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Dave Rubin
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Dave Rubin
Dave, what are you looking at? I was just buying tickets to Dave Rubin, Ron Desantis, Ben Shapiro, Adam Kroll and Jillian Michaels at the Fillmore Miami beach on June 11th at davrubin.com events. Why, hello there, I'm Dave Rubin. This is the Rubin report. It is May 21, 2026. And yes, ladles and jelly spoons, we are doing something very special for you. Starting today through Monday, this will be the one and only sale. A whole bunch of people were saying, dave, I really want to go to the thing. Ticket prices are a little high. It's just how it works at a theater. We will do 25% off, no code needed. If you go right now to davrubin.com events, we're doing that in honor of Memorial Day. That'll be through Monday, Memorial Day, and we hope to see you there. It is going to be a blast. We got a great show for you today. You know what I always say about hosts that say we got a great show for you and they give you the same old boring nonsense. We actually have a great show for you today. That's why I don't say it that often. I let you decide. I'm making, I'm calling it right now. Great show today. Let's dive in. The big viral thing on the Internet yesterday, leaking into today is that Jeff Bezos, who, who obviously runs Amazon and is a gajillionaire with all sorts of money and running many different businesses that do a lot of good for people and help you get products fast and everything else. And he's revolutionized industries and everything. He's hated by the Democrats and the progressives, cuz he's got some cash and they don't like that very much, even though he's done an awful lot of good and employs a tremendous amount of people, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, he doesn't do a ton of press, this guy, but he did sit down with Andrew Ross Sorkin on cnbc. We're gonna show you a couple clips here. Cause they were all going viral for various reasons, you know, because as we've seen the. God, it's sad to say, as we've seen the rise of Mamdami and the rise of socialism and communism. And we do know that a certain set of young people who have been brainwashed by an absolutely terrible public education system are thinking that the ideas of collectivism and Marxism and communism and all that, they're thinking that is good. They are thinking that is the future. They think that capitalism and freedom and ch. All of those things are bad. It's bubbling up whether we like it or not. And we are going to have to make better cases for capitalism. We are going to have to make better cases for freedom. And actually we're going to have to make a better case for the United States of America as a whole. So it was, I think, very refreshing to see a guy like Bezos. Elon's really the billionaire that's out there every day fighting on this stuff publicly. But it was nice to see Bezos step into it. And here he is with some interesting ideas as it relates to federal income tax.
Jeff Bezos
We'll talk about making the tax system more progressive. How about we start by having the nurse in Queens not pay taxes? Why somebody at all? Why is some. Why is a nurse in Queens who makes $75,000 a year paying more than $1,000 a month in taxes? That's $1,000 a month that could help with rent or groceries or anything. And so. And by the way, do you know what that all adds up to? The bottom half of income earners in this country pay only 3% of the taxes. It's only 3%. We can find 3%. So we don't have. It's a small amount of money for the government. You know that. And really it's. And the more I thought about it, to me it's kind of absurd that we're doing this.
Dave Rubin
Okay? So I'm telling you guys something interesting is happening here related to narrative. You guys know I like narrative stuff. It is not just random happenstance that Jeff Bezos who runs Amazon, how many people does he employ? His companies? Let's find that out. We know that Elon employs 144,000. I'm going to guess that Bezos. Maybe it's even more than that. Yeah, my guess is more. My guess is more. Am I right? 1.5 million people are employed by Jeff Bezos. It is not just some strange coincidence. Or I had a little free time. Let me sit down with you, cnbc. That he showed up there and made a case for a progressive tax, what they call a progressive tax. And he's making an interesting argument because the bottom people pay virtually nothing as is. So there might be a way at that point to give them even more relief. You might argue that's not fair. You might argue that the top people pay too much already and everything else. But having one of the richest, most influential guys in the world basically acknowledge something, offer a little something to the progressives is just an interesting note. So remember that. He then followed it up with a tweet that lays it out. Yes, the United States has the most progressive tax system in the world. The top 1% pay 40% of taxes. The bottom 50% pay 3% of taxes. We can make it even more progressive by zeroing out taxes on the bottom half. It's a small amount of the total tax revenue, but very meaningful to people in this group. So this is very interesting to me now. First off, we've checked the numbers a million times. The number I keep quoting is that the top 1% pay 47%. That he's saying 40 there, it doesn't matter. So let's just throw that away as an accounting error. About 40 to 47%, the 1% are paying that, right? So a tiny amount of people pay basically half the taxes. What he's then saying is that bottom 50%, they only pay 3. But that percent, the totality of that money is so small, let's give them a little more help. Now, this is throwing a bone to the socialists, in a sense, it's throwing a bone to the Democratic base. I don't know that that works, actually. But I think it's an interesting idea if you were just to say, you know what, these people on the bottom end of this, the nurse, let's say that's making 75 grand instead of her paying that federal tax rate that no one can get out of paying federal taxes. Right. State taxes are different depending on where you live. But instead of that thousand bucks a month that she's paying federally, if she could keep that, well, actually she could start saving more. She would have a little more money to go on vacation or do whatever she wanted with. Now, the real question to me is, if you throw the progressives a bone, are they satiated in any way? My answer to that probably would be no. I do want to quote one of my favorite books. This came out in 2016. I'm telling you, it's a banger. It was called Don't Burn this book by Dave Rubin. And I wrote a bit about what I thought on taxes. And it's interesting because Bezos is coming to a very similar position. I wrote let's go even further. I'd minimize what the government gets by reducing the federal tax rate to a flat 18% for everyone, including big earners. With just a tiny handful of exceptions, those who make under 50,000 could pay 7% tax, while anyone banking more than 5 million can contribute 20%. And for the really poor, say less than 25,000 annually, they can get a free ride zero tax. So my position, it's the Steve Forbes position of decades ago, is flat tax is the only way to. If we want to do something fair, right? Burning fair share. Fair share. You want to do something fair, the only fair way to do it would be you pick a percentage and everybody pays that percentage. So if you make 10 mil a year, you're paying whatever it is, 12%, let's say. And if you make 100 grand a year or 50 grand a year, you're paying 12%. That would be the only fair thing to do because it's just a percentage. And the amount of money that you bring in at the end of the year is, you know, you're paying just that percentage. So you make more, you're paying more. Simple as that. However, I'm making in some sense the same argument 10 years ago that Bezos is making now. Whether you want to say it's 75,000 and then you don't pay taxes or it's 50,000 or whatever, that's kind of irrelevant. But if the question really is this, they're not going to go for a flat tax like I'm offering something, that's a bit of a pipe dream in some sense, unfortunately, that would be the fairest way to do it. But the idea that the top 1% are paying this huge amount, could you basically zero out a set of people so they have a little bit more and make it work? The answer to that is probably yes. But now here's where it gets interesting. Because as I keep saying, no matter what you do with the progressives, like Bezos can call for that. And you think any of the progressives are suddenly going to be like, okay, billionaires are great. No, he knows they want his head no matter what. So where it gets interesting is with this next clip, because here he is trying to explain that no matter how much you take of his money or these high earners who employ 1.5 million people and build incredible things like Amazon. Whether you like Amazon or not, whether you think it put out small businesses, and that is obviously true to some extent. But did it also ensure that if you order a shop, shoelace, that will come at 3:00am that night? Yeah. So it is what it is. And by the way, they've become the marketplace. So many small businesses actually sell on Amazon. So it's not as simple as just saying, oh, they've taken out the little guy. It really is not. But in any event, I think what Bezos is realizing is he has to offer something to the kind of crazy communist base. But he also, I think, realizes he has to kind of teach them a little bit. We all do. We have to teach these people that it's not really a revenue issue. It's not that the government doesn't have enough money. It's a crazy spending issue. So no matter how much you take from this guy, it's not going to solve the problems. Here he is on that.
Jeff Bezos
I don't pay taxes. So true. I pay billions of dollars in taxes. And it's a perfect. Again, if people want me to pay more billions. Right, then let's have that debate. But don't pretend you know that this. That that's going to solve the problem. You could. You could double the taxes I pay, and it's not going to help that teacher in Queens, I promise you. This is. So you can't connect those two things. Not logically. You know, there are more examples. Why is rent expensive? Why is rent so expensive? I recently saw somebody blamed it on Airbnb. Okay. Airbnb is not the cost of expensive rent. In fact, it's been almost none of this. One sec. It's already been outlawed in New York City, and rents are still very high. So we know Airbnb isn't causing high rents. What's really causing high rent is government intervention.
Dave Rubin
Ah, okay, so this is good now, because he's trying to explain things, and hopefully some of this will get to these younger people who are confused about a lot of the issues. He's right. Okay, so congratulations, Elizabeth Warren, who's worth 20 million bucks. You want to take another billion a year from this guy? As if. And also, I don't know how much cash he has just sitting around, but it's usually locked up in a whole bunch of things. But let's just say you could take another billion from this guy. Would it solve anything? We all know that is not true. Again, it is a spending issue, not a revenue issue, which is also curious as to why they never want us to look into fraud. We've got the Trump administration going. Let's look at the books right now. Let's see if any of the money that we pour into these things even make sense. And we're finding out that it doesn't. For example, a third of the hospices in the United States are literally in Los Angeles, one city. And Dr. Oz is showing that there are hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars of fraud right there just in and of just that alone, plus the Somali stuff in Minnesota and everything else. Okay, but his argument is, well, you could take more of my money and it wouldn't do anything. And then he connects that to the housing issue. Well, of course, he's right. The government has created the housing problem. They do in, particularly in blue cities. All sorts of crazy regulations, high taxes on corporations. So these companies that come in and might want to knock a building down and build something, suddenly they realize they're caught up in all this zoning stuff and regulation stuff. Oh, and then they realize there's all this quote, unquote, affordable housing. So you can't even rent those apartments for market rate. So you're going to make less. It's going to take you more time to build things, and it's going to be much more complex to build. And then suddenly you're like, I'm just
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Dave Rubin
Not gonna build here. And then you wonder why these companies are leaving. So again, he's right about that, too. Now, of course, Communist leader Zorhan Mamdami saw that clip and he wrote, I know a few teachers in Queens who would beg to differ. The implication, because what Bezos said was, if you double my taxes, it's not going to help the teacher in Queens. And Mamdami is like, well, the teachers want that money. Well, you're right, I guess. Mamdani, I can't believe I'm going to say this. The teachers, because they've been brainwashed by the ridiculous system too. They might beg to differ. They might think that if they just got more of Bezos money they would be okay. But it's just not true. Ironically, Bezos is the one trying to actually offer them something which is zero hours their federal tax rate. If you mom dummy wanted to help those teachers, I don't know, you could push for eliminating New York City tax. You could talk to Hochul, eliminate New York State tax. But you guys will never ever do that. Don't take my word for any of this spending revenue stuff. Go to Thomas Sowell, the great economist from Stanford, Thomas Sowell. The real goal should be reduced government spending rather than balance budgets. Balance budgets achieved every year by raising taxes to cover ever rising spending. That's the point. That's the point. You want to reduce government spending, you want to keep more of your money. I have a feeling that you person watching this on the other side of the screen, if you had a few more of your own dollars that you worked for, you'd figure out what to do with it and it would be better than sending it to the government. So here you have one of the richest people on earth. Where does he fall on richest people on earth? He's gotta be top three, right? Gotta be top three, if not number one. Now I think Elon's still number one. It bounces around. But point is, you have one of the richest, most influential guys in the world offering something to the crazy progressives will zero out your taxes. He's even saying I would even pay a little bit more. It's not just or Right, right. There is no fair share. I mean this is where, this is where these guys could run into trouble. Because if Bezos or Elon or any of these guys was just like, you know what, take more of mine, we'll all do another 5%. Well, what do you think the progressives in five years are going to say? They're going to say, oh no, we want another 5% now and another 5. It will never, never end. There's another interesting clip that came out of this because you remember about a week or so ago we played you the clip of AOC on a podcast. And the woman, she is so dim and dumb and has no qualifications for anything, thus she's a perfect Democrat, where she was talking about how Elon and these other billionaires that the only way they became billionaires is because they've been stealing, that they're doing it off the backs of the workers and they've obviously been Doing immoral and or illegal things to become so rich. Here's Bezos debunking that.
Andrew Ross Sorkin
Let me ask you about the anger, because there seems to be anger, at least from certain political sides of this in AOC recently said in a podcast. And Mr. Curious how you think about this, says there's a certain level of wealth and accumulation that is unearned. She says you can't earn a billion dollars, just can't earn that. She says you can get market power, you can break rules, you can abuse labor laws, you can pay people less than what they're worth, but you can't earn that. You, by the way, you earned extra extraordinary amount of money. You employ largest employer, if not one of them in the whole country. When you read that, what do you think?
Jeff Bezos
Well, it's, it's, it's not cracked on its face.
Dave Rubin
All right, well, we'll explain it a little bit for you. We should have showed a more extended clip of his answer. But the point of the question is that she's saying you have to break rules. Okay, what rule did Jeff Bezos break when he had the brilliant idea, however many years ago, to start Amazon? Which Amazon, if you remember, for those of you that have been around the Internet for a while, Amazon started as a book. It was a digital book marketplace. And then he turned it into this freaking amazing thing. What labor laws is he abusing? Actually, Amazon employees are paid a decent wage, and let's not forget that. What about five, six years ago they were going to have a giant distribution center in, I think it was in Long Island City, and it was going to imply about employ about 40,000 people. And she AOC led the charge to close it. Thus, those 40,000 people did not get jobs. To reference something I mentioned earlier, Bezos is number two in terms of world's richest. Elon is number one. Right now, Bezos is worth $270 billion. And it's an unbelievably insane amount of money. It is. It's unimaginable. It's literally unimaginable. The guy can buy and do anything he wants, but that doesn't mean he cheated to do it. And also when, you know, I saw a lot of people over the last couple days tweeting out a picture of Jeff Bezos yacht. And apparently it's a $500 million yacht. And it's like he has no right to that. Just imagine what we could do with that 500 million. Well, first off, the 500 million is not yours. That's number one. Number two. You know how many people it takes to build a yacht? You know how many engineers you need and electricians and plumbers and highly skilled people who know how to build boats and not have them sit and all of the other stuff. You know how many people probably work. Dozens, dozens, if not hundreds of people that quite literally work on that boat every day. The amount of staff on that boat, the amount of money that goes through it because he has parties on it or anything else, it's like that's what makes the economy work. Stop being so freaking envious and jealous. It's just crazy. Here's the more extended version where he debunks AOC's claim. He uses an example of billionaires or someone creating a burger joint. Take a look.
Jeff Bezos
Let me give you a simple example. Let's say you start a burger joint and you have 10 employees and you make a little bit of money, right? Until you have this. Is this one. One outlet. And by the way, these are the most delicious burgers in the world. People love your burgers, Andrew. And so then you open a second outlet, right? And now you're making a little bit more money and you have 20 employees, and you open a third outlet. By the time you've opened a thousand outlets, you are a billionaire, right? And by the way, this is a real life story. It happens all the time. It's in and out burger. It's, you know, raising Cane's chicken. At what point did that money all of a sudden become unethical or it didn't. There was one outlet and there were two, and then there were three. What you're doing, the way. The way you make a billion dollars or $100 million or $10 million or anything, is you create a service that people love. And if millions of people choose your service, you're going to end up with a billion dollars. And you can, you know, just try it with a chicken franchise, guys.
Dave Rubin
How crazy is that? He's explaining what a high school kid should learn, right? You know, did they teach economics in high school? They probably don't anymore. But what you should learn in econ 101, that's all he did right there, right? You have a small business making a little money, then you have two, then you have three. Can we start carrying the one? And you start realizing that, you know, I've still never been to raising canes. All right, we are going to have chicken fingers tomorrow. Not today, not today. Can't do it today. If I'm going to have chicken fingers, fried chicken fingers. We Got to prepare. It's going to be, I need a little window. But that's the point, right? You create something great. How did the McDonald's guys do it? Go watch that movie. It was the founder, right? And it was messy and there were contractual fights and everything else, but they built something that was extraordinary and worldwide. Right. He mentioned in N out raising canes. It's not just food things. When you create footlocker, quite literally anything. Did these people cheat along the way to do it. And the alternative would be that, okay, you're not. What would be the alternative? You're not allowed to do it. The government will decide how many burger joints there should be and how many places you should buy shoes. Well, actually that's communism, which is why you end up waiting online for a potato. And generally the potato is not that good. Let's do one more from Jeff Bezos.
Jeff Bezos
If I do my job right, the value to society and civilization, utilization from my for profit companies will be much, much larger than the, than the good that I do with my charitable giving. And I think this is an important point to make because people, people forget or they sometimes don't see that when, you know, when you create something like Amazon and you're saving. I get letters from new mothers all over the time that say, like, I have no idea what I would be doing right now if I didn't have Amazon.
Dave Rubin
Thank you.
Jeff Bezos
Or what we did in the pandemic when people could really see what an essential service we provided to them.
Dave Rubin
Yeah. And by the way, guys, that service is going to continue to change. You know, right now. Like I'm always talking about this AI and robotics revolution that we're on right now. You know, Amazon drivers, some of them are going to lose their job over the next year, 2, 3, 4, because of drones will start delivering things. Eventually robots will be doing it. Eventually the car will not even have a driver. There's going to be changes. And that's quite literally what the world is. The printing press comes, it changed a lot of stuff. Radio came, TV came. Like, things change. Refrigeration, air conditioning, things change. And humans have to adapt with it. So here you have a guy that's in stop. What I would say to someone who's confused about all of this is, is why do you hate the innovators so much? Why do you hate the guys who are out there creating things? Elon Musk saw that video and he just retweeted it, wrote, bravo, Jeff Bezos. And you might say, well, that's some self Preservation by him. But no, it's actually just the truth. Let me give you just a little personal version of this. You may have seen my interview two weeks ago with Joe Lonsdale from 8 BC. He's a great guy, co founded Palantir with Thiel, did a whole bunch of things. And I think he's in the billionaire class. We sat down, we had a great conversation. I've had him on many times and I've been to his house. I was on his podcast at his house maybe a year ago. He has an indoor basketball court. It is literally my dream. It is my dream to have an indoor basketball court. His court is stunningly gorgeous with high ceilings and corner threes and everything I could possibly ever want. I went on that court. And I kid you not, I did not feel jealousy for one second. The second I got on the court, I was like, I want this and I'm going to figure out a way to get it. And I said that to him and he goes, you will figure out a way to get it. And then when he was in this studio a year later, he goes, so you're on your way to get in the court yet? And that is something that I want. And I'm setting my goals to do it, and I'm going to do it one day. And that's what freedom and dreaming and passion is all about. And go do things and you never know what will happen. And Lonsdale, when I created Locals, he put in a tiny bit of money and then we made him some money on it. And then I've done something else that he now has invested in, and it's like, that's how you do it. And a lot of the things that these guys invest in turn into nothing. For all the things that hit where they get their thousand multiple, they probably most of them, I don't know what the exact numbers are, but most of them probably have 50 or 100 things that zero hours out that they lose all of their money on, Right? So the main issue here is that envy and jealousy and complete confusion about basic economics. But even more than that, the human condition, the progressives don't seem to understand the human condition. People want and deserve to keep more of what's theirs so that they can do what they want. But if you are just constantly looking at somebody who's got more than you and trying to figure out how to destroy, destroy them or take from them, and you're doing it while pretending you're the good guy, I would say you need to see a Therapist. And speaking of therapists, let's further, let's keep talking about the Democrats. So this is interesting. This is interesting. Now, you know that we played in the video yesterday where aoc, standing behind that bulletproof glass was talking about how the north, she basically said the north is going to have to invade the South. You know, basically the north is going to have to take, teach the south because the implication being the south is still backwards and racist and everything else. Well, as you know, the Supreme Court about a week and a half ago ruled in the Louisiana case that states cannot do districting based on race. It's hard to believe that that was even still allowed, but the Supreme Court said, no, race cannot be a factor when you are deciding these districts. The Democrats are very upset about this because they like racism in the system, ironically. And here's Temu Obama, Hakeem Jeffries saying that black athletes should now boycott Southern schools.
Todd Blanche
In the absence of fairness as it relates to black political representation, there should be no athletic participation as it relates to institutions that are housed in states that are experiencing a dream, dramatic return to racially oppressive Jim Crow like tactics. These universities should feel compelled to speak up.
Dave Rubin
Horrible people. Do you understand that when this, when the Supreme Court ruling came down that the first thing that happened is that Tennessee, where they had this crazy racial districting, Steve Cohen, who's white but was getting elected in a mostly black neighborhood, he decided not to run for reelection. So what are you talking about about black representation? And why do you want racism in the system? Do you want it so that forget black for a second. Would you want it so that in Koreatown in New York City that that should have it? Well, there's a whole bunch of Koreans there, so we should have a special district for them so they can just elect Korean people. It's completely and utterly absurd and it's racist. But if this is what they're going to do, they're going to guilt a young black. So there's some young black kid out there right now who's gonna have less choice based on what Hakeem wants. Right. Like there's an awful lot of black athletes playing basketball, let's say. Okay. Right. And some of them might want to go to school. Tennessee, pretty good school. Some of them might want to go to Duke somewhere down south. Right. There's all sorts of things you could do. And you're going to say to them, don't do that because we're not allowing for districting based on race anymore. But if that's what you're going to do. And all the black people have to be in the north and all the white people have to be in the South. I guess the south will be very good at golf and the black. And the north will be good at basketball. All right. It's not the worst situation in the world, I guess. Anyway, these people are just ridiculous. And if you want an even more ridiculous than Thibault Obama. And yes, we're going back to Jim Crow and it's all so boring. Here's Ayanna Pressley, one of the members of the Hamas squad. And well, we owe an awful lot to black people, but also cash. Give them cash.
Ayanna Pressley
Absolutely. I mean, not one promise has been kept to black Americans in this country when every bit of prosperity you enjoy was built on our backs. 400 years of labor for free and we never got our 40 acres and a mule. And we are still, you know, harmed by practices like redlining and appraisal bias. And so we are long overdue for reparations.
Dave Rubin
Reparations. So you want people who are not slaves now, whose parents were not slaves to take money from people who don't own slaves, whose parents didn't own slaves. And it's quite possible we have my family track back to actually on my mom's side, I think, to late 1600s. Believe it or not, nobody in my family ever owned a slave. Why would I pay you for that? I don't think I have to analyze this very much more. I would just offer this two second clip from Judge Smales. Ted Knight in Caddyshack.
Ted Knight (Caddyshack clip)
You'll get nothing in like him.
Dave Rubin
Did that work? It worked, yeah. Okay, can we throw it one more time? It's a Ted Knight. He was just so damn good.
Ted Knight (Caddyshack clip)
You'll get nothing and like it.
Dave Rubin
You'll get. You'll get nothing and like it. Yeah, you just know. Sorry. I'm sorry. The only thing a fair society can do is make all laws equal for everybody. You guys are apoplectic right now because there was a racial gerrymandering situation and we're removing it. We're removing it. It is just profoundly absurd. There's also another problem right now because you've created a situation, particularly in blue cities, where people are jealous, they're envious, they feel that they can, I don't know, burn down a store whenever they want. They can loot whenever they want. They can do drugs on the street and everything else. So now we're going to show you a couple of videos here. There's a compilation. These have been Going mega viral. But this is happening all over the country right now. Here are several teen tapes takeovers in multiple cities. And the question is, why are these kids doing this? Hey, guys.
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Ted Knight (Caddyshack clip)
That guy's car.
Ayanna Pressley
It's a lot of.
Dave Rubin
The place. All of those cities. Is Tampa Democrat. Could Tampa possibly be Democrat? You know, we do have one or two. I don't think it is. But Detroit, Chicago, Long Branch, Washington, D.C. are all Democrat run cities. I'm not even gonna bring the racial component to this, but what is happening when young? I don't know. You tell young people, capitalism's bad, America's bad, our founding was bad. And I don't know, maybe there was an outage at the PlayStation Store and everybody was like, you know what? What do we have to do? Let's go burn some shit. We have to fix this. We have to fix it quickly. Is Tampa Democrat run Tampa? All right, so Tampa is largely purple right now. So obviously these things are not. They can happen in red cities too. But the places where this general sense of mayhem can just burst forth at any moment generally is Democrat run places. Now I want to jump a little more to the fraud component of all this, because all, all these things are connected, right? The confusion about economics, that's one piece. Then when you see sort of mayhem on streets, whether it's drug addicts and homeless people or just young kids deciding to burn down the local strip mall because they can't play Crash Bandicoot. How is that for a reference? That was pretty good, right? Or the fact that there is so much freaking fraud in the system. And the guy who really shined the light on the fraud in the system, of course, was Nick Shirley. And look at this. This tweet and video from him. Here's your daily reminder that your tax dollars are going to men like this who run daycares who can't even answer a basic question about the 2.25 million they receive from our tax dollars. I believe we have the video.
Audience Member / Guest
No, no, no, no. You don't ask me nothing, man.
Jeff Bezos
$2.25 million.
Audience Member / Guest
Get out, get out, you guys. Get out. Get out, get out. What are you looking for? Get out, get out, get out. Guys, get out.
Dave Rubin
So you understand what's going on here? The government gave those fellas $2.25 million. Nick Shirley showed up and said, so can you show me the child daycare? You guys seem great. You seem like you'd be great with kids. Could you show me where the kids are? Get out, get out, get out, get out. You see why this is a problem and you see why the Democrats, they always want more money. They never want to look at where the money's going, right? Medicare for all. Okay, well, that's nice to say. Will it work? Are there enough doctors? Is it going to create an endless log of paperwork? Does any of this even make sense? Who's going to pay for it? They don't care about how much fraud is in the system. Why are a third of the hospices in the country in one city? They just don't care about any of these things. Nick Shirley went on to Will Cain's show to explain a bit more about that circus situation that's going on over
Will Cain
there about where all this fraud's taking place. It's literally not even a 10 mile radius where most of this fraud took place. It's within like a two mile radius. And this is all around where she, her congressional district. And so for her to say that she didn't know about this fraud is such a lie. And she's obviously trying to cover her face. I mean, look at her net worth. It just went down by $29 million.
Dave Rubin
Yeah.
John Kennedy
And we know that she had a relationship with many of the individuals involved in this, had campaign rallies at various restaurants connected to this and so forth.
Dave Rubin
Yeah, he's obviously talking about Ilhan Omar right there. And yes, what he referenced, her net worth went down by $20 million. Remember she filed that she was worth $30 million and then they, she basically was confronted about it because of her fraudulent winery and all this other stuff. And she was like, oh, there was an accounting error and it turns out that that 30 million doesn't exist. On top of all the fraud that Tim Walls was running and that it's all a two mile radius. It's all happening. Might I recommend go back and when you have a moment, watch my interview with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who was a true American hero who was born in Somalia and underwent female genital mutilation and moved eventually to Holland, where she became a member of parliament. And because she was also fighting radical Islam, her friend Theo van Gogh was murdered in the middle of the street during the day. And they pinned a note on him saying, ayaan, you're next. And she has subsequently, over the last 20 years, moved to America and become one of the greatest freedom fighters. But if you watch my interview with her talking about Somalia, one of the things she says is that it's baked into the cultural code of Somalians, that if they can get away with something, they will do it. She's saying there's a cultural reason for that. I know that's very dangerous to talk about, but take Ayaan's word for it. Don't take mine. All right, let's pause all of that for a moment because the other interesting thing that's going on right now is Iran is still a little bit in this pause phase. We've got the blockade now. There are rumors that the gay, legless, burned new Ayatollah is not gonna let the uranium out. Ayatollah, I don't know if he has a leg to stand on on that. That's on pause at the moment. We'll see more about that. But now the Cuba thing might be going down. Listen to this from Mario Nafal. The USS Nimitz aircraft carrier strike group just arrived in US Southern Command's area of responsibility, including the embarked carrier Air Wing 17, USS Gridley and USNS Patuxent. Deployment was announced late in late March, well before the current Cuba escalation. Nimitz will circumnavigate South America, participating in Southern Seas 2026 exercises. Participating nations, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Uruguay. Port visits planned include Brazil, Chile, Panama and Jamaica arrives as the DOJ announces indictment of Raul Castro in Miami. Well, more on that in a second. Comes after sanctions on 11 Cuban officials and reports of Cuba acquiring 300 plus military drones. The official mission is a regularly scheduled exercise. The timing tells a different story. A US Carrier strike group entering the Caribbean and Southern American theater the same week Trump indicts Castro, sanctions the regime and threatens to take over Cuba. Is the loudest soft signal Washington can send without firing a shot. Source US under command. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember the Venezuela thing? What was happening in Venezuela or in our waters and international waters right before we went in and got Maduro in Venezuela? Well, it was those drug boats coming and we kept blowing them up. And we were moving, Remember, we were moving carriers there and everything else, and everyone was like, who knows what Trump's going to do? It's feeling very, very similar to that right now with Cuba. And let's not forget, Rubio has already been on the record saying Cuba is next. And would that not be something if we could free the Cuban people finally from the grip of communism, it would be a massive blow to the Democrats here. But if we could get Maduro, if we could end. Well, we'll have more on Maduro in just a second. But if we could end the communist rule there and allow for freedom there, man, the partying, I mean, there will be mojitos in the street here in Miami. Here is Louisiana Senator John Kennedy on the current status of the Cuban Communist regime.
John Kennedy
Not that you would betray intelligence and let the Communists know ahead of time on the Will Kane Show. But I do think the American people would like to know, oh, wow, what are we about to do in Cuba?
Ted Knight (Caddyshack clip)
I don't know because I don't have the same intelligence that the President has. But I feel very confident in saying this. He's going to do something. It's either going to be the hard way or the easy way. But the Communist Party government in Cuba is, is dead. It's a smoked turkey, and that's just a fact, and it's just a matter of time.
Dave Rubin
I would take John Kennedy's word for it. Like, we do this the hard way, or we could do this the easy way, you know, And I would say for those of you that, you know, Trump said no wars. I would remember that he said no forever wars, and that he has already issued what the new Trump Doctrine is, which is an update of the Monroe Doctrine, and that we are going to take care of business, particularly in our hemisphere, but we are also not going to allow rogue nations to export terror all over the place. So whatever happens, assuming it's going to be military, there's going to be some military something, one way or another. It's not going to be a forever war. It will be that we are going to go in, take out whatever's left of the regime and the Cuban people, The Cuban people, you think at the end, it's not like people think every people have too much PTSD from Iraq and other places. Like, there isn't the religious sectarian warfare. It's why Venezuela is basically under control right now. Are you hearing anything negative out of Venezuela right now? Because they didn't have jihadists running around on the streets or anything else? It's a completely different thing, but there's a certain PTSD related to wars that George W. Bush fought 25 years ago, instead of what Trump, who clearly has just a better command and better people around him on how you're going to do some of these things. So now, the interesting part is that we are moving. There's a legal situation happening before what appears to be a military operation happening. Here's Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche on indicting former Cuban President Raul Castro right here in Miami.
Todd Blanche
Today, we are announcing an indictment charging Raul Castro and several others with conspiracy to kill US Nationals. Mr. Castro and the others are charged with additional crimes as well, including destruction of aircraft and four individual counts of murder. The indictment was returned by a grand jury sitting in this district in Miami on April 23, 2026, and was unsealed today.
Dave Rubin
All right, so this is interesting. We've got an indictment of Castro. And you remember this is very, very similar to what happened with Venezuela, because we kept telling, telling Maduro, hey, Maduro, easy with the boats. You got to play ball with us. And we played a video like two or three days before they caught him. He was like, yeah, come and get me. And then we went and got him. So here's Todd Blanche on how we may or may not get Castro in the US and quick follow up.
Byron Donalds
What are the prospects that you could get Raul Castro to the United States to face justice, given the situation there? And what steps are the US Willing to take to get him back here?
Andrew Ross Sorkin
Well, we.
Todd Blanche
We indict men outside of this country all the time, and there's all kinds of different ways that we get them here. The reason why we indict somebody is because we want them here to face justice in front of a jury of their peers. So we expect that he will show up here by his own will or by another way and go to prison.
Dave Rubin
His own will or another way. Kind of like Maduro. Again, people that are gonna freak out about all these sort of things. Trump playbook. If you just look at it, you shouldn't freak out because it's pretty obvious. So my guess is it's gonna be another way. It's hard to imagine that Raul's just gonna hop on a plane or a boat and be like, let's roll. We probably will have to go in and get him. And if. If the Maduro thing is any map for how we're going to go ahead and do it, it's going to be pretty freaking slick and awesome and happen out of nowhere, and we'll have them on a boat in a jumpsuit like that. Seems like what's going to happen. I thought this was interesting. On Polymarket, they're saying they're checking all the betting markets, 49% of people. So basically half the people betting right now are saying that there will be US Military inaction by Cuba in Cuba by the end of the year, by December 31st. So we shall see. Let me throw in one other, because Byron Donalds, of course, Congressman down here in southwest Florida, who's running for governor, likely is the next governor. I mean, he's up by like 60 percentage points here. He is pointing out the Dem hypocrisy for Trump trying to free Cuba, the
Byron Donalds
fact that you have Democrat senators who want to stop the United States government and stop President Trump from doing what he can to help free Cuba from more than 60 years of totalitarianism and a dictatorship. But then the same Democrats will come here and lecture everybody in America about how they're the only ones that stand for freedom, that stand for democracy. Give me a break. They're lying, but this is new. They lie about this stuff all the time because we work in these halls. And when we try to just do simple, common sense policy to actually open up America's economy for the American people, drive down costs, have health care, that makes sense. You know who stops us? The same Democrats who go on the trail and talk about how they're the only ones standing for the little guy. That war powers resolution that they're bringing is indicative of the fact that the Democrats will tolerate totalitarianism on their watch and they will let it happen. They will watch people starve, they will watch people be oppressed, and they won't lift a finger. But they'll go to their cocktail party and talk about how they stand for freedom and liberty and democracy. Give me a break. I don't listen to them anymore.
Ted Knight (Caddyshack clip)
And.
Byron Donalds
And that resolution is wide.
Dave Rubin
Yeah, I like him. You know, we've got two great candidates running, actually. Jay Collins, who's our lieutenant governor here in Florida, is also running. He's a great human being and lost leg in service and just amazing. Byron's just up by a massive amount. And he's great. He's a fighter. He's young. He gets it. He understands the media part of it. And everything he said there was right. The Democrats pretend to be for all of these things. Trump does. That's the difference. Trump does. That's a good phrase for Trump. Trump does, period. And we'll see what happens with all this. Let me jump to one other thing to connect all of this, tie this all together, and then we're going to get to a rubinreport.locals.com community Q&A one more from Bezos talking about Donald Trump.
Jeff Bezos
I'm comparing him to his first term, and I think he is a more mature, more disciplined versus of himself than he was in his first term? I'm on the side of America, and that is so important. And that's where business leaders should be. Trump has lots of good ideas and he's done a lot of. He's been right about a lot of things. You have to give him credit where credit is due.
Dave Rubin
I like that I'm on the side of America and it's right and for all of us. So who, what side do you want to be on? Do you want to be on the side of Elon taking us to, you know, interplanetary travel? Do you want to be on the side of Jeff Bezos doing building industries and employing one and a half million people? Do you want to be on the side of Donald Trump? Do you want to be on the side of Bobby Kennedy trying to deal with all of our vaccine schedules and all? We could do a long list of people. Or do you want to be on the side of the people who just want the government to get bigger, who just want to take more from you, who just want to insert communism, dash a jihadist and have no imagination and don't understand human nature and don't want you to be free? It seems pretty freaking obvious to me. But, you know, what are you gonna do? All right, let's do a little community Q and A right now. Samantha says, dear Dave, will the meet and greet at the live show be just with you, or will it also include the other guests? That is a fine question, Samantha. So I can't force any of them to do anything. However, I was on Jillian Michaels show yesterday. She said she would gladly stick around. And if people want to hug Jillian, too, you will be allowed to hug Jillian.
Jeff Bezos
Adam and Jillian will be in the photos.
Dave Rubin
Adam and Jillian will. I am getting breaking news. Adam Carolla. Adam doesn't seem like he'd want to hug people, though. But he will take a picture hug. Yes. It's a good deal, too, because we have this Memorial Day discount. Oh. And we happen to have a Memorial Day discount. So if you want to hug. If you want to hug me, if you want to hug Jillian Michaels, apparently Kroll is willing to do the hug. That seems weird. Shapiro's not gonna hug all these people. That's, he's, you know, his wife. Also Ben Shapiro. Let me just Tell you something about Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro's wife is pregnant and she's about to pop. Like, I think the due date's like three days after the show. So I'm just hoping he'll be able to be there. But I'm guessing that he's gonna run right home and probably perform the birthday of the child. And DeSantis, I don't know if maybe we'll get DeSantis. I'm sure DeSantis will stay for a little bit. So, yes, you can get to meet everybody again. 25% off right now. Dave rubin.com events and it's just gonna be a great night. We're coming up with all kinds of fun things, and I really hope to see as many of you guys there as possible. Robert says, curious, how is it not obvious to the general population that their leaders lie about everything? Just in the Virginia example is of redistricting. They go from talking about packing the court to age, limiting the court and essentially overlooking the entire fact that they wrote this to mislead everyone from the beginning. Right, so that's your latter point, that they misled everyone from the beginning is why the Supreme Court of Virginia struck the thing down. But then think about it. The second it doesn't go their way, they started pushing the idea that there should be age limits on the justices in Virginia. And I think they said 54 years old. And if you look at the age of all of the justices who voted on this thing, I think all of them, you can check me on this. I think all of them, except for one, were over 54. It's like, you guys, it's so boring how obvious it is. You're gonna force people into retirement who are 54. I'm going to be 50 next month. I think I can work a few more years. This is, it's just patently absurd. But look, your question really is about education. And that's what, in some sense, today's whole show was. If we are at the point where we have to what Bezos is doing there, think about all the things that this guy is doing and building and what his day to day must be like and all of the investments he makes and cool technologies he sees and all this. And he chose because I think he's realizing what time it is in the country. He chose, chose to sit down with MSNBC and basically teach economics, that you should have learned your first semester in college, if not in high school. Econ 101, supply and demand. That's where we're at. That's where we're at. And that's why almost everything is an education problem. Before anything else. Olaf says, if you could observe one historical event, what would would it be? You know, I think I answered this question once, but I'm going to try to elaborate or change it just a bit more. So if I could do one historical event for sure, if you want to. I believe this is a historical event, if not with a bit of a metaphor wrapped around it. But Moses parting the Red Sea as the Hebrews are fleeing Egypt on the way to Israel. Like if that happened. And the older I get, the more I think there is some literal sense to it that some somehow the river did split and Moses was standing there and get going Jews and that way. And then all the Egyptians came in and the pharaoh and then the river closed around them and everything else. Whether you think it's a metaphor or it's an allegory or it's literal in some sense, if I could have been there for that, that would be pretty cool. But if you want an actual literal one that we know happened 100%, a bit more of a. A modern sense. I mean, to be at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, right? I can't imagine to be at the birth, literally the birth of America. We're going to sign this thing. And you know, John Hancock, that he signed this thing so huge. And he was a nominal character who now we say, put your John Hancock on that because he just took up half the page. But to be around those incredible people after they had fought it out, it was not easy to come up with the. The Declaration of Independence. It was far more difficult to come up with the Constitution of the United States. But to be there just in that room with all the wigs and the high socks and the whole thing, like, pretty freaking awesome. Beth says, who came up with your signature theme music for your show? Because I think it eventually changed. I love it. So we get so many compliments, by the way, on the theme music of the show. And although we haven't shown it to you for the last few days, because we're doing the. The promos for the live event, for our intro that we shot in here with the 3D stuff going around me and the cool moving pictures and everything, we get tons of compliments on all that. So the guy who did our. The music for our current theme song is a guy. You can find him on Spotify. Young Spielberg, Yung Spielberg. He's, if I'm not mistaken, he's an. Has he win An Emmy. He's an Emmy Award. He won a Grammy. Not an Emmy. He won a Grammy. He's a Grammy Award winner. He's a great, great human being. He also did the music for the all in podcast that we always play clips of, you know, David Sacks and Chamath and the rest of those guys. And that's where we saw it. And I was like, oh, he's doing something really cool. And then the other music that I know you guys love, that I really love, and I so attached to this show is the theme song that we had for a long time was by a guy named Marvel83. He's a synth wave guy. I really like synthwave, particularly in August, you know, it's just very dreamy and melodic stuff. And I found him, he had a tiny YouTube channel of like, I don't know, a hundred followers, like ten years ago. And I contacted him and I was like, I love this stuff. I've got a little YouTube channel myself. Could I. Could I use your music? And he opened up his whole catalog. He did not want a dime for any of it. So a lot of our music that we play in during interstitials and stuff like that is from Marvel Again. You can check it on Spotify or YouTube. But young Spielberg for the current theme song, Glenn says President Trump has made jokes and comments about the auto pen. Shouldn't there be a serious investigation about how much of that is true and were laws broken by the Biden administration? Well, the short answer to that is yes, of course. Right? Like, it is the scandal of all time. What happened in the previous administration? No sensible person and honestly believes that Joe Biden was making these decisions. You guys know there was some freaking crazy airlock on what was happening with Joe Biden cognitively until that night in June. What was it two years ago where the debate happened and Joe Biden broke down on stage and then suddenly, suddenly mainstream media was like, is something wrong with this guy? Is something wrong with this guy? Meanwhile, we had all been screaming about it for years. I was literally. You can find videos when I say still lived in LA before Joe Biden was even president, talking about his cognitive abilities. The. What was it? The. Who's the guy with the leg. With the rubbing my hairy leg and corn pop. The corn pop guy. That story is from before he was president and he made no sense. Kids were rubbing my legs and that's how I found out about roaches. Like something was wrong with the guy. Like, it just made no sense. So should there be? So should there be an investigation? My guess is they're still looking into something. I just think there's only so many things that the American people can sort of swallow at once. In essence, we got the Iran situation. He's working on economic stuff. You know, we're dealing with like a psychotic Democrat Party. I'm guessing there is some ongoing investigation about this. But yes, it is really like you could think of the scam like the Hunter Biden laptop is such a freaking massive scandal because it literally involved fascistic collusion between the government, the government, the Biden government and big tech. Right. Because Twitter and others were censoring the story. So that's massive. But the fact that the president was not the president and we all know it and that there was a soft coup to push him out, which we will eventually find out more. You know, Nancy Pelosi basically said. Said it. Kamala has basically admitted it. Joe Biden even pretty much on the View said, they forced me out and I didn't want to leave. So there was some conversation with him and. Or Dr. Jill, who should have diagnosed him in the first place. She's not that kind of doctor. There was some conversation where they were like, we're going to 25th amendment. You. If you don't step away, all of that will eventually leak out. But will people pay the price? It's like the COVID stuff. It's very rare that people pay the price. Nimbus, we love Nimbus. Nimbus says many people are arguing that Thomas Massie's loss, despite strong support from figures on the Woke Right shows that the rogue white. The Woke Right ultimately has little influence within the broader MAGA movement. Do you think that interpretation is accurate? Yeah, I do. I do. We showed you yesterday. Donald Trump has won his last 37 endorsements. He didn't go 35 and 2. He went 37 and 0. So the last 37 candidates that he has supported have won. He has a complete lock on MAGA as it is. CNN is still showing he controls. He has 97% support amongst MAGA. Now, there might be some on the independent side that were newer MAGA people that maybe are wavering and it's going to be his job to keep riding the ship. So by midterm time, they come back over. But this is what I was saying about the Tucker thing, the Megan, whatever this thing is, you guys screaming constantly, the panic ins. Everything's World War Three. Everyone's abandoning Trump. It's completely the reverse. It was not World War 3. No matter how it Shakes out now. It was not World War Three, and we had an unbelievably spectacular military success. We'll see what the final deal looks like. Right? But it was certainly not a forever war. And that you all abandoned him and then went on all of your shows to tell people how horrible he is and that maga's falling apart and there is literally no evidence of it. And by the way, the people that are pushing this nonsense, they're paying the price. I saw on Twitter, and we did double check it. Megyn Kelly lost 40,000 subscribers last month on YouTube. Her show is getting. Look at her last 20 clips. They're getting like 10,000 views. You can't lie to people and manipulate people and tell your audience to go F itself constantly and then expect them to come back. I hold it in extremely high regard. I hold you guys in extremely high. Regardless. I really do. I'm not here to insult your intelligence. You can agree with me or disagree with me. Then we wrap it up and you go about your day. But I'm not here to lie to you and confuse you about something. Then don't watch. So you should only watch if you think there's something valuable in this and you occasionally laugh and that it offers something so that you can. Because we all need to be in this game to some extent, otherwise a whole bunch of bad people will take over. And that's all I got to say about that. Postgame show. 30 seconds. Rubinreport.locals.com Adios, Sa. All right, post game. Let's do it. EK and Izzy, did Bezos get Botox? You know, I almost said something about his appearance during the show, but I tried to be somewhat judicious when I'm doing that kind of thing. But, you know, he's fully jacked right now, and he looks so much younger and better than he did. We have a picture of him from. From how long ago? All right, we're going to grab in just a sec. He looks completely, completely transformed. I mean, look, if you have those kind of. If you have that kind of access to quite literally everything, like, could he be on TRT and Peptides and all this stuff? Probably, right? I mean, he could be on quite literally anything. Could he have Botox and fillers or all of those things? I'm going to guess he also probably works out like an MF or. I mean, look at that. And that even that 2019 one, he's way bigger than that right now. But look, 2009, that's like dictionary level. Show me a picture. Of a dork, right? But if you even look at him in the seven years since, he's even bigger than that picture. So I don't know what he's on. My guess is he's on some kind of testosterone thing or something. People keep asking me because I'm rolling into the 50 next month, which is nuts. The only thing, I take a multivitamin, I take Nutrafol for my hair. And I go to my girl in Miami beach three times a year, so every couple months and I just lay there and I just see flashes and I smell burning. I don't know what she's doing. She's burning the hell out of me with acids. And I come back and I'm like red as hell for a couple days. But that's it. I don't do any of that other stuff. And I try to. I'm doing the carnivore thing and running around a lot. That's it. Marcus Rallya says teachers should be paid according to their students performance. Well, wouldn't that be something? Wouldn't. And again, this is where these guys are so missing it. Like, okay, we did just need. You just have to pay teachers more. That doesn't necessarily mean grades are going to get better or they're going to do a better job, but because also we're on this AI horizon, we are going to be able to quantify and qualify and understand and see metrics of whether these people are good or not in newer ways. By the way, the idea that we're even going to need teachers in the conventional sense ten years from now, is it all going to be done at home? Is it all going to be done with robots? Again, the AI stuff, there's so much changing and it's so ironic that the people that consider them progressives, consider themselves progressives, are actually the ones who are looking backwards all the time. Your papers, please. My kids keep saying I should get me a dog for a companion. I don't know if that's relative to anything else that we did on the show today, but yeah, get a dog, get a dog. Why not adopt if you're going to get a dog? Adopt, adopt, adopt, adopt. Oh man. If you were in Miami a few weeks ago, a friend of mine that I played basketball with, one of his dogs gave birth and there were a couple like really great. Like, what are they? St. Charles something or other something somethings. But yes, if you need companionship, get a dog. There's nothing better. Clyde's a little nutty and he's become, you know, because of the kids, he's neglected a little bit. You know, we have fun with him all day. I walk him every day and all that stuff. But like, he doesn't get the attention that he used to pre kid. But having a dog around the house for security for, you know, if you get a good, you get a good dog that'll cuddle up with you when you're watching TV and everything else, like, yeah, it's great. Get yourself a dog. I got, let me see, who can I pimp out right now? I got my dog in New York City at the Humane Society of New York, which is not part of the Greater Humane Society. They did an incredible job with Emma after Hurricane Katrina. And you know, find your local shelter and don't forget to spay your animals. Goodbye.
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A deep dive into Jeff Bezos’s recent remarks on progressive taxation, societal envy, economics, the billionaire class, and the progressive left’s response—including a broader examination of free market capitalism, personal responsibility versus government overreach, and the current U.S. political landscape.
Dave Rubin unpacks the viral conversation sparked by Jeff Bezos’s rare public interview with CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin, in which the Amazon founder suggests eliminating federal income taxes for lower and middle class earners. Rubin explores the response from progressive politicians like Zohran Mamdani, reactions from the left, and how Bezos and others in the billionaire class are addressing common criticisms. The episode expands to wider issues including economic misconceptions, government spending, envy toward wealth creators, and the cyclical push for more state intervention. Rubin caps off the analysis with geopolitical updates, notably legal and military maneuvers regarding Cuba, and community Q&A.
“How about we start by having the nurse in Queens not pay taxes? Why is a nurse in Queens who makes $75,000 a year paying more than $1,000 a month in taxes?... The bottom half of income earners in this country pay only 3% of the taxes.”
(06:29)
“No matter what you do with the progressives, like Bezos can call for that. And you think any of the progressives are suddenly going to be like, OK, billionaires are great? No, he knows they want his head no matter what.”
(13:24)
“You could double the taxes I pay, and it's not going to help that teacher in Queens, I promise you. Can't connect those two things. Not logically... What's really causing high rent is government intervention.”
(13:24)
“[Mamdani] wrote, ‘I know a few teachers in Queens who would beg to differ,’” referencing the idea more billionaire taxes would help teachers.
“If you had a few more of your own dollars... it would be better than sending it to the government.”
(16:30)
“AOC recently said... you can't earn a billion dollars, just can't earn that... you can break rules, abuse labor laws, but you can't earn that. When you read that, what do you think?”
“Well, it's not cracked on its face.”
“You start a burger joint... open a second, then a third... by the time you've opened a thousand outlets, you are a billionaire... It's all about providing a service people love.”
(22:14)
“If I do my job right, the value to society from my for-profit companies will be much, much larger than the good I do with charitable giving.” “New mothers tell me, ‘I have no idea what I would be doing right now if I didn’t have Amazon.’”
“Why do you hate the innovators so much?... It’s envy and jealousy and confusion about basic economics.”
“Not one promise has been kept to black Americans in this country when every bit of prosperity you enjoy was built on our backs... we are long overdue for reparations.”
(31:23)
“You’ll get nothing and like it.”
(32:43)
“You tell young people capitalism’s bad, America's bad, founding was bad... maybe PlayStation was down and everyone had to burn shit.”
(35:13)
“The Communist Party government in Cuba is, is dead. It's a smoked turkey, and that's just a fact, and it's just a matter of time.”
(42:22)
“Announcing an indictment charging Raul Castro... with conspiracy to kill US Nationals... The indictment was returned by a grand jury...unsealed today.”
(44:27)
“He [Trump] is a more mature, more disciplined version of himself than he was in his first term. I'm on the side of America, and that is so important. That's where business leaders should be. Trump has lots of good ideas and he's done a lot. He's been right about a lot of things.” (49:05)
“We can make it even more progressive by zeroing out taxes on the bottom half. It's a small amount... but very meaningful.” (06:29)
“If Bezos or Elon... was just like, you know what, take more of mine... in five years, they're going to say, ‘oh no, we want another 5%.’ It will never, never end.” (16:30)
“What you're doing, the way you make a billion dollars... is you create a service people love. If millions of people choose your service, you're going to end up with a billion dollars.” (22:14)
“The second I got on [Joe Lonsdale’s] basketball court, I was like, I want this, and I'm going to figure out a way to get it... That's what freedom and dreaming and passion is all about.” (25:23)
“We never got our 40 acres and a mule... we are long overdue for reparations.” (31:23)
“You’ll get nothing and like it.” (32:43)
“The Communist Party government in Cuba is, is dead. It's a smoked turkey, and that's just a fact, and it's just a matter of time.” (42:22)
“I'm on the side of America, and that is so important. And that’s where business leaders should be. Trump has lots of good ideas... he's been right about a lot of things.” (49:05)
This episode paints a wide political and cultural tableau, anchored in the debate over taxation, government spending, and class resentment—using Jeff Bezos’s rare public forays as the launchpad. Throughout, Dave Rubin asserts that the real battle is not over numbers or even fairness, but over mindset: ambition vs. envy, innovation vs. grievance, personal responsibility vs. government dependency. The show ends by tying domestic economic debates to foreign affairs and the broader struggle for freedom, emphasizing that education—and proper understanding of economics—is foundational to preserving liberty.