nonsense most of the time. Probably concentric circles over and over again like Kamala Harris, I don't know. But so my grades actually were not great. Freshman year got a little better. Sophomore year, cause classes got a little, little smaller. Then junior year when they really started getting smaller, then my grades got better. And then senior year, my grades were fantastic because it was smaller classes, like 12 or 15 kids. And then I felt like I knew the professor. I guess that probably fully makes sense in my line of work, but the class that I enjoyed the most I took. It was my last semester of senior year. I took a class called policy issues beyond 2000. Surprise, surprise. I graduated in 1998, and it was all about all of the things that are going to be coming in the future. And I remember I had. The last thing that I had to do was give a big speech about. Well, I had to do a paper and then give a speech. And what I chose to talk about was. It's so funny because it's not even an issue anymore, but at the time, they were all talking about. About a huge, massive drought that was going to happen in the Middle East. So I wrote a huge paper on desalinization and how to make the desert bloom and all of this stuff and drip irrigation. And I remember thinking, this is one of the best things I've ever done. And I gave a really great speech. And I added in some, obviously some funny, silly stuff, as I always do. And I just love that class. And policy issues beyond 2000, which now it's 2026. And all of those issues either have been solved or we're screwed. I'm not really sure. Michelle says, what are you gonna do when the boys start going to school in August? Just take off July? You know, we've talked a lot about that because we're basically doing homeschooling right now, or we are doing homeschooling right now. So it gives us a lot of flexibility. And eventually they'll either be in school or they'll be in camp. And we're gonna have to figure out all of those things. I don't know that I have an answer on that yet. We're mostly focused on. Focused on is it's Justin's birthday next week, and we are doing a crazy Transformers birthday party. I don't think Justin watches the show. So I can probably tell you guys, I will be dressed up as starscream. We got a serious starscream. And we got some awesome toys and balloons and all that good stuff. But, yeah, we'll figure out all that stuff. Look, here in Florida, we're very, very blessed because we have good public schools schools. We've got good private schools, we've got good charter schools. There are even in our community here, there are so many good parents, great parents that are doing homeschooling, that are willing to help, that we meet at the park all the time. Pod classes, all that stuff. So we'll figure that stuff out and how it will affect our August, we shall see. Glenn says, when you were a kid, did you Think someday you would be as famous as you are today. What were your aspirations when you were 10? Gosh, when I was 10. I mean, I mentioned on the show yesterday that in my senior year boy book, everybody wrote, dave, you're gonna host the Tonight show one day. Like, there are so many comments about that over and over and over again. And while I'm not hosting the Tonight Show, I think I'm doing exactly what I'm supposed to be doing. And I guess you could say I aimed and I got. You know, it wasn't the Tonight show bullseye, which I would never want to do for a plethora of reasons, but, you know, I aimed. I got somewhere on the board right. When I was 10. I mean, when. When I was 10, what would I want to do? Honestly, it was probably. I probably wanted to be a Transformer. I probably wanted to be a Jedi or 10. So wait, how old are you? 10. You're what? You're in, like. What's that?
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Arthur Brooks
Fourth.
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Dave Rubin
Fourth grade?
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Stephen A. Smith
Yeah.
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Dave Rubin
I mean, that was like Peak Toys. I was probably still playing with he man, which, by the way, I just watched the Masters of the Universe movie two days ago. It's spectacular. If you care about any of that stuff at all, and you just want fun for two hours, and it's a little cheesy and whatever, but they did such a great job with Skeletor. Jared Leto, who. I know the guy gets a lot of crap because his movies all lose hundreds of millions of dollars. And this one did very poorly in the box office. It was just great. But, yeah. And then as far as being famous, it's a very weird thing. Well, I certainly didn't think about it when I was 10, I suppose when I was doing standup, you know, I guess I could say it this way. I've known a lot of people in this business that they really want fame, right? Like, what they want is really to be known, and you can judge that however you see fit. That really was never my goal. Like, I really wanted to do something that I thought was valuable. And then obviously, fame comes with that. And then there's great things about fame. Like, people are nice to me basically, wherever I go, and if I show go to the airport, you know, people are always going to say hi to me. People say hi to me at the. They say nice things like the Internet can be evil and toxic and everything, but real life usually isn't like that. And sometimes I go to a restaurant, they'll give me a better table, like, weird things, and then it does Also come with a cost, because one of the reasons I do August is that it can become a lot like when everything in your world is about you. So one of the reasons that I really love August is it's completely escape from that. And I'll wear a hat a lot of days and sunglasses and it just doesn't matter. Mary says if July Dave could leave one message for September Dave, what would he say? So if July Dave, if me right now can leave a message for myself in a month from now. I mean, this is kind of obvious, I suppose, but, like, just get off the grid, Let it go. Purge the stuff that needs to be purged. Be present, be with the kids. We're doing a bunch of family stuff. Enjoy the family. Like, it's all sort of obvious. But I think this year, particularly really because of the Charlie thing and then watching other people who I used to really like and respect, like Megan and Tucker and others, go so insane, like the year did something about the year, did great on me in a way that it. That it never had before. Like talking about politics. Yes, I talk about the communists and it's like. And the jihadists and it's like annoying and all of that stuff. But there was something like bizarrely personal about it this year that was kind of nasty. And I really want to like fully purge myself of that. And when I do that, then a whole. What it does really is it just gives room for some other thoughts to come in and. And I really do think that's why the show and what I do, I think, I believe that I've gotten better at over the years because I give myself a little space to get off that hamster wheel, reset, come with fresh eyes and go from there. All right, we're gonna do a couple Rubin Report Awards.
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Ben Ferguson
And.
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Dave Rubin
Well, Phoenix picked these awards. I did not pick the awards. It would be odd if I picked my own awards, but the direct message show of the year, this one was when Phoenix picked it, I was like, yes, this is obvious. So on September 10th, when Charlie died, as I mentioned earlier, we had done a show that morning. Charlie was assassinated. I think maybe around one o', clock, something like that. I was actually on air at about 12:30. I had known he was shot already, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I had known he was shot. And then I did Fox Business. And while I was literally on air, I saw my phone out of the corner of my eye saying, the Charlie crowd Kirk was dead. And I was on air live. And I remember thinking, I don't want to say it. Like, I literally did not want to say. I didn't. They hadn't said it yet on Fox Business. It was just coming across. I didn't know they had said it anywhere. I was just like, I don't want to be the first one to say it. So anyway, we finished that Fox hit and then we went live. So I have not. I don't know what clip exactly Joseph has pulled right here, but this is from. We went live. This is just a few moments after I found out. Out that Charlie was killed. But what I can tell you about Charlie, maybe that's a better way to do it. What I can tell you about Charlie is that, you know, Charlie and I met when, you know, I was kind of leaving the left, right? And then our world started colliding. Charlie was this conservative influencer with Turning Point usa, and I was kind of leaving the left. And then suddenly we were at events together. We would say hi a couple times. We definitely had big political differences because I was still. I was still a lefty in a lot of senses, you know, and he was a conservative. But we. There was an immed mutual respect there. And we did a lot of events together. And we've debated death penalty. I mean, we've debated serious stuff. We've debated death penalty multiple times on opposite sides. We've debated abortion. We've talked about gay marriage. We've done all of the stuff. And we've done it publicly and we've done it privately. We've sat next to each other at weddings. Coffee in my house about a year ago. Came by for coffee. What I know about Charlie, I'm trying to think of the last time I saw him was probably. I saw him, I think, about four or five months ago. We texted a couple weeks ago. I saw him about four or five months ago, actually, at Mar a Lago for a Prager U event. And Charlie, you know, look, he liked being in the fight. Likes being in the fight, I should say. He likes arguing. He likes making the point. He likes pointing out the hypocrisy. He likes doing all that. And sometimes he does it with a little bit of a flamethrower. Not as much as as many in the media portray him as, but he likes fighting for America. He likes fighting for what he believes in, his values and all of those things. And he did it honestly. And that's why I always liked him. I'm doing this wrong. That's why I've always liked him. Because we would always put our differences aside. Man, that's hard to watch. I was still talking about him in the present tense there. You probably noticed that. I'll just mention one other thing. I've told this once or twice before, but when I saw him that last time at Mar a Lago for that Prageru event, it was already an emotional day, that event, because Dennis had already taken his spill. So Dennis was not there. And he obviously always highlighted and spoke at these Prageru things. And Trump walked by. He eventually did come down and talk to everybody and said some beautiful things about Dennis and. And everything else. But we're in the courtyard at Mar A Lago. I wish I had a picture of this. And Trump walks by on, like, on the third level, the balcony, and he just walks by and he's waving to people. And I can so vividly picture this in my mind. It is so etched in my mind. I was standing next to Charlie. Charlie was really tall. He was probably 6 3, maybe 6 4. He was really, really tall. And I'm looking at Trump, and everyone's waving and screaming and whatever. And I'm looking, and I can see Charlie, like, right in front of me as I'm looking at Trump. And I said to Charlie, well, that could be you one day, and I will never. He goes, God help us all. That's what he said, man. I just got chills, like. That's what he said. He was humble. He was good, man. That's hard to watch. All right, let's get a little sillier for a moment. So that was our DM of the Year, which was, you know, right when we. Right beginning of September, our roundtable of the year. This is from, like, two or three weeks ago. This was just an absolutely ridiculously hilarious moment. Sort of unintentional. I was trying to be funny, but something else happened a couple weeks ago, had link Lauren and Ben Ferguson on the show, and we were talking about that gay cruise that couldn't dock in Turkey or Egypt. Why? Why would that have happened? Happened when the ship tried docking in Turkey, the government unexpectedly denied the ship entry because of what they call moral standards. All right, now, I know one of our panelists here is gay, so I want to give you a chance first. Ben, talk to me about this.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. Let me just say Google, it's a really awesome thing.
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Dave Rubin
You can Google. Did you get the joke there? You get the joke? You just ran right through it.
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Ben Ferguson
Come on,
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Arthur Brooks
Ferguson.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, yeah.
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Dave Rubin
Come on, man.
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Ben Ferguson
I was so excited to tell you to use Google. I get your joke. You want to redo that or you just going to live in this moment, Dave, you're going to live in this moment.
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Dave Rubin
We don't edit.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, yeah, we don't edit. No, I will defer to link right now and then I will come back strong with the heterosexual viewpoint on this.
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Stephen A. Smith
Please.
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Dave Rubin
Of the 2,000 guys on that boat, they are not going to come back with some come to Jesus mea culpa moment and be like, boy, maybe we've been thinking about things wrong.
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Arthur Brooks
Are they?
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Dave Rubin
No, they will not. I will answer my own question. We were going to play a little bit more of that, but we're running tight on time. But like, as far as I know, Ben Ferguson's still heterosexual. But that would have been pretty great if he had been like, you know what? I've actually had something that I've wanted to say. Okay, my favorite sit down of the year. And I'm very excited because I'm going to tell you at the end of the show some of the interviews that we've taped for August and we have this guy on again. Actually, it'll be the first interview that we're going to put up in August. While I'm off was the first interview that we did of 2026. Arthur Brooks, who is just, I think he's like, you know, if you put Jordan Peterson here and he's sort of at the pinnacle of what a public person can be and trying to bring truth and order and sanity to things, Arthur Brooks is like right beneath that. He's just fantastic. Here's a bit of the trailer of our Sit down. Down.
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Arthur Brooks
Fear, anger. This is what will actually get the attention. The attention economy actually is trying to hijack the way that our brains work. And that's the reason you see such a disconnect between the ordinary life, which doesn't get your attention. That's the point. And the fact that people are moving to more and more and more online is one of the explanations for why happiness is in decline. Everybody hates what they're looking at on their phones, but they can't stop. You know, you never met somebody who's
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Dave Rubin
a drug addict and say, you know,
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Arthur Brooks
secret to my happiness day, meth. I mean, nobody's ever said that they do the thing, even though they hate the thing. We've rewired the way that our brains work to the. To the extent that we're. We do all kinds of interesting things and never find meaning. But then what do we do is we actually have to. What used to be ordinary is now extraordinary. And that's what we have to pursue. We could lose a whole generation. Which is actually happening now for people who are 10 years younger than you and who are not falling in love. Not falling in love.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Arthur Brooks
I mean, like, what else is there to do in your 20s? That's the point of your 20s, isn't it? I mean, so at the next dinner party, no phones.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
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Arthur Brooks
And here's the first question, Dave, what are you most afraid of? And watch what happens.
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Dave Rubin
Oh,
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Arthur Brooks
right.
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Dave Rubin
I mean, you can see why I thought that was the best sit down of the year. And we did basically a follow up. So tune into that. That'll be up next week. And he literally teaches happy. He teaches a course on happiness and studies happiness through a scientific lens at Harvard. So Harvard, although it is quite rotten. He's not completely rotten because of guys like him. I think my pro, you know, I did a million every week. I probably, you know, I do the show, obviously, we do the interviews, we do all those things. And then I do media hits all the time and I'm on Fox all the time and Newsmax and all the. And I do a gajillion podcasts and we've shown you some of them. I think my hit of the year was when I did an hour with Stephen A. Smith on his show because he's very much in that Bill Maher, I'm still a Democrat thing and I'm trying to pull him over again. I don't know if it'll happen and it will not affect our friendship. It really will not. But here I am on his show trying to shine some light. Can you think of one big blue city that is thriving right now?
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Stephen A. Smith
No, I cannot. I can't say it's Chicago and that's the answer. I can't say it's la. I can't say it's New York.
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Dave Rubin
I can't say that Chicago, which has basically the strictest gun laws in the United States, has more shootings every weekend than virtually any other place. Gavin Newsom. There's a very famous video of Gavin Newsom about 15 years ago when he was mayor of San Francisco, talking about his five to ten year plan to end homelessness. And he got all the money to do it. And then it exploded in San Francisco and again has now moved that to all of California. That's what they do, right? As long as you give them power, as long as you say, okay, we will take from those people for our programs, they will pretend that they love you.
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Stephen A. Smith
But Dave Rubin, we also switch. We can flip it and we can talk about the president, Donald Trump. Right now you notice disapprove of Trump, up from 62% in January. You're engaging in a war that you said wasn't a war, that you said would never be a war because you bombed Iran in January. Last June, you got all of this stuff going on. Inflation is an issue. The economy is an issue. The border is not an issue anymore. And give him credit, credit for that, no doubt. But still, in all, 50% of Americans somewhat or strongly approved of his handling of the economy when he first came into office. And now that has plummeted and we
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Dave Rubin
get into all of that as well. So if you haven't seen that full interview, I think we posted the entire thing on our channel, but you can always check out his channel and we have some disagreements on things. And you can see I'm trying to drag him in a way and he's trying to drag me in a way. And it's done out of absolute mutual respect. And we, we will continue that as the years go by. The tweet of the year. This was rather easy. The craziest thing that happened on X. I know exactly when it happened. I was leaving Los Angeles, that trip that we talked about earlier, and I'm literally on the Jetway, I'm walking to the plane and I see this tweet pop up and it says, Dave Rubin gave him the job. I'm gonna curse. Fuck you, Rubin, you fucking douchebag. Give Reuben a loud boo next time you see him. Him. And I am not kidding. We'll show you the follow up in just a second. I had like an out of body experience. Like I was like, is this actually happening? What did I say? But it was also Ruben gave him a job. So I'm quickly in my mind going, which one of these idiots did some insane thing? I was like, what the high hell happened? And then I quickly responded. I looked at the tweet, he was talking. So I wrote, lol. I almost had a heart attack as I scrolled past this and then realized he was talking about another Dave Rubin. He was talking about the former head of Academy Motion Pictures and he's the guy that Dave Rubin is, the guy that basically instituted all the woke things. Like you have to have this many black actors and you have to have a trans gaffer and whatever. And then Elon. Do we have the follow up on Elon? Then Elon tweeted out. In case it's not already obvious, Dave Rubin of Rubin Report is cool as he cares about the truth. The other Dave Rubin of the Academy Awards needs to fix the mess he made. The best part of all this. So obviously that all went, you know, that went crazy viral and whatever, the usual stuff. But the best part of all that is I was about to get on a red eye and we were coming back to New York or we were going to New York after that. And I don't even think the plane had WI fi or on a redeye. I wouldn't even want to because I want to sleep. So it would have been very. Had I not seen that right before I got on the plane, all hell would have broke loose for 10 hours. I wouldn't have defended myself. So Elon wouldn't have even. Would likely have not even known. I saw a few people say something to him, but who knows if he would have seen it? So anyway, that was. I actually have that. One of my birthday gifts this year was. David framed it, the tweet and the response, and it's now hanging in my office. All right, a couple more questions for you before we wrap. Christine says, what is everyone most looking forward to when you all go off the grid? Well, I can't speak very, you know, I think I've illustrated. It's just a little relaxation. I don't want to mention where everybody's going, but the guys are. Are doing a lot of them are doing some pretty great traveling stuff and going home and seeing family and I assume working very hard. Every day, you'll mostly be thinking about the Rubin report, sitting in a dark room, just like, thinking about me. I don't know why it has to be in a dark room. All right, fine. You can turn the lights on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would just imagine you'd just be sitting in a dark room going, I miss Dave. He's so great. No, but, you know, one of the things that's beautiful about this is that when we. When we started this off the grid thing ten years ago, I only had one employee, Amira, who helped us start the show many, many years ago. And she couldn't believe it. She was like, what do you mean, I can take a month off? And da, da, da, da, da. And at that time, we didn't even understand about the algorithm. So I don't even think we put anything up for a month. And then it really punished us because then for September and October, if you're not putting stuff up for a month, your channel just gets crushed. So we've learned lessons over the years, but subsequently, like, you guys know, I say it all the time. I love the team that I work with, and I love the fact that I can do this for them for a month. And I don't know that anyone in any space does anything like this. And I hope that it's not. I hope, I know it is paid back in the good work that they do the other 11 months of the year. Backup never says Dave. What if the socialist commies take over Florida after DeSantis leaves in office? If Hilton wins? Because the day DOJ indicts Becerra for missing kids. I know I'm reaching, but a girl's gotta have a dream. Would you go back to Cali? Where else is there? Well, first of all, I'm never going back to California. I'm not going back to California like I am ride or die with Florida. As I've said, when I'm gone, they can just feed me to the gators in the Everglades. That'll be just fine. And people can go, Dave, the gators. Hey, Dave, here. And let's keep going on the fanboat. That'll be fine. Listen, Florida right now is set up so well for so many reasons that I, I talk about ad nauseam on the show. You know, likely Byron Donalds is going to be the next governor he's Trump endorsed. DeSantis actually has not endorsed anyone. The two great candidates we have on the Republican side, and they're both great, they really are. Byron Donalds and Jay Collins, who's our lieutenant governor. I think we're going to be just fine here. We've set things up properly. We have good police officers, our systems are strong, our institutions are strong. You know, the chasm between what is the. DeSantis always say, when he became governor, there were, I think, 400,000 more Democrats than Republicans in the state. And now it's something like 1.3 million more Republicans than Democrats. So the numbers favor us, education favors us. We're armed. But of course, as you know, good times create soft men and soft men create bad times. So I will never look a gift horse in the mouth. I'll always fight for what I think is right here and
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Arthur Brooks
here.
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Dave Rubin
I think we're going to be okay for a while. And I think that's going to be. I think that's going to be a sort of bellwether for where the country's at, that there will be certain states that do things right for the most part, certain things that really do things wrong. And the chasm will just kind of divide Nimbus. We love Nimbus. Nimbus says what part of your personality returns in August that gets crowded out during the other 11 months? There's a certain calmness, I suppose. Like, there is a certain. I say this all the time, but I am world weary. Like, I'm an optimist, but I'm world weary. I genuinely worry about the state of America and the state of Western civilization and, like, I worry about big stuff constantly. Like, I never worry about, like, little details, little, little things, business, things like that. I worry about massive things a lot.
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Ben Ferguson
Too much.
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Dave Rubin
So what I try to do during this month is genuinely just purge. As I said before, I go through the files in my brain and I just try to throw away some stuff. And I hope one of the things that's been very helpful to me is that the first couple years that I did off the grid, it was like, oh, is everyone going to forget about me? Is the world going to so drastically change? I hope I won't be with it anymore or whatever. It's like, no. Some things happen. I miss the Afghanistan withdrawal one year. I miss John McCain dying one year. I miss Kamala being announced as VP one year. Like, things happen. I missed that Cardi B song about her wet ass pussy in the bucket. I missed that thing. So there are big things. I'm not saying there aren't, but world goes on. I'll be back. And you know what asked me that question, Nimbus. Ask me that question again in September and let's see what the answer is. Let's see. John says not to throw anyone under the bus, but who in your orbit do you think would last the least amount of time going off the grid? Oh, man. What type of person that does what I do would last the least amount of time? Who's just plugged in ad nauseam and like, oh, I mean, like, Piers Morgan would crumble without all of it. Like, he's. He's just, you know, like, he's everything that I. It's just a damn shame it didn't have to be in that direction. And I tried with him and everything else, but he would crumble without the clicks. He needs the clicks to survive. Okay, let's talk a little bit about what's gonna happen here in August, and then I'll just share some final thoughts and one or two surprises real quick. So tomorrow's show, should I give him a hint?
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Arthur Brooks
You want me to tell him what
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Dave Rubin
it is, or you want to wait your decision? It's really good. Tune in tomorrow at 11am I assure you it's something we've never done before and really, really wonderful. And then as I mentioned, we have Arthur Brooks interview and we did some fun stuff with Sage Steele and a whole bunch of other people. We're doing a video. I did a whole bunch of my favorite cocktail recipes that we shot here in the kitchen. We're doing some reaction stuff where I'm going to react to some of my old videos. That crazy moment, obviously with Larry El we're going to do me and Ben our first. Here's the quick schedule. You don't have to read all that right now, but we're doing. You can leave it up for just a second if maybe they want to read it while I'm talking. Connor, come on. I interviewed Paul Saladino. All about food and health and everything else. Just some of my. When I did that thing at UNC probably or UNH, University of New Hampshire about 10 years ago, I was actually supposed to be speaking with Candace and Charlie there. They canceled cuz it was the day that Kanye said something about Candace and I got left to the wolves with these crazy protesters. We're gonna show you that video again. But my first interview with Ben Shapiro from 2016. Like we look like children. We look like children. But I'm very happy to say we're still here and Ben still qualifies as on that short list of sane people. And a whole bunch of other stuff. We're doing some of the south park reaction stuff. You'll dig it. It's a whole bunch of of stuff. And genuinely, I mean this. I want you guys to ease up on stuff too, to whatever extent you can in August. But hopefully click around, see some of the good stuff that we're putting out there and help just genuinely help us stay in the algorithm. We did a video on some of my reflections of turning 50 and a whole bunch more. Oh, and then the news blooper stuff, which I absolutely, absolutely love. Okay, so where are we? 57 minutes. And I have a few other things to wrap up before I say goodbye to the guys. So now it is my time to say goodbye to you guys. We're not going to do a post game show today. So this is my big goodbye to everybody for the month. You know, I think it is fairly obvious that I love doing this. I love doing this. I wake up every day that we're doing this and I'm happy to be doing it. I love, you know, getting that first email from Phoenix in the morning where throughout the day before usually I've sent him a million stories and then he reorders things and helps to create that narrative and Joseph helps with that. And then we get in here and we grind through all the stories and on the fly, usually five minutes before the show, I make four crazy changes to the show. And poor Connor back there has to. I don't know what he's doing, but he's always punching buttons. And I hear. Hear things exploding. And we always pull off something that I think is professional and worthy of your time. And I know, like. Cause I see it in the comments and I see what you guys say to me that we've created something here that is different than all of the other shows. I am not here to outrage you. I am not here to convince you of anything. I'm here to tell you what I think and have fun. And hopefully you're along the ride with us. And I think that somehow that. Which seems fairly obvious to me, it's just the show that I wanted to watch. That's what it is. If someone else had created the show that I wanted to watch about all of this stuff, then I probably wouldn't have done it and I could have been an NBA player. But here we are. Here we are. So I'm just so thankful for all of you that tune in every day and send us all the comments and reach out to us and communicate with us and buy tickets to the thing and that you guys have made Copal. Copal is basically first off, we've won every award we've gone for. We just won another award this year. This week. I think we've applied for six different awards. We've won all of them. And that I suddenly have a successful tequila company. That our biggest problem right now is figuring out how to scale fast enough. And we're making more tequila right now down in Jalisco. And if you have not tried it, I don't need to do promo today. It's okay. It's a wonderful, wonderful tequila. And that we started that. And that we've also started. We'll have a bit more on this, on what we're showing you tomorrow at 11am But I also started a network this year that's really been under the hood that we have not promoted publicly. But we are working with tons of people in this space building them, businesses like ours, and it's some of your favorite people. And we'll debut that a little bit more come the fall. But we have huge plans with that and it's going unbelievably well. There's another company that I started that I'm Working through. And we're just doing stuff. We're just doing stuff. And I do a lot of stuff. And then I set things up properly so that once a year for the past 10 years, I can disappear for one month and get off the hamster wheel and put this thing in a freaking safe. And yes, I do have an old phone that is virtually no apps on it, that just has so I can turn on the freaking lights in my house and, like, the air conditioner, because that's all controlled by this. Like, we've become so addicted that even off the grid, unless I was in a cabin in the middle of nowhere, you still end up on the grid one way or another. And we'll get some downtime, and as I said, we're gonna do some family stuff and a little relaxation and everything else. So I think that's it, guys. I think that is it. Thank you for watching. I am humbled and honored that you let me do this crazy thing for a living. And thank you to everybody that's in this room right now and our team that's not in this room. Chris, who's amazing, and Andrew, who just joined us. Everybody. I should mention everybody's names. And Connor, of course, in Phoenix. And Joseph and Joey and. And Christy, and everybody's just great. And did I forget anybody? I think that's everybody. Oh, and Alexa, of course, our intern, Alexa, who's amazing. Just everybody's been. And all the people who used to work for me who've gone on to great things, too. Probably not as fun things, but they're doing okay. Some of them work at the White House, actually. That's not bad. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. I will see you in September.