What Rock Bottom Looks Like & When Will It Hit w/ Adam Carolla & Jillian Michaels

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Rubin Report

Episode: What Rock Bottom Looks Like & When Will It Hit
Guests: Adam Carolla & Jillian Michaels
Date: June 16, 2026
Host: Dave Rubin

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rubin Report features a candid, energetic conversation with comedian and commentator Adam Carolla and health and fitness expert Jillian Michaels. Together with host Dave Rubin, they explore the concept of "rock bottom" in American culture and politics—particularly as it relates to California's decline, political realignment, and the exhaustion brought on by cultural battles. The discussion traverses the guests’ personal political journeys, the impact of media narratives, generational worries, and strategies for staying sane and hopeful amidst the chaos.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Political Journeys & Waking Up (01:57–06:27)

• Rubin and Michaels share similar paths as former liberals who shifted rightward in adulthood, not youth.
• Jillian Michaels likens her transformation to “Neo in the Matrix,” realizing much of what she believed was a “lie,” particularly during and after Covid.
  • Quote: “It felt a bit like Neo in the Matrix at first because I really did think that when you're on the left, you're the empathetic one... and then I started to watch the world invert.” (02:36 - Jillian Michaels)
• The role of personal relationships:
  • Michaels’s conservative spouse challenged her assumptions, provoking early conflicts but eventual rethinking.
• The moment of awakening is discussed:
  • Dave references the viral clip where being “beaten senseless with facts” (by Larry Elder) caused his rethink, stripping the emotional label from political identity.
  • Quote: “When you're that white Libtard. It's not that funny.” (05:11 - Dave Rubin)
• Adam Carolla asks why some, like them, can see and change, while others double-down.

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2. Is There Hope for California? The Rock Bottom Question (06:27–08:52)

• Carolla describes California's trajectory as a slow-motion disaster, awaiting the mythical "rock bottom" to prompt reform.
  • Uses a “rehab” analogy—why wait until total disaster to act?
  • Quote: “Why would you need [your son] to flatline before you got him into rehab?... Why do we have to call an ambulance?” (06:50 - Adam Carolla)
• Multiple disasters (fires, politics) failed to serve as wake-up calls.
• The panel questions if California is truly reformable or has chosen permanent dysfunction.

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3. Media & Narrative Control (18:42–21:02)

• Michaels reflects on the demonization of dissenting voices—how the left frames opponents as “racist, fascist, Nazis” and controls the discourse.
  • Personal story of podcast guest labeled unjustly online.
  • The power of media: “Everything they read, everything they see is, we are fascists, we are racists, we are Nazis. Oh, you want voter ID because you're racist. And when people tell you that enough... it's very hard to say, like, this is totally corrupted.” (18:57 - Jillian Michaels)
• The “conversion trigger” is often personal impact: people change positions only when policy or rhetoric affects their own lives.
  • She cites examples of liberal Iranians and disillusioned public figures like Sam Harris, who wake up when the consequences touch them personally.

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4. Ruminating on Doomscrolling, Culture Wars, and Life’s Balance (12:01–17:40; 21:52–26:33)

The Toll of Constant Political Stress

• Rubin asks how much mental space is taken up by politics.
  • Carolla, with humor: “I was a late starter. I didn't start ruminating until I was 15 and a half... probably ruminating maybe twice a week now, tops...” (12:26 - Adam Carolla)
  • Dave jokes Carolla doesn't know what “ruminate” means, leading to a playful exchange.
• Jillian Michaels admits constant worry, especially for her children’s future: “How often do I ruminate? All the time. All the time. Seriously... I think about the kids and the world that we're leaving them.” (15:16 - Jillian Michaels)

The ‘Dog at the Vet’ Analogy

• Carolla describes how he sees political opponents: He’s not angry but feels like someone trying to help, misunderstood as cruel.
  • Quote: “I feel with Democrats like when you take your dog to the veterinarian... I'm not trying to hurt you. I'm trying to help.” (16:19 - Adam Carolla)

Good/Evil Lens—Prager’s Quote

• Rubin invokes Dennis Prager: “The right thinks the left is wrong; the left thinks the right is evil.” (17:40 - Dave Rubin)
• Jillian connects: The media constructs these moral binaries, deepening polarization.

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5. Escaping the Cycle: Hobbies, Sanity, and Perspective (23:16–26:33)

• Adam Carolla advocates hobbies and tangible activities as antidotes to digital and cultural burnout.
  • Fondly recalls the era of local hobby shops and implores listeners to “pick a tool up,” do something tactile, and “have a hobby...that cannot be what people are saying about you.”
  • Quote: “Now everyone is just grubhub and doom scroll and what's on Twitter. You must get on your feet. You must pick a tool up... Projects, man, hobbies.” (24:21 - Adam Carolla)
• Michaels suggests a media “diet” reset—seek out positive, human stories and consciously change social media algorithms.
  • Encourages awareness without obsession: “If you're not paying attention, you're destined to be ruled over by idiots and monsters...but...they can't just be your media diet.” (25:09 - Jillian Michaels)
  • Endorses seeing the humanity in others: “The vast majority of us are good people. We just have different ideas of how to achieve similar goals.” (25:39 - Jillian Michaels)
  • Calls out algorithm-driven division: “It is designed to engage us in a horizontal fight so we never look up and fight the real enemy, which is Gavin Newsome, by the way, in case you were curious.” (26:24 - Jillian Michaels)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the culture shift:
  “Being obese became beautiful and healthy. And then Covid happened...I started to learn that all I had been ingesting was a lie.” (02:33 - Jillian Michaels)
• Carolla’s frustration with political inertia:
  “Now we're just arguing we're not gonna be corrected.” (08:51 - Adam Carolla)
• On being labeled:
  “Everything they read...we are fascists, we are racists, we are Nazis.” (18:57 - Jillian Michaels)
• Prager’s core insight:
  “The right thinks that the left is wrong, and the left thinks that the right is evil.” (17:40 - Dave Rubin)
• On fixing your algorithm:
  “Literally forcing the algorithm to show us those things instead of just look at this dumbass on the left and look at this racist on the right.” (25:17 - Jillian Michaels)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 01:57 – 06:27: Personal political journeys; leaving the left
• 06:27 – 08:52: California's decline, rock bottom analogy
• 12:01 – 17:40: How political craziness occupies the mind; ruminating; anxiety for the next generation
• 18:42 – 21:02: Media narratives and demonization; what causes people to switch sides
• 23:16 – 26:33: Escaping doomscrolling; importance of hobbies; algorithm hacks; optimism amidst chaos

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Tone & Style

The episode is marked by sharp humor (especially from Carolla), self-deprecation, and an undercurrent of genuine concern—for the country, for sanity, and for the next generation. Rubin facilitates with warmth, exaggerating differences playfully, and Michaels delivers earnest reflections peppered with cheeky comebacks.

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Takeaways

• Political and cultural “rock bottom” may be illusory; reform requires proactive action, not just waiting for catastrophe.
• Personal impact, not logic alone, is what “converts” people from entrenched positions.
• Maintaining perspective means balancing awareness and activism with hobbies, real-life relationships, and positive input.
• The fight is often more with dangerous groupthink and divisive algorithms than with individual opponents.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Adam Carolla]

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There he is. All right, my man. Oh. All right, first off, I want everybody in just a second particularly to give Jillian a big round of applause. Cause she, she cannot believe how great it is here in Florida. She literally at dinner sat there slack jawed the entire time going, it works, it works somewhere. I can't believe it. And of course, Adam, I wanted you to be here because you're the only person on planet earth who hates Gavin Newsom more than me. So.

[Adam Carolla]

I do. I think I do. Yeah.

[Dave Smith]

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[Adam Carolla]

I think I do. You do.

[Dave Smith]

All right, Jillian, let's start with you. Forehead, let's start with you because you have a very similar political journey as I do. You were of the left for years. I now on our other show, actual friends with Dr. Drew and Sage Steele, I'm always poking you like stop being a guilty lib. Come on, these Republicans aren't so bad. But you had a huge wake up largely around Covid and now you are amongst friends here in the free state of Florida. So tell us, what's it like to be a white supremacist?

[Jillian Michaels]

Well, you make great friends. So honestly, it felt a bit like Neo in the Matrix at first because I really did think that when you're on the left, you're the empathetic one. You're the good guy. You're the one that cares about people and happened to marry a conservative who let me know that that wasn't the case. And very many fights early on in our relationship. And then, of course, I started to watch the world invert. And all of a sudden, you know, up was down, right was left, literally. And being obese became beautiful and healthy. And then Covid happened, and that was another crazy moment for me. And then I started to learn that all I had been ingesting was a lie. That Covid did not come from a bat in a wet market. And it just. Russia, Russia, Russia wasn't real. And once that happens, I. I was watching a clip of Rogan and he's like, I now don't think we went to the moon. And I think that Michelle Obama has a penis. And it's like, this is you just. I'm like, this makes sense to me.

[Dave Smith]

Well, one of those two is right. You decide.

[Adam Carolla]

So I have a question for you too, because you're both uniquely qualified to answer this. And I don't mean to hijack the show, but I do talk to Dr. Drew about this a lot, which is it's so blatantly obvious what is going on now. And especially if you live in California and you see the decay and you see the decline and you remember what it was and you know what it is now. And so Dr. Drew and I speak constantly and we're always like, why don't the people who vote Democrat admit it and understand it? And then who are the people that are able to understand it, admit it, and change course? Sort of midlife, because I come from a group of die hard Democrats and they would never change their mind. And I know a lot of Hollywood types that are that way. But what is it about you two specifically? You know, you didn't change your mind when you were in college. You changed your mind as adults. How is it that you're able to do that and others are not able to do that? Now? It's obvious for you guys because you just see the evidence. But how come others can't do that?

[Dave Smith]

Well, I can't speak for others, but I mean, almost everyone in this room knows the exact moment when I switched, and it was when Larry Elder beat me senseless with facts about policing and white supremacy and systemic racism and all this stuff. And that video got put up and the next day it's being clipped and it's literally getting 10, 20, 50 million views. And all the titles say the exact same thing. Black conservative destroys White libtard. And when you're that white Libtard. It's not that funny. And then I just started talking to people. I just started talking to people that I thought were the bad guys. Shapiro, Prager, Jordan. All the people that I now know were the good guys. And they were kinder and more decent and everything else. And also, unlike you, I'm not friends with Jimmy Kimmel. So it was easy for me to.

[Jillian Michaels]

Wow.

[Dave Smith]

You knew. You knew there had to be one.

[Adam Carolla]

You knew I had to go.

[Dave Smith]

There had to be one. But you. All right, so you. You still live there. You still live in Cali. I remember you coming to my house at the height of COVID We're having one of our illegal parties. You said I made the best steak that you had ever had.

[Adam Carolla]

Not you. Your husband.

[Dave Smith]

Well, whatever.

[Adam Carolla]

Same name.

[Dave Smith]

It's very confusing.

[Adam Carolla]

It certainly is.

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[Dave Smith]

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[Adam Carolla]

I don't think so. So what I always said was the popular answer around California, and I grew up in la, was, when are we gonna change course? And the answer is, when we hit rock bottom. And then I always said, why do we have to hit rock bottom? If you had a teenage son and your teenage son was getting DUIs and getting arrested and he found heroin syringes in his nightstand, why would you need him to flatline before you got him into rehab? Why not just get him into rehab now before he flatlines? Why do we have to call an ambulance? Let's help him. We're adults, you know, so that was always kind of my answer. And then the fires hit. And then I thought, maybe this is our rock bottom. Maybe this is us burning to the ground. Maybe that's enough to flatten us out. And then there was some sort of Spencer Pratt excitement. And now we have two communists to choose from for mayor. Oh, sorry. One's a socialist, the other's a communist. I didn't mean to paint them with that broader brush. And, you know, if Steve Hilton cannot be governor and we end up with Javier Bacaria, I think at that point we could officially just throw the towel in. You know, I was like a corner man who's seen his fighter getting pummeled for 12 rounds holding that towel. But if Javier Becerra gets in as governor and we end up with Karen Bass as mayor of Los Angeles. And I think the towel has to go in at that point because at that point we're admitting we don't want to correct ourselves. We used to argue that we didn't need to be corrected. Now we're just arguing we're not gonna be corrected.

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Jillian. You come to this world from the health world, right? Like Jillian Michaels abs. Everybody had the VHS tapes. Like that's the world that you come from. VHS tapes, CD, DVD.

[Jillian Michaels]

They were DVDs.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, however, what are you doing, Jane Fonda? What are you doing?

[Jillian Michaels]

What are you doing to me right she's added 20 years to my life.

[Dave Smith]

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[Jillian Michaels]

She's in the old days with the gramophone.

[Adam Carolla]

Tell you what, she's lucky I'm gay. Otherwise I'd be all over this shit. Well, say that right now.

[Dave Smith]

What's going on in the world of health these days? Are you feeling good about the Maha thing? The Maha thing brought so many people over. Are you. Are you feeling good about what's going on?

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Jillian Michaels]

Honest answer. Trump is a businessman. We've won some. Some really good ones. We've lost some really bad ones. But what I can say is that I did work with the Clinton administration. Don't. Don't boom me. And I did work with the Obama administration in the same wheelhouse. It's my wheelhouse, guys. I would work with anybody, to be honest, if I could move the needle on policy that I think would be helpful in getting Americans healthier. And there were no win. So at least with Trump and Kennedy, we are getting some.

[Dave Smith]

I'm curious, Adam. How much time do you ruminate about all of this stuff? It's one of the things that Gillian and Drew and Sage and I are always talking about on actual Friends, like, how much of space in your brain do you think politics and culture war and all the lunacy that we're all dealing with all day long, how much space does that take in your brain? Because you strike me as pretty even keeled for someone in this biz.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I was a late starter. I didn't start ruminating until I was 15 and a half, and then I did it a lot when I was in my 20s. But over the years, I've slowed down a little bit. So I'm probably ruminating maybe twice a week now, tops, if that's what you're asking. I don't know why you bring it up in front of this crowd, but, you know, I might ruminate twice a day, but sometimes I pull a calf, you know, if I'm trying to do it twice a day. So I'm just sort of try to rehydrate and just try to keep it a couple times a week.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah. I'm not sure you know what the word ruminate means.

[Adam Carolla]

I think I know what it means. Sometimes I'll do it just take the tension off, you know, before I hit the stage. Not tonight. Not tonight, obviously, but there happen nights. Yeah.

[Dave Smith]

So same question, Gillian.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. I had ruminated. It saddens me that we here's what I ruminate on. And here's what bothers me. We do something, and then we undo it, and then we do something, and then we undo it because it seems wildly inefficient. So we have a wide open border, and then Trump gets elected, and he says, I'm building a border wall, and he drags out $200 billion worth of steel and concrete and high beams down to the border, and then he loses the next election. And then Biden says, we're not building a wall because they don't keep anyone out for some reason. And then he sells all the stuff off for scrap, and then the border's wide open, and then 10 million people come over, and then Trump gets elected again, and he goes, we're building a border wall, and we drag all the steel back to the border again. That life of just literally picking up all the garbage in the park, putting in the trash can and then dumping it out again and blowing with the fan, and then the next person comes in and starts picking the garbage up again, and then the next person throws the garbage can. It's an insane way to live. It's insanely wasteful, but it's super frustrating, too. Just make a rule, stick with the rule, figure out what works, do it, and get the fuck on with your life. Ruminate on that shit.

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[Dave Smith]

Jillian, I feel like you can give me the slightly more sensitive answer on that one.

[Adam Carolla]

Girls don't ruminate.

[Jillian Michaels]

That's a total lie.

[Adam Carolla]

I've never heard, like, the 1950s, I've never heard of. I saw a movie where they pretended

[Jillian Michaels]

to ruminate, and in fact, rumor has it that women ruminate more often than men, I'll have you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's so much easier for you guys.

[Jillian Michaels]

Not going to argue with that.

[Adam Carolla]

Literally.

[Jillian Michaels]

How often do I ruminate? All the time. All the time. Seriously, on the actual question. All the time. I think, because mostly selfishly, because I have two kids and I, you know, was talking to my son today. He's only 14, but he's very political.

[Adam Carolla]

He's going to start ruminating soon.

[Dave Smith]

I think it's.

[Jillian Michaels]

Listen, I don't want to think about that, but. Oh, God, no, I will not. No. Moving swiftly onward, Adam, I think about the kids and the world that we're leaving them. And I know it sounds cliche, but, you know, I was telling my son, I'm like, honey, if. If this happens with Nithya Raman and Becerra, that's.

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[Jillian Michaels]

Same, same conversation. I was like, that's it. Then where do you want to go to college? We're buying you a house, wherever that is now. And that's it. Like, I. I want to get the kids set up. I worry about them. I worry about them making a living in this environment. I worry about the political climate. I. I worry about all of it all the time. It's terrible, actually.

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[Adam Carolla]

Do you guys? I, I. So I was given this analogy on my podcast the other day, but I don't know if you guys think this way, which is, like, all the Democrats that are around me, they're. They're thinking they're doing the right thing, and they think I'm just on the other side. Like, I'm just Team Trump. I hate Democrats. I hate freedom, I hate whatever. And really what I feel like is I don't hate any of you. I'm trying to save you. Like, I'm trying to do what's right. I'm. I don't wanna do this. I wish I didn't have to do it. And tell me if this fits, but this is the way I feel. I feel with Democrats. Like, when you take your dog to the veterinarian, and the vet's like, hold him down. I gotta put drops in his eyes. And the dog's like, no, no. And you're like, it's good for you. It's good for you. Just listen to me. I'm trying to help. I'm trying to help you. And the dog's like, why are you hurting me? And it's like, I'm not mean. I'm not trying to hurt you. I'm trying to help. You just don't understand. This is good for you. And I feel that way about LA and California and almost all blue cities. Like, I'm not arguing with you. I just don't want to destroy this world we're living in.

[Dave Smith]

You know, it reminds me of what our friend, the great. He's a little under the weather at the moment, but the great Dennis Prager has often said, which is that, yeah, Dennis,

[Adam Carolla]

just as his son's out there.

[Dave Smith]

Oh, right. David Prager. Dennis son's here. And Dennis is just. If you pray, throw in a little extra one for Dennis. I'm sure many of you know he took a spill about a year and a half ago. It was right after the election, and he's basically quadriplegic at the moment. But I will tell you, I saw him just a few weeks ago, and the same smile, the same sense of humor, the same joy. I left happy. I Honestly, I was worried about. Cause we were going to a wedding right after.

[Adam Carolla]

I was like, I don't know if

[Dave Smith]

I should go there right now, but absolute joy. But one of the things he's been saying for 40 years is that the right thinks that the left is wrong, and the left thinks that the right is evil. And I think that that fundamentally catches it. And, Gillian, I can see why that would resonate with you as somebody kind of joining the party now.

[Jillian Michaels]

But that's what all the news they watch tells them, that every single thing. It was funny. I interviewed this. He's like, literally a political satirist. He's an Internet phenom. This young man named Josh Seider. And my team had not heard of him. They were listening to the podcast, and he's actually brilliant. And when they were trying to put his lower third up before the podcast, everything online is like, racist, bipolar, mentally ill. And he's actually like this very deep thinking, very well educated, went to law school, political satirist. But everything they read, everything they see is, we are fascists, we are racists, we are Nazis. Oh, you want voter ID because you're racist. And when people tell you that enough. And it comes from sources like cnn, the New York Times, Time Magazine, it's very hard to say, like, this is totally corrupted. They look at you like, you know, you've got a tinfoil hat on and you went all the way down the rabbit hole. So it's. It takes a lot of time. And what I think actually converts. Adam, to answer your honest question, what I think converts a person on the left is when it comes for them. And I'll give you an example. I have watched online gay Iranians, literally who are liberal. We covered one on actual friends who are now just horrified at what the Democrats are saying about Iran and denying the fact that tens of thousands of Persians have been killed by the regime. I just watched Sam Cedar and. I'm sorry, Sam Harris, and he's horrified that the left is embracing Hasan Piker. He cannot wrap his head around it. And he's like, I don't understand this. Like, what are you doing? This is suicide for the party. And I'm thinking, is this. This is the thing that just woke you up? Like, for me, I don't know, it was when they were transing children, trying to take the First Amendment. If you questioned where Covid came from, like, wide open borders, none of that bothered you. Like, this is your moment. But it still got him. It finally came for him. It seeped all the way into his universe. And it's. It comes for everyone. Let's just hope it's not too late.

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[Dave Smith]

All right, one more for you guys. I feel like this will kind of bring everything together. It's pretty good. Outside of all this, is that basically what endless doom scrolling has caused us all to forget? That life is actually pretty good because we can't seem to, as a culture, disconnect from all the political craziness. People always ask me, dave, how you doing? I'm like, wow, my life is great. My family's good. What goes on in the four walls of my house are great. I deal with nonsense for a living. And so what's that?

[Jillian Michaels]

I live in Florida.

[Dave Smith]

And I live in Florida. That's right. And I never forget it. I mean, honestly, that is half my answer is, and I live in the free state of Florida. But so many people just seem to be unable to get out of that and have it consumed. So in some sense, it's sort of the rumination question, but a slightly altered version.

[Adam Carolla]

You got more than four walls, by the way. He has probably like 11 walls because he has 9,000 square feet.

[Dave Smith]

All right.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. He doesn't live in a blimp hangar is what I'm saying. It's got different walls, but I get the metaphor. You're saying inside your house.

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[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we should just sit under my roof because then really, I couldn't pick it apart that way because it's just one roof.

[Dave Smith]

I forgot that I was talking to a contractor who's proving why so many people love contractors the way that they do now.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a difference between ceiling joists and roof rafters. And we'll get into that after the show. It's a Q and A I promise. Thank you. You know, I think it's really more important than ever that people have hobbies. And I know it sounds trite, but to have a thing you do that is not the Internet. It's not cnn, and it's not Fox. It's not even your husband, your wife, or whatever it is. It's you in the garage. It's you refinishing that old canoe. It's you rebuilding that old 34 Ford pickup truck, or it's building a tree house with your kid, or it's whatever it is. I. I love the fact that women have gotten back to needlepoint. There's so many. Harmeet Dhillon has made me two ski beanies so far. Two ski beanies. That's love. So I think if we're just talking sort of generally how to keep sane in this incredibly insane world. Projects, man, hobbies. We used to have them. There used to be a hobby store on every corner in every town. Like, when I was a kid. It wasn't big hobby lobby stuff either. It was like Mon Pa, thousand square footer. Always had that smell of the hobby shop in it. And you'd go there and you had your little projects, and now everyone is just grubhub and Doom scroll and what's on Twitter. You must get on your feet. You must pick a tool up. You must do things that are tangible and tactile, and you must have a hobby. And that hobby cannot be you and what people are saying about you. Thank you,

[Dave Smith]

Jillian. That's going to be tough to beat, but same question to bring us home.

[Jillian Michaels]

Okay, first, I think it is important that you are aware of what's going on in the world. But everything is a balance, right? Because if you don't know what's going on. I think Jesse Kelly said this to me. If you're not paying attention, you're destined to be ruled over by idiots and monsters, and that's unacceptable. We have to pay attention. We have to fight back. But simultaneously, they can't just be your media diet. And sometimes, literally, I will forcibly change my algorithm and watch people do incredible deeds for each other. Just put in, like, inspiration, people doing good. And we've started to put that at the end of our podcast. So people are like, oh, look. Look at all these people doing beautiful things for each other from different walks of life. And it reminds you that the vast majority of us are good people. We just have different ideas of how to achieve similar goals. And we gotta keep seeing the humanity in each other and forcing, literally forcing the algorithm to show us those things instead of just look at this dumbass on the left and look at this racist on the right. That's engineered. Fight back against that algorithm. It is designed to engage us in a horizontal fight so we never look up and fight the real enemy, which is Gavin Newsome, by the way, in case you were curious.

[Dave Smith]

Guys, make some noise. From Adam Corolla, Jillian Michaels, thank you. I'll finish up for a moment solo as I do on the show. Adam, you could take the whole bottle. Take, take the bottle. Thank you guys.

[Adam Carolla]

Thanks, my brother. Thank you.

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