CNN Panel Melts Down Over Liberal Racism Against the SAVE Act

Summary

The Rubin Report – Episode Summary

Podcast: The Rubin Report
Host: Dave Rubin
Episode: CNN Panel Melts Down Over Liberal Racism Against the SAVE Act
Date: February 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dave Rubin unpacks reactions to the SAVE Act, a proposed election security bill, and explores its coverage on CNN. He delves into broader topics, such as liberal narratives around racism, voter ID laws, Western immigration crises, and recent controversy around the release of Epstein files. Rubin also discusses recent events in Australia, Spain, and Canada, connecting them to debates about immigration, national identity, and 'woke' ideology in Western politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. CNN’s Reaction to the SAVE Act and Claims of Racism

• Rubin begins by referencing a contentious CNN panel where conservative commentator Scott Jennings attempts to explain the SAVE Act—as requiring federal election voters to show ID, “like every other civilized nation in the world.”
• CNN panelists argue the law will “disenfranchise overwhelmingly a lot of people of color,” labeling it “Jim Crow 2.0” and a new “poll tax.” Dave rebukes these points, highlighting poll data strongly backing voter ID among Black and Hispanic voters.

Quote:
"[...] 76% of black voters think we should show an ID to vote. 80% of Hispanic voters, 83% of the American people. Are you saying that black voters are too dumb to know what's good for them? I mean, isn’t just that sounds pretty condescending." — Dave Rubin (04:26)

2. Debate Over Female Voters and Bureaucratic Hurdles

• He addresses Michigan Rep. Hillary Scholten's claim that “160,000 women could find themselves unable to register” due to name changes after marriage. Dave suggests common-sense solutions, mocking the idea that documentation issues should halt the act rather than motivate administrative fixes.
• He pivots to classic Rubin humor, riffing on printers, ink prices, and the triviality of technological barriers.

Quote:
"If what you said is true, and it likely is not...you create a website and you call it women who got married and are a little confused about this new bill.net and then what you would do is they could just upload a document...” — Dave Rubin (07:03)

3. Republican Holdouts & Mitch McConnell’s Evolution

• Dave exposes that four Republican senators (Murkowski, McConnell, Collins, Tillis) are not supporting the SAVE Act, despite historically touting voting security.
• He plays a vintage Mitch McConnell clip [11:27] from 1987, highlighting concerns about election fraud then, contrasting them with his current hesitance.

Quote:
“Where did the guy from 1987 go? I mean, I guess that’s what the swamp does to you.” — Dave Rubin (13:29)

4. Immigration, Cultural Clashes, and The ‘Invasion’ of the West

• Explores how Australia, Spain, and Italy are handling mass immigration, connecting societal issues and alleged crime rises with lax immigration policies.
• Rubin draws dramatic comparisons with historical waves of immigration to the US, juxtaposing images of past and present migrants and disputing accusations of racism.

Quote:
“These are all radically insane, extreme things. And Donald Trump and the Republicans and every sane American has now less than 10 months...Because if the Republicans lose the midterms...eventually the border will be open...the voting system...rigged and flooded. There will be rapists on the street. You will not know the difference between boys and girls.” — Dave Rubin (42:22)

5. Australian and European Unrest: “The West is Under Siege"

• Cites recent protests and violence, particularly in Australia, as evidence of cultural conflict and uncontrolled migration.
• Ties media framing of these incidents—such as New York Times headlines blaming the Israeli President’s visit for unrest—to broader left-wing failures to face up to the downside of mass migration.

Quote:
“And the day after October 7...there were people outside the Sydney Opera House screaming ‘gas the Jews.’ Not ‘kill the Israelis,’ ‘gas the Jews.’” — Dave Rubin (15:45)

6. The Epstein File Mess and Partisan Infighting

• Details the confusion and political jockeying over recently released Epstein files, highlighting how both sides are using the scandal for political gain.
• Plays a heated exchange between Rep. Thomas Massie and Attorney General Pam Bondi [27:48–28:30], illuminating bureaucratic redactions and accusations of cover-up.

Notable Moment:
Pam Bondi and Thomas Massie squabble over the redaction of Les Wexner’s name:
“He needs to get—You're a failed politician.” — Pam Bondi (28:19)

• Rubin observes the partisan nature of the outrage, noting Massie’s lack of outcry during the Biden years but finding his points worthwhile.

Quote:
“The problem is everyone is now using this for their political purposes. Massie does not like Trump, so he sees a reason to go after the Trump administration for this. That’s not to say he doesn’t care about the victims...But he’s using it for political purposes.” — Dave Rubin (29:55)

7. Trans Activism, Violence, and ‘Woke’ Policing in Canada

• Reports a mass shooting committed by a trans-identified male in Canada.
• Criticizes Canadian police for respecting the shooter’s “chosen pronouns,” lambasting “woke” values overriding common sense or respect for the victims.

Quote:
“Why should we be respecting someone who just murdered eight children?...While the bodies are still warm, you’ve got a police officer talking about respecting the pronouns of the murderer. Absolutely psychotic.” — Dave Rubin (37:16)

• Uses this as a launching pad to criticize “woke” ideology infecting law enforcement, politics, and media—aided by a City News AI-altered mugshot.

8. What Is a Woman? – Defining Reality vs Ideology

• Plays a U.S. congressional exchange in which Rep. Nancy Mace forces Tim Walls to define “woman,” exposing leftist discomfort with basic biology [40:20].

Quote:
“What do you want me to say? I don’t know. Boys have penises, girls have vaginas. Can we move on to hearing about the economy? Perhaps.” — Dave Rubin (40:47)

9. Even Democrats Think the Party Is Too Liberal

• Rubin highlights polling that 58% of voters now think Democrats are “too liberal,” suggesting the public is rejecting far-left politics and framing it as an opportunity for the Republican party.

Quote:
“It is extreme not to know the difference between boys and girls. It is extreme to allow people who will destroy your culture into your country. It is extreme to attack law enforcement who are just doing the very job that they were sworn in to do. Those are all extremist positions.” — Dave Rubin (42:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “[...] 76% of black voters think we should show an ID to vote. 80% of Hispanic voters, 83% of the American people. Are you saying that black voters are too dumb to know what's good for them? I mean, isn’t just that sounds pretty condescending.” — Dave Rubin (04:26)
• "If what you said is true, and it likely is not...you create a website and you call it women who got married and are a little confused about this new bill.net..." — Dave Rubin (07:03)
• “Where did the guy from 1987 go? I mean, I guess that’s what the swamp does to you.” — Dave Rubin (13:29)
• "And the day after October 7...there were people outside the Sydney Opera House screaming ‘gas the Jews.’ Not ‘kill the Israelis,’ ‘gas the Jews.’" — Dave Rubin (15:45)
• "[On immigration] This has nothing to do with skin color, guys. This has nothing to do with race. This is not racist or anything else. Why are these people coming? Because...when these people come to these countries, well, they do things like Pakistani rape gangs in Britain..." — Dave Rubin (24:00)
• “Why should we be respecting someone who just murdered eight children?...While the bodies are still warm, you’ve got a police officer talking about respecting the pronouns of the murderer. Absolutely psychotic.” — Dave Rubin (37:16)
• “What do you want me to say? I don’t know. Boys have penises, girls have vaginas. Can we move on to hearing about the economy? Perhaps.” — Dave Rubin (40:47)
• "It is extreme not to know the difference between boys and girls. It is extreme to allow people who will destroy your culture into your country. It is extreme to attack law enforcement..." — Dave Rubin (42:22)

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Key Timestamps for Segments

• Intro and show housekeeping: 01:31–03:56
• CNN Panel and the SAVE Act debate: 03:56–06:47
• Married women voter claim & printer as metaphor: 06:47–09:45
• Mitch McConnell through the years: 11:27–13:29
• Immigration crises in Australia, Spain, Italy: 14:20–21:45
• Epstein files, Pam Bondi v. Thomas Massie: 27:48–31:37
• Trans shooter, pronouns, Canadian ‘wokeness’: 36:52–40:20
• Congressional debate: What is a woman?: 40:20–41:56
• Voter polling on Democrats, wrap-up: 41:56–44:44

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Episode Takeaways

• Rubin frames voter ID debates as common sense, not racist, and criticizes media-manufactured outrage.
• The SAVE Act is painted as a rational measure, with opposition interpreted as patronizing to minorities or motivated by political opportunism.
• Draws direct lines from Western Europe and Australia’s immigration debates to U.S. border and voting controversies.
• Warns about ‘woke’ values eroding common sense in policing, media, and public discourse.
• Argues bipartisan interest in the Epstein case is more about damaging Trump than seeking justice for victims.
• Closes by declaring the Democratic Party as out of touch with mainstream America, forecasting dire consequences if Republicans fail to act.

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Tone:
Wry, combative, unapologetically partisan, brisk, and peppered with pop culture and personal jokes—true to Dave Rubin’s usual style.

Transcript

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[A]

Previously on the Rubin Court. They're grabbing people on the streets. They dip them in some soy sauce, little wasabi, send them back to Africa.

[B]

I absolutely have confidence in our courts.

[A]

They are puppets short of someone having their hand in their ass. Can I cut? I do declare this is an unjust ju. All right, guys. I'm Dave Rubin. This is the Rubin Report. It is Friday the 13th. That's right. It's Friday, February 13th, 2026. And we're not going to scare you. You know, we thought, all right, there's a lot of different ways we could SC people. We could just show just out of nowhere, a picture of Jamiah Priyapal could just pop up on the screen and freak out. But we're not gonna do it. We're not gonna do it because you know what? We are running three minutes late today. I apologize it's on me. I changed about five things in the rundown today. Just in the last five or six minutes on the fly there's a whole bunch of stuff happening so let's just dive in. It's just a jam packed show. And actually I was supposed to be joined this morning by co host Aaron Milan who if you haven't seen her, she's out of Australia. She's just fantastic. I had her in studio here a couple weeks ago. She's back in the States but she's really, really under the weather right now. So we, we shifted a few things. We're going to talk a bit about Australia and connected to the immigration situation. Obviously we're talking about the SAVE act and a little bit from this Epstein hearing yesterday and a whole bunch more. But let's start with Scott and the because Jennings as usual trying to make sense with the people, a bunch of people who are less than bright over on cnn and here he is just trying to explain that the SAVE act, all it is is that you will have to prove who you are to vote in a federal election in the United States like every other civilized nation in the world. But somehow the other CNN people think that that's right. What voting rights is he taking away from black voters?

[D]

Oh, if we look at the Save the SAVE act, that's exactly what we're talking about. That is actually going to continue to disenfranchise overwhelmingly a lot of people of color. There are so many civil rights organizations that have run the data. If we look at the way that it is going to disenfranchise black voters. It's the same reason why Chuck Schumer called it Jim Crow 2.0. So this is the same president. If we want to continue I am talking about it. It's the way that you're putting new poll taxes on this when you're making people have that's what we can call them now. It's a, it's kind of an idiom.

[A]

Right? You're making all these claims, you've yet to lay out how it's hurting anyone. But 76% of black voters think we should show an ID to vote. 80% of Hispanic voters, 83% of the American people. Are you saying that black voters the save dumb to know what's good for them? I mean isn't just that sounds pretty condescending. Three quarters of oh lordy, lordy, here we go. First off, I do want to note that the other day I offered up this Hewlett Packard printer. This Thing's basically untouched. We bought an extra printer for the studio. And you know, because Kamala Harris said that black people don't know where Kinkos are, people in rural areas don't know how to get these things. Nobody has claimed this thing. I am trying to give this to some black rural person who cannot get to a Kinko's, which I am now told has folded into Office Max or something like that or it's part of Staples or something. Kinko's doesn't even exist. You know, you blink one day, all the stores of your childhood are gone. So they're gonna tell me that service merchandise has gone next or Kaldor man, if any of you are getting these references today, points for you, I got a lot of 20 year olds who don't know what the hell I'm talking about half the time anyway, I want to give this printer to a black person, so please email me. So Scott, perfectly once again just illustrates these people have no idea what they're talking about. They do use a lot of words to say nothing. So she talks about disenfranchisement as no evidence of it. She talks about Jim Crow 2.0 that Chuck Schumer said. Well, we read what the Jim Crow laws were a couple days ago and as you know, this has nothing to do with Jim Crow. There will be no Jim Crow. There will be no two tiered system of justice or anything else. Everyone would have to show the same information. It would be completely colorblind. She then calls it a poll tax and it's an idiom. Well, she's an idiot, but okay idiom. And then the best part of it, Scott then points, points out 76% of black voters support this, which they showed that poll on CNN itself. And then that dim ding dong like she is just that Abby Phillips, she is just the worst. Anyway, let's, let's continue. Here is Michigan representative Hillary Schlatton claiming that the act, this save act, which again will just ask you to prove who you are when you vote in elections. It's going to stop married women from voting.

[D]

In Michigan's third district alone, 160,000 women could find themselves unable to register simply.

[E]

Because when they got married they didn't.

[D]

Change both their ID and their birth certificate.

[A]

Okay, okay, first off, I'm going to read something funny. This is by a guy named Matt Van Swall. He's, he was a former lib, says a sort of similar political trajectory as I am. He's a good follow on X. He wrote if there's anyone who's going to be disenfranchised by the saved act, it's married men. I promise you, if you ask any married man today where his birth certificate is, he will say exactly this statement. I have no idea. Ask my wife. All right, so that's funny. But the reality, let's say she's right. That there's 160,000 women in Michigan who, because they change their name when they get married, that the documentation wouldn't be exactly what they're asking for in the SAVE Act. First off, I don't even know that that's true, but let's pretend that's right. Well, if that is right, I'm really trying with you people today. You know, it's a Friday, got the weekend coming. I'm gonna really try to do the devil is do thing here. If that is true, then why does that stop you from wanting secure elections? Wouldn't you then say, okay, so we have found out that 160,000 women, you know, because they change their name when they get married. There might be some confusion here, so we've decided to create a fund or there will be some government program. So a woman who has gotten married, all she would have to do is scan. And once again, you could maybe use this beautiful compact printer. You know a printer, you can get a printer for like 60 bucks. But they get you on the ink. You know that, you know, the printer ink. Someone do a Google on this. Printer ink per ounce is like 50 times more expensive than oil per ounce. Did you know that fact? That's why they give you the printer real cheap. And then they get you with the oil. Those. They get you with the ink. Those bastards. Somebody get me the numbers on that. But that would be the point. If what you said is true, and it likely is not that they're. Yes, they're trying to stop married women from voting. Like, everyone knows this has nothing to do with that. But even if we were pretending that is true, then all you have to do is just figure out a very simple way. You create a website and you say, you call it women who got married and are a little confused about this new bill.net and then what you would do is they could just upload a document that would show their original ID and upload a document that showed they got married and da da ding da da doo. Printer ink. What are you telling me here? Printer ink is what, 13. What? $13 to $850. Printer ink is $13. Wait, what are you telling me here? Printer ink is $13 for 850 per ounce. What does that mean? Ranges from 13. Oh. Printer ink could be anywhere from $13 to $850 per ounce. Oil is a couple cents per ounce. You see what I'm saying? It's big ink that's been screwing us. Everybody's all right. So the other thing here is that Republicans, what do I always tell you? Democrats suck and blow and Republicans just suck. And this is their chance. This is their chance to save the country right now. Because we are going to face. No, not going to face. We are now facing a party in America that wholly has been corrupted, that is here to destroy every norm and flood this country with new voters. That is a fact. That is not conspiratorial or anything else. So the Save America act, all it is asking, once again, is that in federal elections, you will have proper documentation to prove who you are, which, again, we all know you should have. You should not be able to just walk into a polling place and say, I'm Todd Gack and I live over here, and let me go, Todd Gack. It's a Seinfeld reference. And I can't even remember who he is exactly. But anyway, I'm doing a lot today. Doing a lot. I can feel it. Right now. We only have 49 Republicans who have signed on board this thing. So The Republicans have 53 senators, as you know, but there are four who have not voted for it. You need a simple majority. That's how this thing could go down. The four who are the holdouts right now are Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Susan Collins of Maine, who I think has basically said she's just definitely not in. And Tom Tillis of North Carolina, Elon tweeted this. Only two more senators and America gets a new lease on life. So we've got to get this thing to 51. Now we're going to show you. I mentioned we added a couple things right before the show started. So we're going to play this video. I might cut it in the middle as we're watching, but Mitch McConnell, who, if. I mean, he's the swampiest creature in swamp town, he's such a swamp creature that he literally started looking like a turtle over the years. Here he is in 1987. I'm not a mathemagician, but that's about 40 years ago, where he was concerned with voter fraud.

[F]

Mr. President's election day in Kentucky. And I suspect on this election day, as on many election days over the last hundred years or so in some areas of my state, people are attempting to buy votes, sell votes, intimidate voters and in general distort the election process. Earlier in my life I taught on a part time basis a course called American Political Parties and Elections. We talked about with the students the election fraud problems in some areas of this country. It is clearly not a problem everywhere. But in certain areas of our country, particularly rural one party areas in the south and in certain big cities in the Midwest and in the north, again places where one party tends to dominate, this is an ongoing problem.

[A]

Okay, so that's about a three minute video. We're gonna cut it there. But you know what, in the, in the description we will, we'll link to the full video so you can see the extended portion of that. I just don't wanna spend three minutes on that. But there's a man who in 1987, as a Republican was sane. And he was laying out, by the way he's laying out things that ironically the Democrats are sort of saying now that maybe there's issues in rural areas or da da, da da da, where one party has control over here. So what you would want to do if to the extent that any of those things were true then and are true now, is make sure that everyone has an id, just like people have an ID when they get on a plane and when they do literally buy a six pack of beer or anything else. But the issue is that now I don't know really like, I don't know what truly, truly is going on in the mind and the heart of Mitch McConnell, but he is simply on top of everything else, after four years of watching Joe Biden, he is simply too old and incompetent to be a senator. And yet he is. I mean there's a million videos of these. I'm not, I'm not even showing this for sarcasm or glibness or humor or anything else, but.

[E]

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[A]

Okay, so genuinely, I mean it, I'm not showing that for humor or we didn't add a sound effect or like nothing, right? But, but that man who seems like he should be an old age home, right, does not seem like he should be not only a senator in the United States, but now basically one of the last four remaining people after a 50 some odd year Republican career. He's one of the last holdouts against making voter id, which is an obvious slam dunk win and something that we have to have. If this country is going to continue, it's in the hands of that guy right there. Where did the guy from 1987 go? I mean, I guess that's what the swamp does to you. We will find out now, of course, the problem with all this. So we'll see. Maybe we'll get some breaking information over the next 45 minutes or so. If any of these senators change, we shall see. But pray, I mean, genuinely, you better. You better pray. And if you're in Kentucky, you may want to make a call. Or if you're in Alaska or one or two other states where you might have some influence over your senators, because if we do not get this, what has happened to Europe will happen here. The invasion of Europe, which, as I always say, Western Europe is cooked. Eastern and Central Europe will largely be okay. They have let in too many people. They are in a cultural clash, and I don't see a way for them to get out of it. But it's not just Europe, actually. Australia has become a strange barometer of all of this, too. And when we were there about three months ago, it was very obvious that they had a massive immigration problem. They have a massive Islamist problem. And just a few weeks after we were in Australia, just steps away from actually where we were in Sydney, was this horrific jihadist shooting at a Hanukkah party where I think they killed about a dozen people. So the Israeli president, Isaac Herzog, visited Australia over the last two or three days. First off, this headline from the New York Times, how the Israeli president's visit to Australia created a tinderbox is Isaac Herzog's trip led to widespread rallies and tested the restrictions on protests that Australia installed after a deadly attack on a Jewish celebration. I mean, first off, that the president's visit created the tinderbox. That's not the tinderbox. A president from any country visiting another country isn't the tinderbox. The tinderbox is that you have let in hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people into your country. In this case, I'm talking about Australia, who are not Australian and wish to destroy Australia and are making it very clear. And the day after October 7, before Israel had even sent one troop into Gaza, when they were still trying to figure out how many of their own were dead. And it was about 1400, there were people outside the Sydney Opera House screaming, gas the Jews. Not kill the Israelis. Gas the Jews. Sixteen people died in that Bondi beach shooting, by the way. There were 40 injuries. And the reason I'm showing You this. Well, I was gonna have Aaron in here, who's obviously Australian, to comment on it. But it's also because if we don't deal with what we are dealing with now of Trump closing the border and getting these people out and making sure they don't come back and cleaning up our cultural rot, it will all happen. So here are these quote unquote Australians protesting Isaac Herzog in Melbourne.

[C]

He was just praying Madhv and these bastards behind us picked us up and said it's time to go. What happened to freedom of religion? What happened to freedom of speech?

[A]

Okay, listen to me, you little jihadist. There are some about 50 Muslim countries, I think, and in those Muslim countries, it's not good. No matter what Tucker Carlson tells you when he's in Saudi Arabia where there are no churches, it's not good for Christians, There are no Jews left in any of those lands. It's not good for Baha', I, it's not good for atheists, it's not good for liberal Muslims or anything else. These people. Who's occupied? Who's occupied? I would argue that it's Australia who is occupied by those thousands of people who are holding the flag of a nation that never existed, which is designed only to destroy nations that do exist. And then they are using. They come, they don't. You think that kid, that guy cares about freedom of religion? You think he would offer anyone else freedom of religion when they have it their way? When they take over Australia, you think they're going to be like, we're going to make it really good for the Christians and the Jews? No, that is not how it is going to be. So until the Western world gets serious about this stuff, it is going to keep falling on the sword until the Western world decides that suicidal empathy ends with suicide, which it does. This is going to keep happening. Well, hopefully. I don't have much hope for Western Europe. Hopefully Australia, which has geographic benefits because they're a giant island and you could kick people off and make sure they can't get on a boat back. Hopefully they're going to do something. Here they are clearing out some of these jihadists in Sydney. Guys, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Get out. Leave Australia. Why do you feel the need to do that in the middle of a street in Australia? We saw it all over this. That that happened to be Sydney. We didn't much of it in Sydney. We saw a ton of it in Melbourne, but we saw these booths where they want to convert people. We saw These guys all over the place in Melbourne. We were told our show was on a Saturday that weekend. For whatever reason they had moved. They have a weekly giant Hamas protest there that closes down the entire city and people basically just don't leave their houses. That's what everyone was telling us there. Is that Australian. Where's Mick Dundee? Right? Like, is that. Where's Bluey? What did they do to Bluey? Don't ask. Where the hell happened to Bingo? Probably in a. Some kind of. Keep it clean. This is not good. This is not good. And it's happening all over the place. And if you think the reason I'm showing you this is. If you think this is disconnected from what is happening in our country, where the Democrats flooded the border and now want to make sure that those illegals can vote. These things are deeply connected. I'm telling you. They're deeply connected. Meanwhile, what's going on in Spain is beyond imagination. If you think Australia is wacky and what we've seen in Europe is wacky, well, Spain is obviously part of Western Europe. They have decided the new prime minister of Spain, who is. He's a lefty, progressive whack job and he has completely opened their borders. He let in 500,000 of these people basically to say that he wants to stop the far. This was his argument. He wants to stop the far right in his country. So he let in 500,000 of these people from 19 North Africa and the Middle east into Spain. We'll see how much they enjoy sangria and the little nap in the afternoon. But now there are more and more and more coming. And you tell me if these people seem like they're going to fold into the fabric of Spain and in just a little sangria before a siesta. You know, I've never been to Spain actually, and I'm probably never going to Spain because Spain is going to fall. You got a screenshot of that. Look at these guys. Are these refugees? Did these strike you as refugees? Look at these guys. They all have fresh haircuts. They all have. I think we got a picture here. Look, everybody. Fresh haircut, fresh smiles, freshly shaven, new clothes. Can you. Any women and children there? Any women and children there? No. Guy about 20, 20, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40. What are they doing when they get to Spain? What do you think they are going to do? And it's not just Spain. Look at this. This is from Italy, where this one is so disappointing on so many fronts because Giorgia Meloni, when she was elected about Three years ago. I mean, her whole thing was, I'm trump, we're closing the border and everything else. She has let in a ton of these people. And check out what's going on in Milan. Fashion capital of the world, Milan. Devil wears Prada. Devil wears Prada, too. I just saw the preview. Looks terrible, but, well, the devil showed up in Milan. Take a look.

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[A]

Now, unless those guys are learning how to flip pizza, okay, this is not going to end well for you, Ital. And might I point out that we can all be empathetic and we can all be sympathetic to refugees, but not again. It's all military aged fighting men with bad ideas who are coming. Where are the women and where are the children? We snagged a couple images. Look at this. These are 1920s. What you're seeing on the upper left there, that is a boat that was coming from Italy to Ellis Island. Look at those women. Look at those women. Okay, do they look. Were they going to be a real danger to America when they were coming and bringing their old world ways of cooking and that. You got to slice the. The. The garlic really thin for the sauce. What you're seeing on the upper right is a bunch of Jewish children coming from Eastern Europe. And then the bottom is a boat. I'm not sure where they're from. I mean, it definitely is. It's probably eastern Europe, but that's all coming to Ellis Island. And look, it's children. Look. Why are they. No one is really happy, even though they're about to come to the land of freedom. There's one girl smiling over there with the American flag interestingly and juxtaposed. Give me that. Now give me the other image that we just took of the guys on the boat. And this has nothing to do with skin color, guys. This has nothing to do with race. This is not racist or anything else. Why are these people coming? Because the evidence over the last 20 years is when these people come to these countries, well, they do things like Pakistani rape gangs in Britain where they've raped 250,000 British girls and nobody's doing anything about it. And if anything, Keir Starmer, the now Prime Minister, has been part of a cover up as it relates to that. And they come in and they decide, like we just showed you in Sydney, they should just take over the streets whenever they want and they can pray whenever they want and all of those things. It's crazy. And by the way, it will not stop with that. It will enter every little facet. There is this girl, her name is Nurdine Keswani. She is a Palestinian, Palestinian activist, CUNY law student. And she's, you know, embedded in all of these crazy protest people out there. She wrote this, which got a lot of people upset because people can deal with their cities burning down and all the rest, but, you know, you come after the dogs, you got a problem. She wrote this yesterday. Finally, New York City is coming to Islam. Dogs definitely have a place in society, just as. Just not as indoor pets. Like we've all said along, they are unclean. I mean, like, fuck off, bitch. Honestly, like, you're gonna come for the dogs. You might have finally done something that will wake up the people of New York City, right? Like there are like, if you live in New York City, get a dog, get a dog. Scare a jihadi. That should be a. That should put that on a bumper sticker and sell it. Like, enough, guys. Enough, enough, enough. How do I transition? Watch this transition. Let's talk about the Epstein hearings that were yesterday. They brought Attorney General Pam Bondi out. And you know, Pam, I think if there's anyone that has screwed up some of the messaging around all this, it's Pam Bondi. You know, a few months ago when Pam went up there and she gave that press conference and she said, I've got the files on my desk that day. You can go back to our show that day. And I said, I don't know what she means by that. Did she mean she had like a binder full of things and it's got all the pictures, it's got all of the flight logs, it's got all of the emails and evidence that here are the people that did some things and now we're gonna go get them, or was it just a file? Meaning it's got all of this code information, some of which may true, some. Some of which may be true, some of which may not be true. It might have names of people who quite literally just had lunch with the guy or took A donation. And then it might have the names of the people who did the horrible things, but does, like, there's just so many layers of craziness. But when she said. When she said that thing that I've got the binder. And then, of course, there was the other moment where they brought, like, you know, eight or so influencers, some of whom I know, they brought them to the White House and they handed them the binders, and it turned out there was basically nothing in them. Some of the blame around, the confusion around this does fall on her. Anyway, there was a hearing about the Epstein files yesterday, which the Trump administration, not the Biden administration, not the Obama administration or anything else. Trump has released 3 million of the documents related to the Epstein situation. Remember we showed you a video a few days ago where, when Trump was president the first time, Anderson Cooper was saying, there's nothing here. There's nothing here. There's nothing here. Because they thought it might get the Democrats. Now they think it might get the Republicans. But it's, as Trump is pointing out, this is gonna probably go the other way anyway. Thomas Massie, who is no fan of Donald Trump, he is a libertarian on the right. I've had him on the show many times. But he's been pushing a lot of this. This release here. He is pressing Bondi on who obscured the name of former Victoria's Secret CEO Les Wexner. And you'll see how it connects to just the confusion around all of this. Are you able to track who it was that obscured Les Wexner's name as a co conspirator in an FBI document? Do you have that kind of accountability?

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I believe Wexner's name was listed more than 4,000 times about.

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I had.

[A]

Yeah, I already told you that. This is where he's listed as a co conspirator.

[E]

Let me finish my answer. Come on, let me finish my answer. We corrected that. Within 40 minutes, he was already. You're acting like everybody's trying to cover up Wexner's name. Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back.

[A]

Within 40 minutes of me catching you red handed.

[E]

Red handed. There was one redaction where he's listed.

[A]

As a co consent.

[E]

And we invited you in. This guy has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to get. You're a failed politician.

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Please restore his. All right, all right. This is messy. Like, so Bondi there at the end. This guy has Trump derangement syndrome. Now him and Trump are fighting all the time. That. That kind of is True, I suppose. But like. Or this guy's a failed politician. Like, that's not a good look here, lady. Like, she's. He's asking you something legit, which is that why is this guy's name redacted? She points out, hey, once we found out his office called them and asked a little bit more, they did. Unredacted. Okay, so it, so it just leaves a million questions. Were they trying to protect this guy, blah, blah, blah. But now there is a little more evidence or there's a little more subtext to this story. This is from Massey on Twitter. This is a well known retired CEO. DOJ should unredact this. Why did they redact it? So he's talking about this Les Wexner guy. And then Todd Blanche, who's the deputy Attorney general, he wrote this. The document you cite has numerous victim names. We have just unredacted Les Wexner's name from the document. But his name already appears in the files thousands of times. DOJ hides nothing. So Massie was really going crazy that they redacted this guy's name in this one file, even though it was in all these other files. And they were obviously redacting the names of the victims for obvious reasons. So the problem, the problem with all this, I mean, obviously something horrific happened and everyone that did something that is illegal and horrible needs to be dealt with. The problem is everyone is now using this for their political purpose purposes. Massie does not like Trump, so he sees a reason to go after the Trump administration for this. That's not to say he doesn't care about the victims. I believe he does. But he's using it for political purposes. How do we know that? Well, we checked right before the show. For the four years under Joe Biden, Thomas Massie not once brought anything up to the floor about, about Jeffrey Epstein. We knew about all of this from way back when, starting really in the Obama administration. However. So I'm really trying to do this as honestly as possible. However, Massie is making points that do make sense. Look at this. A sultan seems to have sent this. DOJ should make it public. And the email says, and it's to Epstein. I am in China and will be in the US the second week of May. Epstein says, where are you? Are you okay? I love the torture video. Thomas Massie then put up on X. In response to my posts on X today, DOJ unredacted an FBI file that labels two individuals as co conspirators. Unredacted a file that lists several Men who might be implicated tacitly admitted that Sultan Ahmed bin Salman was the sender of the torture video. So again, this is why this is all so messy. So, Massey, I'd be happy to have you on the show and ask you why you didn't care about this for the four years that Biden was in charge. You happen to be a Republican. But again, if this is just about the victims, that's one thing. And that's to the backdrop of here, he is pushing them a little bit more. And now we're finding out that this Sultan apparently was involved in some sort of torture video with Epstein. Like, okay, so let's find out who he is. And it's just freaking messy. Now, the clip that really went viral from all of this was this right here.

[E]

You sit here and you attack the president. And I am not going to have it. I'm not going to put up with it. You know, all they want to do, all the American people need to know this. They are to going talking about Epstein today. This has been around since the Obama administration. This administration released over 3 million pages of documents. Over 3 million. And Donald Trump signed that law. And none of them, none of them ask Merrick Garland. Over the last four years, one word about Jeffrey Epp. How ironic is that? You know why? Because Donald Trump. The Dow. The Dow right now is over. The dow is over $50,000. I don't know why you're laughing. You're a great stock trader. As I hear Raskin, the dow is over 50,000 right now. That's what we should be focused on. All the great work that this president has done and will continue to do to keep America safe and to make Americans safe.

[A]

Okay, so there's a lot here. And what's. I guess, you know, the most upsetting part of this is the horrific things that we believe happened. Right. Obviously, the other part of this that is grotesque is the way everyone is using it for political purposes, which is why I'm trying to show you that people in this are doing good things and kind of doing shady things at the exact same time. So the reason that went viral was because that's. She's right to some extent. Like, should we all be focused on all the great things the Trump administration is doing? Obviously, yes. Is that what I do on this show every day for the last 14 months of his presidency? Of course it is. And there are wins and wins and wins and a lot of reasons to think things could continually get better, especially as it pertains to the economy. But that's not to say we shouldn't be looking at this, right? So that's why that clip kind of went viral. But she does bring up the point, where were all of you? She's. She called him Raskin, but that was, she was talking to the little penguin guy, Nadler, and it's like, where were all of you? So Nadler, you're a Democrat and Massie, you're a Republican. Well, for four years under Joe Biden, you didn't ask for any of this. You guys didn't ask for it under Obama. Right? It started getting hot again under Trump one because you guys thought it could get pinned on Trump. Then it disappeared for four years under Biden and now it's coming out again under Trump. But out of all of the stuff that's coming out right now. So Trump is the only president, right? If you look at the last three presidents, Trump the only one to do anything about it. He's given you guys a lot of what you want. And I don't know why there are some of those redactions. Like, I don't know, you have every right as a congressional, as a member of Congress to have those private meetings to figure out some of that stuff and maybe they are gonna make some mistakes. So if they redacted the guy's name in one thing and then Massey pushes them on and they unredact it, well, okay, that's pretty good. But clearly a huge portion of what's going on here is the reason that the Masseys, who are, let's say, libertarians that don't like Trump because of foreign policy, the reason they're on the same side as the lefties right now, like say the Ro Khannas and the rest of Nadler and the rest of them, is because they all think this can damage Trump. That's obvious. Like, I hate to be cynical in that sense, but it's obvious they were demanding this all get released under Trump and not under Biden, cuz they thought it was going to get Trump. Well now every day more and more evidence comes out that Trump is the only one who's looking clean on any of this. Listen to this from Forbes. Trump reportedly called police about Epstein in 2006 and said Giselle Ghislaine Maxwell was evil. And we do know that Trump banned Epstein from Mar a Lago, that he called the Palm beach police on him, et cetera, et cetera. So it's just freaking messy. Politics makes strange bedfellows. But you know, it's sort of like when a Republican, you Know, like when a Liz Cheney type, when they start going Democrat and then they start getting loved by everybody on cnn. That's a flag in my mind, right? And I would say this is a flag as well. It's a flag when people on the left and the right who disagree on everything, when they suddenly agree on something and the thing they agree on seems to be because they can get Trump. I would, I would put a flag on that. And for the last time, I said it three times. I would just reiterate it one more time. That is not a dismissal of any of the horrible things that these people did. And if there is evidence of any of it, these people need to go to jail. So let's put that there. Let's connect. Well, again, this is a strange Segway show today, but we're going to move now. Let's go north of the border for a moment because it is worth. It is worth covering for several reasons. There was this horrific shooting at a school in Canada and it was a trans activist who did it, meaning it was a biological male who was on drugs and going through the process of pretending they were a female. That's basically the best way I can say it. And to the backdrop of how many people were murdered? I think 10 people were murdered and another 15 injured. We'll get you the exact number on that. To the backdrop of that, the Canadian police, you want to talk about suicidal empathy, are going out of their way to respect the gunman's preferred pronouns.

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We're not hiding it. In fact, you're the first media to ask the question. I will say this. We identify the suspect as they chose to be identified in public and in social media. I can say that Jesse was born as a biological male who, approximately the information that I have, approximately six years ago, began to transition to female and identified as female both socially and.

[A]

How profoundly pathetic. Eight were killed, by the way. How profoundly pathetic. First off, you can't transition from a male to a female. What you can do is be a male who identifies as a woman, right? You can identify however you want, but it doesn't change biological reality. So. And also respect. Here's a bit more important point. Respect is a two way street. If someone gives you respect, you can give them respect back. If you respect someone and they keep spitting in your eye, you don't have any self respect. So why should we be respecting someone who just murdered eight children? Eight children. Why are they respecting that guy? Say what it is. It's a guy who did this. It is a guy who was going through some sort of psychological condition, believed they were a female, was doing some things to alter their physical nature to come off as a woman, but is not a female. And the fact that the police are spending even one second thinking about pronouns. This room, I'm telling you guys, we should find it. We'll play it next week. You can find a video that we did back in. It must be 2016. And I had Pete Bogosian on, who is a great. He was a professor up at Portland State University, was deeply embedded. He was an old school liberal deeply embedded in Portland. Like the crazy lunacy of Portland 2016. I actually did a speaking event with him that year. That was the first day I met Andy Ngo, who was a student there, who has now become really the main journalist exposing so much of this leftist nonsense. And Andy antifa on campus. And Pete said something that has stuck with me since, which is once you let woke into the system, it will destroy the entire system. And that's a perfect example of it. While. While the bodies are still warm of these children. Children, you've got a police officer talking about respecting the pronouns of the murderer. Absolutely psychotic. But the psychosis is everywhere. Look at this. Canada media outlet City News uses an AI filter to make the Tumblr Ridge killer look female. They literally took the image of the guy who was, you know, pretending or whatever you want to say to be a woman. Look at that first picture. He's a little sallow and dark and whatever. And what did they do? They AI. They tuned him up. They filtered him to look a little more female, a little brighter. The lips are a little redder, like, what? What? And you might say, dave, none of this matters. It just doesn't matter. He can call himself whoever he wants. The police can call themselves whoever they want, except this thing has leaked into every part of society, everywhere. There was a hearing yesterday. If the founding fathers knew that 250 years later we would be debating gender pronouns. It's just absolutely insane. Actually, sorry, this is a few months ago, but it's worth showing again because it connects to all of this stuff. Here is representative Nancy Mace asking Tim Walls, what is a woman?

[H]

Okay.

[A]

What is a woman?

[I]

I.

[A]

What is a woman? Is the question. I'm. I'm not sure I understand the question here that. What. What do you want me to say? This is. I want you to say that a woman like me is an adult human female. That men can't become women. You guys are the party of violence.

[E]

And you're the party erasing Women, you don't respect us.

[A]

You're a bigot, you're a misogynist, you're a sexist. Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I mean, Nancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that guy is also in a massive fraud scandal involved in Minnesota where he's now no longer running for governor. He's also been the one of the head cheerleaders of the anti ice attacks. Also. His answer? Not sure I understand the question. What is a woman, Connor? Is your girlfriend a woman? She is. She is. Absolutely sure. Okay. And if someone said to you the second answer, what do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? I don't know. Boys have penises, girls have vaginas. Can we move on to hearing about the economy? Perhaps. But to tie this all together show is a little jumpy. To tie it all together. Even the bananas, lunatic, brain broken, psychotic, degenerate, wackadoodle, mentally ill Democrats think that their party has gone too far. Enjoy.

[I]

What about all Americans, right? How about all voters? Voters who say the Democrat are now too liberal. Look at this percentage. It was 42% in 96, 48% in 2013. Now 58% in 2025 of all voters say that the Democratic Party is too liberal. The Democrats are moving to the left. The far left is gaining power. And there could be some electoral repercussions because what we see right now is voters, the clear majority, say that they are too liberal.

[A]

This is really interesting. So basically 60% of people think the Democrats have become. It's not liberal. They are not liberal. But I can't keep def the word. They have become too extreme. And it is extreme not to know the difference between boys and girls. It is extreme to allow people who will destroy your culture into your country. It is extreme to attack law enforcement who are just doing the very job that they were sworn in to do. Those are all extremist positions. And it's also extreme to have, I don't know, a voting system that doesn't check who the voters are. These are all radically insane, extreme things. And Donald Trump and the Republicans and every sane American has Now less than 10 months, you know, basically nine months to secure these elections, make sure the border's taken care of, get the deportations done and everything else. Because if the Republicans lose the midterms, they will eventually. It won't happen under Trump, but eventually the border will be open. Eventually the voting system will be completely and utterly rigged and flooded. There will be rapists on the street. You will not know the difference between boys and girls, cats and dogs will be fighting on the street, although apparently not in New York City because they're going to ban dogs. It's gonna be screwy. Guys. I'm very excited because next week. So next week's President's Week and years ago, I think we actually did it for two or three years, but we did it around 201718 for President's Week, we did a different show about a different president all five days of the week. And that's what we're doing for next week as well. We're covering a bunch of the presidents. We've got Glenn Beck doing it. We've got Andrew Clavin doing it. We've got Jeffrey Sachs. Jeffrey Sachs. We've got Jeffrey Tucker, Michael Knowles. It's just a great, like if you just want to escape, I thought for President's Week we could just escape a little bit of the mundanity of the day to day politics and just get back a little thoughtfulness on what our founders were up. Not all our founders. We do one on Reagan. We do. You'll see. It's really, really interesting. We shot them all already. It's a nice break from the craziness. And we got a bunch of other things coming out. We got a Post Game Show, 30 seconds. Rubinreport.locals.com I thank you for watching and well, goodbye.

[H]

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