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Dave Rubin Can’t Believe This Happened While He Was Off the Grid | Jillian Michaels Guest-Hosts
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Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” has been off-grid with no access to news, social media, or his phone since July 31. Watch live as guest-host Jillian Michaels tells him everything he missed thus far in August. Watch Dave’s live reactions to...
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Dave Rubin
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Jillian Melchior
All right, team, I am in the boss's chair today. It is the recap episode. Dave has been out all month. All right, so you got to catch the show on Rumble. YouTube Locals. Click Share, subscribe. Click the notification. All transparency. I was on a 14 hour journey to get to Dave yesterday and I got about three hours of sleep. No amount of nootropics or coffee or nicotine gum is really helping so things could go so south. Quick warning, I said, would I say Pakistan to your team a little earlier when I was rehearsing, Is that a.
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Dave Rubin
Bit of news that there's a new country?
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Jillian Melchior
Quite a bit. I feel bad. It's like I think I might have to get comfortable. I wanted to wear the shoes for the intro, but this is gonna be a long one. I feel like I'm about to club a baby seal. So. Okay, get comfortable. Where were ya? How are ya? How you feeling?
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Dave Rubin
Well, first off, Gillian Michaels, it is nice to see you, my friend. I don't know that anyone is better suited to bring me back on the grid. Yes, it is true. I know nothing that has happened since the day I went off the grid last day of July. I avoided television, I avoided the Internet, I avoided social media, all of the stuff. Unfortunately, this year because of the way the phones have just infiltrated our lives in every which way. I had my phone a little bit for controlling lights in my house and alarms and turning on things and moving blinds. So getting off the grid in Little House on the Prairie way is getting increasingly harder and harder and harder to do. But in terms of getting out of the system and the machine and the rat race and the hamster wheel I completely did it. I do have to say. So I wanna. I scribbled down a few things real quick before we get to the news. I will say one thing about the news before I get to just, like, some random stuff that happened over the month. I don't get the sense that anything major happened.
- [03:08]
Jillian Melchior
I was gonna ask if you have predictions.
- [03:10]
Dave Rubin
Yeah. So my sense is that nothing, like, absolutely crazy happened. Like some kind of big war or like an assassination or a death. Like, I don't get a sense of that because when I was out and about, either at the airport or at the supermarket or whatever, when people were coming up to me, everybody, like, nobody was jumping at the gun, like, oh, my God, the thing. There wasn't a lot of that.
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Jillian Melchior
This was the bar. Nobody was killed and nobody dropped a nuke. So nothing major happened.
- [03:39]
Dave Rubin
Right. Like, there weren't any power outages here. So my general sense is that it was a relatively quiet month. I'm probably gonna eat those words in just moments. But I scribbled down a few things. Cause, you know, getting away. Well, I don't know. You have a lot of paper there and you were laughing hysterically right before we started, so. But. But I thought I would just mention a few things having nothing to do with the news before we get back on. Because when I. This is my.
- [04:03]
Jillian Melchior
Get it out of your system.
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Dave Rubin
This is my ninth year of doing this. And I'm like, you, like, I'm a creature of all of this. I love the news, I love the cycle, I love the culture stuff and all of that stuff. But also the escape is to. For me, it's to, like, reconnect with something else. Something that we all were part of way before the Internet began, where we were just here and present all the time. And I have spent a month being really, really present. The last interview that I did, I think it was on July 31, and then we put it up on August 1, was with Eckhart Tolle. And we talked about present and taking a break. And I really took that in this month. So just, like, a couple things that I scribbled down. I won't spend too much time on it because I know every. Well, I know everybody wants to get to the news that I miss. More importantly.
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Jillian Melchior
Well, they know it, so. So I think they probably actually want to hear about your month away.
- [04:55]
Dave Rubin
So let me just offer up. Let me offer up a couple things. Well, first off, the only thing that I watched today. So finally today, for a split second, I opened up YouTube. I didn't look at anything. But one thought that was popping in my head for the entire month, almost every day, is that I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I kept thinking that over and over. Like, I spent so much time with my kids who are doing. You just saw them, they came in here, like, who are doing so great and learning how to swim now and taking them to the beach and going in the ocean and, like, just watching them develop a sense of humor and all of this stuff.
- [05:28]
Jillian Melchior
And it gets better and.
- [05:29]
Dave Rubin
And I have no doubt it gets better and then it probably gets worse and crazy and awesome and like, all of that stuff. But, like, I had so much time with that. David and I got to escape for a while. We had 10 days, just the two of us, to kind of reconnect. It was our 10th anniversary last week. Been together 15 years. Been married 10 years old. We got to escape and, like, have some solo time, which is also important and all that. But the one thing that I did watch, it's only two minutes long, but I watched the Lou Gehrig speech from God, I don't even know what year it is. The black and white speech that he gave at Yankee Stadium, his last public appearance, you know, when he had what came to be known as Lou Gehrig's disease. But he talks about, you know, he now knows that he has this affliction. I don't have any affliction, but how he's the luckiest man alive. And I just kept thinking that throughout the month, like, I get to escape. I do what I want 11 months of the year. I have an incredible team. I have great colleagues and co workers and employees and friends and family and all these things. And then I get to escape and have nothing to do with any of it. And that's great, too. So I just, more than anything else, whatever you're gonna tell me, I'm just, like, unbelievably appreciative of everybody that I'm around. You, these guys, so appreciative of every everything. And it really. That just hit me over and over and over and over. So that's one nice thing. Now I'll just tell you, like a couple of random.
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Jillian Melchior
But one comment on that, one comment real quick is I listen and it's hard. It is luck. It's opportunity and preparation. You've put in a lot of work to have this life. So I just. I want to be really clear that this isn't luck in the traditional sense of the word. You've worked real hard to have this team and to cultivate this crew and to build this channel and to work on your relationships and, and to have this great dynamic with David and the kids. Like, that's a lot of work. Yeah, you've earned all that.
- [07:16]
Dave Rubin
It's work. Yeah, I guess. Well, I guess that was partly what I was appreciative of. Like, part of the appreciation is that, that I worked really hard and do work hard to create those things. And then to have this month where I was able to like step back for a second, like one thing that was really good this month. It was really nice to not have everything be about me all the time. You know what I mean? Like, that's like a weird thing. Like when you're a public person, like people know you, they expect things from you, they want things from you, you want to give them things. But there's this weird public thing that like a lot of it's about you all the time. And then the social media part makes it like, you know, ramped up on steroids. So to escape a little bit of that and to just like be more present, literally, whether it was with a cashier or waitress or whatever, I think was like, was unbelievable. Now let me just tell you a couple of funny things though. So I am sure that I am in the Guinness Book of World Records now for something that happened this month. I listened and maybe David's with me on this, but I think I might have even beat him. We listened to the theme song of Ghostbusters more times than anyone in the history of the world in any 30 day period. On around August 1st. Somehow the kids heard Ghostbusters. It just popped up on something. I don't know. They are obsessed. And we listened to that song. It could be 10 to 20 times a day, including when we drove across Alligator Alley. About a three and a half hour ride, basically nonstop. Ghostbusters. You saw them this morning. They were in Ghostbusters shirts, like Ghostbusters. And it was really weird because it's a great song actually. It so captures the 80s and blah, blah, blah. But then, but there's a weird thing that happens when you hear something over and over. Like you're like, I like it, I like it, I like it. Then you like go to like some crescendo. Then you start hating it. Then because the kids are loving it, you start loving it again. And then it almost becomes like, it's almost like religious in nature after you've heard it so many times. And then by the end, by yesterday, I was like, I wouldn't mind hearing Ghostbusters right now. So I am in some sort of. That was one thing. The other thing.
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Jillian Melchior
I hold that record for Frozen, by the way.
- [09:24]
Dave Rubin
I want you to know for what's the main song in Frozen?
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, my God. I've actually blocked it out.
- [09:29]
Dave Rubin
But what is it? What is it? Let it go. Let it go. That's Connor's favorite song. Oh, my God.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah.
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Dave Rubin
The other thing, I ate a tremendous amount of watermelon this month. I think I ate probably half a watermelon a day for a month.
- [09:43]
Jillian Melchior
A lot of potassium.
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Dave Rubin
You're a health lady. I don't know where that. I don't know where that puts me, but I just love watermelon. I ate a lot of watermelon. Oh, this one you'll find interesting. And this actually, I think is really.
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Jillian Melchior
You're talking about watermelon.
- [09:56]
Dave Rubin
We'll get to all the evil in a minute.
- [09:57]
Jillian Melchior
I f'd. I was just like, I ate watermelon. Watermelon. I'm like, oh, Dave, I know.
- [10:03]
Dave Rubin
We're gonna raw dog this thing in a minute. Just let me ease in right now.
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Jillian Melchior
I know. It's okay.
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Dave Rubin
What?
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Jillian Melchior
It's okay, Dave.
- [10:09]
Dave Rubin
I took a nap every day. Every single day, without fail. So for 30 straight days, I took a nap at some point. Sometimes it was only like a 15 minute nap. Sometimes it was an hour nap on the beach. Sometimes it was when the kids went down for a nap and I passed down on the couch. But like take like the privilege to take a nap, to have the space in your life to take a nap. I know that sounds ridiculous probably, but something about it, like, I am going to try to incorporate naps into my life. More like a little siesta. Siesta. I know, I know. Another thing, and this. Maybe I'm gonna have to spin off a show, but one thing I really got into with the kids at night, so I had more time to like put them down at night and read stories and stuff, which I love doing. We got a couple puppets and I've been putting on puppet shows for them at night and doing. Doing all these different characters. The wizard and the robot and the old lady. And I do all the voices and everything for like an hour. I'm putting on like an hour show a night and I like kind of incorporate.
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Jillian Melchior
We could get those real quick.
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Dave Rubin
Probably not.
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Jillian Melchior
No. Okay. Sorry.
- [11:06]
Dave Rubin
But I may be doing a puppet show soon. What else? I trained for the first time in my life. I've never had a trainer ever, but I was training Three days a week, mostly working on legs and getting some stability and core and stuff. But I feel really good. I ate right. I didn't have one bad meal. Like, I just ate right the entire time, which was good. And then I'll just. Let's see. Oh, and the kids swimming. Like, to watch them learn how to swim now is just so cool. And take them out into the ocean. It was great. And then we did go to Mexico for 10 days, just the two of us. And, you know, I started my tequila a couple months ago in Copal.
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Jillian Melchior
I was thinking tequila and puppets could be the show.
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Dave Rubin
Actually, that's not a bad idea. I know, but I took it. We brought tequila there. Our distillery actually wasn't far from where we stayed, so they brought it over to us, and we had some of the best tequila sommeliers in all of Mexico come and taste our tequila. And they loved it. Loved it, loved it. So that was so affirming, because this is something I've been working on for years. So that was lovely. And then let me just share one broad thought about politics and culture and life, and then you can take over.
- [12:14]
Jillian Melchior
Okay.
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Dave Rubin
I really was thinking a lot. Like, I try to. I think one of the things I try to do when I escape is like, well, how do I come back better than when I left? You know, not just do the rat race and be in this and just do it over and over and wake up and be like, oh, my God, Whoopi Goldberg said this. And, like, how do I be better at this thing? And I think one of the things that was driving me crazy for the last maybe, like, four months before going off is there's been so much fighting on the right, like, for people that I thought were, like, just everyone. We thought we were all kind of roughly on the same side. Maybe we think different things about this or that or whatever. But so much fighting on the right. And it all. When you get off the freaking. I don't even have my phone on me. But when you get off the phone and you get off the machine and you're just with real people, you realize how little of it actually matters. I don't mean the news doesn't matter. Of course it matters. I don't mean culture doesn't matter or current events don't matter, but, like, the bickering of who's gonna destroy who? And I got this guy, and this one went after. It just is so silly and ridiculous, and it has so little translation into reality. Like, I talked to so many different people this month. And very little about. Nothing about politics came up, but just talk to people from every walk of life. Wherever I went, I was really aware to just, like, if I could just say hi to somebody on the beach or just, like, just chat with people. And like, there's so much goodness. And so one of the things that I'm really gonna try to do for this season of the show, which will roll into 2026, which is America's 250th birthday, is I'm going to double down on finding all of the good people that want to do great things with this country and fight for all of the freedom and beauty and goodness that there is. Like, the bitterness and the fighting and all of this, it's just. It's just utterly nonsensical. And I'm going to do my best not to take part. I could rattle off a million more things, but I think that I had to get a few things just out of my system.
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Jillian Melchior
You never do, though. You're always above it and you're always a class act. And I think that's one of the reasons people love you and they trust you. I feel kind of bad simply because I was also away for a little while. I was gone for almost a month starting in mid July, so I had to catch up on all of it as well. And I remember coming home and thinking, like, how am I going to jump back into this stuff? And if you do it with this renewed sense of purpose of, like, what's the bigger vision? What am I going to try to tackle here when addressing this stuff? And it is about bringing goodness into the world and platforming great ideas and trying to make the country a better place. And you do that so well.
- [14:54]
Dave Rubin
I try and I will continue to try, but it does. It is weird this year, more than any other year, it feels weird to come back in some sense.
- [15:03]
Jillian Melchior
Why do you think that is? Because I felt it too. I felt it too. You're like, okay, hold on. We're going from zero to fifth gear.
- [15:10]
Dave Rubin
You know, this is like, probably the easy version, so maybe I have to think it through a little bit more. The easy version would be that last year we were in the middle of an election year, so it was like. Like I had to come back. I felt the need to come back. The year before that, they were primaries and it was like, oh, my God, the primaries and who's gonna be the VP and blah, blah, like, all the political stuff this year, because it's like Trump's president. When I left, I felt like There were so many good things happening. I mean, that's what I'm talking about on the show all the time, despite the whatever bickering there is and everything. So I. So it was easier to get off. You know what I mean? Like, it was just easier to, like, get off the crazy train. So coming back on the crazy train, it just. It definitely feels weird. I think it's gonna take me a couple days now to get my sea legs and get back into it. But now you can bludgeon me. You want to just paper cut me for two hours? You got a lot of paper there.
- [15:59]
Jillian Melchior
I'm gonna ease you into it, and I want to try to make it as funny as I possibly can, but I'll be honest, some of it's alarming.
- [16:08]
Dave Rubin
Can I ask you, is my general estimation. Don't tell me if you think if it's gonna blow anything, but is my general estimation estimation that nothing, like, really crazy happened? Is that kind of right? Like, that's just my. That's my.
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Jillian Melchior
It's all really crazy, right?
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Dave Rubin
It's. I guess every.
- [16:24]
Jillian Melchior
But that's kind of the point. So, like, we haven't hit, you know, DEFCON 1, right? Like, nobody's about to push the button, but it's pretty kind of. It is a little dystopian. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. Ya.
- [16:39]
Dave Rubin
We.
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Jillian Melchior
You know, David, it's a little like a lot of. There's some crazy stuff going on in the country, but nothing you haven't seen before. But it, you know. All right, well, some steps forward, some steps back.
- [16:51]
Dave Rubin
Yeah. All right, well, just one last thing to that and then take it away, which is that a few times, you know, David doesn't really care about politics the way I do, and we both. He basically disconnects too, so that he doesn't have to know things that I don't know. And then that becomes like, really strange or whatever. But he did keep saying, which I thought was interesting and also will help me frame how I want to do the show for the next year, is that everything has felt so crazy for so long. If you think of everything related to Trump and everything related to Covid and the way social media has shredded us and all these things, that things can only burn like that for so long, and then it becomes like a need for something else. And that's what I'm trying to figure out here. Something about that. The only. Oh, wait, I do want to mention one more thing. Sorry. The only two movies that I watched during the entire Month was about halfway through. I watched Weekend at Bernie's because I was just like, I want something completely idiotic that only has good feelings to me. And it's just, like, joyful. And it was like, man, the 80s, our thing. The thing that, like, was our formative thing was so freaking crazy. And I've said it before, but I think America has to get back to that somehow. Like, the feeling of the 80s, if we can capture that again, I think that's the off road of the craziness. And then the other thing that I watch and it's connected to this and I promise you can take over, is I watched the new Jurassic Park a few days ago.
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, yeah?
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Dave Rubin
Did you see it by chance?
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Jillian Melchior
I think I saw part of it, yeah.
- [18:14]
Dave Rubin
So it was, I thought, pretty terrible. And the only reason I'm even mentioning this is I think it signifies that's.
- [18:22]
Jillian Melchior
The reason I saw Paul. I don't want to say anything shitty.
- [18:26]
Dave Rubin
But you said it, so it was pretty terrible. But the reason I'm mentioning it is because it gets to the heart of what I think we need in culture. What we have to figure out is we keep retreading all of these things, right? We can't seem to come up with something new anymore. New scripts, new ideas, like new art. When was the last time you listened to new music? I listened to music all month. We had music playing 10 hours a day.
- [18:47]
Jillian Melchior
We listened to the Stones, Tupac, Aretha, Amy Winehouse, which is all awesome.
- [18:53]
Dave Rubin
But it would be nice if. If someone could create new things. So I'm watching this Jurassic park, and it's stiff and it's terrible, and it's like, they've done it all before. But not only have they done it all before, they did the original three. The original one was a really good one. The two, kind of after that, pretty crappy. Then they rebooted it, and it was like, just kind of redoing it again. And now they're redoing the redo, and it just makes me wonder, like, what part of. What part of the thing are we in right now where we're redoing the rest redos? Like, we need something new, and I'm gonna really sit with that.
- [19:26]
Jillian Melchior
Nobody wants to take a risk. So it's like, oh, that worked. So let's make the 16th.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
Iteration of it.
- [19:32]
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
Because if you take a risk, you get fired. You know? Gone are the days when they could let Cheers roll season after season as a failure with the knowledge that it's inherently good and will Become one of the top shows of all time. 200 episodes later, you'd be fired for doing that now. Yeah, it will tank episode two. They'll pull it off the air, and that's it. So people just come from fear constantly.
- [19:55]
Dave Rubin
We just need to renew some things, and I think we can do it. I'm gonna do it with you. All right, let's go.
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Jillian Melchior
All right, what do you got?
- [20:02]
Dave Rubin
Now? Tell me about all the people who got.
- [20:03]
Jillian Melchior
I just can't even. Here we go. I feel bad for you. So the first thing is we're gonna break this into three parts, right? So we've got national politics and Trump, additional political news, pop culture news, which is batshit. But first, you are going on tour in Australia. Do we have a.
- [20:23]
Dave Rubin
Yes, I have. Do we? Wow. Look at me.
- [20:25]
Jillian Melchior
Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane. Very, very exciting.
- [20:29]
Dave Rubin
Wow. I'm going. I'm getting right in the grid and going across the world. All right, good for me.
- [20:33]
Jillian Melchior
Keep it on for five minutes. And now you're gonna. Yeah.
- [20:36]
Dave Rubin
All right. Thank you for promoting the stuff.
- [20:38]
Jillian Melchior
Oh, anytime. All right. I do have some good news.
- [20:41]
Dave Rubin
Okay, we're starting with this good news. All right.
- [20:44]
Jillian Melchior
Kamala, I still to this day cannot pronounce her name right, so, forgive me, is not going to run for governor or president. And she went on Colbert and announced it. Take a look.
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Dave Rubin
Yesterday, you made an announcement that you're not running for the governor of California.
- [21:00]
Jillian Melchior
Correct. You said you're going to sit this one out. Why are you sitting this out?
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Dave Rubin
Are you saving yourself for a different.
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Jillian Melchior
Office that might be.
- [21:07]
Dave Rubin
No, no.
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Jillian Melchior
I made the decision that I just. For now, I don't want to go back in the system. I think it's broken.
- [21:14]
Dave Rubin
Who's leading the Democratic Party? I'm just curious.
- [21:17]
Jillian Melchior
There are lots of leaders, and, well.
- [21:19]
Dave Rubin
There'S generally a leader of the Democratic.
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Jillian Melchior
Party, you know, like, oh, that's the.
- [21:23]
Dave Rubin
Leader of the Democratic Party. Who comes to mind?
- [21:25]
Jillian Melchior
I think there are a lot of. I'm not going to go through names, because then I'm going to leave somebody out, and then I'm going to hear about it.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, God. That's like watching a movie. When you stop watching that stuff for a while, that feels like watching, like, a scripted movie. First off, the failed guy who's gonna be kicked out. The woman who was attacked. No, not attacked. The woman who was justly criticized for never having a declarative sentence about anything she can't name who's gonna be the leader of the party. She's nothing. Like. That's the thing we were. Do people realize, like, what was the reaction to it nationally? Cause do people realize we were on the precipice of electing nothing? Like we were just electing the next cog in the system? That's what it was. Dementia guy to the cog.
- [22:07]
Jillian Melchior
I'm like, you are the system.
- [22:08]
Dave Rubin
Right. That is the system's broken lady.
- [22:11]
Jillian Melchior
Definition of the system lady.
- [22:13]
Dave Rubin
The system literally rejiggered itself in front of our eyes to make you the candidate. And now you don't like the. Well, it's kind of like Colbert. He doesn't like the system very much anymore. Cause when they pull your 20 million bucks a year to have a $50 million deficit on your show, you're suddenly not. So did people care? Like, she's nothing, she's nobody. She's gonna be a footnote. That's it. If I never have to say your name again, that would be a pleasure.
- [22:36]
Jillian Melchior
I cared simply because I thought if she becomes the next governor of California, it is the only way things could get worse there.
- [22:44]
Dave Rubin
Oh, you still have hope for that place. I do, and I don't.
- [22:48]
Jillian Melchior
You know, I get in fights with people about it that stay.
- [22:50]
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
And I'm like, don't get out now. Run while you can. But being a native daughter of the state, having grown up there, I think thinking it's so beautiful, it has so much potential, and watching it be systematically destroyed by Gavin Newsom and then knowing she was next in line, there is some relief for me there. I'm not gonna lie. And the best part is like, oh, no, I'm just such a good person, I want to work outside the system. It's like, no, you know you can't win.
- [23:17]
Dave Rubin
Right?
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Jillian Melchior
You know you can't win. And if you need to save face and bow out gracefully, I'm going to let her have it.
- [23:23]
Dave Rubin
Right. But also, what has she done? What has she ever actually, I know she put a lot of people in jail for minor weed offenses as Attorney General, but she should have never been running in the first place. She should have never been vice president in the first place. So it's not that she's not happy with the system. The system's done with you. You have no use. That's when these people are just cogs for the system. The system no longer is use for you. It would have had use for her. If she had won, then it could have used her to further whatever its agenda is. Right. I don't even mean that in, like, some crazy conspiracy way. Like, there is a system that's in place. I don't know that anyone knows exactly what it is. There's something that is in place, that orders this stuff. It no longer has use for a person who can only talk about concentric circles and Russia big, Ukraine small. So adios, lady. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
- [24:17]
Jillian Melchior
Yesterday's news for that party, and we'll get into that in a little bit. But speaking of individuals that the system no longer has use for, so far.
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Dave Rubin
One for one, we got one good.
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Jillian Melchior
One they just trotted out.
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Dave Rubin
We should be here.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, you're ready.
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Dave Rubin
I'll keep a little tally on.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, here we go. So Biden appeared at the National Bar association gala, and he just looks.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, God.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, I don't know where they doing this.
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Dave Rubin
Take a look. And he brought his granddaughters to celebrate with him. It has been to ease all the gains we've made in my administration to erase history rather than make it to race fairness, equality to race justice itself. And that's not hyperbole, that's a fact.
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Jillian Melchior
So he.
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Dave Rubin
No, that's hyperbole.
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Jillian Melchior
To talk about how Trump has erased his legacy, of which I'm still trying to figure out what that is outside of the auto pen and inflation and naps and botched Afghanistan withdrawal. And that is kind of the point, by the way, is that we wanted to erase that.
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Dave Rubin
Well, you know, I said that watching Kamala and Colbert is like watching movies. Like, watching him. It's just like watching a movie. Oh, you're an old man. That they put up there to poorly read a script. Actually, my first reaction to seeing him again was, man, can you believe that? It was just over a year ago where they were still telling us he was supposed to be president. Right. He didn't step down till I think it was July. Or when they forced him out, actually, which we'll find out more about year from now. It was July of last year, so it's just over a year ago. They were going to pretend that that man was supposed to be president right now and that so many people participated in that. Jake Tapper participated in it and then wrote a book about it. Like, what an utter, utter farce. But you're so right about the legacy. Like, sorry, dude, what is your legacy? Well, you were in government for 50 plus years. You broke the border. You, you know, had draconian lockdowns during COVID You forced vaxes, you weakened us across the world. Like, what is like. And then what at the end of all of that is like, what are. What are you even going out there for at this point? Dr. Jill. It's because Dr. Jill won't let the guy just take a nap.
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Jillian Melchior
It's gotta be, because it's speaking of someone who's starting to look honestly, like abuse. Yeah, like, stop trotting the guy out there.
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Dave Rubin
Well, did you see. Remember right before the election. I think it was the day before the election, they trotted out. I mean, this was the most sad of all of them. They trotted out Jimmy Carter's body, and he literally looked like the Crypt Keeper. No one should have seen him. He could not move. Mouth agape, hollow eyes. And they said his last wish was to vote for Kamala Harris.
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Jillian Melchior
Awful.
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Dave Rubin
I don't know. Somehow if you step away for a month, it's like we all know they're lying all the time, but you step away from a month, and then the lies seem like really. It's like. It's like, really obvious.
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Jillian Melchior
That's. That's what I mean. When you're like, well, I. You know, I. I think all the countries are still there and no one died.
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Dave Rubin
Right?
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Jillian Melchior
But when you. When you gain some perspective, man, this is pretty. Pretty crazy. There's a lot of work to be done here.
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Dave Rubin
All right, well, look, I wrote good, bad. I have a tally now. So I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say that one was good. Like, it's probably. We're not gonna see much more of him. So I have two good. You've given me two good ones so far.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, I got. This one's just funny.
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Dave Rubin
Okay, that's funny. I can work with.
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Jillian Melchior
So Hunter Biden has begun working as the director of development for an LA homelessness prevention organization called Bosta. Now, Hunter said that Bosta protects people from eviction, and they're the only group, at least in Southern California, that represents undocumented, so they don't take federal money. So his mission is to prevent the eviction of illegals that don't pay rent.
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Dave Rubin
Now he's running drug rehab to prevent the.
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Jillian Melchior
No, it's some sort of organization where you can't be kicked out of your house.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, wait, did I just add drug rehab into that myself? Am I just. Wow. My brain is coming back online. I heard Hunter Biden, and then I immediately thought, drug rehab. That's funny. See? What. You see what's happening? The thing is, like, starting to whir again. It's like when you remember the old days, you turn on a computer, it would be like, ring, ding, ding, ding, ding. Like, yeah, something's happening. So I just completely made that up. All right, put that aside for a sec. Well, that's just. Well, congratulations. He's probably the new party leader.
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Jillian Melchior
Well. And I figured that he saw they lost 24 billion to these NGOs.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah. Oh, that's interesting.
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Jillian Melchior
And, you know, saw opportunity there.
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Dave Rubin
I just don't understand. I genuinely do not understand the mindset of someone who now, at this point in 2025, would be like, oh, our main thing is that we should be keeping illegals here. Like, it's so. It's so profoundly insane. Like, if I illegally got name a country, literally any country, okay, Nigeria. If I literally showed up in Nigeria one day as a visitor and then six years later I had just never left, would I. And then the Nigerians came to my door and were like, dave, what are you doing here still? You were supposed to be here on vacation. I wouldn't expect the Nigerians to keep.
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Jillian Melchior
Me there when I was in Rwanda.
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Dave Rubin
It's profoundly insane.
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Jillian Melchior
I had to show proof that I was leaving. They're like, and when are you exiting the country? I'm like, oh, okay.
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Dave Rubin
Just to get in, you had to.
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Jillian Melchior
Prove that you were leaving.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
They're like, when's your exit ticket?
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Dave Rubin
I really want to do safari in Rwanda. Was it a safari that you did?
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Jillian Melchior
It was to go see the gorilla. So gorilla safari?
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Dave Rubin
Yeah, the kids.
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Jillian Melchior
And the one to Tanzania and Kenya. But you know what's crazy? I have just picked up my kids because they were with my ex in Los Angeles. So I go to LA to get the kids. And I actually posted this video. This was in July. So you were still here. And it looked like the. I know it's not politically correct to say it, but I want the impact. It looked like the third world and it was 10 minutes from Beverly Hills. It wasn't skid row. It was garbage everywhere in 10 cities. And just. It was. It looked.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, yeah, I live there. I've seen.
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Jillian Melchior
Then I go to Rwanda. There's kids playing soccer at 10 o' clock at night. There's not a piece of trash on the street.
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Dave Rubin
There's like guerrillas building nice hospitals.
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Jillian Melchior
Dave. And I was like, wow, talk about upside down world right now. So you make a very good point. Have a lot to talk to you about on immigration. So I'm not going to get into it right now. Hunter went on, by the way, to talk about how Melania Trump was introduced to DJT by Epstein. There's a video of this, of course. Take a look. Epstein introduced Melania to Trump.
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Dave Rubin
The connections are like, so wide and deep.
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Jillian Melchior
Anyway, why do we think they don't.
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Dave Rubin
Want the files released? Do we believe the crack addict?
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Jillian Melchior
No, of course not. But here's what I did find interesting. So I guess Daily Beast kind of ran with this.
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Dave Rubin
And long story short, Daily Beast is utter garbage. Utter, utter, utter garbage. They're all garbage.
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Jillian Melchior
I mean, there's some.
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Dave Rubin
They're all garbage.
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Jillian Melchior
It's all lies. And it's lies on purpose. And the only way I'm beginning to realize personally that you can stop it is by pursuing it legally. So she turned around and threatened Hunter Biden with a billion dollar losses.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, wow.
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Jillian Melchior
Over his defamatory remarks. She demanded a retraction and removal and an apology. But basically they forced the Daily Beast to retract it.
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Dave Rubin
Wow. And did he personally retract it too?
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Jillian Melchior
So he didn't, but I don't believe he did. Phoenix, am I wrong about that? I don't think he did, Dave. Yeah, but the Daily Beast did.
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Dave Rubin
Interesting.
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Jillian Melchior
I know. And I gotta tell you, he has been obviously on a tear, going after all of the legacy media. I'm not even gonna call him.
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Dave Rubin
One of the last things before I left was his crazy podcast where he just like tore everybody a new one, all of the Democrats.
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Jillian Melchior
And yeah, it's working, though. It is working. And I personally am taking a few, you know, tricks from him right now, because if you don't do that, they'll just flat out lie.
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Dave Rubin
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Jillian Melchior
And it's wild. You can provide proof like this is not true.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
And they do it anyway and completely disregard it because the narrative is so strong. The incentive to paint certain pictures is so strong and so divisive. So he's been pursuing all of this legally and it is working. And you see it with the Daily Beast, which is somewhat encouraging, but who has hundreds of thousands of dollars to go after it legally all the time? So they push the envelope.
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Dave Rubin
It is partly when I mentioned that the really, the only Sort of political thing I was thinking about was this inviting on the right thing. Like, so much of it is just based in how social media is exacerbating and amplifying lies. Like, just lies and nonsense and reconstructionist history and just, like, all of this craziness. But what do we do about that? Right? Like, I don't know that there really is no, like, truly clean answer if you're for free speech. And then in this, we have this weird thing where at some point, some level, if you don't have moments like this where someone who has the means will use the machine to push back on a lie, then there will be no way to decipher truth at all. So it's like you don't want the wife of the president to have to feel like she has to sue a freaking stupid drag, you know? But on the other hand, otherwise, it just goes and goes and goes and goes. And what is that? Like, we need something like, the truth is like the anchor, basically, consequences. Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
And again, like, I'll fill you in on some of it as the show goes on, but I've experienced it now personally, and you have to take action. You can provide, like, this didn't happen. I have the proof, and they just negate it.
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Dave Rubin
Gillian, my friend, it's right out of camera over there. But that is a front page New York Times set Sunday piece from about six years ago with me on the front page calling me basically the head of the alt. Right? I mean, what do you do? What do you do? I talked to lawyers about suing them, and they were basically like, yeah, if you want to spend hundreds of thousand dollars to be in an endless lawsuit that you probably won't win because you're a public person, they'll drain you forever, and they have endless resources. So what do you do again? That's something that we all are just gonna have to figure out more and more, especially as AI continues and fakes and blah, blah, blah. All right, so so far, so far, I'm not sensing anything too crazy here.
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Jillian Melchior
All right, this one's a little bit nuts.
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Dave Rubin
Kamala's out. Biden crack.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, okay, so this one's a little bit nuts. So Tulsi Gabbard and Russiagate. You didn't catch any of this, did you?
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Dave Rubin
I know she's been trying to expose some things. Okay, yeah, well, I think that, like, yeah, two days before I left, she basically said that Hillary. There was some stuff around Hillary and.
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Jillian Melchior
Russia gave her the long and the short of this. And then I'll Break it down bit by bit. Here is she's basically saying that Obama and Hillary Clinton and now George Soros Open Society foundation concocted this entire Russiagate thing that Obama was told by a clapper, his dni. Right. Like this is. There's nothing to see here. The Russia didn't collude in any effective way on behalf of Trump and they said kind of do it anyway. Right? So.
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Dave Rubin
So some of that was breaking just as I left.
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Jillian Melchior
All right, now, there were some emails that were purportedly found from this guy, Leonard Bernardo. Okay, so this guy was the regional director for Eurasia at the Open City Society Foundations. Okay. Now, this guy claims he's never seen these emails before, but I copied one for you, so I wanted to read it verbatim. This little section from it. So one of these emails stated that Hillary Clinton had approved a campaign advisor's idea, quote, about Trump and Russia hackers tampering with US Elections. That should distract people from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes to the Olympic level. The point is making the Russian play a US Domestic issue says something like a critical infrastructure threat for the election to feel menace. Since both POTUS and V POTUS have acknowledged the fact IC would speed up searching for evidence that is regrettably still unavailable. This is supposedly a direct email from this guy.
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Dave Rubin
That all sounds like exactly what happened. Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
Of course, they deny all of it. Now, August 4th, Pam Bondi orders the date DOJ to launch a grand jury probe into Russiagate. So we've got a video on that one. Take a look.
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Dave Rubin
Well, Will, good to be with you. This is coming out of the Justice Department. Fox News can confirm that Attorney General Pam Bondi today signed an order directing an unnamed US Federal prosecutor to take evidence to a grand jury relating to an alleged conspiracy to tie then 2016 candidate Donald Trump to the country of Russia. Now, Fox News reviewed the one page order just hours ago signed by the Attorney General. A source familiar with the probe confirms this as well. While a DOJ spokesperson declined to comment on this report of an investigation, Fox is told Attorney General Bondi is taking the referrals from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, quote, very seriously. The spokesperson says that Bondi believes there is, quote, clear cause for deep concern, end quote, and a need for the next step.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, so now Taibi tells Cuomo that he thinks indictments are going to come down from this. So take a look at this one.
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Dave Rubin
I think there are going to be indictments. I was very skeptical on that question. Even a Couple of weeks ago. But I have heard repeatedly from these folks that they understand that this is not a hearts and minds contest and that they are not doing this for show and that if they don't end up in a courtroom, that this will be a massive political failure for them. So I do think that there will be significant indictments. I just don't know what for. Well, that's interesting. Well, has anything else happened subsequently before I comment?
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Jillian Melchior
I mean, it's more of the same. Tulsi declassifies files that show former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper in December complied with Obama's orders to fabricate the Russia hoax before Trump took office. Dni Gabbard reveals Clapper sought to compromise normal procedures to rush the Russiagate hoax intelligence report. It kind of goes on and on like this. Then the administration revoked security clearances for 37 officials alleging that they weaponized intelligence. So that's. But here's what's scary about this, is sort of no one cares.
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Dave Rubin
So that actually is kind of what I was gonna say.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, sort of no one cares.
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Dave Rubin
Right. Because the top of that you mentioned was right at the beginning of the. The month, and now we're already into September. And these things, they burn hot for a second and then everyone just moves on. It's like anything as it relates to Covid. No matter how many people you killed or you threw people back in old age homes or you injected children with things, nobody pays the price. And when anyone pays the price, it's always the wrong person or a patsy or something. So the only difference, I would say, and this is what I've. You know Tulsi a little bit. Right. I feel like maybe we've never met. Have you? Never met.
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Jillian Melchior
But we've chatted on the phone a couple times.
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Dave Rubin
What I can tell you, Tulsi, I know her fairly well. I would say she is a good, decent human being who loves this country and really wants to do the right thing. As I don't know exactly everything in her brain and heart, but like, to the extent that I know her on camera and off, that is, I can absolutely say that with confidence about her. She does not strike me as the type of person that would just come in and just kind of make up stuff or placate to the system or whatever you want. It's a little bit like Dan Bongino. You could say whatever you want about Dan. And I know a lot of people kind of turned on him a few months ago around some Epstein stuff. And I was like, this guy has Fought for every good thing forever. Maybe he's not giving you exactly what you want right now, but you got to give him a little bit of grace. So, look, if indictments are coming, that's different than just, okay, we found some emails and this or that of the other things. So. All right, that's interesting. That's something that feels like some newsworthy thing, but to your point, it just kind of.
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Jillian Melchior
And like, the left completely ignored it. Yeah, right. And the right kind of, oh, something. Maybe. Maybe there's something there. Oh, my God. Prison. You know, every Twitter feed, prison. We want jail time.
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Dave Rubin
It's also why I'm really trying to focus on the positive stuff happening in the country all the the time. I think that's because it's the only thing that solves any of this. Like, whether you indict somebody or you arrest. Like, are we better?
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Jillian Melchior
I'm not saying, Hillary, where's that going to go?
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Dave Rubin
Right?
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, you're jailing your opponents, and it's a slippery slope, and then everything's vindictive. And that's right.
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Dave Rubin
So, like, so we have to be careful. Right? So we have to be careful what we ask for with that stuff. And I think, again, the only thing that solves this, and this is why I'm so bullish on this 2250th anniversary of a America thing coming up next year, is that the only thing that solves it is success. Success of the country solves it. Success is the thing that makes racists be a little less racist. You know, like, when things are going well, success is the thing that makes you be a little less jealous, that makes you be a little more humble, that makes more people want to cooperate with each other and everything else. When things aren't going well, that's when everybody's turned into try to get everybody and destroy everything. And unfortunately, unfortunately, the left has been really good at decimating so many of the good things that I think a.
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Jillian Melchior
Lot of people, everything is just resist. That's the whole thing. That's all they're about. Oh, how boring is just resist no matter what. I've got some good stuff for you on that one that is so fricking crazy. That will illustrate the point, I think, better than anything. Okay, all right, I'll get to that in a minute. And I'm sure the audience is pretty clear on what I'm referring to, but we'll get to that. But everything is just resist at all costs, no matter what. And you're going to see it in the news.
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Dave Rubin
Yes. We must stop all of this good stuff from happening, because then they won't need us. That's the thing. That's the thing.
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Jillian Melchior
Or we'll never be in power again.
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Dave Rubin
Right?
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Jillian Melchior
So if we don't position it as crime is good and homelessness is good, and illegal immigration is good. Good. And, you know, red food dye is good, then. Then where are we? Cuz you didn't fix it. If anything, it all got worse. So I got something cute for you.
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Dave Rubin
All right? Something.
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Jillian Melchior
It looks like Trump is doing renovations, so take a look.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, they were going to build a ballroom or something.
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Jillian Melchior
It's kind of cute. Mr. President. What are you doing up there?
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Dave Rubin
Come down and talk to us.
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Jillian Melchior
What are you building?
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Dave Rubin
Are you considering more renovations, sir? Hello? Peter? Peter? I actually couldn't quite hear what he said, but, like, we really don't deserve the guy. We really don't like. It is. It is never going to get more real and ridiculous in the good sense and functional in the best sense, and it's just never going to get better. And it's like if we can't do what needs to be done sort of politically, to turn around some of the stuff that we're always talking about. If this isn't it, if this isn't enough, how does it. So what are they doing? We're building a second level.
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Jillian Melchior
But that's the thing. I'm like, well, if he's doing a ballroom, why is he on the roof? I don't know. He's such a lunatic. But, like, anything's possible. He might be. I thought, wait, you'll love this. What are the zoning laws with the White House? Do you think?
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Dave Rubin
You'll love this. So we go away with the kids these last few days. We were at a little beach place not too far from here, and the kids. Luke kept saying, I want to go back to the White House. I want to go back to the White House. And I'm like, what is he talking about? The White House? He wants to go to the White House. You know, we've read them books about the Statue of Liberty and whatever. Want to go back to the White House. And then we realized my house is. It's a big white house.
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Jillian Melchior
That's so cool.
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Dave Rubin
And he wanted to go back to the White House the entire time, so. And now he's back at the White House and he's very happy.
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Jillian Melchior
Kids love home at the end of the day. They get a little older, though, and then you can take them on kind of crazy adventures.
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Dave Rubin
But I Mean, and we are doing renovations here, which Donald Trump could probably do a lot faster and cheaper than what I'm paying the contractors in Miami.
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Jillian Melchior
Are you ready?
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Dave Rubin
I'll show you what's going on in this.
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Jillian Melchior
I just am wrapping one up in Jackson. It has taken years of my life, so good luck with that. Yeah. Okay. Keep me in the loop. It's good you have a tequila company. We've got a lot to cover, but just you make sure.
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Dave Rubin
You mean to pay for it or to drink through my sorrows?
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, God, babe. Wait till they don't show up.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
Wait till they're three quarters of the way through the job and they don't show up.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
And they just vanish and everything is ten times more and. Oh, yeah. Anyway, so that was cute. All right.
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Dave Rubin
All right. Again. So far, I'm not sensing anything crazy or anything. Okay. No.
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Jillian Melchior
Anyway, we'll get there. Stuff that I don't love, that I'll share with you. I'll give you a little precursor, I think. No, I'm not. We'll get there when we get there. Okay. Because this is a good one.
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Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
So Trump got the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan to sign peace agreements and shake hands. After 35 years of conflict, not surprising. This is a great one. So take a look at that.
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Dave Rubin
President of the United States, the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan, and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia will now sign the joint declaration on the outcomes of the Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity summit. That's really. They will sign three copies and. Yeah. Reminds me of Hitler, doesn't it?
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Jillian Melchior
I was just about to give. I wanted to give the guy his due here, so you know this. But just for anybody watching, I mean, he negotiated peace even though there's still some little bit of fighting on the borders of the Congo and Rwanda. I mean, the guy de. Escalated the situation in India and Pakistan, Cambodia and Thailand border dispute, put it to bed. Egypt and Ethiopia. Negotiations he hosted in August 2025 put that to bed. The Iran and Israel situation seems to be under a ceasefire still. The US and the Houthis. Ceasefire was announced. I mean, he is a president for peace.
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Dave Rubin
It's almost like America's supposed to lead the world, that it's a heavy burden and somebody's gotta do it. And if it's not us, it's gonna be much worse. And when we abdicated the duties, as we did for four years under a president whose brain wasn't in his head, that. That was a problem. And now we're trying to fix it. It's almost like that, don't you think?
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Jillian Melchior
What I find crazy is the people who can't stand him somehow manage to not see anything.
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Dave Rubin
They never see the good stuff.
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Jillian Melchior
None of it.
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Dave Rubin
Never see the good stuff. Zero. Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
Now, I do have to give you a bit of an update on the Ukraine situation.
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Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
And I gotta tell you, D, at the end of the day, I still think it's much ado about nothing.
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Dave Rubin
Okay?
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Jillian Melchior
Bottom line is we are losing this. And we had the off ramps. We didn't take it. Putin's winning, and there's really no incentive for him to stop. Now I gotta give you the update because I thought we were making progress. So here's what happened. Trump brought Putin to Alaska. The left went ban.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, they met. They met in person.
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Jillian Melchior
They met in person.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, wow.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay. I got a lot to show you on this one. So he had the all star foreign policy team together for the negotiations. The left was like, I can't believe you're bringing him to America. And it's like, why, though? Why would you. Why would that be an issue? As Trump says, I want people to stop dying. And I mean, I personally would do anything to make that happen in large part. So take a look at kind of the whole throwdown here. So here we are. I don't know that I necessarily narrate this for you, but they in fact meet in Alaska. All right? They're on the airstrip here. And then you've got Trump standing with Putin. They're smiling. You've got Marco Rubio and Steve Witkoff there with him. It was a whole thing. And, you know. Yeah, I thought we were gonna get somewhere here. Now, on the 15th of August, Putin says that he hopes the agreement can be reached with Trump and he wants to have peace. And Trump says he's gonna call Zelensky and NATO regarding this meeting. So. So we got another video on that. Take a look. If he could bring about the end to this terrible war where Putin is the aggressor, invading a neighbor country, trying to change the borders. If President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Dave Rubin
Huh.
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Jillian Melchior
Now, we jumped ahead a little bit.
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Dave Rubin
On that one, so that's pretty good.
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Jillian Melchior
She kind of sets him up to fail, though, because she basically is like, if we don't have to give up any territory, like, what do you mean you don't have to give him any territory? Putin's already winning. He's already got it. So she's basically in my Opinion. What she does there is essentially say, no matter what happens, even if he brokers peace, you lost.
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Dave Rubin
Meaning that Ukraine would have to give up some territory. They're going to have to give up.
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Jillian Melchior
Exactly.
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Dave Rubin
It's just reality.
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Jillian Melchior
That's the point. That's what I see her doing is saying like, there's no way this guy can win because I'm going to set the bar impossibly high because no one took the off ramps in 2022 when there were. Putin didn't know how it would play out. Now, as mentioned, he is winning. So this kind of goes on. Putin does say that he can confirm the war wouldn't have happened if Trump was in office, whatever the hell that means. Trump then says on August 16 that Russia and Ukraine should go directly to a peace agreement instead of a ceasefire. There's the Hillary thing, like, oh yeah, if he could put, pull this off, blah, blah, blah. Now here's something cute. Zelensky shows up in a suit.
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Dave Rubin
Wow. He got a suit. Somebody went to H and M. Yeah, let's roll this.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, so he gets the whole like eu, all the Liam Crone's there, Mers. Is there freaking Maloney, the whole NATO Europe situation. They're all there. We got a 40 second video of that.
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Dave Rubin
The best I have. I think in the past two weeks we've probably had more progress in ending this war than we have in the past three and a half years. I really want to thank you, President of the United States, dear Donald, for the fact that you, as I said before, broke the deadlock basically with President Putin by starting that dialogue. You know, if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that's a pretty. I want to try and get to heaven if possible. I'm hearing I'm not doing well. I am really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons. Well, I. Well, all right, this all sounds good, but I'm guessing nothing's happening here. Nothing's happened yet.
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Jillian Melchior
Nothing's happened yet. I mean, we do have. Here's the bottom line is that Bill Maher praised Trump because he, quote, really does not like war. I mean, you know, Bill comes out, we'll call balls and strikes, still loves Gavin Newsom, which I can't understand. We got a video of it.
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Dave Rubin
I don't know. Oh, no, Bill, don't, don't. It's funny, I see that today is the anniversary of Woodstock. This is a 56 years ago and the Hippies. What did they hate more than anything else? What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. So if you're the kind of person who says, you know, you can find some good in anybody, this would be the good in Donald Trump. He really does not like war.
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Jillian Melchior
I mean, I do love that Bill said that. Here's where we're at, though. The reality is that Trump has. I'm not sure if you were here for this. He's now going to have NATO buy weapons for us and he's going to arm Ukraine.
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Dave Rubin
So I think that was happening right as I was looking leaving.
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Jillian Melchior
He's gonna have to do it. And he's also introducing secondary sanctions. So he's putting a 50%, he's raising it from 25% to 50% sanction on India because they're buying fuel from Russia. So. And you know, he's gonna try to get people to kick them out of SWIFT and the whole thing.
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Dave Rubin
But, you know, so it's a little bit of like have it both ways.
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Jillian Melchior
You got. The reality is, you know, Victor Davis Hansen says, like, if you want. Want peace planned for war. Of course.
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Dave Rubin
Of course. That's right. Peace through strength.
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Jillian Melchior
Exactly. I think he doesn't have a choice because there's just. No. What would be the incentive? Honestly, this is not in the notes. Just between you and I, when you look at this from the outside, what is Putin's incentive to stop?
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Dave Rubin
I have said the same people could go back to my. When did this all start? 3/plus years ago @ this point. I have said the exact same thing from day one on this thing, which is at the end of the day, Putin has nukes. So. Yes. Did he invade a sovereign country? Yes. Is that a little more complex than usual borders because of the breakup of the Soviet Union and all that? Yes, yes, yes, fine. But at the end of the day, the guy that invaded has nukes. So the idea that, okay, we can give him 20 more tanks or 40 more planes, the Ukrainians, obviously, or this much more money or pay their pensions or whatever, as if that's going to end. End the war at some point, it's like, no, that doesn't. Because if Putin ever was really losing the war, he has the ultimate weapon.
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Jillian Melchior
Exactly.
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Dave Rubin
So what really are we doing here? I don't know. This is one where I just, to me, you have to just grant Trump a long leash on this. He's at least trying everything.
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Jillian Melchior
He's trying diplomacy, he's rearming Ukraine, but not with our tax dollars. He's to trying. He's trying secondary sanctions. Now he's trying every.
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Dave Rubin
So what are they saying? Like, why is it not working?
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Jillian Melchior
It's just stalled. We're just waiting on this trilateral meeting between him and Putin and Zelensky. But Melania said this or Trump said this of Melania that. He goes home after these meetings. He's like, everything went great. Everything's gotten so green. She goes, are you sure? Because he just blew up a bunch of kids and just nailed another city. I mean, at the end of the day, whether there were off ramps, whether we wanted this war or not, I don't think anyone can deny that Putin is. He's bananas. You know, you're not dealing with.
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Dave Rubin
He's a former KGB agent. He's a crafty guy. He's basic. You know, he's been in power for, you know, democratically elected.
- [55:18]
Jillian Melchior
Right.
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Dave Rubin
A long time. You know, like, this is not going to be an easy one.
- [55:22]
Jillian Melchior
But no, I mean.
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Dave Rubin
So, all right, so that's just kind of.
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Jillian Melchior
That's kind of where we're at, you know. All right, so yeah, okay. Sanction, blah, blah, blah. I mentioned all that to you. Okie dokie. Ah, I like this story. Okay, now then, Elon and Trump have agreed on something again, and it is over. Big Balls. Do you remember Ed Kordestein?
- [55:50]
Dave Rubin
There was a kid whose screen name was Big Balls or something. She was part of Doge.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, okay, so listen to this. This sparked like a huge thing that's going on, and it's a really big deal right now, actually. I think for the better. Of course, the left is authoritarian. Panic. Long story short, Big Balls is out with his girlfriend. As far as I know, she was his girlfriend. So saved a woman from being assaulted. I thought they were a couple. I'm not totally sure. From a bunch of kids, like 14 teenagers that beat them the shit out of Big Balls.
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Dave Rubin
That's Big Balls.
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Jillian Melchior
That is Big Balls. Isn't he cute? Actually, he's a cute kid. So listen to this. They beat up Big Balls, who acts like a ginormous hero and tries to save the lady, the judge. They catch two of these teenagers and she basically releases them with no consequences.
- [56:41]
Dave Rubin
Wait, so they were just attack. They were trying to steal this woman's car or something, and he just randomly.
- [56:44]
Jillian Melchior
Saved a woman being assaulted by her car. I thought it was his girlfriend and they were together and he told her to take off.
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Dave Rubin
Is that the woman or is that the judge?
- [56:50]
Jillian Melchior
That's the judge. That's the judge. So Big Ball stays behind in this act of Heroism. And gets the crap kicked out of him by 14, I think it was like, 14 teenagers.
- [57:01]
Dave Rubin
Jesus.
- [57:02]
Jillian Melchior
They catch two of these kids.
- [57:03]
Dave Rubin
Should I ask the ethnic makeup of this? Because I'm gonna guess that probably colors the sword, so to speak.
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Jillian Melchior
There was something unrelated to this. So one of the things that. That is in a really bad place are race relations. We have some stuff on it involving me, but with that said, there was an issue. This is not in here, but there was a teacher, I think he was a Harvard professor, who got the crap kicked out of him by a couple of teens in a movie theater and then turned around and was like, I can't describe them. And then, of course, everybody online, I was like, okay. You know, and it begot all of this crazy racist remarks on both sides.
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Dave Rubin
But the racial makeup was obviously what we think it is.
- [57:51]
Jillian Melchior
Presumably. Presumably.
- [57:52]
Dave Rubin
So he was white and they were black. Like, let's not.
- [57:54]
Jillian Melchior
Presumably. So I'm not entirely sure, you know, what race these kids were, but this.
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Dave Rubin
Is not so colorblind. You can have a bunch of people kick the shit out of you, and you don't know what. That you've really been had the shit kicked out of you, and you don't know what color they are.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, I'll get to kind of what's gone on with that issue in a little bit.
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Dave Rubin
Okay, but wait, what happened with Big Balls?
- [58:18]
Jillian Melchior
So, ready for this? So Trump turns around and he's like, eff it, I'm federalizing dc. And he took over law enforcement and basically just got everybody on the ground. So. And they read it to you as it's supposed to be, you know, told. But the long story short is he gets the guard in the mix and he. I mean, but like, everybody. The FBI, like, everybody actually got involved. And the long and the short of this, I mean, there's a video actually. Let me show. Hold on. Before we get to the video, let me just tell it to you from. Without the notes. So he's like, screw this, I'm taking over. And the long story short is, you know, DC's crime is bananas, right? It's three times higher than pretty much any blue city. The homicide rate is like six and a half times higher than New York and California or Los Angeles, and everybody goes crazy. The left is going nuts. Now, to the credit of the police chief and the mayor Bowser. Right. They did say. I have to be honest, they did say, we want to see what we can do with the resources. Now the left has gone wacky because they're like, this is nuts. Crime is at, what is it, like a 30% low? I can't remember exactly. It's never been lower. It's 30% lower. However, as mentioned, it's still ridiculously high. And there's some evidence to suggest that law enforcement there has kind of been cooking the books on the statistics.
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Dave Rubin
Right. They don't report certain things now.
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Jillian Melchior
They change the crimes. So there's actually a guy. I made a note of this because I don't want to get his name wrong in all of these notes. Somewhere in here. But long story short, he was like a commander who was put on administrative leave. He denies this, but for kind of cooking the books and making more serious crimes, little misdemeanors. But the actual police union came out and said it's not just him, it's everybody is kind of complex implicit in this. And nevertheless, whether it's true or whether it isn't true, DC's crime is still bananas. So he federalizes the Guard. And the statistics are deep. They're incredible. Crime plummets. Now, I don't have, unfortunately, for some reason, I must have it on another page. Here we go, here we go, here we go. Okay, and then I got videos to show you. But CNN reported that President Trump's D.C. takeover produced a drop in crime. Now, when I was on cnn, they didn't admit this, so I must have this episode of Scan Ed.
- [60:42]
Dave Rubin
All right, last time I saw you, you were going to cnn, right?
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah. I've got a lot to tell you about that, Dave. In the meantime. Okay, so there was a huge spike in immigration arrests. Property crime is down 19%. Violent crime is down 17%. Robberies and car break. INS are down 40%. The U.S. marshals arrested 141 violent fugitives in Operation Memphis Streets. Okay, so now let's go to this video. Oh, one more thing I want to tell you. So he then turns to the homeless shelters and says, I'm cleaning all this up. You guys get the choice of rehab, counseling for mental health issues. We're going to put you in shelters. We got video of this one, so I want you to watch this one. So let's see this one. Guys, can I see this 58 second video here?
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Dave Rubin
In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help re establish law order upon public safety in Washington, dc. And they're going to be allowed to do their job properly. And you people are victims of it, too. You know, you're reporters and I understand a lot of you tend to be on the liberal side. But you don't want to get. You don't want to get mugged and raped and shot and killed. And you all know people and friends of yours that that happened.
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Jillian Melchior
Homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment to be taken to a homeless shelter to be offered addiction or mental health services.
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Dave Rubin
Hey, how are you?
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Jillian Melchior
Okay.
- [62:28]
Dave Rubin
Excuse us.
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Jillian Melchior
I don't know what you're doing.
- [62:33]
Dave Rubin
Did I do it right?
- [62:36]
Jillian Melchior
All right, well, I don't.
- [62:37]
Dave Rubin
I don't know. I want that guy on the show. Whatever just happened right now, I don't.
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Jillian Melchior
Know, but the reality is, it's actually working.
- [62:43]
Dave Rubin
Yeah, I'm shocked. You mean if you tell people that you're gonna clean up cities and you actually start doing something, it starts cleaning up cities? Is that what you're telling?
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Jillian Melchior
That's what I'm telling you.
- [62:50]
Dave Rubin
My God, A lot has happened since I've been gone. First off, I love what Trump says there. It's so exactly why Trump is great. He goes, a lot of you are on the more liberal side, but you don't want to be mugged and shot and raped and murdered. And you know the saying, of course. Which is, a conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged by reality. And that's what you. Right. Like, literally, you. So many of us. Why I love the left. So many of the old school liberals all woke up partially because of COVID or because of crime in the cities or whatever it might have been, because suddenly you're like, oh, I would prefer not to be stabbed with a hypodermic needle when I'm going to take my kids to the library. So, okay. Sometimes it takes a scary conservative to clean things up. So that all seems good. I do want to know more about the guy who was just. Was that a guy or who the hell was that?
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Jillian Melchior
I don't know. But it has been, in my opinion, given the statistics, a huge success. And as mentioned, the police chief. And now. Okay, hold on. Pam Bondi also basically took away her power to now call it a sanctuary city. So they're staging a takeover.
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Dave Rubin
There should be no such thing as a sanctuary city. Like, come on.
- [64:04]
Jillian Melchior
Okay, okay. All right. So nevertheless, it looks like a staggering success. Of course, the left is like. It's authoritarian. He's taking over our cities. Oh, my God. And this is what I mean when I tell you, resist at all costs. Because it's like, are you not happy? Look at the numbers. There's no innocent here. We don't have a story of, oh, they accidentally shot an innocent guy taking his daughter to school because there's such authoritarian monsters.
- [64:30]
Dave Rubin
It's none of that.
- [64:31]
Jillian Melchior
Just bad guys going to jail.
- [64:33]
Dave Rubin
It's not compassionate to have criminals out on the street. It's not compassionate to have homeless people setting up encampments and drugs everywhere, like in San Francisco. That's not compassion. That's the reverse of compassion. They have faux compassion. That's the thing.
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Jillian Melchior
Can I highlight a little hypocrisy for.
- [64:47]
Dave Rubin
You that I personally enjoyed?
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, so they all went crazy when they cleaned up the homeless encampments. Right. But somehow we forgot Gavin Newsom's photo op in 2024. Remember when he pushed on the Supreme Court to allow him to force cities to clean up the homeless encampments?
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
And then showed up for the photo op, like, taking all the homeless people's stuff and throwing it in the garbage.
- [65:10]
Dave Rubin
Do we have a picture? I'm so real.
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Jillian Melchior
We definitely have a picture of it. But my point is, like, when Gavin does it, of course.
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Dave Rubin
Remember when Xi Jinping came to San Francisco and they suddenly managed to get all the homeless people were all gone. And then they all appeared, like, three days later. Where the hell did they put them?
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Jillian Melchior
I don't know. I hope you. I hope you gave them all their stuff in the process.
- [65:30]
Dave Rubin
You know, he's grinding them up and using them as hair gel.
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Jillian Melchior
I don't disagree with you. I don't. Now here's where this gets a little nuts. So in Trump fashion, he says that he is going to deploy the military to Chicago and then New York and then possibly LA. Now in D.C. he can do that legally, but I don't see how he does it in Chicago, New York and la. I'm not quite sure I get the Insurrection Act. I have no idea.
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Dave Rubin
Right. I guess it's the insurrection, Right. For crime. Because that's different than when you deploy to find illegals, which is the job of the federal government. So have they done any of this yet?
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Jillian Melchior
Not yet, but it has been such a staggering success. And it's so funny because the left is like, oh, yeah, until it comes to a city near you. And I was like, yes, please, please come clean up la. Can LA be next?
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Dave Rubin
You know, it's so funny. One of the things that I thought of a lot during the month is because I was just doing things around the house and I'm like, here and just doing errands and just stuff. Here in Miami, it's so clean, it's so pleasant, it's so safe. You go out at Night. There's no. You know, it's not that nothing happens here. Right. There's no perfect system, but it's just it functions the way it should. So that's another reason why my general, I thought might be a little bit off, because I was like, oh, I'm just around. I'm in my bubble here. That is a goodness bubble. Because of. It's not a miracle, though. It's just not. It didn't just like come out of nothing. Right. It didn't just like peer out of osmosis. It came out of proper governance and really good people that realized that they should have some skin in the game and get involved, and then it turns into proper policing and all those things. So, yeah, if he suddenly was like, I have to send the troops to Miami, I'd be like, all right, now we got a problem here. But sending them to the places.
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Jillian Melchior
You saw what happened over in Chicago over Labor Day. Did you wait yesterday over the whole Labor Day weekend?
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Dave Rubin
I didn't.
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Jillian Melchior
Shootings, deaths.
- [67:21]
Dave Rubin
You know, I've been off the grid.
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Jillian Melchior
For the month, even the Labor Day. I thought maybe you caught some.
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Dave Rubin
No, nothing.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, I have no idea.
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Dave Rubin
There were shootings in Chicago.
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Jillian Melchior
I mean. Yeah, the usual.
- [67:30]
Dave Rubin
Well, shit.
- [67:31]
Jillian Melchior
Pretty bad. So that's.
- [67:33]
Dave Rubin
How many? How many? I mean, there's always shootings in Chicago.
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Jillian Melchior
50.
- [67:36]
Dave Rubin
Oh, that even.
- [67:37]
Jillian Melchior
I don't know how many were killed. Phoenix, how many? I've been trying to sort of. There's video of it and people on the ground and there's bullets flying.
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Dave Rubin
Right. So is it compassionate to just be like, all right, we're gonna give the city up to the warlords? Like, of course not.
- [67:49]
Jillian Melchior
I have to wonder. This is kind of my point. I've got some such crazy shit to show you. But this is sort of my point with the left, where it's just resist at all costs.
- [67:58]
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
And you make great things out of. Of horrible things. But see the thing, Homeless people on the streets. It's awesome.
- [68:05]
Dave Rubin
The thing is, is it not obvious to you as a, let's say, more recent convert or whatever you want to call it, Isn't it not obvious to you that the last liberals. So the Bobby Kennedys and the Tulsi's and the. You and me and Rogan, whoever that thing was, Elon, all these people, we were the last bulwark on the left before the. The crazy was there. And it was growing and growing and growing and we all saw it and identity politics and pronouns and blah, blah, blah, and everything's racist and there Was this. There was like a group of us, right? Like, originally it was Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris. And this. There was like this group of us that were trying to do it. Then it kind of expanded. And then at some point, enough of us were like, all right, we're jumping ship and we're gonna hang with the conservatives for whatever differences we have. And we're good. But we all love the country, we love freedom, and we love goodness and law and order and blah, blah. And now there's just nobody left. So what happens? You end up basically in like a Bane Batman situation where the scarecrow's doing fake trials and then they're sending people out onto the ice. That's not that far from it.
- [69:04]
Jillian Melchior
No.
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Dave Rubin
Like, you're gonna end up in just places where there will be sheer insanity, 100%. And then there will be people who remove themselves from the insanity. That's partly what red blue. The red blue separation is. But it's. I think I want to jump. Go.
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, okay. Yes. Okay. I don't. Okay. I can't jump ahead. I can't jump ahead. I have to.
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Dave Rubin
Scarecrow doing trials. If I nailed that one.
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Jillian Melchior
People are trying to prevent. And I'll give you an example coming up now. Red states are trying to prevent.
- [69:33]
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Jillian Melchior
And people from blue states moving in and making zero connection to the way they voted with regard to the policy that they fled.
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Dave Rubin
I'm very interested in where you're going with this.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, so we'll get there. We'll get there. But the long and the short of it is this is working and it's kind of awesome. And I will say that I watched a video of a Black Conservative on YouTube and, and he was saying that black on black crime is down in D.C. and he was giving Trump props about that because of course they were like, oh, Everybody's so racist. The entire right is racist. And I thought that was really interesting because it's like any policing now of black communities is considered racist, usually by white liberals. And it was very interesting to see a black man saying, like, huh, black on black crime is down from the racist president.
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Dave Rubin
As Trump said, even you more liberal people, you don't want to be raped, do you? It's like that, right? Unless you kind of do. And I think in some sense, they kind of do actually, like in some weird. But. All right, all right, let's go, let's go.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Okay, Immigration stuff. So now this gets a little. This one is highly controversial, and I'll get to that in a minute.
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Dave Rubin
But.
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Jillian Melchior
But let me give you the facts. So the State department announces on August 20, the nationals of Malawi and Zambia applying for a B1, B2 business and tourist visa will be required to post up to $15,000 bond deterring visa overstays. Okay, so, yeah, you get the little hole. All right, so now just. Just the rundowns. August 8, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia just vacated Judge Busberg, some probably mispronouncing that order holding the Trump administration in criminal contempt for deporting illegals under the Illegal Alien Enemies Act.
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Dave Rubin
So that's good.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, that's great. We're going. We're going.
- [72:04]
Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
Superman actor Dean Cain is gonna join ice. What?
- [72:10]
Dave Rubin
I know Dean. We saw Dean at the airport not too long ago. Yeah. All right. That's fun. Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
I wonder if he'll have to. I mean, he's super mag. I don't know. He'll have to wear a mask. Okay. August 9th, Trump announces the judges can no longer block his policies nationwide. However.
- [72:28]
Dave Rubin
Wait, Trump announces Now, the Supreme Court.
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Jillian Melchior
Ruled on the whole, like, okay, one federal judge nationwide. Okay. However, you know, there's workarounds, obviously, by filing a class action lawsuit. And you're seeing that with the dreamers. The left is already onto that and into it. And there you have it. I. You know, there's always a loophole that both parties look for, and this is theirs. But he felt very excited about the victory at the time. All right, Marco Rubio has halted all visitor visas from Gaza, California. Oh, now this is a bummer. Yeah, this one sucks. This is sad. California granted an illegal named Harinder C missing a commercial driver's license, and he killed three people in Florida by performing an illegal U turn on a Florida turnpike. Now, this guy doesn't speak English. He failed All English proficiency tests and road sign tests. And there's a. There's a video of this one.
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Dave Rubin
The White House's rapid response social media account reposted a video of the accident with a statement criticizing the state of California for grant a commercial driver's license.
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Jillian Melchior
The White House posting this, this individual is an illegal immigrant who was granted a commercial driver's license by the state of California, and now three innocent people are dead. A White House spokesperson adding, this is a devastating tragedy made even worse by the fact that it was totally preventable. Illegal aliens that have no legal right to be in our country certainly should not be granted commercial driver's licenses.
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Dave Rubin
I mean, how absolutely insane. Like, okay, so fine, the guy comes in. That's one thing we already know. Okay, so a gajillion people have done that. How do you give the guy a commercial driver's license?
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Jillian Melchior
So here's what he did. Here's what he did. He did what everyone's doing and tried to use the asylum loophole, right? So, by the way, who's running for their lives from India? Like, there's no genocide happening there. It's. He's not. Nevertheless, there's. There's no credible claim.
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Dave Rubin
Obviously, you've never had day old butter chicken quite grueling on the stomach. All right.
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Jillian Melchior
Listen, you make a good point. You know, I didn't find that when I was researching this story, but possibly that's it. Nevertheless, he comes here illegally in 2018. Does the I need a second asylum game? Of course, the case is yet to be adjudicated, and given Biden's policies, he was allowed to apply for a work permit while you wait, which can take like seven to 10 years. Exactly. So they, you know, and the whole asylum system has been backed up because of this. And true, refugees are being denied relocation and. And so on and so forth. So nevertheless, this guy knows the game, plays it. He gets the work permit, and then he essentially games the system with translators and somehow pretends he can speak English because you do have to speak English to get the license in California. So in all fairness, not to get.
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Dave Rubin
Into the country just to get the.
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Jillian Melchior
Commercial driver, just to get the license. So he somehow, like, games the system and pretends he can speak English to get this license. And in all fairness, like I would love to say, oh, Gavin Newsom. And I, you know, I cannot stand Newsom. But the reality is the guy did follow all the rules to get the work permit. And, you know, these are all our policy problems that need to change.
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Dave Rubin
Sure, that's not. That's really not an excuse of Newsom because he's still the chief executive of the state. That's allowing a lot of stuff.
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Jillian Melchior
Listen, I totally agree, but the thing, like, you're supposed to speak English. He somehow gained the whole. Like, there was no rule that he didn't have to speak English or know how to drive. He just found a way to pretend like he did. So there's. There's that, and he ends up killing a bunch of people. So in response to that, Marco Rubio froze the issuing of all worker visas for commercial truck drivers. And he states that foreign drivers operating tractor trailer trucks are endangering Americans and undercutting the livelihoods of American truckers. And then I gave you the whole background on this guy. Now, here's one thing to note, and this is important. His initial application for a work permit was denied under the Trump administration in September 2020, but it was approved under the Biden administration in June 2021.
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Dave Rubin
Well, good for Rubio. Look, you should not have illegals driving trucks cross country. And we have to deal with this. Either we deal with this now. This is the one opportunity we will have as a nation to deal with this stuff. Europe, it's too late for most of Europe, certainly Western Europe, not Eastern Europe. So we either deal with this stuff right now or we don't. So good for Rubio. And by the way, truckers. Truckers who are usually amazed. Do you know any truckers? Truckers are incredible people. Actually, I do. When I had a Show on Sirius XM, like, 15 years ago or something, most of the call ins, the people that would call into the show were truckers because they're just listening to stuff all day. I found them to be the most, like, thoughtful, smart, interesting, because they just have time to, like, think about the world and drive across the country. It's a really interesting psychological makeup of someone that's a trucker that spends their life basically, you know, like, going like this all the time. They're going to be replaced by robots anyway, like so many other things. So the idea that you'd be, you know, it's sort of like when they say, okay, bring in the illegals. They have someone else to pick our tomatoes. It's like, okay, well, the robots are gonna pick our tomatoes soon, and then what are you gonna do with those people? So good for Rubio.
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Jillian Melchior
The one thing I will tell you that I'm observing is a little bit of pushback on the right. Actually on this. And you're starting to see somebody Know, a good, hardworking, tax paying person who's entered the country illegally. And as it's affecting people personally, you're starting to see them, oh, well, they're.
- [78:32]
Dave Rubin
Upset that their housekeeper's not gonna be as cheap.
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Jillian Melchior
I mean, I'll give you an example.
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Dave Rubin
That's true, actually.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, not that one. I actually hate that example because of course it's like a way to maintain like a serfdom of this class that just stays your housekeeper forever because she's not here legally and has no upward mobility because of that. And that is gross, but not so much that. And you know, I was watching Officer Tatum. Do you ever watch him?
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Dave Rubin
Yeah, yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
And there was a lady that ran a restaurant and she was here for 30 years. And he basically was saying, if we don't find a way for good people who want to do the right thing to get a path to citizenship, the other side's going to do it and they're going to win those voters over. There's got to be a way to allow and facilitate good, hard working people to contribute, to pay taxes, to take, you know, to give more than they take. Which traditionally when immigrants are allowed to come in legally, their kids do better in school, they start more small businesses, they have huge upward mobility, they pay more into the system than they take. But the way the laws have been set up, especially because of the Biden administration, it's, it's. You're seeing this, right? So people killed on a turnpike in Florida, right?
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Dave Rubin
So that's. That in some, obviously is horrific. I'm guessing nobody really knows their names, right? We never know the names of the people that get killed. We only know the name of the bad people, which is also a cultural problem. As for that specific thing, I mean, look, we all have that. Hopefully everyone has a little of that humanity in them, right? So this woman that's been here 30 years, that raised the family and that basically did everything right, is the goal of all of this to eliminate all of those people and upend so much? Most people, I don't think really think that the problem is, I mean, we've come back this 10 times already. But the problem is the left has gone so crazy with everything and they never give credit nor an inch to the right on anything that there's no. The amount of people on the right that would naturally have sympathy to a lot of that are basically like effort, effort. We're just going to do what we got to do. And at the end of the day, you either have laws or you don't So I don't know what the answer to that is. Is most people, in their hearts of hearts, are you trying to rip away the 36 year old woman with one kid who's here working, that is legal, that loves America and everything else? Most people, the answer is no. But either a law exists or not. So I don't know Exactly. And again, what was the country you mentioned before? If I went to Zimbabwe, like if I went to Zimbabwe and I was there 10 extra years and they found me, they would kick me out and it would be within their rights. So that's why this is so complex. And again, it's why everything that the right, let's say overreacts to is because the left is so insane, all they have to do is not be so insane all the time. But now there's nobody left insane, though.
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Jillian Melchior
And you know how the right. Our woke is dead. I'm like, not really. It's actually alive and well.
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Dave Rubin
Well, you haven't mentioned anything out of New York City yet with the election there. And I'm very curious about that because that's recalibration of woke.
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Jillian Melchior
I'm about to get there. Yeah. If Bernie was the architect, like this is what the. All right, we'll get there.
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Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, so what else do I have for you here on this one? August 18th, stats show that ICE is deporting 1400 illegal immigrants a day. State Department revokes over 6000 student visas over assault, support of terrorism and overstays. August 19th. Boston Mayor Michelle Wu opened her Boston press conference against Trump's crime crackdown with Singh. Okay, got a video. I don't.
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Dave Rubin
Everybody. Yeah, good, good. Keep going, Democrats. Keep going. Woo. Who had a Christmas. Remember, you know, she's the mayor of Boston who had the Christmas party only for her colored employees. Like, okay, okay. Keep going, lady.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay.
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Dave Rubin
All right.
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Jillian Melchior
The United States immigration population is now declining for the first time in 50 years.
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Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
All right. August 23rd, the State Department reviewed 55 million visa holders for deportable violations. August 23rd. Okay, this one whack a doodle dandy. Are you ready? Woo. So Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
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Dave Rubin
Yes.
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Jillian Melchior
It looks like he's going to be deported to Uganda in response to this.
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Dave Rubin
To Uganda.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, here's why.
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Dave Rubin
You gotta be kidding me.
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Jillian Melchior
Nah, I'm not. Because he's here under his asylum claim, as you know. But if you're afraid to go back.
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Dave Rubin
To your country, oh, we send it to you guys.
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Jillian Melchior
We still have a deportation order on good old Kilmar. So if we have a deal with a third party country who's willing to take him, I mean, he's. He's already got a deportation order. So if we can't send him back to. We're out.
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Dave Rubin
El Salvador.
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Jillian Melchior
Right.
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Dave Rubin
Wait, so we're sending a simple Maryland man?
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Jillian Melchior
Just. I know.
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Dave Rubin
Just a regular Maryland man now.
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Jillian Melchior
I've got more for you on this one, okay? People were so upset.
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Dave Rubin
They love this guy.
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Jillian Melchior
Again, they don't care about a vigil for him, okay. Where Glenn Ivy, one of the congressmen in Maryland, showed up and they sang and they prayed and they cried and they wept. And for anybody who's been living under a rock that isn't familiar with Kilmar, feed his wife. Do we have a video of that? I mean, we don't. Can I see?
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Dave Rubin
I like videos of these people crying. And they cry and they sing. Yeah, yeah. I love the crying.
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Jillian Melchior
Of course, the gays are out for Kilmar, just like we love him.
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Dave Rubin
He's a human trafficker. Yes.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay. Okay. So we have a video on that. We're pulling that up. But long story short, Kristi Noem, listen to this. As we were talking about the media earlier, omitting facts and lying and manipulating narratives, she gives a whole speech about Kilmar and bye, bye, Kilmar. And this is what we know about Kilmar. And it's like soliciting nudes from minors and beating the crap out of his wife.
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Dave Rubin
He beat his wife with a boot. He was human trafficker.
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Jillian Melchior
Being a human, the whole thing, right? And they have got informants that have come forward. Long story short, CBS edits all of that out of her speech or talk or whatever, her press conference. And it looks like they're gonna sue cbs. And CBS goes, we were just cutting it for time, so you cut out the part.
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Dave Rubin
Evil. Have we not been through this, Tim?
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Jillian Melchior
Being scum of the earth. And the left is holding a vigil for Kilmar. May the divine bless you and keep you, El senor.
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Dave Rubin
It's. It's perfect.
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Jillian Melchior
Singing and shouting.
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Dave Rubin
With my mind, I. I really forgot about some of this stuff. Like that this stuff exists. Like the fake rabbi. The queer morons. Are these real people? Is this real life? Remember that video 20 years ago? The kid who had his tooth taken out? Daddy, is this real life? That's what this is. These absurdly ridiculous buffoons send them all to Uganda.
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Jillian Melchior
Well, see, that's. This is exactly what you're talking about. How the left gets so crazy that the right is like, I Can't anymore. Enough of this. Which is such a shame. And I can't. You can't figure out of all the people to hang your hat on, the guy's name is literally kill Mark.
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Dave Rubin
Kill.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah, the left is crazier than ever. All right, we got some stuff on social issues. This is about to get good. Brown University made a deal with Trump to regain federal funding, which. Which includes paying 50 million and scrapping affirmative action.
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Dave Rubin
Great. I mean, the Supreme Court already decided on that. Fantastic. Done. Oh, you're not going to choose people to come into your school based on race. Wow. Welcome to 2025. Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay. A lot on that for you. Coming up now, then. So with that said, remember how we talked about how some of these red states are trying to blueproof?
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Dave Rubin
Yeah, I like it.
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Jillian Melchior
So Prageru has created a test for teachers in Oklahoma that they have to take. It's called the America First Test. So take a look. We got a little video for you on this one.
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Dave Rubin
Love it.
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Jillian Melchior
All right, so for anybody who's got teachers in their family in Oklahoma, this is a story you'll probably want to listen to, because there are teachers that are relocating there from progressive states who will now be evaluated on a the America first agenda. Oklahoma as a state now is going to require new teachers pass an America first test to keep their license. They're going to have to have knowledge of the US Constitution, an understanding of American exceptionalism, a grasp of fundamental biological differences between boys and girls. Perhaps for some, this sounds like common sense.
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Dave Rubin
I mean, you have to love the fact that it's, like, understand the Constitution.
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Jillian Melchior
What are the first.
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Dave Rubin
That's pretty good. And then do you know the difference between boys and girls? I am completely for this. I love the fact that Prageru is involved with it. That is spectacular. Because otherwise, all of the recently mugged and murdered and raped liberals will come down, they will vote the wrong way, and they will destroy everything. That's why Florida is such a miracle, because the liberals who have come down here have become the craziest red people. And that's why Miami is now, like, the most Republican stronghold in the country, even though it was blue 10 years ago. So that is great. That is wonderful. I hope more of that. I'm still telling Desantis there should be an entry tax. We should still dig a moat and throw gators with lasers on their heads.
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Jillian Melchior
I'm. You know what's interesting about that one, actually, is I had this fight on cnn, which I am getting to, of how immoral and evil Alligator Alcatraz was. But I had a friend, I didn't know this at the time when I got into this whole argument, because I argued that the cages would be far more offensive built by Obama. My friend's like, you know, that's where like the National Guard used to stay, right? You think they just pop that up? He's like, it was good enough for our military, but we're really upset about people who are here illegally staying there. But we weren't worried when a guard was staying there.
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Dave Rubin
We drove across Alligator Alley just to a few days ago. And I should have stopped and taken the kids for a little time, a little visit.
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Jillian Melchior
I know. Okay, so there you have the Prageru situation.
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Dave Rubin
That's great.
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Jillian Melchior
And it mostly is for teachers coming from California, of course. It's like, do you know literally what makes a boy, what makes a girl? You know, chromosome conversation. Anyway, speaking of chromosomes.
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Dave Rubin
Yes.
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, Nancy Pelosi. Pelosi is working hard to legalize sex changes for kids at the national level after Trump signed an order to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation. I'm sure you're not surprised, but take a look. How is your office responding to the causes in gender affirming care here in California? Well, that is something that I'm working for at the national level. And we have some. How can I say, are hoping that we can have gender affirming here for our. For our trans kids and that it's a sad thing for us.
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Dave Rubin
You know, let me try to do this in the most. Like I said to you at the top, like, I'm trying. I don't want to add, especially on the day I'm back. I don't want to add to like all the hate and everything else. That's like kind of demon level stuff.
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Jillian Melchior
I was gonna say. Can I. Do you mind if I add to it?
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Dave Rubin
I kid you not. I showed the kids a couple times during the break. We watched Spidey and Friends. It's like a little animated thing. They're only three. It's really for like six year olds, so David doesn't want me showing it to them. We mostly do Bluey, but I show them Spider man and they're both running around pretending to be. And then I got them a couple Spider man toys. So they're pretending to be Spider man and Green Goblin and Electro, whatever. And they'll be like, I'm Spider Man. I'm Spider Man. But it's a joke and you can see the glimmer in their eyes. They know they're not Spider Man. They know they're not Dr. Octopus. It's not to say. Whatever that percentage is and all the stuff I hate making all the excuses, it's so boring. But for her to be like, we're gonna try to nationalize that at this point. Lady, go away. What are you doing? Lady, go play with your grandchildren. Go sit with your sister stocks and watch your money go up every day. Just go away already. Enough of these demon people. I don't know how to describe it. If the world corrects itself ever, if the earth ever heals, we will look back. As Jordan calls. These are butchers. What they have done to young children, that is not to say an adult can't dress however they want, blah, blah, blah. But evil, I can't believe. I mean still. Does she still think that's a winner? You think that's a winner, lady?
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Jillian Melchior
Here's my theory on this one. Obviously, Big pharma is one of the biggest lobbies in Washington. It is a multi billion dollar business with a compound annual growth rate of roughly 9%. So it's a huge industry. One drug alone, like Lupron, off label, which is an off label cancer drug, right, that they're giving to, to kids is a multi billion dollar business. I think that's what this is about. If I had to guess, because the data is there. We have the cast review by Dr. Hilary Cass, one of the top pediatricians out of the United Kingdom who spent four years doing a systematic review of every single study involving gender affirming care. You've got Shellenberger releasing the WPATH files showing all of the corruption and involved in this industry. Europe pulls back after the cast review and is like, okay, hold on. We gotta rethink this whole gender affirming situation on kids. We know it sterilizes them. We know it causes sexual dysfunction for the rest of their life. It affects their bone development, their brain development, their teeth literally crack in their skull. It's like, we know all of this. There's no way. This isn't like a. Oh, I'm worried they're gonna kill themselves. We already know, actually they're more likely to kill themselves after being transitioned from the regret. So she's not an idiot. Try to be a demon person, but she's not dumb. Dave.
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Dave Rubin
It's so interesting because like, it's hard to imagine. It's actually hard to imagine someone selling out at that level for money. Right? Everyone makes compromises in life. Everyone, whatever. But like someone that would be like, I'm Going to literally, like. Like destroy the lives of. If it's as simple in some sense as what you're saying, right, like that they're just looking at numbers, right? Like, it's probably, like, it's probably not much more complex than you're offering.
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Jillian Melchior
No, it's not.
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Dave Rubin
Because. Because it's so hard.
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Jillian Melchior
We have the data. It's not, I promise you.
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Dave Rubin
No, no, I don't have the data, no. So I'm with you on that, but I just. It would be hard to be in the mind, like, if we were sitting here truly with Nancy Pelosi and the camera wasn't going. Is she really, like, I really believe that these children. Or is it really the numbers? And if it's the numbers, like, it's literally like the cash.
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Jillian Melchior
Here'd be my question to you, though. If you're going to make a decision with consequences that severe and you're in a position that holds that kind of power, would you not be responsible enough to do the research? So she's either a complete moron or she's on the take. So you get.
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Dave Rubin
Right.
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Jillian Melchior
So that's why there's no middle of the road here. It's not a guessing game. There's no plausible deniability. The information exists. So you tell me.
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Dave Rubin
I mean, I think that's why I quote him all the time. But about 10 years ago, when I heard my friend Pete Boghossian, who you probably know, say that when woke enters something, it destroys the entire institution. And that's what it's done to these people's brains. It's what Gad Saad called the Woke mind virus, that it actually then supersedes all the other logic and reason and everything else. And then. So you end up like. Because the best version of what we'd be saying about Pelosi is she's just misguided. But that just doesn't. Like, there's just no way that computes. So you're right. It's either you're like, corrupt, evil, insane, something, something, or just you're just a sellout. And that's. And I guess the easier answer is.
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Jillian Melchior
Probably there's just no way she could be. There's no plausible deniability anymore because the research exists and you have a responsibility to do it. We're talking about kids.
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Dave Rubin
It's also not adults. It's also what's so dangerous about what they've done. Because it's like when you call someone racist, that's not racist. You do it for so long that when you wake up and then you're like, oh, maybe that person isn't racist. Well, you know, now you're gonna be called a racist. So they're all in on it. They're all in on it together and that. Yeah. All right.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay. I got a question for you.
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Dave Rubin
Yes.
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Jillian Melchior
What is more likely, uh, oh, the New York Times gave me a fair shake in my op ed, or CNN launched a national campaign to brand me as a racist.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, you made some news. That's nice. Well, I would say it's definitely possible the New York Times gave you a fair shake in an op ed because. Because they occasionally do that. Every. They go, what the New York Times always does is they lead with insanity, and then they suddenly throw something in that's sane so that the few people that have neurons firing stay subscribed. Something like that. So that strikes me as very much what the New York Times might do.
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Jillian Melchior
Interesting.
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Dave Rubin
And the other one was, did CNN launch a campaign to destroy you? That seems. Yeah, that seems likely. So.
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, my God, you've got it.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah. Oh, that seems. I've been around the game a while, sister. Come on. Whatever.
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Jillian Melchior
So this is important because it ties back to this whole thing with Trump wanting to pull federal funding from the Smithsonian museums because of certain exhibits that we're going to get into in just a moment. But he wants to revisit some of these installations, some of these exhibits within the Smithsonian museums. And of course, the left has gone bananas on this, right? So I reach out. I'm going on cnn, and I must admit that I was warned by you. And I was warned by you.
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Dave Rubin
We should play that clip. That was in July.
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Jillian Melchior
I. Megyn Kelly as well. And, you know, it's like. But it is very. I don't regret it. It's a conversation that we need to have. CNN might obviously not be the forum where you're allowed to have it. I do think it's imperative that we bridge ideologies. We talk to the other side. That's clearly not the point of Abby Phillips show on Phillips show on cnn. So, nevertheless, this is coming up, right? So I get the list of topics, and one is the Smithsonian, and I know exactly where they're going to go. And I've just gotten back from Africa, by the way, Dee. So I'm out of the loop, like, you are, right? And I'm like, oh, my God, I got to jump back into this. I don't really know anything about this. And I reach out to the comms team at the White House and I say, like, hey, you know, this is going to come up. Can you tell me, like, what is the goal here? Because it is the Smithsonian. And I'm thinking, like, why are we revisiting? I know nothing about what's in there, nothing about what's controversial. And they send me 50 pages. Okay.
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Dave Rubin
And it's all just like, woke exhibitions and not. Yeah, yeah, that seems.
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Jillian Melchior
Banana pants. So it's. It's stuff like a white culture poster that has subsequently been removed where it talks about how we're inherently.
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Dave Rubin
Oh, I remember that one. That one. And we gotta win it all back.
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Jillian Melchior
It's stuff comparing George Floyd and Che Guevara to Jesus. It's stuff where they talk about Cuban immigration to the United States and they completely neglect to mention Castro and just make it about how, you know, the United States government backed Batista for their own financial gain and because of, you know, just like, white government did this. And that's why Cubans left, and that's what brought on the Cuban revolution. Don't even mention Castro one time. Then they get into gender testing in sports.
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Dave Rubin
Just all the stuff. Okay, right, yeah, got it.
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Jillian Melchior
So, okay, so now this comes up, and I know in my mind that they're going to try to pretend like it is about erasing slavery. And I know that there is not one installation that the administration has taken umbrage with that is about slavery. Now, Trump has subsequently gone on to say, look, it's all about, like, bad guys, white bad guys, and slavery, but why don't we have some good stuff in there, too? So that can't. Kind of came out later. So here's what happens. Take a look.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
Gone into the Smithsonian and he's effectively now has some random person deciding what is appropriate for the Smithsonian to teach in terms of American history, things that don't offend parts of the MAGA base. Right. So we're now literally reviewing parts of American history and parts of American culture to make sure it comports with Dear Leader and what the maga. Can we address some of those things that are in there? Because have you looked at some of the things that are being released? Yeah, slavery was a bad thing to talk about.
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Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
Like, he forgave. He's not whitewashing slavery. So he's not. He's not. No, he's not. And you cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does. Well, you have a lot of stuff. Yeah, I do, because I don't. Because here's the thing. Are you Talking about. Okay, I'll give you an example. Yeah, please. There's one called change your game. Right? This, this has been an installation. There is gender testing fair in sports does that. And then it goes on to talk about how it's complex to do gender testing in sports. It's not complex. It's basic science. That's untrue. It's XX chromosome, X, Y chromosome. That's sports. Is it fair to have biological men competing against biological women in sports? No. But why is this in the Smithsonian? So it's. Look, it's, it's been completely captured. First of all, I don't. And it's totally. We don't. First of all, we don't have time to litigate. We don't. Because then you're gonna lose the argument and if everything is racialized, just like you're trying to do to me now. So this, this took a bit of a turn. So here's what happened. So we're supposed to be in the middle of a conversation about the Smithsonian. So Julie Raginski is so smug and I'm about to nail her because I know she's making the whole thing up a buzzery because she has no idea what's even in there, right? So I'm like, no, he's not. With extreme confidence. And I'm like, by the way, sidebar, this has been going on for thousands of years. Like, stop demonizing just one race because nothing good is gonna come out of that, right? So I'm about to list all the things you and I just talked about. Then all of a sudden, Abby, Phillip and Richie Torres go, I can't believe you're trying to relitigate slavery in America. I go, I'm not. I just told you slavery's been around for thousands of of years. And we continue. They're like, oh, this is a system of oppression. And now we're having two separate conversations, right? And I'm like, okay, am I talking about the Smithsonian stuff? And like, there's nothing about slavery in the Smithsonian. Or I'm sorry, the installations he's taking umbrage with. And by the way, let's talk about slavery. So then I'm like, all right, you know what? I'm ready to take this on. Because I come back from Africa and there's nothing but really negative. They have racial stories in the news and it's bad. It's like a white woman who had a five year old black kid go through her back and she calls him the N word and then raises like almost a Million dollars online in defense of herself and to try to relocate. And then simultaneously, you've got the thing in the movie theater where arguably children of an unknown race beat up the Harvard professor. Then you've got two white people who, who get the crap beat out of them by a black mob.
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Dave Rubin
That happened right before I went off. Okay, so you saw that music festival or something, right?
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Jillian Melchior
So for me personally, and this is a bit of a sidebar, not August news, but I've never in my lifetime seen racial issues this bad. And I think it is.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah. Cause we're children of the 80s and we put all this shit down and these motherfuckers are trying to, to. Oh, that was my first theft bomb. There you go. We're back, baby.
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Jillian Melchior
It's. It's bad.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah, they're trying to rehash it's working and bring back all of this.
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Jillian Melchior
It is working.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
So at this point, now I'm about to take it on, right? And I was like, okay, do you realize that less than 2%, and this is from the 1860 census, right? Less than 2% of white Americans own slaves. And I'm about to continue on to say it ends up going in multiple directions. And then I'm like, this has been going on for, for thousands of years. And if we were to continue litigating, because you know, the argument is while the entire south built their economy on it, it's like, and despite that, the north banned it, like, and people fought and died to maintain it. And yes, we have entire cemeteries of people who fought and died to end it. It isn't about erasing slavery, but where is the part about the good guys? Why is that always left out of the equation? Why are you not teaching young white kids about the good white guys that died to end this evil? So, long story short, Abby Phillip and CNN launch a multi week campaign in numerous episodes of her show to brand me as a racist. She then goes on Kara Swisher's podcast and lies and she's like, I don't know. We were just having a conversation about the arts and she just brings this up. And I had to educate her and my whole show about the history of slavery. And she goes on to talk about how I defended white people in a slavery debate.
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Dave Rubin
Jesus.
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Jillian Melchior
And relitigate slavery in America, despite the fact that I said I'm not twice on her show. And that this has been going on for. For thousands of years.
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Dave Rubin
And this is all going bananas viral.
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Jillian Melchior
And all of a sudden all going bananas viral. Of course, like everybody on the right comes out, you know, and like, thank God you said something. It's about time we said something. Everybody on the left. Oh, she's a racist. And somebody should call dcfs. Cause she has a black kid. And I'm like, this is insane. And Dee, it's so bad right now in the country. And I've got some other clips for you of it, but it's.
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Dave Rubin
Let me just give you one take. Abby Phillips. I don't know if you've heard me talk about her before, but I genuinely. Oh, no. I must have said this to you because I was warning you about going on a show.
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Jillian Melchior
You did warn me.
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Dave Rubin
She is without question the dumbest person on television. There is nothing behind her eyes. She's an idiot who they. Who can read off a teleprompter somewhat appropriately. And then never. Then she looks like a deer in headlights the entire time until either someone tells her to say something or she throws a commercial. There's not. She is. We talked about. We started with cogs and the system. She is a cog in the system. They gave her that chair and they will take away that chair as quickly as they gave it to her one day. And then she'll sue them for being racist. That's how this game and the script is written.
- [105:33]
Jillian Melchior
Prior to this, on the episode of her show that I did about the kids at the marijuana farm.
- [105:39]
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
- [105:40]
Jillian Melchior
Do you know she flat out lied on her show and said that it was legal for miners.
- [105:44]
Dave Rubin
Oh, I remember that. That was a few days.
- [105:46]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah, I like. I don't think so. Yes, it is. Of course it's absolutely not. Do you think they issued a correction?
- [105:54]
Dave Rubin
We stopped. We covered that a few days before I left and I paused the show. I said to one of the guys, could you. Could we just Google that? I'm pretty sure that illegal. Can't work it.
- [106:03]
Jillian Melchior
They are not allowed to work at a marijuana farm. But she drilled down on it. She absolutely insisted. She contradicted and corrected me despite the fact that I was right. Did no correction or apology after the. The fact being like, we were wrong. Actually. Minors are not allowed to work at a marijuana farm.
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Dave Rubin
Well, good for you. Go. And can I for one second try the meta version of what's happening here, which is that you represent. You're like sort of in this case, you're like the avatar for the new media. And because we're still in this fight between old and new media. And it doesn't mean that all the new media is good either. But because these things are now so disconnected. What they try to do is they try to then bring on new media people into old media formats. And it doesn't work right because you have very scripted people with things in their ears, being told what to say, reading things. And then you have people like you who are thoughtful and interesting and show nuance, who know what they're doing. So it's as if the ingredient doesn't work with the overall what you're trying to bake, basically.
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Jillian Melchior
It's really delivered, though, Dave. Like, she outlawed multiple.
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Dave Rubin
Of course it's delivered.
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Jillian Melchior
Like the conversation that we were just having a talk about the arts. Julie Roginski just called parts of the MAGA base racist, made the Dear Leader, like Nazi Kim Jong Un reference to Trump, and then said, slavery's bad. We should talk about it. A conversation about the arts, and then claim that I brought it up and lied numerous times about it. This is the stuff we were talking about earlier with. How do you handle these with the legacy media? I'm working through that now, but I guarantee I'm not letting everybody get away with it. That's all I'm gonna say right now.
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Dave Rubin
As John McLean said in Die Hard, welcome to the party, pal.
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Jillian Melchior
I guess so. But it's a fight I'm here for, for sure. And the last thing I want to say about this, truthfully, is that as a mom to a white boy and a black girl, this stuff distresses me.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah.
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Jillian Melchior
I would say, honestly, more than anything going on in our culture right now. And I see young boys my son's age leaning towards things that are very far right. And, you know, the Tate brothers, Nick Fuentes, that's deeply alarming to me. And the more you demonize these young boys. Not my son, but I hear about it, he tells me about it. The more you demonize these kids, the more you're gonna breed a whole new generation of racists.
- [108:28]
Dave Rubin
Do you remember we've shown it on my show many times. There's a clip of Jordan on Rogan, Jordan Peterson, obviously on Rogan from probably about eight years ago. And it's at the height of. It was almost before we called it Woke. So it's like early woke identity politics. And Jordan says, maybe we'll play it on my show tomorrow. Jordan says, wait till you see what the reaction will be of young white boys who will grow up in this situation.
- [108:54]
Jillian Melchior
So true.
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Dave Rubin
And again, so everything, whatever people think the excesses are of the right, it's because the left never knows when they've gone too far. They have Created the condition. They own the culture and then they created the conditions to then tell young. I can only imagine being the parent, the mother of a 14 year old. How old did you say your son? He's 13. At the 13 year old kid who's grown up in a culture that said you're bad because of your skin color, you're bad because of your sexuality, your gender, all these things, like boys are leaning.
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Jillian Melchior
Dave, not again. Like Phoenix has my son Phoenix, you're Phoenix has like my son Phoenix over here, sense of the center and you know, he leans into the Sean Ryan's and the Joe Rogans of the world, which is great. But the friends, some of them are leaning very far right and it's, it's very concerning. And you're seeing high schools in the middle of the country. Take back the name of Robert E. Lee and bring back the Confederate flag. And I don't think it's because these kids are like clan members. I think it's just a giant fu to this whole kind of demonization of these young white boys. And simultaneously, you know, I have a place black daughter being raised by all white people wasn't on purpose that Haiti was a country that was open while I was adopting internationally. Long story short, like, why do I want my daughter to think all white people are bad? I absolutely do not want her to think that. In fact, I bought her on this one trip and then we'll get back to the news. We were in New Orleans one summer when she was probably 8, and I bought her the diary of a Union soldier from one of those Indians antique stores from 1861. It's the coolest thing in the world, Dave. It's like handwritten. And I always wanted her to know. As much darkness as there is in the world, there are still good guys. And at the end of the day, like, I will stay.
- [110:47]
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Jillian Melchior
Stand by it. Like there were good guys that fought to end this. And I want my daughter to know not all white people are bad. In fact, the vast majority are good.
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Dave Rubin
So that's the latest, more controversial.
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Jillian Melchior
Oh, aren't I?
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Dave Rubin
Well, congratulations, you know, getting in the fray and having Abby go after you the rest of it.
- [111:45]
Jillian Melchior
So there we go. Okay, so now moving on.
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Dave Rubin
Yes.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, this is good news. Trump economy. The Canadian Prime Minister, Mark Carney announces that Canada will be dropping the retaliatory tariffs against the US and removing tariffs on US Goods covered by existing trade deals. Got a video on it. Let's take a look.
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Dave Rubin
So let's be absolutely clear. Canada currently has the best trade deal with the United States. And, well, it's different from what we had before. It is still better than that of any other country. So as we work to address outstanding trade issues with the United States, it's important, it's vital we do everything we can to preserve this unique advantage for Canadian workers, Canadian businesses. In this context and consistent with Canada's commitment to Kuzma, I'm announcing today that the Canadian government will now match. We will now match the United States by removing all of Canada's tariffs on U.S. goods specifically covered under Cuzma.
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Jillian Melchior
Wow, Progress.
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Dave Rubin
Yeah, surprise, surprise again. I mean, that's just one of the ones that I was like, yes, David Sacks. I like the line. We have to just see where all the deals land. And yes, congratulations. Now you can buy cheese in Canada from America without a 30% tariff so that nobody was buying American cheese, like, and it seems like he's trying to save face a little bit. Okay, good. Get back into negotiations. Okay, okay.
- [113:18]
Jillian Melchior
We got a lot to cover on this one, so I got to be a bit more rapid fire here. So where did we leave you on this whole redistricting chaos?
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Dave Rubin
I think the. Literally the last day I was leaving, there was just like a bunch of stories breaking up on. Was it Texas and California?
- [113:34]
Jillian Melchior
So the Democrats left, and Beto o' Rourke tried to fund their ability to leave. And now Ken Paxton is investigating that as though it's like bribery. And they're trying to shut down the organization that they've used to fund these Democrats ability. Long story short, they get the five seats. Okay, okay. So that's where that's at.
- [113:56]
Dave Rubin
Wait, the Republicans got the five seats in Texas? Okay, okay.
- [113:59]
Jillian Melchior
They got the five seats in response to that. Oh, hold on. This is important. A Texas state Rep, Jolanda Jones, who fled the State to Illinois. So she fled Texas to Illinois to try to avoid their ability to, like, convene everybody and get the seats. She compared it to the Holocaust. Of course she compared the redistricting to the Holocaust. So, I mean, just because.
- [114:23]
Dave Rubin
Just the concentration camps were just a mild redistrict.
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Jillian Melchior
Yeah. Okay, then J.D. vance says if we did the census anew, right now, we'd have 10 additional Republican seats and nine fewer Democratic seats. There's a video, but that's basically the gist of it. Okay, okay. Now here's where it gets crazy. Our favorite person, Gavin Newsom, steps up to the plate, and long story short, he put. Puts forward this thing called Prop 50 because California has this whole independent commission against gerrymandering particularly. Right. So he says, I want to put Forward this Proposition 50 to take them out of the equation, and I'm going to respond to what Texas is doing, and I want 7% representation for Republicans. Now we have 7, I think percent, and I think 38% of Californians are Republicans.
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Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
So this is gone bananas. California already has 43 Democratic seats, only nine Republican seats. He's on fire with this. And he's like daring Trump to come after him. It doesn't look like the Republicans are going to be able to block this Proposition 50 vote in November. So now they're in a war over who's gerrymandering worse. I kind of hate this across the board.
- [115:48]
Dave Rubin
Yeah. My general take would be both sides are gonna do it. Yep. Obviously, I can't speak to the specifics of things that happened when I was gone, but, like, both sides are gonna do it. And would I put. And he has a super majority, and it just is what it is. And let's not belabor the point of California.
- [116:01]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah. So that's.
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Dave Rubin
Neither one of us lived there anymore.
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Jillian Melchior
Well, they're all now gonna do it, so you kind of nailed it. Missouri's gonna redraw their map, and it just goes on and on and on and on and on. Okay, now then, 2028 buzz. Trump tells Peter Dossy that the heir to Maga may be J.D. vance. Maybe Marco Rubio. Maybe they'll come together. Take a look.
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Dave Rubin
You said this morning that you probably won't be running for a third term this weekend. Secretary of State Rubio said that he thought J.D. vance would be a great nominee. You could clear the entire Republican field right now. Do you agree that the heir apparent to Maga is J.D. vance? Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the vice president. I think Marco is also somebody that maybe would get together with JD in some form. It's a great answer. It's honest. It's true. And if it was Rubio and J.D. or J.D. and Rubio or. No, it would be J.D. and Ruby, because I don't think they would switch it the other way, but it would be great. How much? No, no, no. Of course. I'd love to see that.
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Jillian Melchior
There's a lot of good choices.
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Dave Rubin
No, but maybe Tulsi goes to Secretary of State at that point. Like, you just never know. It's a little early to talk about any of that. I kind of. We could punt that one. But, like, yes, they have a great bench and good people who are competent and could lead the country again. That would be perfectly lovely.
- [117:20]
Jillian Melchior
So here's something strange. Gavin Newsom has become Donald Trump. Actually, you cannot make this up. He's tweeting like him. He's making merch like him. He's got a couple of kids that he hired, and they just copy verbatim literally every single thing that Trump does. It's super duper bizarre. And for example, Gavin Newsom copies his MAGA hat and says, new merch coming soon. You're welcome. Thank you, Patriots. Like all caps, he's been trolling people. Newsom was right about everything.
- [117:56]
Dave Rubin
What? He was. He's never been right about anything. Yeah, I get it. I get it.
- [118:01]
Jillian Melchior
He's trying to become Donald Trump.
- [118:05]
Dave Rubin
But you can't fake becoming Trump. That's the thing. You can't fake it. Keep going, man. Keep going.
- [118:10]
Jillian Melchior
Is that there's nothing authentic about it. Like, it's all performative theater. Meanwhile, not one home on PCH has been rebuilt. Carolla posts these updates, and it's like, not one home, not one construction crew. And this guy is. So anyway, him and Trump have been doing their usual kind of pissing match and shenanigans, and Newsom held a reckoning day. What is it, Independence Day? About the gerrymandering news conference. And then Trump had an ice raid there and kind of same old, same old.
- [118:46]
Dave Rubin
All right, enough. We need to know.
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Jillian Melchior
Okay, all right, now, this is great.
- [118:51]
Dave Rubin
Okay.
- [118:52]
Jillian Melchior
DeSantis announced Hulk Hogan Appreciation Day.
- [118:55]
Dave Rubin
Love it, Love it. When is it? When is it?
- [118:57]
Jillian Melchior
Okay, take a look.
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Dave Rubin
Today in the state of Florida, I've declared to be Hulk Hogan Appreciation Day. And in recognition of somebody who was obviously a major figure for many, many decades, particularly for kids, people in my generation was a big, big guy and was right there in the Tampa Bay area for many, many decades. So I'LL tell you is make sure on this day that you're training, saying your prayers and eating your vitamins, brother. Because he would have wanted you to do that. I love that. I know it's a bit of a throwaway, but I love it. One of the, you know, probably like you, I've met like so many people that I would have ever wanted to meet or like heroes. I met Hogan once, got to spend like an hour with him. Just me, him and Jimmy Hart, who was his manager, like wrestling manager. And we got like an hour together and he gave me a big headlock. I have a picture of it. And he was just a great human being. And to see the way I was at MSG at the rally, the Trump rally that he came out and that was to me the most. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, he passed right before I went off the grid. That's a sad one.
- [120:02]
Jillian Melchior
Even better news, Desantis is looking to end property tax.
- [120:06]
Dave Rubin
So is it going to happen? I mean, they've been fighting for it. We have. It's ridiculous.
- [120:09]
Jillian Melchior
Do it. And there's a video. Why you want to. Do you want to. Should we talk?
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Dave Rubin
We. We can probably. We can probably let it go.
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Jillian Melchior
The story short is he's basically worried about people who've retired that can no longer afford it. Then he goes on to say, like, they just continue to pay this every single year. And it's like, it's crippling.
- [120:25]
Dave Rubin
No, you, you end up punishing people that live here. Meanwhile, we have number. We have the number one record tourism for the last five years or something every year in Florida. So if you need the revenue, which it's not even clear that we need the revenue because we're such a well run state, but if you need the revenue, you could, you could charge a little more in taxes for all the tourism stuff, offsetting the property tax. Because if you allow people to. You buy your home, you don't have to pay taxes on that, the value of that land forever. Then they can reinvest more in their home. I hope he can get it through. It's been a big fight.
- [120:55]
Jillian Melchior
Amazing. Because. Anyway, I'm impressed. I mean, he's actually focused on running his state. Isn't that crazy? I know. No merch. Just trying to run the state.
- [121:05]
Dave Rubin
That's where I live.
- [121:07]
Jillian Melchior
So this one's. I got to show you this because this is so friggin bananas. So Mark Carney went to a Vancouver pride parade. I said, yep, yep. Okay.
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Dave Rubin
Yep.
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Jillian Melchior
Anything to say? I. Yeah.
- [121:31]
Dave Rubin
Where was Trudeau where was Trudeau?
- [121:32]
Jillian Melchior
I don't know. Really?
- [121:34]
Dave Rubin
Was that Trudeau? Maybe I need to see the picture. Did he shave his head? I've been out of the game for a while. Like, it's all just so ridiculous, dude. Like, for the naked guy, it's like, dude, go live your life. But you're not helping. You're not. You want. You want gay people to be treated okay and fairly and all those things. You people are actually doing the reverse of all that and the pandering ridiculous. Like, who in Carney's circle was, like, hug that guy? Put that up again for a sec.
- [121:58]
Jillian Melchior
I know now our YouTube channel's gonna.
- [122:01]
Dave Rubin
Get deleted the day I come back. Nobody wants to see that. Did that guy actually think, boy, people want to see that?
- [122:07]
Jillian Melchior
Do you remember the picture of Biden on the white lawn with the transgender individual with the boobs sticking out and everything? I don't. This, to me, obviously bothers me for the same reason it bothers you. And it's like, you wouldn't want this from anybody. No adult should be naked on the street in front of kids. I don't care what your orientation is. It's inappropriate, and it's counterintuitive. And here's a perfect example of how, in my opinion. So Nancy Mace launched a bid for governor of South Carolina, and Marsha Blackburn announced she's gonna run for. For governor in Tennessee. And, yeah, there's no video on this. It's just like, what I don't love is, you know, Marsha Blackburn's not for gay marriage. And is she not.
- [122:49]
Dave Rubin
I've never. I've interviewed her a couple times.
- [122:51]
Jillian Melchior
I don't think so.
- [122:52]
Dave Rubin
I would bring it up with her next time.
- [122:53]
Jillian Melchior
I think she's not. And pretty aggressively not.
- [122:57]
Dave Rubin
Look, I'm. Anyone can have whatever their own religious and personal philosophical belief is. I don't think that should supersede someone. Another citizen's right to engage in a relationship that they wish to engage in. And I think the ship has really sailed on that. So I wouldn't.
- [123:13]
Jillian Melchior
I hope so.
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Dave Rubin
I wouldn't really. Well, certainly at a governor level, the governor has no ability to do anything about that.
- [123:18]
Jillian Melchior
But here's the concern. I mean, I'll try to be quick. Is like, I think you saw there was some worry they were gonna try to bring up gay marriage in the Supreme Court. It turned out to be a nothing burger. Like, long story short, the Supreme Court. Supreme Court didn't agree to hear this case. Yet that had to do with this woman's freedom of speech, I think, in religion, not necessarily relitigating gay marriage, but the concern is that it could come up and then, like, what if it gets kicked back to the states? And if it does, you know what kind of influence.
- [123:47]
Dave Rubin
At the end of the day, we have equal protection under the law that's guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States. Marriage in and of itself is not in the Constitution. So if you're going to say that straight people can get married, then gay people can get married. Marriage, but.
- [123:58]
Jillian Melchior
All right, we'll keep it rolling. All right, here we go. August 11th. It was revealed that a former Democrat Intelligence Committee staffer turned whistleblower told the FBI in 2017 that Adam Schiff personally approved leaking classified information on Russia to smear President Trump. I probably should have had this earlier.
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Dave Rubin
But there you go. Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
All right. Oh, we jumping forward. Okay. We got the beta or work stuff. Blah, blah, blah, with the Texas Aha. Oh, this is important. You should know this. President Trump took a victory lap over the corrupt New York Attorney General, Letitia James, the whole foreigner, because it was excessive and punitive. Yeah, so that's out.
- [124:40]
Dave Rubin
Good.
- [124:41]
Jillian Melchior
You want to see Joy Reid talking about how white people are scumbags, or you want to skip it?
- [124:45]
Dave Rubin
Yeah, I want new things. Oh, that's just. That's old. Joy Reid called somebody racist.
- [124:53]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah, all of us. We're all racist. All of our ancestors.
- [124:56]
Dave Rubin
I like this. Let's see if you can just keep shuffling them out now. Unless something really moves.
- [125:00]
Jillian Melchior
You okay? Omar Fateh.
- [125:03]
Dave Rubin
Oh, yeah. This guy.
- [125:03]
Jillian Melchior
So this guy.
- [125:05]
Dave Rubin
Somali pirate.
- [125:06]
Jillian Melchior
Who wants to be the Somali pirate? No more. So the Dems actually pulled out of their support for this guy because they think that the race was rigged, citing missing balance and insecure election machines. So here's Minneapolis Mayor Frey. Take a look.
- [125:23]
Dave Rubin
So they're bringing Frey back. Not a scenario where you need to take my word for it. As the state party said and as the investigation showed, this was a process that was rife with errors and misconduct. Hundreds of people didn't get counted out of hundreds of votes in total. There was an entire ward where nobody knew who the war delegates were. The whole thing went missing. I don't know. We still don't know exactly how they became to the determination based on that Ward. The data itself was given to the other campaigns, and they were allowed to edit it. I mean, okay, fine, the Somali pirates. God, but they have this guy still who's just like a pathetic progressive pandering putt. So.
- [126:12]
Jillian Melchior
Okay, he gets worse in a minute. But real quick, because I can't remember if it's somewhere on the ground here. Mondani continues to grow in New York, and it's happening. Warren basically came out. Senator Warren was like, this is the future of the party.
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Dave Rubin
So of course you guys have. There's no bulwark against it. And I'm telling you, the thing that I'm afraid of with him, of course the thing that I'm afraid, afraid of is he's going to win and they're going to fake it for a year. Socialism can be faked for a year, meaning because the Democrats turn on the violence when they want. They shut it off. So they'll stop at the craziness. The government run grocery stores, they'll work for about a year until the workers start realizing they have no skin in the game. And then the system fails. But the question is, does it scale at that year? Meaning people are looking at it like in that year and then being like, okay, bring it to Minneapolis, bring it to San Francisco, Los Angeles and everything.
- [127:00]
Jillian Melchior
I mean, we've done this before. We did it in the 70s and it was an abject failure. So. Yeah. And I'm sure you caught the video of him saying, like, he wants to seize production, he doesn't believe in prisons, and there's no need for personal property. You didn't miss any of those.
- [127:14]
Dave Rubin
Didn't miss any of that. I'm still curious, though. He's a big. He keeps. He's marching out there with the queers and the LGBTQs and everything. And for some reason I'm guessing that his mind mosque does not do gay marriages. And I just wish someone would ask him a question about why he would attend such a bigoted religious institution. But nobody wants to bring that up. If only there was a journalist in America.
- [127:35]
Jillian Melchior
I don't disagree with you. There is a video of him needing a spot to do two reps of a bench press. I guess trying to imply that he's a soy boy, but the long story sure is.
- [127:45]
Dave Rubin
Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Yeah, let me get one more.
- [127:50]
Jillian Melchior
Let me get one, Let me get three. Let me get three, let me get three. All I'm gonna tell you is you.
- [127:57]
Dave Rubin
Really could barf in your government run shoes, couldn't you? Yeah. He's gonna win.
- [128:01]
Jillian Melchior
He's gonna win, I think. Dude.
- [128:02]
Dave Rubin
Goodbye, New York.
- [128:05]
Jillian Melchior
Sad news there. So, John Bolton. Okay, now you don't know anything about this one, right?
- [128:11]
Dave Rubin
Did he shave his mustache?
- [128:12]
Jillian Melchior
No. Okay, so this one's been pretty controversial. Federal agent raided his home in Maryland. And of course, for anybody who's not aware he's Trump's former National Security adviser. Take a look.
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Dave Rubin
We're back with the Fox News alert. We're just learning the FBI agents have raided the Maryland home of former Trump National Security Adviser John Bolton. It happened at 7am this morning, shortly.
- [128:41]
Jillian Melchior
After the raid began. FBI Director Director Cash Patel posting on X quote, no one is above the law. FBI agents on a mission is intriguing.
- [128:50]
Dave Rubin
Here because these are long standing allegations that the book indicated or referenced classified material that he may have acquired when he was in the administration. We're not clear as to what that is, but it would suggest that it could be national defense information.
- [129:07]
Jillian Melchior
Okay, so here's basically what happened.
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Dave Rubin
He wrote a book and the room where it happened.
- [129:11]
Jillian Melchior
Right. And it had to do with the 17 months he spent in the job for Trump. Long story short, the accusation is that he has classified documents that he sent on a private server to his wife and his daughter. Initially, I guess the Trump administration in 2020 had tried to block this. The Biden administration continued the investigation and then I guess put it to. Nobody really knows why they put it to bed. Kash Patel has just revived it. Trump says he knows nothing about it. The scandals are as follows. Are we weaponizing? You know, it's all the usual stuff. Are we weaponizing it? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- [129:52]
Dave Rubin
I mean, I kind of remember when the book came out and people were saying, was he allowed to write some of this stuff? But it all goes through. I'm sure it was published by Penguin or somebody huge or Simon Schutzer. Like, it all goes through layers of security.
- [130:02]
Jillian Melchior
He said he had permission from this woman and from the ARC who was in charge of classification. It's a bit muddy, to be honest. We really don't know what's going on. But that's the big question is this is unprecedented. But Mike, wait, how is it unprecedented? Didn't we just do this in Mar a Lago?
- [130:19]
Dave Rubin
Right. It feels like the same thing.
- [130:19]
Jillian Melchior
What's unprecedented?
- [130:20]
Dave Rubin
Also, I know plenty of people who were in former government positions who've written books, and I've talked to several of them about it. Like, you have to go through a process to figure out what's allowed.
- [130:30]
Jillian Melchior
All right, so the concern is obviously like, Trump's vindictive. He's going after old enemies, he's weaponizing the FBI and the doj. The usual. The usual game. Right? It is weird. You know, I don't know yet. I guess we're going to find out if something happened, but that's the concern.
- [130:47]
Dave Rubin
Well, as we sort of had a theme here. I mean, no one pays the price for anything, so Bolton will be fine.
- [130:51]
Jillian Melchior
Exactly Right. So that's kind of. That's kind of it there. FBI raided the home of. Blah, blah, blah, John Bolton. Yeah, you got it.
- [130:59]
Dave Rubin
Okay.
- [130:59]
Jillian Melchior
He's 76, in case he wanted to know that. Oh, here it is. Bolton claimed that Knight gave him verbal approval to publish the book even while a supplemental review was going on. So I guess this is the woman who's in charge of these classifications.
- [131:13]
Dave Rubin
Nothing's gonna come of this. Nothing's gonna come of this?
- [131:15]
Jillian Melchior
No.
- [131:15]
Dave Rubin
Nothing.
- [131:15]
Jillian Melchior
Okay.
- [131:16]
Dave Rubin
Okay.
- [131:16]
Jillian Melchior
This sucks. This is sad. And it's making really big news. So an individual who I guess is allegedly transgender, named Robin Westman shot and killed two kids and injured 17 others at a Catholic school during a mass in Minneapolis. Okay. Now, new evidence is emerging that this suspected shooter appeared to be psychotic. Manic 22 year old young man, possibly trans, who left an 11 minute manifesto video on YouTube just hours before the shooting. The suspect wrote notes on the weapons he used, including, KITCHILL TRUMP Now, McVeigh, where is your God? Burn Israel. Six million was not enough. He had a human shaped target with Jesus's face attached to it. Now, this, of course, has begotten crazy culture wars over the transgender people. Right? So that whole thing has begun. And then simultaneously, you've got Frey, who take a look at this and then make your own opinion. Okay, we'll discuss it. I don't even want to set it up yet. Can you guys toss up that video of Frey for me, Please don't just.
- [132:35]
Dave Rubin
Say this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally putting. It was the first week of school, they were in a church. These are kids that should be learning with their friends. They should be playing on the playground. They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence. And their parents should have the same kind of assurance.
- [133:03]
Jillian Melchior
So it wasn't just him.
- [133:04]
Dave Rubin
Him.
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Jillian Melchior
Newsom put out a tweet saying, quote, these children were literally praying as they got shot at. Now, as I'm sure you can imagine, the Michael Knowles, the Charlie Kirks. Yeah, this is an attack on prayer. This is attack on Christians. This is evil. I certainly don't understand why those comments were made.
- [133:26]
Dave Rubin
Well, it was an attack on a Catholic school. Is that correct? Yeah. So, okay, so they. There's some element of that, but if You. But that's secondary to what likely was massive psychological distress or whatever you want to call it, that this boy, I guess thought he was a girl. How about we talk about psychological health and drugs and all of the others.
- [133:49]
Jillian Melchior
Or getting security guards at the schools because, you know, of course it's going to be like, oh my God, the gun laws. How about you put armed guards at the schools, right?
- [133:57]
Dave Rubin
Which, you know, look, that's a slippery slope too because then we just are. Well, it's a slippery slope in that we then are like sort of training our children to just be around. I'm more for that. No, I know. No, I know, I know, I know. No, no, no. But without fully, like litigating that, like there is something about children having to then be around armed 5 year olds walking into schools and seeing, you know, in effect, soldiers at the doors. There's some conversation around that. But this, it's all of these things always boil down to mental health and everything else. The video that probably got me the craziest in like the last five years. Do you remember that Texas Uvalde shooting where they, I mean, it's hard to remember any of these at this point, but somebody went in and shot like 17 year old, 17 kindergartners, basically all elementary school kids. And then Joy Reid went on TV that night and said, this is not a mental health issue, it's a gun issue. And it's like, it's so crazy that's a mental health issue to see that. Because if you go in and kill innocent children, you obviously have a mental health issue. You don't need a doctor to diagnose you with that. So all of these things are much more about mental health and likely prescription drugs. And the other problem is that with the manifesto stuff and putting all that stuff out, it incentivizes people to put out crazy things. It doesn't mean that he believed any of that stuff. It just, you know, they put out, they. There's a game, there's like a butterfly effect and a game that's being played. I'm going to put up a YouTube video, I'm going to write these crazy things. All of that fits into the psychological screwiness of everything. So but I can see this, this probably has all of this, all of the cultural markings.
- [135:30]
Jillian Melchior
Oh yeah. And it's like a broad attack on the trans community, which is counterproductive. Instead of it like, okay, this guy's mentally insane, right? And then it's like, oh God, they're attacking. Christianity is under assault, which I Mean, honestly, it kind of is, but I don't think that's what was happening here. But who knows? Why say it? Why not address policy? Why would you go after. These kids were literally playing. What are you trying to say? That prayer is in effect, like, I don't. It was. People were really right about it.
- [135:57]
Dave Rubin
Dumb things, right? People who don't believe in prayer suddenly like making it about prayer is kind of gross.
- [136:02]
Jillian Melchior
That's the. Right. That did not come go over well. Which is so bizarre. Here's a health.
- [136:08]
Dave Rubin
It's mental health.
- [136:09]
Jillian Melchior
Hard right turn for you.
- [136:11]
Dave Rubin
Okay, okay. You're running out of paper.
- [136:14]
Jillian Melchior
If you had to guess what object has been repeatedly thrown on a WNBA court.
- [136:23]
Dave Rubin
Oh, dildo. It's got to be.
- [136:24]
Jillian Melchior
How do you know that?
- [136:25]
Dave Rubin
Well, cuz that a few days before I left. The green dildo in the green dildos. More dildos.
- [136:32]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah, lots more dildos. I mean, we. I have three videos. Do we do three videos?
- [136:36]
Dave Rubin
I want to see those. Let's see the dildo.
- [136:43]
Jillian Melchior
Got a whistle away from the basketball.
- [136:45]
Dave Rubin
It's a green dildo again. So there's something interesting about the green dildo. Is this going to be a green dildo?
- [136:51]
Jillian Melchior
I think there's a purple one. Oh, that's definitely a purple one.
- [136:55]
Dave Rubin
She just kicked the crap out of that dildo.
- [137:05]
Jillian Melchior
Purple.
- [137:07]
Dave Rubin
Purple. Wow.
- [137:13]
Jillian Melchior
Well, I've never seen those in neon colors. I guess. I. I don't. Yeah, I. I usually thought it was like skin tones, but I.
- [137:22]
Dave Rubin
Well, okay.
- [137:24]
Jillian Melchior
Now the color of the rainbow though. I would like to show you this one.
- [137:28]
Dave Rubin
Okay.
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Jillian Melchior
CN anchor, CNN anchor led off of a segment about a crackdown on dildos. I. Can we show that one? The WNBA is cracking down on dildos being thrown onto the court during games. The sex toys have shown up six different times from Atlanta to L. A posing a risk to. To players. It's ridiculous, it's dumb, it's corny, it's stupid. It's also dangerous. And you know, player safety is number one. Respecting the game, all those things.
- [138:01]
Dave Rubin
I think it's really stupid.
- [138:03]
Jillian Melchior
So what is this? Who's responsible for starting this trend? Apparently a crypto meme group which calls them pranks. But those pranks have so far resulted in two arrests. And it raises the debate, is it a sexist stunt? Is it some sort of rite of passage that every league experiences something like this? What is going on? What is every.
- [138:24]
Dave Rubin
I watch a lot of NBA games in my day. I don't remember a dildo being thrown. I don't know what she Said, is it a rite of passage? What? What?
- [138:32]
Jillian Melchior
All right, but dildo aside, the NYPD is on a manhunt for a WNBA dildo throwing. Suspect in a Beavis and Butthead shirt. Can't make this up. I thought you'd enjoy that.
- [138:45]
Dave Rubin
Come on, now. But I love how the players have to. Someone's gonna get hurt, you know, like the dildo is gonna take them out.
- [138:53]
Jillian Melchior
Oh, my God. Okay, other than me, somebody else has been branded a racist.
- [138:58]
Dave Rubin
Oh, who? Do I know them?
- [139:00]
Jillian Melchior
You certainly do. It's rarefied air.
- [139:03]
Dave Rubin
Yes.
- [139:03]
Jillian Melchior
One guess. It's a girl.
- [139:05]
Dave Rubin
It's a girl that I know. That was called. How?
- [139:06]
Jillian Melchior
Well, you would know of her for sure.
- [139:07]
Dave Rubin
Yeah, I know of her, but I don't. You definitely, definitely give me more than. She's a girl.
- [139:11]
Jillian Melchior
Really pretty girl.
- [139:12]
Dave Rubin
A very pretty girl that I. How about Riley Gaines?
- [139:16]
Jillian Melchior
Sydney.
- [139:17]
Dave Rubin
Oh, Sydney. Well, she was. Yeah, well, they were saying she was a racist before. She's a racist because she has boobs or something?
- [139:21]
Jillian Melchior
Well, no, no, it was her jeans ad. Her American Eagles jeans ad. Oh, you saw this ad?
- [139:26]
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
- [139:26]
Jillian Melchior
What? Okay, you know, this whole thing.
- [139:29]
Dave Rubin
Maybe they double. Yeah, well, they did the ad.
- [139:31]
Jillian Melchior
She wore the jeans. I've got good jeans.
- [139:32]
Dave Rubin
I've got good reason.
- [139:33]
Jillian Melchior
He knows this one.
- [139:34]
Dave Rubin
That was July. That was July. Someone's getting fired.
- [139:37]
Jillian Melchior
Okay, all right. Yeah.
- [139:39]
Dave Rubin
So you didn't see the apology?
- [139:42]
Jillian Melchior
Oh, there's an apology. Who apologized? Oh, yeah.
- [139:45]
Dave Rubin
Oh, and they did. Oh, good. They shouldn't have apologized.
- [139:47]
Jillian Melchior
Oh, I was like, somebody apologized?
- [139:49]
Dave Rubin
Yeah. All right.
- [139:49]
Jillian Melchior
Nobody apologized. Okay. Trump applauded American Eagle and Sydney Sweeney, who's a registered Republican, and then he bashed Bud Light and Jaguar. Okay, here's his post right here. Yeah, she's got the hottest ad out there. Woke out disaster. Look at woke singer Taylor Swift. I don't really know.
- [140:11]
Dave Rubin
That's interesting that he went after Bud Light still, because, you know, they've really put a lot of money into UFC and other stuff to try to make up for what they've done. So that's interesting, but. Okay. All right.
- [140:21]
Jillian Melchior
Okay. Well, then, in response to all of this, just quick sidebar. Taylor Swift is engaged to Travis Kelce. Yeah, that happened.
- [140:31]
Dave Rubin
Oh, is that new? I mean, I've been dating forever. I don't know.
- [140:35]
Jillian Melchior
And if you wonder, they're engaged. Okay, this is the thing. Are you ready? Cracker Barrel rebranded the logo, then lost like a hundred gazillion trillion bazillion dollars.
- [140:51]
Dave Rubin
I'm trying. The logo was like a. It was like a bat. Oh, it was a barrel, right? Like, it used to be just a barrel.
- [140:56]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah, it was with a white guy named Uncle Herschel. I couldn't quite figure this out. I wasn't sure if Uncle Herschel was, like, a slave owner and that's why they did this. In fact, there is no reference to slavery here whatsoever. And the Cracker Barrel is because people would eat soda crackers around a porch that were packed in a barrel. And Uncle Herschel is just, I guess, a fictional character, but because it's nostalgic of the south with the guy on a porch. So they rebranded the whole thing. And then everybody was pissed and it tanked. And. Yeah. So go woke, go broke Crackle Barrel CEO Julie Fels Messina's decision to decolonize the company.
- [141:47]
Dave Rubin
Okay, okay, don't read the rest of that. The one thing I can say is around 9, 1996, I was driving up to. I went to SUNY Binghamton, and I stopped somewhere near Poughkeepsie, if I'm not mistaken, at a Cracker Barrel, and I had the most delicious, fully loaded baked potato I'd ever had in my life. They put salt and pepper on the outside of the potato, which I now do, and it's delicious.
- [142:07]
Jillian Melchior
So, yeah, that was. That was a mess. That was like a Bud, like, kind of a mess. But, like, you get these, like, white women that just keep tanking these companies.
- [142:18]
Dave Rubin
Right? They'd never step foot into Cracker Barrel, but they get off to store.
- [142:21]
Jillian Melchior
They get these, like, you know, Ivy League, educated white liberals, and they just tank these companies one after another like a Victoria's Secret.
- [142:30]
Dave Rubin
They need a dildo. That's the truth.
- [142:32]
Jillian Melchior
I agree with you.
- [142:33]
Dave Rubin
Like, get a dildo, lady.
- [142:35]
Jillian Melchior
Stop trying to stake out Cracker Barrel. Okay, some interesting. I wonder what you'll think about this one. After many years, Howard Stern is canceled. His contract is not gonna be renewed.
- [142:48]
Dave Rubin
Wow. Wow. That actually strikes me as the biggest news of the entire month in some weird way. Wow.
- [142:59]
Jillian Melchior
Isn't that weird? I'm not surprised.
- [143:02]
Dave Rubin
Are you really? Well, I mean, his.
- [143:05]
Jillian Melchior
You know, because he hates Trump. Ideological, anti Trump stuff.
- [143:09]
Dave Rubin
Watching his descent into, like, woke madness and Covid stuff has been really disappointing. You know, I'm from New York. Like, I used to listen to him on 92. 3, and I so remember him going to Satellite and it was all about freedom. And I read Private Parts and the Movie's Spectacular and Fighting the System and WNBC and the entire thing. Like, his story is so great. And he was fighting the power the entire time. And then he became like, such an avatar for the power. And I had a show on Sirius xm, and I always wanted to meet him so desperately. And I used to have dreams all the time that I was on his show. That was like, the one thing when my first book came out that I requested from my press people, was to get on Howard Stern. It didn't happen. That was the only thing that I asked for. But then watching his, you know, all that stuff has been disappointing. I guess at some point, you just can't pay him anymore. Right. The guy's been making satellite radio. It doesn't really make sense. I don't know if you've heard of the Internet.
- [144:01]
Jillian Melchior
I think that's part of it. I think it's also a lot of the. Supposedly the Trump derangement stuff has turned off a lot of his audience.
- [144:07]
Dave Rubin
Yeah, I mean, his audience was edgy. Oh, I loved him.
- [144:10]
Jillian Melchior
I never liked him. And you know what I remember about him?
- [144:13]
Dave Rubin
You didn't like the crassness. I liked the fighting, the power thing. I loved fighting the executives and making fun of them all the time.
- [144:20]
Jillian Melchior
You know what used to bother me?
- [144:21]
Dave Rubin
It was like Letterman sort of.
- [144:23]
Jillian Melchior
Here's the irony, by the way. Some of the crazier stuff that. That Trump said about, like, you know, Teenage Miss America, like, walking into these rooms. I think he said that on Howard.
- [144:31]
Dave Rubin
Stern, and Howard didn't release the audio of it. Do you remember that?
- [144:34]
Jillian Melchior
Yep.
- [144:34]
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
- [144:34]
Jillian Melchior
Yes. And with that said, though, if you go back to super early Howard Stern, do you remember, like, a New Year's special where he would have women? I'm talking.
- [144:43]
Dave Rubin
Oh, he did insane things. I mean, he'd be in blackface auctioning people off.
- [144:48]
Jillian Melchior
I hated it. I remember. And it's like he'd take these girls who were super vulnerable and humiliate them for a boob job. I never liked them.
- [144:55]
Dave Rubin
Well, putting aside whether you like them or not, even putting, like, whether that doesn't even. In some sense, it's like, the bigger story is that this guy who's been an icon.
- [145:03]
Jillian Melchior
You're right. You're right. I'm just saying I didn't like him.
- [145:05]
Dave Rubin
I'm not.
- [145:06]
Jillian Melchior
Sorry.
- [145:06]
Dave Rubin
Yeah, no, no, no. Trust me. I haven't. I haven't listened to him in 20 years.
- [145:08]
Jillian Melchior
He turned into, like, some sort of a hero. But I never forgot that stuff. I was really young. I remember. And thinking, like, this is so gross.
- [145:16]
Dave Rubin
I remember he did some. Some blackface thing with Sherman Helmsley, George angel, this guy. Like, anyway, he'll be okay. He'll be okay. Okay.
- [145:24]
Jillian Melchior
Charlie Kirk has been featured on South Park.
- [145:27]
Dave Rubin
Oh, I think that. I think that happened. I think a clip leaked of that the day I left, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah.
- [145:33]
Jillian Melchior
Oh, my God. What makes you think you have the right to say what I do with my body?
- [145:38]
Dave Rubin
Let me ask you something.
- [145:39]
Jillian Melchior
If a pregnant woman is killed and.
- [145:40]
Dave Rubin
The baby dies too.
- [145:42]
Jillian Melchior
All right, this, this video, okay, Got Greg Gutfeld went on Jimmy Fallon.
- [145:47]
Dave Rubin
Oh, that. So I think this must happen right at the beginning of the month, right? Because I think I had heard it August 7th. Okay. So I think I heard it was gonna happen. Maybe something like that.
- [145:54]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah, I kind of watched it.
- [145:56]
Dave Rubin
How'd it go? We got anything or just.
- [145:58]
Jillian Melchior
It was awkward. I'll be honest, I thought it was awkward. Greg was super sweet and he tells this really long story about how he'd met Jimmy Fallon before. And Jimmy was super drunk and like crushed his cigarette, then bought him a new cigarette. And then they went to another ball. I don't know, it was awkward. And Fallon had no memory of any of it. And now Fallon's like, ah, yeah, huh, yeah. Uh huh. It was really bizarre, right?
- [146:22]
Dave Rubin
Because Fallon's not like a person. He's just an entertainer where Greg's being a human.
- [146:26]
Jillian Melchior
There was kind of a sweet moment in there where I guess Gutfeld says he goes to light a smoke and Fallon's like wasted and crumbles up his cigarette, which is something I would do and is like, these will kill you. And Gutfeld's like, I'm pulling and you just crushed my cigarette. And I guess Fallon bought him a pack of cigarettes, right? Gutfeld's like, you're trying to kill me. Here's what I did like about that.
- [146:46]
Dave Rubin
We're really at the end here. I know we're doing a month.
- [146:48]
Jillian Melchior
I mean, yeah, but what I loved about that is I think the right and the left need to talk more. So I loved that actually, because it doesn't engage well.
- [146:56]
Dave Rubin
It's sort of like you going on cnn. We need some arbitrage. Like, as crazy as it is, at some level, you need an arbitrage between old and new. And Gutfeld balances old and new really well. And then.
- [147:07]
Jillian Melchior
Well, but that was amicable. It was definitely like a, you know, in an attempt to build good communication and bridge ideologies. And CNN was not quite that. August 9th, Disney Lucasfilms is set to settle the Gina Carano lawsuit, and they signaled a desire to work with her again. She was fired from the the Mandalorian over posts comparing being a Republican in the US to being Jewish during the Holocaust. We've got to stop making these Holocaust comparisons. I think.
- [147:38]
Dave Rubin
Yeah. I mean, I thought you said something about Disney and something. I thought you were gonna say something about, like, they sold Star wars, which would be amazing, but. Okay, fine, move on. Who cares?
- [147:47]
Jillian Melchior
No, if I could just throw out, like, maybe just don't bring up the Holocaust, that would be a mistake. Okay. August 12th, the UFC signs a $7.7 billion deal with Paramount at UFC see events to Paramount plus streaming services in 2026, eliminating the pay per view model.
- [148:04]
Dave Rubin
Yeah, interesting. He. Dana's built that thing into just an absolute juggernaut. It's not really my thing, but I think it's incredible what he's done.
- [148:10]
Jillian Melchior
See, I love it, but, you know, I grew up in it. Okay, Moving swiftly onward. More of the same here. No dildos, but 32 NFL teams will be stenciling a social justice message in the. What?
- [148:26]
Dave Rubin
It's coming back. Are you kidding me?
- [148:28]
Jillian Melchior
No. That is stop hate and choose love, Dave.
- [148:32]
Dave Rubin
I mean, it's. I'm shocked.
- [148:34]
Jillian Melchior
Takes all of us.
- [148:34]
Dave Rubin
God. For anyone that thought woke was dead. I mean, it's just recalibrating in front of our eyes.
- [148:39]
Jillian Melchior
No one's listening.
- [148:40]
Dave Rubin
That's utterly shocking. That's the most shocking from dead.
- [148:44]
Jillian Melchior
It's like morphing into something new.
- [148:48]
Dave Rubin
Yes. If they etch it into the end zone, that will be. Yeah.
- [148:50]
Jillian Melchior
Okay, we've got couple of male cheerleaders, Louis Khan.
- [148:58]
Dave Rubin
Wait, that's a male?
- [149:00]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah, I mean, he's a good dancer.
- [149:10]
Dave Rubin
Yeah. All right.
- [149:11]
Jillian Melchior
Okay.
- [149:12]
Dave Rubin
I can't move like that. Who am I to do? I'm. Exactly my point.
- [149:15]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah.
- [149:16]
Dave Rubin
I'm working with the trainer on opening my hips. That's a big thing. We're working on hips right now. Just for the future of my, honestly, basketball abilities. Yeah, whatever.
- [149:24]
Jillian Melchior
Weird woke society, right? I don't think it was cute.
- [149:27]
Dave Rubin
No, exactly, Exactly. You're exactly right.
- [149:30]
Jillian Melchior
Okay, MSNBC is now rebranded as Ms. Now. And people don't love it because they think it means multiple cirrhosis. Now 31 second video of Joe Scarborough announcing this. Do you want to see it?
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Dave Rubin
We have breaking news as it pertains to our network this morning, a new name for the network. By the end of the year, we will become Ms. Now, which stands for my source for news, opinion, and the world. And look, Andrew, they even have a graphic up I like.
- [150:14]
Jillian Melchior
Yeah, this is their. Their departure from NBC and legacy media.
- [150:20]
Dave Rubin
Whatever.
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Jillian Melchior
Nothing. I love this.
- [150:22]
Dave Rubin
Good Luck.
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Jillian Melchior
This one I really liked.
- [150:24]
Dave Rubin
Actually, Chris, it's still television for morons. That's the thing. Yeah. Chris Pratt, okay, Chris Pratt went on.
- [150:30]
Jillian Melchior
Club Random, and I loved this.
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Dave Rubin
Take a look. Look, in politics, you. You inherit enemies, and when you jump on in. In on, you know, the. The bandwagon with who is, you know, the most divisive president ever, it makes sense that you're going to be made to look terrible. And so I don't know what to believe, because it's not like I sit with Bobby and I go, so, hey, let's talk about this. Let's talk about. It's like we're just playing cards or playing mafia or having fun or having dinner. I'm not going to pick his brain to find out exactly which of those things are true. I just kind of assume that none of them are. And for the most part, I wish him well. Man, I hope there's certain things that he oversees that seem to be supported in a bipartisan way, like getting terrible, toxic stuff out of our kids food. I think that's a great thing. And so just. If you just do that. That's amazing. I'd hate to be so mired in hatred for the president that any success from his administration is something I'd be. Have an allergic reaction to. To be like, oh, well, if they do it, I don't want it to happen. I'll feed my. I'll put Clorox in my children's cereal myself. You know, say, come on, have some. Be reasonable here. There's certain things that would be a good thing to have. I want them all to be successful. Yeah. I mean, that's all. That's all good. Not surprising. Glad Bill's nodding along. And Chris Pratt's a Trump guy anyway, so it's like he's a Republican. He's really. Oh, is that not. I thought maybe I'm making that up.
- [151:52]
Jillian Melchior
Never followed it. I've just. I looked at his physical transformation and always thought it was impressive.
- [151:56]
Dave Rubin
Oh, right, right. Because if you get. You start looking better. No, I know. You start looking better guy.
- [152:01]
Jillian Melchior
He was like the funny, chubby guy. Now he's like the handsome Jurassic park leading man, even though the film wasn't trying.
- [152:09]
Dave Rubin
Good for them. This is it. That's it. You didn't get a paper cut. You got nothing left?
- [152:12]
Jillian Melchior
No, but I. I have. Okay. Dave.
- [152:15]
Dave Rubin
Yes.
- [152:16]
Jillian Melchior
What are your plans for the year? What's the energy for the year? What are your predictions?
- [152:20]
Dave Rubin
Oh, my God.
- [152:21]
Jillian Melchior
For the year.
- [152:21]
Dave Rubin
Wow. We really did well, first off, I.
- [152:23]
Jillian Melchior
Will clean this up, everybody.
- [152:25]
Dave Rubin
Yeah, someone else will clean up the paper.
- [152:28]
Jillian Melchior
I'm going to clean this up myself.
- [152:30]
Dave Rubin
Well, I have to say, I guess I'm. I'm happy to hear that I was kind of right about my overall prediction, which is that not much happened. Some of the race stuff and I guess this just whatever. Yeah, but just like general crazy stuff, you know, I would say it's basically what I kicked off. First off, thank you for this. This was wonderful. I think you actually did the most kind of robust sort of blend of funny and also ridiculous and serious.
- [152:52]
Jillian Melchior
Oh, my God. We had to power through though. There was very little room for humor. I just, I want to be clear.
- [152:57]
Dave Rubin
No, you did.
- [152:58]
Jillian Melchior
I'm not a stand up comedian, Dave. I do lunges for a lot.
- [153:00]
Dave Rubin
You did a bang up job. And the abs, although they are not, they are hidden by the blouse, I'm sure are still tight.
- [153:07]
Jillian Melchior
Oh, yeah.
- [153:09]
Dave Rubin
I mean, we have a lot of stuff coming. I don't want to tease too much. Are you ask. Are they telling me to tease something?
- [153:15]
Jillian Melchior
I got the question.
- [153:16]
Dave Rubin
There's some major stuff happening with the tequila, which it'll be for sale again next week finally. And we've dealt with some of the logistical issues around that. So Copala. We're going to be really big on that for the next year. We have a couple ideas that we're going to change. We changed a few things with the set. We have new chairs here, which are quite comfortable, by the way, and a nice new table and a lot of paper on the floor. We're expanding a couple things. We're working on a network situation that I've been talking about for quite some time and some other. There's a lot of good things happening and I'm glad to. I didn't know how, you know, the last thing that happened in this room at the end of July was I taped one last thing and I was sitting here with Connor and Joseph and we finished and then we all just sat here quietly for like 30 seconds. And I said, I said, I don't know how I feel right now. And Joseph goes, it feels weird. And that kind of caught it for me because it wasn't like I was like relieved, like, I hate my job and now I'm so happy to escape. It wasn't that. It was like I was saying goodbye to my friends for a month and like I was going to enjoy myself, but I enjoy myself when I'm here. And so this morning when I was coming back, I was like, how do I feel. And I was like, it feels weird because it's not that I wasn't happy to come back, but I also really enjoyed being off. And anyway, I'm gonna take. Take all of that and all the lessons I learned for a month and all the stuff that you gave me right here. Try to be better at what I do and see if the country can.
- [154:37]
Jillian Melchior
Well, hi, my friend, and it has been an absolute pleasure doing this with you. That was dense. I apologize, but it's Phoenix's fault.
- [154:46]
Dave Rubin
You know, if we were a professional operation, someone would throw a dildo and we'd end this thing. But instead, I'm just gonna high five. Thank you, Jillian. Back tomorrow, everybody.
- [154:55]
Jillian Melchior
I want a pink one.
- [155:08]
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