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I think at this point, the rot has been too pervasive within their party, and I think they needed to stand up a long time ago and they weren't willing to do it. And the truth is that whenever you are willing to allow this very radical group of people to kind of infiltrate your party and spew out really crazy ideas all in the name of gaining votes because you think it may help you a little bit, you kind of get what you deserve in the end. Foreign
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I'm Dave Rubin, and joining me today is the host of My View with Lara Trump on Fox News. Lara Trump, welcome back to the Rubin Report.
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A
Thank you. Great to be with you. Always love it.
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B
Well, I always like talking to you. You're always bright and fresh and well tanned and fit and doing a lot of stuff. What do you spend more time on? Is it the lifestyle health stuff or is it the TV stuff or is it the kids stuff or is it the volunteering stuff? Because I know you do a lot of that, too.
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Yeah, I mean, I gosh, I try to split it all up. I'll tell you what I don't do a lot of is the sleeping stuff. That's for sure. That's where I'm losing out, Dave. There's no, no doubt about it. And in the world of, like, health and wellness, that is not a great thing. But I kind of feel like I'm probably like a lot of parents out there, Right. Like, we're all trying to do our best to be there for the kids, to be at all the events, to drop them off when we can. But I'm also simultaneously trying to do all these other things. Thank you for saying I'm tan. I always feel like I'm never tan enough. But in florid, you can never be too tan. So I'm here for it.
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B
It's gotta be tough trying to tan when you're in the Trump family because they're sort of a king of color over there.
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A
I can't compete with that and I'm not gonna try to. We're different shades. It's all good. He's gonna be the. I'm crowding him. The champion forever.
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B
So, as you know, I'm heading off the grid for August, and I'm trying to do these last few shows before I head off focusing a little more on the positive side of things that are happening right now rather than the negative. And that's generally what my outlook. There's always so much craziness and we can cover some of the onslaught of the communists that are coming and all the rest of it. But when you're doing your show right now, and generally when you're doing the political thing, not the family thing, where are you finding the moments of goodness or hope or that things will stay. I don't know, that America will stay, stay free, that kind of thing?
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Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, one of my biggest moments of joy recently is seeing the movement in the right direction. I think that this administration in particular is making not only with health and wellness with president and our HHS secretary Bobby Kennedy, but also for the animals. You know, I'm a huge animal lover. I have three dogs right now. If it were up to me, I'd probably have a house full. My husband would divorce me officially. But we're ending animal testing across this country. I think that's been a huge win. I was part of a team of people who helped rescue around 2,000 beagles from this facility in Wisconsin. We're working on others that currently exist because, Dave, we don't need them anymore. We have advancements in this space that have made it so that we don't need to test on animals, and we're making sure that they're, you know, going to good homes and that I. I always like whenever you have a win on the animal front. You know, we're also trying to work on the wild mustangs out west and ensure the right things happen there. But I think overall, you know, it doesn't matter where I go in this country, and you probably get the same thing. People truly love to be American, and they love to show their. Their patriotism. And in America's 250th year, it's been awesome to travel around the country, see people wearing their 250sh with the insignia and all the things celebrating America. And really, you know, at the end of the day, I think we're all more alike than we are different. We're also lucky, really, to be born in this country. And I feel like no matter where you go in America, I always get that vibe from people. And it's a great thing to keep top of mind because to your point, there are people out there who really want to change this country. But tell you what, the first 250 years has been pretty incredible. I. I want to make sure we see another 250, so.
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B
So, well, amen to that. What do you think we have to. What do you think we have to do to sell that? Maybe a little bit more. Because it seems we're all focused on the communist stuff, and we see what's going on in New York, and even if we're just mocking it, it's like, it seems like the energy seems to be around that and a lot of us are reacting to it. I'm trying to do what you're talking about, which, which is sell the positive vision of the country and Hope that the 2 50th, our 250th birthday can energize us towards the midterms. What do you think we have to do on the kind of branding side? You guys know a little something about branding when it comes to these things.
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Yeah, that's true. Well, look, I think, you know, foundationally, we have to go back to the basics and we have to look at our educational system. Right? Because when you're teaching our children and you're teaching our upcoming generations of Americans that this is a bad place, obviously they're going to interpret it as such and they're not going to want to fight for it and stand up for it and do all the things that, that maybe people of our generation have been able to do, or, you know, my parents and grandparents, et cetera. So I think it goes to the basics. I also think we have to teach everyone. It seems like in this country, the dangers of things like socialism, you know, the ideals upon which we were founded 250 years ago are basically the antithesis of socialism. Socialism erodes all of those things, you know, individual liberty, free enterprise, personal property. You look at every facet of what socialism does to a society and it, it, it, you know, erodes all of those things and, and ultimately we will no longer be this great country. And so I think, you know, in this moment, as we're heading to the midterms, my message has continued to be. And I can't take my former RNC co chair hat off. I couldn't. I'm still in that mode right now. I, I remember how, you know, hyped up Everybody was in 2024 because people really felt like that was an election that meant something, that it really was going to the direction of our country. I'm going to suggest that 2026 is equally as important. If you got involved and you got out and voted, if you volunteered, if you worked as a poll watcher or poll worker, I'm going to ask for people to do the same thing in 2026. Because it's not just good enough to have Donald Trump as the president. He needs a Congress who's going to ensure that the things that we want to see happen for our country over the next two years are going to be able to. To happen. And without that, Dave, we know what's gonna happen. We know that not only are they going to try and impeach him, which is probably day number one, they're gonna do all the crazy things that they've already said, and this president will get nothing great accomplished for America. And, man, are we lucky to live in a time when Donald Trump is our president. So I'm gonna say everybody, get out and vote. And I want to encourage everybody to take this election, these midterms, as seriously as we did two years ago.
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B
How do you think he's feeling about everything right now?
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I mean, I think he's. He's always cautiously optimistic. You know, I think in, in his world, you have to be an optimist. You have to see the bright side of things. You have to think about being victorious, because otherwise, you know, you listen to all the things going on out there, otherwise it could drive you crazy. And I think he knows that. He really has done some incredible things for this country and the world, quite frankly. There's no doubt about it. And I think we just need to continue messaging that. And I think he understands he's the best messenger the party has, quite frankly. And so he's, I'm sure, gonna be out doing a lot of rallies. I think he's gonna get as involved as he possibly can, but I think he's. I think he's feeling relatively good about things.
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B
You know, obviously we lost Senator Lindsey Graham earlier this week, and he was an incredible ally for your father in law, and it was an interesting relationship in some ways because a certain portion of the base really didn like Lindsay. But it was very clear that your d. That your father in law liked him. Can you talk a little bit about how he manages some of that stuff, the interpersonal stuff, with kind of the base and the overall populace and how he just. Because it seems to me he just does what he thinks is right. And you can agree or disagree with it. But, but I think this thing with Lindsay, this friendship that they had, despite it seeming seemingly at odds with a portion of the base, was. Was a good example of that.
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Yeah, well, Lindsey was. Was an interesting guy because he was able to deal with both sides of the aisle to a certain extent, which is hard to come by these days. And that's an important ally to have, for sure. I continue to think back to when Donald Trump initially ran for the presidency in 2016. If you recall, Lindsey Graham came out very much against him. And he was, he was trash talking him quite, quite extensively until Donald Trump went to a rally and, and gave everybody Lindsey Graham's phone number. If people remember that moment. Lindsey had to get a brand new cell phone number. He did a whole video on how to destroy your cell phone. Because he got more notoriety for his phone number being given out by Donald Trump than he had for anything in his tenure as a senator from South Carolina, which is hilarious. But I think you're right. Whenever you look at the president and the way he deals with things, he does what he thinks is right. And he is willing to sit down with people. I mean, Republicans, of course, but people on the opposite side of the aisle or even people who previous presidents, you know, when we're talking about world events, like, you know, Kim Jong Un of North Korea, who previous presidents have said, oh, we're not gonna do that, he's saying, well, listen, if, if we can make a deal here, if something good can happen for the American people, I'm willing to sit down, I'm willing to have those conversations. I'm willing to kind of cross this bridge that other people haven't. And I think that's a really incredible feature to have in a president. It takes a lot of guts to do things like that because you know you're gonna hear from a certain group of people for those things. But at the end of the day, he's never cared about what is politically advantageous for him. He's genuinely cared about what he thinks is the right thing to do for the future of the country.
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B
Yeah, that's why to me, it's like if the, if the Republicans can just hold the House and Senate. Two years of him being able to not think about elections and just do everything that he's promised and he's doing so many things at once. It's like that. That actually could reset all this ST stuff. Let's jump back a sec, because you mentioned the socialists and the communists and obviously everyone knows what's going on in New York City and everything else. What do you make of overall what's happening with the Democrat Party right now? Like, do you think the moderates, to whatever extent there are moderates. If we're going to call Hakeem Jeffries, let's say, or, I don't know, Newsom or Booker, if they are moderates in that ecosystem, do they have any chance to stand up against what's coming?
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I don't think so. I think at this point the rot has been too pervasive within their Party. And I think they needed to stand up a long time ago, and they weren't willing to do it. And the truth is that whenever you are willing to allow this very radical group of people to kind of infiltrate your party and spew out really crazy ideas all in the name of gaining votes because you think it may help you a little bit, you kind of get what you deserve in the end. And unfortunately for the Democrats, look, they've had zero leadership, right? They had four years of Joe Biden in the White House, and arguably that should have been their leader. He was the President of the United States, and yet he was completely absent. I mean, we don't. He didn't even know where he was half the time, right? So they had a lack of leadership at the top. They had really no policy points as a party other than anything against Donald Trump. Let's do the opposite of what he says. And the things he wanted to do for the country and that he was talking about in that election were very basic, like securing our border, bringing companies, you know, jobs back to our country, and having a flourishing economy. And so to be on the opposite side of these things, they really box themselves in and they have nowhere to go. And so they had. They were dead in the water. And the only momentum now that they have clearly are with these socialists. And so I don't know that you can put the toothpaste back in the tube. I think that they have kind of kowtowed to these people for far too long. And unfortunately, their party is in a complete and total mess because of it.
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B
Do you think that ultimately pushes guys like Fetterman and maybe Josh Shapiro to the Republicans, like, for those two, I could see, I can see the move. I can't really, I can't see it for, you know, let's say Newsom and Ro Khanna and the rest of the others. But for a couple of the guys, I can see a pretty. I mean, it's what I did 10 years ago. So I can see a pretty easy transition for those guys.
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Yeah, I mean, they're the crazier things have happened. Jim justice of West Virginia was a Democrat, now he's a Republican. You know, you have multiple situations where this has happened before, and it's because if you look at the policies of the Republican Party right now, a lot of, like, Bill Clinton era Democrats would become, you know, they look like Republicans today. It's crazy how far that party has shifted. So, yeah, potentially now you ask people like Fetterman, would he ever, you know, kind of switch parties or anything. He says, no, no, no, I'm a Democrat. I'm a Democrat. But he's a Democrat of a different era. He's not a Democrat of today's Democrat Party. And I think that's what a lot of the country is gonna have to grapple with. You know, we have. As we're talking about these midterms coming up, you know, people really need to look at what these people are proposing for America. Don't blindly vote for a party just because that's the party you have always voted with. You really need to take a serious look at what they want to do. And again, their policies really just completely erode our society and take America in a really frightening direction. And I think that most people, if they're being honest, I mean, look, you look at polling, Dave, most Americans do not believe that socialism is the way America should go. So with that in mind, I think that's something else that we have to be very vocal about as we head towards November.
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B
Yeah. Unfortunately, there's just no adults in the room with these guys anymore. And here we are. Let me ask you something. And I sort of know the answer to this. Cause I knew. Well, I knew Don Jr pretty well in New York from before politics, and I knew Eric a little bit before politics. But how personal does what's happening in New York City feel to you guys? And I lived there for 20 years before that. My grandparents and great grandparents, we had fam at one time. We traced my family back to 1920s. We had almost 100 family members in New York City. Wow. I have one cousin in the five boroughs left. That's it. And it's partly because of migration and people move on. But how personal is it to you what has happened in New York City? I mean, that name behind you, it was all over the skyline. It's still in some places, not as many.
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Well, I would say that. Look. Donald Trump and the Trump name transformed the skyline of Manhattan. And I would say that New York City made Donald Trump and our family really who he is and who we all are. And so it is very personal. And it's so upsetting to see a city that. I mean, gosh, I remember, Dave, when I moved to New York City, I moved in 2008. I got in my car from Wilmington, North Carolina, by myself. Drove alone 13 hours. Cried the whole way, by the way, terrified, you know, all the things. But I said to myself, I'm going to the greatest city on Earth. And, you know, the whole thing. If you make it there, you can make it anywhere. And it's just a different place now. And I don't know that the same way that I thought about it back in that time will be able to be said by people in the future. And so it's really sad to see. And I think no one wants to see New York City come back more than Donald Trump himself. It's why he's been willing to sit down with mom Donnie. It's why he has extended an olive branch to a certain extent to say, like, hey, if I can help in some way, I'm here to help. As president, he loves New York City. Our entire family does. At the time I lived in New York, I thought it was the greatest place on earth. And sadly, you can't say that these days.
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B
So like so many others, you guys did the migration down here to Florida. Do you sense that if we can't heal this stuff, that it's just gonna be the states kind of subtly or softly going their separate ways, that if you live in Florida, it will just fundamentally be very different than if you live in Cali or New York? I mean, that's already happened in some ways.
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Yeah, no, that's what I was going to say. I feel like it already is, unfortunately, because people who can move have moved and typically they have taken their, you know, their voting and their policies and the way they view life and the way you should live life with them. And those people, sadly, who don't like the way things are going in places like New York, Illinois, California, who are stuck there, I feel horribly for. But look, businesses leave, people with the ability to leave have left and they are continuing to leave. It's why you've seen, you know, congressional seats lost in New York and California over the past several years. Guess where they've been gained? Florida and Texas. Because people just don't want to live like that. But I, I think that's inevitable. I think that the, the more people who get fed up with it, they're going to leave and they're going to take all the way they want to live life with them. And that's, that's just sadly how it's gonna be.
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B
How do you balance. We talked about this once before, a little bit, but I'm curious if your answer has changed at all. How do you balance some of the mommy part of this, that you're raising kids as a public figure, father in law, is the President of the United States trying to inoculate them from some of the woke stuff? I mean, it's a lot of Things obviously, being a businesswoman outside of all of that TV personality. There's a lot going on here.
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A
There's a lot going on here. There's a lot going on.
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B
There's a lot going on.
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A
There's a lot going on. You know, it's.
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B
And you got those killer freaking abs. I see them on Instagram all the time. Come on.
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A
Thank you. You know, it's funny because the first term, obviously my children were both born whenever my father in law was in office first term. And so we didn't have to think about this. But it has been different this time because they kind of understand what's going on. It's been fun though, because we've been able to take them to certain events and experience, expose them to, to parts of history that I think are really amazing. And now they'll have a memory of it. They'll actually have a memory of their grandfather as President of the United States. But you know, for, for the two of us, for, for me and Eric, I think it's been really important to just raise them like normal kids. I mean, my kids right now are in a very standard summer camp. My kids, you know, I, I try to ensure that they play all the same sports and they're in, in all these different teams and gymnastics and this, that and the other, as every other kid. I don't want them treated differently. I want them out there making friends, doing normal kid things. You know, to live in Florida is the greatest because, you know, your kids can just basically be outside all the time. I think that's how a lot of us grew up. And so we do the best we can. But look, the inevitable questions come up. The inevitable, oh, my friend's mom says this about Grandpa, you know what? And I. You just have to do the best in the moment and be as honest with them as you can. And you know, time will tell. Check back with me in 20 years. I'll let you know how we did.
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B
I feel like you have some sort of remedy for the mosquitoes in the summer down here. I feel like you have some sort of special mom thing. Do you? It's probably worse in Miami. You're a little further north than us, but do you got anything? I feel like you must have something.
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I would, I would love to say I do. It's just you got to keep moving. When you stop, that's when they get you. If you're on the run, then they can't get you. So I just try to keep moving. Continual movement. And it's harder for Them to get you. Yeah.
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B
You guys also do a ton of charity work and you raise funds for all sorts of things, mostly, as far as I understand, for pediatric cancer. And I've been to some events with you. What's the latest over there? What can we do to help? We'll put some links down below.
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That's so nice. Yeah. Well, curativity is the foundation. And it once upon a time, started as the Eric Trump Foundation. And we have donated tens of millions of dollars through all of these incredible events we host throughout the year to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. And, Dave, you know, you've been so generous to come to our events. Thank you. I don't think there's a more important cause out there. You know, the words, your child has cancer are probably the most terrifying words that any parent can ever hear. And we want to live in a world where no parent ever hears that. And so we've built out an ICU and surgery center at St. Jude. We now have an entire floor that we just dedicated. Gosh, three or four months ago, we were there in Memphis to open this entire floor. It's where every child will pass through as they enter the hospital, as they're being treated at St. Jude. And listen, I think it's one of those things that I have to give full credit to my husband for. At 22 years old, he had this idea that life had been great to him and he wanted to give back. And so he started this. And, you know, here we are 20 years later. Actually, this is our 20 year anniversary, and it's been incredible.
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B
Yeah. Is that the crazy part to you that, you know, they say all these things? I mean, I know you've been through this for years, so probably not at this point, but like, they say so many things about the family and everything else. And, you know, I was at a curativity event at Mar a Lago, and both of you spoke, but it was just like, how can we help people? And we're here to raise funds to help people, and you've raised an awful lot of money. If I'm not mistaken, Tony Robbins bought one shoe for, I think 500,000 dol that night. They were selling a pair. He's so good. But they were selling a pair of the Trump shoes.
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A
Yes. The gold ones.
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B
And I'm sitting. I was literally sitting next to Tony at the. I don't even know that he would want this told, but he's such a great guy. I'm going out on a limb here. They wanted to sell the pair for like 250,000. I think he bought one shoe for like 450 or 500 and let someone else buy the others almost a million dollars for literally a pair of shoes. Like, that's just. And of course it's like it's not about the shoes, but that they say all these crazy things about you juxtaposed with what you guys are actually doing. It's just a strange reality.
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A
No, it's crazy. And that's the thing that I think most people who have never found themselves in a position like this can't fully appreciate. There's so many people out there. My gosh, you see it. A lot of it. Dave, as we're in this moment right now, this Charlie Kirk pre trial hearing has just, you know, ended last week. And. And I keep thinking about all these crazy conspiracy theories thrown out there. All it takes is one person to lie about you one time out there, and those people who hate you are gonna grab onto that and run with it. They don't care whether it's true or false or whatever or how damaging or hurtful it might be to you. And sadly, that's the reality of the era. We're in with clickbait and people really just not caring how damaging or defamatory something they're saying about you is out there. And then, you know, once you're kind of on the public space and a public person, then the onus is very high to. To prove that there was malice and take it to a court of law. And so you live in this world. But I'll tell you, you know, as you know, we all have found that it really doesn't matter what people say about you out there. Those who really know you are are the opinions who matter the most. And we are surrounded by incredible friends and family, and we're so lucky to have all of them. And ultimately people can say all the crazy things out there. We'll still keep raising money for kids with cancer. We'll still keep saving dogs. We'll still keep doing the right thing every single day. So they can say all they want.
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B
You, you mentioned our friend Charlie. Are you. Are you surprised about how a certain portion of the right, particularly the kind of very online portion, just went so crazy after his assass Nation?
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A
I mean, I'm. I'm so disappointed, you know, I'm so disappointed in so many of these people because at one time we. We considered a lot of these people to be our friends, Dave. And, and to hear some of the crazy. Yeah, I mean, to hear the crazy stuff out there, it's just. Honestly, it's so disappointing and it's so sad and it's. It's kind of mind boggling that not only are these people saying this when they know it is just. Is false, but then the. The group of people who are listening and buying into it. And people have asked me questions. People in my own extended family are like, well, did you hear about this? Is that true? And I'm like, oh, my gosh, you guys, like, take a second. So it's, it's so I. I find it disgusting and I find it really sad that people feel like they need to go to these lengths to, I don't know, stay relevant, stay. You know, again, the clickbait stuff, I guess it's what everybody lives for.
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B
What do you think we can do to heal some of that before the midterms? Cause putting aside, okay, so people want fame, they want money, they want clicks. Okay, fine. But as we both agreed earlier, if the Republicans are gonna win the midterms, like, you gotta get everybody out there. We need. I mean, Tucker has said he's left the Republican Party and is starting a third party. I don't know that that's true, but that's what he said. You know, obviously there's the candidate stuff, but they have a certain amount of people. What do you think we can do? What do you think we can do to kind of bring some of those so that we don't end up in a terrible situation in November?
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A
Yeah, I mean, I think that it would require a level of honesty on everybody's part and maybe some humility to say, like, hey, maybe we got out ahead of some of this stuff. Maybe it was a little too much. I would love to see everybody coalesce around supporting this country and fighting for America, because at one time that was sort of what we all did. Right. And I don't know where we kind of got sidetracked or exactly why, but I would love for everybody to come back under this one big tent and be part of the team and let's all fight for victory in these midterm elections. I am all about forgiving, you know, wrongs that people have done or, you know, if people say, hey, maybe I made a mistake, I think we should all allow them a little bit of grace. But I guess that would. That would be up to them if that's something that they're willing to do.
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B
You know, you just mentioned big tent, which is probably the phrase I say more on the show more than anything else. Because I love the fact, I mean, the thing that allowed me to eventually move to the Republican Party was that MAGA was big tent. So I could be a little more of like the Bill Maher style liberal in maga. And it fully makes sense. One of the things I've noticed lately is the Democrats, as the socialists come in, they keep saying, we're big tent, we're big tent. But it strikes me as something very different. It's like they're here to ruin the tent. Where MAGA expanded a tent that made sense. What do you think the secret to the MAGA tent is? To hold so many people that have in other ways, competing interests and beliefs.
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I mean, I have to give credit to Donald Trump for that. You know, this is a man who at one time was a registered Democrat, you know, like yourself, you know, and so when he decided to run for president, I think he really thought, and I remember sitting down and having a conversation as a family where he said, look, look, I'm gonna do the right things for this country and I'm gonna do what I think is necessary. And if that means I only get one term in office, that's okay with me because it will mean I've, you know, at least I'll have been true to what I believe needs to happen. And I think he's always kind of approached it from that perspective. And so the idea that, you know, certain groups of people should be excluded from the benefits of a capitalist society and the conservative values that have really allowed our country in so many respects to thrive for 250 years, he why should anyone be left out of that? Everyone is welcome. My favorite is, you know, Dean Phillips, who ran as president on the Democrat side of the aisle, decided to go to a MAGA rally one day. There was a Donald Trump rally right down the street from an event he had while he was trying to run. And he says, you know what, Everybody was so welcoming to me. They were like, come on in and I'm running as a Democrat for president against Donald Trump. And they all welcomed me in. That is the whole vibe of maga. Everybody's welcome. You can make a decision at any time to come on over and we'll welcome you with open arms.
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B
You know, I'm gonna, I'll text you the clip when we're done. But a couple years ago I was on Club Random with Bill Maher and when he was, you know, still, this is before he had, you know, dinner with your father in law and all that. And I said, bill, where do you Think you would be more welcomed a Trump rally or an AOC rally. And you can literally see his brain, like shift. Cause he was like. Cause he basically was like, oh, shit, you're right. And I think that I'd like to believe that hopefully pushed him a little bit more towards, you know, kind of where we'd like to see him, perhaps.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
What else is. Like, when you're doing your show, every. What else is on top of mind? Like, what do you. How do you decide to, you know, pick a topic? Or is it your producers throwing it at you? Is it what you're just kind of feeling that day? Like, what's your thought process on that?
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A
Yeah, I mean, we all collab, we all talk about, you know, certain topics that, you know, we feel like is great for the country to hear about. And I think my show, especially my show on Fox, is very unique because it gives you, I think, a more in depth look at people or places or, you know, functions of our country that maybe people miss. Oftentimes that, you know, the rapid pace of the 24 hour news cycle these days, things are just moving at lightning speed. And so, so I've really enjoyed being able to kind of pull the curtain back a little bit for people and find out, well, okay, who is this person, you know, who is running this part of our government or who is this person who is, you know, wants to run to become part of our government and how does all of this work? And so for me, it's been a really cool process and I feel like I've learned a lot along the way. And so obviously we try to stay with topical things, but sometimes we go with what feels fun. And we did a lot on Beagles not too long ago, which I love.
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B
And I know you are a true dog lover because you basically almost took my dog home last time you were here.
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A
It's true. I may be coming back.
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B
You are not making it up. Do you guys ever think about, do you have time to ever think about what life will be like in two and a half years from now when President Trump is no longer president and hopefully wraps up a very successful last two and a half years and all that stuff, when just some of this stuff shifts away a little bit? Do you ever think about that?
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A
I mean, to be honest, not that much. Every now and again I catch myself kind of looking to the future, but it feels like I wanna be very present in the moment because, I mean, gosh, who gets to say that they have this front row seat to history? I feel so honored to be part of this family, to have been alongside my father in law, you know, since the day he came down the golden escalator in Trump Tower and witnessed so much. And just to be an American right now in the midst of all of this, it's so fascinating. And so I'm honestly still just trying to take in what's going on right now. But listen, we're game for anything. I think the unique nature of who we've become as a family is that, you know, we've had some really great times and we've had some really bad times and we've had a lot thrown our way. And I think for all of us, I can honestly say that it does not matter what gets thrown our way in the future. We are all so prepared and ready for anything, and we can weather any storm, especially together. And I think it's made us a tighter family unit the past, you know, 11 years or so. And, you know, whatever the future holds, I think we're all ready.
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B
All right, so we did family, we did politics, we did animals, and we did charity. So let's talk about fitness for a little bit because I've been on quite a run myself. I don't know if you saw or heard of Clitel, but I. Well, I dislocated. The fitness thing's been good? No, no, no. I'm feeling good, but I dislocated my AC joint, my shoulder playing basketball right before I turned 50. It's been a. I got a crazy bone here. You probably can't see it. My collarbone's like, sticking anyway.
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A
Oh, no.
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B
Talk to me about fitness. You're putting up all these videos all the time, and you've got your brand and everything. Like you're, you're trying to, you know, we're, we're of a similar age. You're trying to, you know, like, do the. Can we do we call it middle age? What do we call ourselves?
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A
I'm not calling it that. I'm just calling it. I'm just living life.
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B
Yeah, okay. All right. But you're out there, you're working out all the time, you're stretching, you're doing Pilates, you're doing all this stuff.
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A
What do you mean I'm not stretching enough? I'm definitely not stretching enough. I'm not sleeping enough. I'm not stretching enough. Enough. You know, I, I just like to feel good. And I'm so grateful to my parents who both raised me with. They were great examples. You know, my dad is almost 80 years old. And my dad still plays full court basketball in North Carolina. Okay. So, yeah, so this is, I mean, yeah, you guys could get down. I know.
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B
Yeah.
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A
After you're, after you heal up.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But the, the example my parents set for for my brother and I was really incredible. And it's kind of lent me to this space where my entire life has been just kind of a big fitness journey. And I love working out and I love trying new things and I love challenging myself. And so whether it's in triathlons, marathons, you know, these high rocks competitions, which I just started getting into, I just like doing all the things and staying in shape feels good. And I've done it my whole life and so hopefully I'm passing it on to my kids. I will say this, this Eric Trump is in pretty good shape right now. And I don't want to take any credit, but I'm just saying after knowing me for a little while, maybe it rubbed off. I don't know.
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B
What do you got him doing right now?
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A
Well, he got himself doing it, which is the key to anybody out there for your spouse or significant other. My advice is the second you start pushing them in that direction, they're going to go the opposite way. So I just kind of like let him figure it out. But look, he's like really into lifting weights and eating healthy and, and just generally moving. And I think that that's basically how everybody needs to start. You know, it doesn't have to be this overwhelming, like, oh, I can never do all of those things. Just get out and move. Go for a walk with your kids, go for a walk with your dogs. Just move around, park in a little farther parking space from the grocery store, wherever you're going. Like, that's, that's the basic, you know, starting blocks of, of building up to all the rest of it and, and, and then you feel better and get
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B
off the seed oils. As Bobby would tell.
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A
No seed oils. Yes. No seed oils. Terrible.
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B
Laura, it's a pleasure as always. I hope we can do this again soon.
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A
I hope so. Thank you so much, my friend.
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B
You got it.