Megyn Kelly (4:15)

I did ask Joe Biden to be transparent about his health records in an interview in 2020. I did ask him about the fact that voters.

Jake Tapper (4:21)

Then he wasn't.

Megyn Kelly (4:22)

That he, he was not transparent at all.

Jake Tapper (4:24)

He promised you that he would be transparent about his health records and Then he wasn't. And when you sat with him again, including one month, including one month after the Jackie Walorski thing, you didn't ask him about it. You didn't follow up on the fact that he was falling up the stairs, that he was losing his train of thought regularly, that he was slurring, that he was incomprehensible, that he was getting lost on the White House lawn. You sat right across from him, and you asked. None of that notwithstanding the fact that he had promised you he would be fully transparent about his health issues. You know as well as I do that there's a way of. You can say, hey, there's this poll on your age, or you could say you just forgot that Jackie Walorski was dead. You, you asked where she was moments after watching a videotape tribute to her. You lowered the flags at the White House after she died. This happened 13 days before you sat with him. There is a way of pressing a man like that on the actual infirmities to bring it home to him and to the audience. And you didn't do it. It wasn't just, I mean, you sat with him a couple of times in the course of his presidency and these issues were not pressed. Well, there was at least that time, and then there was the time at the beginning and. But separate and apart from that, you covered the Biden's presence. No, no, no. Let me, let me just finish my point.

Megyn Kelly (5:24)

You covered the Biden with him during.

Jake Tapper (5:25)

His, and it was 13 days after the Jackie Walorski thing. But you covered the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years, and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. I mean, time and time again, when issues came up, you seem to be running cover for the president.

Dave Rubin (5:39)

You know how so often on this show I tell you that when someone's telling the truth, it's kind of easy to say. And it's just like it rolls off your tongue because you don't have to think about it. It's just real and it's now and it's true. And Megan is just doing that. That's a journalist doing journalism. She is holding him to account. Oh, there was the woman who was dead that Joe Biden thought was in the crowd after they played a video eulogizing her. Oh, there were four years of obvious stuff as it related to his cognitive stuff. And now you wrote a book about it, even though you didn't cover it while a whole bunch of people online were covering it. Did an absolutely great job. The guy in the third screen there, the third little box there was Alex Thompson, who's the, you know, quote unquote, co author of this book. But Jake is clearly getting the heavy fire right now because again, people, to whatever extent you think that CNN is still a news organization, people think that Jake. Jake is a somewhat serious or competent newsman. So he really stepped into it this time. I just don't understand. I would have loved. And Jake, if you want to do the show, I know I've been very critical of you, but I would treat you the exact same way I would treat anyone else on this show, which I think I've never failed at, which is with respect, but I would love to know when Jake was probably. I doubt it was his idea to write the book. When someone came up, whether it was his publisher or someone at CNN or it was his manager or agent or whoever, when they sat him down and were like, hey, someone's going to write the book. What happened to Biden and the scandal behind it and all of the leaks that are gonna come out and the things that we're gonna find out, like, they were about to put him in a wheelchair and all this stuff. Like, didn't Jake think, boy, I am really, if I do this, I am really opening myself up to criticism. Because I gotta tell you guys, it is pretty crazy having been on two book tours. You know, one, one of the things that happens, you go on these shows and people usually ask you about the book and they may say, I agree with you on this, I disagree with you on this, or what did you mean by this? Or why did you write that? That sort of thing. But it's usually somewhat. It's somewhat friendly. That's just how book tours are. When I was on both book tours, the only mainstream I could get on was Fox. I gladly. We tried to get on MSNBC and cnn, which would have been much more oppositional. Obviously, they wouldn't even put us on. But this instance is particularly bizarre because for an author to have a book come out and then just be getting crushed and slammed over the head by everybody, not only the people interviewing him, but just the Internet writ large, like, it really is unique. What's happening. We've got a little bit more from Megan with the smackdown.

Megyn Kelly (8:17)

Joe Biden has been saying stupid things for decades.

Jake Tapper (8:20)

Okay, but that. But this minimizes it, too, because it was. No, I'm not minimizing it all, but I'm just. I'm telling you, like over here in my ecosphere, we were covering all of these. It Wasn't just falling down, it was getting lost. It was some of the stuff you report in your book. We knew and we were reporting on like the multi jump cuts in the videos of him where it was obvious he couldn't get through a one minute take so they had to use those. It was clear to us that he was using teleprompter and there was some reporting on that at the time. All of which the White House was denying. Now with the current White House, I have some connections with the Joe Biden White House. I had none. But you did. You did. And so while you know, Washington 30 years, Jake, you guys, you and CNN have White House connections. But there was no effort, none to get to the bottom of this. And now this book, like there was a cover up. It's like you, there was a cover up and there was an attempted cover up. It could only ever work do a lot.

Dave Rubin (9:09)

I want to double down on my credit to Megan here for a second because it's not easy to do what she's doing. It's one thing to just like tell, tell the truth and all that. Like that's important. I'm not minimizing telling the truth obviously, but you know, she probably has some pre existing relationship with Jake Tapper. You know, one of the things that becomes hard when you become a public person and you're in this swamp and you see how the sausage is made and all these things, you start becoming friendly with these things. I have no doubt that Megyn Kelly has been to many parties probably with Jake Tappers. They might know each other's spouses, they may have met each other's kids. It's not the easiest thing to do what she's doing there, just on the human level, outside of the journalist level. But of course she's, you know, she said a couple things there. First off, when Jake says, well Joe Biden said a lot of stupid things. Well okay, yeah, he has said a lot of stupid things over the years. But that's not what this is about and you know it. She then makes the point that you were ignoring it while us in our ecosphere. And what she's talking about is us, right? She's talking about the Internet people that we were all out here watching the unedited videos or noting that why is it that when Joe Biden when they have to have do literally a 30 or 60 second straight to camera thing that they have to jump cut it seven times. And the reason is because he can't say two consecutive sentences without mucking it up. We know that that is why they do jump cuts, period. So let's just jump over to one more. Here's. Well, we have a few more, but let's just stick with kind of hammering Jake, so to speak. Here's Jake reporting on Trump's mental fitness compared to Biden's mental fitness. So this is 2018, how he was dealing with Donald Trump versus 2024, how he was dealing with Joe Biden.

Megyn Kelly (10:48)

Welcome to the Lead. I'm Jake Tapper. We begin this afternoon with breaking news. A stunning report out this afternoon revealing just how concerned at least one top administration official was about the chaos of the Trump presidency and the behavior of President Trump. The New York Times reporting that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told FBI and Justice Department officials that he was considering secretly recording President Trump to try to document the dysfunction he was witnessing. And even discussed trying to garner support from Cabinet officials to potentially invoke the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution. This would remove President Trump from office or being unfit to serve. This is according to several people who describe these events to the New York Times. Obviously, his behavior is erratic and unusual. Do you think there's a case to be made that he's unfit in our politics? Lead. The White House today vehemently pushing back on a new report on the president's age and mental acuity. The White House communications director posting that the story in the Wall Street Journal was a complete and utter editorial failure by the Wall Street Journal. Makes you wonder who they're taking orders from, unquote. Maybe that's an insinuation because the Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corps, which is run by the Murdochs. This is all in response to this headline today from the Journal. Quote, behind closed doors, Biden shows signs of slipping. Unquote. Beyond the headline, there is some critical nuance here. The article is mostly based on observations of Republicans, with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy the only one going on the record, as always.

Dave Rubin (12:17)

Do you see why they want to censor the Internet? Do you see why I like going back into those old videos? So in 2018, he's talking about Donald Trump being unfit and we're talking to White House sources and. And in 2024, when asking those questions, it's because Fox is owned by News Corp and everything else. So they don't want you to see the things that you can see in front of your eyes. And the reason I think this story is so important, it's because it's connected to Covid. It's connected to the border. It's connected to all of the nonsense where they lie and lie and lie and then they ignore, ignore, ignore, and then eventually it all, it all just like gets crumbled up right in front of our face to the point we can't ignore it. Which is exactly what happened on June 27th of last year, the night of the debate when the airlock could not contain the truth anymore. And unfortunately, Jake was part of that. So the irony here is that the thesis of Jake's book is that there was a massive cover up in the Biden administration, in the Biden White House and with the Biden family and people around them as it pertains to Joe Biden's mental acuity. But Jake, if you want to maybe write a follow up book or if you want to put up an extra, an extra chapter digitally, I have an idea for you. How about a new thesis which is that the media was actually part of it, in which case you would just need a mirror. Let me just say one other thing about Jake real quick. I, I don't think I already said, I think he was a d, you know, a decent guy years ago when they brought him in. He gets caught in the CNN ecosystem. But just at a human level, Jake Tapper does not strike me as a horrible human being. Like some of these guys, like genuinely strike me as terrible people like Acosta and Stelter and Lemon. Like some of them are just bad people who knowingly are just doing awful things all the time and everything else. Yes. Do I think he was running cover for the administration? Obviously. Was it bad that he did that? Yes. Was it in due dereliction of his duties as a journalist? Yes, all those things. But he doesn't strike me as a bad person, but he's just getting his comeuppance here. Did you not think, as I said earlier, did you not think that this was going to happen when you got the deal for the book and they write you the check and they go, here's 800 grand advance. We're going to write the book. Was he like, all right, I guess 800 is worth, like basically burning up my career, which is what he's doing right now. That would be an interesting question to ask him. Let's talk about boner pills and then we'll have more on Tapper.

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Jake Tapper (16:32)

But you covered the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years and, and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. I mean, time and time again when issues came up, you seem to be running cover for the President.

Megyn Kelly (16:44)

I don't, I don't think.

Jake Tapper (16:46)

Well, I mean, we'll start with the Lara Trump issue that you referred. Here it is. This happened in 2020.

Megyn Kelly (16:52)

Joe Biden, as we all know, his work to overcome a stutter. How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?

Jake Tapper (17:01)

First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe Biden ever suffered from a stutter. I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to it makes me uncomfortable.

Megyn Kelly (17:15)

You have no.

Jake Tapper (17:18)

You'Re trying to tell me that what I was suggesting was.

Megyn Kelly (17:21)

I think you were mocking his stutter. Yeah, I think you are mocking his stutter. And I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline.

Jake Tapper (17:29)

And it's very concerning to a lot of people that this could be the leader of the free world. That is all I'm saying. I genuinely sorry for Joe.

Megyn Kelly (17:37)

I appreciate it. I'm sure it was from a place of concern. We all, we all believe that. Lara Trump, thank you so much.

Jake Tapper (17:44)

Do you want to apologize to Lara Trump now?

Megyn Kelly (17:48)

I've already apologized to her. I called her months ago.

Jake Tapper (17:51)

And what does she say?

Megyn Kelly (17:54)

I mean, I don't want to disclose the contents of a private conversation, but I thought the conversation went well and she said she has said this publicly, so I feel fine sharing it. She said that she would never mock anybody's stutter again.

Dave Rubin (18:06)

Reiterating one more time, this is just a bang up job by Meghan. It's not the easiest thing to do. Like they travel in some of the same circles for as far out of the mainstream as Megan now is in this ecosystem that we exist in that number one. Number two, it's the smugness and dismissiveness of Tapper. So, yes, I am glad to hear that he apologized to her. He owed her an apology. Lara Trump, by the way, is an absolutely spectacular human being. I was at an event about a month and a half ago over at Mar A Lago. She spends a ton of time. Her and Eric spend a ton of time helping kids with cancer. They are really a spectacular couple and she's a wonderful human being. But putting that aside, I've been paying attention to politics for quite some time. I don't know, three decades at least. I know I got into 1988 exactly when I got into politics. I was in eighth grade. It was during the Dukakis George H.W. bush election and we did a mock election in my class and that was the first time I got into politics. I was 12 years old. So it's a long time already. I never remember hearing until these last couple years that suddenly Joe Biden had a stutter. Joe Biden ran for president multiple times. He ran for president, I think, in 1988 as well. As a Democrat, he had to step down because or he had to end his campaign because he got caught plagiarizing. But suddenly as Joe Biden's brain broke down, the meme went out there that to the mainstream. Oh, he's got a stutter that and they really thought they could pull the wool over our eyes on that and that we were going to buy it. And I guess a few people did buy it. But the disgusting part of that. And again, I'm glad he apologized so I won't hit him over the head with this again. But the really disgusting part was at the end when he's saying goodbye to her. Yeah. Yeah. It's because you really care about him. It's just like, it's so smug and awful. Let's just go to the time machine for a minute. Here's a little compilation of Biden just not doing the job of president particularly well and often having Jill at his side either encouraging or running cover.

Alex Thompson (19:54)

Putin may circle Kiev with tanks, but.

Dave Rubin (19:57)

He'Ll never gain the hearts and souls.

Alex Thompson (19:59)

Of the Iranian people. Inflation is a worldwide problem right now because of a war in Iraq and the impact on oil and what Russia is doing, whether or not they're pulling back from Fallujah, it's hard to tell.

Dave Rubin (20:11)

But he clearly losing the war in Iraq.

Alex Thompson (20:13)

I mean, the idea we had to wait all those months just to get the money for Iraq because we were waiting.

Dave Rubin (20:19)

Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question. You knew all the facts. And let me ask the crowd, what did Trump do? L. Yes. I gotta tell you guys, it does not bring me joy to bring you those clips anymore. Like, it's deeply depressing. They had an opportunity to do something. Really. You're doing it. Good. Good job. Keep going. Yay. Good job. You, you spoke on the camera. Good job. You see, guys? You see? You see like that. She, she really. And as a doctor, let's not forget Whoopi wanted that woman to be surgeon general of the United States of America. That Jill Biden did this like that, that moment where she's like, you answered all the questions. That's literally, it sounds like a kindergarten teacher talking to a kindergartner, a five year old. And that was after the debate on, on June 27, 2024. And they, they, they tried and they almost did it. They almost made it happen. Here's a bit more of CNN running cover for Biden's stutter.

Jake Tapper (22:04)

President Biden got his physical today at Walter Reed, probably his last checkup before he's expected to announce he's running for reelection. He's already our oldest president. He'd be 86 at the end of a second term. So what do the results of his physical tell us? He's apparently according to his own doctor, President Biden remains a healthy, vigorous 80 year old male who is fit to successfully execute the duties of the presidency. All right, well, all questions answered there. I guess President Biden does have word finding difficulties.

Dave Rubin (22:32)

He does.

Jake Tapper (22:33)

I mean, whenever, any time you hear him in a speech, he does stumble. And I don't know if that's his stutter or if that's the prompter he does. And as you know, his critics seize on that. I just think that, you know, when, when you watch other networks, they edit it strategically to show his flubs, to show him stammering. They, they do that and then they sort of, you know, send wring their hands about how concerned they are.

Dave Rubin (22:55)

God, that woman looks worse than Tapper on some of these. She's like, well, they said it. So, you know, let's wrap it up, we'll see you next week. Everybody. Where's my Pulitzer? Everybody, let's roll. I mean, it's just again, all of the stuff, guys, it's just like we can all deal with so much bullshit. We really can. But post Covid and BLM and boys or girls, like you guys poured so much bullshit on us that at some point we're like, just had enough bullshit. You know what image I'm getting? I'm getting Mad Max beyond the Thunderdome. When they take Master, remember they take little Master, he's on Master Blaster and they drop him into the pig shit and he's covered with shit and he's pissed. That's us right now. We're a covered in shit. We've had enough of this nonsense. Here's Jake Tapper talking about how and it would have been nice if he would have said this during the administration, but suddenly he's having all these revelations. My God, it's incredible. His brain's turning on that. Apparently Hunter Biden was a big decision, a big decision maker in the White House and for the family. Although he's a degenerate. How big a factor was the Hunter stuff?

Megyn Kelly (24:06)

I think it was considerable. I think Hunter was driving the decision making for the family in a way that people. He was almost like a chief of staff of the family.

Dave Rubin (24:15)

Does that strike you as pretty bizarre?

Megyn Kelly (24:17)

It's bizarre because I think he is provably, demonstrably unethical, sleazy and prone to horrible decisions.

Dave Rubin (24:26)

Tell me how you really feel.

Megyn Kelly (24:28)

Well, I mean, I just look at the record. I mean, after his brother died, he cheated on his wife with his brother's widow and then got her addicted to crack. That's just one thing. I could say, I mean it there. I don't have a lot of personal regard for him and just based on having nothing to do with. I barely have ever met him. I've met him like once or twice, but. But I knew Bo. Bo was a great, upstanding guy.

Dave Rubin (24:54)

I knew him too.

Megyn Kelly (24:55)

Really a real loss for the country too. Not just for his family, for the country, but Hunter is not that. And the idea of letting him drive the family car, as it were, is just really, really questionable.

Dave Rubin (25:10)

Joe, Jake, I'm gonna guess that everything you're saying there is true. That he is a degenerate, that he is a liar, that he did get the, what was it? The sister hooked on crack and all the stuff. And there were all the images that have mostly been scrubbed of the Internet of him with what appear to be underage Asian hookers and all of this st. Smoking crack and lighting the pipe and all of the stuff. So if you're right about all that, where were you during these four years? Why didn't you say any of that? So again, you wrote a book. What did you think was going to happen? Now you're telling us the truth when you have a book to sell. But, but you could have done it before because you're the one that says you're a journalist, not me, you. So you should have tried that. I also love the fact again that that's Alex Thompson, the co author sitting next to him. And Alex has got to just be like, whoa, I'm getting out of this one. Because everybody's pissed at Jake. No one has ever been happier to have his name on a book and not be asked a question than this guy, Alex Thompson. Anyway, here is a video edit of Tapper flip flopping on Hunter Biden. Enjoy.

Megyn Kelly (26:16)

There's no evidence to support the allegation. My father was financially involved in my business because it did not happen. There's no fairness or decency in what these Republicans are doing. And I do have to say, whatever you think of Hunter Biden and there's certainly a lot of people in this town, Democrats and Republicans, that do not think a lot of him, there is a certain kind of like cruelty to the campaign against him. Where is Hunter? Where is Hunter? Where is Hunter? Hunter was driving the decision making for the family in a way that people. He was almost like a chief of staff of the family.

Dave Rubin (26:45)

Does that strike you as pretty bizarre?

Megyn Kelly (26:47)

It's bizarre because I think he is provably, demonstrably unethical, sleazy and prone to horrible decisions.

Dave Rubin (26:55)

I mean Tell me how you really feel.

Megyn Kelly (26:58)

Well, I mean, I just, I'm just look at the record. I mean, after his brother died, he cheated on his wife with his brother's widow and then got her addicted to crack. That's just one thing I could say. I mean, it there. I don't have a lot of personal regard for him.

Dave Rubin (27:15)

First off, who hasn't gotten their brother's widow addicted to crack? I mean, name. Has any of you guys not done that? You guys have all done, like, everybody's done that. Like, okay, so fine, if you give him a pass, but you get it again. It's like, Jake, why didn't you two years ago in 2023 or during the Hunter Biden laptop or any of those things while you were kind of running cover for the story. The Hunter Biden laptop and its misinformation and Rudy Giuliani is some scary Trumper and all of those things and these things should be hidden from us and we shouldn't be allowed to share the links to the story. The Hunter Biden laptop story on X and everything else on, well, what was known as Twitter at the time. Like, you could have just chimed in on any of it. Here's another.

Megyn Kelly (27:54)

Taboretti it Carrie, the right wing is going crazy with all sorts of allegations about Biden and his family. Too disgusting to even repeat here. I mean, some of the ones I've seen from the President's son and the president, some of the president's supporters are just wildly unhinged.

Dave Rubin (28:14)

What do you mean they're wildly unhinged? So what were the allegations? The allegations that Hunter Biden was a degenerate? The, the allegations that Hunter Biden was getting his widowed, the wife of his widowed brother to smoke crack or the underage hooker stuff or the lap rest of the laptop stuff or the money laundering or like, what, what, what, what, what, what? No more videos of Tapper for today's show. But we do have Donald Trump on some of what's been going on here with Joe Biden. Joe Biden was not for open borders. He never talked about open borders where criminals of all kinds, shapes and sizes can flow into our country at will. It wasn't his idea to open the border and almost destroy our country and cost us hundreds of billions of dollars to get criminals out of our country and go through the process we are going through now. It was the people that knew he was cognitively impaired and that took over the auto pen. They stole the presidency of the United States and put us in great danger. This is Treason at the highest level. They did it to destroy our country. The Joe Biden that everyone knew would never allow drug dealers, gang members and the mentally insane to come into our country totally unchecked and unvetted. All anyone has to do is look up his record. Something very severe should happen to these treasonous thugs that wanted to destroy our country but couldn't because I came along. Make America great again. That is a very interesting thing that he just wrote right there. Because what he's doing is basically saying Biden was so compromised that we shouldn't be angry at him. Like we've mocked and made fun of and, and all the stuff that we've done to Biden over the years. And I said all the things about Biden and I usually when it comes to the mental stuff, I do it with the backdrop of separate the person from the politician and all of those things, fine. But what he basically is saying right there is that Joe Biden of 30 years ago, go look at that long ass Senate record that Joe Biden has or even some of his record as vp. Even though it, even though towards the end of the VP situation it was starting to crack. But if you look at the man's 30 plus year record in the Senate, you may disagree with him politically, right? But he was basically a moderate Democrat. Did at any point In Joe Biden's 30 year history was he suddenly like open up the borders, do you think? At any point in Joe Biden's history do you think he was suddenly like, I don't know the difference between boys and girls, all of the stuff, right? Was it suddenly the whole country was founded on systemic racism and everything else. So the question is, and this. And so Trump's making a really interesting distinction. At some point. There's no point in talking about Joe Biden anymore. There's because he will be gun gone right in, in effect he's gone already. But there will be a point in talking about the people who did this. Whether that is Jill Biden, whether that was the chief of staff, Ron Klain who was running it, whether it was Schumer and Pelosi, whoever else was around him. Those are the people that were the President of the United States. He sat at the desk, I assume occasionally in the morning at a desk that had a little thing right there and it said President of the United States. But that was the extent of it. And if we don't figure out out who those people were, well, what do I always say? The machine has a way and they will figure out how to do it again. So we've got some work to do. We will have more on the other side. Shifting gears altogether. But first, home title lock. Homeowners, listen up. Your home title and equity are at risk. In today's AI driven cyber hacked world. Criminals are stealing home titles by forging your signature, using fake notary stamps and filing a simple document with the county. 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The Democrats made this man, of course, I'm talking about Kilmara Abrego Garcia. They made him a martyr and a hero. He had Ms. 13 gang signs on his knuckles. They went to El Salvador to talk to him. Chris Van Hollen, Maryland Senator, had a margarita with the guy. Here's Van Holland with Abrego Garcia. And there's the margarita. And very exciting. Is that a cherry on top too? Is that a cherry? From what I'm seeing right there, it looks like he had a cherry on. It's a very exciting time. Great man. Yes. Beat his wife with a boot. The human trafficker. Okay, whatever. Nobody's perfect. Anywho, this is the. This is the guy that the Democrats like. You find a bad dude. There was a video game back in the 80s, I think it was called bad dude like you find a. Can we. Let's see if we can get a screenshot of that. If you find a bad dude, that's who the Democrats like. Any who. Marco Rubio was testifying in front of congress yesterday. And here he is just going off on this ridiculousness around Abrego Garcia and what the judicial branch has done as it pertains to deportations.

Alex Thompson (33:31)

In the case of El Salvador. Absolutely. Absolutely. We deported gang members. Gang members, including the one you had a margarita with. And that guy is a human trafficker. And that guy is a gang banger. And that. And the evidence is going to be clear in the days.

Dave Rubin (33:45)

Mr. Chairman. I'm pleased.

Alex Thompson (33:50)

Chairman.

Dave Rubin (33:50)

He can't make unsubstantiated claims like that. Secretary Rubio has the floor. Secretary Rubio should take that testimony. The federal floor. Senator. United States. Because he hasn't done it under oath.

Alex Thompson (34:00)

Here's another point. Okay. There is a division in our government between the federal branch and the judicial branch. No judge and the judicial branch cannot tell me or the president how to conduct foreign policy. Policy.

Dave Rubin (34:12)

Okay. First off, Van Hollen, look, I'm not for violence politically, but if someone was to be hit in the head with a boot, I think Marco should have just taken his boot off and throw it at Van Holland's head. It is substantiated. We showed you the video a couple weeks ago of years ago with Abrego Garcia getting pulled over in a truck that he claims is his boss's. And he has no identification and they have added extra seats to the car and they're in the wrong state, like. And his own freaking wife is the one that went to the police and said she was beaten repeatedly, including with the boot. Like this. Van Hollen, why. Why do you love bad dudes? Van Hollen, what did your father do to you? That is the question. Anyway, watch this. You know, I've said multiple times from the beginning that Rubio somehow, to me, Trump has done such a great job picking all of these people. We don't have to do the laundry list of people like you just see who's in the cabinet and people are just doing a bang up job. Rubio seems to be the gem right now. I would say like the.

Alex Thompson (35:06)

The.

Dave Rubin (35:06)

The most underrated of all of them. And just watch this great moment when Van Hollen's gone after him and says he regrets voting for him to confirm him to be Secretary of State.

Megyn Kelly (35:16)

I have to tell you directly and.

Dave Rubin (35:17)

Personally that I regret voting for you for Secretary of State. I yield back.

Alex Thompson (35:23)

May I respond?

Dave Rubin (35:24)

You may Sit.

Alex Thompson (35:25)

Well, first of all, your regret for voting for me confirms I'm doing a good job. Based on what I know.

Dave Rubin (35:29)

That's just a flippant statement, Mr. Secretary.

Alex Thompson (35:31)

And I respond. Mr. Chairman.

Dave Rubin (35:32)

Chairman, you may.

Megyn Kelly (35:33)

I didn't ask.

Dave Rubin (35:34)

Senator, please let the secretary.

Alex Thompson (35:35)

I'd be happy to, but then I can respond to his.

Dave Rubin (35:38)

Your time's Up, Senator. And willfully used, I might add. Your remarks do not represent the view of this committee. Well, Mr. Secretary, please.

Alex Thompson (35:46)

Well, I'd like to. I can't respond to everything he said because much of these are untrue, but I'll go through a few. First of all, I'm actually very proud of the work we've done with USAID. For example, I don't regret cutting $10 million for male circumcision in Mozambique. I don't know how that makes us stronger and more prosperous as a nation. I don't regret Psycho Social Support Services.

Dave Rubin (36:05)

I raised Sudan. Mr. Secretary. All right, first off, I'm going to throw in a couple bucks to continue the male circumcision operation in Mozambique. I'll throw in 100 bucks just to make up for a little bit of that. But your tax dollars shouldn't pay for that. We have a funny edit here. Watch this. And I have to tell you directly and personally that I regret voting for you for Secretary of State. State.

Alex Thompson (36:24)

Well, first of all, your regret for voting for me confirms I'm doing a good job.

Dave Rubin (36:31)

Bam. Motherfucker. It continued. You remember Tim Kaine? Tim Kaine was Hillary's choice for vp. He's just like another one of these Tim Walls, Tim Kane. They love the name Tim. If you want just like an average guy who nobody particularly likes that they can throw in for VP on a candidate that nobody likes, who I guess happens to be female, their name is gonna be Tim. Here's Tim Kaine losing it because Rubio suggests that he only cares about skin color, which I'm pretty sure is now in the Democratic Party platform.

Alex Thompson (37:01)

But I'm gonna ask you what?

Dave Rubin (37:02)

So a well justified fear of persecution?

Alex Thompson (37:04)

Yeah. They thought that their farms were being burned down and they were being killed. I think that's a pretty good justification for wanting to come. They're afraid for their lives. And should it be applied in an even handed way, that's an easy no. Our foreign policy. Our foreign policy doesn't require even handedness. It requires prioritizing the statute.

Dave Rubin (37:19)

Phrase says you are entit title to entrance as a refugee. If you demonstrate a well justified fear.

Alex Thompson (37:25)

Of persecution, you're not entitled.

Dave Rubin (37:27)

So if you have a different standard.

Alex Thompson (37:28)

Based upon the color of somebody's skin.

Dave Rubin (37:30)

Would that be acceptable?

Alex Thompson (37:31)

Well, I'm not the one arguing that. Apparently you are, because you don't. The fact that they're white and that's why they're to say that that would be unacceptable. No, I would say in the United.

Dave Rubin (37:37)

States A very easy thing.

Alex Thompson (37:39)

The United States has a right to pick and choose who they allow into the United States, even based on the color of somebody's skin. No one's. You're the one that's talking about the color of their skin, not me. These farms were burned down and they were killed. The color of their skin.

Dave Rubin (37:50)

Well.

Alex Thompson (37:54)

You'Ve demonstrated enough because you think anyone should be allowed into this country for any reason. Because admit it, who has said that we are going to prioritize people that come into our country on the basis of what's in the interest of this country. That's a small number of people that are coming. But you said this weekend that. But in other cases it's harder to vet. In other cases more difficult. And by the way, the United States admits people.

Dave Rubin (38:12)

These guys are just all such dirtbags. Do I even have to bother? Like Tim Kaine, you didn't care again, you didn't care. Just like the media and all the Democrats and the auto pants and you didn't care when 15 million people were coming into this country. You didn't care what skin color they are or anything else. Then the Republicans, the Trump administration let in, I think it was, what was it, 59 of these white people from South Africa whose farms were being burned, who were under attack, who came here with families and kids and they're waving American flags. And I'm gonna go out on a limb, someone please fact check me on this and you could fact check me live. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that they had some family members here, there was some infrastructure ready to welcome them into communities that they had job, they pro jobs, they probably had some money. They weren't just gonna be random people, all 25 to 30 year old men who were just gonna show up and get on the dole and sell fentanyl and you know, murder hookers. Clearly we can show you the video again. I mean they had little children with them that were their own children as opposed to the other guys who come in with other people's children. And you don't have a problem with that. So again. And Marco Rubio wasn't making it about skin color. He's saying, he's saying the obvious truth, which is first off, no one has a right to be an American citizen. If you want to come to America, that's fine. You gotta wait and do it legally and figure it out. And even if you really want to come, and even if you're coming from a really bad place, we still don't have to let you in. There's a door now. And not everyone gets to come in the door. Not everyone gets to come into my house. Like, that's just how it works. We're all discernible. We all discriminate when it comes to who can come in our house. If there was a person walking down the street and let's say he was a fentanyl at carrying an ax, saying, I'd like to kill Dave Rubin, well, I'm not gonna have him over for lunch. What are we having for lunch today? Chipotle. You guys with your Chipotle. What's that true? My fact check was true. We did one on the fly. So they have jobs and they have, most of them have family members here, et cetera, et cetera. We're fact checking live on the Rubin Report today. You should try that over at cnn. Jake Tapper. But Rubio, of course, is right that what we do, it's not, we're not looking at people, oh, my God, bring in more whitey. We're looking at people. We're looking at their circumstances. We're looking at our ability to, quote, unquote, help people. We're looking at what their connections are to this country, what their beliefs are and everything else. And then like everything else, there's a hierarchy. There's an order to importance of what we can do and when we can do it. And Tim Kaine is just a dingbat. More Marco Rubio. Here we go.

Jake Tapper (40:31)

South Africa's president is traveling to the United States this week to meet with President Trump. The administration has prioritized bringing some white South Africans, Afrikaners to the United States despite the increased restrictions on refugees. President Trump claims there's a genocide underway in South Africa. That's a legal determination. The State Department would make it. Are you trying to determine that now?

Alex Thompson (40:58)

I was determined that these people are having their properties taken from them. You can call it whatever they want. But these are people that on the basis of their race, are having their properties taken away from them and their lives being threatened and in some cases killed. These are people that applied and made these claims in their applications and seek to come to the United States in search of refuge. We've often been lectured by people all over the place about how the United States needs to continue to be a beacon for those who are oppressed abroad. Well, here's an example where we're doing that. So I don't understand why people are criticizing it. I think people should be be celebrating it, and I think people should be supporting it.

Jake Tapper (41:33)

Is there evidence of a genocide that.

Alex Thompson (41:34)

You have, they are in favor? I think there's evidence absolutely that people have been murdered, that people have been forcibly removed from their properties both by the government in some cases because of a law they passed, but also because of independent groups encouraged by political parties inside of, inside of South Africa.

Dave Rubin (41:51)

So once again he's just doing a bang up job. You can see what she's trying to do. She's trying to pin this on the word genocide. And the word genocide means something very, very specific which would be a systemic, organized. Well what would you say? A systemic organized, aimed destruction of a certain people based on ethnicity. And you would have to see over time population going down, et cetera, et cetera. Now what we've seen in South Africa, we know this. And by the way, tomorrow in studio I have Rob Herzog. Rob Herzog is a South African businessman who I had on when we were at ARC in, in London in February and he was Talking about the 140 plus race based laws that there now are in South Africa. The fact that they are yes, taking farms away from white farmers and a series of other things. But again it's so interesting that this gets on Meet the Press and Meet the what show is that? Face the Nation and Meet the Face and Face the Nation and Face the Fuck. And it somehow is escalated to these people because 59 white people got got in here. Again you guys didn't have a problem when 15 million people were coming in. Now we got a couple white people in who as we just fact checked live on the show either have jobs and or family in the United States. So they're not just going to be put on the dole and now you're freaking out about it. So once again just bang up job. Marco Rubio. Let's talk about CB Distillery and then we'll get to more about racism. Memorial Day isn't just for BBQs. It's also the perfect time to save big at CB Distillery right now during their massive Memorial Day Memorial Day sale. You can save up to 40% site wide with promo code Rumble. Whether you're looking for better sleep, less stress, improved focus or relief after exercise. CB distilleries. Hemp is US grown third party tested and free from artificial additives. No junk, just clean. CBD you can trust. That's why over 2 million people rely on them. They even have products for pets. Don't miss this chance to stock up@cbdistillery.com with promo code Rumble. All right, from Somebody like Marco Rubio, accompanying confident person with a track record of success who deserves your attention and your respect. To the mayor of Chicago. His name is Brandon Johnson, and he resides over a city that has mass mayhem in the streets. I think we did it already this week. But can we get the numbers on how many people were killed and shot in Chicago over the weekend? I think it was around 19. Shot, four killed, something like that. And that there's been massive fleeing of people, of sensible people from Chicago because people don't like getting shot. You know, you try to go out to date dinner, and it's like, oh, my wife got shot. I think I'm going to leave. You know, people just. You can't. It's not something people are that interested in anyway. This guy is a complete racist. He is an utter, utter, utter buffoon. And finally, this is a man who literally is saying that the city is hiring people based on race. He's saying that the black race is better. Like, the guy is just an abject, old fashioned racist. He just doesn't happen to be the color of racist that the machine likes you to think that racists are. But here he is with a reporter calling him out for being a racist.

Alex Thompson (44:57)

Real Chicagoans woke up this morning relieved that the Department of Justice is finally investigating your race hustle. As someone who grew up on the south side of Chicago, I've heard a lot of race hustlers in my life, trust me. But they were usually marching around outside of city hall, which is what makes this so embarrassing and dangerous. Very, very dangerous to the city of Chicago. Okay, we need that question. I'm more than happy to ask this question. It's long overdue. For over a year, real Chicagoans, white and black, have been telling me that your black power rhetoric is bringing the city backwards from a place that we need the question had overcome. You want the question?

Dave Rubin (45:43)

Please.

Alex Thompson (45:44)

Real Chicagoans want to know, why are you a racist?

Dave Rubin (45:51)

Well, you know, first of all, I reject the idea and the premise that.

Megyn Kelly (45:54)

Somehow that that's an actual legitimate question.

Dave Rubin (45:56)

First off, I want to know the name of that journalist, because that's just great. Like, he actually kind of didn't have a question. He just wanted to basically say you're a racist. Everyone knows you're a racist. I talked to my mom. She knows you're a racist. This guy over here thinks you're a racist. Racist. You're a racist. The other guy, would you ask him a question already? Okay. Why are you a racist? It's just perfect. And then he Rejects the notion. Okay, sorry, sorry. You can reject the notion, but you are a racist. All you talk about is race. Although you don't talk about. We did get some updated numbers. I was off a little bit. 23 people shot in Chicago this weekend. Only two killed. That's pretty good. But likely all black on black crime, which is why he doesn't talk about. About it here. He is talking about he was confronted because apparently a restaurant owner's license was yanked and given to a black owner. Like, the whole thing sounds completely insane unless you were in South Africa. All right, we're gonna go to the next one.

Alex Thompson (46:50)

Alice, the next question, my follow up question is, is a businessman, Robert Gomez, had his riverfront restaurant license yanked. You said that the reason you hire black people is because they're the most generous race on the planet. His riverfront restaurant license was yanked and given to a black restaurateur. That seems to. That has once again reinforced the belief amongst. Among real Chicagoans, white and black. When you mention that you are a racist, what do you say to those people?

Dave Rubin (47:36)

Again, I reject the premise that somehow that your question has any legitimacy.

Megyn Kelly (47:40)

Thank you for your time.

Dave Rubin (47:41)

I like this. It's the same journalist asking the question. I like this guy, whoever he is. I also like the way the camera's framed up where you don't see anyone else but him, as the guy's like, you're a racist, you're a racist. And by the way, you're a racist. Has anyone called this guy a racist at the. And yes, apparently somehow there was a restauranteur who was not black, had his business license revoked, and then they gave it to a black guy. There might be more to the story. I have no idea. But would it surprise you if Mayor Johnson has somehow created a program that is making it easier for black people to become restaurateurs or get business license or whatever it might be. No, by his own words, that's exactly what he's doing. The other thing that he's doing, genius. This, this, this guy, he's not just a racist, he's also a genius. A racist genius, which is the scariest type of racist. He has been getting advice from teenagers about curfews. And, well, here's one such teenager explaining her theory on all of this. This is one of his. This is one of. Brandon Johnson, one of his advisors, I would say.

Alex Thompson (48:43)

I really don't know much about curfews because I wasn't.

Dave Rubin (48:46)

Wasn't one of those teens who would be outside for real.

Alex Thompson (48:50)

Like, I wasn't raised for that.

Dave Rubin (48:51)

But one thing I will say is that I wouldn't think that it would because some people home we trying to escape home.

Alex Thompson (48:59)

You know, teens try to escape home.

Dave Rubin (49:01)

So I feel like a curfew, it might belittle that because while you trying to keep someone in the house, they could be with a safe spaces organization, with a staff, with your co workers or something, you know, like I think. Yeah.

Jake Tapper (49:20)

Do you think that curfews works to.

Alex Thompson (49:23)

Help teens make better decisions? Because the city council right now is.

Dave Rubin (49:26)

Considering a proposal that would allow police to issue curfews anytime, anywhere to help prevent teen takeovers.

Alex Thompson (49:37)

How I really feel about that, I just feel like if the city allow us to give kids something to do so they wouldn't have to do teen takeovers, maybe that's the answer. Maybe we create programmers and give them jobs so we can send peacekeepers to those events to keep the violence down and stuff like that.

Dave Rubin (50:01)

So you see what's going on here. I'm not going to make fun of those kids, obviously. I'm sure they're great kids and they're trying to do the best they can. And he brings them on this board. But so he creates a condition in that city where people are being shot left and right, where people are being killed all the time, where people are fleeing the inner city and everything else. He creates that condition. Then he brings on a board of teens to help him decide what he should do about curfews. It's his fault in the first place. And regardless of what you think about curfews now, I'm not for the state sponsored curfew. Remember when they were trying to do that during COVID It's up to the parents now. I know you guys don't like parents either, but it is up to the parents when their kids can and can't be out. You have to be involved in your children's life. Remember when I was growing up, there used to be interstitial on commercials. It's 10pm do you know where your kids are? And everyone would go no. And then they'd have some whiskey like that's what it was. But at least they asked. You guys have just destroyed absolutely everything. So you wreck the city, you then bring kids on. It doesn't matter whether that kid has a good idea or not or not. It's not up to the kid to decide whether the state should have a curfew over their lives. And the second kid. And again, I'm not making fun of the kids. He's like, it shows you how they really muddled the minds of young people. Because he's basically like, if they could just give us more things to do, then people wouldn't be out there, you know, killing people, in essence, and burning down stores and everything else. And it's like, you know what? Actually, you're kind of right. But it's not the government's responsibility to do that. Could the government maybe put up more lights around basketball courts so that you could play basketball at night? And that might be good. Yeah, that might be something. But. But you have to figure out what. It's your parents and the community that has to figure out what to do so that the. At dusk when the sun goes down, when I would spend my afternoons as a teenager on my bike all day with my friends doing God knows what. And then the sun would come down and we'd come home and we'd eat dinner, and then you didn't go out again. It's. It's about the family and the community, you guys. So the government screws it up and they want the government to solve the thing that they screwed up and which is government 101, actually. But how do we solve all of this? And we're gonna have to go a little short today because I'm on Piers Morgan in about 10 minutes. How do we solve all of this? Well, the way you solve all of it is a. You can do what Megan did, which is you confront it when it's right in front of your face. You don't let the people get off who have lied about everything. That's one way to do it. At sort of a journalistic level, a more fun way to do it is just troll and mock these freaks. This is great. This is Johnny Jones. I know him a little bit from Jesse Waters show. We've met a couple times. He goes yesterday to a James Comey book signing. And of course, James Comey got in a little hot water this week because he took that picture on the beach that he didn't know there were just random numbers on the beach. 86, 47. He had no idea what it meant, but he thought it was very artistic. He took a picture of it, puts it on Instagram. Of course, it did have something to do with killing the President of the United States. Anyway, Johnny Jones goes to the book signing. I think he had to buy a book to get online and watch his little interaction with Mr. Comey. Hello, Director Comey. Yeah.

Alex Thompson (52:59)

How are you?

Dave Rubin (52:59)

Thank you. Jesse Waters from Fox has a question. Yeah.

Jake Tapper (53:02)

Why do you want an 86 Trump?

Megyn Kelly (53:07)

All right.

Dave Rubin (53:09)

Director, I'm not taking questions like that. Now.

Alex Thompson (53:12)

Why, why would you, why would you post that? Director Comey, how was your interview with the Secret Service?

Megyn Kelly (53:23)

You want the book signed?

Dave Rubin (53:24)

Really?

Alex Thompson (53:25)

Absolutely.

Dave Rubin (53:25)

Okay. You got it, brother. Can you sign my seashell, too? Which beach is this that you're going to? You find a Commela Seashell 8647.

Alex Thompson (53:36)

This is a politically charged beach there right now. You don't want to sign it?

Dave Rubin (53:43)

Thank you.

Jake Tapper (53:43)

Thank you.

Dave Rubin (53:44)

Have a good night.

Jake Tapper (53:44)

Have a good night. Thank you.

Dave Rubin (53:46)

Can you sign. Can you sign my seashell? I mean, that's just great. Like, it's just great. And that's what you have to do. And then he has a smile on his face after he didn't threaten him, he didn't get in his face and basically try to flip the table over anything else. He didn't do any. I'm not talking about the tactics that the left does with us, silencing us and everything else. He, he had to buy the book to get online. He bought the book, wasted the 20 bucks on the book. He brought the seashell, which he probably found himself, himself on the beach here. And then he had to waste a perfectly good seashell on that. And, and that's how you do it. You do it with a smile and you mock these people. And one more in terms of mocking and how you just call out the nonsense. This is Elon Musk yesterday going after a reporter who was going after Doge and everything else using the NPC line that I love.

Jake Tapper (54:30)

You've talked about $4 billion a day.

Dave Rubin (54:32)

Being saved, but that, that, that won't get.

Jake Tapper (54:37)

Which is an. I think everyone can agree that combating.

Dave Rubin (54:40)

Waste and inefficiency in government is a.

Jake Tapper (54:42)

Very good thing, but if you add.

Dave Rubin (54:44)

That up, it's not going to get.

Jake Tapper (54:45)

To 2 trillion over the lifetime of DOGE.

Dave Rubin (54:50)

I'm sorry, the 4 billion.

Jake Tapper (54:53)

The 4 billion a day, if those.

Dave Rubin (54:55)

Is going to run till next July.

Jake Tapper (54:56)

Is not going to get you to $2 trillion. But you still say it's your aim.

Dave Rubin (55:04)

So we'll take that as red. There's what Doge, I mean, I feel you're somewhat trapped in the NPC dialogue tree of a traditional journalist. So it's difficult when I'm conversing with someone who's trapped in the dialogue tree of a conventional journalist because it's like talking to a computer. So Doge is an advisory group. We are doing the best we can as an advisory group. The Progress made thus far as an advisory group is excellent. I don't think any advisory group has.

Jake Tapper (55:39)

Done better in the history of advisory.

Dave Rubin (55:41)

Groups of the government. Nonetheless, let's not criticize whether there's 4 trillion and instead look at the fact that 160 billion has been saved and more be will save 2. There's something so great that he did right there. So basically she doesn't deny that they're saving 4 billion a day. What she's saying is, oh, but that's not going to get us to the 2 trillion. So in essence it's like, why even try? And that's just so ridiculous, right? Like what would be like the Jordan Peterson version of that? You aim at something, it doesn't mean you're going to get the exact thing. It doesn't mean we're going to get it. 2 trillion on the nose, but oh my God, we saved a trillion. I don't know. That would be pretty good. That's number one. But so what he's talking about there. So npc, you guys know the phrase it's non playable character. This is when you're in a video game and you know you're a real person and you might meet someone. If you're playing an online multiplayer game, you might meet someone else who's a real person on the other side of the screen. But the NPCs are the programmed players and they have a dialogue tree. So they can all. It's if and this. They can only do certain things. So it's like you go to the store to buy a weapon. If you're playing in, you know, like a medieval game and you want to buy like chain mail or you know, the ball with the spike on it or an Max, the guy who works at the store, he's an npc. He's a non playable character. He can only get you that or tell you you don't have enough money for it or something like that. He can't go out to dinner with you. Right? Like they're only programmed to do certain things. So the dialogue tree that he's talking about there is that they are just programmed to do certain things. The tree will give them so many. They have a layer of answers here and if you answer one way, then they have a different tree here, branches here and here. But they can only do so much and that's what these people do all the time. So to anyone that is stuck in that dialogue tree, whether it's Jake Tapper or your cousin, let's help them break out of NPC mode and think for themselves. That is how you solve problems people. I have no doubt that I'll be solving some problems on Piers Morgan. God knows which leftist dingbats I will be debating momentarily. We will see. So no post game show but reminder, if you are in Hungary or in Israel, I will be there next week and the week after. Budapest, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Australia. End of the year we're going to be adding a Bunch more Dave Rubin.com events. Thank you for watching today's program over and out.