Podcast Summary: The Rubin Report - "This Is Why Gavin Newsom Regrets Letting Shawn Ryan Interview Him"

Release Date: July 18, 2025

Hosts:

• Dave Rubin: Host of The Rubin Report
• Riley Gaines: Co-Host, 12-time NCAA All-American swimmer and host of the "Gains for Girls" podcast

Introduction

In this episode of The Rubin Report, Dave Rubin welcomes Riley Gaines to discuss pressing issues surrounding free speech, political correctness, and the ongoing debates related to gender identity in sports. The conversation delves into the controversies surrounding California Governor Gavin Newsom's stance on transgender policies, the impact of these policies on women's sports, and broader cultural shifts in America.

Gavin Newsom and Transgender Policies in Sports

Discussion Points:

• Gavin Newsom's Position: Riley Gaines criticizes Governor Gavin Newsom for his support of transgender athletes competing in women's sports, labeling the policies as "radical" and "destructive." Gaines expresses skepticism about the governor's genuine beliefs regarding gender identity, suggesting that Newsom's policies are politically driven rather than rooted in personal conviction.

  "I don't believe, truthfully, like, I can't allow myself to believe that they actually believe that men can become women and vice versa. I really don't think that." [Riley Gaines, 01:18]

• Impact on Women's Sports: Gaines argues that allowing transgender athletes to compete in women's sports undermines fairness and equity. She cites legal actions taken by individuals like Charlie Kirk against the Department of Justice for enforcing Title IX in California, which she believes forces men into women’s sports categories.

  "Men don't belong in women's sports. And I can say that with my full chest." [Riley Gaines, 07:51]

• Title IX Enforcement: The conversation references statements from Attorney General Pam Bondi and Linda McMahon regarding the Department of Education's lawsuit against California for violating Title IX by permitting male athletes in female sports categories.

  "They have sued Maine. We're in litigation with Minnesota. We've sent multiple letters, and if you do not comply, you're next." [Linda McMahon, 09:42]

Cultural Shifts and Public Discourse

Key Themes:

• Cultural Revolution: Riley Gaines discusses a perceived cultural shift since Donald Trump's election, highlighting increased acceptance of conservative viewpoints on gender and cancel culture. She attributes the easing of societal pressures against expressing certain opinions to the current political climate.

  "The cultural shift that we have seen since... we're living in a totally different world." [Riley Gaines, 11:34]

• Simone Biles Controversy: The episode covers a public spat between Riley Gaines and Olympic gymnast Simone Biles over comments related to transgender athletes in sports. Gaines criticizes Biles for what she perceives as undermining women's sports by supporting transgender inclusion without ensuring competitive fairness.

  "My objection is to singling out children for public scrutiny in ways that feels personal and harmful." [Simone Biles, 19:42]

• Public Apologies and Accountability: Biles' subsequent apology is analyzed by Gaines, who views it as insincere and a response to backlash rather than genuine reflection.

  "Her speaking totally half-hearted. It was amazing to me." [Riley Gaines, 21:04]

WNBA and Caitlin Clark

Discussion Points:

• Caitlin Clark's Prominence: The conversation shifts to Caitlin Clark, a standout WNBA player dubbed the "Michael Jordan" of the league. Gaines praises Clark's talent and discusses her significant impact on the league's popularity and viewership.

  "She's selling out stadiums. You see what happens when she shows up, how many people show up versus when she's injured or not in town." [Dave Rubin, 34:02]

• League Controversies: Gaines criticizes the WNBA for creating a hostile environment around Clark, citing incidents where Clark has been physically targeted during games. She expresses concern that the league's actions may hinder its growth and harm its star player.

  "They can't recognize that when they see it. And I think it's racial tensions, which you hate to see again in the year 2025." [Riley Gaines, 37:38]

• Support from Sophie Cunningham: Gailnes highlights Sophie Cunningham's defense of Clark amid the controversies, portraying her as a standout ally within the league.

  "She's like, look, I've had enough watching this. Caitlin is going to get hurt. I'm going to defend her." [Riley Gaines, 35:20]

Personal Anecdotes and Off-Topic Segments

Highlights:

• Riley Gaines' Personal Life: Gaines shares personal details about her pregnancy and upcoming swim event, adding a personal touch to the discussion.

  "I'm actually swimming Alcatraz... getting dropped off at the prison, swimming back to shore." [Riley Gaines, 40:45]

• Humorous Exchanges: The hosts engage in light-hearted banter, discussing potential bloopers and humorous misunderstandings during the recording.

Conclusion

The episode concludes with Dave Rubin and Riley Gaines reflecting on the current state of American culture regarding free speech and political correctness. They emphasize the importance of maintaining fairness and competitive integrity in sports while advocating for inclusivity.

Notable Quotes:

• "Men don't belong in women's sports. And I can say that with my full chest." – Riley Gaines [07:51]

• "Their policies are... compromise gender equity for inclusive bullshit." – (Implied sentiment by Riley Gaines)

• "Great sex isn't just about showing up. It's about showing off." – (Comment preceding advertisement, not directly related to main content)

Disclaimer: This summary aims to accurately reflect the discussions and viewpoints presented in the podcast episode. It does not endorse or critique the opinions expressed by the hosts or guests.