Dave Rubin (20:38)

That's where I am. I'm in Jaffa, just south of the south side of Tel Aviv. And we are going into our sixth night tonight of bombardment from Iran. I would say that each night there's been considerably fewer ballistic missiles coming across. None of the drones make it this far. They got shot down. But some of the ballistic missiles have made it through the Israeli defense system. I actually yesterday visited the site of Bat Yam, which is is, as you might know, the large building about 2km south from here that was destroyed on the second night and eight people were killed. And when I was there yesterday, they were still searching for a missing person suspected.

Richard Karn (21:27)

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Dave Rubin (22:29)

I actually saw the Batyam missile. Oh no, have I come out?

Richard Karn (22:35)

We've still got your audio. We'll just throw up a still image if we lose the, if we lose the video connection. You're good.

Dave Rubin (22:40)

So I actually saw the Batyam missile because we wanted to see this. Now we're advised to go down to the shelters when there's a siren. There's sirens regularly, three or four a night. But we stood up to watch the ballistic missiles as they come in and they start as these tiny orange traces and actually not really coming from the east, more coming from above. They kind of, because of course they're going up and coming down and then as they come they get faster and faster and then you see the defense system going up to intercept some. By the time in the ballistic missiles come through they actually traveling at a speed of max 7. It's unbelievably fast. And I saw the missile that hit in Bat Yam and well, I mean I, I think I'm, I'm changed forever having, having experienced that. But I also think that there was a big mood change after batch Yam because so many people were killed and the sense that the missile system was penetrable has affected the mood here. Having said that, I also spoke yesterday to a man in Rishon Lisayan whose house was completely destroyed. Thankfully him and his six daughters survived in the building but two of his neighbors were killed and I, he took me through his house, everything's been destroyed. And I asked him at the end, you know, you've lost everything, even his taxi, because he's a taxi driver, he can't work because it's been smashed apart. I said, you've lost everything. Do you still support the government, your government, in this endeavor, given the sacrifice you've now made? And he goes, look, absolutely, because if this doesn't happen now, then all of Israel will look like my house in two years time. So now obviously this guy supports Netanyahu and the Iranian operation Rising Line operation. It's obviously not the case. Not everyone in Israel feels this way. But it was, it was striking to, to be upfront with someone with that frame of mind and the real mood here, similar to after October 7th. I was here only a couple of months after October 7th, and everyone, whatever their feeling is about the government, understands that they are in an existential situation and they understand that they need to play their part. So everyone gets into their position, so to speak, and contributes. The atmosphere in Israel has really been remarkable. I wish never that such a thing would happen to Britain, but I do wish that my country would come together in the same way that Israel has come together on these separate occasions.

Richard Karn (25:35)

Well, hopefully your country won't have to deal with incoming rockets, although as we've discussed on both of our podcasts before, you guys have a whole other set of problems real quick. And then I want to get into a whole bunch of clips with you and talk about some of the media component of this because you've been talking for even longer than I have. Because as I've mentioned on the show this week, I largely tried to sit out a little bit of what I saw as the fight on the right, except when I did your podcast a few months ago, but you've been talking about this for quite some time, so I want to dive into some of that. But just on a personal note, I know you're there with my good friend who's been on the show a million times, Melissa Chen. You guys were not intending to be in the middle of a war zone. Just personally, personally, what has this been like for you? I mean, you're. I don't know, I assume you're at an Airbnb or a hotel or something. I mean, you're basically stuck for now. Like, just personally, you know, I hear what you say about some of the Israelis, but there's obviously a lot of foreigners that are there right now in the middle of this as well as.

Dave Rubin (26:27)

We'Re speaking now on the foreigners, I just get messaged through that for the first time the airports are going to be open to foreigners to leave, although we've seen a lot of them crossing into Jordan to get out. On a personal level, as I said, I don't think I'll ever be the same. Those first few nights with the sirens going off, everyone going to shelters and hearing the banks, I mean, it's as close. I was brought up in London and very much in the shadow of the Blitz and on the street I live in, in London, there's still a bombshell. My neighbor's got a bomb shelter in his back garden and I know the exact houses that were bombed and I know stories of families, entire families that lost their lives because their houses were struck. The church opposite my house was the first to be hit in the Blitz, so I've got that sense. But it's completely different when you're actually living in it, when you're actually, you don't sleep. No one in Israel has slept for the last seven days when you, you just, you're, everyone is ready to the alarms to go off and for you to go and find one of the bomb shelters. So it's, everyone is kind of in this daze and, and uneasy days and there's a sense of trepidation. Having said that, it does seem very optimistic. As I say, there's fewer and fewer hotels each day. Keep an eye on the number of rocket launchers that are being destroyed in Iran by the Israeli Air Force. It was two days ago an IDF spokesperson said that one third have been destroyed. It's now someone has just reported to me that it's up to 40%. There may be many thousands of missiles. It's not exactly clear. One report said 800, another said 2,000. And others have said way more than that. Even that, that's not clear. But if they can destroy the rocket launchers, that's when they, that's how they defang Iran in this local conflict. Now, I know the conversation in America is a different one. It's one about America first. It's one about how much America should be involved in this. But as I say here in Israel, it's existential and it's quite a different mood.

Richard Karn (28:38)

Right. And the quicker, the quicker that the rockets stop incoming, the quicker that whatever the end game of this thing is will appear. All right, so let's talk about the conversation in America and something that you have been focusing on for quite some time on your podcast, a little bit of what's been going on on the right. And a lot of it does seem to be circling around Tucker Carlson right now, who for the last year, a lot of people think, let's say his motives seem a little strange or his obsessive focus with Israel or the Jews or whatever you want to say about that. Tucker yesterday had Ted Cruz on and I want to show you it's about a minute plus clip of a promo that Tucker put out himself. And then we'll dissect how many people live in Iran, by the way, I don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population. You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple? How many people live in Iran, 92 million. Okay. Yeah. How could you not know that? I. I don't sit around memorizing population tables. Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government. Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million? Why? Because if you don't know anything about the country. I didn't say I don't know anything about. Okay. What's the ethnic mix of Iran? They are Persians and predominantly Shia. Okay. You don't know anything about Iran. So. Okay. I am not the, The Tucker Carlson expert on Iran. You're a senator who's calling. You're the one who play about the country. No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. You're the one who can't figure out if it's a good idea to kill General Soleimani. And you said it was bad they're trying to murder Trump. Yes, I do. Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if they really believe they're carrying out military strikes today, you said Israel was right with our help. I said we. Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, this, you're breaking news here because the US Government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity. We're not bombing them. Israel's bombing them. You just said we were. We are supporting Israel. You're a senator. If you're saying the United States government is war with Iran right now. People are listening. All right, win. I want to be as fair as I can possibly be here. So I will say that Ted Cruz, who I like a lot, was not like, in the perfect way prepared for that because it was fairly obvious that Tucker was going to do the gotchas. How many people live there? And there's no way Tucker knew. He googled it right before someone handed him a piece of paper or whatever. Ted Cruz should have been a little more prepared for some of that. The wee line, he obviously butchered that a little bit. But everyone can see the game that Tucker is playing here because Tucker has put on all sorts of people in the year plus since he left Fox and never pushes back on anyone who says the craziest things. What do you make of what is going on with Tucker and from what you can see while being there, relative to the American media landscape?

Dave Rubin (31:39)

Well, I Think there's a few things happening simultaneously. There's a worldview about the Middle east. That's one aspect of it. And then there's a big reaction against the neocon wars of the naughties, specifically Iraq and Afghanistan and the trillions spent on failed wars. So there's a few things happening at once. I think a lot of people are waking up on the sort of. They're not exactly anti war though. They say they're anti war, but they are anti the neocon. They're very unhappy about the neocon wars. And so funny enough, I spoke to Steve Bannon on my show about this as well, who also thinks Tucker's got this wrong on the axis of evil in the Middle East. And I think this is worth picking up because this is where I think I disagree with Tucker. Now. He's reported to have relations with the Qataris, but which is important in trying to unpack this Iran is to use a sci fi, seeing as you're talking sci fi on your show. Iran is the mothership, right? And then from there you have this axis of evil, which is the Houthis, Herman's Hezbollah. You have. Who else? Have you got it? You've got, I, I guess it's those. And then Qatari. Yeah. And then the Qataris playing a slightly different game. But they absolutely sheltered Hamas. They have been anti Israel, they've purported to be neutral, but actually if you look at their, what they've said, they're not remotely neutral and they facilitated a lot of Hamas activity. It seems to me that Qatar are a part of that axis, but they are play a slightly looser footing and they might change and turn towards the act. The positive allies of the Saudis, the Emiratis, who I think want trade and peace with the west and with Israel. So here's the thing about the America first situation. Some people think America first means don't get involved with anything that's going on abroad. But another thing, and I think this is the interpretation of America first, which is what is the priority of America now in that lens. If you look at what Trump has been saying for 20 years, he has said Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb, they cannot have a nuclear weapon. He's been unbelievably consistent with this and that seems to be completely consistent in my opinion, with America First. Why? Because Iran have said since 1979 and the Revolution, death to America. Consistently, death to America. So it is clearly, and not only that they had tried to kill Trump himself, they have attempted to kill other American citizens. For example, Massey, Alinajad. They tried to kill her in Brooklyn, where she lives. There have been others, including, I just spoke to the former ambassador Michael Oren, who they tried to kill in dc. They are. And by the way, keep an eye on this, because one possible move the Iranians have up their sleeve is to have their sleeper cells around the world activated.

Richard Karn (35:02)

Yeah. Wait, so let me pause you there for a sec because you're making a couple points, but I want to. We have a lot to get to here. So. Yes, also, they funded hamas, which killed 46Americans on October 7th. So it's not as if they haven't killed Americans just in the last two years. But yes, there is some issue around sleeper cells, but this idea that Tucker and Alex Jones are pushing a thermonuclear war. Well, first off, if they don't have a nuke, well, then there isn't going to be. And if they're not going to get one now, then there is going to be. I thought this tweet was quite good. This is from Brent Shear, who's the editor in chief at the Daily Wire. He took a screenshot of that Tucker Ted Cruz clip that we just showed you. He wrote, now Tucker is doing what Douglas Murray did to Dave Smith. If you're not an expert, you're not allowed to have any opinion. Except Ted Cruz is an expert. He just didn't know trivia. Right. Ted Cruz is actually an expert on foreign affairs. I don't think anyone doubts that. Really. He got him on the number and that's very impressive. But now I wanna dive into this tweet from JD Vance. Cuz I thought this was quite good. And again, I'm completely on board where Trump is because as you just pointed out, he's been consistent on this for 20 years and so is J.D. listen to this. Look, I'm seeing this from the inside and I'm admittedly biased towards our president and my friend, but there's a lot of crazy stuff on social media. So I wanted to address some things directly on the Iran issue. First, POTUS has been amazingly consistent over 10 years that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Over the last few months, he encouraged his foreign policy team to reach a deal with the Iranians to accomplish this goal. The President has made clear that Iran cannot have uranium enrichment, as he repeatedly said this would happen one of two ways. The easy way or the other way. Second, I've seen a lot of confusion over the issue of civilian nuclear power and uranium enrichment. These are distinct issues. Iran could have civilian nuclear power without enrichment. But Iran rejected that. Meanwhile, they've enriched uranium far above the level necessary for any civilian purpose. They've been found in violation of their non proliferation obligations by the iaea, which is hardly a right wing organization. It's one thing to want civilian nuclear energy, it's another thing to demand sophisticated enrichment capacity. And it's still another to cling to enrichment while simultaneously violating basic non proliferation obligations and enriching right to the point of weapon, weapons grade uranium. I have yet to see a single good argument for why Iran needed to enrich uranium well above the threshold for civilian use. I've yet to see a single good argument for why Iran was justified in violating its non proliferation obligations. I've yet to see a single good pushback against the IAEA's findings. Meanwhile, the President has shown remarkable restraint in keeping our military's focus on protecting our troops and protecting our citizens. He may decide he needs to to take further action to end Iranian enrichment. That decision ultimately belongs to the President. And of course, people are right to be worried about foreign entanglement after the last 25 years of idiotic foreign policy. But I believe the President has earned some trust on this issue. And having seen this up close and personal, I can assure you that he is only interested in using the American military to accomplish the American people's goals. Whatever he does that is his focus. Wizen, I gotta tell you, I mean, I don't know that that could have possibly been written any better at any level. He addressed everyone's concerns there. All of the people who you rightly point out, they're tired of the endless wars and the regime taking out regimes and nation building and all of those things, but also showing that Trump has been consistent and that Iran was not abiding by their obligations. And to me, the key part of all of this was they had 60 days. This happened on day 61. So that's where Tucker's trying to get Ted Cruz. And Ted Cruz said, we look, we'll find out what does the we mean. Obviously there had to have been some level of coordination between Bibi and Trump. Like, yeah, if it doesn't happen in 60 days, you go on 61. But that doesn't mean we're doing the bombing. So there's just a lot of stuff that we're gonna start unpacking as time goes on.

Dave Rubin (38:54)

Yes, well, on the question of we, it is absolutely the case that the Israelis told the Americans beforehand. I know because on Wednesday whilst we were here, a friend of mine messaged Saying, why are the Americans evacuating the Baghdad embassy? So that was clear. Not only that, if you follow, if you track what the American military movements around the world, they are moving into position, but it's also been the case that it's been told that the Americans are helping in downing missiles. Now, this isn't particularly controversial, by the way.

Richard Karn (39:34)

Right.

Dave Rubin (39:34)

Last year, When Iran sent 700 missiles in both April and in November into Israel, the allied west was helping Israel in intercepting those missiles. That's not crazy. So there is a we in that the Americans, and unfortunately not in this time, the British have been helping Israel in that sense. The question is, will America get involved more explicitly on the military side? And that question is followed by another question is, can Israel actually finish this war without America? And so this is worth keeping an eye on.

Richard Karn (40:16)

Well, and by the way, I don't think you or I or anyone watching this really knows the answer to that question. Maybe Israel doesn't even know the answer to that question. But they will have to decide what to do. Right. Like that's the thing. But they basically have completely incapacitated the Iranian army. There isn't going to be a nuke program. I know they still have to deal with Fordo, but there isn't going to be a program. And their military has basically been taken out. So the screams of World War 3 fall very deaf to me. But I want to show you this because you referenced this and JD references, this is Trump 10 years and two days ago, the day he came down that golden staircase, what was one of the things he was saying that very day? I will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. And we won't be using a man like Secretary Kerry that has absolutely no concept of negotiation, who's making a horrible and laughable deal, who's just being tapped in along as they make weapons right now. Yeah. I mean, is that the weird thing? We're not used to politicians actually doing what they say. So that's why so many people are gobsmacked right now.

Dave Rubin (41:24)

He's been incredibly consistent. I'll add some context for that speech. That's 2015, am I right?

Richard Karn (41:29)

Yeah.

Dave Rubin (41:29)

So that's the same year that Obama and his administration signed the JCPOA deal.

Richard Karn (41:36)

Yes.

Dave Rubin (41:37)

Now, when they signed that deal, and this is in the public domain, American intelligence knew that Iran were enriching their uranium. It's also the case that after that, it was known to intelligence that they were enriching their uranium. That's why Trump removed came out of the deal, the JCPOA in 2018. I would also note that JCPOA deal still, Iran is still part of it as with along with the EU and other places. And when Wyckoff went to Oman to start the negotiations that the, that we know, we know as the 60 day negotiations, the 60 day plus one, America also knew, and I've learned this today from former Ambassador Michael Oren, that Iran were continuing their enrichment. And we know from the IAEA reports that they were enriching. You cannot trust the Iranians. They are an Islamist regime. They are going to lie. You can sign whatever non proliferation treaty you want with these people. They're going to lie about it. Trump always understood this. He always saw that. And that's why he's been absolutely right. He's right in recognizing who the axis of evil is in the Middle East. And for that I'm pretty impressed by him, to be honest.

Richard Karn (42:59)

Well, to that point, I want to show you this bit by Michael Knowles, who had a little bit of fun with this. And I'm gonna ask you the question first so you can think about it while we're watching the clip. My question right now is why, if Donald Trump has been consistent on this, which is what you're saying, what I'm saying, what most people are watching these videos saying, what JD Is saying. My question to you after the clip is why did Tucker ever support him? But take a look at this. Trump, they pointed out, was elected on getting us out of wars in the Middle East. You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. When did Trump suggest that Iran was even on his mind, buddy, no nuclear weapons. You can't give them nuclear weapons. It'd be one thing if Trump had campaigned on stopping Iran's nuclear program. Don't let Iran have nuclear weapons. That's my only thing I have to tell you today. But for Trump to just voice this policy on us completely out of the blue, including Iran, we would have. They can't have a nuclear weapon. That's all. They can't have nuclear weapons. It's too, too destructive, too powerful. They can't have it without any warning. I just don't want him to have a nuclear weapon. Well, it's a betrayal, wouldn't you say? What else do you call it when you say one thing on the campaign trail? They cannot have a nuclear weapon. That was the only thing, the one thing I say it you cannot have. And another thing when you get into office, you can't let Iran have nuclear weapons. I don't want the US to get bogged down in another war in the Middle East. I think many of the arguments regarding Iran are bogus, as I've said repeatedly on the show. But it also seems strange when, I mean consistent. We just don't know what to do with someone who actually says things for years and then abides by them. It's just not how we do politics in this country. But why do you think Tucker ever supported Donald Trump? It seems kind of curious to me if the thing that Trump has repeatedly said was kind of his number one thing is the thing that Tucker hates him the most for.

Dave Rubin (45:07)

Well, I think when it comes to politicians, we all hear what we want to hear and maybe ignore the things we don't want to hear. Perhaps that's why. And I can't otherwise read Tucker Carlson's mind on this one, I'm afraid. But yeah, I don't know. It's the American. You're probably. What's your answer to that question?

Richard Karn (45:31)

I don't know, maybe you need to go to Savat and learn a little bit of Kabbalah and then you could start reading his mind. All right, we'll leave it there. Let me just show you this next one though, because I think what's also connected to all of this is not only that Trump has been remarkably consistent on this, but you and I have talked about this before, that there's another component of this to what's happening online where it seems that so much of it is bought Fed and troll fed and we know about the bot farms and the amount of people that are manipulating us from outside the country. I thought this was really interesting. There's a guy by the name of Eyel Yacobi. He's a great follow on X. I think he was a student at Columbia actually, who then got into the fight cuz they literally wouldn't let him on campus. And he's become a really excellent voice right now. But he look at this. I mean, this is wild. There's an account on Twitter called Red Pill Media X and it's become one of the really anti Israel, anti Jew accounts on all of X. And a while back that account wrote, I am an American citizen, born and raised in America. I refuse to die for Israel. Now nobody's asking anyone to die for Israel. Nobody wants boots on the ground or anything like that. But then it turned out Eyal Yacobi did a little research and it turns out that Red Pill Media X is from a guy by the name of Abdul Abbas in Karachi, Pakistan on his iPhone, which. You gotta update that thing, man. I mean, you know how slow his camera's loading. I mean, Jesus. But that point, I mean, that's just one instance of a lot of this. The way social media has manipulated us in really, really crazy ways. And before I let you chime in, I thought I'd read this. This is from Lachlan Marque, who's a partner at ARGUS Insight, which is an intel monitoring company. He retweeted that and he wrote something extremely simple that Elon Musk could do to dramatically improve the health of this platform. Platform would be to automatically verify and display accounts, or at least verified accounts, actual countries of origin. How serious do you think this media manipulation or algorithmic manipulation, bot manipulation and everything else is right now?

Dave Rubin (47:29)

It's been astonishing to watch in real time, particularly just the total. The barrages of false information. Even with Musk's community notes system that he's put in on X the. The amount of likes. A tweet goes around the world five times before it gets a community note. And it just is huge manipulation of. Of people's minds. The one person, when there are accusations that Israel had a sort of secret Mossad base under Tel Aviv. One guy had superimposed a sort of Star wars or starship as if it was real. I mean, I can't. It's so. It's so ludicrous. One thinks that. Are you trolling your own side on. On this one to like prove a point of how ridiculous the false information is? And, and to see this on a scale. Actually, I found it quite concerning because there's so many lies and I'm not quite sure if Twitter is a better place now than it was a couple years ago, but it's been pretty shocking.

Richard Karn (48:38)

Yeah, right, Right. It's weird. Cause it's absolutely a freer place and I know we're both on the side of freedom, but in some sense it's also become manipulated just in a very, very different way. My friend, before I let you go, the best shawarma that I had in all of Israel just 10 days ago was in the old city of Jaffa. You know that traffic circle that's right at the entrance over there? There's a place that's either called. It's either called shawarma place or shawarma stop or shawarma something. Get yourself some shawarma.

Dave Rubin (49:05)

It was around the corner. Thank you, Dave, good to speak to you.

Richard Karn (49:08)

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He is an easy target but is safe there. We are not going to take him. We are not going to take him out kill. At least not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention in this matter. So it does sound like from everything that I'm hearing, it sounds like they know exactly what bunker Khomeini is in with a couple other people. They're basically trying to decide like do you take out the Supreme Leader and what are the ramifications of that or do you let him go into exile, likely in, I don't know, you send him to Oman, you send him to Russia somewhere. Again, I'm not an expert, so I don't know exactly what you do in that case. But I do think it's interesting what Trump said. We know where you are. Stop shooting at civilians now. Nothing got through yesterday, but they were still shooting. We'll see how Trump is willing to defend his words right there. I want to show you a video of Mike Emmanuel talking about potential US Intervention and what they might do with the Ayatollah. Senior officials at the meeting with President Trump's national security team in the Situation Room wrapped at 3:46pm Eastern Time. So after a couple of hours of meeting, we were told earlier today that the possibility of U.S. intervention, possibility of airstrikes is on the table. And certainly President Trump has been taking a much tougher stand with the Iranian regime, basically saying that he wants its unconditional surrender and even threw out the idea that the Ayatollah Khamenei could be at risk, saying I'm not going to take him out just yet, but basically left the possibility open that the United States could take out the leader of Iran and potentially pursue regime change. All right, so what's interesting here is if you want all this to end right now, let's say nobody really wants this to continue. What is an ending look like? An ending looks like a surrender by Iran. Like, they're done. Their military is over the nuclear program. It's basically completely done. There's one last site that it sounds like Israel might be requesting some help from America to bomb in and out, and that's it. But in essence, it's over. Right. The army did not attack. The other Arab nations have not all jumped in on Israel. Like, this thing is over 20 years from now, this will be looked at as an unbelievably massive military success that was done cleanly without killing civilians, even though Iran was trying to kill as many civilians on the other side. So the question for Khamenei is if he still is in control, either just surrender right now or go into exile. Right. Or you're going to die. I think Trump has proven, I think we've illustrated it in this show that Trump is a man of his word. So he's saying, stop shooting at civilians. The game is up. We know where you are. If he chooses not to, then it is on him. Again, we are not used to politicians saying what they mean and then going through with their promises. Now, interestingly, as things seemingly have calmed down a little bit because less rockets are getting through, Israel has complete control of the skies, so there's less. As Winston talked about, we don't know how many rockets they actually have, but there are less rocket launchers because they're being blown up. They're trying to move them around. So they're playing like kind of whack a mole with that. However, the Jerusalem embassy, where I was just about 10 days ago with Mike Huckabee, if you haven't seen the interview, it's up right now. Apparently, that is now going to be closed for the next two or three days. Retaliatory strikes on US Bases in the Middle east if the United States joins Israel's war against Iran. That's after the president met in the Situation Room for over an hour, two days. Just broke up an hour or two ago with the National Security Council. We're also learning the US Is closing its embassy in Jerusalem starting tomorrow. All right, so first off, I want to send my best and thoughts and prayers to Mike Huckabee and everyone at the embassy who are so wonderful to us. And just FYI, I mean, Jerusalem, like all of Israel, is a very small place. If they, they have been shooting rockets at Jerusalem. But you could try to blow up the American embassy and just your rockets off by a tiny bit and you blow up the Dome of the Rock. I don't know if they really care about that at all, but they're supposed to care about that. I. Interestingly, exiled Iranian Crown Prince Reza Paslazi has now started to make videos encouraging the Iranians to rise up. Take a look. My fellow countrymen, the Islamic Republic has reached its end and is collapsing. Khamenei, like a frightened mouse, has gone into hiding and lost control of situation. What has started is irreversible. The future is bright and we will get through this historic turning point. In these difficult days, my heart is with all the defenseless citizens who have been harmed and have fallen victim to Khamenei's warmongering and delusions by standing with the people, protect your lives, play a historic role in the transition from the Islamic Republic and take part in building Iran's future. A free and prosperous Iran lies ahead of us. May I soon be by your side. Long live Iran. Long live the people of Iran. Okay, I should note that that was an AI translation. He was speaking Farsi, which is the native language of most Iranians. Iran is about 6. It's what, about 60%? We just checked 61% Persian. So they're under the Islamic Republic, the Mullahs, but they're 61% Persian. So he spoke that in Farsi. But the point is, when we talk about regime, nobody wants American soldiers there or anything else. No one's asking for that. This is an incredible opportunity as the. The regime goes down, the bad guys who've oppressed their own people and as Bill Maher said, puts the women in beekeeper costumes and everything else. This was a place that was very modernized and Liberal in the 70s. We've shown you those videos before. You can see them on YouTube. It could return to that. And that is actually what most of the other nations in the area want. Lebanon does not want Hezbollah, which is an Iranian proxy running their country, which it largely has been doing. Like, it's time to end this nonsense. Speaking of nonsense, we're going to talk about the Democrats in a second. But first, built for America. Hey, guys, quick but important update. Right now, politicians in D.C. are trying to kill the energy tax credits that are bringing manufacturing back from China and putting Americans to work. These credits are powering American energy independence, rebuilding our supply chains, and creating real jobs in real communities. If they're repealed, we risk losing millions of jobs, gutting a trillion dollars from our economy, and handing China a major win. President Trump, don't let Congress pull the plug on America's comeback. Keep the energy tax credits that are putting America first. All right, so let's put all that aside for a moment and just jump back to America for the remainder of the show. The Democrats are completely insane, and it's a damn shame. I wish that they weren't. I really do. It would be nice if they wouldn't be. We could have some healthy tension between the two parties. We could go back to just like the simple fights we used to have. But they're completely out of control. They never knew when to say stop. They want to progress as they're going off the cliff. And you may remember this from a few days ago. This is California Senator Alex Padilla being removed as he basically went to try to approach Kirsty Noem, who was on stage during a briefing. He had no marker or pin or anything that said who he was or anything else. And if anyone approaches this stage, especially in these heightened times, Secret Service is supposed to get rid of these guys. That's exactly what they did. We'll show you that and then I'll explain why we're showing it to you again. Hands up. Hands up. I'm Senator Alex Padilla. I have questions for the secretary. Because the fact of the matter is a half a dozen violent criminals that you're rotating on your head. Many of our ICE agents have been doxed for doing their duty. All right, so look, as I said last week, you can't just bum rush the stage. A senator is not anyone special other than he has a plaque on his desk that says Senator. Right. If you were at a hearing, literally, you, me, or anyone else like Kirsten, I've interviewed her. She knows who I am. If I just started bum rushing a stage that while she was speaking, you think that they'd be like, oh, it's Dave Rubin, let him through. No, of course not. Of course that is what they are going to do. It is their job. Anyway, Padilla went on the floor at the Capitol and he's a Democrat, so what did he do? He cried. You've seen the video. I was pushed and pulled, struggled to maintain my balance. I was forced to to the ground, first on my knees and then flat on my chest. And as I was handcuffed and marched down a hallway. Who falls for this Overly emotional. That's like the Cory Booker thing. I'm going to speak very slowly, as if I'm about to cry. Like, I can do it too. The thing. I was pushed and I was pulled. It's like, how about be a fucking man, dude? You can't just bum rush a public official. It's as simple as that. You can't do it. I can't do it. Now you're gonna cry about it? You're gonna cry about it. Well, guess what? This is just going to keep happening because the Democrats have decided, and they decided this a long time ago, by the way, that there are no rules that are applicable. You have rules for you, but for them, they can cause chaos. They can burn things down, they can loot, they can get in and out of jail. There's just nothing that applies to them. And in New York, there were several people that were bum rushing an ICE building, including New York City mayoral candidate Brad Lander, who then was arrested. Take a look at.

Dave Rubin (60:17)

I am an officer with ice.

Richard Karn (60:19)

You're an officer with ice. You have an id. Can you see it? I don't have to show that to you. You don't have to.

Dave Rubin (60:25)

I'm asking.

Richard Karn (60:25)

I'm telling you to leave.

Dave Rubin (60:26)

I've already identified myself.

Richard Karn (60:28)

I'm an officer. You're not allowed to be here. Police are coming. Okay, what are we doing this in purpose, sir? Guys, back up. Back up. Guys, back up.

Dave Rubin (60:51)

Back up.

Richard Karn (60:51)

I understand. Step back, step back. Guys, step back. Step back, Step back. You don't have the authority to arrest U.S. citizens. Okay, first off, they do have the authority. You're not allowed to just wander into an ICE building and then link arms with people and take over. It doesn't matter who you are. Also notice they desperately. Is the implication that the guy working behind the desk at the ice, the receptionist over at ice, that he doesn't really work for ice, but the reason they want. Look, I don't love the optics. Obviously, nobody loves the optics of soldiers or ICE agents or police officers arresting people. Like you don't love the optics of that, right? And you want to the best ability of anyone to protest peacefully. You want to give them every opportunity to do that. But you can't storm into a building and just take over. But it's so interesting. They desperately want the masks off their face and they desperately want their ID number and they desperately want their name because they wanna shame all of these people out of a job and make sure that they feel a threat. They want their families to know you are under threat. Your husband works at ice. Your kids are gonna be threatened. You're gonna get some bad mail over at your house. Or some weirdo is gonna show up, or a series of other things. Here's a quick picture of Brad Lander struggling. I don't know, this one just seems funny. Just seems kind of funny to me. There's something just funny about that. Okay, and here's Brad Lander after release. And before I show you this video, you know this thing I'm always talking about, about these limp wristed, these people, they have no testosterone. They have no. Why are you always crying? Cory Booker's always crying. Padilla's crying. They all started to sound like this. You know, you've got. What's his name, the other guy who looks like the penguin. What the hell is his name? From New York? The other one who looks like the penguin? Well, Chuck Schumer looks like a turtle. No, Eric Adams. No, the one who looks like a penguin. Nadler who looks like a. They're all just like bleh. Like these people. Stop drinking out of plastic bottles or something. Here's Brad Lander. And so I just engaged in that tradition of accompaniment, of trying to bear witness, of trying to walk peacefully with someone, of trying to make sure that the rules are followed. Imagine you're a business owner relying on a dozen different software programs, each one disconnected, more expensive and more complicated than the last. It can be incredibly stressful right now. Picture Odoo. Odoo brings all the tools your business needs into one simple CRM. Accounting, inventory, manufacturing, marketing, HR and more. All seamlessly connected. 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And here he is trying to accost Tom Homan. How many more? I'll give the guy credit. I don't think he has a testosterone problem. Most of these people do, but I don't think he does. It's just, these people are just all pathetic. It's theatrics. It's ridiculous. Tom Homan believes in the First Amendment. He also believes in all of the other laws as it pertains to the United States, like, I don't know, having a border and that if you're illegal, the word legal's in there and ill implies not. And you've got to go home. New York City, pray for New York City if you ever want to go back to New York City, and especially if you're a Jew. But forgetting that if you're a freedom loving person, if that fucking psychopath becomes mayor, we are in a lot of of trouble. How do I segue to Jim Acosta right now? Well, Jim Acosta, you know, Jim Acosta, he was on CNN for a while. He was like, Stelter, it was always like, who are the biggest three jokes over at CNN that you don't really have to say anything. You just say their name and people start booing. That's what would happen to me if I was giving a speech. I would just say Jim Acosta. I didn't have to say anything. People boo. Brian Stelter. People boo. Chris Cuomo. People boo. Well, Acosta's got a podcast because everyone's got a podcast. Do you guys have podcasts? Everyone has podcasts except for you three. It's weird. Anyway, here's Jim Acosta explaining that it's the far right in the middle of the country who have been bamboozled by Trump, and they're the bad people. The far right in this country has kind of figured out a way to infiltrate, you know, the heartland and to, you know, basically pull, you know, mom and pop from the farm to their point of view. And as it turns out, a lot of those folks vote in these elections and a lot of those folks have been completely led astray. I hate to say it, but they've just been completely led astray. And we've all just let this happen on our watch with essentially a business model for delivering the news in this country that just does not work anymore. Yes, it's your business model, clown. The business model of lying to the people about everything turned out not to be a great business model. And then it led to me just trying to do the best I can over here in being a much better business model. But good luck with your podcast. Jim Acosta. I can't believe none of you. Joey, Joseph, Nobody, Nothing. No podcast for you guys. Also, the implication that it's his fault. It's his fault that mom and Pop on the farm, they're such dullards, they're such nonsensical, just brainless people, that it's their fault that they became this way. Maybe it's possible that Moment and Pop have a different set of values than you do. Maybe they believe in law and order. Maybe they believe in borders. Maybe they believe that boys are boys and girls are girls. Maybe they just don't like people like you. Is that possible? Maybe it's possible that they don't like people like aoc. And I don't like people like AOC either. I don't own a farm. I'd love to own a farm. I go on farm websites every now and again to see if I could maybe snag a farm somewhere. But aoc, here she is, and she's very concerned that the media is out of control. They've lost control of the culture war because they lost control of the media. Right. Because people are tuning out of mainstream media. They're finding alt media. So she's talking to some people about how they can get control back. I do think that several members of Congress, in some of my discussions, have brought up media literacy because that is a part of what happened here. And we're going to have to figure out how we reign in our media environment so that you can't just spew disinformation and misinformation. It's one thing to have differing opinions, but it's another thing entirely to just say things that are false. And so that's something that we're looking into. Come for me, you evil bitch, because you will not stop me. I promise you, I will spend every breathing hour on this planet fighting you on that. The fact that she has the gall at this point, after all of their lies. Right. And, you know, it's like hitting myself in the head with a hammer every time. Russia, Russia, Russia. Very fine people on both sides. The Covington kids are racist. Brett Kavanaugh's a serial rapist. Jesse Smollett was lynched. We can do this. Covid. Were there some lies around Covid? Should we keep going? The fact that you think that it's the government's job to rein in media. Yeah. You're allowed to spread misinformation, which is why Rachel Maddow's not in jail. We have the First Amendment. She's allowed to spread that nonsense and make $20 million for it, you buffoons. And if that woman ever gets any more power than she has, it will be a very, very dark day in America. But she's also not only been wrong, and they ramp up the fear about everything. But look at this. This is a little bit of a throwback. There was a little documentary they did about AOC because she survived January 6th. There was a guy who had a Lego set of the Capitol, and he was really crazy. And then there was a guy who had a furry hat, and he really did something nuts. And then some woman farted in Nancy Pelosi's chair. It was a heck of a day, everybody. But here's AOC telling Nicole Wallace that she thought it was going to be even worse than murder on that very dark day. I didn't think that I was just going to be killed. I thought other things were going to happen to me as well. So what sounds like what you're telling me right now is that you didn't only think that you were going to die, you thought you were going to be raped. Yeah. Yeah, I thought I was. And that you now understand, having thought about it, is because of your experience. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Sorry. That was Dana Bash, not Nicole Wallace, obviously. But look, I don't want anyone to be raped, but there was no reason to think you were there. A whole bunch of rapists there. Like, we're gonna rape for freedom. We'll rape to get Donald Trump back. It's just, again, it's the same notion. It's the same sort of mental condition that leads to Padilla thinking that if he just cries at the Capitol, that it will get him points like they want. Everything they want is pity. It is virtue signaling and pity guised as virtue. And I would much rather be actually virtuous than fake virtuous. And on that note, how about as it pertains to any of the topics that we talk about on this day or any day that we all just stop lying. Stop participating in the lying. Fight for what is true. Say it, and see what happens. Do we have a video of a guy that I show every now and again who pushes that sort of crazy notion? Okay, go. One way to increase the probability that.

Dave Rubin (71:32)

Things will unfold for you properly is to.

Richard Karn (71:35)

Is to not lie. Just stop lying. Stop saying things you believe to be untrue. Stop doing things you know to be wrong. Just start with that. You'll get closer and closer to the truth. And the truth is not. The truth is the adventure of life. That's the advantage to the truth. You have the world on your side. Because if you're lying about things, you're opposing reality. Who are you? Who are you to oppose reality? Who are you to oppose reality? And maybe if enough of us stop opposing reality, reality has a way of ordering things so that goodness actually wins. Like, I actually think that is true. The lies can work for so long. The badness can work for so long. And there's something about the truth, there's something about actual reality that reorders things into goodness. And I sense in this weird moment we're in with all of the stuff that's happening in the Middle east and what we're talking about as it relates to the media and everything else, that through the fog of all of the lies and manipulation and bots and algorithmic stuff and all of the things that we've lived through post Covid and everything, everything else, that maybe the pushback is starting to be here, but it will not magically occur. Each one of us have a little something to do with that. Can I say that tomorrow is officially Tequila presale day? I think I can say it. Tomorrow is officially Tequila presale day. We will have more on that. I am very excited. If you want to be the first in the know, sign up for our newsletter@daverebin.com Newsletter and if you're joining us on locals, you guys will get the only the one and only discount for the entire year for 48 hours so you guys can get the first bottles at a nice cheap price. And I am just so excited to launch this thing. It's been a long, long time coming. Guys. Thank you for watching. Postgame show in 30 seconds. Rubinreport.locals.com do we have a panel? Oh, usr. Now you better get your stank asses up out of here before I cause a new clear Hong Kong. Marketing is hard. But I'll tell you a little secret. It doesn't have to be. Let me point something out. You're listening to a podcast right now and it's great. You love the host. You seek it out and download it. You listen to it while driving, working out, cooking, even going to the bathroom. Podcasts are a pretty close companion. And this is a podcast ad. Did I get your attention? You can reach great listeners like yourself with podcast advertising from Libsyn Ads. Choose from hundreds of top podcasts offering host endorsements or run a pre produced ad like this one across thousands of shows. To reach your target audience in their favorite podcasts with Libsynads, go to libsynads. Com. That's L I B S Y N Ads. Com Today.