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Dave, what are you doing?
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I'm growing avocados, which is one of the many great things you can do in the free state of Florida. And by the way, on June 11th at the Fillmore Miami Beach, I'll be there with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Ben Shapiro, Adam Carolla and Jillian Michaels. DaveRubin.com events. You know what, guys, it is true that we are growing avocados around here and I think you know what, I'm going to commit right now. We're also growing mangoes and we've quite an extensive garden. I will bring some personal Dave Rubin avocados and mangoes to the show and hand them to audience members. If you join us on June 11th. And yes, hello, this is the Rubin Report. I'm Dave Rubin. It's May 20, 2026 and we've decided to do something very quickly. There was an internal debate as to whether we should do it. I said let's just do it in honor of Memorial Day for the next couple days, guys, until Memorial Day. If you want to join us in Florida on June 11th with DeSantis, Shapiro, Gillian and Carolla, you can go to davin.comevents right now. Tickets are 25% off across the board. You don't need a code. We're doing this quick for Memorial Day. That's it. There will never be a bigger discount or anything else. A Little something for you on Memorial Day and we got a jam packed show. Oh, and before I do anything else, we got a little swaparoo internally over here. So Connor, my trusty director, who is my long, my longest employee, been with me for many, many years, he's been sitting behind that computer for years. He's the one that, as you know, loves guacamole. And I'm always side talking to him over here. He went to a wedding. He's at a wedding somewhere. I don't know where he is. In Colombia. He is in Colombia right now. The country of Colombia. That's where he is. At a wedding. That sounds shady. Okay, we'll find out more about that. But anyway, Phoenix, my executive producer who normally sits over there, who helps me craft the show and everything else, he's running operations right now behind the computer. So anything could happen. Right. Would you say you're a trained professional? Yeah, he's trained. I don't know about professional. We're gonna see. So if there's any hiccups today, we blame Phoenix. It has nothing to do with me. I feel very sharp this morning and I just had some electrolyte water. I'm feeling good. Okay. We got a big show today. It's all domestic stuff really, more than anything else. And we're gonna kick off with something that we talked a little bit about yesterday. But there was a. Well, there were several elections yesterday, local elections, congressional seats mostly. But the big one was this situation in Kentucky and Thomas Massie did lose. And I just want to set this up by saying something that I said yesterday, which is that I've only had nice experiences with Thomas Massie. I've interviewed him probably, I don't know, six or eight times. When his son got married not too far from me in Florida about two years ago, he said, I'm going to be in town. I went out to dinner with him with a couple other people. We had a great time. So I've never had a problem with him, you know. No, it's different than that. I've always had good experiences with him. I like a lot of the libertarian stuff. I would say in the last year, because he's gone so anti Trump, we kind of went our separate ways, let's say, But I never attacked him or anything else. But all that being said, I did not want him to win this election and he did not. That we all care so much about little congressional elections in Kentucky maybe is a bigger condemnation of how American politics and the culture war has gone. But anyway, let's get you caught up here from polymarket. Polymarket predicts that Ed Gowering, who is of course the Trump endorsed candidate, defeated Thomas Massie in the Kentucky 4 Republican primary. That was at 99% chance. It is now 100% chance. Clay Travis pointed out on the Twitter machine, Ed Gallerin defeats Thomas Massie in Kentucky 4. Trump goes 3 for 3 in his target primaries, Indiana state senators, Bill Cassidy in Louisiana and now Thomas Massie in Kentucky. And it is worth noting, I saw this yesterday, we just threw this image in Donald Trump's last 37 endorsements. He's 37 for 37. Now, some of those were locks, some of them barely had opponents or anything else. But the point of showing you that is that for all these people screaming online, there's this disconnect, oh look, I've got my van, man, I just lubed up my lips and I left it on the table there. You gotta warn me about that. For all these people screaming that MAGA's fracturing or that Donald Trump doesn't understand the base anymore, it's just this very online people stuff. It just simply is not true. Massie was wildly against Trump on many, many things and the people of Kentucky voted the way they wanted. It's also worth noting that Massie, because he wasbecause he's a libertarian, so he never wants to use the power of the state. And I'm sympathetic to that in an intellectual sense, not in a real world sense, but because of that he found himself with very, very strange bedfellows. He was endorsed by CAIR, he was endorsed by CodePink RO, Jack Dorsey, formerly of Twitter, the Quincy Institute, Joy Behar, Jasmine Crockett, a whole bunch more. The Atlantic, New York Times, Rashida Tlaib, David Hogg, like the aclu, Hasan Pakman, the worst of the worst on the left were endorsing this guy on the right. And that should tell you something because, so you might say, well, why would they, why would a bunch of progressives endorse the libertarian and want to take out the Trump backed candidate? And of course the reason for that, it has nothing to do with liking Thomas Massie or that suddenly all these big government progressives are for limited government, but they know that he would not have voted with Trump on certain things and they want to do everything to stop Trump. So for me, in a case like this, putting aside whether I agree with Massie on some things or I agree with Ed Gallon on things or whatever, that's kind of secondary to what everything that we Talk about every day on this show is leading up to which is the midterm elections. And Trump needs as many Republican congressional seats that are going to vote with him as possible. And now he got one. So that's what I saw most. If you thought my analyzing that was okay, I think here's JD Doing a really nice job on what had sort of happened with Massie as it relates to voting for Republican beliefs, especially in the face of radical Democrats.
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I think the problem with Thomas, and I've told him this in private and now I guess I'll say it in public, is it's one thing to disagree with the party on a particular issue. It's one thing to take, you know, to take to have your independent stand on a number of questions. And by the way, some of the stuff where Thomas Massie has been independent against the Republican Party, I've agreed with him with Thomas and I worked together during 2023 where I was trying to stop the limitless flow of America money to Ukraine. And Thomas was one of the people I was working closest with it. But that's one thing. Being independent, having your own opinions is one thing. Voting against the party on every single issue, you're eventually going to make too many enemies. And that is the problem that Thomas has had. It's not one issue. It's not three or four issues. It's that every time that we've needed Thomas for a vote, he has been completely unwilling to provide it. That is why the President of the United States has trained his ire on Thomas Massie. It's because we can never count on him for some of the most difficult votes. I wish that that weren't the case. I say that as somebody who's known Thomas well before I got into politics, but politics is politics. And when you always vote against the party, you can't expect the party to actually back you.
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So it's worth noting that as you probably saw in the corner there, that was from October of 2025. So the Trump Massey fight was going on for a while. That's also a great example of what I always say about JD Trump bumper sticker stuff like, Thomas Massie's a loser. Okay. And then JD really explained it right there. Politics is a strange game. You can have your beliefs, you can have your ideals, you can have your political philosophy. And then there's a game that is being played and you have to figure out how to manage coalitions. You got to figure out who your allies are and everything else. And that's why I think What Massey's real mistake was, was in the last few days, as all of these progressives were coming in and supporting him, maybe he needed to explain to the average person of Kentucky in his district why he doesn't want their support. I'm a libertarian. That doesn't mean I want this progressive support. So I know people are trying to make huge judgments on this election, but I would fundamentally say that this is just further proof that Donald Trump has a lock on MAGA more than anything else. And as JD pointed out, JD doesn't. I think JD's really taking the same tack that I'm taking there. He's saying, I like a lot of his stuff, but it is what it is like. Politics is a tough freaking game. Let's not forget Thomas Massie and I were on the same side during the Republican primary supporting DeSantis. Right. He then decided he was gonna go all in and try to break Trump. And at the end of the day, it's politics and Trump needs allies. JD understood that. I think explained it quite well. All right, let's put that down for a second. We'll talk about Angel Studios for a moment, then we'll get to more. It's a domestic politics extravaganza today. Memorial Day has a way of reminding people what really matters. Family, freedom, sacrifice, country. And whether you agree on everything politically or not, many people feel we've lost touch with those values in modern entertainment. That's one reason I've been watching films from Angel Studios. They're making movies and shows built around resilience, service, perseverance, and the values that help shape this country. Films like Something to Stand for with Mike Rowe, Indivisible Green and Gold and Homestead are the kind of stories that with you after. Right now, angel is running Memorial Day sale with a big discount on memberships. And if you go premium, they'll give you two free tickets to every theatrical release, including young Washington coming July 3rd for America's 250th birthday. So if you're looking for entertainment that feels a little more grounded, go to angel.com rubin and check it out. All right, so there's a lot of differences between the parties these days, right? The Democrats, it's obvious they've gone full socialist, if not commie. And the Republicans, I would say, are basically pretty good. Closing the border, trying to expose fraud and clean up some of the mess of a four year presidency that we still don't know who was in charge. We have a little update now on something that the government is doing perhaps to make sure that we will not have the type of weaponization in government that we had during the Biden administration when they were quite literally going after grandmas because of January 6th. Listen to this from NBC. The Justice Department announced Monday that it was establishing a 1.776 billion dol anti weaponization fund after President Donald Trump moved to dismiss a $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over his leaked tax returns. Justice Department officials announced that Trump and his co plaintiffs would drop their IRS lawsuit as well as other claims of damages in connection with the 2022 search of Mar? A Lago, his Florida home, and in connection with the Russia collusion scandal, in exchange for creating the fund, which the Justice Department said set up a systemic process to hear and redress claims of others who suffered weaponization and lawfare. The massive fund would give January six rioters pardoned by Trump a mechanism to seek taxpayer payouts for their claims of government overreach. The fund could even issue formal apologies to people who made claims against the government. The announcement said the fund will stop processing claims by December 15, 2028, about a month before Trump's second term is set to end. The $1,776,000,000 available for the fund, that's a lot of money and a good number was based upon the projected valuation of future claimants claims, according to the Justice Department. So there's something a couple interesting things here. So you understand what happened here. Trump obviously has been trying to sue the government over what we now know was obviously a politically motivated raid at, at his home. Okay. He is now dropping that. He's saying I am dropping that so we can move forward so that the average person, the grandmother who showed up on January 6th and had her life turned upside down, or just these people that I'm not talking about the people that broke glass. And if you did something violent or didn't somebody poop on Nancy Pelosi's desk, I'll throw in a little money for that guy. But the people that actually did something fundamentally wrong if you assaulted a police officer. And by the way, it's very confusing as to what really happened that day because we now know that there were feds involved. We've seen videos of people moving the barricades out of the way and encouraging people to go into the Capitol. We also know that you, you know, basically anyone can show up to the Capitol at any time. These, I mentioned Code Pink before. These wackadoodle communist leftists who supported Massie, they wander around the halls of the Capitol all the time harassing people. So there was obviously a weaponization of the Justice Department that hit back on the January 6th people in insane ways and put people in solitary confinement and everything else. Trump saying, I will forego my lawsuit. I don't need a dime out of any of this. And we are going to try to take care of the people whose lives have been turned upside down. That seems very, very just and an effective use of government. Here's Trump being asked if people who committed violence against officers on January 6 will be eligible for compensation. I have a question on weaponization. Do you believe that people who committed violence against Capitol Hill Police officers on January 6th should be eligible for compensation from this DOJ fund? And are you or your family members going to be seeking compensation from that fund? It'll all be dependent on a committee. Committee's being set up, a very talented people, very highly respected people. I think it's a committee of five. And again, I didn't do this deal. It was told to me yesterday. They said they're doing something. I do believe there has to be compensation for people that were destroyed. You have families absolutely destroyed. Yeah. And that's just true, guys. Families were destroyed. People were put in jail. Lives were turned upside down. People lost their job. Again, there's a small sliver of people that did something really bad that day, let's say, like, actually committed acts of violence. That was not 99.9% of those people. On top of the fact that the feds are there, I also like the fact that this is not just a monetary compensation, but you also might get some sort of letter of apology, you know, that in some cases would actually be enough, like an acknowledgment that the government did do something wrong that day if they had feds in the crowd that were encouraging the violence, which we basically know to be true. You may remember my interview at the Capitol actually, a couple years back with Jim Jordan, and we were talking about how he saw my name on one of the lists of the people that Big Tech was working with the government to censor at the height of COVID because I said that mandates were coming and the vaccine wasn't working. That was in July of, like, 21, I think, so very early on. And I said to him, well, is there any monetary, you know, can I get some cash on this thing? And he's like, no, no, no, of course you can't. I was like, but they violated my First Amendment rights. I was like, could I at least get a letter of apology? He's like, no, you can't even get that. So, like some acknowledgement, you know, like some acknowledgment from the government. We did something wrong in some of these cases I actually think would go quite far. J.D. vance, you remember about two weeks ago, Marco stood in for Caroline Levitt at the White House press conference. Well, JD did it yesterday. Marco did an incredible job. And JD Again, this is where I think JD really shines. Bumper sticker Trump, JD with all the granular stuff. Here he is talking to Jonathan Karl about this DOJ compensation and who may be able to get it. Should people that attacked the Capitol building and assaulted police officers, should they be eligible? Should they receive money? Should they receive money from this party?
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Well, let me say a couple things about that. First, Sean, I think in some ways the media has misrepresented what this is actually about. This is about compensating Americans for the lawfare that we saw under the last administration. And by the way, anybody can apply for it. Republicans can apply for it, Democrats can apply for it. As you know, the President United States has pardoned a number of Democrats who he felt were actually subject to this lawfare. I mean, if Hunter Biden wants to apply for this particular fund, he is welcome to.
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Was Hunter Biden. Did I miss that? Was Hunter Biden at the Capitol on January 6th. He was probably hopping everybody up with crack cocaine. Get out there, man. That's the point. This is completely nonpartisan and there's a committee that will then look at it, right? So if so, I would really encourage, if any of you were there that day, if anything has happened to you subsequently, if you lost your job, if you were threatened in any way, you know, people unjustly went to jail, a series of other things. Like there is now a fund and there is some recourse that potentially you could have. And if nothing else, okay, maybe you're not going to walk into $5 million at the end of it, but at the end of the day, if you were someone that went there that day to exercise your First Amendment rights and you did not instigate violence or act in a violent way, you know, just getting a letter from the government saying, hey, you know, we're sorry about that, actually on some nice government letterhead, I actually think would beit would be something. The government has wronged us in so many ways. Post Covid January 6th, all that stuff, like a little something would be pretty good. Here's JD With a bit more on how Trump, because he's dropping his lawsuit to go ahead with this we. He will not see a dime of this. 100%. Not a dime, not a nickel, not a penny. Nothing.
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Is a dollar of this money going to the Trump administration? No. Is a dollar of this money going to Donald Trump personally?
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Is a dollar of this money going to Donald Trump's family? No. The people that would get the money are people, some of whom have been prosecuted completely disproportionate to any crime they've ever committed. Tina Peters is this woman who is about to. To get out of prison, thanks in large part to the President's good work in Colorado. This is a woman who, at worst, if you believe everything that the prosecutors said about her, committed misdemeanor trespassing and somebody threw the book at her. This innocent grandmother was going to spend 10 years in prison, completely disproportionate to any misdemeanor trespassing that I've ever seen. Was that fair?
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Is it reasonable for her to get some comments compensation for the fact that she was treated unfairly? I think the answer is yes.
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Yeah, that's completely right. It's like, do you want to throw grandmothers into. Even if. Even if your argument was this woman was completely misguided, she didn't know what she was doing, she had been fallen prey to propaganda, whatever you want to say. You think throwing an otherwise lawful grandmother in jail for 10 years makes sense? It's also worth noting that a lot of the people that ended up in jail, it was because they pled guilty, because the argument was, if you plead innocent and fight it, you're gonna get a much worse sentencing because the Department of Justice was crashing down on these people so far. So in a normal situation, if you felt you didn't do anything or you just wandered into the Capitol and people were there, and whatever you might have said, no, pled not guilty. But they were threatening people with such long prison sentences that people did go to jail who probably in a normal situation, would not have pled guilty. It's also worth noting over 1,500 people were charged for crimes on January 6th, and over 1,000 of them were convicted or pled guilty. Over on CNN. How this woman has one job is amazing to me, but somehow she has two. She's every day with the lunatics of the View, and then she gets on CNN and extends her lunacy. She wants reparations somehow because of all of this. Scott Jennings. Whoopsh, whoopsh, whoop.
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say anybody can apply for it. And, you know I don't think, okay, I'll apply for it. You think I'll get it. Have you ever been unfairly targeted by the Department of Justice? I have been unfairly targeted by this administration, yeah. Have you been unfairly prosecuted by the Department of Justice? Are those the people that are going to be in this? So the answer is, no, you haven't. So the issue is, the question is, has anyone in the history of the United States ever been unfairly targeted by the Department of Justice? Of course they have. And there ought to be just at a top line, a way for people to seek recourse if they have been unfairly targeted. All right, I will give Anna credit. Her Botox looks very fresh there. So that's very nice. But I love the way he's so dismissive of her idiocy. So, yes, you're going to claim reparations. It's for people who were unfairly attacked by the Department of Justice. Not just on January 6th, but anything else. Has the government been coming after you? Anadvar? And then the way they sit there so smug and everything else. And I just, I really, I love it. I love his dismissiveness towards these people at this point. You know, we played a clip two weeks ago where he basically was like, get this kid's effing hand out of my face. Like, he's had it. Whatever they're paying him, he should have quadrupled the salary. We tried to send him a box of chocolates to CNN once just to thank him. Like, it's just completely ridiculous. What they're. No, Anna, you don't try it a different way, Anna. Let's pretend that it was the Trump Justice Department that was throwing people in jail. Let's say a bunch of Democrats try it this way. A bunch of Democrats and wackadoodle leftists and view women showed up to the Capitol and somebody broke some glass and they wandered in and somebody sat at Mike Johnson's desk. You would be screaming if the Trump Department of Justice was going after these people. So all Trump is trying to do is make sure that people who are otherwise not criminals, and it was a little crazy that day are treated fairly and get some restitution from the government. I don't like her. I don't like her at all. Let's talk about Tax Network usa, and then we'll talk about Joe Biden and Barack Obama and their connection to some of this craziness. Do you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns? No matter how it started, the problem's only going to get worse. Penalties grow, interest adds up. And the IRS is already taking action through wage garnishments, bank levies and more. That's where Tax Network USA can help. With over 15 years of experience, they specialize in resolving back taxes and unfiled returns. They've handled thousands of cases and resolved over 1 billion in tax debt nationwide. Right now, they're offering a free investigation call with the IRS to review your situation and create a clear path to get you back on track. Don't wait for another IRS notice or worse. Call 866-68566. That's 866-685-6604 or visit tnusa.com Dave. All right, so let's connect this. This is sort of what I was saying a moment ago. If we just reversed, oh, it was Democrats going into the House or whatever, into the Capitol. Let's try to reverse this and go back to some of the things that led to all of this. And trust me, you'll see why I think this is important right now. Let's not forget former Attorney General Merritt garland back in 2022 saying how he personally approved the raid on Trump's house, Mar A lago, the very case that Trump is now dropping so he can go ahead and help regular citizens get some restitution from the government. There are, however, certain points I want you to know. First, I personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. Second, the department does not take such a decision lightly. Okay, so the attorney general personally sent the feds to the former president's house. And you might say that was perhaps weaponization of government. Now, how now what would make it weaponization of government? Well, what would make it weaponization of government is that the DOJ is supposed to be an independent branch of government. It's not supposed to take instruction from the president. Right. That's the executive branch. They're not supposed to influence what the DOJ is doing because the DOJ is supposed to be able to also investigate them if they've done something wrong. However, you might remember this one, Joe Biden. Well, just go ahead. I don't even need to color it. Go. Good afternoon, Mr. President. Can you tell us, sir Donald Trump
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an impact on the campaign? The preacher, the old man preacher from Poltergeist. Remember that? That was after the raid. And all he's being asked is, is Trump a political prisoner and that he turns so slow and that creepy smile. It's like you think that maybe. And it's. Again, you don't even know who was in charge or what Biden knew, but do you think maybe the Biden administration knew a little bit of something as it pertained to going after Trump at his home? Do we have the picture I just requested? Because Joe Biden. You see Joe Biden now, and it's sad and it's pathetic, but who does he really remind you of? Do you remember the preacher in Poltergeist? Do we have the picture of the pre. We don't have it. We don't have it. We're working on it. I'm pushing Phoenix's limits right here. All right, we're getting you the picture of the Poltergeist preacher in just a second. Oh, there he is. Whoa. Jesus. This is a daytime show. All right. Get rid of that. That was a little jarring, even for me, and I knew it was coming. Okay. God is in his holy temple. Remember that line? Freak you out when you're eight years old. Let's jump over to the Obamas now, because Michelle, you know, Barack's been there. Open up his library. It literally looks like the thing that the Jawas were in in Star Wars. It's just a horrific monstrosity. But he's been making the rounds. Michelle Obama been doing the podcast circuit, basically saying that people don't like black women or we don't listen to them or something. It's like, I don't know. I don't listen to you, I suppose. But here is Michelle Obama, and she does something interesting here. She's starting to realize that calling us all racists doesn't work. So she's moved on to a new little mnemonic trick. Take a look.
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Many of the people who voted for my husband twice, twice. And I know that that's how they feel. It's like, this isn't. This isn't about anything other than. I'm just. We need. We need something different.
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You know, it's a lot of people, so you can't just pigeonhole them and say you just don't care and you're racist or whatever you're thinking. This is an act of. I don't know what else to do. I just wish we had more leaders that were figuring out how to do more for the middle class, for the working folks, and they don't have a way out, and that makes for bad choices.
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God, all these lefties, they are just so muddled. It is interesting that she's acknowledging you can't call them all racist. Right? It's very hard to say that someone was a two time Obama voter and then magically voted for Trump because they became racist. Right. Like that doesn't quite work. And I will acknowledge, I will give her credit for acknowledging that. But then her next argument is basically so they'll do anything, which is in essence they must be pretty damn stupid cuz they'll vote for Trump and Trump's not helping the middle class. Barack Obama, what did you do? Do you think it's possible that. But those two time Obama voters were like, well, look at the economy now because of Obama and he had his Syria red line or he said Iran wasn't going to get whatever it was. He pushed Obamacare on people. He actually did do weaponization of government and they started going after Tea Party nonprofits. That is well known. Like Obama did a whole bunch of stuff under the guise of hope and change and he became the most sort of generic politician ever. So people might have been disgusted with that. And then here comes Trump and it's quite refreshing and different. And Trump's actually done a lot, but at the end that she thinks that it's still the Democrats, it's still the Democrats who will do something for the working folk. And it's like, no, you guys don't. If you wanted to do something for the working folk, you would be cutting taxes for everybody. But at the very least you would create economic conditions in places where Democrats live, often big cities where people would flourish. And instead I don't feel like doing the whole thing right now, but like you guys know what's going on in big cities. And we'll talk about New York in a second. Here's one more from Michelle and she explains that right now, because they're not in power, obviously everything's upside down. If they were in power, country feels
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like it has a hole in it. And it's a little Like a hole in the car. Yeah, like a hole in the car. That we're, that we're messy right now, that we're confused, that we're upside down. That's what it feels like, lady.
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To whatever extent we're messy and confused and upside down is because of you guys. Donald Trump is willing to negotiate with everybody. Donald Trump isn't a far right crazy religious conservative. You know, using your framing, right? He would do anything that would make America great. It is obvious. It is obvious. He will talk to anyone. He will negotiate with anyone, literally yesterday. What did we cover? That Trump RX is now working with Mark Cuban, who was one of the biggest thorns in his side and a total sufferer of Trump derangement syndrome throughout the campaign. But suddenly we're doing Trump rx. Oh, Cuban's got already half, has his own marketplace to lower the cost of drugs. Let's work together. So the proof is in the pudding when it comes to Trump. So if you think everything's upside down or backwards or sideways or crossways or whatever, you think it's because you guys have all burst forth in your final form, which is now socialist, communist, Islamist, whatever, you're blaming the guy that's trying to right the ship and make things more normal. I don't know, have a border. You're trying to blame him for all of the things that you guys did. And this is one of the things. This is why the culture war is so important. Because so many of us that are right leaning, or it's not even right leaning, so many of us that are just roughly sane people, we are constantly told we are racists and idiots and everything else and that we should be kinder, right? So they'll put the January 6th people in jail and threaten them. They'll call us all racists. Very fine people on both, both sides. Russia, they'll do all of the crazy stuff. Then we get a little annoyed and then they tell us that we're the bad guys. This is a really interesting moment. This is a New York Times columnist. He used to be conservative. I don't know exactly what he is right now. David French, but New York Times, you can take it for what it's worth. If he was a conservative because he's at the New York Times, so is what it is. But here he is pointing out that we need to be kind to each other. But now Billboard Barr, who has become not only a sane voice, which he's always been, whether you agree with him or not, a sane voice, but he points out, well, this is not a one side issue here, bucko. The people who lack that sense of belonging, what are some characteristics they share? Well, they're less committed to democracy, for example. They have less openness to being around people from different backgrounds. If you want to heal a lot of what's wrong with this country, actually be kind to other human beings to make them feel like they have a place here and they're going to be less drawn to extremism. Believe it or not, that sounds like it's all happening on one side. It's happening on the other side too. Yes. There are people in ICE who make people who are in this country who have every right to be in this country not feel like they should be here. Absolutely. And there's also people on the left
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So it's not a one. Yeah. It's not a one sided thing. And it's really important because as French made that point, they are less committed to democracy. Do you think the progressives are committed to democracy? They're trying to burn democracy down constantly and pack the courts and change the voting maps and they don't like our founding in the first place and they're not thrilled with the First Amendment and they don't want your right to defend yourself and everything else. They're less open. And what he's saying is they're less open. Meaning he's talking about people on the right. Have you ever been around a bunch of progressives and tried to argue with them, tried to have a decent conversation with them? When is the everyone think for just a second in your own family when you talk to someone who's a progressive and you're trying to just explain something decently, do they seem open to you? Do they seem open? I don't think so. And also be kind. The implication is that people on the right are not kind. How many progressives really are kind? What is that I always say about the progressives? You scratch a progressive and you get something really nasty underneath. Meaning they tell you how tolerant and diverse and lovely and wonderful and open and where all of these things were so great. And if you say anything, I don't know. Did you know that boys and girls are different? Then you see what happens. You see what happens. And now this one is very sad. To me, this is a sad moment on the show today because Harrison Ford often, he's one of the greatest actors of all time. Has he even ever won? I know he won a lifetime achievement award not too long ago, but has he ever won an Oscar for anything? I don't. But we're talking about Han Solo, we're talking about Indiana Jones, Air Force One, the Fugitive. He's been in so many great movies. Wow. He's never won an Oscar. Never won an Oscar. He may. I don't know if we can find this out, but if you took an actor and their total gross of all of their movies, he's got to be number one. Could Tom Cruise maybe. Probably him and Tom Cruise, something like that. Maybe, maybe Tom Hanks. But if you Think of all the Star wars movies. All the Indiana Jones fugitive is freaking awesome. Air Force One he's been in. So anyway, he gave a commencement speech at Arizona State University. And this is where it's so hard, unfortunately, to separate the art from the artist. Now, I wouldn't say he's in De Niro level. De Niro has just. I can barely watch anything that De Niro's in. Harrison at this point. He's 80 something years old. It's not going to stop me from showing the kids Star Wars. There's plenty of other reasons I won't want them to see certain, certain episodes of Star Wars. However, just listen to this endless hysteria. Like this is the message that you're. The angry, dishonest message that you want to give to kids as they're about to go into the world. It's just awful. Need cultural change. We need to extend social justice. We need to respect and elevate the indigenous people that are being marginalized and in many cases killed in cold blood. The world you're stepping into, the world my generation left you, is a real mess. We have an essential mandate to protect 30% of the world's land and sea by 2030 to prevent the mass extinction, the slow, the warming of our planet. Still, despite new science, new policies, we are still losing nature to profiteering, corruption, conflict. So find a place for yourself. Why? Why with that message, right as these kids are about to go into the world, give them something hopeful. Extend social justice. Yeah, you want to keep doing, doing this and you want to keep them thinking that the climate is collapsing. AOC told us we had six years to go 12 years ago. It's all so boring, man. How about you get up there and do what you did at your SAG AFTRA Lifetime Achievement Award speech, which I think we have an image of. We don't have to show you the whole thing again, but he gave this wonderful. You remember this from about a month and a half ago. We showed you some of the speech. He gave this wonderful speech about what it was like to, to have the life that he's had because he followed his passion and did something so incredible and has brought so much unbelievable joy and creativity to quite literally millions of people. Maybe that's what you should have got up there and done at a commencement speech where you're saying to these kids, guys, get out in the world and go do something. Look at me. I don't even know if he went to college. It's completely irrelevant. But look at me. I'm someone who followed my dreams and like, why don't you try that? And he could have given something so inspirational. Instead, he's got them afraid. Yes, let's care more about social justice. That's what they needed to hear. Whatever that even means at this point. And yes, the environment and blah, blah. It's like, come on, man. Why do you guys ruin absolutely everything? Even regarding Henry, you guys haven't seen that. That was a decent movie that he was in. The guy's just been in great movies. Let me show you one more of an actress, which, you know, I don't love doing the. Oh, actors said that this thing we should all. Oh, wait, sorry. Joseph just told me. Robert Downey Jr. You're telling me. So Harrison Ford, if you took all of the. If I'm understanding this correctly, if you took the sum totality of the revenue that all his movies brought in, he was number one until now. Robert Downey Jr. Because of obviously all the Avengers, Iron Man, Marvel stuff. He's been in a zillion of those. He's got another one coming out, Doomsday. I guess it's probably coming out at the end of the year or something. So he has just overtaken Harrison Ford. So Harrison Ford, he's running out of time here, man. And they're done with Indiana Jones. They gotta do one. Can they throw him back in? They're done with Han Solo, too. He's. Can we do a Blade Runner 3? No, that's done. Yeah, sorry. Downey Junior's gonna win this thing. Anyway, here's this actress. I don't know her, apparently. I've been told she's in Dogman, Space Cadet and the Tiger's Apparent, which are all children's shows that my children are definitely not going to watch. We're a Bluey family. That's it. Her name is Poppy Liu. She is from China. So she is from capitalist China. She has come to America to be in children's movies. She is now, I'm sure, a millionaire and very successful and everything else. And here she is explaining that capitalism is the greatest evil. My rant is that capitalism is the greatest evil in the world. But, like, the people that are like, oh, but like, don't you enjoy the nice things? Yes, I do. And also, I would be okay with it if it meant that more people in the world could live without oppression. Like, hello, yes, lady, capitalism is causing oppression. That's why you left communist China, where I'm sure you wouldn't have been as comfortable to say what you think you left that sort of freedom to come to the oppression of capitalist America and tell us we are the bad guys, and you will be rewarded for it. Do you realize how insane that is? These people, these people, these people. Speaking of these people, aoc, Remember, she did tell us the world was gonna end. She's basic. She's done nothing. This is a woman who has become a complete media construct who has accomplished nothing other than, well, Amazon did try to come to New York. It was gonna bring in, I think, about 30,000 jobs. She did stop that. That's her major accomplishment as a politician. She gave a speech at the All Roads Lead to the South Conference. And this is where the Democrats who do not like states rights, they want to send people from the north to educate the people of the south, who obviously must be so backwards. Here's a bit of her speech to make sure that we all understand that Montgomery is not alone, that you all are not alone. Montgomery's not alone. You all are not alone. What she's trying to do is basically say, you backwards. Mfers from the south, we're coming. We're coming down, and we're going to fix your elections. And it's like this is the reverse of how the country was set up. The whole point of federalism is that country states would do different things in some sense. States would act like independent countries, actually. And. And most of the things that would affect your life would be in your local state. And if you didn't like it there, you could go. But they're not happy with that. There's nothing happening to black people in Alabama right now. Nothing bad. But they want you to think there's something bad. They want you to be on the streets screaming about something you don't know. And then they want whatever the norms are of the north, they want to bring them to the South. This is a random X account, but I thought this was quite good. Gina Millan, she wrote, the people who want open borders use bulletproof glass now that they give speeches. For those of you listening on the audio podcast, put that up again on Phoenix. I mean, she is behind some serious bulletproof glass. Listen, I will not diminish the security threat that surround our politics right now and our public speakers and our influencers, especially less than a year since the assassination of Charlie. But it is kind of hilarious. You guys will let in 20 million people. We have no idea who they are, what they're doing when they rape and maim. You actually take their side when they try to block kids from going to college. You'll take their side. When they're out on the streets with terrorist flags, you'll take their side. But you also don't understand the irony of why you might have to stand behind a bulletproof glass. Here is Joe Rogan criticizing AOC and the Dems that they just simply don't. You don't understand the basics around the economy.
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I kind of am. In some weird way, I've become a businessman. But this idea that it's easy to become a billionaire and that these billionaires somehow or another are the problem because they're not paying their fair share is so weird. That that is. That that's a narrative that actually gets pushed through. And we just assume that everybody who makes an incredible amount of money stole it, that they robbed someone. That someone. The only. Like this is a narrative that gets pushed along Democratic socialists, that no one achieves that. I think I literally heard AOC say this recently, that no one achieves substantial wealth without somehow or another victimizing other people.
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And then Jeff Bezos is the obvious counter example, which is like every time you do the one click and the thing gets delivered to you two hours later at the cheapest possible price, saving you and your family a lot of time and money. Should note, the guy that Rogan's talking to there is billionaire tech VC guy, Marc Andreessen. And I'll just tell you a little insider thing. I don't think Marc would mind that much. But when I was building Locals, I tried to get him to invest, and he offered only $10,000, which obviously wasn't going to help us any which way, because I would have had to give him some portion of the company for that. So he. He missed the ball on that one. So they make mistakes, but that's actually the point that these guys, they throw money at all sorts of things, hoping some are going to hit. And guess what? A very small percentage of startups, a very small percentage, a smaller percentage of tech companies survive. Right? So you're seeding things and seeing what works. So you often lose plenty of money. But Rogan's completely right that AOC did say that. Remember, it was just, what, two weeks ago? She was talking about how you can. You can't become a billionaire without stealing from the workers and everything else. It's like Elon Musk, we check the numbers, is currently employing 144,000 people. I'm going to go out on a limb and say zero of them are pissed at Elon Musk. Right. I have two Teslas. Every time I go to the showroom or I go, you know, you go to the mall and they have a Tesla showroom. These are the happiest people ever. They love the product, they love working there. It's so cool. Like everything he's now done with X. You know who doesn't like Elon Musk? It's his former employees, the people that he had to fire at X, because when they fired half the staff because they weren't even doing anything or they were actively trying to undermine the company. But just this idea that if you're in the 1%. And remember Bernie used to rail against millionaires, then he became a millionaire, so started railing against billionaires. The 1% paid 47% of taxes. So what would be the fair share? So every time one of these people says fair share, you know they're a liar and a buffoon. Simple as that. Like, full stop on that. What would be the fair share? 1% are paying 47%. Would 55% be the number? Would 80% be the number? What would it be? Or they'll say something like, you know, if we could, what was it? You know, if we could just. Someone's worth 2 billion, if we could just take a billion of their dollars, we could do all of these other things. It's like that's not all just sitting there in cash, like they're diving in like Scrooge McDuck in DuckTales, that there's just this thing of cash. That would be pretty cool though, if you had a. Do you remember that? Give me the picture of Scrooge McDuck diving into his pile of cash. He had a building with a giant dollar sign on it. This guy was gaudy as hell. But that's not what most of them have. The money is tied up in things. It's also why when they try to tax unrealized gains, they're not real. They're not real. So then you'd have to take money out of other things to pay for money that doesn't even exist yet. Just everything is backwards. We'll work on Scrooge McDuck in just a second. But when this happens, the sane people start leaving. And of course we know that's what's happening in New York City. Here's Fox reporting that Mamdani, he's starting to freak out cuz everyone's leaving. So he had a meeting on the DL with JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon of
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I don't know if Jamie Dimon needs financial or otherwise advice from Dave Rubin, but I would say, Jamie, go. And I would say to all of these people, go. Is it possible you can have a DL meeting with this guy and you can come up with some situation where he's like, all right, well, we'll figure out a way to give you either a tax rebate or not tax you this or give you some exemption or something? Maybe, but he has already. The stage is already set, right? Like, he's already pushed out a ton of people, which means he will need more of your stuff. Think about it this way, Jamie. You know this already, but, like, decent people don't really want to live in New York City right now also. So your ability to get talent there will be more difficult. The average. Let's put it this way. Let's say you had an analyst who's making like a good number, a decent number. Number. You're in your late 20s, you're a financial analyst. I don't know what they make. Let's say they're making about 175,000 bucks, something like that. Pretty nice salary, young person, whatever. Well, first off, apartment prices in New York are bananas. Oh, also there is state income tax. So they're going to lose another 11% or 12% or 13% that they would not lose in Florida, in Tennessee, in Texas, et cetera. There's also New York City taxes. There's also the fact that, that there are terrorists running around who could just take over the streets at any moment. And some people just aren't into that sort of thing. So that really is the problem. Don't help this guy. I would say to everyone, it is very sad to cut and run from New York City. It will come back and from the ashes of Phoenix will arise. But this guy is trying to destroy everything. And those of you who are going to play ball with a half commie, half Islamist. Yeah, you might, it might be okay for a little bit, but you will be prolonging the destruction of New York City. More importantly than any of that, I believe we have a picture of Scrooge McDuck from DuckTales diving into his money. That's right. And then those who were the, who were the three kids in DuckTales that were always on their crazy adventures. It was Huey, Dewey and Louie or Huey Lewis in the news or Huey Wow. You know this one with that Huey, Dewey and Louie. They were always up till God and then they were was tailspin and the gummy bears. Yeah, I watched the Disney afternoon. You think you're better than me? Let's jump over to Texas for just a second because some interesting things are happening in some of their political races right now. This from Donald Trump on truth, the highly respected Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton, an American first patriot and someone who has always been extremely loyal to me and our amazing MAGA movement is running for the US Senate to replace to represent a place I love and won big three times with 6.4 million votes in 2024. The most votes in the history of the state by far. So this is interesting because there has been two people, Ken Paxton and John Cornyn, trying to figure out who is going to be the Republican nominee for Senate in Texas. They are going to go against the Democrat nominee. Who's that guy James Talarinico, who is so left bananas that he made Jasmine Crockett, who we're never going to talk about again, which is just great. He made her look sane. The Democrats went with him and the Republicans obviously cannot lose the freakin Senate seat in Texas to a far left maniac. Here's Ken Paxton saying that John Cornyn hasn't done anything in his years in office and it's been quite a few years in office.
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Look, my message is simple. This guy John Cornyn has been in office for 42 years, since I was in college and I'm 63. He's running for a fifth term, which no one's done in Texas history. And I spent the last 14 months on the road asking one question. What good thing has John Cornyn done? Not just in the 24 years I'm going to give him the whole 42, 42 years that he's been in office. What one good thing has he accomplished? And asking that question in every meeting I've been in, from one person to thousands, no one's ever given me an answer and then I say, look at it. Take any two week period I've been in office, John Cornyn can pick it up and I will have accomplished more in two weeks than he's accomplished in 42 years. We need somebody that will deliver for Texas, somebody that will go fight. And John Corn is not that guy. He is not Ted Cruz. As a matter of fact, he cancels his vote often and he certainly doesn't fight for Texas.
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All right, guys, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Ken Paxton's the most exciting candidate ever. Obviously not. But Trump needed to make a decision here one way or another. One of these guys, I think I said it about a month ago or so ago, one of these guys, I think just needed to just drop out one way or another. And we had to coalesce around one. Trump has made his decision. We already pointed out to you that Trump's 37 for his last 37 endorsements. So Paxton is going to have the base. Obviously, Texas is red. There's weird energy around this crazy Talarico guy. But it is very important that Trump made a decision here because the last thing that you would have wanted is to have these two guys fighting, fighting, fighting, no endorsement by Trump. They hamper each other and then the unthinkable happens, which is that you end up with a senator from Texas who is blue. And by the way, Texas does get bizarrely close. Let's not forget, it was, what, five, six years ago that Beto o', Rourke, a furry, almost beat Ted Cruz. Ted beat him by, I think, 2.3 points or something like that. So anything can happen. Now, a lot of this is also connected to John Thune. John Thune, obviously is the Senate Majority Leader from Oklahoma. And there's something weird around John Thune because every Republican wants the SAVE act passed. Everyone, everyone wants it. And it's not just every Republican. You look at every single poll I saw. What was the CNN poll from yesterday? It was something like 84% of black people, regardless of political party, want the SAVE act passed. People want you to be able to prove who you are to vote. It's low hanging stuff. But here's Thune looking rather upset when asked how he felt about Trump's endorsement over his buddy John Cornyn.
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Given that you've spent months trying to encourage, persuade the president to endorse John Cornyn in the Texas primary, and given that the NRSC has invested heavily to help Cornyn win that primary, how personally disappointed or frustrated are you with the President's decision to endorse Kenny Paxton today.
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Well, I think you all know my position on this issue. I've made it very clear for months now. And Senator Cornyn is a principled conservative. He is a very effective senator for the state of Texas. But I don't. None of us control what the president does. He made his decision about that. That doesn't change the way I feel. And I am certainly supportive. I will continue to be supportive of Senator Cornyn and his relationship. You know, guys, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I know every bit of the difference between John Cornyn, who's been in Senate for, you know, been in government for 42 years, and Ken Paxton. I just don't. We'll find out more as the election gets close. Right? As the general election gets close. We'll find out a bit more about Paxton, obviously. But Cornyn has had a long career. I think it's a fairly unspectacular career. But that's not what this is about. John Thune. John Thune, you're the head right now in the Senate for the Republicans. Get behind Trump. What are you. It doesn't matter. Okay, so you've been friends. You've been friends with Cornyn for a long time, and that's real. And that's a thing. What did we start this episode with? It was JD Vance saying he's been friends with Massie and they agree on a lot of stuff, but also calling Massie out at some point. Jon Thune, it is your job to make sure that the President's agenda gets passed. So I would hope that you'll let this endorsement go. You will realize that Trump still controls maga and you will push for the freaking SAVE act, because if you don't, you are just going to look ridiculous. Here's a simple edit that illustrates that perfectly. Where do you stand on that currently? Would you reconsider getting rid of the filibuster to get it across the finish line? We don't have the Volsi river, the filibuster.
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Given that you've spent months trying to encourage, persuade the President to endorse John Cornyn in the Texas primary? And given that the NRSC has invested heavily to help Cornyn win that primary, how personally disappointed or frustrated are you with the President's decision to endorse Ken Paxton?
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So you get what was happening there? Fafo. Fafo. It's f. Around. Find out. So, okay, you don't have the votes. You do have the votes. If you want to move on this thing, you can make it happen, and we can get the SAVE act passed. But if you're gonna play like coy or you're just not sure what you're gonna do, you're gonna find out. And Trump will endorse people that are not the people you want him to endorse. Just get on the program, man. I don't know what's going on with Thune. Something seems very weird there. But why? You might say, Dave, so what, Trump is endorsing this guy? Thune may be fine and Cornyn's okay. Why can't we just not criticize Republicans? Never criticize someone on the right. You might be saying that. And I would say, well, no, because the Democrats are completely insane. And if they weren't insane, perhaps we could have more of these internal debates right now. But because they've gone full socialist, communist, jihadi crazy, we have to form a strong alliance against them. Do I have an example of that? Yes, I do. Here's Chuck Schumer. And once again, if we pass the SAVE act, which just means that you'd have to have proper identification to vote in a federal election, which virtually every civilized nation on earth has, that somehow we'll be bringing back good old Jim Crow. Right now in Congress, Trump's MAGA majorities are trying to usher in Jim Crow 2.0 by pushing the SAVE act, disenfranchise tens of millions of voters. Up to now, we have thwarted them,
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Donald Trump will not give up in his fight to subvert the elections. And we must be ever, ever vigilant, man. George Orwell would love it. He would love the way they turn. Afraid Donald Trump wants to upend elections by making sure you have an ID to vote. This has nothing to do with Jim Crow laws. Jim Crow laws were laws that were discriminatory. This has nothing to do with race. It's you guys who seem to think black people can't get an id. But I was on four flights last week, New York, Louisiana, back to Miami. I saw black people on Florida plane. Why do I not get an award? Why do I not get yet I see black people on a plane. They're getting on the plane. I don't know how the high hell they're doing it, but they will not stop. Even when these guys lose, they will not stop. As you know, Virginia had their vote to take their6.5 Democrat majority congressional seat map, change it to 10 to 1, which would have been completely insane. The Virginia Supreme Court voted that it was unconstitutional based on their own state laws. The Democrats then suddenly were like, all right, well, we're going to get rid of the judges that did it by lowering the mandatory retirement age to 54, which is I'm going to be 50 next month. That someone would be forced to retire at 54 is completely crazy. But why were they doing it? They were fine with them all working before, but then they didn't do what they want. So they wanted to push out all of these judges, most of whom were in their 60s and perfectly competent and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's Hakeem Jeffries. Timu Obama says they are still not giving up on that 10 to 1 Virginia map with VRBoCare. Help is always ready before, during and after your stay. We've planned for the plot twists, so
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overturn the will of more than 3 million Virginia voters. Now, we're still going to win two seats minimum in Virginia and then we're going to work as hard as we can in advance of 2028 to restore that 101 map because that's what the voters decided would be appropriate moving forward.
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But the Supreme Court of Virginia decided it was unconstitutional. How you guys went about the referendum, I don't think we have to get into the back and forth in legality around that. But remember that you only a 5149 state. Anyone putting aside whether you're Republican or Democrat or anything else, anyone that was remotely fair would say, boy, you know, a state that's as purple as you could possibly get, that their representation should be somewhat close. Six five is pretty good. Maybe if it was, you know, I don't know, we could say 74 would be kind of okay, whatever. But to go to 10 to 1, obviously everyone knows that's not fair. And then of course, subsequently, what happened? Well, you forced Florida. Florida, a place which has received 2.3 million voters, which has a huge, massive, massive amount now, disproportionate amount of Republicans to Democrats. Well, Florida got four more red seats, so congratulations. But it just goes to show that the radicalness of these guys never stops. Everything they do is in the quest for power. They pretend it's in the quest for free fairness. But Virginia had a fair map. It's always in the quest for power, which is also why they want to make DC A state. They wouldn't want to make DC a state if they thought that the two seats, the two Senate seats were going to be Republican or even if they thought it was going to be one to one. But D.C. because it is the seat of power, votes 90% democrat. So they desperately want it to make. They would want to make it a state. Not because it's right or just. Or there's any logical reason. It's completely antithetical to what DC Was founded upon. DC the whole idea was everyone would go, the representatives would go to D.C. do the work of the business, and then go home. You spend most of your time back home. We're doing it wrong now, but the Democrats are flat out saying we want to cheat. We need more senators. We can't seem to get them in elections, Democrat senators. So we're gonna make D.C. a state. Here's Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock on that.
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And not fight to give the people the power for their voices to be heard in their democracy. So we need to pass the Voting Rights Advancement act, which would ban racial gerrymandering, gerrymandering, ban partial gerrymandering or partisan gerrymandering. I think D.C. statehood is what we need, and we ought to provide a path for other territories of the United States, a democratic path, for them to decide whether or not they want statehood. So it would be irresponsible for us not to respond. The court has been reformed before. Term limits. Expansion of the court wouldn't be the first time. I think, given the crisis we're in. Simone, all of those things have to be on the table.
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Guys, you just better listen to them when they say what they're gonna do, because one day they're gonna do it. And then John Doone will be like, oh, my friend, I was so nice to John Cornyn. Oh, but we're in a communist country now. Where is John? Oh, turns out he's in the Gulag next to me. How nice. Like that. How nicely that worked out. I think he misspoke there, Warnock, because he said that he wants to ban racial gerrymandering. That's literally what the Supreme Court just did in Louisiana, and the Democrats are all going crazy about it. You should not have race as a factor when you're figuring out what a district should be. So I think that was either a complete confusion by him or total misspeaking. But then, as I pointed out, why does he want D.C. statehood? Does he think D.C. really should be a state? Or he just thinks it will give them more power? Why would he want to pack the Supreme Court? Is it that he suddenly thinks that something's wrong, that there's some judicial problem that's wrong? With the court that we suddenly need more judges. Well, I suppose you could make that argument. I don't even know what that argument would be, but make that argument. No, he's saying we're not getting results we like. So, for example, the Louisiana decision, we're going to get racism out of gerrymandering. Apparently, he doesn't like that decision. Right. Democrats don't like that decision, even though he obviously just misspoke. So he wants to then pack the court. And what he means by packing the court is get more of our people on it. And again, it is worth noting that 90.3% of DC voted for Kamala. So you don't have to be a wizard to figure out what is going on here. So to wrap this all up, this was very racehorse politics today, right? To wrap this all up again, as I say almost every day, this is about the midterms right now. Trump, 37 and 0 in endorsements. The Republicans just have to remain sane and decent and show law and order. And we're going to close the border. They got to keep moving on deportations. Trump's got to keep doing good things on the economy. We got to wrap up Iran and everything else. But the point is support candidates who will support Trump. You may not like everything that Trump's doing, and you still may be a little Trump deranged. Or maybe you even you still don't like the truth. Social posts or you don't like any of that. But I think we have fairly well illustrated what's going on on the other side. So don't be someone that supposedly it's kind of what John Thune's doing. I'm going to have some principles. So I won't push the SAVE act because I don't want to bust the filibuster or what Thomas Massie did, which is I'm going to have my libertarian principles. So I'll end up voting with the progressives against the president. And it simply doesn't work full circle. J.D.
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vance, I think the problem with Thomas, and I've told him this in private and now I guess I'll say it in public, is it's one thing to disagree with the party on a particular issue. It's one thing to take, you know, to take to have your independent stand on a number of questions. And by the way, some of the stuff where Thomas Massie has been independent against the Republican Party, I've agreed with him, with Thomas and I worked together during 2023 where I was trying to stop the limitless flow of American money to Ukraine. And Thomas was one of the people I was working closest with it. But that's one thing. Being independent, having your own opinions is one thing. Voting against the party on every single issue, you're eventually going to make too many enemies. And that is the problem that Thomas has had. It's not one issue. It's not three or four issues. It's that every time that we've needed Thomas for a vote, he has been completely unwilling to provide it. That is why the President, United States, has trained his ire on Thomas Massie. It's because we can never count on him for some of the most difficult votes. I wish that that weren't the case. I say that as somebody who's known Thomas well before I got into politics, but politics is politics, and when you always vote against the party, you can't expect the party to actually back you.
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You know, I'm just reminded that the first time I think that I ever interviewed Thomas Massie was in D.C. when we had a little studio in D.C. before Rumble even. And I interviewed J.D. right before. And I stood there with the two of them, them for a little bit. And they are friends, right? But what JD Is talking about there is real politic. We all have a set of beliefs, and you got to figure out what's most important in your set of beliefs. But then you also have to map that to. You got to get some wins occasionally. And occasionally, when you have some power, you got to use it. And Republicans tend to be less enthusiastic about using government power. And I really understand, understand that. But to the backdrop of what the Democrats repeatedly are saying they will do if given power. Remember, guys, just imagine if we wake up and it's November 5th or whatever the day after the election, the midterm is, and the Democrats are in charge. Trump is done. Like this whole thing of the last decade, it's done. And America in her 250th year will be hanging on by a thread. So what you want to do is what you want JD Just said right there. And it's why he's an excellent communicator for the bumper sticker stuff that Donald Trump does. You got to take your beliefs, you got to take your principles, and then you also have to couch them within real politics, because that's what politics is. And you don't, I think, want to do what Massie did, which is go wildly against Trump, and then you're going to pay the price for it. And potentially you would have been on the same side side as all of the radical leftists that I think you would normally be against. I think that all made sense. I want to give a special shout out to Phoenix today, because, Phoenix, you did it flawlessly. You know what? We're going to give him a little water at lunch today. Normally, I don't give them water on Wednesdays, but water for Phoenix. Well done, my man. Thank you guys for watching. Post game show 30 seconds. Rubinreport.locals.com Ciao, Sa. All right, post game, here we go. Marcus Frelius says the January 6ers were victims of a totalitarian administration. The media did such a good job brainwashing America that no one cared. You know what's so interesting? If you go back to our show, what time was it happening? Was I live on air as it was happening? No, because it didn't. It started around 1 o', clock, if I remember. I. I'm trying to remember. It was also during the fog of COVID and everything else. Yeah. What time did the riots actually start?
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It started at 12pm at 12.
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Okay. So I was on air. I do my show live at 11. So I think if I remember correctly, if you go back to our show that day, maybe there were. We knew that. Oh, yes, for sure. I remember. I was going to go. I was going to go a few days before January 6th when they announced that there was going to be this big rally and everything. I was like, Michael, my former producer, I was like, let's go. Let's just see what's going on. Michael, God bless him, I'm gonna text him right now. The day before, the day before we were gonna go, Michael said to me, you know, it could get a little wacky. Maybe we shouldn't go. It is very likely that had I gone, I wouldn't have been taking a dump on Nancy Pelosi's desk as much as I'd like to. But it is very possible I would have wandered into the Capitol. Right. Like, all these people were there. I would have probably had my phone in my hand and, hey, it's me, Dave. And look, that's Nancy Pelosi. And I could have ended up in jail. So I should credit Michael for keeping us out. But anyway, as it happened, and I'm sure if you look at my coverage from the next couple days, it was like nothing really happened. It was a little wacky. And now, to the backdrop of knowing that the feds 100% were instigating a lot of this stuff. It really is. And the way the media ran with this and lied about what Trump did, said where he repeatedly said peaceful. I mean, we've just. It's rinse and repeat. Like, we've done these things just so many times. Come Fly With Me says, whatever happened to elevating graduates to be happy, moral and laugh? Make a great life for yourself? Right? That. That's really the point. That's really the point. Like, can you imagine going to a. They do this all the time. Like, can you imagine you go to what school was at Arizona State. You go to. It doesn't even matter what school it is, but you go to college. And now. And now Harrison freaking Ford shows up. Like, to me, that's one of. If you were asking me, like, who are the top 10, like, kind of coolest actors? He's gotta be there. All those great movies, right? Tom Cruise shows up. Any. I don't know, whoever you like shows up. And they could tell you so many cool things, you know, like, he could have told. There's a really cool story, I've seen it on YouTube, that Harrison Ford was not supposed to be Han Solo. He was working for the production company and he. He was actually reading the script to all of the actors that were coming in. He was playing the other characters and they were playing Han Solo. And then eventually, I think it was George Lucas was like, you know, why don't you read for Han Solo? And it's like he. To say he was perfect as Han Solo is an understatement. And actually, in the. In the newer movies, one of the reasons that the last two sucked was he died in the. In Force Awakens. And he, in some sense, was the glue of the whole thing because he was. He was the cool guy. He was the swashbuckler. He was the sense of humor. Right? He had the other piece where a lot of it's very lofty. Oh, the Force. The Force. And he was like the dirty part of it. And without him, they really didn't know what to do with the characters. That's why they all came so stiff and everything. Anyway, sidebar. The point is, there's so many cool things he could have talked about. Talk about what it was like to be. How old was he in Raiders of the Lost Ark? My guess, he was probably 35 in Raiders of the Lost Ark. So tell me about Raiders of the Lost Ark, what it was like to do that at 35 years old? 38. And then how old was he in Dial of Destiny, the one from two years ago? Probably what? He was probably 76. 80. 80. Like, how about you. Talk about that. What's it like to pick up an iconic role 45 years later and have to do some of these things and like there's so many cool things that he could have talked about and about what it's like to be successful. And he married that girl that's very thin from that Ally McBeal show. I don't know. Talk about her. What's her name? I'm working you over there. Calista Flockhart. Calista Flockhart. Talk about her. But no, you're going to tell us that the environment's coming to get you. Boo. Backup never says, oh, the irony. Democrats implemented Jim Crow. If the Democrats only knew why the Republican Party was founded, which was to be founded as an anti slavery party and it was quite literally a fight with the Whigs and how we were going to do this. But I think we're past the point of educating these people. We just have to inoculate ourselves from them. Thank you, Phoenix, once again. Do we have a little gold star or something? Oh, you know, we've got those. Do we have any in here? We're going to give Phoenix one of those little gold chips that we had from St. Patty's Day. I've got a pot of gold from the kids. You're going to get one of those. Thank you. Thank you. More tomorrow.
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Episode: Reporter Gets Angry as His Trap for JD Vance Backfires
Date: May 20, 2026
Host: Dave Rubin
This episode centers on recent political developments, focusing specifically on the defeat of Thomas Massie in the Kentucky 4 Republican primary and the implications for MAGA control within the GOP. Dave Rubin breaks down the internal dynamics within the Republican Party, the ongoing culture war, and the role of coalition-building in modern politics. There are extensive discussions about the fallout from January 6th, the creation of a new DOJ compensation fund, and debates over voting laws, with critical commentary on media narratives and progressive activism. The episode also comments on cultural moments, notable political figures, and the hypocrisy Dave perceives on the political left.
“When you always vote against the party, you can't expect the party to actually back you.” [07:21; repeated at 63:55]
“Is a dollar of this money going to Donald Trump personally? No. The people that would get the money are people, some of whom have been prosecuted completely disproportionate to any crime they've ever committed.” [18:38]
“Just getting a letter from the government saying, hey, you know, we're sorry about that…would actually be something." [17:29]
“What he's saying is they're less open…He's talking about people on the right. Have you ever been around a bunch of progressives and tried to argue with them?” [32:38]
“You can't call them all racist. Right? It's very hard to say that someone was a two time Obama voter and then magically voted for Trump because they became racist.” [27:49]
“Trump has made his decision. We already pointed out to you that Trump's 37 for his last 37 endorsements. So Paxton is going to have the base.” [50:52]
“Voting against the party on every single issue, you're eventually going to make too many enemies. … When you always vote against the party, you can't expect the party to actually back you.” [07:21; 63:55]
“The worst of the worst on the left were endorsing this guy on the right. And that should tell you something.” [05:05]
“Just getting a letter from the government saying, hey, you know, we're sorry about that…would actually be something.” [17:29]
“You can't just pigeonhole them and say you just don't care and you're racist or whatever you're thinking. This is an act of. I don't know what else to do. I just wish we had more leaders that were figuring out how to do more for the middle class, for the working folks, and they don't have a way out, and that makes for bad choices.” [27:21]
“You guys have all burst forth in your final form, which is now socialist, communist, Islamist, whatever, you're blaming the guy that's trying to right the ship and make things more normal.” [29:51]
“...the idea that it's easy to become a billionaire and that these billionaires somehow or another are the problem because they're not paying their fair share is so weird.” [41:59]
Dave Rubin maintains his signature conversational, sardonic, and combative tone, especially when critiquing Democrats, progressive policies, and left-leaning celebrities. His style is informal but pointed, peppered with humor and sarcasm (“Jesus. This is a daytime show. All right. Get rid of that. That was a little jarring, even for me, and I knew it was coming.” [25:35]) and frequent asides. He presents the right as pragmatic, under siege, and focused on restoring sanity and order in American politics, urging unity on the right to counter progressive overreach.
For listeners seeking a breakdown of current GOP strategy, MAGA’s internal consolidation, and scathing culture war analysis—with characteristic Rubin wit—this episode delivers an in-depth, combative, and often entertaining account of the American right’s worldview as the 2026 midterms approach.