Bill Nighy Doesn’t Want To Be Mistaken For Someone Who Knows What To Do

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Run-Through with Vogue

Episode: Bill Nighy Doesn’t Want To Be Mistaken For Someone Who Knows What To Do
Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Chloe Malle & Chioma Nnadi
Guest: Bill Nighy

---

Overview

This episode of The Run-Through with Vogue combines the week’s major fashion news with a witty and heartfelt conversation between Chioma Nnadi and celebrated actor Bill Nighy. The discussion weaves through Bill’s sharply defined sartorial philosophies, his approach to giving and receiving life advice, his thoughts on “Love Actually” and holiday dilemmas, and his upcoming projects. Throughout, Bill’s signature dry humor and self-deprecating wisdom shine.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Met Gala Announcement & New Vogue Headlines

• Met Gala Exhibition (Costume Art):

  • The new exhibition theme is simply "Costume Art," focusing on how clothing and art shape perceptions of the human body, deliberately without a subtitle for dramatic effect.
  • The newly named “Conde M. Nast Galleries” at the Met mark a significant expansion, honoring Vogue’s founder and boasting a redesigned space with archival family ties and architectural gravitas.
  • “The simplicity of the show name really adds to the point that [Andrew Bolton]'s trying to get across, which is that fashion should be on the same caliber and plane as any type of fine art.” (Chloe Malle, 07:10)

• Vanity Fair’s "Internet Boyfriends" Cover:

  • Praise and amusement for VF’s cover featuring a lineup of star actors and musicians, capturing “the best boys of Hollywood” in a playful beach scene.
  • The editorial is described as “joyful,” evoking nostalgia for the heyday of glossy magazines.
  • “Joyful is what we really needed. Like a little bit of a pick me up. And that's exactly what I think that I want from a mag like Vanity Fair.” (Cho Manardi, 09:19)

• Fashion Current Events:

  • Choma describes attending the GQ Men of the Year awards and wearing a suit by rising London designer Aaron Ash, noting the resurgence of Savile Row–style tailoring.
  • Special mention of Skepta, honored for both music and design, and the importance of immigrant experiences.
  • Shout-out to Anthony Price’s demi-couture collaboration with 16 Arlington, notable for Lily Allen’s runway debut and “revenge dress” homage.

2. Chioma’s Interview with Bill Nighy (19:28 - 51:30)

The central segment: a humorous, thoughtful, and practical Q&A covering style, advice, and more.

On His Podcast and Giving Advice

• Reluctance to Be “An Authority”:
  • “When you get to my age, the risk is you're mistaken for somebody who knows what to do… I don't want to be mistaken for anybody who knows what to do. But… my only value really is that I'm quite good at what not to do.” (Bill Nighy, 21:07)
  • Emphasizes humility, humor, and the importance of learning from mistakes.
  • Approach to advice: offering “a cup of tea and squandered time,” not hard answers.

Frequently Asked Style Questions

• Socks: The Non-Negotiable
  • “Is it ever acceptable to go out for a man to go out sockless into the world?...There is never an acceptable time unless he's… rush released from hospital or something or… has become insane. No, I can't. I don't even want to sit or stand near a man who's not wearing any socks unless he's on a beach.” (Bill Nighy, 22:53)
  • Pantherella cited as the gold standard for socks (36:20).
• Suits: Philosophy and Preference
  • Aspires to own “seven suits for every day of the week,” all exquisitely simple in navy or dark gray, with pleats and turn-ups (“cuffs”), never trendy flat fronts.
  • "I love the idea of limited choice, and they're all being exquisite... I love the idea of having seven suits exactly the same.” (24:41)
  • Never wears trainers (sneakers). Only once, for an acting gag. Dresses up for flights: suit and tie, real shoes (“I have never worn trainers in my life.” 28:47)
  • Shoes: Favors classic Churches and Cheaney’s Oxfords or loafers (29:42).
  • Eyewear: Loyal to Cutler and Gross; story about finding the right bold glasses (31:00).
• Personal Style Advice:
  • Simplicity and quality over trends: Levi 501s, DM (Doc Martens) shoes in brown, a Harrington jacket (“You can't go wrong, you know, and you'll be fine on the plane in the airport.” 27:14).

On Giving and Getting Life Advice

• Goes to his daughter and a few close friends for advice, emphasizing trust and honesty over conventional wisdom (23:55).
• His daughter once gave him a book of poems and prose she’d copied by hand—a “top present” for its time and personal meaning (44:23).

Questions from Listeners & Holiday Wisdom

• On gifts for men who “don’t drink or care about tools”: Suggests a book or socks, but insists most dads do genuinely want socks.
• On holiday stress with in-laws: Suggests asking about their early life to find unexpected common ground, or doing something nice anonymously: “There is that thing of doing something nice for someone without them finding out.” (37:27)
• On decluttering when moving in with a partner: Ruthlessly pare back to what is “beautiful or essential or both”; don’t keep unnecessary books or clothes (“I love getting rid of stuff.” 45:20).
• On essential items: A kettle for tea, Marmite, and never checking a bag (“I haven’t checked a bag for 20 years.” 47:25).
• On New Year’s resolutions: Humorously dismisses their effectiveness, his main goal being to “shut up”—advice to himself as much as anyone else (“Just shut up. Let other people do the talking. But that lasts till about January 3rd.” 49:01).

Holiday Films and Acting

• Thoughts on “Love Actually”: Believes people love the film because it’s about decency and “how good things can be”—a “searingly honest” positive story (32:27).
• Avoids watching his own films due to discomfort with seeing his performance (“I don’t have… I have probably some kind of overall dysmorphia. I don’t like looking at myself, and I don’t like the sound of myself, particularly.” 34:00).
• Finds ease in viewing his animated/special effects performances (as a “squid man”) and enjoyed viewing “Pirates of the Caribbean” in Anaheim with an audience (35:22).

Fun & Memorable Moments

• Air guitar anecdotes: Aspires to compete at an air guitar championship; lauds Bradley Cooper’s legendary performance on Jimmy Fallon (38:11).
  • “He mimics precisely, note for note, Neil Young’s guitar solo… one of, if not the finest achievement of any air guitar player in the history of air guitar.” (Bill Nighy)
• On proposing: Suggests doing it in the rain, nonchalantly—“Baby, what do you think?,” and if the answer isn’t yes, pretend you’re joking (43:06).
• Endearing self-deprecation: On sticking to resolutions and giving advice:
  • “My advice? Honestly, God help you all.” (Bill Nighy, 51:30)

Upcoming Projects

• “Ride or Die” — plays boss of a female assassin agency with Hannah Waddingham; promises good suits.
• “California Avenue” — new project with Helena Bonham Carter, Tom Burke, and Erin Doherty, set in a UK caravan park in 1975. Described as unexpected and funny (50:00).

---

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On age and advice:
  “When you get to my age, the risk is you’re mistaken for somebody who knows what to do.”
  — Bill Nighy (21:07)

• On going sockless:
  “There is never an acceptable time unless he’s been rush released from hospital or… has become insane.”
  — Bill Nighy (22:53)

• On decluttering:
  “The more you throw away, the more thrilling it’s going to be. I love getting rid of stuff… Anything that’s in my house has to either be beautiful or essential or both.”
  — Bill Nighy (45:20)

• On style:
  “I love the idea of limited choice, and they’re all being exquisite… I love the idea of having seven suits exactly the same.”
  — Bill Nighy (24:41)

• On New Year’s resolutions:
  “Just shut up. Let other people do the talking. But that lasts till about January 3rd.”
  — Bill Nighy (49:01)

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Met Gala & Vanity Fair recap: 02:47–09:52
• London fashion scene highlights: 10:15–16:41
• Chioma’s interview with Bill Nighy begins: 19:28
• Advice on style and socks: 22:00–27:20
• On personal style, shoes, decluttering: 29:00–46:44
• Holiday, family, gifts, and films: 32:02–44:23
• Air guitar, pop culture references, humor: 38:04–41:33
• Upcoming projects: 49:47–51:21

---

Summary for New Listeners

The Run-Through with Vogue balances fashion news, personalities, and deeper life reflections. In this episode, the always witty Bill Nighy dispenses minimalist style wisdom, holiday survival tips, and stories from his iconic career—plus a healthy dose of humility (“God help you all”). Whether you’re seeking wardrobe inspiration, life lessons in letting go, or a good laugh about socks and air guitar, this episode delivers with signature Vogue polish and Nighy’s irreverent charm.

Transcript

[Cho Manardi]

Hi listeners, it's Cho Manardi here. We're currently conducting a survey of our audience and want to hear from you as a run through listener. This is one of the best ways for us to learn about what you value as a listener and a chance for you to help shape the future of our shows. As a token of our appreciation, you'll be eligible to enter a prize drawing up to $1,000 after you complete the survey. You can find a link to the survey in our episode Notes there's nothing like finding the perfect gift for someone special, but what to do when you can't decide what that is? Macy's has you covered. Not only do they have all the trendiest items of the year, they also have free personal stylists who can help you match them with that extra special someone. So you can feel excited, not anxious, watching them peel back the paper with surprise to find a gift neither of you would have thought of. Skip the stress and let a personal stylist scour all of Macy's catalogs and brands for you. Need it shipped? They'll handle that too. With Macy's Black Friday sale happening now, you can get all your holiday shopping done at huge savings all in one place. Book your personal styling session today at Macy's, online or in store. It's the best gift you could give yourself this holiday season.

[Sponsor Voice 1]

The holidays are nearly here and comfort could be the best gift of all for your loved ones. Quince delivers layers that last Sweaters, outerwear and everyday essentials that feel luxurious, look timeless and make holiday gifting and dressing effortless. Quince has it all. $50 Mongolian cashmere sweaters Denim that never goes out of style, silk tops and skirts that add polish and down outerwear built to take on the season. I gifted myself the Mongolian Cashmere Fisherman's cardigan. It's exactly the kind of easy outfit upgrade I rely on to take me from running around to my kids activities to to zoom meetings at home to dinner out with my husband. All while keeping me cozy and comfortable. By working directly with ethical top tier factories, Quince skips the middlemen and offers prices 50% less than similar brands. Perfect for gifting or upgrading your own wardrobe. Step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished and last. From Quince, Perfect for gifting or keeping for yourself. Go to quince.com runthrough for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U I N C E.com runthrough to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quint.com runthrough.

[Chloe Mao]

This is the run through. I'm Chloe Mao.

[Cho Manardi]

And I'm Chairman Nadi.

[Chloe Mao]

Today on the show, Bill Nighy came to the London podcast studio to chat with Choma about his personal style and give our listeners some end of the year advice. Choma, I want to hear everything. I love Bill Nye.

[Cho Manardi]

I know, I know. Bill was an absolute dream. He came in one of his beautifully tailored suits with a John Smedley knit that he designed himself underneath it. He's very precise. I love that he's never worn sneakers in his life and he wears suits on the plane. And he's just kind of an example of someone who has really kind of amazing, amazing style, but also like their style is kind of like a part of how they live their life. Everything is precise, everything is pared back. Apparently his home is really spartan and has very little furniture in it. And he just has a really wry sense of humor and I loved talking to him. He has a great new podcast called Ill Advise and to be honest, I would take any of his life advice. Cause I think he, he's just, he, he's just full of little funny pearls of wisdom.

[Chloe Mao]

I'm really excited to listen. Now, Choma was a big week at Vogue because it was the Met gala exhibition announcement.

[Cho Manardi]

I know it was. I think every. Everyone is quite excited about the new exhibit. Tell me everything. Well, it was.

[Chloe Mao]

What was exciting about this Monday's announcement was that it was not just the announcement of the exhibition theme, which is costume art. No subtitle. It is about the way the body is clothed throughout art and especially looking at the Met's collection and the way clothes define the body and accentuate the body. But it was also the announcement of the new Conde M. Nast Galleries at the Met, which are really going to be monumental. They are taking over what once was the gift shop at the Met and it is a huge, enormous space. And in honor of them being named after the late founder of Conde Nast, Mr. Conde M. Nast. His daughter, Lady Leslie Bonham Carter. Yes. She is related to Helena. She is 95 years old and she came from the UK for the opening. So that felt very fun and special.

[Cho Manardi]

Did you meet her?

[Chloe Mao]

I did meet her and Layer did an amazing piece on her with these incredible archive images of her from like 5 years old.

[Cho Manardi]

Wow.

[Chloe Mao]

So that was really fun.

[Cho Manardi]

Well, I'll have to look that up. I'm quite curious to see like what her style Timeline looked like.

[Chloe Mao]

Yeah, the new galleries are really going to be incredible. Cause they speak to the original architecture and really are going to feel like an extension of the Great hall entryway, but have been completely reconceived to stand on their own. And it's the architects, Marianne Peterson and Nathan Rich. This is actually Andrew Bolton's first exhibition that has no subtitle. It's very dramatique. And the simplicity of the show name really adds to the point that he's trying to get across, which is that fashion should be on the same caliber and plane as any type of fine art. And I've seen Andrew's pinned sort of, you know, not mood board, but it really is sort of the mapping out of the show in the bowels of the Met, which is one of my favorite places to go because it's where all the conservation happens. And it's so fun to explore down there and be able to sort of peek into what behind the scenes. But he has broken the show into different sections that speak to different types of bodies, from the anatomical body to the classical body, the corpulent body. They're the aging body and they're really beautiful dichotomies and sort of diptychs that he's created between fine art from the Met's collection and costume art, as we'll call it. But different fashion moments that speak to those pieces.

[Cho Manardi]

It's super exciting. And I'm sure there's already chatter around what this will mean for the red carpet.

[Chloe Mao]

Well, yes, but Anna's extremely focused on the fact that this is not a show about naked dressing. This is about the clothed body.

[Cho Manardi]

I was like, come as you are, literally.

[Chloe Mao]

Yeah, exactly. Choma. Big day at Vanity Fair on Tuesday. Marco Medicci's first issue. I thought it was so fun, so joyful. It just felt like an old school magazine romp that you wanted to jump into.

[Cho Manardi]

It was so, so, so fun. And it created so much conversation on my feed. I think people were very invested in which Internet boyfriend was featured on the COVID because there were so many great guys. I mean, the list is endless. There was Jonathan Bailey, Austin Butler, Glenn Powell, Michael B. Jordan, Callum Turner, Harry Stickinson, Lakeith Stanfield, Riz Ahmed, Paul Mascow. Oh, my God. I can't. I don't think I'm going to be able to take. I need to take a breath here. Andrew Garfield, Jeremy Allen White and our fave A$AP Rocky, who looked, I think, particularly good in the pictures on the beach. And it just felt like I don't know, you sort of wanted to be part of their beach picnic, whatever.

[Chloe Mao]

Their picnic, their pirates.

[Cho Manardi]

It was a real like, it was like washed up at shore. All the best boys of Hollywood. It was fab. It was so fab. Shot by Theo Wenner, whose work I really love, and styled by Tom Guinness, who is the husband of a longtime Vogue contributor and friend, Tish Weinstock. So it was really cool to see our friend and colleague Mark Guiducci bring his vision to life. It was so exciting and joyful. Joyful is what we really needed. Like some, a little bit of a pick me up. And that's exactly what I think that I want from a mag like Vanity Fair.

[Chloe Mao]

I know. And all the COVID lines and the collages of the different moments. I just thought it felt.

[Cho Manardi]

Old school.

[Chloe Mao]

Heyday of magazines was what was what I found. But it did make me laugh. The idea of celebrating the Internet boyfriend.

[Cho Manardi]

His boyfriends were embarrassing or have been embarrassing.

[Chloe Mao]

We're really whiplashing over here, kind of, Nash.

[Cho Manardi]

I mean, people are back, you know, boyfriends are back. They're no longer embarrassing. Well, speaking of men or boyfriends, I, I yesterday night I went to the GQ men of, of the. In London.

[Chloe Mao]

Oh, yes.

[Cho Manardi]

Which was super fun.

[Chloe Mao]

Boys are back.

[Cho Manardi]

Boys are back.

[Chloe Mao]

What did you wear? I always like to hear about your event dressing. Choma.

[Cho Manardi]

Oh, sure. I can tell you. I can unpack that for you. So I actually Charlotte on the team is one of the wonderful women on the fashion team who has been helping dress and style me. Thought it would be nice if I wore a suit, which I thought was great. Cause any opportunity to wear a suit, I'll take it. And there's a young designer in London called Aaron Ash, who I'm a huge fan of, who's been kind of bringing this very like, I guess this a little bit of the indie sleeve, skinny suited vibe back. And he has Savile Row training, so his suits are really precise. So I was, I was, I was curious to see what the suit would feel and look like in person. Because actually I've only ever seen his, his clothes on the Runway and never up close in person. And he had this fabulous suit which we called in that I wore that double breasted suit which by the way, is really hard to wear open.

[Chloe Mao]

Oh, but that's here.

[Cho Manardi]

But his you can wear open. It was just so beautifully tailored. I wore it with this really feathery scarf that he had accessorized in the show. And I wore it with a sort of simple tank top underneath and it just was so effortless. I hate to use the word effortless, but it really was. And I just felt really perfectly right for the occasion. I saw all of our faves. Gwendolyn Christie. I was, I was texting with Cynthia Riva all night, being like, I'm gonna see Wicked this weekend and I can't wait. Like, I just can't wait. Like, are you gonna go? I'm, I am 100% gonna go. I've been like looking forward to it.

[Chloe Mao]

In tears.

[Sponsor Voice 1]

I love that.

[Cho Manardi]

In fears. Like, it is so, like, I think I cried last time. I'm such a, you know, you know me, I'm a bit, I'm a big emo mess. So I'm very excited to see it this weekend. And yeah, no, it was a really star studded room. Skepta, who I imagine most of our American listeners will know is a huge, huge rapper in the UK and is also a designer in his own right. Daniel Lee gave a really touching speech for Skepta, who's one of the men of the year. And it was just great to see him dressed in, actually in his own designs. He has a line called Maine and he was, he brought his mother and father and he was talking about what it means to be an immigrant in London and how important that is right now given the political climate. And his speech was really touching. He, Pierce Brosnan was also honored, who was fab and looked completely dapper. It was a great, it was a great, it was a great night. It was a really fun night.

[Chloe Mao]

Oh, I love that choma. What else were you up to this week?

[Cho Manardi]

It's been quite a busy week in London. It's been really, I've been. I felt really energized. On Monday night, a group of us from the British Vogue offices went over to, to see what Marco Capaldi, who is the creative director of sixteen Arlington, was up to for a collaboration he did with Anthony Price. And Anthony Price hasn't showed in London for, I mean, decades. But he is kind of a living legend. He's most known for the work that he did with Roxy music in the 70s and 80s. So all of those wonderful Robert Palmer moments that you can think of, like he dressed those women and so it was just the most glamorous thing ever. London isn't a place I normally associate with like high, high glamour. But he made a collection that was basically Demi Couture. It was made to order and extremely glamorous evening dresses. And the casting was just to die for. Everybody loves. Everybody loves Marco So Marco basically assembled all of his, like, best model girlfriends, including Lily Allen, who made her Runway debut. And everybody was.

[Chloe Mao]

I know, I couldn't believe that was such a get.

[Cho Manardi]

It was an amazing get and she killed it. Her walk was incredible. She came out smoking, which I thought was heaven, even though we do not encourage smoking on this show. But I did think it kind of went with the vibe. And everybody instantly connected the dress that she wore, which was this velvet midnight blue, form fitting, strapless, divine kind of hourglass dress, to Diana's revenge dress. And obviously very apropos for her, who is in her revenge dress era and is looking amazing. And I just can't wait to see her in concert. Like, it's gonna be the hottest ticket in town when it, when she does those shows in March. We're all kind of eagerly awaiting for them. And then besides that, it was all of our favorite models. Paloma was there, Adjoa, who looked divine, and her sister Keshua, Lara Stone, Lila Moss, and then Edie Campbell, who looked incredible. It was, it was, it was a really fabulous. In a kind of really cold, miserable week, and was off schedule, but managed to get the entire fashion crowd there. And he showed in his studio. So it was really intimate. And even though, you know, traveling to East London can be a bit of a drag if you're based in central like we are, but it was well worth the journey. And it was such a fab start to the week. So I'm excited. I mean, it's a kind of like a taster of maybe what the, what the sort of pre collection shows that are coming up. Oh, and I saw, and actually I ran into Hamish Bowles at our beloved colleague at the show, and he was actually pretty much like packing for Doha because I think this week there's this huge gala honoring Franca Sozzani, the Franca Fund Gala. And so he was very excited. So I'll be catching up with him hopefully in the hallways here to get a download of what that was like.

[Chloe Mao]

You can also read about it on vogue.com because he will be covering for us. But yes, it's a big, big hullabaloo this weekend in Doha. Francesco Carrazini, Her Excellency, Sheikha Al Mayasa Bint Hamad al Thani and Anna Wintour are hosting the first ever Franca Fun gala, which honors Carotzini's late mother ob legendary Italian Vogue editor Franco Sozzani and raises money to support ongoing research in preventative genomics.

[Cho Manardi]

And the run through will be back in A moment with my convo with Bill Nighy.

[Sponsor Voice 2]

Famous Amos. It's a brand synonymous with chocolate chip cookies. It's also the creation of my dad, Wally Amos. When he passed away last year, I set out to understand how he became one of the most famous black men in America and how his life and our family unraveled. From Vanity Fair, this is Tough Cookie, the Wally Famous Amos Story. Available wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sponsor Voice 1]

This show is supported by Odoo. When you buy business software from lots of vendors, the costs add up and it gets complicated and confusing. Odoo solves this. It's a single company that sells a suite of enterprise apps that handles everything from accounting to inventory to sales. Odoo is all connected on a single platform in a simple and affordable way. You can save money without missing out on the features you need. Check out Odoo at O D O o dot com. That's O D O o dot com.

[Sponsor Voice 3]

Holiday shopping season is officially here. Uncommon Goods takes the stress out of gifting with thousands of unique, high quality finds you won't see anywhere. Most of their products are handcrafted by independent artists and small businesses, so you can find one of a kind gifts for the one of a kind people in your life. I just used Uncommon Goods. I ordered some fantastic bath bombs for my children. One of them has a little volcano you put over the bath bomb and so the bath bomb erupts through it. And let me tell you, Arthur Albert.

[Chloe Mao]

Is a huge fan.

[Sponsor Voice 3]

So don't wait. Cross those names off your list before the rush. To get 15% off your next gift, go to UncommonGoods.com runthrough that's UncommonGoods.com runthrough R u n t h r u for 15% off Uncommon Goods, we're all out of the ordinary.

[Cho Manardi]

And we're back. Bill, thank you so much for joining the pod today.

[Bill Nighy]

My pleasure.

[Cho Manardi]

Yeah, we loved having your advice on our agony uncle series. It was wildly successful and obviously now you've got your own podcast. How's that been going? Because we've been loving it.

[Bill Nighy]

I think it's been going okay. I mean, I'm not out there in the world too much in terms of cyberspace, but I'm, I'm reassured by my, what I like to call my team that we're doing okay. It was, I tried not to have a podcast and I was quite, quite uneasy about it and I withdrew at the last minute like three times because I thought I'm not really. That I'm not in the world in that way. You know, I just go to work and I do press and stuff for work. But beyond that, I don't really want to comment. But then I got persuaded into it and I do. And it was quite good fun and people seem to like it.

[Cho Manardi]

Well, I think. I think it can be quite daunting. But I think you've settled into it very quickly and. And as we enter the holiday season, we thought it would be just the right time to get some of your wonderful advice. So we've had some holidays, so there'll be some holiday related questions in the mix. We've gotten so many great questions from Vogue readers and listeners and. And it's clear people are very, very excited to get your help. It's a difficult time of the year for many people. But before we get into question, I think it's so amazing that you've. You've dedicated your whole show to helping people through the quandaries of their life. Like what excites helping people navigate their problems.

[Bill Nighy]

I put enough kind of waivers in place. Like, you know, when you get to my age, the risk is you're mistaken for somebody who knows what to do, which is true. Cause you only have to look on the Internet or in your newspaper if you still read one and see how well that's going with old men roaming around the world, you know, making various kinds of mess of everything. It was an invitation to squander time and that I will help you waste some time. It's a cup of tea with me. And I like the idea of it being sort of inconsequential. But in the meantime, yeah, there are. We do smuggle in some advice. But I don't want to be. If I. I don't want to. I really don't want to be mistaken for anybody who knows what to do. But I. But because I got most things completely around the wrong way when I was younger, then my only value really is that I'm quite good at what not to do. I'm not necessarily great at knowing how to proceed, you know, in a positive fashion, but I know kind of. I've been. I fel enough traps to know where they might lie.

[Cho Manardi]

Well, is there a question you get asked again and again?

[Bill Nighy]

Well, I. Luckily I generally get asked questions about trousers or socks.

[Cho Manardi]

Let me just say that Bill's wearing the most exquisite suit right now with a John Smedley sweater of his own design, which I would like to steal for myself because it looks very beautiful. Fine knit, which they're known for before you proceed. I just needed to put that in.

[Bill Nighy]

Thank you. I'm sure that Schmedley of your choice would be on its way to you within seconds should you. Should you glance at the catalog? Well, I mean, the one that comes to mind is. Is it. Is it ever acceptable to wear to. To go out sockless in public?

[Cho Manardi]

I'd love to know your thoughts.

[Bill Nighy]

Well, I mean, you know my response to that. You don't. The. The only remarkable thing is that anybody bothers to ask me. It's like Miranda Sawyer and the observer, who lied to me and pretended that these were questions that had come from elsewhere, but actually they were her questions that she. Solely to wind me up. And the first one was, is it ever acceptable to go out for a man to go out sockless into the world? And. And I said to her, you can consider my mouth. You can say his mouth fell open because obviously there is never an acceptable time unless he's. I don't know, unless he's been rush. Released from hospital or something or, I don't know, has become insane. No, I can't. I don't even want to sit or stand near a man who's not wearing any socks unless he's on a beach.

[Cho Manardi]

I'm with you. I'm totally with you on that.

[Bill Nighy]

Good. Good.

[Cho Manardi]

Is there anyone that you go to for. For life advice?

[Bill Nighy]

For life advice?

[Cho Manardi]

Yeah.

[Bill Nighy]

Yeah. I do have a couple of friends that I would. If there was something that I was really struggling with, I would run by them. My daughter, actually is better at everything than I am. And I'm not being cute. She's just better at everything than I am. And she's always been in better shape than I am, than I am. And she's a very. I would completely rely upon her. And she. She can talk to me in a way that nobody else can talk to me, you know, so it's. It's very. I know that I'm gonna get the facts.

[Cho Manardi]

Well, I think I mentioned this earlier. We talked about your suits earlier, but you've actually been crowned a menswear king by gq. I know you have seven suits for every day of the week. Maybe you can expand on that and describe them and what. What your favorite is.

[Bill Nighy]

Well, I. I used to have a John Brown when we were young mods. And he was. He used to work at a store called. That was. It was a high street chain all over the UK called Dun & Company. D U, double N no longer exists. And it's where your dad went or your grandfather went but young mods would go there to ironically dress like their dad. And we would wear pleated trousers, generous wide trousers with a turnup. You know, the kind of stuff that would make girls, you know, just, it was just like really, you know, know. And a John Smedley leisurewear polo with the three buttons done up to the top. None of that other, you know, undoing the top button. And we would, and he worked there, so he would get a discount. So he had a three piece suit for every day of the week. And I vowed that if I ever made any money, I was going to be like John Brown. And I have made some money and I. I've got more than seven suits. But it's not right yet. Yet it's not right. I want to open my. I love the idea of having. I do like the idea of having seven suits exactly the same. That's one idea. But I think it's just a, it's just an idea. I think in reality I would need them to be two different colors. There's only two colors. One is dark grayish and the other is navy, obviously, but. And they would be, but they would all be similarly constructed. And I love the idea of limited choice. And they're all being exquisite. I mean, nothing fancy. They don't have to be that expensive. They just have to be put together properly and they have to have a single vent. A single pleat can be double pleat, actually, these days. And pleats are back, by the way. I've waited about 15 years for that to happen. I've never stopped wearing pleated trousers because I can't bear flat front trousers. And they have a turn up or what the Americans call a cuff. And they would be a proper pair of trousers, not those kind of tight things, which make me very uneasy.

[Cho Manardi]

What advice would you give to someone who's struggling to find their personal style? You have such a great sense of what you like and what you don't like. Where do you start? If you're sort of like, I don't know where I fit. Fashion isn't my thing, I think, you.

[Bill Nighy]

Know, you just keep it simple. If you were, if you want to dress, dress casually. If you were to buy a pair of Levi 501s and a pair of DM shoes in a dark brown. Not the boots, don't be ridiculous. You know, you'd already. You're feeling, you know, you know, and if you had a jacket not unlike the one you're wearing, or a Harrington.

[Cho Manardi]

You know, I love a Harrington, you.

[Bill Nighy]

Know, the Harrington Which John Simon made famous. John Simon who? You. Do you know about John Simon?

[Cho Manardi]

No.

[Bill Nighy]

John Simon has a shop now run by his son Paul Simon. He is the Mod father. He is the godfather of mod. And he went in the 50s, he went to New York and he went to Brooks Brothers and he said, can we buy. Can I buy all your seconds? All the stuff you can't put in the store. And he brought it back to his shop then in Golders Green and he sold it to young working class house boys who would wear it on a Friday and a Saturday night. And the definition of mod, which Martin Freeman, who is a much more of a sincere Mod than I am, and Paul Weller for instance, they are the kind of third generation model. His definition is mod is anything I say it is, which is my. I borrowed that definition. But it's basically it was, it was a working class phenomenon and, and the other definition is clean living under difficult circumstances, which also makes me laugh. And it's about, you know, you do a job all week which might involve you getting dirty and then on a Friday night you are pristine. Yeah, but if you, if you had a jacket and a pair of jeans, I, you know, a dark jacket and a pair of 501s and you're already there and a button down shirt, you can't go wrong, you know, and you'll be fine on the plane in the airport. Wear jeans on the plane. Maybe I've taken to dressing up for the plane. Oh my gosh, I must.

[Cho Manardi]

I love that. That is so. You're going in the other direction of what everyone else is doing.

[Bill Nighy]

Exactly.

[Cho Manardi]

What is your uniform for the plane?

[Bill Nighy]

Well, it's just a suit and time.

[Cho Manardi]

You wear a suit and tie on the.

[Bill Nighy]

I love getting onto the pole and real shoes.

[Cho Manardi]

You don't wear trainers on the.

[Bill Nighy]

I have never worn trainers in my life. I wore trainers once on a comedy show because I had a, I had a, a girlfriend who was in the show. I had a girlfriend who was much younger than me and she tried to dress me young for a laugh, for comic purposes. And I, they put me in a huge pair of trainers. It was very, I felt very lonely and they, and, and it kind of added us something, something. And I looked very, very sad. I was then 50 something. But that's the only time trainers have ever touched my feet.

[Cho Manardi]

For our American listeners, trainers are sneakers. But yes, most people have worn them.

[Bill Nighy]

Or wear them, but no, I never got around to it. It's like a laptop I never saw what was it? You know, it's like enumerating your friends on Facebook. It's a generational thing. It's too late. I was too late for trainers and I'm happy about that. I love shoes. I mean I'm not.

[Cho Manardi]

What's your shoe of choice?

[Bill Nighy]

Well, I'm not a big. Actually I'm not a huge.

[Cho Manardi]

What shoes are you wearing now? They're great. Are they churches or something?

[Bill Nighy]

These are churches. Yeah. Well spotted. These are, you know, classic pair of black Oxford. I think they're called Oxford churches shoes. I go to Cheney's or Cheney's. I still don't know how to say it in German street. And they do a very good loafer and they also do a very good shoe, you know, lace up shoe. So really between those two shops, Cheney's or Cheney's. I must find out how to say it in German Street. They're, they're my go to at the moment.

[Cho Manardi]

I have a writer who's working on a. Who's tired of his sneakers and is writing on a story about what he should wear and he's just completely stuck because he's had this wardrobe of, of trainers his entire career. But yes, I'll direct him. I'll point him in that direction.

[Bill Nighy]

Yeah, no, you can't go wrong. You shouldn't economize on shoes really because you're going to end up buying. If you buy cheap shoes, you'll end up end up buying three pairs.

[Cho Manardi]

So just one good pair.

[Bill Nighy]

You might as well just get one good pair.

[Cho Manardi]

You know, what's your. What about glasses? You've got really great, you're wearing this really great olive frame.

[Bill Nighy]

These are my newish glasses. I used to wear very black, thicker, much thicker glasses than these. They all come from Cutler and Gross.

[Cho Manardi]

Oh, I love them.

[Bill Nighy]

C U T L E R and Gross. And I, and I, because I remember when I. Glasses became necessary and I went to the shop, I went to Cutler and Gross shop opposite Harrods and the girls in there put a big pair. I had no idea about glasses. I had no understanding of what you did, you know, what you wore, how you would choose because it's quite, it's a big deal what glasses you wear. And they stuck a big black pair of thick glasses on me and they said those glasses look like I wear glasses and I don't care. So somehow I ended up at the till and, and I wore those for a long time. And I wore them also because American listeners maybe not be familiar with Eric Morcom, but Eric Morcom used to wear them and he used to wear them like that famous comedian, a very famous, very beloved comedian. And I do it obviously for my grandchildren because I can see round corners. But that was, that was always gave me, gave me pleasure.

[Cho Manardi]

Well, tis the season for holiday movies and I feel like we can't talk about holiday movies without talking about love, actually, in which you play a washed up rock star, Billy Mack. I think people just, it's just one of those films that people love. And I can't believe it's like been 20 years since its first release because we still watch it again and again. What do you think it is about love actually that people love?

[Bill Nighy]

You know, it's like Richard Curtis, who wrote it and directed it, said, you know, that some films are often described as. The films that are described as searingly honest. You know, like words get married and honest is sometimes married to searing lies are always films about how bad things can get and how terrible human beings are. And he's always said, why can't. Why can't a film about how good things can be and how remarkable people can be, why can't that be searingly honest? Anyway, that's slightly not the answer to your question, but I do think it's because it does. You know, it's about love and people love to be in love. And it's, and it's about people, it's, you know, for the most part looking out for one another and behaving, you know, decently and, and it's fun, but it's funny and it's romantic. So, you know, I mean, it's properly funny. It's really properly romantic.

[Cho Manardi]

So we have a film related question from a listener. Okay, I'm trying to decide what movie to take my mom, dad and siblings for a family outing. How do you decide on a movie we'll all like? Should we go to a theater or stay in?

[Bill Nighy]

You should probably stay in and play charades. I love this. You know what I mean? And you could do all kinds of movies, but if you're going to go to the movies, well, I think, you know, there's lots of movies now, aren't there, that, that people that everyone can love. I've been in several of them. You know, the Pirates movies, You know, everyone from 9 to 90 likes the Pirates of the Caribbean.

[Cho Manardi]

So you famously don't watch the films you're in.

[Bill Nighy]

I've heard know, because it's very, because I find it very, very, very upsetting. And I tried it when I was young and I hated it. And I. And you Know, I don't have. I have probably some kind of overall dysmorphia. I don't like looking at myself, and I don't like the sound of myself, particularly. I don't. It's the acting that gets to me because I know too much. And I know all those little bits where I. I had bits of cowardice where I couldn't quite pull it off. And I did that default thing that I always do when I can't pull something off, and it's often unconscious, and so I don't really want to see it. People say you should watch in order to learn stuff. I'm never going to learn anything except do something else for a living. You know, it's quite extreme. I'm just not wired that way.

[Cho Manardi]

I mean, does that the same go for your animated roles? Because I feel like you've done.

[Bill Nighy]

No, I'm happy. I'm happy watching. I don't mind watching. Watching cartoons. And I. And I did also. I was a squid. And I, you know, in. I was a squid man in Pirates, the Gallery. And then I. I was. That was quite liberating because I could just. I could watch it because what. You're going to say you don't like my squid? Well, get over it, you know, So I did actually watched it. I watched it at Disneyland in Anaheim with everybody else. I sat there quite happily.

[Cho Manardi]

That sounds like fun.

[Bill Nighy]

That was actually very good fun because the creature. I had no idea what the creature was going to look like, you know, and when it. When. When I. When I finally saw the creature, I mean, they did such a good job when they presented it for the first time to the director, Gore Verbinski. He said, get your acceptance speech ready. And they won an Oscar.

[Cho Manardi]

Oh, my goodness.

[Bill Nighy]

They did.

[Sponsor Voice 4]

Yeah.

[Cho Manardi]

So great. Well, I have another question from a listener. This one comes from Rose, which is about family, Right. What do you get a dad who doesn't drink alcohol or care about tools for the holidays?

[Bill Nighy]

You buy him a book or. Cause I'm a father who doesn't drink alcohol and doesn't have a toolbox. What I always want is socks. But nobody really believes you, that that's all you want. But I love.

[Cho Manardi]

What are your socks of choice? Cause I'm sure you're particular about that. You have very nice fine gauge socks on. Rib socks on right now.

[Bill Nighy]

Thank you. You're right. You' paying attention. She's been looking at my socks. Pantherella is the word. And I. And I've recently been buying the very long Pantherellas, which If you pulled them all the way up, they would go to your knee. But I quite like them. I remember getting older, I was probably in my 50s and I did a job and I had long socks and the young women in the wardrobe department laughed at my socks. They didn't mean any harm by. They just my socks made them laugh because they were so long. And I thought, oh God, I've got to the point where young women laugh at my socks. You know what I mean? It was like, it was a moment. But I do like Pantherena and I like the long ones also. I have recently purchased some winter weight socks from Sunspell.

[Cho Manardi]

Oh, I love Sunspell.

[Bill Nighy]

Reaching out for sponsorship and they, they're in, in dark gray and dark blue and they. Because there's only two colors and they, they have other colors as well and they're very, very nice too.

[Cho Manardi]

Nice. I love Sunspell too. Any advice on how to not lose your mind over the holidays of your in laws?

[Bill Nighy]

Maybe try asking questions about their early life. You might, you know, you might find some surprises. You might open them up in a way that they haven't been opened up before. Just make, and I mean there is that thing of doing something nice for someone without them finding out. And that could be that you just, you know, you just investigate and you just, you know, you, you make a commitment to involve yourself in everything and hit the ground right running. But obviously that's not going to help. That's not the answer really.

[Cho Manardi]

I think that's such good advice.

[Bill Nighy]

Might help.

[Cho Manardi]

I had on a recent episode of your podcast that you once asked to enter an air.

[Bill Nighy]

Yeah.

[Cho Manardi]

Guitar World Championship.

[Bill Nighy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cho Manardi]

And, and, and the greatest air guitar feats you've seen is Bradley Cooper on Jimmy Fallon.

[Bill Nighy]

Bradley Cooper on Jimmy Fallon. Put the kettle on and put the kettle on. Have a cup of something or, or pour a glass of wine and Google Bradley Cooper Jimmy Fallon air guitar. And you will see one of, if not the finest achievement of any air guitar player in the history of air guitar. He. HE MIMICS precisely note for note Neil Young's guitar solo on down by the River. Wow. And you know that as a young man he had to have spoken hours in his bedroom, probably in Philadelphia or wherever, making sure he had every single note. And he does it, he does it also whilst wearing a very silly hat, which is a very great act of generosity and it's very, very amusing and very, very funny and very, and a brilliant achievement.

[Cho Manardi]

What's your most recent go to air.

[Bill Nighy]

Song Guitar My most recent I've always been a fan of Johnny Guitar Watson. Watson and Johnny Guitar was around when I was younger and I've always been a fan, but. But in the last couple of years, I've been really, really into Johnny Guitar Watson. And he has lots. And he's a great guitar player and he has lots of great guitar solos. Off the top of my head, I would choose Hook Me Up Baby. Hook Me Up Baby. Don't let's get this. That's the title. I started air guitaring. I don't know why. I. Oh, probably because I played a couple of rock idiots. But I. I used to air guitar guitar. I used to work. It became. I became. It became a habit. And I would air guitar when something bad happened and I'd air guitar when something, you know, good happened. And I would be doing. I was on a film with a young man who I. Who I really liked, called Ray and I. And Ray and I, we were in a prison movie. Raymond Waring. And we were in a prison movie. So we spent a lot. And we were cellmates, so we spent a lot of time together. And. And I. And I made him make a vow that whenever I started to air guitar, he would air guitar. Because when I was young, if you air guitar, you'd never get a girlfriend.

[Cho Manardi]

You know what I mean? Is this a thing?

[Bill Nighy]

Well, unless you were, I don't know, a Genesis fan or a yes fan or some sort of prog rock thing. Okay, but. Or a heavy metal thing or something. But I mean, it was sort of social death if you air guitar. But. But I waited until irony had taken its. Had. Had worked its way. And so I would, you know, everything. You would air guitar in a postmodern, ironic fashion, you know, because me doing Love actually coincided with. I can always forget the name of the Blue Steel.

[Cho Manardi]

Zoolander.

[Bill Nighy]

Zoolander. And he. He developed the. The Blue Steel. You know, it's the look you do a good bit of loose, which is very funny. And all the publicity. If you look at any of the publicity photographs for Love, actually, when I'm with my band of. Of very beautiful young women, you'll see me attempting Blue Steel. It just used to make me laugh so much. And I got into doing all kinds of, you know, rock, oh, my goodness stuff where you just. I had some hair then, but, you know, it just. It all made me laugh very, very much. And sticking my bum out.

[Cho Manardi]

The run through will be back in a moment.

[Avery Trufelman]

In a time when the United States military is being sent into American cities, when civilians and soldiers are Being pitted against each other. It's strange that we've never dressed more alike. We all wear performance clothes. We all wear outdoor clothes, whether or not we're outside civilians and soldiers. I'm Avery Trufelman. I make a podcast about clothing called articles of Interest.

[Sponsor Voice 4]

And.

[Avery Trufelman]

And in this new season, I trace the interwoven histories of the military and the outdoor industry and how they built each other. Find articles of interest wherever you get your podcasts. And the season is called gear.

[Sponsor Voice 4]

Sometimes people ask me which search terms I use. Whenever I'm on ebay, though, I search a lot of dead stock. That's a term that I throw in there a lot. Dead stock means that no one's ever worn it before, but it is like, an archival piece or it's a vintage piece. And so that's a great, great thing to find on ebay. There's a ton of dead stock, vintage. And it's just kind of, like, comforting to know that, like, you're the first person taking this, like, piece on its maiden voyage, even if it's 50 years old. Ebay offers this departure from the everyday that ends up feeling totally you.

[Cho Manardi]

Our next question, slightly different topic. I'm thinking about proposing to my girlfriend. How do I do it in an interesting and unique way?

[Bill Nighy]

I don't know how to do that. I've never proposed to anyone. I. I generally have, I think on my podcast. I think they weed all these questions out.

[Sponsor Voice 4]

Oh, geez.

[Bill Nighy]

So anything to do with relationships, either sexual or romantic or both? I'm not considered to be the guy that you go to. You know what I mean? Maybe try and wait till it's raining and you're both wearing good coats and you're under a tree, and then just bring out the ring very quietly and say. And hand it to her and just say, what do you think? And then. And then if she says anything other than yes, just say, I was just kidding. I was just kidding, or something. But, yeah, in the rain, I think. And then you could maybe have, you know, Quite romantic. Yeah, I always think the rain.

[Cho Manardi]

Guaranteed to have rain here.

[Bill Nighy]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Or you could take her on holiday to Ireland, and then it's bound to be raining. You could go down to the west coast of Ireland, stand on a rock, look out at the Atlantic and just say, what do you think? Baby? Always put the baby on the end. They like that, apparently.

[Cho Manardi]

So this next question comes from the Vogue app. It is. What is the best gift you've ever received?

[Bill Nighy]

My daughter once wrote out very painstakingly in her best handwriting, all her favorite poems and bits of prose throughout that year. And she made a book which was put together with ribbons, and I was given that. And I think that's, you know, I know it sounds cute, but it was cute and it was. That remains my top. Top present. Really. Cause it took so much time and trouble. And also because, you know, I love. I loved that she loved poetry and prose. Yeah, it was a very good present.

[Cho Manardi]

Yeah. So, Bill, you mentioned in our Agony uncle series that you don't own a lot of stuff, which brings us to another listener question, which is related. I just moved in with my partner for the first time, and I've realized that we both own way too many things for our small city apartment. What's your advice for getting rid of things that you don't need? Need?

[Bill Nighy]

You just remember it's going to be thrilling. The more you. The more you throw away, the more thrilling it's going to be. I love getting rid of stuff. I'm going to get rid of quite a lot of stuff. I mean, if anyone who walks in my flat would say, what stuff? It's like when I was young and I used to be in digs, I'd be in one room in a house or whatever or wherever I was, people would come in and say, oh, you. You've just moved in. And you go, no, I've been here for some time. But my advice is be absolutely ruthless and get it down to who has it said. I read it the other day. Somebody said that anything that's in my house has to either be beautiful or essential or both. And I think that's not a bad rule.

[Cho Manardi]

Yeah, that's a great rule.

[Bill Nighy]

You know, if you're not gonna. I mean, the other thing is, I don't keep books. I only keep books if they've been given to me and they have sentimental value or if they're hard back. I never keep paperb. Unless somebody's written in them or something. And I don't. And I give them to the Oxfam shop and. And that gets rid of a lot.

[Cho Manardi]

The Oxfam shop, for people who don't know, is like a secondhand thrift store.

[Bill Nighy]

Charity. Charity shop. But. And all those clothes that you're never going to wear, but you think maybe one day, but you're not going to wear them, get rid of them. It's just so nice to pair things down and get things down to the essential.

[Cho Manardi]

What are your essential things? What are the things that you can't live without?

[Bill Nighy]

Things I can't live without the kettle. I have to, you know, tea is a big thing. Well, essential things, you know. I have to have a jar of Marmite for American listeners.

[Cho Manardi]

Good luck explaining that one.

[Bill Nighy]

Good luck. Don't worry, you have to be born to it. Marmite is a spread. It's a vegan. No, I don't about vegan, but it's a vegetarian. I think think, well maybe it's not made of like. Well, nobody knows. In fact there was, in fact there's a, there's a. I smuggle Marmite all over the world.

[Cho Manardi]

Is that what goes in your suitcase, in your car, in your very neat carry on?

[Bill Nighy]

Yeah, yeah. And I only carry on. I never check a bag.

[Cho Manardi]

Oh really? You never check it?

[Bill Nighy]

I never check a bag, no.

[Cho Manardi]

That's why you need to wear the suit because it's not going.

[Bill Nighy]

Yeah, you can wear one suit and carry another. So I carry a suit bag and that's got trousers in it and stuff. And then I, and I, and I take a hold all with everything else in it and I haven't checked a bag for 20 years or something and.

[Cho Manardi]

I can't recall how long, but how long have you been away on a, on a car? How long? What, six?

[Bill Nighy]

I mean I wouldn't, I would never check. I just never going to check a bag.

[Cho Manardi]

Okay.

[Bill Nighy]

For the rest of my life. Tom Wilkinson, the late, great Tom Wilkinson who was an actor friend of mine who I loved and he, he and I were at the airport one time and he walked by with just a holder. We were going to Berlin for quite a long time and I said, you got no bag? He said, no, I never check it. And it was so cool.

[Cho Manardi]

Yeah, well, you've got, you've got a birthday coming coming up. December.

[Bill Nighy]

I have got a birthday. December 12th. Yeah. Same day as Frank Sinatra.

[Cho Manardi]

And, and how have, how have celebrating evolved over the years? And what would you have planned?

[Bill Nighy]

I don't ever have a plan for my birthday. I don't have a plan for this one. I shall be working in, in Canada and I don't have. And I don't tell anyone.

[Cho Manardi]

Blowing your cover.

[Bill Nighy]

Oh God, I hope they don't Google. Anyway, I don't have any plans. I never have plans for birthdays. I, I don't. That's not just because I'm near death. It's also because, you know, I used to do it, I never used to do it when I was young, but other. But in the end you do it for other people. And my daughter's away so she'll be. She's far, far away and on the other side of the world. So normally I would have dinner with. The only thing I would ever do would be have dinner with my daughter.

[Cho Manardi]

Okay, one final question. Any advice for actually sticking to New Year's resolutions?

[Bill Nighy]

I really don't know the answer to that. Apart from, you know, grow up, pull yourself together, you know, pull your socks up, have a tattoo, have it tattooed on your wrist or put it on a sign at the end of your bed and that will just irritate the. Out of you. I don't really have any. My. My New Year's resolution, for as long as I can remember has been shut the upper. Because I work out that any trouble I get into is. Not that I'm in any serious kind of trouble, at least I don't think I am, is the result of something I've said. Do you know what I mean? Just shut up. Let other people do the talking. But that lasts till about January 3rd.

[Cho Manardi]

I think we should say that you have. Can you tell us a bit about the upcoming project that you have? I think you've got a few, right?

[Bill Nighy]

I've got a few. A. I'm. I'm in. I'm in a series called Ride or Die.

[Cho Manardi]

Okay.

[Bill Nighy]

I like the title with Hannah Waddingham. And I am the boss of a female assassin agency. Oh, yeah, sounds really fun. And I wear a couple of good suits. And I'm in that I've just con. I've just finished something that I really do think might be worth your time, which is called California Avenue. And it's set in 1975 in a caravan park by the Grand Union Canal here in the uk. And I live in a caravan with Helena Bonham Carter. Oh, wow. And next door, Tom Burke, the great English actor lives. And then. And next door, on the other side, Erin Dougherty, who lots of people will have seen recently. She won an Emmy for Being in Adolescence, the big hit TV series. And she was also Princess Anne in the Crown. And they're our neighbors. And there are other people in the show, obviously. And it's written and directed by Hugo Blick, who I think I consider to be a genius. And it's funny, I hope. Otherwise I kill myself. And it's romantic and it's not like anything else. Somehow it's unexpected. It's kind of. Check it out. It's called California Avenue. It'll be out next year and no harm will come to you. Cool.

[Cho Manardi]

Thank you. And it was so lovely to have you on.

[Bill Nighy]

It's been very, very nice to talk to you.

[Cho Manardi]

Thank you so much for all your advice. Thank you so much.

[Bill Nighy]

My advice? Honestly, God help you all.

[Cho Manardi]

The Runt is produced by Chelsea Daniel and Alex Palmer. Stephanie Karaoke is our executive producer. It's engineered by Pran Bandy and Luke Mosley and mixed by Pran Bandy. Special thanks to Emily Elias. That's it for the show. See you later. Hi, it's Cho Minardi. If you're not on the Vogue app yet, what the hell are you doing? You can follow along with me and other editors as we talk about everything happening in fashion. Think you're already a fashion expert? Well, find out how your Runway IQ stacks up against the Vogue community with an all new Runway genius leaderboard. So download the Vogue app today and you'll never miss a moment. From PRX.