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Episode: The Real Reason Conservatives Are Rethinking Ronald Reagan | Presidents Series | Michael Knowles
Air Date: February 16, 2026
Host: Dave Rubin
Guest: Michael Knowles (Host of "The Michael Knowles Show")

Main Theme / Purpose

Dave Rubin and Michael Knowles delve into the legacy of Ronald Reagan as part of "Presidents Week." The conversation explores why conservatives are re-evaluating Reagan’s place in the right-wing pantheon, the nuances of his era, his coalition-building, and comparisons with Donald Trump and current political realities. The discussion ranges from Reagan’s policy successes and failures to his character, oratory style, and enduring influence.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reagan’s Legacy: Out of Favor or Timeless?

• Reagan’s Era vs. Today

  • Knowles opens with the argument that Reagan was perfect for his time but that conditions have changed drastically, making it impractical to recycle 1980s slogans and solutions.
    • “You can't just go back to the same old slogans of the 1980s... the problems have gotten worse.” (Knowles, 00:00)
  • Today’s issues—like massive illegal immigration, the fentanyl crisis, and global threats from China, Russia, and Iran—are on a different scale, requiring different leadership styles and rhetoric.

• Reagan’s Mythic Status and the Backlash

  • Having been largely deified by conservatives for decades, Reagan’s reputation has more recently undergone a “correction,” with scrutiny on his perceived naiveté and controversial decisions, especially with immigration amnesty.
    • “Reagan signed the amnesty…they got the amnesty and we never got the secured border. So there’s been a little correction to the legacy of Reagan, but he really was a great president.” (Knowles, 03:28)

2. Building Coalitions & Changing Parties

• Reagan’s Political Evolution

  • Reagan’s journey from Hollywood liberal and New Deal Democrat to conservative icon provided him resonance with disaffected Democrats—mirrored today in elements of the MAGA movement.
    • “He had that famous line…‘I didn’t leave my party. My party left me.’” (Knowles, 06:27)

• Three-Legged Stool Coalition

  • The “Reagan coalition” united libertarians, traditionalist conservatives, and disaffected Democrats, all motivated by a common enemy: the Soviet Union.
    • “They formed this three-legged stool of the Reagan coalition...because they all had a common enemy.” (Knowles, 08:27)
  • Knowles draws a direct parallel to Trump, who similarly brings together disparate groups on the right.

3. Communication Styles: From Orator to Reality TV

• Reagan as “The Great Communicator”
  • Reagan’s skills—honed in Hollywood and the Screen Actors Guild—allowed him to communicate across divides and “make America feel good and moral and strong again.” (Knowles, 03:28)
  • Trump is cast as a “Reagan for the 21st century”—but where Reagan was “scripted and aspirational,” Trump is raw and hyper-real, fitting the modern media landscape.
    • “Reagan really fit his era...That wouldn’t play today. That would read as inauthentic because we live in this culture of…hyper-real, extreme version of reality TV.” (Knowles, 18:44)

4. The Substance: Policy, Optimism, and Historical Impact

• America’s Resurgence

  • Reagan revitalized the economy out of stagflation, boosted national pride post-Vietnam/Watergate, and is credited for winning the Cold War.
  • Even successes in following administrations—Clinton’s boom—are traced back to Reagan’s groundwork.

• Peak America and the 1980s

  • Dave and Michael reflect on the 80s as “peak America”: optimism, patriotism, racial progress, and prosperity.
    • “In some ways I view it as peak America. Like it was just like it was cool to be patriotic…Racism was not cool. No one hate, like it just wasn’t.” (Rubin, 13:54)
  • Michael acknowledges some “bad stuff” (crime, divorce, abortion), but insists some nostalgia is justified.

• Comparing Eras

  • The postwar consensus meant even Democrats “basically liked the country,” a contrast to today’s polarized climate.
    • “They had to wave the American flag...They wouldn’t go to a rally as they would today, and wave the Mexican flag and burn the American flag.” (Knowles, 22:29)
  • Reagan’s “optimism and aspiration” are seen as out of sync with today’s more cynical, divided society.

5. Notable Reagan Moments & Their Meaning

• The Assassination Attempt

  • Both recall how Reagan’s leadership and humor after being shot symbolized national unity.
    • “I hope you’re a Republican.” —Reagan to his (Democratic) surgeon, who replied, “Mr. President, we’re all Republicans today.” (Knowles, 23:05)

• Famous Lines & Final Legacy

  • “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”
    • Knowles shares how Reagan had to fight to keep that line in his Berlin speech (27:29) and how it epitomized pivoting from Cold War “detente” to a more assertive American posture.
  • Reagan’s farewell and letter revealing his Alzheimer’s diagnosis, showing gratitude and enduring optimism—“America’s greatest days will lie ahead.” (Knowles, 30:02)

6. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Trump is kind of the Reagan for our times. But, you know, Reagan really fit his era.” (Knowles, 00:00)
• “Every good thing that happened under the Clinton presidency, really, you can trace back to Ronald Reagan.” (Knowles, 11:07)
• “The beginning of the information technology boom…just gave an unprecedented degree of material prosperity. The fact that we won the Cold War, we were the undisputed superpower.” (Knowles, 15:48)
• “You can’t just go back and relive the 80s because for some of us, that was our childhood or because we recognize it as a halcyon era. It wouldn’t play today.” (Knowles, 19:39)
• “Ultimately, it didn’t work. Ultimately, the country is worse. Reagan said America’s best days are in the future. That might be true, but today things seem worse than they did 30 years ago. But…I guess the answer…is, he gave us a quarter century, one of the greatest quarter centuries in American history. What more do you want?” (Knowles, 23:51)
• “There was something, as Ronald Reagan said in…‘A Time for Choosing’...you and I have a rendezvous with destiny. And that trust in God’s providence…was really sincere. People thought it made Reagan a kook. In reality, it made him one of the most successful presidents we’ve ever had.” (Knowles, 30:52)

7. Cognitive Decline and the End of Reagan’s Presidency

• Reagan’s Later Years
  • Knowles concedes that signs of Reagan’s cognitive decline likely appeared near the end, but notes Reagan’s major accomplishments continued through his final years in office.
    • “If that's Reagan impaired, give me someone who is demented over the kinds of Democrat presidents we get today, whether we're talking about Joe Biden…or Barack Obama, who had all of his faculties about him, and maybe that was actually worse.” (Knowles, 26:41)

Notable Timestamps

• 00:00–03:28 — The re-evaluation of Reagan, fitting his era, changing conservative views.
• 06:27–08:32 — Reagan as coalition-builder; parallels to today.
• 13:54–15:48 — Reflecting on childhood in the 80s; was it “peak America”?
• 17:30–18:44 — Reagan’s aspirational rhetoric vs. today’s sincerity and cynicism.
• 21:12–24:03 — Shifting party cultures and political civility; the famous hospital story after Reagan is shot.
• 27:23–29:49 — The Berlin Wall speech, Reagan as a pivot from “detente.”
• 30:02–31:52 — Reagan’s final letter, national & religious renewal, “a rendezvous with destiny.”

Episode Tone

Candid, reverent yet critical, with humor and mutual respect. The conversation balances nostalgia and realism, and both speakers exhibit a blend of admiration and historical skepticism regarding Reagan's legacy.

For listeners seeking a nuanced unpacking of Ronald Reagan's shifting place in conservative thought, or interested in comparisons between Reaganite optimism and the present climate of cynicism, this episode offers rich context, memorable stories, and expertise from both guest and host.