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Dave. Wait, Dave. Dave, My. My show got canceled by the Blaze last week. I don't know. You didn't hear that? You didn't hear that? And Glenn Beck's leaving the network and it's a. A big kerfuffle at the boys right now. You didn't know that? Keep this in. Please keep this in the episode.
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I. Well, I'm definitely keeping it in the episode.
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The grave of my show, but believe it or not, I have. I have some other opportunities, so I'll be okay. But, yes, my show just ended. We had our last episode last week.
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Well, Malice, you still got a podcast or does this whole thing going to derail right now?
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Unfortunately, there's no way to find out.
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You just broadcast in your room. It's not. The computer's not even connected to anything. Wait a minute. What did you just say about Glenn Beck, too?
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Well, you know, Glenn said he's starting the torch. This is big news. I can't believe. It's not a big deal, Glenn starting a new thing. I mean, obviously he's still connected with the Blaze, but he's creating a whole new thing that's not connected with the Blaze.
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Right. And I know he. He moved to Florida. There's a lot going on there. Well, listen, I know a little something about starting independent podcasts. If you need a little help. Stein, I have a whole team here. We'd be happy to help you.
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Please.
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I do.
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And. And again, normally I wouldn't work with a vegetarian, but in this case, I'm gonna make it happen. Malice, do you want me to comment on any of your dietary habits or Anything weird before we get going here?
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I feel like it's lgbtqv.
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I'll take it. Guys, listen, if you want to call me gay, you guys want to call me a soy boy, I don't care. I love these dang animals. And listen, listen, Honestly, I'm not going to yell at you guys for eating meat, but if you want my personal opinion, we do eat meat for every meal. You don't need to eat it for every meal. I think you need deep meat once a day. It would help your digestion.
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I did not say gay. It was a homophobic slur that was implied. Please be accurate.
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I thought the V was for vagina at first, but then I put it together. Okay, let's go, guys. We're going to recap some of the nonsense of the week, and it's really after a socialist, communist, Marxist jihadist got elected in New York. It's a pleasure to be with the two of you on this Friday. So let's start. Everyone knows, obviously, at this point, we'll put the numbers up. They don't even matter at this point. But, yes, Mamdami will be the mayor of New York City. And it got off to just a perfect start. For a guy that says everything's gonna be free within 24 hours of being elected, he immediately wanted your cash.
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You know, there were a few months ago where I told supporters across this city to stop donating. And today I am asking them to start once again. And I am asking them to do so because of the fact that a transition that can meet the moment of.
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Preparing for January 1st is one that will require staff, it will require research, it will require infrastructure.
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And those are things that we will have to provide.
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And I am excited for the fact.
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That it will be funded by the very people who brought us to this.
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Point, the working people who have been.
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Left behind by the politics of the city.
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Malice. I want to try a Michael Malice stab at this thing. First off, it says a new era should. It should say a new error. That's fairly obvious. But it seems to me that perhaps within 24 hours of a guy saying everything's going to be free, begging for money, that that's actually baked into exactly what he's doing. The insult around it and the obvious hypocrisy is precisely the point of entire thing. What do you think about that?
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I don't know if it's. It's precisely the point. I'm. I'm looking forward to seeing what this mayoralty will look like. I would want to point out. I don't think Mamdani is going to be particularly worse than de Blasio. De Blasio was a commie. One of my favorite moments of de Blasio's mayorship was there's something called Billionaire Row, which is Central Park South. I think it's the most expensive street on earth, or close to it. And in perfect lefty logic, de Blasio's like, we're going to put a homeless shelter there, because if we're going to have equality, why should the billionaires be able to escape from homeless people everywhere? Now, if you had real logic, it'd be like, put real estate there, put property taxes, and use that to home people. But no, that's not how they think. So I think New York has had eight years of this, some similar stuff in the past. I also want to caution people, I think the more Mamdani mayor term is going to be a lot like Trump's first term, because when Trump came in, the administration ran the table on him. If any of us became mayor of New York right now, I wouldn't want to go against the city council, the real estate people, the police unions. These people know how the game works. They've been at it for a very long time. He's 34. He's going to staff it either with green people, meaning fresh to the scene, or party hacks. And I want everyone green.
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By green, you don't mean Hamas and Hezbollah supporters because they like that flag, that color.
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I just to say one more thing. Everyone watching this, look up on Wikipedia, the 1977 Dennis Kucinich mayorship of Cleveland. Because he was 31, he was this hardcore leftist anti war candidate and it was such a joke that Parks and Rec made a character based on it years later. So I think it's going to be a lot of fun. The one thing I'm concerned about is that there's going to be a lot more violence in the streets. That's my biggest concern.
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Well, you were going real white pill there and ended it then with the violence. I'm completely with you on the violence part. I'm not sure I'm with you on the front end of that thing. Stein, where do you fall on this utter debacle?
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Well, Dave, you know, listen, this is what I want to do. I actually want to call out, you know, our own party a little bit. We're acting like this is the end of the world. And when in reality. Let's look at Mandani. He's 34 years old. He's smoking weed. You saw him in the debate stage. He says, oh, I go to the pot shop all the time. So first of all, he's high. His mom's a filmmaker. Right. So he's not a real Arab. I mean, and you saw bin Laden's movies in those caves. What they call filmmaking is garbage. I mean, their number one leader, the movies that bin Laden made was garbage. So I imagine she's probably not making as good a movies as that. So he's not going to be able to do Jack Squad. He's going to get in there. Is that like malice said? He's not going to do anything. Yes, he is going to cause a bunch of drama. But I'm telling you, this might be a good thing. Kind of like how the Biden presidency was a good thing because it kind of woke and radicalized people to actually start fighting back. So, you know, maybe this will be a good thing in the long run. It feels like a bad thing, but, you know, sometimes you get some perspective and your whole opinion changes.
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Right. I mean, everyone's sort of saying, you know, the silver lining is okay, it goes to hell in a handbasket. But maybe that's exactly what finally has to happen. But I want to throw this clip to you guys from Scott Jennings over at cnn because he just made the point that you made, Alex, about Mamdani being an actor.
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He's the greatest actor you have. You know, he turned himself into a.
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Hood ornament for the poor and the downtrodden. He's a rich kid who is a great actor.
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He play, acts.
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Yeah. I'll tell you what, I understand why. And so I can understand why you, you'd be leery of an actor in politics.
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I'm just saying there's no other obvious Democrat.
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He has all the energy behind him. You talk about slicing and dicing the electorate. He's going to slice it and dice.
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It in one way.
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Oppressors and oppressed.
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And I want to find out if.
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He has it in him to give it up. I don't think he does because that's the energy in the Democratic Party. It's oppressors and oppressed. That's why the Jews in this city feel scared because they know he has labeled them as the oppressors.
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That's why people who create jobs in.
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New York City are leery, because he labels them the oppressors. Malice. Tell me a little bit more about why you predict violence and how bad do you think it's going to get to the backdrop of what I Assume we all agree that he just is kind of faking all of this. As. As Jim said.
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Did you catch that stupid Reagan joke that they tried to throw out there? Oh, yeah. I can see what you would want to. Actor in politics. It's just, it's just physically painful. I'm not.
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I thought. I actually thought it was a reality TV show joke about Trump.
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Like, that's what I thought.
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Yeah.
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Oh, but he's not an actor.
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But either way, either.
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Okay.
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No, I know, but like in his head, like, oh, you don't want an actor. You have a reality TV host.
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Yeah, sure.
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I think people like Mamdani and the Democratic Socialist part of the Democratic Party comes from. You saw it in San Francisco with Chezza Butin when he was da. You see, in some of these cities, they genuinely believe that criminals are victims. That it's, you know, I was raised poor. I didn't have a good upbringing, didn't have a dad. What choice did I have? And, and, you know, these are crimes of poverty, not crimes of evil or property. So you should really have sympathy for them. This is why they're talking about defunding the police and replacing them with things like, I don't even know, like shrinks, social workers. Social workers. Thank you. So there's going to be a lot. And he's going to disproportionately affects minorities, which obviously, therefore means it's wrong. So you're going to see if he has his way pulling back of the cops on crime, especially violent crime, and pointing the finger at white supremacists, you know, because it's. That's who makes people rapists. So that's what I'm concerned about. We saw this a little bit with Dinkins when he was mayor in 1989 through 93, there were kind of pogroms in Crown Heights. And when that was happening, I remember Dinkins decided to crack down on jaywalking. So that, you know, kind of Seattle, Portland, San Francisco mindset. We've seen it play out and we know what that looks like. And it's, it's the people who are hurt the most are poor people, especially poor women. And that is who I'm concerned about.
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But, but so to that point, Alex, it seems to me the reason this is gonna be much worse than Dinkins, you know, late 80s, early 90s, is because the culture is actually much worse right now. We're tolerant of much more mayhem on the streets and that you're allowed to, you know, closed streets and chant and march and blah, blah, all the stuff that has been going on seems significantly worse and has been for years than it was back then. And that's. And he's more outwardly like, I think he's pro jihad. I just do. So to me, this is just an unbelievably toxic mess.
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Yeah, no, I mean, I agree that it's toxic. And then you kind of look at like ever since Charlie's death, I feel like the protests have ramped up. And I've been to these no king protests and trust me, like now political violence is more acceptable because they've seen Luigi Mangione, like, you know, you've seen this thing where it's almost kind of. They like it. You know, they, I mean, you know, Luigi Mangione, I can't even say his name is a hero now. So I would actually not be. I would not be surprised, excuse me, if there is some more political violence in New York City because these people realize they could be a hero if they go and hurt somebody in a public way. So I would be smelled. Is that city.
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Is that the point? I mean, the guy literally wouldn't condemn globalize the intifada. So why wouldn't it just burst forth on the streets?
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Well, again, I don't think it's going to be localized to anti Jewish violence in New York City. I think he's very skeptical of police as an answer to crime in general. And I think, you know, he was a defund the police guy and it was really kind of funny. I remember the Cuomo type Democrats were like, oh, when they say defund the police, what they really mean is more money for college. And there was an op ed New York and when we say defund the police, we mean defund the police. Like they generally don't believe. They believe that the police are a mechanism for the property class to protect themselves against the poor. So when you. But at the same time, how? I don't know. And I don't know if you guys do. How much power the mayor has in terms of the police being pulled back. And I don't think the police in New York are doing that great of a job right now at all.
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No. Right. But again, that's why I think everything has been so degraded that yes, they're not doing a great job. They're qualifications have gone down. People accept a lot more mayhem. And I don't even, in a weird way, I don't even think it matters how much power he has, because I think it just has now. They've now just created the Conditions for chaos. But let's leave that there. I would say to New York, good luck with all of that. We'll talk about Juvent for a minute. And then Nancy Pelosi is retiring, but she's not giving up any of the money. Guys, if you're dealing with joint pain, stiffness, or just not bouncing back like you used to, you've got to hear this. There's this fitness tool originally designed for NASA astronauts called the Juvent Micro Impact platform. Unlike those jarring high impact machines, the Juvent uses gentle natural vibrations to activate your body's healing response. It helps ease chronic pain, improve circulation and boost joint health. You just stand on it for 10 to 20 minutes a day while you watch this show or you have your morning coffee. That's it. It's completely safe, made right here in the USA and backed by millions in research and clinical studies. So if you've been dealing with pain or fatigue, check out juvent.comruben. that's j-u v e n t.comruben. and use code Reuben to save $300 on your next Juvent. There's a six week money back guarantee. So you've got nothing to lose. Except maybe you're paying. So, Nancy Pelosi, watch what I do here when I talk about Nancy Pelosi. Guys, she's leaving. She's going to retire. For the children and the children, here's the retirement video.
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I speak for the people of San Francisco.
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I have truly loved serving as your voice in Congress. And I've always honored the song of St. Francis. Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace. The anthem of our city. That is why I want you, my fellow San Franciscans, to be the first to know I will not be seeking.
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Re election to Congress. With a grateful heart, I look forward.
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To my final year of service as your proud representation representative. As we go forward, my message to the city I love is this.
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San Francisco.
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Know your power. Stein. Was that the weirdest intro to Tales from the Crypt you've ever seen?
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I mean, I didn't see enough pride flags. I don't think she represented the gay community well enough. I think she should be canceled for that garbage. But I mean, seriously, good for her. She's been there forever. Now Dan Crenshaw gets to be the league leader in stock trading. So I'm sure Dan's happy about that. He gets to be number one. So I'm sad for her malice.
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We're gonna miss her. We're gonna miss her. I mean, she's done so many good things, hasn't she? I'm sure I have them written here somewhere. If I can just.
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She has been the most effective leader the Democrats have had in decades. She's. The fact that she had all those Democrats walk the plank and lose their seats to put out, put forward Obamacare in 2008 and nine is no joke. And I think you guys are laughing now, but you're not gonna be laughing in a year, because I don't think it's a coincidence that she's invoking St. Francis of Assisi. If Democrats start talking about their faith and putting their religion first and foremost and discarding this WOKE stuff, like Alex pointed out, there's no pride flags. When those midterms come in, all those swing voters are gonna vote for them and against the Republican Party and Trump. So people who thought I was on Gutfeld a few months ago, and they're like, the Democrats are never gonna win again. And I said, you guys are crazy. This isn't the end of the first quarter and you're having your victory lapse. These people are playing the long game, and we saw it on Tuesday, and you're gonna see it next year.
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Wait, go with that a little bit more. So you think there's a calculated move that they will shift from WOKE a little bit, even though New York is now, I would say, the culmination of WOKE in a certain sense. But what. But how does the religion part fit with this?
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Because what the whole idea of WOKE is this kind of very secular, lgbt, internationalist, blah, blah, blah. You didn't see that in Virginia. You didn't see that in New Jersey. They're talking like 90s Democrats about your economy, paying the mortgage, I go to church, all this, I form a military, all this other good stuff. So that's the kind of thing that alienated a lot of moderates and Republicans in years past, and they learned their lesson from 2024. How many times in the past have you seen Nancy pelosi talking about St. Francis of Assisi? You think this calculating woman who's bringing it up in her video and not, as Alex said, mentioning, you know, the work we've done for gays, gay people over the last decades, or minorities. She didn't bring up any of that. So that she's very, very crafty. She knows where the future of politics is going and people should read those tea leaves.
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Interestingly, she also didn't bring up any of this.
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This week we saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign. Indeed, the Trump family eagerly intending to.
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Collude Possibly with Russia.
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He's even predicting a bloodbath.
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She did such a consequential President of the United States, a Mount Rushmore kind.
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Of President of the United States.
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Want to know what comes next, that.
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He belongs up there on Mount Rushmore, Lincoln and Joe Biden.
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But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there and he's wonderful.
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I don't say take him down, but.
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You can add Biden. Now, Stein, I know when they were in the traditional African garb, kneeling at the Capitol, you were right out of frame doing the same thing. So can you comment on some of that?
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Well, I mean, I love it. I mean, Nancy Pelosi just, you know, she's a proud black woman. I mean, what can I say? And she always has been and she really represents her community very well. But I think Michael had a really good point. I actually want to piggyback something he said. If you see what Gavin Newsom is doing, he's just trying to copy Donald Trump's playbook. So I would not be surprised if they don't try to become a little more spiritual because, you know, believe it or not, you know, people are, I don't think people are getting into organized religion as much, but I think people are becoming more spiritual and people do believe in God. Even like these weird leftists, they might not believe in organized religion. So they're going to find ways to try to connect with that base. So I think it's not that they're getting creative, they're just kind of copying a winning formula. And to be honest, like what Malice said after, I think JD Vance is a good candidate, but really it's not a guarantee that he's gonna win. So I mean, you know, it's anybody's game is what I'm trying to say.
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No, I definitely, definitely agree with that there. Also, it's just the way things change so fast now, there's simply no way to know. And by the way, I mean, we gotta get through a midterms before it's up to jd. Do you think she will regret admitting that she had a soft coup on the President? Cuz look at this now.
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What have you talked to him? Is my only question. What I have to do, right? He made the decision for the country. My concern was not about the President, it was about his campaign.
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I mean, Malice, she basically admitted booting Biden, but whatever, it just doesn't, none of it matters anymore.
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Right, but I mean, she did that and she saved how many House seats, right? All the polling was showing that he was gonna lose. Like New Mexico, so on and so forth. This woman is. Now, I don't think Kamala could have won, but I do think Kamala did better than Biden would have done, especially at weeks of the Democrats attacking him. And if God help him, there was another debate, he might have literally died on stage to the amusement of many. So this woman, I think she. How many, how many speakers of the House have taken out a sitting president? I mean, this woman is very, very crafty.
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Yeah.
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And knows how politics works. And talk about the long game. She's like, we got to get rid of Biden, who's been around since the 70s. She knifed him in the back to preserve the party's control of Congress. This is a cold blooded gangster. Yeah.
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Don't hate the player, hate the game. Donald Trump seems to be at least somewhat happy that she's going to be leaving. Chatted with President Trump about this breaking news that Nancy Pelosi will be leaving Washington. He tells me the following, and this is a quote. The retirement of Nancy Pelosi is a great thing for America. She was evil, corrupt, and only focused on bad things for our country. She was rapidly losing control of her party and it was never coming back. I'm very honored. She impeached me twice and failed miserably twice. Nancy Pelosi is a highly overrated politician. And so that is the first word.
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But definitely not the last word from.
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President Trump about this because about 90 minutes from right now, we do expect.
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To see him in the Oval Office.
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The two of them, of course, throughout his entire first term had historic battles. Stein. I kind of like when Trump just goes old school Trump and puts out statements like that at this point.
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Well, and when you hear the statement back, it really makes you think, like when Trump talks, he does not waste one word. I mean, he just starts off with she was evil. I mean, he just, he just, you know, he hooks you right at the beginning. He's such a good orator. Very. And I guess I would say, I would not say underrated because everybody knows he's one of the funniest guys in the world. But I'm just saying, it's just, it's. We don't appreciate how well he is at just, you know, cutting someone down. That was epic. But in reality, she did do those things. She failed twice and there's bad blood there. So I love it. I think we actually need a little more sensationalizing and sensationalism going on in politics. I love it.
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Well, from a rich, elderly white woman, we're going to shift to younger white women in just a second.
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Can I say one thing to this?
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Yes. Malice.
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Before we go on, I would like to remind you guys of a tweet Trump made in 2018 after the midterms. And he said, quote, in all fairness, Nancy Pelosi deserves to be chosen speaker of the House by Democrats. If they give her a hard time, perhaps we will add some Republican votes. She has earned this great honor. So Trump has been on both sides of the fence on this issue.
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Yeah, look, I mean, Trump used to love Hillary. Hillary used to love Trump. There's, there's, there's always, as they say, there's always a tweet for it.
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Right?
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Chinese restaurant, an Indian restaurant, go to.
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Perhaps their gay hairdresser.
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I don't think you should be able.
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To enjoy anything but cracker barrel malice. You are a expert in trolling. Is that just. Is that just trolling? Does she believe anything she's possibly saying?
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Dave, as a gay man that you are, I'm going to explain something to you. Women engage in something called attention seeking behavior. And they do it constantly and they do it incessantly. And women like her would used to get it for their looks. And when those looks start to fade and your face becomes pulled like silly putty so you look like a foot, you have to get your attention in other ways. So this is just the kind of things that they sit around in the hair salon, you know, talking about themselves and fluffing each other up and it's complete nonsense. And the term I popularized for these people is awfuls. Affluent white female liberals. And once you realize this is just the Xanax and the boxed wine talking, you don't need to waste your time giving it any more oxygen.
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Do you guys know if she has kids by any chance? Because there's also that component of it like the middle age. You know, this is what people say about Chelsea Handler and Sarah Silverman. Oh, apparently she has two kids there.
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Telling me right now she has kids. I assure you they're trans, not through.
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Well, I don't know. I don't know. Because Michael, I think. Because really, I think you're kind of contradicting yourself. And I'm not trying to call you out because I do think that she is LARPing. So if she's LARPing, she wouldn't let her kids be trans. Right. And this is why I think she's fake, because there is a video of her talking about. I'm guessing she lives in an affluent area and I think California. But how some black people moved into their neighborhood and they were so excited that there was black people in their neighborhood. But in reality, you know what she was really like locking her door when she dry side their house. And she's, you know, in reality she's like, oh, there's, now there's a no. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know, she feels some sort of way about it. So, so she's, she's fake. She's not really. She doesn't want her kids to be trans and she's saying this stuff because just like we like it when Donald Trump says wild stuff. She's just trying to push people's buttons. So I mean she's a phony. I don't, I don't think she's really as a leftist as she's trying to pretend to be on her podcast.
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Yeah. We also played a clip from her the night of the mom dummy win where she was basically, you know, white people have no culture. As she's standing there with Mehdi Hasan and a couple other Hamas guys and it's like, come on lady, stop. They're going to put you in a beekeeper costume. Listen to this from Jay Manarino on X. I thought this was interesting just relative to the numbers and the sex or the sex and or gender and or genital breakdown of who voted. 81% of young women voted for Mom Dhommi in New York City. 80% of young women voted for Sherrell In New Jersey, 78% of young women voted for Spangberger in Virginia. And then he editorialized a little bit. But the, the numbers there, I mean that's pretty freaking significant malice like in terms of that the sexes seem to be going in different ways when it comes to voting habits.
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Sure. But I also don't think they're consciously. I think it's more like if I'm a fat chick in high school, I'm going to listen to the Smiths and go to Hot Topic. Right. So for these especially highly educated, not particularly intelligent young women, being a Democrat and having these kind of radical leftist chic views are the same thing as speaking in up speak or having vocal fry. It's indicators of status and it's indicators of where you are. These are not deep thinkers by any measure. So it's just entirely become this status thing and you see it percolating, you know, throughout the nation. And you saw with the, with the, with the pussy hat march, I mean it was just ridiculous. They've been at this for 10 years now. They don't hate Trump. They hate dad Stein.
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What music and what store at the mall were you listening to in high school?
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Oh, I mean, I was big into Blink 182. I love the Blink 182. All the small things. That was. Gosh, that was such a good album. Them.
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And what store were you going to.
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In the mall, obviously?
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Oh, you know, and I used to hang out at the mall. The. I used to go to the. Always go to the smoothie place at the mall. I remember I used to love going to like the seven dollar smoothie. You know, I don't know why I remember that place, but yeah, we'd go to Sam Goody a lot. But the smoothie, I. I can't think of the dank smoothie place. It closed a few years ago. But I remember always wanting to get that seven dollar smoothie. And like, you know, as a kid, that was a lot of money back then.
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But that's why he's so smooth now.
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I was at the mall the other day and do you guys know that Spencer's gifts still exist?
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No.
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Oh, yeah, I shop there. Are you kidding? That's where I got this jacket. Hey, what are you telling us about? It's a great place.
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I got this inflatable couch. Wow. All right, let me show you this. This is just another one of these. Like what are these people thinking? Are they thinking anything? Vocal fry and everything else notwithstanding, a guy on the street started talking to random mom da me voters. And I think this gets to the logic of the whole thing.
C
Well, how are we going to pay for it?
B
How are we going to pay for. With tax money. With tax. Okay.
C
Where the tax dollars come from are.
A
Coming from all the billionaires and wealthy people.
C
Well, they already pay. The top 1% already pays 50% of all taxes. Yeah.
B
Can you.
C
IRS data. IRS data reflects that the top 1% already pays 50% of all taxes. But I ask you, so if you tax the rich to oblivion, what happens when the rich leave the city? Who's to tax then?
A
They won't leave the city.
C
Why not? They've already done it in California.
B
Because in New York state we have Wall Street. They're not leaving bank. And so what?
C
I think they can't leave. Then who are you going to tax when they leave?
B
We're just going to continue taxing people.
C
But you're. Oh, the middle class, right?
B
Yes, actually, the middle class.
C
Okay, so you explained it. So we're going to tax out of the middle class when the rich people leave after you tax out of them.
B
I think we should tax them. Everybody.
A
Yes, Malice. I get to see you guys while those videos are playing. And I think you nodded along with her a few times.
C
Yeah, I agree. She's. They're not leaving. Wall Street's not leaving. I don't think it's anywhere close to the point where you're going to have this wealthy exodus from New York because New York still has the status I left. But, you know, I can't. I can't just. There was lots of other things I didn't like about New York. But she's not wrong that Mamdani's gonna be in position to drive all the wealth and businesses out of New York in four years. It's not gonna happen. And one more point. My friend thinks with a tinfoil hat thinks this is a conspiracy by the real estate people to have real estate collapse because the Empire State Building is gonna be there in four years or eight years. You buy it all up and then just wait for the real estate to explode again. So that might even happen too, right?
A
You find a dual agent who's selling houses in, in Miami right now and he's buying them over there. You might be onto something, Stein. The general thought process, okay, we'll tax the high hell out of these people. And then the next statement out of her mouth is, okay, well, you know, basically once they leave, we'll tax the next one and the next one and the next one and the next one. Kind of socialism 101.
B
Well, I mean, it is socialism, but for her and Michael, I think you are right because she had that one good point. You know, Wall street is there, so that's going to keep some of institutions in New York because they can't really leave it. But at the end of the day, if you're getting taxed 52 to 50% of what you make, I do think some of these big people, like you see the Howard Stearns or you know, all these other people, they are going to go and they're going to say that I live in Florida, so that will have an effect on the city.
A
But, oh, God, is Howard Stern going to move down here? No, he's already there.
B
He's already there. Howard's been there. He lives next door to you. And he's got one of the biggest. I think he. At the time when it was built, it was the biggest personal home in Florida. I know that. Remember that documentary, the Versailles House or whatever? And that, that. I don't think that counts because it wasn't.
A
Oh, that sounds, that sounds like, carefully.
C
You could see him in the backyard when his wig is off and have the sun.
B
That's definitely a wig. You know, I'm a Howard. I. Howard Stern was my favorite. He's the only guy.
A
Used to love him.
B
70 years old, not one gray hair. I have gray hair. I mean, we all have gray hair.
C
He has gray hair.
B
In my 30s, you get gray hair.
A
Like, yeah. I mean, well, wigs don't change color, right? I mean, this isn't rocket science, guys. I'm be. Oh, I'm being told we're getting numbers on the fly. He's in Palm Be. $65 million for the home.
B
You know, a weird thing. Dave. Dave, this is the weirdest thing. This is what? This is like, the final straw, because I wouldn't listen to Howard, but he had Ed Sheeran on, and Ed Sheeran came on. This is, like, a classic clip, but you had to be kind of a Stern fan. Ed. This was, like, last year or two years ago. And Ed said, howard, I had such a great time at your house, you and Beth. And I've really enjoyed the bowling alley. And Howard cuts him off, goes, don't. Don't. What? What bowling alley? And Ed. Ed Shering. Like, is this weird? It was this very awkward moment, and then Howard Stern lied that he had a bowling alley, and then somebody went on Zillow or whatever and looked up the pictures of his bowling alley and posted it. So, like, Howard Stern is such a fraud. I was so mad. Not that I still respect him, because this is after Hillary, but I'm like, why are you lying about your bowling alley? Like, you're not. Who would be laid and who would be.
C
Who would begrudge him having a bowling alley?
A
Right?
B
Like, you don't even mention. Who cares?
A
But that. But you know what? Every. Everyone does this. You know, you saw a couple weeks ago at that Turning Point thing when that kid was like, tucker, you're worth 50 million. And he's like, no, I'm not. And then he threatened to punch somebody. A minute later, it's like, tucker is.
B
Worth probably a lot.
A
You made 25mil a year at Fox. If you're not worth 50, then you don't know what you're doing.
B
Tucker is mad because he didn't say, he's worth a nap. He didn't say, hold on.
C
The best moment of this was when Rosie o' Donnell was on the View, and she goes, barbara Walters, when I went to your house, I've ever been around such rarefied airs. You have Picassos you're the ambassador. Un. Barbara's like, no, what are you talking about? I'm a. She's like, you're rich, you earned it. I'm rich. I don't care. I'm not saying, oh, I'm regular.
B
I'm regular.
C
It's like, uh huh. With your Picassos. Sure thing, Barbara.
A
Yes, yes. With that accent. Barbara Walters. You're like, she sounded rich. She was just from whatever. All right, let's show a video of somebody sane actually making some sense. I like this guy a lot. This is Palantir CEO Alex Karp.
B
And I think the average Ivy League grad voting for this mayor is highly annoyed that their education is not that valuable. And the person down the street who knows how to drill for oil and gas, who's moved to Texas, has a more valuable profession. And I think that annoys the out of these people.
A
Yeah, Malice. I saw you nodding again. And that basically illustrates the point that you were making earlier. We would have been told for over.
C
Eight years that everyone voting for Trump is inbred in the trailer park. And these people are beneath you. And how dare they take the White House with this billionaire hick? So I don't know how that's possible. Somehow he's both. And you know, 2020 came and we returned rightfully to our place in the elite and running this country. Cuz they thought Trump was over. We beat him, the head vampire's gone. And then when he came back, it's like they don't know what to do. Everyone watching this understands. When I went to college, I got a business major. Not because I wanted it, because I knew I'm there to get a credential. That's the only thing you go to college to get. Having that Yale diploma will always open doors for you, will always be a measure of status and success. And the more that's taken away from these people, they can't compete on the other metric. These are not impressive personalities. They're only impressive on paper. And when that paper gets devalued like inflation, it makes them freak out.
A
Stein, according to my records here, your college major was underwater lesbian basket weaving. Is that correct?
B
Technically, kind of, because I graduated from lsu, so it was really vodka, but you know. And you know how to fix a hangover. I mean, when I look at this situation now, now I'm all a loss. What are we even talking about? Because now I kind of lost a train of thought.
A
Well, Alex Karp. Alex.
B
Thing I want to disagree with Alex. Alex on. He said these people that graduate from Yale, you know, they look at a, you know, person that's on the oil and gas business. I just. Now, Alex Carp is a very smart guy, but people that actually make money in the oil gas business, the roughnecks do okay. But they're petroleum engineers. And I knew a lot of petroleum engineers at lsu. Believe it or not, they were the. Really. They were pretty smart. It was hard. Everybody wants to be a petroleum engineer. So it's like, you know, I don't know if that's really a great comparison because I know they're not Yale graduates. But if you graduated from the petroleum engineering degree from lsu, you could get a job with Exxon and literally out of college, make like half a million dollars. They're not dummies.
C
Ask that Yale person what they think of that Yale petroleum engineer. And they're not our kind of people. It's like old money versus new money. That's all I'm saying.
A
Malice, wasn't P. Diddy a petroleum engineer?
B
Technically? God, really?
C
Reuben? Seriously?
B
Jesus.
A
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B
You have been politically outspoken in the past. In the first Trump administration. You had a lot to say.
A
I'm curious.
B
How you feel about talking out now. I don't really know if I should. I think the first Trump administration was so wild and just how can we let this stand?
A
I felt like, like I was running.
B
Around like a chicken with my head cut off. But as we've learned, election after election, celebrities do not make a difference whatsoever on who people vote for. And so then what am I doing? I'm just sharing my opinion on something that's going to just add fuel to a fire that's ripping the country apart.
A
Xanax. That's what it should, that's what it should have said right there. Stein. It is nice to hear a celebrity admit that they are just babbling about nonsense and largely alienating their audiences. And the amount of times that I open up Netflix or Hulu or whatever, and I'm like, oh, that person called me a racist. That one called me Nazi. But I'm like, I can't watch anything anymore. Bette Midler called me a racist.
C
Is she really?
A
Yeah, I can't watch that episode of Seinfeld anymore.
B
Is that true? Bette Midler really did call you a racist. Oh, wow, that's a big one.
A
Martina Navratila, I think, called me a Nazi. Now I can't watch old tennis matches. It's horrible.
C
You don't like women's tennis. Were you fooling?
A
That's true. That's true. That one was a favor.
B
I mean, it's just, it's absolutely ludicrous. Dave. I just, and I honestly forgot about this question, too. Who are we even talking about again? I don't want to be on that's.
A
Dude, you can get one during a show. You can't get two malice. Celebrities. Celebrities.
B
Oh, yeah. I'm happy she admits that.
C
She.
B
We don't care about celebrities. Opinions. That's the only thing she said. That's the one humble, humble thing Jennifer Lawrence ever said. I just, we get all these side quests during these interviews. One second you're talking about Bette Midler. I forget that we're even talking about Jennifer Lawrence. J.
C
Law.
B
So, I mean, it's, it's, this is a wild show, but it's always.
C
I think Alex is doing a great Biden impression.
A
This must be Alex. You go one week without having a podcast and you just, I can't, I'm.
B
Not even paying attention. I, I, I'm losing the question. And then I'm looking at Michael the whole time, and then already I felt roasted. You're like, what? Prime time with Alex Stein? She already got me emotional. So. So, Dave, I'm having a hard time. I lost my job. Please out there, donate. I need a PayPal. I need money.
A
Listen, the last clip I'm going to show you. I got one more and then I'm going to show you a clip of Sydney Sweeney. That's a nice way. Yeah, you can go ahead, Malice. I'm just trying to. I'm trying to calm him down.
C
He's about to be. He's about to be unemployed or he's unemployed. Look at some stuff.
B
I am.
C
The thing that she said that most caught my attention, it was when she said she was running around like a chicken with her head cut off. Off because she had no brain. And I love it. When she was introduced, you had outspoken opinions. No, you didn't. You had the exact same opinions of your entire peer group. You had no negative consequences, all positive consequences. But like I was saying earlier in the Nancy Pelosi clip we had. They got the memo. Go home and shut up because all you're doing is getting the Trump people to the polls. You're not getting our people to the polls. It's counterproductive. Someone got on the phone with this broad and she got the memo. And she's not the only one.
A
Someone did not get on the phone with this broad.
C
Oh, boy. So I wanted to take advantage of.
A
The fact that as the first lady, yes, you can be smart and educated and beautiful and sexy and interesting and all those things. And yes, you can be a Black woman.
B
A tall 511 Black woman.
C
Can we put up her.
A
Stein, I'm not even gonna ask you a question.
B
I don't want to throw you off.
C
Just speak. Just speak. Speak. I don't.
B
I don't. I don't. Michelle Obama. 511. I mean, come on. I mean, you know what I mean? What I. Come on, give me a break. I don't want to say Michael. I'm not going to say that. That's the. You know. But come on. I mean, she's just.
C
He's so defeated, he can't even handle it.
B
I can't even speak. Just. I'm going to just let you guys make your own assumptions when you see that, because there's nothing that I can tell you to change your mind or convince you.
C
1. Can we put up her picture really quick from that?
A
We can. We can picture.
B
Yeah.
A
They're gonna. They're gonna Put the picture up.
B
Michelle. The fact that Michelle looks like a linebacker for the Chicago.
C
Doesn't she look like a drag queen version of Easter Island? Like in that outfit? She looks like someone took one of those big head statues with that forehead and just put drag makeup. Yeah, that's drag. Easter Island. It's in it since. And you can see why Obama's dipping his ink in Jennifer Aniston instead of she thing.
A
That's the rumor. That's the rumor.
B
Him.
C
She'd make a good beard.
A
She would make a good beard. All right, guys, one more. Stan, I really want you to knock this one out of the park, okay? Because you're out of work right now. I know there's a lot going on. You're a vegetarian. You know What? Let's. Let's PayPal him like 10 bucks, please.
B
PayPal Cash App Venmo.
A
I don't even think I'm off.
C
Can you put up the receipt on the screen when you PayPal him 10 bucks?
A
Yeah, I'm gonna PayPal Stein 10. We'll put it in the comments.
B
Please don't W2ME. Do not W2ME. Just please. I can't. I'm already behind.
C
I guess the gifts and go to you, huh?
A
Yeah, I'll send you a bottle of tequila. All right. So Sydney Sweeney, everyone knows she's got great jeans, she's got big boobs. She went on this podcast and this I don't know who the ghost is, but she tries to guilt her about basically that whole marketing thing. Watch this.
B
The criticism of the content, which was basically that maybe specifically in this political climate, like white people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority. Like that was kind of like the criticism, broadly speaking. And since you are talking about this, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically. I think that when I have an issue that I want to speak about, people will hear.
A
I was going to start with Stein, but I'm going to give him the last word because malice. The way that Sydney Sweeney was given side eye to that girl as she was asking that guilt ridden woeful like that was Bea Arthur Rue McClanahan Level.
C
Side Eye right there, you know, that broadheaded mustache. I think it's kind of really gross. That Sid Sweet. The idea, like we're told that Michelle Obama is beautiful, but like a pretty nine white girl can't be beautiful. Like what happens to everyone's beautiful. This ad wasn't Nazi in any way. It was just a regular person who's an actress who's in jeans. This is the norm. And Steve Saylor has his rule of journalism that every female journalist has a rule come the revolution that she will personally be found more attractive. So, of course, this, you know, Midwest five wants Sid Sweeney to seek her approval. And I'm so glad we're at a point where Sweeney's like, I don't know who you are and I don't need you.
A
Stein, bring us home.
B
Well, I have to give it to this journalist because just the way that they would ask the questions to Sydney Sweeney, they're very leading, but it was just almost like, it was just a very weird, awkward dance in this. The body motion, everything just the slow, the pace. Like everything was like. It was like she was trying to press her in the most gentle way possible. And I think City Sweeney kind of felt that and gave her that, you know, reciprocal kind of energy. But I, I do want to say this. She asked her another question about her fame. Has, you know, has the fame changed her? City said, no, not really. And I think that from the interview and how her approach, it seemed like Sydney Sweeney was being real. So if Sydney Sweeney is this humble and she's not afraid to be herself, it makes her a lot more likable than the Jennifer Lawrence's and the people that are so scared to talk about it. So I'm so happy that she's having the success and the fact that she'll show her boobs on Twitter. I mean, you know, you can't beat that. So.
A
And speaking of likable, that's why I want all of you to donate to Alex Stein. He's struggling right now. I'm pretty sure that's a fake fire behind him.
B
It is fake.
A
He's on. He's on PayPal. He's on Venmo.
B
I'm going to. I'll send you guys a Zell request and. But I do want to say luckily though David is not. I am not totally destitute. Luckily. A Turning Point usa they have been, you know, I am a representative of their organization. So luckily I. I'm okay. I'm okay. So don't, don't feel so. But I am struggling. I'm doing bad. So if you want to PayPal me, I need it too.
A
But I do have no Turning Point. Does have a pretty good craft service table. You're doing okay. Malice. Bring us home for the weekend, everyone.
C
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Watching the Reuben Report.
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Yes.
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You know exactly what you're doing and you seem to be having a good time while you're doing it. We'll be right back.
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Episode Title: Zohran Mamdani Looks Embarrassed After Publicly Admitting His First Major Reversal
Host: Dave Rubin
Guests: Michael Malice, Alex Stein
Date: November 7, 2025
This lively Friday roundtable features Dave Rubin, Michael Malice, and Alex Stein as they dissect the controversies and cultural trends in American politics for the week. The primary focus is on the stunning New York City mayoral victory of Zohran Mamdani and his immediate policy reversals, with broader commentary on the left vs. right culture clash, political hypocrisy, and the ever-polarizing influence of media and celebrities. The dynamic is freewheeling, sardonic, and unfiltered, aiming to lampoon what the hosts view as the absurdities of modern progressive politics while riffing on recent news, political theater, and social media phenomena.
On Mamdani’s Immediate Fundraising Reversal:
“Within 24 hours of a guy saying everything's going to be free, begging for money, that's actually baked into exactly what he's doing.” — Dave Rubin [03:55]
On Identity Politics:
“It's oppressors and oppressed. That's why the Jews in this city feel scared because they know he has labeled them as the oppressors.” — Dave Rubin [07:55]
On Cyclical Realities of NYC Politics:
“I wouldn't want to go against the city council, the real estate people, the police unions... He's 34. He's going to staff it either with green people, meaning fresh to the scene, or party hacks.” — Michael Malice [05:09]
On Party Strategy:
“If Democrats start talking about their faith and putting their religion first and foremost and discarding this WOKE stuff... all those swing voters are gonna vote for them.” — Michael Malice [15:45]
On Wealth Exodus Myths:
“I don't think it's anywhere close to the point where you're going to have this wealthy exodus from New York because New York still has the status...” — Michael Malice [30:22]
On Celebrity Influence:
“Celebrities do not make a difference whatsoever on who people vote for. And so then what am I doing? I'm just sharing my opinion on something that's going to just add fuel to a fire...” — Jennifer Lawrence [38:23]
On AWFLs and Virtue Signaling:
“The term I popularized for these people is awfuls. Affluent white female liberals. And once you realize this is just the Xanax and the boxed wine talking, you don't need to waste your time giving it any more oxygen.” — Michael Malice [25:04]
The conversation maintains a sarcastic, sometimes biting tone with casual adult language, mockery, and pop culture references interwoven throughout. The original, off-the-cuff banter and unapologetically skeptical outlook on progressive politics, media figures, and urban governance are consistent across segments.
This episode typifies The Rubin Report’s mix of insider political analysis, sardonic cultural commentary, and irreverent humor. The panel tears into recent progressive political victories, the state of woke culture, celebrity activism, and the shifting landscape within the Democratic Party—all through the lens of outlandish reversals, cults of personality, performative virtue signaling, and the unending churn of politics as a spectacle. For listeners seeking a comedic, pointed critique of recent left-leaning developments—especially in New York and the media ecosystem—this episode delivers a no-holds-barred rundown.