Dave Rubin (3:35)

You know, I always say how Trump, especially when he's going off the cuff and he gets the mic just thrown in his face on the plane and everything else, that he just speaks freely. And I don't think we will ever, and I genuinely mean it, I don't think we will ever have a president that will be more honest with this guy, less scripted and everything else. I just don't even see how it would be possible. But what you're getting from Caroline Levitt right there is a pretty similar version of that. She's saying, yeah, we talked to the original guys, they lied. They're not with us anymore. There was a second tier crew over the last few weeks. They're not here anymore. And now these guys are saying they're willing to negotiate. And think about it. If you're the third tier down, right, you're the AAA guys that are talking to the Americans right now, and you realize everybody above you is dead. Well, you just got promoted real quick and you might think, well, Donald Trump's not messing around. When they say they're gonna bomb the high hell out of us, when they say they're gonna kill all the leadership and everything else, they seem to be doing it. This isn't like previous administrations who said all sorts of things but never did anything. So to whatever extent this new set of people, and as far as I can tell, and I was looking this morning like we don't even really know. We, the American people right now, don't even know really who we're talking to on the other side, Trump and Rubio and everybody else, they know who they're talking to, obviously. But if you're them, just out of self preservation, if nothing else, would you not be like, all right, let's negotiate with the Americans. Let's have a regime that's a little more friendly to American Interests, let's stop the fighting. Maybe we can, I don't know, change some of our policies about repressing our own people, and then maybe there is a more peaceful future on the horizon. So something seems to be working right now. Here is Secretary of War Pete Hegseth saying that although we didn't call this a regime change war in day one, regime change has happened already.

Pete Hegseth (5:29)

But if Iran is wise, they will cut a deal. President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down. You can ask Khamenei about that. The new Iranian regime should know that by now. This new regime, because regime change has occurred, should be wiser than the last President Trump will make a deal. He is willing and the terms of the deal are known to them. If Iran is not willing, then the United States War Department will continue with even more intensity.

Dave Rubin (6:03)

Right, so that's exactly what I laid out right there. Right? Like these guys, whoever's in charge right now, they know that if they don't negotiate with the United States in good faith, if they don't come to the table, they are dead. So they might be willing to do it. Cuz they also know that if they're not willing to do it, somebody is right behind them that probably will. And to Hegseth's point, Trump doesn't mess around. So he'll, if you push him to a corner, is Trump gonna take these guys out and continue this? Of course he will. Of course he will. So even though this wasn't sold as a regime change war, if there is new leadership that is gonna take over the country now that is more in line with American interest, that's what Trump is going for and it seems to be happening. Now, of course, the media, which as I've been talking about all these people that have Trump derangement syndrome, what is the number one symptom of Trump derangement syndrome? It's that if Donald Trump believes something, if Donald Trump says something, you have to take the exact opposite position. So while Trump is saying the negotiations are going well, while Hagseth's saying, hey, we're still putting military pressure in case they don't go well, the media, of course, is saying everything is going terribly. Here's Caroline Levitt calling them out on that.

Caroline Levitt (7:15)

It's no surprise that we are seeing the remaining elements of the regime become increasingly eager to end the destruction and come to the negotiating table while they still can. Despite all of the public posturing you hear from the regime and false reporting, talks are continuing and going well. What is said Publicly is, of course, much different than what's being communicated to US Public privately. If the Iranians reject this golden opportunity, the greatest military in the history of the world continues to stand by to provide President Trump with every option available to ensure this regime continues to pay a grave price.

Dave Rubin (7:52)

Right? So look, Trump's doing standard peace through strength stuff, right? You're going to use your military and you're going to use pressure when you need to so that the guys that you're negotiating with will come to the table. This is carrot and stick stuff. If you behave with us, you get the carrot. If you don't, you get the stick. And speaking of the stick, there's no audio on this, so let's just throw to it real quick. Trump posted this on Truth Social last night. I mean, there are still massive. I mean, look at these explosions. Like, this is not kids stuff. So we are keeping the military pressure on while we are talking to them. We are showing them, hey, we are willing to stop. We are willing to stop. Your ballistic missile program is gone. You're not making any more drones. The nuke program has been set back. Right? We've taken out the key stuff. We've sort of shown you at this. Sort of. That's a light way of saying it. We've basically shown you at this point that if you export terror throughout the region and attack 13 neighboring states and everything else, we will gladly take you out. And we'll take the next round out and the next round and the next round and the next round. That is what Trump is good at. Here is Secretary of State Marco Rubio talking about the Strait of Hormuz, which is sort of semi. It's not closed right now. It's sort of semi. Semi closed. It's a little unclear exactly what's happening. Rubio's point is, one way or another, this thing's opening up and quick.

Marco Rubio (9:07)

Well, the Straits of Hormuz will be open when this operation is over. It will be open, and it'll be open. One way or another. It will be open because Iran agrees to abide by international law and not block a commercial waterway or a coalition of nations from around the world. And the region, with the participation of the United States, will make sure that it's open. One way or the other, it's going to be open.

Dave Rubin (9:27)

So this is pretty freaking clear messaging by the administration. What's he saying right there? Either these guys that we're negotiating with right now are gonna keep this thing open and transit's gonna be going, and it's all good. Everybody's gonna be happy. It'll be just like it was, you know, a month and a half before, or we're gonna bomb the crap out of you. And if you want us to do that, well, you'll get your wish. Here's a bit more on that. This is from Trump on Truth Social. All of those countries that can't get jet fuel because the Strait of Hormuz, like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran. I have a suggestion for you. Number one, buy from the U.S. we have plenty. And number two, build up some delayed courage, go to the straight and just take it. You'll have to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there for us. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done. Go get your own oil. President Donald J. Trump. I mean, that is, that is Trump 101. We did the work. We asked the UK and France and some of these other countries to get involved. They largely stayed out and issued mealy mouth statements. There's nothing he hates more than that. Countries that don't pay their way and lecture us on how to behave. He's now saying, all right, well, you'll be able to get oil from us. That would be pretty good, right? Like, you want that jet fuel, buy it from the U.S. we also now have access to Venezuelan oil. So he's truly, I mean, I think, I really believe six months from now, a year from now, when we look back on all of this, we will see that Donald Trump has completely changed the chessboard of the Middle east and quite literally the entire world. But everybody's hung up on the straight of Hormuz. Nobody's asking about the gay of Hormuz except this guy. Isn't it a little bit homophobic that we're so focused on the straights of Hormuz and not the gays of Hormuz? Yes, I agree. Yes, for sure. And these are the average people that are out there protesting that Donald Trump's a king even though he was elected. Blah, blah, blah. Ana Navarro. It's bad enough she has one job on the View. They somehow let her on CNN a couple times a week. And like this level of analysis, still going after Trump for his words and language instead of what's actually happening, like this is so boring. Thus on cnn, it's very hard to

Narrator/Announcer (11:47)

believe anything that comes out of his mouth. And he's, I think that when he's so flippant and cavalier and things like these truth social posts where he says he calls it our lovely little stay in Iran. Why? Why be so stupid when there's 13 dead Americans?

Dave Rubin (12:04)

Anna, Anna, Anna, Anna, Anna, Anna, Anna. You do this for a living. You are on television every day supposedly analyzing this stuff. Do you not understand what Donald Trump is doing at this point? Do you not understand that he sends in highly competent people like Marco Rubio to negotiate and sends in people like Pete Hegseth to run the war operation while he has some sort of blue sky messaging and also says crazy things that keeps everybody kind of on their toes and that's why he's able to accomplish so much. And I said, six months and a year from now, when we look back on this thing, when we look back on Donald Trump's legacy, probably 20 years from now, assuming the communists and jihadists haven't completely overrun the country, we will look back and go, thank God this guy existed because he was up against everything. And he just said, I will do it. Like, I don't know where it came from, divine intervention or what, but he said, I will do it now. Interestingly, you know, one of the things I've talked about in the last month is that it's becoming hard to gauge, sort of, especially if you're, if you're in the online world, it's hard to gauge what reality is in terms of people supporting the war. Not because there's a very loud set of, you know, the Tucker Carlson set, let's say, of they're not even on the right anymore. I don't even know what to call them. But podcasters who are very anti war and anti Trump at this point. But open source intel put this up and I thought there's some interesting polling. I mean, this is, this is seriously interesting stuff out of Harvard Harris poll. So this is not a poll that's going to lean heavily pro Trump. Let's say key takeaways on Iran and the war. 76% say the US is currently winning the war against Iran. That's pretty significant. 64% say Iran violated its nuclear deal. 62% view Iran as a direct US national security threat. 67% say Iran is a leading source of instability, terrorism and war. 68% believe the Iranian people do not support the regime. 73% support Israel over Hamas. 51% support Israel strikes on Iran. 54% say the campaign is justified. Support for the war is heavily split politically. Republicans strongly back it. Democrats largely oppose. Look, those are pretty good numbers. If You're Trump, you're a Republican right now. Those are pretty good numbers. He's leading. I think most people see it. There's always going to be a certain set of hyper isolationist people who are going to always be upset about everything. And part of that is because if you just say, I'm anti war, if that's just what your position is, I'm just anti war. It's not really a real world position because sometimes war comes to you. Bad guys are like, oh, that guy's anti war. Well, that's going to be pretty easy to win, right? So Donald Trump is doing something that is real world important. And he's, and he's leading. I mean, even if those numbers weren't as favorable to Trump, Donald Trump is leading right now. And as I've said from the beginning of this thing, I think he deserves a leeway. I think he deserves our trust at the moment because he's been so right about so many things. From so right about so many things to so wrong about so many things. We will talk about the ladies of the View who went after my friend Isabel Brown yesterday. But first, Lean. Everyone's talking about weight loss injections because the results can be dramatic. They work by lowering blood sugar and reducing appetite. But what if you want to lose weight and don't want painful weekly injections or the risk of serious side effects? That's why doctors created a weight loss supplement called Lean. And the numbers are impressive. 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This is probably the least controversial things you could possibly say. She didn't say she wants to Force anyone to do it or to strap them down and do it handmade style or anything like that. She just said, you know, marry a guy, have some kids, see what happens. It's pretty good. This triggered the ladies of the View that these five women sit there all day long and they just find things to complain about. And of all things, for these five women to come together and complain about. They're upset that a young woman would say have kids. Here's Whoopi kicking off the segment.

Whoopi Goldberg (16:54)

And conservative activist Isabel Brown had a message for her fellow Gen Z women, who reportedly are the least likely group in America to get married and have kids. But I want you to see this clip.

Interviewer (17:10)

If you're not encouraging your children to grow up and have the courage to get married and have kids, more kids than they can afford, before they think they're ready, it is high time to start. It is these choices like deleting our dating apps and quitting birth control pills and saying I do at the altar that ultimately trickle down into the political policies that we will see save our country.

Dave Rubin (17:34)

It's the least controversial thing you could possibly imagine, right? It's saying, take some responsibility. Do what your parents did. Most of us, our parents probably didn't have enough money to have kids, but went out and did it. And you find a way. You figure it out. And maybe if you marry somebody you love and you have some kids, you can build something great together and share what was given to you by your parents. And as Jordan Peterson would say, you can quite literally build Jacob's Ladder together, which would take you to the kingdom of Heaven. If you want to do this in a sort of biblical sense, that would be my take on it. Here's the View's take on it.

Whoopi Goldberg (18:09)

I just want to say, years ago, they used to come after women of color and accuse women of color of doing this very thing.

Narrator/Announcer (18:22)

My ultimate beef with this is that it wraps a woman's worth up in her ovaries in a way that for too long has happened. The whole women's movement was not about bucking the trend of staying at home or loving tradition. It was giving women a choice to do what they wanted.

Sunny Hostin (18:41)

Who?

Narrator/Announcer (18:41)

There is the call to responsibility for the men who help make these children right.

Caroline Levitt (18:47)

I am.

Narrator/Announcer (18:48)

I don't know why it's always people lecturing women what they have to do or not to do.

Dave Rubin (18:55)

God, this is so crazy. And this one's personal to me because as some of you may remember, not only is Isabel a friend of mine, I wrote the foreword for her book. We used to do a show together for a while, but her husband, when Anna, right there, when you're talking about the men, where are the men in this? Well, her husband, Isabel's husband, Brock, used to work for me for years. And he's a great guy. And I was thrilled. I not only attended their wedding, I was thrilled to be there and thrilled to find out when we had dinner with them one night at their house that they, that Isabel was pregnant. And when they ultimately decided to move from Miami so they could be closer to home because that's what they wanted to be, so that they could have grandparents around as they were raising their children and everything else. Like, I was nothing but happy for them, even though I loved both of them and, you know, would have loved to have them stay here. The idea that this has nothing to do with the man's decision. They made those decisions together. Also. This, that what's her name? Who's the one that my mom, Sarah Haines. That my mom always wants me to not say mean things about. No one's saying the woman's worth is only in her ovaries. But the modern feminist movement sold you something else. It sold women that, oh, you've got to get out there into the corporate world. You've got to have this other job. Now it's women, just like men, should be able to do whatever they want. You should think about what it is you actually want in life and everything else. But the feminist movement told them that basically being in the kitchen and having kids and all of that is backwards and ancient and useless and everything else, and go be in the corporate world. And then what has happened over the last 30 years to so many women that did that? Well, many of them actually end up becoming childless into their 30s and 40s and depressed and anxiety ridden and on drugs. And look at all the female comedians. Give me Chelsea Handler and Sarah Silverman, all these miserable women that don't have kids. Now, of course you could not have kids and still be happy and functional. It's, I think, a little bit trickier to do. But that you were sold something that wasn't good, it wasn't a good bill of goods, and you guys were sold it and you took it and why would you be upset? It's just. Here's more from Sonny. It's just crazy.

Sunny Hostin (21:01)

And I think it's just really reckless. Reckless to be suggesting that people should have children when you now know in this country there's this affordability crisis. And for a two person household, a married household, you need over $400,000 for childcare. Over $400,000. Most people don't make over $400,000. So she's advocating for people to be born into poverty. People not being able to feed those children, people not being able to educate those children, and people not being able to house those children. At the same time, when this government is cutting all of the services that would allow people to have families and big families.

Dave Rubin (21:39)

Everything that woman said is backwards or ridiculous. First off, you guys love government programs. So just get power again and create more government programs for all, number one. Number two, the idea that you need $400,000 for childcare and everything else, like people have grandparents and aunts and uncles and there are ways that you can do things without having all of that money. It should be some layer of the conversation, right? Of course it should be. You're about to have kids. Should you think, well, do we have enough room in this house or another child? Do we both work and is there going to be anyone that can help take us take care of this child during the day, do we have grandma here? All of these things. That's all called being a responsible adult. And that you guys whittle it down. That Sunny Hostin, who's worth a gajillion dollars, her husband's a mega, mega millionaire, that she whittles it down to don't have kids because it's going to be tough financially is absolutely disgusting. But watch the jump that I'm going to do here because not only do the ladies of the View go after ladies who have a different view, they also don't mention ladies who have been killed by their view. And what I mean by that is their view has largely been the Democrat view, of course, which has been open borders, let everybody in, and everything else the View has not once covered. The 18 year old girl at Loyola Marymount in Chicago named Sheridan Gorman who was killed by an illegal, who was not only illegal but also had been let out of jail in 2023, they have not covered her once. So if a conservative woman says has kids, say says have kids, they go crazy about it. If a young 18 year old, likely liberal, probably in Chicago is killed by an illegal, they don't say a word about it. Here's Caroline Levitt showing the discrepancy of how the mainstream media is covering this Sheridan Gorman story.

Caroline Levitt (23:35)

Saw a survey over the weekend that I'd like to bring to all of your attention. This is the media coverage of the case of Sheridan Gorman. You have ABC News has spent 1 minute and 19 seconds between two days when this case was first alerted. You have CBS 2 minutes and 1 second. You have NBC 23 seconds spent on the life of a young, beautiful American woman whose life was taken short by an illegal alien who should have never been here in the first place. When we are in the middle of a battle on Capitol Hill with a major political party, the Democrat Party, who wants to defund the agency that is responsible for protecting Americans. I think her life was worth more than 23 seconds on cable television.

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Dave Rubin (24:17)

So look, I don't need to make this story about the View, but it's like, ladies, you should care about women, right? You all just seem to care about women. That's what you were telling us. You were, you don't want women to have kids because you care about women so much. So why is it that you don't care about that 18 year old girl? Why can't you do one segment on that? And yet when, when another young woman just says, you know, have some kids, have a family, you're apoplectic about it, that that's one part of it. I should also note that, you know, one of the things that I wrote about and don't burn this book from this is now, you know, eight years ago or something was the types of fake news. And you know, people think that fake news is just like a completely made up story or they think it's when the headline doesn't match what's in the actual contents of the article and those are types of fake news. But one of the things or the type that I would say is the most nefarious type of fake news is when the mainstream media doesn't cover something because it doesn't fit the narrative. And I think that's exactly what's happening here with Sheridan Gorman. There's no logical reason that all of the mainstream media, as Levitt just pointed out right there, all of the mainstream media is ignoring a story of an 18 year old college student being killed by an illegal. Unless it just doesn't fit the narrative. So they don't know what to do with the story. And you should be aware of that because when they don't cover something, all of the people that watch mainstream media, they don't know what they don't know, right? It's Plato's cave. They don't know what's outside of the cave, they only know what's inside of the cave and they're getting information that is half being generous, that is half of the truth. It's not even close to that.

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Dave Rubin (26:20)

But what else is going on here to the backdrop of all this with the illegals? Well, it's the fact that the Democrats are still fighting to defund DHS because they don't want ICE funded even though, as you know, ICE is funded through 2029. Here's Levitt again showing how the Democrats are just clearly, it's not even, it's not even a debate anymore. They are just putting illegals over Americans at this point. Period. Full stop.

Caroline Levitt (26:43)

But this moment should be an eye opening one for the American people. Let's be clear about what is happening. Democrat members of Congress are more than happy to put your safety at risk because they oppose the President's administrative and his administration's efforts to enforce our nation's immigration law. Democrats refuse to fund ICE because they want millions and millions of illegal aliens to pour into the country just like they were under the Biden administration. They want murderers and rapists and thugs to remain in your communities rather than be removed by ICE and Border Patrol agents. The Democrats created this message. They are the reason for long lines at airports and tens of thousands of employees going without pay.

Dave Rubin (27:25)

I mean, yeah, like how can you argue anything against what she just said right there? The Democrats created the mess. They opened the border. True. The Democrats are defunding DHS because they're upset with ice. True. We just illustrated the Democrats don't even talk about, they don't even, like, they don't even have just the basic decency to talk about the young women who are being murdered right now. So the only conclusion that you can come to is that they want this. And I don't think that's a cynical conclusion to come to. They want this because they are trying to flood our country with people that they can keep on the dole so that they can vote for them without IDs, which is what the freaking SAVE act is about. Also, Eric Swalwell, if you thought Cali was bad under Newsom well, this guy is running for governor. He is just. Just such a slime ball. He banged a Chinese spy. Now that we finally, you know, yesterday we showed you, JD Vance fully admitting that we know that Ilhan Omar married her brother to create federal immigration fraud. Well, another story that eventually will bubble fully forth is that Eric Swalwell banged a Chinese spy named Fang Fang. He. Fang Fang sounds like a bad guy from DC movies. That's Fang Fang. Get him. And now he's running for governor of California. Here he is lowering the rhetoric. At least he's lowering. He's tuning down. He's turning down the temperature. At least he's doing that.

Interviewer (28:55)

House Republicans want DHS fully funded, including ice. Democrats want to fund DHS minus ICE and some cbp. Realistically, though, ICE does have enough money to operate through the end of Trump's term already. Even without that funding that Democrats object to. What are you gaining as a party for the American people if ICE is still going to be funded to operate either way here?

Eric Swalwell (29:25)

Well, the White House, by funding ICE and cbp, is essentially sanctioning or signing off on more public executions. You know, we saw what happened with a nurse named Pretty and a mom named Good, and I'm not gonna co sign on that.

Dave Rubin (29:40)

What an absolutely horrible person he is. Yeah, that's what ICE is doing, public executions. The woman put her car in forward and there was an ICE agent standing right in front of it. What would you do, Swalwell, when eventually the revolution comes to eat you, which it will, what would you do if someone was coming to kill you? The other guy had already a week before been fighting with ICE agents and attacked one of their cars and broke a bumper. And he was armed and he was wrestling with people. Nobody wants to see any of those things. Nobody wants any of these protesters to be killed. Even the worst of the worst. I don't want them to be killed, obviously. But it's you guys who have not only opened the borders that created the problem, you've ginned them up into thinking that there are Nazis running around the streets and brown shirts and everything else, even though it's a lot closer to your guys that are those things I will give credit to. I think her name is Brianna Keillor over at cnn. You actually framed the question properly. She said ICE is funded. So what are you doing, Swalwell? Then, of course, he didn't answer that. He basically said they're just doing public executions. I mean, just absolutely awful. Here's Swalwell going after the ICE agents who are now in airports, making sure that you can get in your plane on time.

Eric Swalwell (30:47)

And to just further prove how unnecessary ICE has become in our communities, if they're able to go to every airport, and I saw them at the airport this morning, as I said, flew to California, if they're able to stand there, do much of nothing, and pass out water bottles, why did we need them? Why were they so essential in our communities in the first place?

Dave Rubin (31:08)

That is. I mean, it's just. It's brain damaging. It's actually brain damaging. They're there doing the job that TSA workers aren't doing because you are not paying them. That's number one. Number two, they would be out on the streets getting rid of illegals if they didn't have to do this. But you people created the situation there, and that they all in their boxes. Oh, that guy's very.

Whoopi Goldberg (31:30)

That.

Dave Rubin (31:30)

That. He's very, very bright. Here's just a quick video of ICE agents at airports helping people get through security. There they are. And they're just doing a job, and it's fairly orderly, and they're just helping people get through. That's not what they signed up for when they took the job originally, but they're doing their civic duty and they're following orders and they're helping people get to wherever they're going. And it actually is working. You guys know Lenny, he's this. They call him Charlemagne the God. I can't call him that. His name's Lenny. I call him Lenny. But he flew out of LaGuardia, and ICE was doing everything, and it was just fine. Even Lenny admitted it. And Lenny ain't no Trump supporter.

Lenny (Charlemagne the God) (32:21)

I flew outta LaGuardia Friday. I ain't see no TSA agents. ICE was doing everything.

Dave Rubin (32:26)

And how was.

Lenny (Charlemagne the God) (32:28)

I mean, they were great, to be honest with you. Like, to be honest, like, they were. And for that particular terminal, I was flying out LaGuardia. I forgot what terminal it was. But, yeah, they were being extra nice, like Chick fil a workers. I was saying to myself, I'm like, there's no way in hell this is the same ICE agents that was on the streets of places like Minnesota with the mask on.

Dave Rubin (32:49)

Actually, it is the same ICE agents. And it's just that you've been propagandized to believe that when they're out there on the street doing incredibly hard work because they're being attacked by people who have been ginned up by the Democrats, you think that they're evil and they're Nazis and everything else. And then you finally have an interaction with them and you find them quite lovely. Almost as nice as Chick Fil A employees, which is impossible. The only thing nicer than a Chick Fil a employee is an In n Out. You ever been to In N Out? Those people, those with their little paper hats, those are the happiest fast food workers in town. But that would be something. Maybe we combine ICE with Chick Fil A and when you go through, you also get a chicken sandwich, which quite frankly, it's, it's overrated. I think we've discussed that before. Chris Van Hollen, you know this guy? He's a senator from Maryland. This guy has a raging boner for Abrego Garcia. He was the guy who beat his wife and was human trafficker. El Salvador prison. Not a citizen went there, had margaritas with him. You remember him. Never says anything about the women that are killed in his state by these people. But here he is with a little double speak on what's going on with ice.

Chris Van Hollen (33:48)

We have been clear, we're not going to fund a lawless ICE operation. And we've insisted on significant reforms, reforms that the Trump administration has refused to make. And so we're not going to provide ICE another $10 billion to continue their lawless activities. But as you know, Republicans, in their so called big beautiful bill that cut Medicaid and health care, they funded ice. So ICE does have a lot of money. We've just said we're not going to give them even more money.

Dave Rubin (34:23)

But no one's asking for more money. It's funded already, as you just admitted there. And Abby, Phillip, as usual, just nothing behind her eyes, just sits there silently. It's like you could say, lady, you could say, so if you know it's been funded already, do you think exerting maximum pain on the American people is worth it? You could also say, how was that margarita with the brago Garcia? Did you know he beat his wife with a boot? Did you know he was a human trafficker? Did you know he was a member of Ms. 13? Did you know he was not a legal citizen of the United. But she can't do any of that. Here is Illinois Representative Raja Krishnamuruthi and he's very excited over on Ms. Now that the Democrats are not sending another nickel to ice, even though once again ICE is fully funded through

Interviewer (35:15)

how steeled

Sunny Hostin (35:17)

is the spine of the Democratic caucus right now.

Dave Rubin (35:21)

I think it's pretty strong.

Pete Hegseth (35:22)

Look, I think, I think that people

Dave Rubin (35:25)

like myself and others, we're not going to send another nickel to ice. And cbp. Oh, you're not going to send them another nickel. Well, that's just fine because it's funded already. I may have to bash my head. If I can't curse, I may have to just start bashing my head on the desk. What else can I do at this point? Is anyone. Is any. What is wrong with all of you people? I know what's wrong with you. You all want to destroy the United States and you're figuring out that lying is probably the best way to do it. But you're not good. You're not good people. But don't listen to me when it comes to all of this. Why don't you listen to Timo Obama, Hakeem Jeffries. Because here he is in 2015 and he was all about DHS funding back then.

Timu Obama (36:01)

I thank the distinguished gentlelady from New York. We are here today to do a single job and that should be to fund fully the Department of Homeland Security. Anything else is an abdication of our responsibility. Anything else is an act of legislative malpractice simply because of the inability of my friends on the other side of the aisle to satisfy the thirst of the extreme right wing anti immigration base of the party. And so we're playing political games at a time when the safety and the security of the American people is being threatened.

Dave Rubin (36:40)

Well, that's interesting, Timu Obama, because in 2015 you were very concerned about the safety and security of the American people. And interestingly, while you guys are doing this partial government shutdown and making sure DHS doesn't get the amount of money it needs and keeping creating a major situation with ICE not on the streets because they got to do other work and creating a general state of nobody knows what's going on. We've had four radical Islamic terrorist attacks in the United States in the last month, which DHS might be looking into if they were not partially defunded at the moment. And it turns out you may remember we barely even covered it because at some point it gets hard to cover all of these things. And that's part of the problem. But there was the Michigan synagogue car ramming attack where this guy tried to kill as many toddlers who were at a kindergarten preschool as possible. Well, it now turns out that this was inspired by Hezbollah, who I assume are part of the Democrat coalition.

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FBI Agent Jennifer Runyon (38:06)

Based on the evidence gathered to date, we assess this attack to be a Hezbollah inspired act of terrorism purposely targeting the Jewish community and the largest Jewish temple in Michigan. The FBI defines terrorism as a violent criminal act by an individual who is inspired by or associated with a designated foreign terrorist organization. We do not make this characterization lightly without a thorough review and keen evaluation of the facts. In this case, the evidence shows the attacker was motivated and inspired by Hezbollah's militant ideology.

Dave Rubin (38:43)

All right, so that's pretty freaking clear right there. So you might think, boy, at a time like we are in right now, we are in the midst of a war, you might want to make sure that. I don't know, as Timo Obama said back in 2015, that you care about the safety and security of the American people. But here's a bit more from FBI agent Jennifer Runyon on how the guy was radicalized right here at home.

FBI Agent Jennifer Runyon (39:10)

Review of his online activity since January 2026 revealed a reoccurring search history of pro Hezbollah news channels, Iranian news channels and videos about shootouts and bullets. He regularly consumed breaking news and statements and live coverage of the current Secretary General of Hezbollah, Naim Kassim. Early morning he began adding photos to a Facebook photo profile photo album that he entitled Vengeance. And he started including images such as the late arrival Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, as well as the late Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah. With there in the right, in Arabic it says burn their world for we have a vendetta against them that we will never forget.

Dave Rubin (39:58)

So the question really is how many more of these types of people are there in America? How many people are being radicalized right at home online? She says he's watching pro Hezbollah news channels. That means he was watching Ms. Now you get it. We don't know how many of these people are out there. But do you think that maybe as we are in this strange time, that we should have Department of Homeland Security funded so that we'd be able to be looking into this a bit more so that we could stop the next one of these? Because we do have a radical Islamist problem in this country right now and it is spreading and we don't know exactly what to do with it. And by the way, it's happening in states, you know, you think, okay, okay, fine. It's happening in Dearborn, Michigan. Now, it seems to be happening pretty extensively in the Dallas suburbs area. But it, but radical Islam is taking root all over the place. Here's a march in South Carolina from just a few days ago. Now, I'm not saying all of these people are radical Islamists, but at some point when the religion becomes more of a political ideology than a religion, you have to start questioning what's going on. All right, so the chanting and you got to tell me, like, how's that going to work out for the tolerant Dems in the end? How's that going to work out for the queers for Palestine and everybody else? How's that going to work out? Probably not that well. Right, so the, so what we really need right now more than anything else, because you guys know I like solutions. So what do we need more than anything else? Well, we need people to talk about what's really happening here. We need people to be able to stand up and say what they think about some of this. Because it's your silence, actually that is giving all of the extremists room to operate. We've shown you this video a couple times before, but this will set up our final segment nicely. I think. This is Jordan Peterson with Piers Morgan talking about how lying, little lies are exactly what lead to a totalitarian state.

Jordan Peterson (42:09)

And many psychological commentators, Jung was a good example of that, made a very straightforward case that you can't have a totalitarian state unless every single person is willing to lie about everything all the time. And you can think about that as top down because the leaders lie too. And they also enforce punishments if you don't lie. But then you can also think about it. The totalitarian spirit is replicated at every level of the society. And so in a truly totalitarian state, husbands lie to their wives and parents lie to their children. And the totalitarian state is actually the grip of the lie.

Dave Rubin (42:44)

So let's try to connect that to what we've talked about today. When you see the Democrats, whether it's the View or it's Swalwell or Van Hollen or any of them lying about what the defunding of DHS is about, when you see them lying about what America fundamentally is about, when you see them parading around all weekend, no kings, even though Donald Trump was elected, like when you see this, it's all little lies. And everyone participates in the little lie. Now, I'M doing Jordan Peterson. And as those little lies proliferate, then nobody knows how to fight back because nobody knows what's true. You become untrustworthy. You could become untrustworthy of your husband or wife, of your neighbor and of everybody else and then society will slowly collapse. So let's contrast that with another version of it. The other version of it would be if good people start fighting, and if good people start fighting again, you can fix things and you can fix them rather quickly. The best example of that is what has happened in El Salvador over the last six or eight years. Nayib Bukhali came in. He's now two time president. I was just there a month ago after being there 10 years ago. And it is a completely, completely, completely different place. It was number one in murders in the western world ten years ago. Now they say, they argue it's the safest place in all the western world. But check out this video. I don't think there's audio so we can throw to it right now of what's going on in El Salvador right now. So you're seeing some of the new images of what they are building beautiful things versus what it looked like just a little while ago. And the amount of trash that was there. Look, I mean, look, you can fix things. In America, we seem to be doing the reverse. We're going from beautiful things to worse things. But there, look, you're literally looking at the exact same streets, you're looking at the exact same buildings. And they were able to fix it up and they were able to clean it up. And I'm telling you this is not, this is not propaganda. When Phoenix and I were there about a month ago, we walked around San Salvador and you can see it, you can see it and they still have vestiges of the old stuff. They still have barbed wire in places that they haven't removed yet. But you felt safe. We were quite literally out for dinner one night and I lost my wallet. I didn't even realize it. And a guy came up to me and handed me my wallet, right? Like that would not have happened in San Salvador. We probably wouldn't have been out to eat either because we would have had to stay in a guarded facility. So you can do things, but it is a choice. Now the other part of the choice is you have to actually, it's not that. You just have to make things safe, right? It's not just safety is the most important thing. You also have to build beautiful things. You have to build things so that people become inspired. So that they will go on their adventure as well. And that's another thing that the Democrats are not good at. Here is video of. I think we've shown you an image or two of this. I mean, this is just atrocious. This is Barack Obama's $850 million presidential library. Look at this thing in D.C. i mean, this is a brutalist monstrosity like you have never seen before. Look at this thing. Ugly. It looks like half of what the Jawa's ship looked like in Star wars and what you'd see as a dystopian prison somewhere. Just ugly and awful. And did I read that right? $500 million over budget. It was supposed to be 350 mil. It now costs 800. Where'd they come up with the other 500 million? So let's contrast that with something else. Well, Donald Trump will not be president forever. And one day he will have a library too. And they, they announced a few weeks ago, I think it was that his presidential library, the Trump Presidential Library, will be right here in Miami in a city that is thriving. That is the, that is the living embodiment of what America is all about right now. It is the number one city and the number one state in America right now. And they put up, Eric Trump posted this, they put up a little preview video of what the Trump presidential library will look like in contrast with what the Obama one looks like. I happen to like modern stuff. I happen to like glass and angles and things of that nature. I know it's not for everybody. And when you think about Trump, you think more of like the Mar a Lago thing and it's a little more gaudy and over the top, but something that's modern and sleek and American flags and beautiful lighting and everything. Like there's just no comparison. I should note, I think I said that the Obama library is in D.C. it's actually in Chicago. So I don't know. For Chicago, maybe they couldn't put windows up because they didn't want people to get shot through the windows. Who the hell knows? Anyway, that is our program for today. I thank you for watching. We've got a post game show coming up in 30 seconds@RubinReport Locals.com. oh, and tonight, what time we're gonna throw that Isabelle thing up sometime, sometime this evening. We'll say, we'll say around 6ish. I'll be sitting down with Isabelle for about, about 20 minutes probably just to recap the ridiculousness on the View. All right, thanks for watching. See you tomorrow.

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