LA Mayor Humiliated by Spencer Pratt's Shocking Election Surge as Votes Come In

Summary

The Rubin Report — June 3, 2026

Episode: "LA Mayor Humiliated by Spencer Pratt's Shocking Election Surge as Votes Come In"

Host: Dave Rubin | Guests/Notable Voices: Spencer Pratt (LA Mayoral Candidate), Steve Hilton (CA Gubernatorial Candidate), Marco Rubio (Secretary of State), Dr. Oz

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Episode Overview

Dave Rubin unpacks a watershed Los Angeles mayoral primary, where reality TV personality Spencer Pratt stuns the establishment by qualifying for a November runoff against incumbent Karen Bass. Rubin explores the implications for LA, California, and the national mood heading into pivotal midterms, while addressing broader election integrity issues, political realignment, and the state of American cities. Additional segments cover California’s gubernatorial race, the overhaul of CBS News under Bari Weiss, a Senate hearing masterclass by Marco Rubio, and government fraud revelations.

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1. LA Mayoral Election: Pratt’s Shock Surge (00:00–23:00)

Key Discussion Points

• Unexpected Momentum for Spencer Pratt

  • With 63% of ballots in: Bass 35%, Pratt 30.5%, Raman (far left) 22%.
  • No candidate over 50% → Bass vs. Pratt runoff in November.
  • Mail-in ballots complicate and potentially delay final tallies.
  • Rubin highlights the “danger” of prolonged ballot counting:

    “Virtually everybody on television yesterday was like, we're not gonna have a result tonight—that in and of itself already shows you that we have a massive problem with our elections.” (04:01)

• Impact of Mail-in Ballots & LA Election System

  • Rubin lambasts mail-in voting:

    “Once you give mail in ballots to everybody, you're telling the system, man, bake in the fraud.” (21:21)

  • Offers anecdote of receiving LA ballot after moving to Florida—raising alarms of outdated rolls.

• Runoff Dynamics & Political Message

  • Pratt’s plainspoken, “not political” persona a sharp contrast to establishment figures.
  • Bass must defend city’s status quo; Pratt simply points to LA’s urban decay, homelessness, and public disorder.
  • Rubin asserts Pratt’s continued presence in the public discourse amplifies urban issues ahead of midterms, benefitting GOP narratives:

    “The more that Spencer Pratt stays in the news, the better that plays for the midterms overall…this decent, not political guy out there because his house burned down, and his parents’ house burned down…” (07:00)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Democrats benefitting from left-flank fragmentation:

  “…if Nithya [Raman] wasn't running, all of those crazy people would have gone, obviously, to Bass…having the crazy Nithya Raman run actually was the best thing that could have happened here.” (07:52)

• Rubin’s warning about ballot “miracles”:

  “…if you want to make some argument for mail-in ballots in very specific cases…fine. But once you give mail in ballots to everybody…bake in the fraud…they would have to pull off something so fraudulent right in front of our eyes…that it would be almost too much to pull off.” (06:39, 21:20)

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2. Spencer Pratt in His Own Words (08:53, 13:04, 69:41)

• On coalition-building, appealing to all Angelenos:

  “I think this idea that I don't represent Democrats and Republicans and Independents, anyone that's just a Los Angeles citizen that wants basic quality of life, I'll be able to show that in five months…It's obviously God's plan and I'm going to go all the way and I'm gonna show everybody that I'm their mayor.” (Spencer Pratt, 08:53)

• Pratt on candidacy’s origins:

  “I'm a fighter for the truth now because you burned my life down. My house, my parents house, down all my neighbors. You put the Spencer, these people think they know is not who they know. January 7th made a new version of me, and I just want to be the mayor that fights for communities.” (13:04)

• On personal cost of running:

  “This is not like, fun. I'm doing this, like, for the real, like, for my heart. Like, I'm risking a lot to do this. I'm not doing this like, oh, I want to be the man. No, I want to make a change.” (69:41)

• Anecdotal LA voter (Democrat, former homeless) explains crossing party lines:

  “As a Democrat, are voting for Spencer Pratt? Yes, sir. Why is that? I do like his approach for the homelessness. As a person who used to be homeless myself…I was able to change my life, 10 years sober… so his approach is really good.” (11:59)

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3. The Bigger Picture: National & Cultural Dynamics (23:00–36:00)

California Gubernatorial Primary

• Steve Hilton, a British-American political outsider, leads the field (with about 28%) and heads to a runoff.

• Democrats split between Becerra (25%) and socialists, making an upset possible.

• Hilton pitches himself as an immigrant and outsider—reminiscent of Schwarzenegger’s gubernatorial win.

  “My mission is very straightforward. Cut your costs, help your business, fix our schools.” (Steve Hilton, 33:30)

  “It's quite spectacular that a white British immigrant is potentially the next governor of California.” (34:11)

Broader Political & Media Analysis

• Rubin reiterates that perceived sanity and patriotism are now powerful contrasts against progressive “commie” governance.
• Reflects on the importance of mainstream media, now being shaken up by Bari Weiss at CBS.

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4. CBS, 60 Minutes, and Bari Weiss’s Revolution (36:29–46:39)

Key Events

• Bari Weiss, as Editor-in-Chief at CBS News, cleaning house at '60 Minutes.'

• Scott Pelley fired after openly accusing Weiss of “trying to kill 60 Minutes” and criticizing new management in a staff meeting.

  “If you go off on your boss, if a boss is brought in, new boss, old boss, doesn't matter…you likely are going to be fired, particularly if you do it in a performative way.” (Dave Rubin, 39:43)

• Pelley’s statement (read on air) alleges forced bias and external political influence at CBS—denied by network leadership.

Notable Quotes

• Weiss addressing newsroom after Pelley firing:

  “I'm only interested in working in a newsroom that is built on trust and mutual respect. We cannot do our work without it. That foundation was broken on Monday…” (Bari Weiss, quoting via Jeremy Barr, 46:04)

• Rubin’s take:

  “You were just a chair there. That's really the truth. And you are not indispensable. And by being basically a dick to your boss, I think they prove that to you.” (45:30)

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5. Masterclass in Policy: Marco Rubio at the Senate Hearing on Iran (53:56–61:16)

Rubio vs. Booker, Murphy, Rosen

• Rubio calmly rebuts Democrat senators’ criticisms on the Iran conflict.
  • Emphasizes Iranian economic collapse—“losing hundreds of millions a day”—as evidence US is not “begging” for a deal.
  • Clarifies US military strategy: blockade direct consequence of Iran’s aggression, not US provocation.
  • Dismantles Senator Rosen’s attack with detailed recounting of his engagement in negotiations.

Memorable Rubio lines

“No one's begging for anything here. The Iranians might be begging because their economy is losing hundreds of millions of dollars a day…they have hyperinflation, their currency is completely devalued…” (Marco Rubio, 54:02)

“I know your staff wrote up this cute statement for your TikTok video, but it's not true and it's not real. That's not what happened.” (61:09)

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6. Government Fraud: Obamacare & California Hospices (62:38–66:00)

• Dr. Oz reveals massive scale of fraudulent enrollments in Obamacare and bogus hospices in LA:

  • Up to 35% of California’s Obamacare users may not be legitimate.
  • 1/3 of all US hospices are in LA, with 850 recently suspended for fraud.

  “There are so many hospices in LA—if they were legit and suddenly stopped getting payments, people would be dying left and right. But that's not happening. It’s because most were fake.” (Rubin paraphrasing Dr. Oz, 64:47)

• CBS segment under Bari Weiss shows confiscated luxury cars (Bugatti, etc.) purchased with fraud proceeds.

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7. Urban Decay & Policy Stagnation (66:00–69:41)

• Rubin skewers Bass’s just-announced $14 million “housing assistance”—argues money alone won't solve homelessness rooted in addiction, mental health, and failed urban policy.

  “What she's saying is we'll just throw more money at the thing. We're always throwing money around. And Spencer Pratt should have been there in the back yelling, look around, lady.” (66:47)

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8. The Stakes: LA and America’s Crossroads (69:41–end)

Final Reflections

• Spencer Pratt describes personal sacrifice—“now [I] have to have 24 hour security on my kids”—to underline sincerity.

• Rubin frames the November runoff as a “last chance” not only for LA but a harbinger for major cities:

  “He has to win if New York will ever have a future, if Los Angeles will ever have a future…if all the people who do it for the right reasons don't win and enough people flee these cities, then it will just be over.” (70:09)

• Predicts a future where cities descend into dystopia unless political reordering occurs, with “most functional people” opting for rural life.

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Major Timestamps

• LA Election breakdown: 02:45–10:20
• Spencer Pratt speaks: 08:53, 13:04, 69:41
• Mail-in ballot criticisms: 20:00–22:00
• Steve Hilton gubernatorial segment: 29:46–34:11
• CBS/Bari Weiss/Scott Pelley drama: 36:29–46:39
• Marco Rubio Iran hearing: 53:56–61:16
• Obamacare/hospice fraud: 62:38–66:00
• Closing stakes for LA/NY: 69:41–end

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Notable Theme

• Anti-establishment, pro-“sanity” politics rising in deep-blue territories.
• Widespread skepticism of mail-in voting and election protocols.
• Critique of progressive governance as fueling decline and dysfunction.
• Narratives of redemption, and regular citizens “waking up” to failed policy.
• Media’s shifting landscape, with Bari Weiss’s CBS overhaul as emblematic.

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Tone & Style

The episode is raw, combative, deeply skeptical of establishment narratives—mixing gallows humor, insider anecdotes, and populist provocations. Rubin’s voice alternates between exasperated, hopeful, and impassioned, especially on issues of urban decay, election integrity, and the need for real reformers.

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Summary by Podcast Summarizer

Transcript

[Dave Rubin]

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How about that for a little alliteration for you? Got some decent results out of the mayoral election. Got some decent results out of the gubernatorial election. Then we'll follow up a little bit on this story that we covered yesterday, the Bari Weiss rebooting or resetting of 60 minutes. And I think it's. Although it's sort of like an insider media story, I think it gets to a Wider culture war point. And then Marco Rubio had just an absolutely all star session during a Senate hearing on Iran yesterday and really showed why he has been, you know, if you're ordering that top 10 list of people in Trump's cabinet or in Trump's orbit, that Rubio just is consistently number one, then a couple other things, but let's dive in and we'll start with the mayoral thing first. It was not officially decided. However, the results are pretty decent for that wackadoodle crazy town. This from NBC with 63.1% in. So this is basically where we're at right now. We'll talk about that kind of low percentage and why the mail in ballot thing may complicate it in just a second. But with 63% in, Karen Bass had about 35%, Spencer Pratt about 30.5%. And Nithya Raman, who's the, she's bananas, lefty, like she makes Karen Bass look like a moderate. She wanted like homeless people to smoke crack outside of elementary schools or something. She's at 22%. So basically, basically where we are at now, this again is with 63% of the votes in which the fact that these elections, the fact that virtually everybody on television yesterday was like, we're probably not going to have a result tonight, that in and of itself already shows you that we have a massive problem with our elections. Beyond the fact you don't have to have show IDs to vote in Los Angeles and more broadly California and all of that stuff. But short of anything completely insane happening with these remaining votes that are gonna come in mostly mail in ballots, short of pretty much them all going to Karen Bass to push her over 50%. Connor, put the percentages up again, cuz it's pretty freaking close. They're within about four and a half points short of that, this thing will go to a runoff, which means if she doesn't get 50%, which again they'd have to pull off something so fraudulent right in front of our eyes over the next three or four days that I think it would be almost too much to pull off. Right? You can pull off a certain amount and we'll all keep going about our lives. If they come back and they're like, yeah, 90% of the mail in ballots, the remaining 37% all went to her and now she got over 50, that might be a bit much even for the kind of brain dead average Democrat in Los Angeles. So that means because neither one of them will get to 50% in this, that there will be a runoff election. It's the top two candidates. So it will be Bass and it will be Spencer Pratt. And to me, there's a couple things here. First off, the longer the election goes. So now they're extending the election, right? Had someone got 50% yesterday, it would have been over. But now the longer this goes, and now it'll go till November. There's a couple things here. Number one, the longer it goes, it's better for Pratt because all he's doing is just saying basic common, decent sensibility stuff, right? The magic is the averageness in some sense, beyond the cool AI videos, Bass has to protect her record of the city. And all people have to do, as Spencer Pratt said on Gutfeld the other day, is look around. Go to Los Angeles and look around just like I did two, three weeks ago. And you will see the drugs and the homeless and everything everywhere. So the longer you extend it, I think that benefits him. But then I would say something that if you're not a Los Angeleno and you don't really care about that town, but you do care about the country. Here's the other part. The more that Spencer Pratt stays in the news, the more that we're talking about the disaster that a once great city of Los Angeles has turned into and that there's a solution, the better that plays for the midterms overall, right? This is where I am always talking about the narrative stuff and having this decent, not political guy out there because his house burned down and his parents house burned down, et cetera. I think that plays well just narrative wise for all of the other elections coming in November. And obviously the midterms are the key to the almost the future of America. Cuz if they go the wrong way, Trump is done and impeachment and all that stuff that we're always talking about. So I think there's a couple good things that happened here. It was virtually, I didn't know anyone that was saying Spencer Pratt was gonna outright win last night. So in some sense this is the best possible. This is the best possible update right now. And we'll see where it falls out. Let's get to some of the fallout. Specifically this from the New York Post. Spencer Pratt has confidently claimed he's already looking ahead to a November runoff as election results Tuesday night showed him comfortably in second place behind incumbent Mayor Karen Bass. She knows it's on. I hope she's ready. Pratt said on Tuesday. I literally could not be more excited. Pratt's bullish comments came as Bass advanced to the November Runoff. While Pratt held second place ahead of Socialists. City Council member Nithya Raman in third. While a large number of ballots remain to be counted, political observers increasingly view a Bass Pratt matchup as the most likely outcome. You know, just to. Even though I'm obviously happy about this, and I think it's good for not only people of la, but it's good for the country, as I just laid out, throw the numbers up one more time. Because, you know, think about it this way. Had this crazy Nithya Raman not run. So she, again, she's the mom dummy there. So she makes Bass look like, like, you know, like a moderate, even though Bass is a far lefty. But if you add up their two numbers, you know, she's basically bas. Because all the Nithya people would have voted for Bass, right? If Nithya wasn't running, all of those crazy people would have gone, obviously to Bass, not to Pratt, to Pratt. So in some sense, having the crazy Nithya Raman run actually was the best thing that could have happened here. Also, just a weird thing about numbers and elections, because that 20% of people would have voted and that would have got bass over the 50%, and we'd be right now going, well, Bass Reign of Terror continues. Here is Spencer Pratt talking about how Democrats. Because it is a hugely Democrat city. Democrats are behind him. Oh, and there might be a guy upstairs who's checking in on this thing. Spencer, do you see an uphill battle in the next five months?

[Spencer Pratt]

Absolutely not. I think the next five months is I'm gonna have time to build out this team, to show everybody the level of Democratic supporters that I have behind me, the heavy hitters that are in this room that are all behind me. And I think this idea that I don't represent Democrats and Republicans and Independents, anyone that's just a Los Angeles citizen that wants basic quality of life, I'll be able to show that in five months. Right now, the media likes to say, oh, he's this. I'm not that. I'm an Angelino who said, enough is enough. And I had to step up. I didn't know I'd be here tonight. But it's obviously God's plan and I'm going to go all the way and I'm gonna show everybody that I'm their mayor.

[Dave Rubin]

Guys, again, there's something exciting here. You don't have to care about la. You really don't. You know, I had six great years there and then two insane years under Covid, and I got the Hell out. And I. And I don't enjoy going back that much because of how disastrous it's become. And everybody that you talk to that lives there, all they talk about, I forgot what it was like my last two years there. Every time we'd have dinner with somebody, they'd be talking about how terrible it is or where they're thinking of moving or whatever. Then I come here to Florida, where everything's flourishing and everyone's happy. And then when I go back to la, even just a couple weeks ago, and I had dinner with two of my friends who were still there, and they were talking about how bad everything is. Now, the question is, as we now will have, let's say, five more months of this. Yes. I think the momentum goes towards him. All he has to keep doing is say, look around. What could Karen Bass do, though? And this will be the tricky part. We know that when the Democrats want to clean things up, they actually can, right? Think about when Xi Jinping, president of China, came to California, came to San Francisco. What was that about a year and a half ago? And suddenly Gavin Newsom got all of the homeless people out of San Francisco. We showed you videos on that. They were sprawling. Drug addicts, drug dens everywhere. And suddenly, for that weekend, they were all gone. And then the second the guy left, they all came back. So they are able to clean it up. So if you're Bass, I mean, this is cynical as hell, but if you're Bass, you. You could do a bunch of things to make LA appear to be much better for a little bit, and that would hurt. So there's a game afoot right now, and we should be very, very aware of that. But what I like about Pratt also is that, as I always say, I like people who aren't particularly political. And it's usually liberals who get mugged by reality and then in essence, become conservatives, or they just become sane. So I thought this was interesting. We're gonna show you two things here. One's from msnow and one's from cnn. Kind of just average people who you wouldn't necessarily think are hardcore Republicans who are voting for Pratt. Cam.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

Cam is at the very front of the line. Before you go inside, Cam, you got governor's race and a mayoral race here.

[Dave Rubin]

Have you thought about who you're going

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

to go for yet before you go in?

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, I think I'm going to vote for Matt Mahan for governor.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

The mayor of San Jose?

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, Mayor of San Jose. Like, his issues on housing, I think he'd be a Good.

[Marco Rubio]

Governor.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

Okay, and how about for mayor?

[Dave Rubin]

For mayor. I'm leaning Spencer Pratt right now. Are you? Yeah.

[Marco Rubio]

Okay.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

No kidding, man.

[Dave Rubin]

It's nice to meet you.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

All right, so there's.

[Dave Rubin]

What's the first? As a Democrat, are voting for Spencer Pratt? Yes, sir. Why is that? I do like his approach for the homelessness. As a person who used to be

[Marco Rubio]

homeless myself, I was rendered the services

[Dave Rubin]

that he's talking about. I was able to change my life 10 years sober with no alcohol and stuff like that.

[Marco Rubio]

So his approach is really good.

[Dave Rubin]

Okay, so obviously those are just two little anecdotal things, but the first guy he's voting for, Matt Mahan for governor. Now, he was the San Jose guy. We showed you one video of him. San Jose. He. San Jose mayor. He turned San Jose also into a crap factory, and he'll disappear. That doesn't matter. But that was just like, some average guy. This, you know, just average looking, whatever. Just like, yeah, Pratt, why not? And then the other guy was a drug addict and realizes that, oh, the things he was a homeless drug addict and the things that Karen Bass does are not the things that will help these people. If you take someone on super meth and yes, it is a thing, and you just put them in a bed, it's not going to help. Let's flashback a little bit, because this is from January. Oh, no, no. Well, we'll flashback a little bit. And this is Pratt referencing something that happened in January about how he kind of woke up and it kind of leads to where he's at right now.

[Spencer Pratt]

I'm gonna be the mayor that talks to the constituents. Like, I don't ever want to be in the office in city hall. I want to be the voice because that's all I got. People like, what's your experience? I'm a fighter for the truth now because you burned my life down. My house, my parents house, down all my neighbors. You put the Spencer, these people think they know is not who they know. January 7th made a new version of me, and I just want to be the mayor that fights for communities. And all the communities I go to, I hear the same thing. No matter, you know, people, oh, he's only here. I'm everywhere. A lot of communities don't want to post because of retaliation, because they're scared. Their city council member, who already is not listening to them or the mayor's like, oh, to be a successful mayor, I just need to be the voice of these people. Because if I get elected, it's the people that put me In I went against the full machine. And that's my whole duty is to be like, I'm going to be out here in these streets with the people.

[Dave Rubin]

So yeah, a conservative is just a liberal mug by reality. Or when your house burns down and you suddenly go, oh, I don't think these people care very much about me. But I like what he's saying there again, he's saying I'm not the most experienced. He's fully admitting it. He's not pretending to be anything. Right. He's saying, I'm not. But you mfers, you did this to me. And now I will be the voice of the people and I will go against the machine. And you guys really gotta understand. And these Democrat, when you think of these Democrat run cities, Louisiana and Chicago and Detroit and Portland and Seattle, where everything consistently gets worse and they're Democrat run for decades and somehow the Democrats remain, not only remain in power, but then they somehow trick people into thinking that it's the Republicans who caused the problems in the first place. And he's basically like, I will fight that machine. And I am telling you guys, as someone that lived in Los Angeles, that machine is so freaking corrupt, it's beyond imagination. What was it? I think Conor worked for me for maybe three days when he came, got him out of Chop. I moved this poor son of a bitch from CHOP in Seattle. He comes moves to la. And then we went to. What was that woman's name? Sheila. Cool. There was a woman who was sitting on the Los Angeles City Council board, this is in fall of 21. And they had a vote to decide whether they should close the outdoor restaurants again. As crazy as that was back in. No, it was fall of 21. Yeah. Oh, okay, got it, got it. But it was fall of 21 and she then was the 3, 2. She was the deciding vote to reclose outdoor restaurants. And then she literally went. Went out to eat at her favorite outdoor restaurant, an Italian restaurant in Santa Monica, after that, because it wasn't gonna kick in till midnight that night. Which if you felt that people were gonna get killed anyway, I illustrate that because that's how corrupt they are. They do everything in the quest for power. They wanna punish you while they never have to deal with the horrors that they push upon you. Kind of like Gavin Newsom literally having dinner at one of the most expensive restaurants in all of the country, French Laundry with lobbyists indoors, not we masks while he was shutting everything else down. So the point that Pratt is making here, and I'm telling you guys, I think this is really good for the midterms. And you know, I am not. Everyone is freaking out about the midterms and I'm not as freaked out. I could be wrong, but I just think the radicalness of the left, the commie stuff. Now in, what was it in Michigan, they voted in some guy who's like part Al Qaeda. Yeah. Literally. We can get some info on that. Get me involved on the Al Qaeda guy who's going to be. Yeah, like the more we shine light on that and the more that now this election gets a spotlight as we lead into the midterms and with the 250 of America coming in July, I think it's good. So here's Schurmichael Singleton, who again will be on the show this Friday. Over on cnn, he subs in for Scott Jennings. Sometimes when Scott's like, I can only deal with so much of these people every day, they bring on Schurmichael to clean it up. Here he is explaining a bit more about what Spencer's doing. It's not magic if you think about it.

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[Harvard Professor Michael Sandel (quoted)]

We are still in the era against the establishment. It's as Harvard professor Michael Sandel said, this push against these technocratic elites, the individuals who lead, who are well educated, a ton of experience. And yet despite that experience, the broader public is saying we're rejecting that because the tangibles are no longer tangible for us. It reminds me of Bill Clinton when he gave his speech at the DNC convention in 2024 and he spoke about the average layperson. And he said people are coming to political leaders saying we have problems, solve them. And for many voters in la, I presume that they do not feel the incumbent mayor has resolved many of their issues. And so you see someone who is non traditional, doesn't have a lot of experience, go from 0% to 22% while the city mayor has been flatlined for the most part. This is unnormal in most environments.

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, I think that's right. I would actually add a slight amendment or addendum to that, which is it's not that most people are saying solve our problems a lot of people are saying that solve our problems. And I think some of that's a confusion about what government's supposed to do, because government really shouldn't solve your problems. It should get out of your way. I would say most people should. Your relationship with the government should be that the government should be sort of pushed as far away from you as possible, except for the basic service. This is why I've always. I never really considered myself a hardcore libertarian, even though I have a bunch of libertarian means, because I do believe in some slim, trim, sensible government. So it's not that you want the government to do for you, but what you wouldn't want the government to do is make things worse, right? So the government of Los Angeles, of California, has made things worse, whether it's the drug stuff or the homeless stuff or the economic conditions, high taxes, high regulation, pushing business out. So that's like, those are two different things. One, I think, is a mistaken approach. Please help me. Please help me, please help me. Government's not good at that, right? Nine scariest words. Ronald Reagan. You know it. And then the other version, the more healthy version, and the version that our country is founded upon is, how about a government that's slim and trim and small, and that all you do is you elect people who could keep it in the box that it's supposed to be in. So they're not really there to help you, but they're not there to make it worse. And if they do make it worse, you don't reelect them, which unfortunately has been happening in these blue cities and states for a long time. Here is video of Steve Kornacki over on msnbc. And they love these dorky guys at big screens. And here he is explaining that the mail in ballots could still help Karen Bass, but again, it would be. I just can't imagine how they could suddenly be like, yeah, we got the remaining 37%, 95% of it went to Karen Bass, and we're not gonna go to a runoff. But here's Kornaki.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

Remember, the final piece of the puzzle that we won't know tonight, right. Is the late arriving vote by mail. And we're talking about probably like a third of the vote in Los Angeles. We're probably not gonna be getting until tomorrow and maybe days to come after tomorrow. The mail can still come in after election Day. And there's indications, and there's certainly a ton of precedent here, that that late arriving vote by mail is going to be significantly more Democratic friendly than all of the other vote, meaning that that would be good news for Bass. That would be good news for Raman. If she's gonna come out of tonight behind Pratt, it's a huge if. But if she's gonna come out of tonight behind Pratt, well, it's not a huge if at this point. She would then have that opportunity if she's close enough to catch him with that.

[Dave Rubin]

Okay, so for those of you that were really paying attention to that, he was doing that earlier in the evening than what we reported on. So when he was doing that right there, it was only 39. And subsequently, Bass numbers went down, Pratt's numbers went up. But that's not why I'm showing it to you. Why I'm showing it to you is you could see that they're just kind of like seeding the ground. Like, yes, Democrats do get an awful lot of mail in ballots, and we'll never know. And it could come in tomorrow or the next day or the day after that, and who knows? Again, they would have to pull off something that would be so obviously fraudulent. Right. Because now 63% are in, so that means the remaining 37%. And she'd have to win 90 something percent of that. That seems a bit bridge too far kind of stuff for me. But also the idea that, okay, fine, if you want to make some argument for mail in ballots, in very specific cases, you can. Right? There are people that are in old age homes that have medical conditions. Okay, you want to have some very slim rules to allow for that, fine. But once you give mail in ballots to everybody, you're telling the system, man, bake in the fraud. Bake in the fraud. When I lived in LA in the last election that I voted in, which was the recall of Gavin Newsom, and I was obviously campaigning with Larry Elder, we got the mail in at my house, and I was like, there's no way in high hell I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna go to the polling station. And I did go there, and as I've told you the story many times, they wouldn't even look. I pulled out my id, and they wouldn't. They, like, kind of freaked out. They don't wanna know your id. They wanted to know your name and address. So you could literally be anyone. You know your neighbor's name, you know your neighbor's address. Congratulations, you're your neighbor. So they want a certain amount of fraud built in. And the other reason that you would know that is why is it that mail in ballots are allowed to come in days after the election at the Very least you would say the mail in ballots all have to be in by, I don't know, the day before the election. Perhaps they have to be postmarked and in the day before so that on election day we can have results for election day. But they don't want that. By the way, I mentioned the al Qaeda guy who's now going to be over there in Michigan. Yeah. Real quick. Adam Hammawi served as a translator for Omar Abdelra, a radical cleric convicted in the 1993 World Trade center bombing before he donated to Benevolence International foundation which has been designated as funding front. As a funding front for Al Qaeda. And congratulations, there he is. Sorry I kept saying Michigan because they've got a whole bunch of jihadis over there. It's New Jersey. So where's Tony Soprano when you need him? Like, oh my God, like, so congratulations, Jersey, you got an al Qaeda guy. Like, good luck with all of that. Caitlyn Jenner, who I usually come to for cracked political analysis, was on Fox right before me Yesterday on Martha MacCallum and her argument, really. And by the way, when I say her with Caitlin, Caitlin is a biological male. That is true. Caitlin I've met a few times and has treated me with respect and I will treat her with respect. That's not denying biological reality. I know this is a bit of a sidebar for the clip, but that's how I've decided to treat this, this trans issue. Right. Like if you treat me with respect, I'll treat you with respect. It's not denying what I think reality is. Caitlin is still a biological man but has made a choice as an adult to live a certain way. And respect is a two way street. So a bit of a sidebar, but I'm just mentioning that. But here's Caitlyn Jenner, who is basically been in Los Angeles for about four decades, knows Spencer Pratt quite well. I think one of the Caitlin's kids was on a reality show with Spencer. I wasn't one of the kids on the Hills, I think with Spencer. And here she is talking about how the machine of L. A likely will never let Spencer become mayor. Everybody gets mailed out a ballot to send in. It's been going on for, I don't know, three weeks now. I see on TV thousands of these ballots that they're just firm. You're in through so open for fraud. I just don't feel like the Democrat machine here in, in Los Angeles can ever let Spencer Pratt become mayor. I mean it would destroy them. So that for me is a big problem that we have here in California. Yeah. So that gets to this, this sort of baked in fraud or feeling that there could be fraud. I'll give you one other anecdotal thing. I know somebody that's lived in Florida for two years or so that left la, that is a Florida resident, Florida card carrying, you know, driver's license, resident of Florida who got a mail in ballot back to their old place in Los Angeles. Think how many, think how many people. We know over a million people have left Cali. I don't know exactly the numbers of how many have fled Los Angeles specifically, but I'm sure it's a high percentage of the people who have overall left California. And how many of those people left and then still got a mail in ballot at a house that they're not at anymore or an apartment that they rent or something else. So like there's just so much stuff in there. But again, I would say to put a pin in this for now. This is good. Karen Bass did not win. That's the most important thing. And now there will be months where we will keep talk. You don't have to care about la, you don't have to care about la, but you should care about the country. And the more of these cities we just give up, but we've lost New York for now at least. You don't want to just keep giving up all of these cities. And for as many of these blue cities that are long gone, Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, et cetera, maybe we'll get one back. And that's a win, right? It's a chess game and that's a win. So that is good. Let's talk about Relief Factor for a second, guys. You know I love relief factor. It's 100% drug free research based formula designed to support your body's healthy response to everyday aches and pains. Whether it's sore muscles after exercise, stiffness from aging, or the wear and tear of daily life. Relief Factor was created to help you stay active and keep doing the things that you love. It features ingredients like revezitrol, omega 3 turmeric, icarin, black pepper, and they all work together to support muscle and joint comfort. 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But California had a gubernatorial race and in this case, as it stands right now, the Republican hot diggity dam with a British accent right out of Downton Abbey, he's leading. Yeah. This from the New York Times. Steve Hilton, as of 58% of the votes in Associated Press has about 28%, about 1.3 mil. A little more than that. Becerra, the Democrat, 25%. Steyer, the billionaire who the Democrat socialists endorsed and said that they would behead him if he doesn't behave, he got 20%. And Chad Bianco, other Republican, got 11%. This is really, really good. So this will go to a runoff too. And it looks like because it's two guys that will be in the runoff, it will be Hilton versus the Democrat. Becerra, Hilton's a good dude. I've done his show a couple times when he had a show on Fox for a while. He doesn't come off as like Mr. California cuz he's got that British accent. But he loves America, he loves freedom. He's a really good communicator. Callie's done some weird things for governor before, right? Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor. So maybe something, maybe something's actually brewing. Maybe these progressive mfers pushed enough of us to the edge of oblivion that even in communist California, they're pushing back. So let's go back to these dorks with a screen. Here's Steve Kornacki talking about mail in ballots to defeat Steve Hilton.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

Or it's just going to have to be such a flood of Democratic ballots coming in after, you know, being tabulated after election night or into the wee hours this morning that would just lift both Democrats over Hilton. That's increasing what it needs to be for Steyer.

[Dave Rubin]

Hey, Kornacki, when you're not licking that screen, when you're off camera, might I offer you something? Why don't you guys do a segment on why is it that all of these mail in ballots, you guys always talk about mail in ballots and you're like, yeah, they all go to Democrats. How about you analyze that a little bit? Why would that be? Why is it that in Democrat run states, mail in ballots which come after election day, all seem to go for Democrats? Is that. Are you curious about that at all or you just pump numbers, you just crunch numbers all day long. So, you know, you were kind of hoping there, right? It's cnn. You want Democrats to win, that somehow there'll be enough to stop this guy. But it's going to a runoff. And here is Steve Hilton talking about how excited he is to continue this

[Steve Hilton]

operation as a proud American, someone who loves this country so much. This is my first time running for office. And when we just passed that number of 1 million people and it's now over a million voting for me, 1 million Californians and rising, putting their hopes in me to bring change and put our state back on track. It's an unbelievable honor, something I absolutely take so seriously. I won't let people down. We've got to turn this state around. And I think tonight looks like the first step down that very important road.

[Dave Rubin]

And I'm going to have me tea and crumpets and the whole thing's bollocks if I don't win and blah, blah, blah, like, but how great. Here is a guy who, with that accent, who comes to California, becomes a citizen, sees the craziness and now wants to restore California crazy commie Cali back into something that has some semblance of America. That's what America is all about. And by the way, he's an immigrant. Why aren't the Democrats supporting the. Oh, right, he's not illegal. So they don't count him as an immigrant. And British people, and he's white. It's an awful lot with this guy. Here's Hilton referencing a bit from Arnold Schwarzenegger, who I mentioned a moment ago, this really nice moment I remember when

[Steve Hilton]

I became an American citizen, that certain governor, you may remember, he said, congratulations, he made a very nice video. He said, but Steve, you got to

[Dave Rubin]

get the wrong jacket.

[Steve Hilton]

You got the wrong jacket. And I made a pledge that day that one day I would get the jacket that Arnold told me to get on my road to being governor of California. And here it is. I am a Proud American.

[Dave Rubin]

There's the jacket.

[Steve Hilton]

And I am a very proud Californian. A very proud, A very proud Californian tonight.

[Dave Rubin]

It's nice, guys. And you know, for contrast, try to imagine a Democrat going on up there and being like, and look, I have the American boo. His where are the tomatoes? And I've got a California. Well, we sort of like it because it's communist. We could maybe keep it communist. Like, that's the difference between the parties. And by the way, that difference will continue to be seen, you know, on Memorial Day. We mentioned when we came back on Tuesday after that, how many Democrats didn't even acknowledge Memorial Day on Twitter. Well, you'll see what happens around July 4th as Republicans are celebrating and Democrats won't know. How would you celebrate this country if you're a modern Democrat, if you're a progressive, how would you celebrate? How would you walk around with the American flag inside your jacket? How could you? This place was founded on slavery. We have systemic racism. Capitalism is bad. And Donald Trump's and the fascists, you can't. And the more they do that, the more it will push sane people to us. And here's one more from Steve Hilton on, well, being a sane person, my

[Steve Hilton]

mission is very straightforward. Cut your costs, help your business, fix our schools. That's the foundation of everything else. We got to get our economy back on track. Right now in California, we have the highest unemployment rate in the whole country, the highest poverty rate in America, tied with Louisiana. And Chief Executive magazine ranks California as 50th out of 50 for business climate. We got the highest cost of living, highest gas prices, highest housing costs. That's why hundreds of thousands of people are leaving. And even more worryingly, for our long term future, so many businesses are leaving. So we're not generating the wealth and the opportunity.

[Dave Rubin]

Isn't it interesting what he just said there a moment ago? Remember we were talking about how there's a certain set of people that say, government, fix this problem for me. Give me this, blah, blah, blah. And the government's not good at that. Everything. The prescriptions that he offered there, get the government out of the way, create good economic conditions, less regulation, make sure businesses can stay. Because when businesses stay, people have jobs. It's not rocket science. So it is quite spectacular that a white British immigrant is potentially the next governor of California. I mean, I'm telling you guys, there's a lot of good news today in terms of speaking of good news and things being reordered. We covered it yesterday, but Barry Weiss took over CBS news about a year ago now and she is rearranging the deck and you might say. Or she's rearranging the chairs on the deck and you might say, well it's the Titanic and it's sinking anyway, so what's the difference? But she's trying to turn it from something that has been basically part and parcel of the Democrat party into something that is more, or let's say even keeled. Certain people are not that thrilled with her. We'll cover that in just a second. But first, Shopify. Starting something new can be intimidating. There's always that voice asking, what if this fails? What if nobody notices? That's why having the right tools matters. And that's where Shopify comes in. Shopify powers millions of businesses around the world, giving entrepreneurs everything they need in one place. Online stores, payments, inventory analytics, marketing tools and more. Shopify also helps businesses grow with built in email and social campaigns, AI tools for product descriptions and photos and shop pay. One of the best converting checkouts available. Plus there's 24. 7 support whenever help is needed. Turn those what ifs into success with Shopify today. Sign up for your $1 per month [e-mail] Rubin that's shopify.com Rubin hey there,

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Wayfair Every style, every home. Alright, so as I always talk about it, look, mainstream media has failed us in so many ways. And yet I still as someone that doing this thing online and has been doing it for a long time, I still think there is a use for mainstream media. And if mainstream media was to completely implode, I think it would actually be dangerous because we at least need something to bounce off of. And that's really the purpose that mainstream media serves at this moment. So all of the networks obviously went crazy, far left and anti trump and all of that stuff. Everyone knows that. And finally about a year ago CBS News was like, you know what? This ain't working. Like maybe they thought it was working ideologically but numbers wise and financially, they're still a company, they're a corporation, they want to make money. And they were like, boy, we're purging viewers. We're doing the same thing as NBC, we're doing the same thing as abc, et cetera. Maybe let's try something different. So they brought in Bari Weiss, who as you know, she's just like a nominal liberal, sane liberal, who you might agree or disagree with, but she's not a wackadoodle progressive. She brought it in, she's cleaning it up. And she has now started to fire some people at 60 Minutes which has been a major outlet of propaganda for years. Well, as an update to yesterday's story, they now fired probably the biggest name who's still remaining at CBS News. Cuz they fired some correspondents, but now they fired Scott Pelley, who you likely know. Here's NBC talking about Pelly blasting Barry Weiss. Then we'll get you caught up.

[Scott Pelley]

According to a source in the room, Scott Pelley said that editor in Chief Bari Weiss was brought in to kill 60 minutes and is doing exactly that. Peli also blasted the show's new EP executive producer telling Nick Bilton he thinks he has slender qualifications for the job. Peli and reps for CBS did not immediately return our request for comment. But that says a bunch of networks journalists wrote a letter to Paramount's CEO today urging him to send a clear message to staff, viewers and the public that David Ellison respects editorial independence and press freedom.

[Dave Rubin]

Okay, so Scott Pelley, who said that Bari Weiss, who's his boss, is trying to murder 60 Minutes and that the new guy she brought in to run the show, this built in guy, and we'll have more on him in just a second, is trying to kill it. Well, they were not happy with those remarks and they fired him. And of course this would happen in any order organization if Joseph over here went to Phoenix and said, you know, Dave's really killing the Rubin Report, he's murdering this thing. He doesn't know what he's doing, he would not have a job anymore. Just FYI, you know, that's how it is. Someone's the boss and if you say that the boss is ruining the product, the boss might go. The boss who by the way was brought in to change the direction. She's not doing anything out of the blue. She was brought in to change the direction of their newsroom and that's what she's doing. Pelly doesn't like it and well, he's walking. Well, he's not walking away. He's getting the boot for going after his boss. You know, if you're going to sit in a room and tell people, boy, this guy's destroying the thing that I work for, and they're the boss, the boss might take you out. That's like basic human interaction stuff. We'll get to more on the specifics of the firing in just a second, but here's Scott Pelley's. What is this? Maybe two weeks ago commencement address at Wake Forest University. Fear, fear, fear. He's a fear monger. Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. Play the clip. But in this moment, this moment, this morning, our sacred rule of law is under attack. Journalism is under attack. Universities are under attack. Freedom of speech is under attack. And insidious fear is reaching through our schools, our businesses, our homes, and into our private thoughts. The fear to speak in America. God, Orwell would have a field day with these guys. Journalism is under attack. Yes. Well, that's because you guys turned 60 minutes and CNN and the Washington Post and the New York Times, etcetera, Into lefty outlets, into an arm of the Democrat Party. We showed you the clip. I won't have to show it again today, but we've shown it a million times of Trump on 60 Minutes explaining Russia, Russia hoax explanation, explaining Hunter Biden laptop to what's her name? Who was the woman? 60 Minutes woman, Leslie Stahl. No, we don't do that here. We're journalists here. Well, you were wrong about everything and Trump was right about everything. So you guys have a political agenda. So, yes, journalism is under attack. It's because of you. Universities are under attack. Well, yeah, they're under attack from socialists and jihadists who put on terrorists masks and stop students from going to class and who take over complete departments to teach young people to hate America and things of that nature. Right. And the idea that people are afraid to speak. Well, who's usually afraid to speak? It's sane people. Because if you say that a man is a man and a woman's a woman, it's people like you who will run a 60 Minutes episode explaining that trans is real. Like, you guys have done this. You. You have done all of this. But even all of that aside, at the end of the day, you basically can't say your boss is a f ing ff. You just can't. That's just not how it's gonna work. And here is. Well, Barry's the new boss of the network, but the new executive producer of the show is this Nick Bilton guy. New ep. And here he is. I meant what I said in my letter last week to the 60 Minutes team. Joining 60 Minutes is the honor of my career, and I'm grateful to be working alongside people, people who have contributed to the most important television journalism brand this country has ever produced. While I'm new to 60 Minutes, I've devoted my career to investigative journalism and storytelling. I started this job excited to collaborate and to benefit from the wisdom and experience of 60 Minutes veterans, with you among them. For that reason, one of the first things I did in my new role was to call you to talk and invite you to dinner. It is a profound disappointment that you rejected the overture and closed and chose to ambush instead. Obviously, he's talking about Scott Pelley here. Yesterday you hijacked my first meeting with staff to disparage me, my qualifications and my intentions with remarkable incivility and contempt. I welcome a diversity of viewpoints and respectful debate among them, among the team. But this was nothing of the sort. Yesterday's performative display of hostility, enacted in front of the staff instead of in a civil private conversation, demonstrated that you have no interest in contributing to the future success of the show or approaching my new tenure with a mind open to collaboration and progress. I am here to deliver first in class news programming, not to make headlines about newsroom drama. I am eager to work alongside those who share this goal. Despite yesterday's misconduct, I had hoped that in sitting down with you today, we could figure out a path forward together. You made clear that you are not interested in such a path. Your antipathy to the future of the show has come through loud and clear, and I hope heard you. I therefore write on behalf of CBS News to inform you that your employment with CBS is terminated for cause, effective immediately. Enclosed is your formal termination letter. Sincerely, Nick Bilton, executive producer, 60 Minutes. So, again, putting aside the political part of this, if you go off on your boss, if a boss is brought in, new boss, old boss, doesn't matter. Conference room, room. You're at a conference room and there's a dozen people and you're belittling your boss or you're insulting your boss, or you're insulting your boss's boss, you likely are going to be fired, particularly if you do it in a performative way. That's not to say you can't have frustrations with your boss. Sure, no one in this room has ever had a problem with me, but there could be other work situations. Right, that's confirmed. Yeah, there could be other work situations where you might have a problem with your boss. And there is a way to sit down with your boss. As a matter of fact, joking aside for a second, I always tell Phoenix, like you guys should argue with me. If you think I am doing something wrong, bring it to me. Bring to me any philosophical issue that is on your mind. If I say something that you don't think is right or true, bring it to me. And I always say when it comes to the content of the show, I'll win some and you'll win some. But I will never hold it against someone for bringing me a good faith argument. If I found out people were secretly behind my back, you know, saying horrible things about me, then you have a problem. But that's what this really is about. But now the whole mainstream media is up in arms over all of this. We've got a bit more here from Jeremy Barr, who's a reporter at the Guardian. New Bari Weiss just addressed the termination of Scott Pelley on the network's morning call just now. And here's Bari Weiss's comment. I know I speak for myself and I hope I speak for everyone here when I say that I'm only interested in working in a newsroom that is built on trust and mutual respect. We cannot do our work without it. That foundation was broken on Monday, and despite our attempts to engage with Scott Pelley and to find a way back, unfortunately we weren't able to do so and we had to part ways. We did not want that to happen, but that's the path that he chose. That unfortunate outcome does not discount from the amazing contributions and work that Scott Pelley has done for CBS and for 60 minutes over the course of his career. She then listed some of the stories from this past season and called them unforgettable stories. So look, she's the boss. She's running the newsroom. The guy she just hired, Nick Bilton, is the executive producer of the show. And if Scott Pelley doesn't like it, he obviously dealt with it in a highly immature way. Might I also offer that the chair is the thing that's worth something on these mainstream media things? Meaning a certain nobody's like looking for cable news anymore. The people that are watching cable news, they've been watching it forever. So you just turn on CBS News in the morning, or you turn on NBC Nightly News, or it's Sunday night and you just turn on cbs. Meaning more people are fleeing from those things, but the people who are there are just turning. It's like habit in some sense. So the cast of characters who they have on the show. They're just, they're completely interchangeable. Right. It just doesn't matter. So if Abby Phillip at cnn, if she was fired tomorrow and they just brought on someone else, it doesn't change the ratings. People just tune into that and they like it or they don't like it. Scott Pelley, what I would say to Scott Pelley right now is if you think you're so, you've been paid millions. I don't know that his salary is out, but it's millions of dollars a year. You've been paying millions and millions of dollars a year. There are all sorts of us online who do these shows independently. We do them from our garage. If you are great at this, you no doubt have tons of connections, access to money and everything else. Let's find out how great you are. But you were just a chair there. That's really the truth. And you are not indispensable. And by being basically a dick to your boss, I think they prove that to you. Here's a bit more. Here's a statement from Scott There has never been anything in America like 60 Minutes. The Sunday tradition is the most successful program of any kind in history. For more than a decade, its innovative growth on every major online platform has extended its reach to countless millions around the world. This spring, at the end of our 58th season, 60 Minutes grew rapidly with an unheard of 9% jump in viewers on CBS, 60 has been the number one program in America for decades because our beloved audience finds integrity, quality and humanity in our stories. When stewardship of the program passed to my colleagues and me, our responsibility was to expand energetically into a new age of media technology while preserving the values our audience expects. Now the new owner of our network is casting this legend aside, apparently to curry a moment of favor with the Trump administration. Administration. God, the waste is heartbreaking. Last month, 60 Minutes lost its DNA when our entire senior leadership and two of our best on air correspondents were cruelly fired without cause. Good people were silenced because they stood up for our audience. They stood up to fairness against the forces of political bias. They stood up for professionalism against chaos. For my part, new management has instructed me to inject falsehoods and bias into a politically sensitive story. I've been told to include assertions that are unverified. To date, in every case, I have managed to ignore these instructions or refuse them. Recently, politicians have been invited to choose correspondence for interviews on the broadcast. Giving politicians control over 60 minute interviews is not how this is done. Finally, incompetence and unprofessionalism in the new management have wrecked havoc. In a case involving one of my stories, the entire program came within 19 minutes of not getting on the air at all. At 60 Minutes, we have fought harder than anyone knows to save the program that became an American icon. We owed that to our millions of viewers. I am deeply moved by the thousands of wishes we have received to keep up the good fight. Most of the men and women at CBS News are still in that fight. But now the collapse of values at the top has become untenable. The leadership of 60 Minutes is no longer recognizable. The principles I hold dear are gone. And so I must leave as well. I depart after 37 years at CBS with one emotion I heart brimming with gratitude for the men and women of CBS News who encouraged and enriched my work, very often at the risk of their own lives. I pray for a day when those people and their ideals are honored again, when sanity, competence and courage return. SCOTT pelley so look, that statement, I don't know how much of it is true, actually. He's claiming that they tried to inject certain things that weren't true into stories. He will be able to talk about all of that, I suppose, now that he'll be independent or if he's unemployed or if he's or whatever else. But basically what's happening here, I think that the real bumper sticker on what's happening here is that CBS chose to go another way. It's boring to talk about the partisanship of mainstream media at this point. They became hyper partisan. The Lesley Stahl Trump interview is the height of all of that we know about mainstream media, editing stories out, very fine people hoax, cutting sentences that Trump said and all of these things. So no one is just, you're not just worth millions of dollars. You're just not right. Okay. You worked there for 37 years and I have no doubt that much of the work you did was good. SCOTT PELLEY but okay, take what I would say is take this opportunity now to build something, build something on your own and see if it is worth anything. See if people tune in or if it was just the chair. But again, that story, although it's a little media insider, I think these narrative things are important. And maybe if you CBS orients back towards something a little bit centrist, maybe NBC, abc, maybe cnn, et cetera, will get the queue and then maybe we would have something decent again as it comes to the landscape of journalism. All right, we'll pause that there. Talk about Chef IQ for a minute and then we'll get to this. Absolutely spectacular. Just Rubio put on a show at this Senate hearing yesterday. Just a second. We'll get to that. Father's Day is coming, guys. And if you're looking for GIF that Dad will actually use, check out the Chef IQ Sense. It's a smart thermometer that connects to your phone and takes the guesswork out of cooking. It tracks your cooking in real time and lets you know exactly when to flip, rest, and serve, whether it's steak, chicken, burgers, or fish. The Chef IQ Sense works on the grill, in the oven, or even the smoker. I have used it there. No more guessing. If dinner is done, just check your phone and you will know. It's like having a cooking coach right in your pocket. And it's something dad will use every week. Right now, Chef IQ is running a Father's Day sale with 40% off sitewide. Go to chefiq.com and use promo code RUBIN. That's chefiq.com, promo code REUBEN for 40% off sitewide. Okay, so there was a Senate hearing on the Iran situation. As you know, we had a 40 day, roughly 40 day military conflict. Took out their Navy, took out their Air Force, had total air superiority, blah, blah. Took out much of the military leadership. The Ayatollah, that guy was pretty influential. He's gone, too. They got the new Ayatollah, who I think is missing a leg and is gay. It's a lot over there, but we are in a bit of a stalemate as these ceasefire negotiations go back and forth. And the Strait of Hormuz seems to be the main part of this, that everything is hung up on. So here are the. This is just. We're going to show you, I think, four videos here. And this is just. It does not matter what you think about whether we should have done this war or. Or how the war is going or anything else. I want you to think about what Marco Rubio is doing here. He is the Secretary of State. It is his job to explain the policy of America and to, I would say, very specifically in a Trump administration, to explain more granularly the big things that Trump says. Right? Trump. I always say Trump's good at the really bumper sticker stuff. And the reason Rubio comes off so great these days is he. Then he just knows everything. And you can see. See it. And he doesn't have to look down and read it. He doesn't have to read statements or anything else. He knows what's going On. So here is Cory Booker implying that we are the ones begging to get a deal right now, despite the fact that Iran is losing $500 million a day. Booker doesn't say that. But they're losing $500 million a day in revenue. That is a fact. But here he is trying to imply that we are begging for a deal. Here's Marco's response. You're the strongest nation on the planet earth and we're in a stalemate with Iran, and now we're begging to get back into a deal that you all trashed in the first place.

[Marco Rubio]

There's no one begging.

[Dave Rubin]

Clearly. This is a. Senator Booker. Senator Booker, your time's up.

[Spencer Pratt]

Rubio, since he's.

[Marco Rubio]

I do want to address some of these points because they go to the heart of the matter. No one's begging for anything here. The Iranians might be begging because their economy is losing hundreds of millions of dollars a day that they are losing. Understand, Iran had street protests going on before all of this started. All of those factors, economic factors in Iran are far worse today than they were six months ago when those protests were happening. They have hyperinflation. Their currency is completely devalued. They're struggling to make payroll for their government workers. Iran is in a very serious situation. And if it was up to the political class there, and I understand everybody there is sort of radical in some way, but if it was up to the people that actually, like, go to elections and wear the suits and you see on tv, they'd probably make a deal tomorrow. The issue they're facing is that the supreme Leader in the IRGC corps are a little bit more immune from those pressures until they can be convinced otherwise.

[Dave Rubin]

Okay, so again, this is just a masterclass by Rubio. There he is calmly explaining detailed things and that we aren't begging right now. Look, does Trump want a clean win here? Does Trump want the Iranians to right now come back with whatever his last offer is and be like, you know what? We can't take this anymore. We'll sign. Of course, of course. But that doesn't mean we're losing. We are in negotiations. And as Rubio points out, they're now in hyperinflation. They're sitting on oil that they cannot get out. It's bad for China. Which is why even when Trump went to China two weeks ago, China was like, hey, anything we can do to help this Iran thing along, Cuz they get oil from there. So it's so Booker. It's just. It's the usual kind of bloviating nonsense. And speaking of bloviating nonsense, here's Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

But the strait is straight, is closed because of our decision to invade Iran. This is a consequence of our military actions. So I guess I'm not interested in litigating that question. We all know why the strait is closed because you took military action against Iran. And we knew ahead of time that that would be their likely response. The question is, how are we going to get it reopened?

[Marco Rubio]

First thing that is a predicate to anything else happening. The straits have to be reopened. So the way to think about it is this. If Iran wants to be able to move its oil again through the Strait, they will have to reopen the straits. If they refuse to do so, then we have other options available to us. But we would prefer to negotiate the opening of this.

[Dave Rubin]

Yes, of course we would prefer to negotiate. That's what a ceasefire does, and that's what negotiations are about. Iran is going to have their position again. They're the ones, no pun intended, who are over a barrel here. They're the ones, ones whose economy is in shambles. They're the ones whose military has been completely blown apart. We're doing just fine. We are. I know there's a certain set of Pannikins that think that we're not, but we're doing just fine. And we are trying to figure out the safest way to not only reopen the straits, I mean, in essence, it's closed because of us, because we're the one with the blockade. Iran is threatening to occasionally shoot some ships, and that is keeping some ships out. Right. The average guy doesn't want to take his tanker through the Strait of Hormuz knowing that Iran might shoot you. But we are the ones that are in control here. Here's Rubio on that means.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

Tell us about the negotiations. What do you need from them in order to get the strait reopened? We need the strait reopened tomorrow.

[Marco Rubio]

Well, what needs to happen is very simple. They need to announce that they will no longer fire on commercial ships that are going through or threaten to fire on ships, because in many cases, ships just won't move. They won't go, not because they got fired on, but because of the risk of being fired upon. And so they have to announce very clearly the straits are now open. We're not charging a toll. We will help remove the mines that they put in there, and they will not fire on ships.

[Cam (interviewer or audience member)]

But the President.

[Dave Rubin]

All right, so Rubio's being, again, pretty damn clear. He doesn't have to look at his notes. We just checked the numbers. America gets about 2% of its energy, meaning 2% of America's energy goes through the Strait of Hormuz. Let's also keep in mind that we now have access to Venezuelan oil. We're digging and drilling again, et cetera, et cetera. So we are not hung up. It's not like we're in some sort of energy crisis. That's not to say that gas prices can't go up. They went up for a little bit. They're largely down now. And I suspect as we roll into the midterms, they will go down again. Right? Trump will make sure that happens. He doesn't want high gas prices as we're rolling into the midterms. But when you're talking about the world's energy and who's again, over the barrel here, it's China, who's losing about 13% of what they get, and it's Iran who. They can't do anything. If you just have a whole bunch of oil and you export it, well, you got to shut off your pumps. You've got to figure out how to store it. It's useless to you at some point if you can't sell it. That is the point. That's what's giving us leverage right now. Here's Rubio with a bit more.

[Marco Rubio]

The only reason there's a blockade, the only reason why there's a US Blockade is because Iran has closed. They're firing on commercial ships and they've mined large segments of Hormuz, international waters. And so the blockade is only against Iranian ships. And it's very simple. The notion is if no one's ships are going to get out, then Iran's ships aren't going to get out either. We can't live in a world in which they get to close the straits and tell everybody, pay us a toll or we'll blow you up. But their ships get to go out unfettered. So that's the reason why there's a blockade.

[Dave Rubin]

Right. So again, who. Who. If this just. Let's say it's three months from now and everything stays exactly as it is, who is hurt more? Is it the United States that's maintaining a military blockade? It's not very dangerous for us to do that. Right, because their military is so banged up? Or is it Iran that, as Rubio pointed out, is going through hyperinflation right now, that has a populace that's really pissed that their own government is not paying some of their people and that they're losing $500 million a day to their economy. It's obviously them. So even though everyone wants this wrapped up, I want it wrapped up. As I just pointed out, Trump would love this thing wrapped up. Everyone wants it, but, you know, things. It's this weird thing with the Internet. Everything moves so fast now that if you do anything and it doesn't get the resolution that people want like this, then everyone starts freaking out. Maybe everyone just needs to take a breath every now and again instead of doom scrolling everything. That's where the panic and idea came from. Here's one more with Rubio just trying to clean up some of the Just utter. Like, listen to this ridiculous woman. This is Jackie Rosen from Nevada, Senator. And just Rubio just cleans up a whole bunch of nonsense here. So, Mr. Secretary, Congress represents the American people. We have the power to confirm who represents America abroad. We confirmed you to be our Secretary of State. We confirmed you to be in the negotiations that are happening. And it's just unthinkable to me that you are missing high stakes negotiations or that you're not involved.

[Marco Rubio]

Number one, the Vice President of the United States was there, and he wasn't confirmed by us any, was elected by the American people. Okay? He is the second in line of the Presidency of the United States. He was President. President. Mr. Witkoff is the President's envoy for negotiation, for peace deals. Mr. Kushner is a private citizen that serves as an advisor on these functions. They were the team that we sent to Pakistan. I was not at a party. Where I was is next to the President because in the midst of those negotiations, I was in communications with them. And in fact, I think there is media reporting from that evening on how multiple occasions I went into a back room, I came back out and spoke to the President and was constantly updating him. On that evening, I spoke to Mr. Kushner and our negotiating team and Mr. Woodcoff on at least six occasions, including twice on a secure line from the phone they had access to over there. You don't know what you're talking about. You're just. Senator Rosen.

[Dave Rubin]

He has a floor.

[Marco Rubio]

I know your staff wrote up this cute statement for your TikTok video, but it's not true and it's not real. That's not what happened.

[Dave Rubin]

That's good. He's really good. She's reading a statement. She sounds like a third grade teacher reciting something to the class. And he just cleans it up. Here's where I am. Here's the calls that I took here's who I spoke to. Oh, yeah, I was on a secure line. Da da da da da da da. And also the idea, no matter what you think of this war, the idea, I mean, basically she was like, you were at a party and not paying attention. The idea that Marco Rubio is not on the ball as it relates to all this is just profoundly absurd. So I'd have to say there's been a nice theme of the show today, which has been there are some sane people waking up. Obviously, in la, more broadly, California, we've got some competent people in our government right now. And actually that's a perfect segue to the final segment today, which is that we are also doing a major job cleaning up this fraud style. The Democrats always want more money. What do they want? We want more of your money to throw at these big government programs. But they never want you to look at fraud. Right. Because they want to money launder through all of this. Well, now Dr. Oz, who really has become another all star in all of this, they're starting to look into Obamacare and how much money is just going through the system that is just absolutely fraudulent. That is not going. They're taking taxpayer dollars, putting it through the Obamacare system and finding out that about 25% of the money, and it's an awful lot probably fraudulent.

[Dr. Oz]

Let's talk about Obamacare. Let's take a step back. 20, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 20, there were 9 million people on Obamacare. 9 million. Today it's more than 20 million. Like what happened? We believe that 35%, roughly, roughly, of the people that are using the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare exchanges, because they've never used the program once, they've never filed a claim, may not be legit. And that actual number may translate to 5, 6 million people we could be paying premiums for.

[Dave Rubin]

Okay, sorry, I think I said 25% of the dollars. I meant 25% of the people, obviously. But then the point is, when they're on these rolls, how much money is running through the system for people that aren't even actually legit? And this is consistent with everything we're finding out through virtually every government program, period. The other huge thing that Oz has been looking into is this hospice situation in LA, where 1/3 of the hospices in the United States of America are in Los Angeles. Now, I know they got a lot of zombies wandering the streets there on their super meth, but those are on the streets. They're not in hospice. Yes. Are they dead? It's a fine line between Zombie and actual death or return from the dead or whatever you want to say. But we are now finding out that huge amounts of money have been laundered through this and they've closed 850 hospices in Cali alone.

[Dr. Oz]

Other states have also been problematic. California comes to mind where we've made several trips of late. One third of all of the hospice in the entire country. And hospice is a precious beautiful program built in the 80s to take care of people with dignity in the last months of their life. Classically, someone has metastatic cancer, they're going to die, it's going to happen in a few months. Give up your Medicare because why would you want Medicare? You don't need all those things. Take hospice instead. But that trade has risks with it if you don't actually have a lethal problem. And when one third of all the hospices in the entire country are in Los Angeles, not even California and Los Angeles Angeles, that creates issues. Our agency has now suspended payments to 850. Almost half of all the hospices in California now have been suspended.

[Dave Rubin]

You think, I mean think how insane that is. So 800 and they found that 850 hospices in California were fraudulent. Something was going wrong. So they've suspended payment. Now you would think if these hospices were legit and they suddenly stopped getting payment that people would, that I don't know, people would just be, these people are going to hospice to die. Right. So you'd think people would just be dropping dead left and right. But we are going to find out that that actually isn't the case. Because actually what are these people at these hospices doing with the money? Well, it's the same thing as they do at the Quality Leering Center. They put up a sign that doesn't even spell learning. Correct. They say it's a hospice. We're in a strip mall, it's a hospice. There's no people here, but there's an awful lot of BMWs and some McLarens outside. What the high hell's going on here? Here's CBS under Barry Weiss looking into some of California's fraudulent financials. I wish I could show you what's behind here, but I can describe. I've seen over a dozen Ferraris, Lamborghinis, a Bugatti, Lotus, several G Wagons. These are just some of the assets the government has seized from fraudsters who have taken your taxpayer dollars and bought some of these ill gotten gains. LA's top federal prosecutor Bill Osaili showed us around this U.S. marshal's warehouse. It should offend every American taxpayer that these people are taking advantage of the system and enriching themselves. These items had been owned by Paul Randall, who pleaded guilty to wire fraud this year in one of the largest medi Cal fraud cases in California history. Wait, I just had him googling saying, how much is a new Bugatti? It's really 4.1. A new Bugatti. Can we get a picture of a Bugatti? It sounds like something you'd have with a little red wine, but it's a car. We'll get a picture of a Bugatti up. A new bugatti costs over $3 million. Can you imagine? You're running a hospice, sir. What do you do? Well, I run a hospice. We have 20 patients at a time. We are trying to help them die with dignity. What kind of car do you drive? If you think, well, Honda. I'm running a hospice. It's a humble job. No, I have a Bugatti for over three. Do we have a picture over three? I'm driving a Bugatti. That seems like a guy who's going to hospice. Un freaking believable. So now let's try to tie this thing all together. We'll go back to Karen Bass, because in the midst of this election, which is seemingly mostly about homelessness and drug abuse. Well, what's. What's she doing? She's going to give the homeless people more beds because there's nothing someone on super meth and fentanyl needs. They just need to take a nap. It has nothing to do with the economic conditions or the crazy drugs or the psychosis. It's just about housing. Today we're filling the gap when Social Security no longer covers the cost of a mortgage or rent. Today we are bringing help for caretakers with disabilities who struggle to make ends meet. And today we are investing in housing as part of our work to lower the cost of housing for everyone. Today we are preventing homelessness and increasing housing affordability with the release of $14 million in housing assistance and 300 million in essence. What she's saying is we'll just throw more money at the thing. We're always throwing money around. And Spencer Pratt should have been there in the back yelling, look around, lady. These people are huge. Swaths of them are on massive amounts of drugs. You guys have tried all of these things. We've shown you the video of 15 years ago when he was mayor. Almost 20 years ago. Mayor than Gavin Newsom in San Francisco talking about his 10 year plan to eradicate homelessness. And then he'd come exploded in San Francisco, and it exploded in Cali, where he became governor also, she says at the top of that, this is for people whose Social Security doesn't cover mortgage. Well, Social Security is not really supposed to cover mortgage. You're supposed to live. The general idea would be that you would live responsibly throughout your life, and then in your retirement years, you would get Social Security. And that could buttress the fact that you're not getting the full salary anymore, but that hopefully you've done a few things correct in your life. But now they're trying. This is again where they trick you. It sort of sounds right. Well, I would like Social Security to cover mortgage. Why doesn't it do that? But it's not really supposed to do that. It's the same thing when they say people can't survive, raise a family on minimum wage. You're not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. You're supposed to have a minimum wage job when you're young and getting into the workforce, and then you move on up. Right. And people do actually do that. And capitalism is the only thing that allows them to do it. So, Callie, Los Angeles, you can either continue with her, who is spending money to further problems that she created, or you could try the guy who burned. They burned his house down.

[Spencer Pratt]

I've had to leave my family the most since I've had a wife and had kids. This is like, people like, oh, he's doing this for clout. I say fun clout. Political clout is scary. I gotta have now armed cops with me, 24 hour security on my kids. People are crazy. This is not like, fun. I'm doing this, like, for the real, like, for my heart. Like, I'm risking a lot to do this. I'm not doing this like, oh, I want to be the man. No, I want to make a change.

[Dave Rubin]

So again, you got my vote. Yeah, let's do it. Spencer, man, appreciate you so much. You know what? Let me ramp up the. Ramp up the tension a little bit here to end the show today, when that election comes in November, he has to win. He has to win if New York will ever have a future, if Los Angeles will ever have a future. And the reason for that is because you hear what he just said there. They say it's cloud, whatever. It's not fun. It's not fun. It's not fun when you do anything in the public eye that then suddenly people are coming after your kids or you have to worry about your security, especially in the political climate that we live in, we're less than a year since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, There was another assassination attempt on Trump. We know that the Democrats, a certain set of Democrats, are more than okay with political violence. That lunatic Hassan and even Lenny Charlemagne that. Well, I can kind of understand why people don't like him. I can understand why people would try to shoot him. You think he's doing this for clout? His house burned down, his parents house burned down. So he really is doing it for the right reasons. And at some point, if all the people who do it for the right reasons don't win and enough people flee these cities, then it will just be over. Like at some point it just becomes about numbers that good people will just flee. I think New York is in a similar situation. At some point when Mondami squeezes the last dime out of all of the productive people and just leaves a city for people who are dependent on him. I've given it back. He's Bane. I've given it back to the people. Well, it doesn't work out that well, right? How'd it work out for Bain, somebody with the mask and then the lady with the. But that's where we will be at that, the cities. And I've mentioned this before, that I think what we will end up having in the country to some extent is that cities will be hyper controlled, massive dystopian failures, and most functional people will live in more rural areas, separate themselves from all of that control, and do the best they can to keep that control as far away from them as possible. So la, this is your last chance. This is your last chance. New York, New York, well, look, a phoenix can always rise from the ashes, but I mean, last chance like this may take another 20 years. New York, it's a very similar situation. And for some of these other places, Chicago, Detroit, etc. You guys have made your choices. And as I like to say, as Jerry said to George, good luck with all of that. Good luck with the postgame show coming up in 30 seconds. Rubinreport.locals.com See ya. Sa.