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Dave Rubin
Guys, I'm in LA right now doing a bunch of media hits, so here's my appearance with my good buddy Adam Carolla on his show. And you can also see Adam Carolla joining me, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Ben Shapiro and Jillian Michaels in Miami on June 11th at the film or Dave Rubin.com events. And tune in to Gutfeld, exclamation point, the number one show on cable news tomorrow night. Yours truly will be on.
Adam Carolla
And thanks for tuning in. Thanks for tuning in. Tune in, Tell the friend. Tune in. Dave Rubin is good to see you, my friend.
Dave Rubin
Adam, it is good to see you. I'm very happy to be here in a secure studio with you amongst your security guards and armed people because I've spent the last 24 hours in your fair city and lordy, lordy, you know what I'm gonna say? Something is rotten in stink town here, and it's the urine and the poop and everything else. This place is going to high hell.
Adam Carolla
The thing that's funny is Karen Bass is running on. Stay the course, which is the weirdest argument ever. She should be running on. I had a brain aneurysm, but now I'm better. Or I found Jesus Christ two weeks ago. But anything but stay the course. Which is an insane angle to run on.
Dave Rubin
If you live in this city and you are thinking that everything is fine and you're gonna elect or reelect the lady who got. Well, it's not that you can't even blame her for this. Cause it was Garcia or Garcetti before her. And it was just. It's been going on for a long time.
Adam Carolla
Antonio Vino.
Dave Rubin
But I gotta tell you, like, in a weird way, I don't even mean this jokingly. You know my feelings about Florida and Cali and fleeing this place and everything else. It was worse. I mean, it's worse in the 24 hours that I've been here than I. I haven't been here in about a year. 24 hours in West Hollywood.
Adam Carolla
Well, it was.
Dave Rubin
It's bad.
Adam Carolla
Well, look. And Hollywood, obviously, I believe you. Because if you want to figure out if someone has gained weight, don't see them for a year. If you see them every day, you see them every day. They put on nine ounces a day and you don't notice it at all. Go away for a year, come back, you go, dude, you got fat.
Dave Rubin
In this case, they're losing weight and walking slowly with a hunch. So it's slightly different, but same theoretical course.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. So it's. Now, Andrew, we already broke down that commercial on this show though, right? So. But yeah, it was a funny stay the course commercial from. Well, you know what it is, is they have this. They have sort of two angles. They have the. I'm just getting started, but I got more work. Right.
Dave Rubin
They always have work to do these days.
Adam Carolla
And it's basically. It's basically, you know, Dave's doing a world class remod of his bathroom.
Dave Rubin
Wait till you see this now I'll show you some pictures.
Adam Carolla
I'm not leaving it once I get in there.
Dave Rubin
You were pretty impressed. You saw it mid. And we did some stuff.
Adam Carolla
But if you'd walked in in the middle. This is my I'm just getting started argument, which is sort of the Karen Bass. It's the Democrat argument in California and Los Angeles. But if you walked in in the middle of the tile setting and the guy was just doing a freakishly bad job setting the tiles and the margins were all up and everything was catty wampus and he wasn't using spacers and Then you went, hey, man, this doesn't look right. And he went, I'm just getting started. Like, you'd go, no, stop. Whatever it is you're doing, stop. Not. I'm just getting started. And that's their argument.
Dave Rubin
I don't understand. I mean, I genuinely don't understand. Is it just that there's enough rich people living in the hills here, just behind their gates at this point, that they've just conceded every other piece of the city and they think that the hills will never burn down? Is that what you think the calculation is?
Adam Carolla
It's kind of turning into Mexico City. Like, it's just super rich people with guards and gates and walls and they live in luxury up here and you guys live in squalor down there.
Dave Rubin
The only people who seem to be working are the people at In N Out. They're working and they're happy. Yes, we went there yesterday.
Adam Carolla
They're the only working, happy people there.
Dave Rubin
My guy Joey, who's with me, he'd never been to In N Out before. So we walk into In N Out. He's very excited for his first In N Out. I haven't had it in a year or two. I'm very exc. And I tell the guy behind the counter, big smile on his face, young Latino guy, he's happy. Welcome to In N Out. Animal style. The whole thing. And I said to him, hey, my buddy here has never had In N Out before. You think I could get the whole crew, you guys, to sing a song for him? And he's like, maybe. And he smiles and he starts walking away as if he was gonna ask the whole crew to sing whatever they're doing in there. I was like, no, it's not necessary. But I was like, whatever you guys are doing, that's right. That is what you people have left here. In and Out.
Adam Carolla
And speaking of that, the only in and out franchise to ever move since 1949 moved out of Oakland, California. So whatever they're doing there in Oakland, they're doing wrong. Oh, reminds me of the greatest clip that we've all forgotten about, which was awesome. And I don't think people fully understand the implications or what things mean, which is sort of like. What I'm saying is, women, if you are going on a date with a guy, and I've said this a million times, if a woman says a guy comes over to pick them up on their first date, and the woman says, oh, come in, come in. Just wait here. Just let me finish putting on my lipstick, I'll be With you in a second. And she goes off into the bathroom and her dog comes, like, sniffing around the guy to sort of say hi. And the guy, like, kicks him away. And the woman sees it in the mirror from the bathroom, what the guy did. It's over. Yeah, it's up. And then people go, maybe he's got a great sense of humor. Maybe he's a very generous guy. Maybe he's a loving guy. Maybe he's a beautiful lover. One thing, one thing. You kick the dog, one thing, and we're done.
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
And it's like when I. It's like if you drive around town and you see the guy that's got the dumpster for a car, like, just rappers, fast food, garbage on the dash, newspapers in the back, they go, okay, that person's nuts. And then someone will go, well, all you've seen is their car. I go, I don't need to see anything else than that. And I know. I know what the guy's apartment looks like. I know what he's like. I know what his hygiene is. I just need the one thing. And I don't think people do that enough with, like, the politicians, like the mayor of Oakland, Libby Schaff, or whatever her name was. This is going back some years, maybe five, six years. She was the mayor of Oakland. This is before the A's left and before the warriors left and before in and out left. We decided, by the way we sign our infinite wisdom, we could fix all this. We just had a bunch of women in charge, and then we just fix every city with compassion.
Dave Rubin
Well, because the future is female.
Adam Carolla
Future is female.
Dave Rubin
It does not matter if you're qualified.
Adam Carolla
Right. So there was a story. Now you have to think about how this woman's brain works. And then you would apply it to everything. But just like the guy with the trashed car, I would apply that to their life globally. This clip is from Wen Andrew and she's given a presser because. And you may remember this story, Dave 2023. Okay. A guy, a black man, who seemed a little crazy, but a black man, set up a workout sort of jungle gym at the park. He hung rope hoops from the tree so he could pull himself and do chin ups. And he made a system of hoops to hang.
Dave Rubin
I can tell this is gonna end well.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And he just used it in the park. He didn't seem like he had enough for an Equinox membership, but he got his kind of prison work out at the park in Oakland, which is fine. And then some white Chick spotted the rope and of course had to say something to somebody. And then there was a big kerfuffle. Sort of like every race hoax there is. Bubba Watson. This noose in the paddock to the racetrack or whatever. Wallace is it? Bubba Wallace Watson. Anyway, the point is Bubba. We'll do the Bubba math. So the point is they had to report it, then they had to make a big deal out of it. And then the black dude who hung the rope went, I did that. I use it to work out. That's it, end of story. But they're like, no, no, no, no, no, we're not done calling. Our. Remember, our theme is our society's horribly racist. So this is an opportunity.
Dave Rubin
Is the implication that he was trying to lynch himself or he set it up, he was setting up his own lynching one day.
Adam Carolla
Well, she gives, she gives the presser and she basically says, look, I'm gonna get the DOJ involved, we're gonna look at this as a hate crime. And then some woman in the audience goes, well, I think we already have context. Cuz that guy who came on before you, the black guy said he did it, so what are we doing here? And she's like, doesn't matter what the context is. And then I thought, oh my God, that is Chick think. That is insane. Chick think. But it's also, you can't govern with that kind of thinking. That's Nithya Raman blaming Toyota for catalytic con. Like, baby, your brain is broken and we can't have you making decisions, anything critical because you've shown your inability to think.
Dave Rubin
What have any of these people done that is good? That's the interesting thing. To me, if I was Spencer Pratt's doing a hell of a job. Obviously, I have no idea. I mean, do you think there's any chance he can win just numbers wise? It probably doesn't happen, right? Like it seems to me he's getting national coverage. That's great. And we all kind of love what's going on here. And those AI videos are amazing. I just don't know enough about the LA electorate anymore and if there's enough sane people here anymore. But if I was him, I would just turn to her. He's doing a great job. But if I had one little piece of advice, it would turn to her and say, what are you good at?
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Oh well, she just organizes communities. I'm a people person, I'm a caring person, I'm a mother. I get communities, marginalized communities, and I bring them together and I give Them a seat at the table so that we can all have justice and we can all have pride.
Dave Rubin
And that's nice to hear. You know, that's nice. But that would be the point. Like, is anyone's life better? Is anything safer? Is anything cleaner? Are the schools better? Are the streets safer? Like, you could go through the laundry list. Are businesses coming here? Which way are people going? And we all know they're going out, right? You know, last night, you know me, I like to. When I come to town, I like to have dinner with all my old friends and do things. And I always ask people where they are and what's going on. I was literally, last night, it's about 4 o'. Clock. I'm like, what am I doing for dinner tonight? None of my friends are here anymore.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, they've all cleared out.
Dave Rubin
Everyone's gone. Everyone's gone. You drew Larry Elder.
Adam Carolla
Larry Elder.
Dave Rubin
David Zucker.
Political Candidate
That's it.
Adam Carolla
David Zucker. All right, so here it is. Now, the audio's a little weird, but
Dave Rubin
first off, I like this guy already.
Adam Carolla
The black guy who put the rings up just gets done saying, I put the rings up. And now Libby, the mayor of Oakland, which is now destroyed, this is three years ago, has to give her rationale with that.
Libby Schaaf
If you have any questions.
Interviewer
Several of us I know have been out to the park and interviewed a gentleman, an African American gentleman, who says this was absolutely. He said intentions don't matter, but he said the intentions were strictly to create this rope system. He showed us another one that's still in the. He showed us video of him using it in that manner. I mean, don't the intentions matter if it was just strictly meant to be? He said they've been up there for months.
Libby Schaaf
Listen, the intentions will matter with regard to whether or not this is prosecuted as a hate crime. But intentions don't matter when it comes to.
Adam Carolla
Hold on a second. Hold on. Intentions don't matter. So if you made a loop on a piece of rope to pull a garage door down so that you could grip the rope better and pull the door down versus an old timey lynching, it's still the same thing, right, Adam,
Dave Rubin
you know, I'm a simple man. Maybe I'm missing part of this. Who are they accusing of a crime here? If he said he set it up, and what was the crime other than maybe he set up ropes without a permit?
Adam Carolla
He put the ropes up, but his intentions don't matter because those ropes still could have been taken as offensive and a hate crime to others. And that's why I'm here, to save those people who may have seen twine in a tree.
Dave Rubin
You have to understand, I live in a functional place now. So a lot of this, it's hard to get through to my brain because it's.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, right, right.
Dave Rubin
That's what's going on here. Right. I'm diving right back into the mire and the muck. So you're telling me that that lady was accusing the man who set up the rope so he could work out of a hate crime against himself?
Adam Carolla
Yes. So it's within honor of other. Let me see if I can tell you this. By the way. Here's how my brain works. I said, thing's about six years old, and then he wrote 2023. And I was like, huh, that's so new. June, 20, 26 years old. Okay, anyway, so let me explain. I'll give you context. Yes. In terms of the intentions don't matter. Let's just say your maid came in, okay. And your maid was changing the pillowcase, the white pillowcase on. On your pillow. And just as she did, you opened the sliding glass door and a wind blew in, and it landed on her head, giving her the appearance of a Klansperson.
Dave Rubin
This did happen once. Continue.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, that would still be an. That would be a racial attack, is what I'm saying, because intentions don't matter. Yes, she was just trying to change the pillowcase, but she donned the hood.
Dave Rubin
But in this case, that woman wanted him to go to jail for this.
Adam Carolla
I don't know.
Dave Rubin
Let's just try to work out.
Adam Carolla
Let's hear her out. Remember, she's a hero, and she's going to save black people.
Libby Schaaf
Okay, Listen, the intentions will matter with regard to whether or not this is prosecuted as a hate crime. But intentions don't matter when it comes to terrorizing the public. These symbols are symbols of racial violence, and it's incumbent on all of us to have that sensitivity, to have that knowledge. And that is why I've directed our staff to remove any such symbol of hatred, regardless of the intention of what put it there. What a privilege for those of us that don't feel complete fear and terror when we see a rope in the tree. That is a privilege that so many of us.
Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
You got a mendy play, weird chick. First off, all roads lead to narcissism. So much better. She's better because we don't understand the horror, you know, you see when you see a rope in a. In a tree. So I guess if you're like, your great great great grandmother was a witch and you walked past a well, I guess that would strike terror.
Dave Rubin
You know, having walked, having walked through Hollywood today where it's just a zombie apocalypse of drug addicts and homeless people. If I had seen a couple homeless people with some ropes climbing on trees or whatever, I would have thought it was refreshing, actually. You know what I mean? Like, they're all hunched over because of the meth or whatever. So it's like, oh, yeah, you're hanging on a rope. That's the best way to straighten out your back, by the way. So she's really against health here more than anything else.
Adam Carolla
Well, the point is, the poor black guy who hung up his workout rings, they sawed him down and threw him away, by the way, whatever that cost the taxpayers. So she's against this. I just gotta hear, did he go to jail?
Dave Rubin
What happened to this guy?
Adam Carolla
She's not going after the guy. She's going after racism in general, which is.
Dave Rubin
She's gonna add, oh, did she jail racism?
Adam Carolla
Let's see. I don't know.
Libby Schaaf
But intentions don't matter. They don't when it comes to terrorizing the public. These symbols are symbols of racial violence. And it's incumbent on all of us to have that sensitivity, to have that knowledge. And that is why I've directed our staff to remove any such symbol of hatred, regardless of the intention of what put it there. What a privilege for those of us that don't feel complete fear and terror when we see a rope retreat.
Adam Carolla
Is it dope?
Libby Schaaf
That is a privilege that so many of our African American residents do not enjoy. And this is a moment that we must be cognizant of that reality. We have got to stop terrorizing our black and brown citizens. And as white people, we have to become knowledgeable and educated about the impacts of our actions, whether they are well intentioned or not.
Adam Carolla
Hold on a second. I always wonder about the. Who are the people in the press. You know that. No one. First off, she should have been hit by a chair by now. And by the way, about by her own staff, like, we need to shut this bitch up. But also, can anyone raise your hand and go, what the are you talking about, ladies? Nobody knows what you're talking about. This is a workout rope, by the way. Gyms used to hang ropes and kids would climb up. Em, was that a hate climb in junior high? Was that a hate climb?
Dave Rubin
We used to have that in elementary school. Climb up and if you could get high enough, you could put a little post it note up there.
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
Dave Rubin
Yeah, you'd usually put a racial comment.
Adam Carolla
It was called a hate climb back then.
Dave Rubin
Oh, that's good.
Adam Carolla
That's good.
Dave Rubin
That was good. I mean, this is, you know, my friend. I'm sure you know him. Gad Saad. You know Gad, right? You know, his book came out yesterday, Suicidal Empathy, which I'm sure is gonna be the number one book of the year.
Adam Carolla
I hope so.
Dave Rubin
This is maybe the best example of
Adam Carolla
that that I've ever seen.
Dave Rubin
I'm gonna send this to Matthews.
Adam Carolla
And it's also an inability to think. And also it's an inability to hear yourself. Cause you don't know what you sound like. But wait, I want to hear a little more of her. And then tell me what she went on to. By the way, these people always go on to nothing. And at some point, Harvard gives them a job. Just got to be awesome.
Libby Schaaf
It is also against regulations to put anything in public trees. Regardless of your intention. Regardless of.
Adam Carolla
Hold on, by the way. Camp a Winnebago on the lawn of the public library and deal meth. They don't have any promise that. Hang some rope for a workout at a park.
Dave Rubin
However, that was the only sane thing she said there, right? You do need maybe a permit to put the rope in the tree. I'll go with her on that. But you're right. These are the same people that if you cook meth next to the school, will tell you, oh, you should be a little closer to the school.
Adam Carolla
Did she have any more?
Dave Rubin
All right, let's see.
Oakland Official
I didn't say that there was malicious intent behind it. I said the symbolism of the rope hanging in the tree is malicious, by the way. Hold on.
Adam Carolla
This is 2020. So we got a guy wearing a mask, except for it's to hide his double chin because his mouth and nose are fully exposed. So she's got no mask. Libby's got no mask. Then this doofus has a mask. But he pulls it down to talk. And now we're having a press conference about a rope in a tree that a black guy put there so he could do chin ups. And this is why your city is broke, by the way. Right? All right, let's see if there's any
Oakland Official
more here of the intent. Exactly what the mayor said. It's evil, and it symbolizes hatred. And that's not what Oakland is. And that's not what Oakland Parks is.
Adam Carolla
Mayor, you said it's evil.
Libby Schaaf
Yes. The Oakland Police Department has turned over the evidence to the FBI. We have to start with the assumption that these are hate crimes.
Adam Carolla
We cannot hold on.
Dave Rubin
Why?
Adam Carolla
Why do you have to start with the assumption? The guy hung the rope, just told he was there to do chin up. They've turned it over to the FBI, everybody.
Community Representative
That's one thing that we have to remember, that hate is hate.
Dave Rubin
Oh, my. Am I.
Adam Carolla
This is the black guy who hung the hoop.
Community Representative
So hate is the energy that can be held not only by white people, but by black people as well. So for me, it really doesn't matter if it's a white person or a black person. I'm assuming that it's a white person, but we don't know that for sure. But I feel that just our city and where we are now in our history, we have to make sure that we send definitive messages out to everybody.
Adam Carolla
He's got a mask around his chin, too.
Community Representative
This is not the type of future that we want to promote.
Adam Carolla
All right? You can look at it and see if there's any more insanity. If she speaks again, I got to hear her.
Dave Rubin
Adam, do you have Venmo?
Adam Carolla
You owe me.
Dave Rubin
I'm going to Venmo you $1,500 right now. I want you to get on a plane, first class. Come to Florida. It's enough of this.
Adam Carolla
This is her and Kamala, by the way. Oh, well, I will be in Florida with you and Desantis.
Dave Rubin
That's right.
Adam Carolla
Ben Shapiro and Jillian Michaels. And we'll be at the Fillmore, Miami beach, and that'll be June 11th. We're doing basically live podcast there. Right?
Dave Rubin
We're gonna. I'm not even gonna tell you what we're doing. You're just gonna show up, they're gonna make some announcements on the PA and we're gonna throw you out there and see what happens. Yeah, we're gonna do some standup. We're gonna do. I'm gonna write a live show that day. So we'll do a podcast thing. We'll do some giveaways. We got tequila for the people. We'll have a little sit down with Desantis. Really, the whole idea of this was, you know, Desantis is wrapping up the second term now. He's, you know, he's got just basically a couple months left. And he's done such an incredible job. I mean, literally, my life completely changed because this guy made that state the archetype of freedom in the country. I wanted to celebrate that. The Fillmore. Have you done the Fillmore before? It's a freakin.
Adam Carolla
I don't think so.
Dave Rubin
Oh, Bill Maher did his last HBO special there. It's an awesome, awesome theater. And I just want it to be a celebration of Florida and freedom and, you know, it's a little bit before our big 250th birthday on July 4th and all that good stuff. And just get some of my friends and have just. It's just going to be fun.
Adam Carolla
We going to have a dinner? Yeah.
Dave Rubin
And I'm going to take you out to dinner with the gov. And guess what, Adam?
Adam Carolla
I'm going to split a potato with the rich.
Dave Rubin
Not splitting a potato.
Adam Carolla
Who is the rich? Who has the highest net worth at that table?
Dave Rubin
We'll probably get some primo people in there.
Adam Carolla
And it's at a flavor spot.
Dave Rubin
It's at a very fancy steak place. And you are having your own potato. You know what? I'm going to seat you at a separate table just to show you the table. Just. You are going to just you take this guy out to dinner.
Adam Carolla
Who would I split that potato?
Dave Rubin
David Sacks. The man is a billionaire.
Adam Carolla
I still.
Dave Rubin
He's now our czar of cryptocurrency or whatever. But he was a major VC guy. It was before he took the job in the administration. I sit you guys down and Prager's there and Sage and was Larry Elder there and a few other people. Everyone get whatever you want. Enjoy. It's on me. You turn to a billionaire. Will you split a potato with me? I just can't. I can't stop with this one.
Adam Carolla
It's a good one.
Dave Rubin
But, you know, Drew brought it up yesterday on his show that that happened because he was there too. And he said, you know, it perfectly explains Adam and it perfectly explains the mind of a billionaire. A billionaire gets to be a billionaire by doing some stuff like that, even if he's not paying for it. And Adam Carolla, you are a salt of the earth guy who doesn't want
Adam Carolla
a potato to go to waste at the steakhouse. The Potatoes come in at like £3 and a half will do it. And I'm not throwing that other half
Dave Rubin
away, but I just love that you either didn't know who he was or didn't or just had never met before or whatever. The fact that it was the billionaire,
Adam Carolla
I knew who he was. But my feeling is half a potato is half a potato.
Dave Rubin
At the end of the day, at
Adam Carolla
the end of the day, here's the other thing that's been going on which I'm interested in, which is a guy, a whistleblower just got in front of Congress, well not Congress, cuz the Democrats don't show up, but half of them and started talking about the COVID cover up, which is, remember a few years ago, remember Libby Schaff was complaining about racism and the notion of the origin of COVID would come up and some people would say it was from a wet market and then someone would say it's from a lab. And then you'd be called a racist and shouted down and have every expert on CNN tell you why you were wrong. Guess what? Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, everybody. Surprise, surprise about COVID As it turns out, the thing you got yelled at. If you just want in terms of the things CNN yelled at you the loudest about or progressives yelled at you loudest about or whatever Biden said, or whatever anybody said, lab origin would be up there, Masks, of course, vaccines, whatever it is that CNN said was wrong. Challenge me, find me something that were correct about laptop.
Dave Rubin
Very fine. People do it all day long, right?
Adam Carolla
But I'm just talking about in the realm of COVID everything they got was wrong. So remember, it didn't come from a lab in China except for I knew it came from a lab in China and I'm in North Hollywood. How the did I know that? Because it made sense that it came from a lab in China. And eventually, by the way, if you read the tea leaves, if you realize everything they yelled about, they were wrong about, then this is just one more thing that we're gonna be wrong about. But we have the whistleblower, which is James Erdman iii, I guess, and he was a FBI guy I think, and he's just. It's three and a half minutes. So this breaking news. Go ahead.
James Erdman III
Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the COVID pandemic originated as a result of a lab incident. Motives are difficult to define given the scope of the Diggs review. Intentional or not, the IC's actions resulted in cover up, wasted resources and a failure to properly inform policymakers. Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization MRNA products being mandated by the former administration.
Dave Rubin
The guy with the beard and mustache there, I know that guy. That's Matt Kibb from Blaze.
Adam Carolla
Oh, in the back.
Dave Rubin
Yeah. I don't know if he's still on Blaze, but that's Matt.
Adam Carolla
That's interesting.
Dave Rubin
He's a big libertarian podcaster type. Also, the face on the other guy
Adam Carolla
kinda look like that guy just broke wind. All right. No Democrats showed up for this hearing, by the way. Why not? I thought you guys were about science. Weren't we about science? We embraced science. Right?
Dave Rubin
They mean their science.
Adam Carolla
No, Democrat. I just love the fact that you get to be wrong about something for five years and then at some point you just boycott when someone is right. By the way, I sent a tweet out with this and I just said,
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Adam Carolla
You gu wrong about everything and I don't expect an apology. But next time, don't act so sure of yourself about stuff you don't know about.
Dave Rubin
But don't you think they would just do it all over again? I don't even mean like we have much better people in government right now. So Bobby, obviously, and Jay Bhattachary and we have much better people at the NIH level and all that stuff. So I don't think they would do anything the way that the previous people did. But don't you think. I think literally 98% of people would behave exactly the same way the first.
Adam Carolla
They didn't learn a thing.
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
James Erdman III
Dr. Fauci's role in the COVID up was intentional. Dr. Fauci influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to ensure the IC consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public health officials and scientists. This included some of the authors of the paper. The proximal origin of SARS CoV 2 and other public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20 plus years. Some of the scientists were part of the Biological Sciences Experts Group, or the bceg, an Office of Director, National Intelligence Advisory Body, whose members often receive considerable funding from NIAID and public health agencies. The BCEG scientist influenced national laboratory WMD research, policy decisions, finished analysis, and other intelligence matters, creating misaligned incentives and conflicts of interest.
Adam Carolla
So remember, Rand Paul had Fauci up there five years ago and he was basically saying, this is gain of function. It came from a lab and this was on your watch, and you guys were experimenting with this stuff and Fauci, he was kind of doing a word play with getting a function and trying to get out of it. Fauci lied.
Dave Rubin
He basically said. Then he said next in the next sentence and he used a double negative. So it was all very confusing, right?
Adam Carolla
Yes. Your hero. Remember the guy was on the candle? Fauci, The Saint Fauci candle.
Dave Rubin
Man, why did I buy all those candles? I can't move them now. They're just sitting in my garage.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Remember when they loved Michael Avenatti?
Dave Rubin
Have you seen that compilation clip of all of these movies?
Adam Carolla
I love it. I love watching the ladies from the View. Fawn, what is it?
Dave Rubin
Ana Navarro. She's like, my God, he's gonna be president.
James Erdman III
I love him so much.
Adam Carolla
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? I guess is what I'm saying. Fauci's corrupt. He was corrupted. I told all you guys this a long, long time ago.
James Erdman III
They received funding from NIAID and other agencies for vaccine research, USAID's PREDICT project, the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. It even worked with Chinese scientists on coronavirus and other pathogen studies pursuing vaccines. There was no oversight monitoring how this web of relationships influenced research, policy and public health in any holistic way for over 20 years. In fact, several of the BCEG scientists helped Dr. Fauci rewrite definitions of gain of function in 2015 to lift a funding pause on dangerous research. Still others participated in Planning Event 201 in 2019. This was a coronavirus pandemic tabletop exercise, curiously similar to the events that played out during the COVID 19 pandemic. And it was attended by Dr. Fauci and individuals with IC ties like former DNI Avril Haynes.
Adam Carolla
And by the way, you can tell when someone's lying. When they know something that's not knowable. That's how you're lying. It's like they all knew Ivermectin didn't Work. How do you know Ivermectin doesn't work? Anderson Cooper, you never heard of Ivermectin before? And you're not a doctor. So when people are agnostic about things, they're telling the truth. And sort of micro and macro. Like when, you know, when. When someone goes, you know, I don't know, you know, have you seen Steve? And you go,
Dave Rubin
no.
Adam Carolla
Who's Steve? That usually means that. Whatever. But if they go, he's a liar. Screw Steve. Don't believe what he says.
Dave Rubin
You know what I mean?
Adam Carolla
Like, if someone just went, look, maybe it came from a pangolin. Maybe it came from a lab. How would we know? China's not gonna tell us, right? And we don't have. We don't have a way to figure that out. It's gonna take a while. But you knew it came from a wet market that was next to a lab. So how do you know that? Well, you don't know it, and that's how I know you're lying.
Dave Rubin
I remember the first day that I had to put on a mask to go to the supermarket. Went to Whole Foods in Sherman Oaks. And I remember thinking when I put the mask on for the first time, how stupid it all was, because it didn't. Because I was breathing, obviously out of the top and out of the bottom. The stuff that we all know now. But going in there and that, you know, they were letting, I don't know, six people in at a time.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
Dave Rubin
And that literally, we came home and people were. We didn't do it, but people were spraying their. The paper bag.
Adam Carolla
The paper bag that they put the food in.
Dave Rubin
They were spraying it down with aerosol and everything else. Like, the level of stupidity across the board in the. You know, at a restaurant, when you're walking to the table, Howard Stern quarantined a mask somewhere.
Adam Carolla
I know he quarantined his equipment in a box for, like, two weeks.
Dave Rubin
You know, I did a show with my hero. I wish he was still alive. Larry King. And his health was failing at the end before COVID and he did a show. And I don't think this is up anywhere, but, you know, because it was before we connected live. But his guys were in a hazmat suit behind him, literally, like, the nuclear bomb had fallen. They had the yellow thing with the giant, you know, like, right out of Outbreak.
Adam Carolla
Oh, sure, yeah.
Dave Rubin
And they were putting makeup up on him with a hat. What did we do?
Adam Carolla
Fear. We became very fear based. Fear is a huge problem. People don't know how destructive it is. And leaders use safety to control everybody. This guy, Justin Pearson, that guy's the greatest because he's turned into Malcolm Triple X, which I like it when guys turn. Like, that was my thing with Kaepernick. If you saw Kaepernick out of college, he looked like a Syrian cab driver. And then all of a sudden, super fro and leather jacket and D.L. hughley's that way. Like, I like when these guys. It's weird when it happens later.
Dave Rubin
Well, they also. It's not just the hair. They change their affect. They change the speech pattern.
Adam Carolla
I'm Italian, so it'd be like somewhere like three years ago, Adam started dressing like a gondolier and speaking with a thick accent.
Dave Rubin
Mama Mario.
Adam Carolla (in character)
Hey, Luigi, look at that.
Adam Carolla
Hey. Hey.
Adam Carolla (in character)
You said the chicken parmesan. I'm a try to jump a troop.
Adam Carolla
Like, what if I just started? You go, adam's a dick. And I'd insane.
Dave Rubin
I'd like that, actually, because that was fun. Well, I could do that for the next hour.
Adam Carolla
So this is. Look at this guy. We just whacked Justin Pearson together first. And we've all seen Jasmine Crockett and everyone else do this. I don't know why they're not humiliated. It's as if there's no videotape exists, right?
Dave Rubin
Look at him. Young, sharp, good looking guy, well dressed,
Adam Carolla
short haircut, clean, articulate. Come on. All right, here's the first version of him.
Political Candidate
President of bsg. There are a few reasons that we're running this campaign this year. One has to do with representation. How can we represent all voices in a conversation? I wanted to do this by partnering with organizations from the Boone Democrats to the Boone Republicans.
Adam Carolla (in character)
I believe. I believe in a division of people who've been ostracized coming to the well. I see white folk and black folk. I see queer folk and straight folk. I see rich folk and poor folk. But right now, That's gonna change this country. It's this movement in this moment in time.
Dave Rubin
By the way, you know what he's doing?
Adam Carolla
I need black people behind me, because every time I go, here's what I want to do, three white people go, I don't think that's gonna work.
Dave Rubin
You can't gin up white people. No, you just can't. But you know what he's doing? Remember coming to America? He's doing Arsenio hall as the preacher.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dave Rubin
Can you guys play some of that? Or is that copyright or something? Can you get five seconds of this?
Adam Carolla
Hold on. Play five seconds of this. Remember, this is him. This is the old version of him.
Political Candidate
Rats to the Boone Republicans. I want to bring together different voices, dissenting voices, voices that may be more liberal or more conservative, in order that we can reach a point of sort
Adam Carolla
of the radical middle.
Dave Rubin
What are these people doing? Who's falling for? But again, it's all connected. All this stuff is always connected.
Adam Carolla
Well, it's all the same people who buy the same crazy. And that's how I know they're lying. Because if they were being intellectually honest, then you'd go, what do you think about Joe Biden? You go, okay, I voted for Joe Biden. And then you'd go, what about Hunter Biden's laptop? And they go, oh, well, that's real. And then you go, what about COVID They go, well, I believe Covid's real. What about masks? You don't need to wear a mask. What's a paper mask gonna do? Like, you'd find some back and some fore, like Republicans do. They argue about Israel and they fight about tariffs. And you go, who's right? Who's wrong? Well, at least they're being intellectually honest because they're having an argument. You guys, the guys on the left were all lockstep on everything Covid, and nobody ever raised their hand and went, well, she probably came from a lab, right? No, no, they're all lockstep on. On Biden's cognitive abilities. They're all locked up on Hunter Biden, all the stuff they're all locked in on. And that means they're lying because they would be saying, no, I don't think that's true. But I agree with you on this other stuff.
Dave Rubin
Well, this is what people on the Internet, they're always saying. They're a bunch of theater kids, and that's kind of what they are. They all love the performative part of this. When I was on tour with Jordan Peterson, Jordan was a clinical psychologist for decades. He was a professor for decades at Harvard and University of Toronto and other places. He was not a performer in any way. But what I was always most amazed by, beyond, obviously, like, the crazy intellect and the stuff that he was saying was he would stalk the stage, like, you know, like some comics do the
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Dave Rubin
You can picture, like, Richard Lewis kind of bouncing. And he became a performer, but it was only because it was an extension of him doing something that was true. These guys do the reverse of that. They perform while they're extending something that's nonsensical he doesn't believe any of that. And all. And you're right, like all the people behind him and everyone's. They're all having a fever dream together, right? And it's like, this is all nonsense, but they walk away like, boy, well, we were yelling an awful lot.
Adam Carolla
And also to what end? Like, what's the plan? What's the policy? How are you helping the black community? What is working? What would help the black community is dads stay, have intact families, raise the kid. It's all just kind of diet and exercise.
Dave Rubin
Lower taxes.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's just real basic stuff. And statistically, go to high school, graduate high school, wait to have a family until after your marriage. You know, real normal, basic stuff. But that would. By the way, that's not for the black community. The FILLMORE Miami man. June 11th. It's gonna be a cavalcade of who is who. DeSantis and Shapiro and Jillian Michaels. I'll be there.
Dave Rubin
I might make you eat a potato.
Adam Carolla
I'm eating a whole potato. Where do we go for it?
Dave Rubin
Davrubin.com events and will you if people buy the meet and greet tickets, will you. You'll shake a few hands.
Adam Carolla
By the way, I'm spelling meet M E a T because you're buying me a tomahawk before we're going to a
Dave Rubin
pretty swank restaurant with the gov. Before it is a steak joint. But I'll cook you. I know you like the smoked meats.
Adam Carolla
Yep, I'll be there.
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Title: Even Press Shocked by How Dumb Dem Mayor Really Is
Guests: Adam Carolla & Dave Rubin
Date: May 14, 2026
In this fiery and comedic episode, Dave Rubin joins Adam Carolla for a wide-ranging conversation skewering recent political mishaps, especially surrounding urban leadership on the West Coast. Their main focus is the now-infamous press conference by former Oakland mayor Libby Schaaf, whose handling of a “hate crime” incident (involving workout ropes hung by a Black parkgoer) epitomizes, to Rubin and Carolla, the dysfunction and overreach in progressive city governments. The hosts blend satirical takes, real-world observations, and critique of political correctness, tying these issues to broader cultural and pandemic responses.
Dave Rubin’s Return to LA:
Adam Carolla on Mayor Karen Bass:
Rich vs. Poor Dynamics:
Satirical Analogies:
Class Division Confirmation:
Breakdown of the Incident [06:13–24:00]:
Notable Quote [13:41]:
Press & Public Reaction:
Congressional Whistleblower Segment [27:28–34:00]:
Memorable Satirical Quote [30:23]:
Mocking Political Affectation:
Contrast with Sincerity:
Key Observation [40:51]:
Adam Carolla on What Would Actually Help:
Upcoming Live Show Plug & Recap:
The conversation is highly satirical, caustic, and fast-paced, with both hosts weaving humor, cultural critique, and frustration over perceived political absurdity. The style alternates between anecdotal, observational comedy (Carolla’s forte) and sharp, polemical political commentary (Rubin’s specialty), all with a performative flourish.
This summary captures the episode's major themes, discussions, and character, providing a detailed guide for those who haven't listened but want the core insights—and a feel for the tone—of this Rubin Report outing.