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Creating a Movement: How to Build a Brand That People Follow for Life | #Marketing - Ep. 09
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Russell Brunson
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I am so excited to be hanging out with you guys today. I am actually less than 24 hours. I think I'm like 18 hours away from jumping in a plane and flying to Las Vegas, Nevada for the last ever funnel hacking live. And I've been sitting here all day today, it's a Saturday, working on my slides, getting things done and thought I want to jump in and do one more podcast episode before I head out to kind of share two things that I've been thinking a lot about that I think will have a big impact on you. And both of them have to do with what are the things you have to do with. We have to create what you have to have if you want to build a movement. Okay, if you've read my book Expert Seekers, I talk a lot about building a movement. You know, not just having a product based business, but having a client based business, a customer based business where you are gathering your customers together, you're helping them, you are serving them and you're creating an actual movement. When we launched click funnels a decade ago now, that was the goal, right? The software is called click funnels. The people were called funnel hackers. And the movement, right, is what we created to take all these funnel hackers and help them to grow their businesses, to change their lives. And that was kind of the initial vision, the initial goal, what we were doing here inside. And so as I was thinking about this with again, this is the last ever funnel hacking live. We're about to do our last big event we have more tickets sold for this one than any funnel hacking live in the past. It's going to be insane. It's also the last one, which I'm not sure if I'm going to emotionally be able to handle that. It's going to be kind of crazy, but that's what's happening. And so we are literally flying out to go to do that. So I was thinking I was preparing and like this event, I have actually have 11 presentations I'm doing. So I'm working on presentations and my last one is like, what's next? Like, what's happening? Because everyone keeps asking, why would you cancel this event? You're the most successful event in the industry. Why would you just turn it off? And so I'm going to talk about that, but I wanted to step back because the things, I don't know, it's just been fun. Like a lot of my presentations, I'm going back in time and thinking through the different. The last decade, what we did and why we did it and the reasons and the ups and the downs and the pros and the cons. The things I did that were smart and the moronic things I did, thinking I was smart, finding out later I really wasn't. But there are two core things. They had such a huge impact on this, on this business, on creating a movement instead of just selling a product that I wanted to share with you guys today. So, and partially the reason why I'm sharing this with you guys is because I don't know. Yes, business is great. Making money is great. But the reality is like, I, and you guys have heard me say this before, I say it a lot, especially when I'm on stage. But I believe business is a calling. I believe that each of you guys have been called by God to serve a group of people, right? It's contribution. Like there's a time in your life you go through growth, right? And you guys know when you go through growth, there's the pain of that, right? There's. There's positive pain. Like I think about going to the gym, you lift weights, you're sore, next day. There's positive stuff like that, right? It's like there's the positiveness of you're building a business and it's hard and you're tired, stuff like that. There's also a lot of negative things, right? The problems, the issues, the headaches, the people stabbing you in the back, the stuff that's painful, right? But through that process, you've been growing, right? And so that's the first half of business, there's the growth side, right? And you went through those problems, those issues, and the reason why you went through them, right, is because you learned something. You learned now how to serve someone who's just like you. I think about business all the time. I talk about how business is contribution, right? You have growth and then you contribute, right? And contributions now going back to the people who are just like you five years ago before you got started, right? You're taking all the lessons. You learned both the positive, right, the pain that you got going to the gym, like the positive pain, but also the negative pain and the trials. And like, the issues you went through and you learned through all that process, you came out the other side unscathed. Maybe you're scathed a little bit, but you came out the other side as a better person, right? You grew. And now your business is about contribution. Go back and helping those people. And those are the people I'm most passionate about serving, is the people, the entrepreneurs who are doing that. Right, who are in that phase of the business right now. And so that's really what I want to talk about during this podcast, is like, not like, here's how to start a business, but like, if you actually want to build a movement of people where you're going to find these people, God's called you to help, right? You're going to gather those people together again. These people are people who are just like you five years ago. You're going to gather them together and you're gonna change their life. How do we actually do that? Okay, There's a lot of ways to do it. There's a lot of things. But there are two core ones that I've been thinking about a lot today that I wanted to share with you. And so I'm just gonna jump right into them. So the very first one, and this is interesting, I remember I have my category Kingdoms group, which is like $150,000 a year, and we had some guys coming in and they were asking specifically about, like, should we. Should I write a book? Should we not write a book? Da, da, da. And I remember I shared something just kind of as an afterthought. I wasn't thinking about it. And then like a month later, I saw it on their podcast, their Instagram channel, like that. It was like one of those big, like, mic drop moments for him. And I was like, oh, it kind of is. And so they asked me, should we write a book? When I told them, I said, if you think about it, Every great mass movement throughout time and history always started with a book. Okay, Think about this. I think about at least the major religions that I know about, right? Think about Christianity. It led with the book, the Bible. Boom. Right? Think about the. Again, I'm Mormon, so the Mormon faith, right? It started with a book, the Book of Mormon. You think about, you know, Christian, Islam, like every major mass. It started with the book, right? When I launched the click funnels business, we had clickfunnels, we had the software, and luckily at the same time I was writing a book with my thoughts, my ideas about how to build funnels. And boom. On the backside of launching clickfunnels, out came dotcom secrets. This was the book that started the movement, right? I remember we launched clickfunnels. I think it was like September we launched, we did an initial launch during the summertime, let a group of people in and close it down. And then in September we did the official launch. We people started coming in. It was crazy. People came in and they used the software. Didn't use, like it didn't stick. Like we couldn't get people to stick, couldn't get people to sign up. It was tough, right? And this is the time where I'm thinking about creating a movement versus just selling software. In fact, I had this really cool experience. Some of you guys know David Fry. He's one of my friends, mentors and David was in a network marketing company with me at the time. There's a company called Send Out Cards. Some of you guys may remember Send Out Cards. But it was in this company and I had never, I promoted it, but I'd never actually, like, I'd never actually been to an event. Dave's like, you have to come to me, you have to see what this is like. And so I come to this event, it's in Salt Lake City and it's a three or four day event. I'm sitting there and you know, I'm there. I'm used to going to marketing events. I'm there with a pad of paper, you know, Dan Kennedy event. So I'm there with pad of paper, ready to take notes. I'm sitting there the first day and like first people get up on stage, they're telling their story and then they're crying. And then next people get on stage, they're telling their story, they're crying and then someone gets up and they get an award and then someone else gets an award. And I'm like, what is happening? I'm like so confused. Like day number one, no Notes, day two, day three. And by the like day three or day four, I remember Dave leaned over me, he's like, do you see what's happening? I was like, no, I have no idea what's happening right now. And he goes, they didn't create a software company, they created a movement. And it was like the ah, boom. So for me, right, fast forward a year later, I've got this new software company called Click Funnels and I'm trying to figure out how to sell as a SaaS company. I'm looking at what are all the big SaaS doing? I'm trying to model them, right? So we're Funnel hacking these SaaS companies and we're struggling. Nothing's working, nothing's converting, it's too expensive to acquire leads. Everything was just not working. And then all of a sudden that light bulb hit my head from David Fry. Like, they don't have a software company, which it was sent out cards is a software company. Log in and you type thing, you click send. It sends a card to somebody. Software, right? It's like they don't have a software company. They built a movement. And I started thinking, oh, that's the difference. How do I build a movement, right? And luckily again at time, I'd been writing this book for a decade. This was like for me, you know, the decade prior to clickfunnels. I was, I was learning these principles, I was doing them. I was having so much fun building funnels and trying these things out. And I was going to these events and teaching and talking about it and sharing what was happening. And so I remember I started like I always wanted to write a book. In fact, I remember it was, man, it was almost 10 years. It was like 10 years before I ever wrote dotcom Secrets. I was in an event and it was Armor Mortens event. And I remember they kept talking about writing your own book, writing your book. And then I remember David Hancock, who owns Borg and James Publishing, he was there and he was like, russell, you should write a book. I was like, I should write a book. So I paid him to help me to write a book back way back then. And then I remember, see, I met Brendon Bouchard the very first time. Brendon was kind of new in the industry just like I was. And he had just written this book called Life's Golden Ticket. And on the front of the book there's like this really cool, what's it called, like a circus tent on it. And he told me, he's like, yeah, I sold the book. And people started reading. And then I do these events, and they're in circus tents and explain the whole thing. I'm like, this is so cool. I gotta have a book. And so that was my thought. So for 10 years, I thought about a book, kept thinking about it, kept changing the title and changing it back and forth. But it took me a decade to finally sit down and like, okay, I'm gonna write this book. So I sat down and finally started writing it. I took a decade of my life. All these things I've been learning and studying and practicing and trying. All the funnels and the front end, the back end and copywriting, like, just everything. And I put it into this book, right? And this was not like a fast little thing. This was a labor of love. Like, I spent man, two years or so researching, writing, putting it together, rewriting it, all this stuff to make the Dotcom Secrets book become a thing, right? And so again, clickfunnels launches in September. I think the dotcom secrets book launch was in February or March. Really, within the first four or five months, boom, we launched this book, and this book created the movement. People got it right, and it's the doctrine or the dogma or whatever you want to call it, right? So we got the book. They read it, and they're like, oh, my gosh, now I understand what Russell's trying to tell me, because I read it inside of a book. The book gives them again, the initial. If you think about this from a religious movement, it's the doctrine, right? Here's the doctrine of, like, the belief system that you and your following your movement has, right? Something they can read, they can talk about, they can get behind, which is another reason why it's very important to write a good book and not a crappy book. So I'll leave that for. I'll go on a rant there here in a few seconds. But this book became that. So we launched out in the world. People started reading it. We sold over 100,000 copies. And it became, like, the foundation for this movement, People to read it, understand it. And now they understood what we did, what we thought about what we were teaching. And all of a sudden, like, that was the first foundation point, right? And so the first of the two things I want to share with you, number one, is like, if you want to create a movement, you've got to write a book. The book is like, again, the doctrine or the dogma or the principles or whatever you want to call it for your people, for your movement, for your following. For the people you are bringing into the world to be able to help them, they have something to look back to is like, this is like what the truth is. This is what the foundational core principles are. Hey, it's Russell Brunson and I have a confession to make. When I first started in B2B marketing, I thought I needed to be everywhere at once. Every platform, every ad type. But guess what? That's not where the magic happens. The magic happens where the decision makers are. And that is LinkedIn. LinkedIn ads let you target who you want. CEOs, C suite executives, and 130 million professionals ready to take action. These aren't random clicks. 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So if you want to cancel all your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money, then go to RocketMoney.com Russell today, that's RocketMoney.com Russell R u s s e l l that's RocketMoney.com Russell now I'm gonna go down the rant about writing a good book. I want you to understand, like, why I'm not a big fan of, like, hey, how to write a book on a weekend or have AI write your book or whatever. In fact, I'm mildly obsessed with books. You probably noticed this just my background. If you watch the videos, there's dozen or so books. But in the last three years, I've bought over 18,000 books, most of them first editions, rare books. Like, I'm obsessed with books because I know what it takes to wr really good book, right? You can never. I don't know, maybe someday AI will get smarter than all of us. But, like, for me to write.com secrets, expert seekers, or traffic seekers, like, the writing of the book was the most painful thing I'd ever gone through. It gets so painful to write a book. But by going through the process of writing and thinking and the putting things together, all these insane. Like, the process of writing the book is where all these insights, these ideas come. Like, they all start. I don't know how to explain it other than when they first start writing a book, there's always, like, these siloed ideas. And you start writing a book, you have to put them together. And when you do it, you start seeing these connections, interactions that never were there before. That's why when people are like, oh, I'm gonna have AI write my book. I'm Speak on stage. And then someone will transcribe and turn to a book or whatever. It's like you're missing or even a ghostwriter. Because like the magic of my books came for me like at 2 in the morning, like wrestling between two or three different concepts. And all of a sudden it's like, oh, this thing appears and you're like, there's the answer. And all of a makes the book make sense, right? It's like you have to earn a book, you have to like birth it. And the reason why it's so important, because if somebody in your movement gets your book and your book sucks, okay? It will destroy everything quickly. In fact, I'm not gonna say the person's name. A lot of you guys know who he is or who this person I should say. I said he now cut it in half. But when I first got in this world, this person wrote a book and they kept talking about it and I was like, this is so cool. And like that was the person, okay? That's the person I'm plugging into. This is my guru. And they wrote this book, they did a big product launch around it, became an Amazon best seller, all sorts of stuff forever. I buy the book, I get in the mail and I'm so excited to read this book. Like I am pumped, I'm on fire. You have no idea, like how much I anxiously waited for this book. So I pre ordered it while they're waiting for the pre launch, right? And then they shipped it and the book shows up. I remember getting it, I was like, I'm so excited to read it. And I blocked out time. I was sitting, I was going to read it, I was going to study, I was going to devour. I'm going to like understand what's in this author's brain and like it'll be in my brain, right? It's like Tony Robbins calls it a decade and a day. Like a book gives you the ability to compress a decade of an author's life into a day. And you can just read it. So I get the book, I sit down, I still have it on my shelf. I know exactly which one it is. And I start reading the book. And it was horrible. It was like he had taken some teleseminars. He had done transcribed them, threw in a book. There were typos, there were misspellings. It didn't go deep. There was no. It was just like surface level fluff. And I remember I read that and I lost all respect for the person. I stopped following, stopped listening. To him. And I was just like, that's it. You don't want that happening so you can get your book, right? You need to give them the insights, the stories. That's how you create a really, really good book. If you do that, that's one of the core things about creating a movement, right? So step number one, like, if you want to really do this, like, what are the foundational thoughts, beliefs, principles, things that you have that you believe in, you can take and actually put into a book and create something that's really good again, like dotcom secrets. I'm proud of this book. I bled for this book. Like, it was so hard. Okay? For me, it takes me about two years to write a book on average. That's how much time and effort, energy I put into it. Obviously, I'm not. In fact, it's funny. My first two books, I went with kind of a smaller publisher, and my third book, I went to Hay House, which is a bigger publisher. And I remember we did the contract negotiations. I wasn't paying much attention. Sign a thing, and all of a sudden, like, a week later in the mail, I get a check for a whole bunch of money. And I was like, what is this for? So I messaged him, like, hey, I got a check. I've sold books yet. Like, what's this for? Because I'm used. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm used to, like, I eat what I kill, right? Like, I go kill something, then I get fed from it. Like, for me to get money before I'd written the thing, it was so confusing. And they're like, oh, that's your. That's your forward or your advance. I'm like, what? Like, well, what? Like, what if I don't sell any books? How's this work? I need to pay it back. I was all stressed out. They said, no. Typically, when you sign a book deal, the publishing house gives you enough money you can live for the year so you don't have to work so you can actually write the book. And I was like, oh, that's how it works. Because for me, I'm working eight hours a day running click funnels. And then I'm like five or six, seven hours a day as a dad and a father. And then I got like two hours a night in the morning where I am writing my actual book, right? I was like, I didn't know that's how it worked. Anyway, I probably should have done that because I would have gotten the books done a lot faster. But for me, it's a Longer process. I take a lot of time. But it's like again, I'm trying to figure out those insights. Like I had someone recently who wanted to help co author a book with me and I started down the path and I was just like, this can't work. Because like the writing of the book is how I discovered these principles. By me being willing to go into the pages and into the work and do the stuff. That's where I believe. God. I started implanting ideas and thoughts into my head that made it actually become something amazing. Had I just tried to go the easy way, the cheap way, and had AI or ghostwriter or somebody do it, it wouldn't have been the same. Okay, so that's the very, very first thing. Alright. Okay, now we're sitting here, you guys just, you guys know before I jump into number two, I got this cool new setup in my office. In fact, I'm going to show you. I'm on a gimbal, I got two couple cameras here. So check this out. The way I do my work, I've got three different monitors here. I just have to have a lot of monitor space to work. And then right here I have my camera. And if you, I don't know if you can see it or not. It's going to be kind of weird here because the gimbal is going to want to see my face actually if I flip this around. So I got a teleprompter right here, which is really, really cool. And I can put my notes here if I'm doing a zoom call. You know, you look, you do zoom with someone and you're like, you're looking, you're looking down, you're trying to look at them because you're looking at their eyeballs. Now I can pull up into this thing right here and then I could actually like I can talk to the person, have eye to eye contact. Anyway, I'm really excited. And the other cool thing is I have a couple ads that I wrote for our stuff and I covered in the past because I looking down in the ad didn't work on the video. But guess what? I got a teleprompter now. So I'm going to read two ads just for my own products because I thought it'd be awesome. So the very first one is for a company you may have heard of called Click Funnels. Now obviously if you want to sell stuff online, you're going to need a good funnel. But if you want a great funnel, then you're going to need to use Click Funnels. Click Funnels is the number one funnel builder in the world, helping more first time entrepreneurs to leave their 9 to 5 and to launch their dream than any other company in the world. Click Funnels was built for the dreamers and the doers. And you can grab a 14 day free trial by clicking on the link in the description or going to ClickFunnels.com podcast right now. ClickFunnels. Because you're one funnel away from changing the world. How was that? My first ad reached myself. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I know on the podcast I've been doing, we started selling ads over on the podcast I've been doing reads for other companies. I thought this is way more fun to read for my own. Okay, number two, so number one, every mass movement of all time led with a book. Sit down, figure out your doctrines for your people. Write a book like it'll change you. It'll change things for you more than anything else you can do. In fact, if you look at this, I've been in this business now for like 23, 24 years. I've launched so many courses, so many events, so many masterminds, so many things. And it's crazy because the only thing, people come up to me later on and say, hey, Russell, you changed my life. Your book changed my life. That's the word. It's always, your book changed my life. It's never that event, it's never that course. It's never the. Like the book is the thing. It's the thing that lasts beyond the life of the author. If you want legacy, if you want to live forever through your words, the book is the thing that actually does that. Okay? Like that's how important it is. That's why I'm obsessed with it. In fact, I remember, you know, back in the day, I do this product launches, see a big spike in sales and it dropped. Another launch, another launch. And we were doing launches multiple times a year. That's how I made our money. We launched clickfunnels, started getting a recurring revenue. It was crazy because it went like this really small and it got bigger, bigger, bigger to the point where every single day I check my Stripe app and it's half a million dollars is there every morning before I wake up and just like, this is insane. Okay, what's happening? And so then we do these launches. I do a launch of a course. Like, you see this little blip? Like it barely registers on the thing. I'm like, what? Right? And I would launch a book, little bloop Blip. And what I found is that almost anything I launched didn't actually have any long term impact. There's no long term impact sales. The impact was so minuscule, it didn't actually matter in the grand scheme of things. And the only thing that lasted beyond the launch was the book. The only thing that lasts beyond the life of the author is the book, right? Think about this Napoleon Hill. Why do we know him? He wrote books that are still around. I think about people I know who run huge mega events. When they die and those events disappear, so does the legacy. It goes away, right? Like the book is the only thing that outlives the author. So write a book. Alright? That's number one. Number two. Now second thing is if you want to create a movement and be like the leader in your industry, you have got to basically plant a flag in the middle and say, this is the industry event, we are the one. Okay? Funnel hacking live 10 years ago. Okay. It was crazy. If you look at the timeline of events, right? Way back in the day, there were two events. There was Internet marketing event, Armor Morton's big seminar and there's Dan Kennedy's Info Summit and super conference, right? And those were the two big things happening in the marketing world, right? Internet version and then the direct selling version. Then eventually Yonek Silver came out with the Underground. That became the second one. So there were two big Internet marketing seminars and then the two direct response. So those are the events like you had to be at every single year, right? Fast forward 2008, 2009. Economy crashes, events dry up, everyone cancels their events. No events for four or five years. Then they come back. First event happens. Tnc. Ryan Dice Perry Belcher launched tnc. Amazing event. It used to be you go to TNC and it was just Ryan and Perry teaching. I love both those guys. I think I could listen to Perry tell stories for days. Like he's my favorite storyteller ever. And so we'd go to the event because I want to hear Ryan and Perry. Ryan and Perry. And then as it started getting bigger, the event got bigger. They started bringing more speakers and more speakers and Ryan and Perry got less and less and less and eventually got to the point where they had like 90 speakers. They had all these different breakout rooms. And if you go to the event, you might hear Perry talk once and Ryan talk once. And that was it. And that's when I stopped going to tnc. And I remember that my feeling as a consumer, I was just like, this is great. But like I came for those guys. And they're no longer speaking. There's a whole bunch of people. And I watched over the years, that event got smaller and ours started getting bigger. So when we launched ours Funnel Hacking Live, there was tnc and they were the biggest. Like, I get the time they'd get like 3,000 people in the event. I'm like, how do I compete with that? I'm like, well, we're going to, because I want to create my own version. So I put the flag in. Like, I'm going to create the industry event. And it became Funnel Hacking Live. Okay. We launched it did the very first one, we had 600 people at it, right? Second one, we had 1200. And it kept growing and growing and growing over time. And eventually what was cool is that the event gave us the ability where our people, not all of our people, but it's the bottom of the funnel, right? The bottom of the funnel are the people who are the most hardcore, that are the craziest, they're the most fun. Like, those are the people that came to the event. So also you get the energy of, like, who are the people that care the most? And they show up, say, oh, these are our people. And they're just like me. They're obsessed with the stuff. They're like the high energy. They're crazy. And that's how we built Funnel Hacking Live, like our dream. People at the bottom of Funnel came to the event, like, the best people. And what happened is, like, when they're there, it builds culture, it builds excitement, and those will go out to the rest of the world. And they take that energy, they resonate out to the rest of the world, right? So Even though only 4 or 5,000 people were able to come to Funnel Hacking Live at a time, the energy of that, when it goes back out, just like ripple effects into the industry, right? So it's such a powerful thing. It brings people together, gives them time to network, to hang out. It gives you the ability to, like, speak directly to the people and I tell them what you're doing. Well, the future is like, what's happening, right? 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Like have our members come and talk and share their stories. And then they gave away awards. Like we need to have awards. Like this is how you create a movement, right? And so we build an event that wasn't just like every other event. Every other event at time, there were a couple inversions. It used to be you'd have multi speaker, every single speaker, get online, get on and they would each everyone have a chance to sell. And they call them pitch fest sometimes that was like how events were back in the day, way back in the day. And then after the crash and it happened again, it was different. And I remember tnc, they came in and they were on the whole event and they might pitch one thing. Sometimes they didn't pitch anything. They sold a lot more like sponsors and booths and stuff like that. And for us, I was like, I don't really want to be in the sponsor booth game. I want to be all people in the room and I want to be able to sell like coaching the next thing, right? So it gave us the ability to sell our coaching program. It gave us ability to highlight students and testimonials and find out who our people were so we could go find those people and then later go to their homes and film them telling their stories and all sorts of stuff, right? Like, it just became the thing, like having the industry event. And so for you, if you really want to create a movement after you've written your book, the next phase, like, you need to create an event. You need one putting the, like, planning the flag. And, like, this is the thing. This is my event. This is where people in our industry go. Even if, like, you have no right of saying that initially, right? Like, we didn't. We have TNC have three to 5,000 people at these events. We get, you know, first one, 600, right? They were way bigger than us. And we kept trying to get bigger and trying to get bigger. And eventually we got spot where we were similar. Like, we were. We were three, four thousand people there. Three or four thousand people. And then Covid hit, right? Everything collapses, shrinks down. And then right after Covid, we both launch our events Weeks. We didn't realize this when we launched it, but it just happened. Like, theirs was week number one, ours, week number two. I was like, oh, man. And like, now we're competing. Now people got to pick, like, we're going this one or this one, right? And so they do their event. So I'm home. Just. It's just like this week, I'm here doing slides during the event, and TNC is happening. And so. But we sent much of our team down there to go check it out. And it's crazy. You look in the ballroom, there's. It was set for like 3,000 people. And during the opening keynote, there are about 30, maybe 50 people in there, maybe 100 people. My team sent me a video. So, like, this place is empty. And I was like, oh, crap, we're in Covid. People are not going to come to events. Like, we just saw that. I was so scared. And for us, like, we spent so much money. It could have. It could have. It could have been really, really bad for us if people didn't show up. Because there's a lot of money that goes into events. There's a lot of things that you guarantee. The hotel, like a room block, how many rooms you get. Like, it can be a really expensive learning lesson anyway, but because, like, the people that came to the bottom of our funnel, they are the crazy ones, the 1% crazy. The funnel hackers. Like, the most insane people, right? One week later, we go to ours, and it was packed from back to front, wall to wall, it is packed, and it was crazy. And I remember. I can't remember if it was that funnel hacking live or the next one. Might have been the next one. But Perry Belcher spoke at it. And then Perry messaged me on messenger afterwards, and he's like, Congratulations, man, you're event one. And I was like, oh, I knew we were competing. I didn't know he knew we were competing, but he said that. And I was like, like, for me, I was just like, we became the industry event and what, how do we do that? Right? It's like coming back and it wasn't just like, let's make a convention and booths and speakers, like, let's create a movement, right? Like, let's look at how network marketing, let's look at other ways. How do we, how do we bring those things in to make something that's really truly special and different? And so that's what we, that's what we do with Funnel Hacking Live. And now we're 10 years into it. This is our 10th. Technically it's our 11th one because we did a virtual one six months ago. So technically it's our 11th to start FHL 10, the Last Dance. And it's weird because people have asked me, why would you stop this? Like, you're the industry manager, the biggest one. Like, why would you stop this? It's weird because, like, we're stopping ours. And our teensy got canceled this year. They shut it down. Grant Cardone's got a huge event. This is his last year. It's kind of weird, like all of us are kind of ending these things. And I think a couple reasons, number one is like, you know, if you're going to do an industry event, like, it's a lot of work for us, it's a 10 month cycle. So we do the event, we have two months just like, oh. And it's like, okay, back at it. Like, we're promote the next one, sell the tickets, get the speakers, line it up. Like it's such a. It's a lot. And we've been doing it for a decade. And honestly, I'm tired. Number two is I'm working on something else by doing the event we did when we first launched Funnel Hacking Live, it was very unique. It was very different. People came like, this is not like normal events. This is not like anything else they've ever experienced. Even the way we captured the way that we did our videos, like, everything was different and it was really special. And then over time, people started modeling us and Funnel Hacking us and copying us, right? And now it's like 10 years later looking like most events look like Funnel Hacking Live. People understand, like we figured out a formula, they're modeling it and it's amazing. But like, this is the reality is I'm not done doing events by any stretch of the imagination, I want to do something different. I wanted something better. But I needed some time to reset. With funnel like lives, it's hard because we have a framework and things people expect, right? So it's like every year it's like that. A little bigger, a little bigger, a little bit bigger. Right? And for me to do what I want to do in the near future to create the new industry event, it has to be different. And I had to reset. I couldn't just be FHL 11 now because it's a little different. Like it need to be a huge reset. I needed space and time to like rethink through it and how to make something amazing. So that's the reason why we're stopping funnel hacking live. But it's still part of the thing, right? Part of the movement, writing a book, creating an event. And that is how you build a movement. That's how we built clickfunnels. We get spot now where we're a software company who's literally taking on $0 in funding. We're the last of our competitors to not take on money. All the rest sold out. Right? We're the last ones who are sticking to the bootstrap story. And it's been amazing, right? We passed a billion dollars in sales. 3 comma 3 comma Club Award. Let's go. By the way we did design it. I'm going to show you guys that funnel hacking live because I want all you guys that make that a goal to go up to 3 comma club award. But like we did it because of these things, right? Obviously funnels are key, but we did with the front end book. With a virtual or not virtual, with a live event, those, the two core things actually create a movement. So that's what I want to share with you guys today. I hope that it helps keep the wheels in your head spinning. Every mass movement was built initially with the book, right? All of them throughout time, throughout history. Right. And then if you want to create this movement, you got to become like put your flag in the ground. Like I'm going to become the industry event. This is where people come together. This is the spot. When you do those two things, that's how you start finding your people and bringing them together. Now they've got the doctrine of the movement you are creating. They've got the people together again. Give them a name, Funnel, hackers, whatever you want to call your people, call your people and then give them identity. Have them come together and then you can serve them. And it's Just a. It's. It's a fun, powerful, exciting thing. So I hope you guys enjoyed the episode. Hope you learned a lot. I got one more. Can I read one more ad? Because I'm here. This will be a fun one for me as well. This is for our selling online event, which is insane. 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Like, I don't like having here in the other ads, I'm like, I know it's okay, but these are cool companies with cool products, and they're willing to host, to promote, to dump ad money into this. And what's cool for us, we take all the ad money. We use it to drive more people back to the podcast. So continue to grow. So if you want to help me in the process, what I would love to do is tell people about new podcasts, either on YouTube channel or on the podcast, or both. Share with other people. That's how you can help. Serve me selfishly back for any of the stuff I'm giving to you guys. And that way more people start listening to podcasts again. All the money makers and sponsors goes 100% back into just promoting the podcast, getting more people on here so I can keep serving you guys. Because for me, like, in my life right now, everything's about impact. And so for me, it's like, if I'm gonna spend an hour a day doing a podcast like this, like, what's the return on investment? Like, what does it look like? And for me, it's like, how many listeners and so as that number is growing and growing and growing, I'm like, okay, I'm putting more time, more effort, more energy into it. The podcast is huge right now. It's growing very quickly, which is awesome. YouTube channel is kind of more new. I've been doing YouTube stuff for a long time. I've tried a lot of formats, and I was like, I'm really enjoying this. So if you're listening, watching on YouTube, I know it's a different format I was doing in the past, and it's a little different from YouTube. But my goal is to keep this going for a while and see if I can get you guys on YouTube converted, like, enjoying it and sharing it. Because if I can do that, then it's pretty cool. So that's it. You guys, I appreciate you. Thank you for hanging out with me for this episode. If you liked it again, let me know in the comments. Share with a friend. I appreciate you guys. And for those of you who will be at Funnel Hacking Live by the time this is live, FHL will probably be done. But I'm excited to hang out with you guys and serve you guys one last time for the biggest event in the world and just know that I'm there. And again, it's the last of the Funnel Hacking lives. But it's not the end of an era. It is the beginning of something amazing that will be coming very, very soon. I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for listening and we'll talk to you all soon. Bye.