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Unexpected Fallout from the Election Aftermath No One Noticed with Co-Host Megyn Kelly
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Dave Rubin
It's a crazy world, Crazy world Somebody gotta have the same view.
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Megyn Kelly
It's a.
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Dave Rubin
Crazy world It's a crazy world Somebody gotta have the same news. All right, people, I am Dave Rubin. This is is the Rubin Report. And I am joined by a woman that I am officially anointing the queen of all media, Megan Kelly. How are you? You predicting wizard?
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Megyn Kelly
Am I?
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Dave Rubin
You are. I'm going to show you some evidence in the course of the next half hour of your predictions, but I suspect you're feeling pretty good, my friend. I mean, we had a little something to do with this, I think, right? A little something. What's going on here online?
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Megyn Kelly
I don't know if I did or I didn't. I'm sure you did. I feel just euphoric. I just feel like, truly euphoric in the way you don't feel that often. You know what I mean? Like euphoria. That, that's not a feeling that comes over you very often and certainly not from the political world. You know, if you get that feeling, usually something in your personal life. So. But I didn't realize how much I wanted it. Do you know what I mean? Like, I, I was preparing myself. I was like, she's probably going to win. She's got the ground game. It's very tight. Just going to have to prepare myself for that because I refuse to be one of those blubbering idiots on the air if this goes the wrong way. Like, oh, boo, I'm not. I refuse. So I was trying to get myself mentally accustomed to the thought of, like, picturing her up there taking the oath. And when he won, it was just such a huge feeling of relief, hopefulness, and as I say, like, extreme joy in even euphoria.
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Dave Rubin
I mentioned to you when I joined you on election night that in some way his hero arc now of this comeback in the euphoria that so many of us feel, it's connected to you. Because, you know, if we flashback nine years ago to that first debate and he was going after you and you definitely, well, I don't want to speak for you, but I don't think you were really a Trump supporter at that point. You were actually doing journalism. Certainly then it's nine years later and, you know, a day or two before the election, you're on stage with him making the case for why women should vote for him. And then here we are. I mean, if you were to talk to yourself nine years ago, what do you, what do you think she would think about what's going on right Now.
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Megyn Kelly
I don't think she would have anticipated this is where she'd be at all. I mean, my own evolution on Trump was not totally dissimilar from that of many voters. I think where he came out of the scene in 16 and you were like, what is it? It doesn't look like the rest, and it doesn't sound like the rest, and it doesn't fit the mold of what I have programmed in my brain as possible president. And then we had that debate, and after which he, you know, just kept kind of tweaking me for nine months. So, like, then I was really like, I'm. I don't really like him and he's not my fave. So, yeah, that's where I was back in 16. But then he governed, you know, and at heart, I've, I've been a center right person for many, many years, and he was really pleasing me in virtually everything he did as president. I mean, every single win he racked up, I was like, and I agree with that one and that one, too. Oh, and good for him on that. Oh, and look at these jerks who are coming after him. And the Brett Kavanaugh thing really sealed my feelings about him. And next thing I knew, you know, they blamed Covid on him in a way that was really unfair. And his economy had been booming, and it was just. They behaved so badly on. I grew to absolutely loathe their leaders. Loathe them, not the people. I know you and I both have a lot of friends who are Dems, but the leaders. And then by the time we crossed over into the four years of Joe Biden, and just as he actively tried to ruin the country, I almost just became radicalized against him and their policies and pro Trump. And the more Trump took like a man strong, you know, defying these judges, the lawfare, and then finally the assassination attempts, it was just. By the end, I could not have been more in his camp. That's how the evolution went.
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Dave Rubin
And that's why I tell everybody. It's like, you're always at the top of my short list of people that I enjoy that do this, because not only has your evolution been honest and real, but then you also went to, to this side of the media thing, the online part of this, coming from mainstream. And that really is the secondary story that I want to get to in a moment. But first, let's go to the time machine for just a second, because I like giving credit where credit is due. I know you don't want any extra credit, Megan, but Let's go back to January 18, 2024 and watch this blast from the past. Megan, come mid January 2025, who will be president of the United States? And then I will let you go.
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Megyn Kelly
I hate when people ask this because.
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Dave Rubin
I know and that's why I'm doing it, because you got me on that other one with the Trump and DeSantis thing. And now we'll just have a clip out there hanging there.
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Megyn Kelly
I'm going to have to say Donald Trump, I just think. I know, I know. We're about to go through a year of indict, not indictments, criminal trials and probably convictions, and maybe even the rogue judge who sends him into jail pending appeal. Unlikely. But maybe Trump grows with every controversy and I think it will be true this year as well. I've never seen the Republican base so angry about something. Even the ones who don't like him are going to try to send a message that that kind of electioneering that the Dems are doing to him is not okay. And Joe Biden over the next year is likely to have a fall or an impossible to ignore senior moment. And so I'd have to say Trump, huh?
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Dave Rubin
Huh. How about that?
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Megyn Kelly
Never say that. So, yeah, I have my own senior moment. Good for me. I did nail it.
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Dave Rubin
Well, you nailed it. And I, and the reason I wanted to show it again, I like giving people credit where it's due, but it's also because what you were talking about there had nothing to do with policy. It was the thing that was driving the Trump movement that you and I now have become attached to. And I think that that's what really moved people here. Yes, they mostly agree with the policies, but that's not really what people were voting for last week.
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Megyn Kelly
No. That's why the Democrats Law Fair may have been the biggest political mistake in history. Truly, it was the most egregiously self inflicted wound we've seen in a long time in American politics. Their master plan probably got him elected, almost certainly got him the nomination, and certainly had a big hand in casting the win to him on Tuesday, which is just so delightful. But I'm really thrilled about the second part there because we all knew Joe Biden was deteriorating, but it was indeed a senior moment that brought him down and kicked him off the ticket. I mean, you kind of knew it was likely to happen, but it's, it's, I'm glad you have a record of it. Like no one really.
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Dave Rubin
It's like they're all pretending that they were saying it the entire time. Now that's the whole thing. And that's why I think it's worth showing those old clips. Time is our most precious commodity and I've heard from so many of you guys who have asked for my advice about how you can spend it wisely to improve yourself and the people around you. That's why I'm so excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses in the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of C.S. lewis, the stories in the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient Christian church with Hillsdale College's online courses, all available for free. That's right, Absolutely free. I personally recommend you sign up for American Citizenship and its Decline with Victor Davis Hansen. In this eight lecture course, Dr. Hansen explores the history of citizenship in the west and the threats it faces today. Threats like the erosion of the middle class, the disappearance of our borders, the growth of an unaccountable deep state, and the rise of globalist organizations. The course is self paced so that you can start whenever and wherever. Start your free course, American Citizenship and its Decline with Victor Davis Hansen today. Go right now to Hillsdale Edu Dave to start. It's free and it's easy to get started. That's Hillsdale Edu Dave to start. Hillsdale Edu Dave. And to that point, let's go to that very same episode and watch what you said about Harris. Megan, does that answer your previous question, which is like, well, why can't they get rid of him? That's kind of why. Because they know that, like, okay, if you could bring in Dean Phillips or if you could bring in RFK or anyone else magically, well, you still have to get rid of her. And that's what they're up against right now because nobody's going to vote for her.
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Megyn Kelly
Aren't you feeling sorry for yourself? Right, I'm feeling sorry for me. The United.
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Dave Rubin
Why am I feeling sorry for Megyn Kelly right now?
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Megyn Kelly
Stuck with these two.
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Dave Rubin
How do we get existentially. Yes, I feel bad for all of us. Yeah, yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
No, she used to go on with her like in that same speech with her, like, what, we need to be unburdened by what has been? Which she says. So, yes, she is a massive problem for him. Yeah. Like, make it a contest. But the Democrats will never put her in. But he cannot pass the baton to her because they will lose.
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Dave Rubin
They did pass the baton. They did it on the DL and she lost.
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Megyn Kelly
So it was reckless. It was an absolutely reckless decision. And now the interesting thing this week with Nancy Pelosi suggesting that was just a Joe Biden move, that she was surprised he endorsed her the day he announced he was dropping out, that she really wanted Pelosi. An open primary in which Kamala was going to be forced to compete but not guaranteed the outcome. I wonder if that's true. I really, I don't know. But it is shocking that they went with her. I know why they went with her. The whole identity politics thing. They were stuck with her. And maybe Joe Biden just made it a foregone conclusion. But I don't know because look, he could have, they could have said he endorsed her. But. And that's good, that counts for a lot. But we're still going to have an open primary. Pelosi said no, it was absolute recklessness to go with Kamala Harris. I mean, you couldn't have found a worse candidate. She is dumb. Too dumb to be president. Too dumb to be vice president even I would venture. And just spent the last 100x days trying to convince us and remind us of that fact. She was completely on top of that. Inept as a candidate. I mean you could have dumb, but somewhat street smart, you know, like savvy enough to get through an interview. She had no skills, none whatsoever. I mean, we can all now recite her platitudes, her just empty phrases in our sleep. She refused to deviate off of her pre drafted script. She gave us absolutely nothing to connect to. And so all that was floating in the ether was those radical positions she had taken in 19, which the country universally rejected. It was an utter fail of a campaign on every level. And what's amazing, Dave, is that the mainstream media is ignoring the number one reason for the fail. And that number one reason is named Kamala Harris.
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Dave Rubin
I'm surprised you're not giving her any credit for being from a middle class family. Maybe you never heard that before, but I thought that was quite impressive and it almost got the vote for me.
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Megyn Kelly
Maybe, maybe. We heard she eats no for breakfast too.
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Dave Rubin
Let's talk about the media portion of this because my position for the last couple months basically was that this was really not an election of Trump versus Kamala. It was really an election on reality. And how many people now had woken up to something roughly real that they were getting online versus the endless lies of the mainstream media? It is very obvious that the mainstream media is now even acknowledging. I mean CNN is now talking about the podcasters and the Online streamers and everything else. MSNBC is now for sale via Comcast. Cnn, it's now being reported, is about to ax a bunch of their top talent. Is that really the win here? I mean, there's a. There's a Trump win and a policy win, of course, and we're seeing some good people coming in. But is the other piece of this that the thing that you left years ago to now start what you're doing, very much like what I'm doing and so many others that now we have a chance to actually deal with the truth, at least?
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I think it's huge. Not only, obviously, Trump's use of the podcast circuit in driving up his numbers, in particular with men and with young people, because this is where they are. The young people do not watch cable news at all. They're, you know, older people. Senior citizens watch cable news. And we know this not only in that way, but think about, like, the presidential debate between first Trump and Biden, but then Trump and Harris and the vice presidential debate for that matter. And the fact checking that went on on X and on podcasts and the digital lane, I mean, it was absolutely stellar. And those very effective little memes of like, one, you know, the way that Dana Bash asked J.D. vance his first question versus the way that Dana Bash asked Kamala Harris her first question, like, those were all over the online digital community and they got played and replayed on shows like yours and mine. The fact checking of the debate was just something I've never seen before, where these mainstream anchors could not get away with the lies they were telling about, let's say, immigration policy. In that JD Vance Tim Walls debate, all of it was exploding. The Tim Walls stolen valor stuff that exploded online. We all really had a massive role in shaping the narrative in a way that would have been unthinkable even four years ago. And it, it didn't deafen the mainstream media, but it completely counterbalanced them in a way that just wasn't even possible. It wasn't even possible until recently. It's a totally new game now.
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Dave Rubin
So I think I've asked you some version of this probably a couple times over the years, but what do you think? I mean, the hysteria and the lies and the fact that Obama two days before the election's doing very fine people again, and that all of some of the people that you just mentioned there, from Dana Bash or Jake Tapper, that they just were lying or running cover for all these lies relentlessly, and yet they knew they were being called out about it. Online. As someone that came from the cable world, can you just talk a little bit? Has any of your thoughts on their psychology or what's really going on with these people? Are they being handed a piece of paper? Say this lie about this? What do you think is really going on there?
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Megyn Kelly
I mean, on some issues, yes. Like, I've told the story just recently, but I remember back in the day, I first, Gosh, I think it was co anchoring America's Newsroom with hemmer, which was 2007 through nine, we tried to entertain the Jenny McCarthy claims about vaccines, which were controversial for sure. But you weren't even allowed to say, could she be right? You know, Jenny McCarthy's message on the vaccines was not, don't take the childhood vaccines. It was too many shots too soon.
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Dave Rubin
Right. It was about the schedule.
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Megyn Kelly
Even allowed to talk about it. I remember being like, well, what does she mean? I wasn't yet a mother. And it was like, well, how? And I remember Fox News being like, oh, hell no, we are not even going there. And now today, the same thing is happening with the trans stuff that Fox News uses, quote, preferred pronouns. That's a News Corp policy. They say he when it should be she. And it gets very confusing for the audience. And that's their internal policy as well. And so, for sure, there are guidelines within which all those people must stay or they get in trouble. You could never have the frank and honest discussions that we have on our shows about race, race essentialism, the trans stuff, the election denialism stuff, the COVID truths. I mean, pick a different day, you'll find a different issue on cable news. And I only would really put it together later that a lot of that is driven by just the agenda of the owners or the people at the top. And a lot of it is driven by the advertisers. I mean, RFKJ is not wrong when he points out what a huge advertiser Pfizer is all over television. A big advertiser in a day where cable news is doing this. So what is the interest in that company? And having a bunch of segments bashing Pfizer or talking about the myocarditis that teenage boys are getting after they take these vaccines. That's. There's plenty of other things that can fill the news. And that's one of the beauties of being where we are is like, you can talk, you can say what you want. Even YouTube, for all of its, you know, censorious instincts, has allowed yours truly to maintain this platform now for four years. And I'VE only ever had one video demonetized and it happens to have been with Donald Trump and it's because he used the M word in talking about chopping off body parts of children. And if you use the M word to discuss what it is, the chopping off of body parts, YouTube gets upset. But I'm just saying we live in these alternate forums and it's working. It's not working perfectly, but we are all strong. We've all found a way to get our voices out there and make our frank discussions heard.
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Dave Rubin
I do have to say, you know, I don't give YouTube a lot of credit, obviously, and thank God for X and Rumble and everything else. But you know, the New York Times ran that crazy piece a few days before the election, basically trying to make sure that all the right wing YouTubers, including us, were going to be demonetized. And they asked YouTube for a statement and YouTube was like, nope, we're not doing anything. So that also goes to that cultural shift. The world's on edge. Election tensions, economic instability, supply shortages, and new health threats. Waiting for the medical industrial complex to protect you during a crisis is a huge mistake. That's why I want to tell you guys about the wellness company's Contagion emergency kit. It's a lifesaver, put together by real experts like Dr. Peter McCullough. Inside you've got medications like Ivermectin, HCQ, Budazz, and even a nebulizer. These are critical medications to treat respiratory illnesses and so much more, especially heading into flu season. Think about it. We've witnessed drug shortages, pharmacies turning people away, and prescriptions being questioned. Do you really want to risk being told no when you need life saving meds? This kit lets you bypass the red tape. No waiting, no begging. You're in control. With just a few clicks, the kit is delivered right to your door. I have my kit and now you can get yours by heading on over to TWC Health. Rubin and use code RUBEN to save 45 doll. Don't wait until it's too late. Act now. Take control and ensure you're protected against whatever comes next. That's TWC HellRubin. And use code Rubin to save 45 bucks plus free shipping right now. But you mentioned the racists over at the cable news outlets. You said this a couple days ago and I don't think I fully agree. And I'd like to have a healthy debate about it. Watch this.
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Megyn Kelly
We've got to spend another minute. Yes, another minute on Joy Reid. It's A tick tock situation until her ass is fired. It just. There's no way msnbc, which is in a full meltdown now about how bad their losses were, there's no way they can keep this woman I don't like. I realize they're in the same problem that the Democrat Party is. Like, they have a base that they need to keep, but she and her little friend Ellie Mustal are truly the most racist people on television.
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Dave Rubin
So you might be thinking, Megan, what's the. What kind of issue are we having here? I think that Sunny Hostin is the most racist person on television. And I think we should have a. I think we should have an open.
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Megyn Kelly
You're giving me something to think about. Yeah, I'm not going to say you're not in the running with that one. I'm not going to dismiss that out of hand. But I still like my odds. Like, especially the pair of them, Joy Reid and Ellie Mustal together. I mean, it's. It's amazing to watch. Like, you really can't believe that they're allowed to say the things they say on her show. And also her Instagram, like, her Instagram is so full. The one that I think was talking about that day, there were a couple clips of her, but we were harkening back to a clip in which I think it was on her Instagram. She was mocking white women's tears and she was like, oh, white women. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if when I was on Fox News in the prime time, if I was like, oh, look at the black women crying over George Floyd. Oh, they're black women. Can you imagine? Imagine? I would have been fired so fast.
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Dave Rubin
Yep.
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Megyn Kelly
But she can get away with doing that to whites. Wait, why again? Because MSNBC and NBC allow blatant racism on their airwaves every single night. She's not the only purveyor of it. She just happens to be the worst.
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Dave Rubin
Also, I'm pretty sure she's not a natural blonde.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, my God. Like, weren't we lectured by people like Joy Reid about white women who want to wear the braids? It's a no. That's why when we went to the Bahamas for like 10 years, we couldn't have our child's hair with the braids that the Bahamian women would love to charge you $100 to put in their head, but you're not allowed to help the Bahamian women because Joy Reed will call you a racist if she sees your child and her white hair in the braids. Then we were Told you can't make yourself look like a Latina. Or as J. Lo says, Latino. Latino. They all speak like completely without any Puerto Rico accent until they get to their words and then they want to remind you Latino. Anyway, we were told you're not allowed to like, wear the, the lip liner or the big hoops. And you can't have like, because that's all appropriation. And as a white woman, you're not allowed. So why can Joy Reed have the white hair, have the bright blonde hair? For a while there it was long and it looked exactly like Donald Trump's. And now she's gone closer, cropped. Fine. Which is what leftist women are doing. They're shaving off their hair to prove that they're leftists. P.S. we could tell by your sour face you didn't need to shave off all your. We're good. We got it. These women, these are my readers. Dave Rubin. It's what a normal person gets when they need a reader. It's like the liberal glasses are so ugly.
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Dave Rubin
Mark Cuban started looking like Rachel Maddow. It's like, what the hell's going on with these people?
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Megyn Kelly
Like, they think it's cool to be unattractive. It is not cool. Joy Reid, grow your hair out and act like a grown up. And we already knew you were leftist before you shaved off all your hair.
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Dave Rubin
I don't think it's worth going into Ellie Mizel or whatever his name is, Ms. Style, but I will say he looks like half fat Albert, half Albert Einstein.
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Megyn Kelly
He looks like one of those little trolls, you know, with like the hair that goes.
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Dave Rubin
What do you think, what do you think happens to all of these people now? Like, what do you think happens to not just, I don't mean just the MSNBC class, but all of these people who've been so wrong about so many things. And I'm not just talking about the elite, the media people, but, you know, the professors, but even the young girls who I do have sympathy for, who are going crazy with the posting of the videos on TikTok because they've been abused by probably their parents and the entire system and everything. It's like, what happens to that thing as Trump makes things better? Because I see that happening very clearly. And these people, it's hard to basically be like, oh, Hitler's not so bad.
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Megyn Kelly
They won't be going with Hitler is not so bad. They, the media will do what the media does and they will make everything he does bad. Think about Tom Holman and the deportations that are about to start. It's going to be great. I can't wait to get these murderers and rapists and child molesters out of our country. If you don't believe me, go follow Bill Malugen's X feed. He works for Fox, covers the border exclusively tweeting about the number of rapes, child rapes that have been going down in Massachusetts, which has said it won't cooperate with the deportations. Great, great. Where's your concern for your children? But anyway, what the mainstream media will do is not oh, Trump got the rapists out, he got the murderers out. It's going to be he took a father from his family. It's all the coverage will be the most negative angle they can find when Trump changes Title 9 back to what it was always and was meant to be, which is a statute that protects girls.
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Dave Rubin
Right.
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Megyn Kelly
They will have a million articles on how it's transphobic and they'll put the trans kid, the one trans kid who's a boy pretending to be a girl, teary eyed on tv. Poor me, I never hurt anybody. I just wanted to play field hockey. They will not put on the girl who had all of her teeth knocked out by the way again in Massachusetts by said boy. So that's what the media is going to do because they have tds and even without Trump, they hate Republicans. They really think conservatives and Republicans are bad. Genuinely. So they will not be seeing the bright side. There will be no silver lining for them. They will get back on mission of trying to destroy and laying the foundation so that they can win first the midterms and then the next presidential election.
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Dave Rubin
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah. I mean, if, like, I know there's some people predicting there's going to be tension between Trump and Elon because Elon's more eccentric. I mean, he's the most creative genius we have in the world. And that comes, I'm sure, with a bunch of, like, potential problems because it's not clear who's the subservient one in the room when he's there and Trump's there. So I could see that, you know, maybe there'd be some friction at some point. I don't know, though. I think it would be far down the line because right now they're completely aligned in their mission. And Elon, he has a touch of humility. I mean, I think he understands when he's in the room With Trump right now anyway, Trump's el jefe. And I don't know, I can see some potential for conflict and I can see some potential conflict with RFKJ too, who's similarly a strong personality and slightly out there on a few things. Like the brain worm was a turn I didn't expect in this election. So I can see that these are very interesting, very accomplished people. And they don't, they're not type Bs. So we're going to have a lot of type A's in there, but that's good. I think Trump is used to surrounding himself with type A's. I think he'll be able to harness their gifts. And I think, you know, realistically, everybody knows there's only one president and his name is Donald J. Trump. So here's hoping for the best.
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Dave Rubin
Are you as pleased with the pick so far as I am? Because to me, you know, we've got, we basically spent four years picking people on their skin color, their gender and whether they chop their genitals off. Clearly we're not hiring people that have no experience in nothing, which is what we did last time.
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Megyn Kelly
And Elise Stefanik.
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Dave Rubin
Stefanik at the UN Amazing.
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Megyn Kelly
Yeah, that's what you want, a fighter who's not afraid to go in there and challenge people. She, they're not going to know what hit them at the UN this is going to be amazing. Yeah, I don't, I'm, I could do without Christy Nom. I'm not gonna lie. Like, yes, she shot her puppy in the face. It's a problem for me. But she also had some trans legislation in her state that was deeply problematic. And it wasn't until she got cross examined but good by Tucker Carlson when he saw at his Fox show that she changed it. I think we could have done better there, but whatever. I'm not going to second guess Trump. He's got a lot of posts to fill. She was loyal to him. I'm sure she is competent because South Dakota is running really well. So hopefully that'll work out. I'll just leave it at that.
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Dave Rubin
And what about the next couple of months till, till Trump takes office? Because I think there's, and I said this on my show last week and I want it to bubble up to whatever sane Democrats are left that Biden has an incredible opportunity right now, regardless of whether they took him out or whether he actually kind of did it voluntarily or whatever, he has no need now to placate to the crazies. But he does have this two and a Half month period where he could actually restore his legacy and do some things right. I don't know, maybe get five American hostages out of Gaza, not to even speak of the Israelis, maybe sort of wrap up Ukraine, because Trump's going to do it pretty quickly, fix the border further. Do you think that there's enough juice left around Biden or whoever's around him to do some of the right things? I don't see him going scorched earth on Trump right now.
- [30:31]
Megyn Kelly
Did you see him on the sand and Rehoboth Beach?
- [30:34]
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
- [30:34]
Megyn Kelly
Over the.
- [30:35]
Dave Rubin
Yeah. I mean, no, I get it. I get it that there's not much left with him, but whoever's that, me and you were way ahead of that. Right. Like we were doing that in 2019. So that's fine. But I mean, whoever's around him, whether it's Jill driving the ship or whatever, that they might be like, boy, there's a legacy to be. Otherwise, your legacy basically is it's. It was pretty horrible. Yeah. You think that's done?
- [30:57]
Megyn Kelly
It's. It's exactly what the rye bread was after two minutes in my toaster this morning. It's done. It's done. So I don't know. I don't see that. And I think if the hostages get out, God willing, it's. People are going to credit Trump. Remember Trump said if I win.
- [31:15]
Dave Rubin
Yep.
- [31:15]
Megyn Kelly
I'll have the hot. Those hostages better be released before I get sworn in.
- [31:19]
Dave Rubin
He said our hostages, which I thought even that he said our was. Was pretty powerful.
- [31:24]
Megyn Kelly
So I don't know. I think it could happen. I just don't think there's a lot of people aren't going to credit Biden for it. They would credit Trump, I think. And Biden doesn't want to wrap up the Ukraine war. Biden is more with the neo Connie wing of the Republican Party and his own party now, where I think they're still Team Zelensky, where they see some favorable outcomes still in Zelensky's future. I think it's more of us on the Republican normie side that are saying what specifically? How could this possibly end without Zelensky giving up significant portions of the country which we don't want? It's just realistic reality. That's the only way to end this thing and without more bloodshed and without destabilizing the world even further. But I. So I think that's a, that's a belief that's held by Biden and Jake Sullivan and Team Blue that won't waver in the Last two months. They'd rather trump take the hit for wrapping that thing up.
- [32:19]
Dave Rubin
More importantly than anything else we've discussed so far. Did you just say that Megan Kelly eats bread in the morning? Has this glowed up? Megyn Kelly? She's eating carbs. Come on. What are you talking about?
- [32:29]
Megyn Kelly
Let me tell you something. You know Jillian Michaels, right?
- [32:31]
Dave Rubin
I do. I do. I adore her.
- [32:33]
Megyn Kelly
Fitness guru. She came on my show about a year ago, and she told me it's okay to eat bread. And so, damn it, I do. I eat bread. I'm not having, like, huge. I'm not having, like, a sandwich for breakfast and a sandwich for lunch. But I do have a piece of bread often in the morning with my eggs. Or sometimes I'll have peanut butter toast, which I love. It's such a treat. And when I go to the restaurant and they have not just any random bread, but if they have the white bread that just came out of the oven and it's not stale, you know, it's like, soft and doughy with, like, the good butter that has the salt on it, oh, my God. It's one of the pleasures of life. So, yes, I do. I eat the bread.
- [33:16]
Dave Rubin
I have nothing else for you. That felt like the right ending to me. Megyn Kelly enjoys soft, buttery, salty bread. Put that on the Internet, people. Megan, you are absolutely the best. I just love watching your rise in all of this. It's. It's just. It's like, man, we actually, I. I know you don't like saying it, so I'll just say it. I just know we had a little something to do with this, and. And it's cool. You.
- [33:38]
Megyn Kelly
You were nice. To give me any credit at all, you are the trendsetter. You were over here making something out of this lane when I didn't even know it existed, Dave. And you do it with class, with respect, with good humor, and with smarts. I've always respected your work product and your ultimate TV product, and I still do.
- [33:58]
Dave Rubin
And communication. Thanks for tuning in to the Rubin Report. Don't forget to review, share, and subscribe to this podcast. If you're looking for early and exclusive content, you can join me on locals@rubinreport.locals.com.