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Actor Tom Pelphrey Talks ‘Task’, Being a Giants Fan and Throwing Out a First Pitch. Plus Some 'TNF', Texans, and Cam Ward Thoughts.
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Foreign on today's episode. This is what we're doing. We've got a few NFL topics that we want to get to recapping Thursday Night Football, but specifically Marv's tough night, some Tyler numbers that are alarming, Darnold's carryover from Minnesota. So it's not all Thursday night. It's not gonna be 20 minutes of that. That game doesn't deserve that kind of recognition. Recap. But also just a few other things. Houston I'm not going to say we have a problem. They're 0 and 3. Is there anything to salvage from the start considering they've been in these games historic note on their bad start talking about CJ Stroud in the offense a little bit and I want to talk about Shador Sanders comments about being ready and being better than other quarterbacks right now in the league and why there's a perfect example of why that may not actually be happening. So so we've got that and we love the show Task on hbo. Brad Inglesby created it. We had him on the Star. He plays Robbie. With Ruffalo, it is Tom Pelfrey. So he's going to hang out with us for a little while, talk about his career and what the hell's going on with the Giants. Because imagine being a Giants fan and you're like, we're already onto the other quarterback and Daniel Jones is the mvp. The Daniel Jones part of it just makes the current reality that's in your zip code that much worse every time we have an extended life Advice this is the Ryan Rosillo podcast presented by FanDuel, and the NFL is officially back. So if you're going to be in it, be in it with FanDuel. They've got the goods. Futures, live betting, SGPs, that same game parlays your way, bets, all of it. The app's clean, it's fast, and yeah, when you win, you get paid instantly, which is nice because Sunday patience doesn't exist. So get your bets in, build something bold and make every game feel bigger. Download the FanDuel app or head to FanDuel.com Ryan R Y E N to get started. The ringer is committed to responsible gaming. 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What a disastrous start means for a quarterback on Sunday, Monday, and even Thursday Night Football doesn't happen with a receiver a lot. But Harrison Jr. Was having one of those games. The first interception, I think that's on Murray too. High safety. Look, I don't think you're supposed to throw it. So even though Harrison does stop running his route from the right side and cutting it across the middle of the field, I still don't think it's a great throw by Murray. Even though this is a lot of fun interception analysis after the fact. Like, how many different theories could we come up with? Like, I don't know, might have just been a bad throw, man, it might have been the simplest explanation for all this kind of stuff. The second interception is 100% on Harrison. That's not debated by anybody. The ball is bobbled and then it's a turnover. And you're watching this guy who was one of the cleanest prospects not just at receiver, but in the draft. Although I do remember, and I'm not taking any credit for this, as we get closer to the draft, how often McShay was like, man, I'm not like, neighbors is not nasty. But still, we saw what Harrison Jr. Was the most dominant receipt. I mean, it feels like you're not giving him enough credit. One of the most dominant players in college football at the time that he played. And so was there like, ooh, is he a little slow out of his brakes? Like you're trying to find anything for somebody again who was such a clean prospect that it's like, is there anything to kind of ding him for a little bit? And then you're watching last night going, where is this guy? I started watching him block just because I wanted to see how bad all of it was. There's plenty of times I don't care who you are as a receiver, if the run plays to the other side, you get out of your, you know, they snap the ball, you kind of get up, put your hands on the corner. I think there's kind of a gentleman's agreement there of like, hey, if the plays to the other side, let's not kill each other here for all these plays that have nothing to do with us. So those are the ones that I would give them a pass. And we know that some receivers just aren't interested. Not all of these guys are built like Heinz Ward, where I would think it would be fun, be like, hey, I want to see if I can manhandle this other person. If I was big, it'd be great. And if I were small, I'd be like, let me see if I can surprise this guy. And again, you're going up against corners most of the time, so somebody Harrison Jr. Size, you should think you'd be excited to try to just impose your will on the opponent and wear them down when they would run plays to his side. He wasn't even blocking, which then motivated me to send McShay a text. And I'm thinking, hey, was he like an uninterested, like, block? Like, what was he? He's like, he wasn't as good as some of the other guys at Ohio State. That took some real pride in it, but it wasn't bad and it certainly wasn't this. And that's the part where you're going, okay, well, is it routes? Because there's the miscommunication on that route to the right side where he just keeps going. Kyler throws it into the dirt. And clearly, like, this many years in for Kyler, I imagine that mistakes 100% on Harrison Jr. So you're seeing all this happen and everybody's talking about it, and then Herb Street's kind of hinting at it. And you would think Herb street would probably know when it's an Ohio State guy maybe a little bit more than anybody else would. That would be in a broadcast. And you're just like, how is this. Is this, like, going to happen? Is this guy, you know, Peter War to this day, and Peter Warwick had a decent NFL career, but you had to watch him in college to understand, like, it was horrifying. All right, Jesse Palmer tells these amazing stories about playing against Florida State when he was at Florida, and these corners just lining up across from Peter or being absolutely scared to death, and he just made things happen throughout an entire football game. Gets the NFL. He's okay, but not nearly the same thing. Harrison Jr. You know, it's. It's. Obviously, I'm not in write off mode here, but it Was just that bad. It was so bad. And what really always frustrates me with the blocking stuff is hey, f. You may not get balls thrown your way, you may be getting double coverage, somebody else might be hot, the quarterback might be having a bad night, you might be getting no flags whatsoever with interference. So now the corners think they can get away with murder for the next three, three hours. Like there's stuff that's not going to go your way playing that position. It's why these guys lose their minds. Because they run and run and run. And if you get two targets all night, they're, you know, they're kind of selfish a little bit too. And it, and it pisses a lot of these guys off. But blocking and effort, that's up to you. Then we have the fourth quarter. So what was a 17, 6 game in the fourth quarter ends up being a 20, 20 game. Seattle then goes 26 yards in 28 seconds, kicks the game winning field goal after ryland hits from 44 after missing from 53, which was the previous possession, which probably would have put the game away, but at least for Harrison Jr. He was 4 of 4 on four targets, four catches and the touchdown. He looked like he gave birth after the touchdown. That's how just emotionally drained he was after his rough night. So a really, I don't, I don't know if it's promising. Cause I still feel like the first three quarters you're like, what's going on? But maybe none of it matters. Maybe it's. He's young, couple games in, frustrated night. Maybe he thought his uniform was dirty ahead of time. I don't know if you saw the alternate Arizona jerseys. I did something weird where I threw on TNF tonight. Carissa in the gang. And they were interviewing Buddha Baker. And then I thought like for just a. This is probably going to happen to you as you get a little bit older. But there was just a brief sliver. I don't even know if I'll give it a full second count. Just a sliver of a moment where I thought, was this like a 1 o' clock West coast kickoff? Because why is his uniform already dirty and he's sweating? Like, why is there rubber debris all over it? I was like, this is the pregame, you moron. It's kicking off at 5. Something normal scheduled time. You knew that that was like a bit of a freak. I'd be like, how long would I nap? What day is it? Does anyone have any applesauce? So all said, if I want to wrap up this entire game and I probably spent a lot of time on it already. The right team won. Seattle was the better football team, but in that classic NFL fashion. And the thing I would preach all week long if I were on a staff, stay in the game. Stay in the game. This sport, this league has a way of keeping you in the game. Whether it's the team that's up getting conservative, the team that's down raising their risk level. A turnover here, a miss kick there. The odd bounce of this ball like we don't have to be better than them. We just have to stay in this game. And you can steal some wins in this league and we see it every single week. And it felt like Arizona, like are they going to actually steal this one? So I still feel like Seattle winning the game winning or hitting the game winning kickoff field goal game winning kickoffs don't happen a lot. It was just the right, it was the right side. I don't even, not even from a gambling perspective. But Seattle was just better than them throughout the entire night. So I thought they deserved a win. Arizona look rough on offense. I don't know if I can keep doing legacy updates on all these different quarterbacks. Certainly not with Kyler every week. Although you could ask Kyler Murray what's going on with his decision making. When you decide to put on a Mike Vick jersey and pose with your pit bull trunks. He did apologize for the post and did take it down. But like that's somebody where I'm going. If you are going to think that's a good decision. Are you going to see the safety all the time? Are you going to rip it? Maybe unfair, but I don't know. I mean that's, that's, that might be a new category. That could be an award. I may reference that later on in the season, maybe for years. The rest of my life be like, is that a good decision? Is it a Mike Vick jersey with a pitbull decision? I wouldn't do that. Then this episode is brought to you by Viori. Viori isn't just activewear. It's a game changer. Their stuff is next level comfortable. Like why didn't I get these sooner comfortable? Their Sunday performance joggers made with four way performance stretch fabric are insanely soft and actually look good outside the gym too. Go to viori.com Ryan Ryen to get 20% off your 4 first purchase with Vori and enjoy free shipping on all US orders over $75 plus free returns. Exclusions apply. Visit the website for Full terms and conditions. So Kyler, when they needed it, did step it up a BIT. He converted three third downs on those last two drives and the only third that he didn't get, he got on the fourth down. He hit Harrison Jr. Again for the touchdown. But we're in season seven and I think with Kyler, there's going to be some great plays, plays that you feel like only he can do. There are going to be injuries and I think they're going to be limitations at time. So I don't think this is anything new. One number that is alarming to start the 25 season for Kyler. I like to look at the number of throws on target. So the percentage of your throws that are on target, he's 76%, which is a pretty good number for his entire career so far this season, 49%. So it's looked rough. While also facing the lowest pressure rate of his entire career. Darnold, four games into the Seattle part of it, I'm sure you like me, like so many of us are like, what it's Darnold going to be post o', Connell? Is it going to fall apart? Well, four games in, it looks great. There's some numbers that are a tick down, but it's looking like he's just juicing the football right now. Yards per attempt, career high. There were throws that he didn't connect on that I thought were incredible throws. The goal line throw that was incomplete, the anticipation to the left side of the end zone and then on the field goal that would have put him up two scores. The 50 plus yard that Ryland missed. But on that drive there's a third and six. He hits Jackson Smith in Jigba for a big game and he had somebody underneath right at the sticks that was wide open. And so, you know, you want to take. I think Daniel Jeremiah taught us this one. Like take the cheese, right? Like just take the easy stuff. But if he misses it, we're probably criticizing Darnold today and be like, oh, it was right there. And you know, who knows, like that could have been a crucial decision. But him ripping that throw and loving the stop and go route of Smith and Jigba and the anticipation that he threw with. And I thought he was just kind of dialed in all night. Even though the box score is not going to tell you. It's not like he threw for like 350 yards, it's like 2:40. But there's a confidence there with Darnold that I think speaks to that throw where he's like I'm taking this right now. And then again when he needs to go the field to set up the game winning field goal, they were able to do it. So I think Seattle's off to a really nice start here. It's not just record, it's not just schedule, it's. It's this. Darnold look like the guy that we saw in Minnesota. And for four games he looks a bit like the guy who finished 10th in MVP voting in 2024. Couple other thoughts from around the NFL. Houston's own three. They've been in every game. They've got the Titans at home. Thank you. If I'm a Texans fan, you think they get right this week? O line was the off season issue. Not sure I'd label it a priority with the names they brought in, but four new guys next to a right tackle was kind of a utility guy because as the season went along we saw towards the end you're like, Stroud doesn't even have a chance here. And I think we all. I still like CJ Stroud. There you go. I said it. Yeah, I said it, folks. So let's look at some of the pressure rate here. Stroud pressure rate, it's gone from 22% as rookie year, 28% last year. This year it's at 20%. But if you look at pass block win rate by his group, again, only three games in this Texans group that they're playing on the o line is 26th in the NFL. So could that be Tampa though? You know, sometimes early on here you start looking at some of these schedules, like in college football, when it's like, hey, we play three directional schools. Look at our, look at our yards per attempt. You're like, no, I won't look at your fucking yards per attempt. Play somebody. So in this case, Houston has played somebody. Specifically when you're talking about this overhauling the offensive line, that seems to be this like diabolical issue that's derailing C.J. stroud's year and this offense the last two seasons. And again, I mean when I say the last two seasons, I'm talking 24 and the pieces that we have in 25. But you know, Tampa Bay that night was horrible, right? Referenced it a ton. Enjoyed the hell out of just watching that game. Not Red Zone and seeing the entire story for three plus hours. But Tampa has like killers on that D line. They're sixth in pass rush win rate. Let's look at the rest of the schedule. Like Rams, they get a couple dudes they're ninth. Jacksonville's actually seventh. So it hasn't looked good. I'm not telling you it's looked good. But they've gone up against three teams now that are winning their pass rush battles. I don't think that's going to happen against the Titans again, I wouldn't think. But it's something to look at there with the schedule. Mike Sando pointed out that the Texans are the first team to start Owen 3 without allowing a team to score more than 20 points in a game since 2000. And really, when you look at the spread between who this team was in Stroud's rookie year, where it felt like an average offense with an okay defense where they kind of complemented each other, maybe it's a weak division, maybe it's people not having a game plan against Stroud and it was just a really nice story. They got it right with d', Ameco, Ryan's. They get it right with Stroud. Stroud's better than Bryce Young. All of that stuff from the 23 season. Well, the alarming thing that continues to happen is that the defense is going one way and the offense is going the other where it keeps getting worse. If you go expected points added this offense was 15th in the NFL. Stroud's rookie year. You'd expect just as a rookie quarterback to be able to build on that, even though of course we always worry about kind of that sophomore slump part of this 25th last year, 30th this year. So they're one of the worst offenses in the entire league and they're becoming an offense that can't even help compliment a defense that, you know, doesn't have a chance with this offense. You know, we spent so much time talking about quarterbacks like, hey, you need a defense, you need a defense. We never seem to ever feel bad like is look, we've done it, but it's talked about far less because it's not this one single person that we're wondering about. But the defense is being let down by this offense. We'll see. Every Cam Ward stat, speaking of the Titans is pretty bad. He's 31 out of 31 QBs on success rate on throws. I love the success rate number. It tells you how often quarterbacks get you 40% of the first down needed on on actually 40% of the first and 10 on first down, 60% on second down or 100% on third and fourth down. And it's a really good indicator. It's an indicator of like, are you making the plays and you need to make them. And are you throwing it short of the sticks the entire time and going, look at my completion percentage. And I didn't throw any picks again this week. Cool, man on third and eight, we're throwing screens all the time. So Cam Ward, all these numbers are pretty bad. He's. He's third in sack percentage. His QBR is 19.8. It's last. I don't care about any of them. He's a rookie quarterback in a team that's in full reset year. You know, it's actually an old Ceruti theory, but it was like, if you're this bad, should you not even take the quarterback one? Well, granted, you're going to keep taking the quarterback, so I can't say yes to that. But it's at least an interesting question to ask yourself, going, if we're so not ready to bring somebody in, do we bring him in? Well, you do. Although you could have made an argument where Cam Ward stacked up as a number one pick or even as a top 10, top 15 pick in the first round. Like, how many of these other guys the last few years is he behind? And it felt like the evaluators had him behind a lot of these guys. But you're also on the other side of it going to go. We don't know we're going to have a chance to bring in somebody that's this talented. So we just take the QB now. So they were not ready for Cam Ward. So I'm not going to get on his case about any of these numbers. The interception percentage low. There you go. He's not throwing picks despite everything else not working around him. Now again to emphasize I do not care. This is not me being critical of Cam Ward. What I do care about is the Shador Sanders conversation. Luckily, I was traveling around the world and got to tap out on a lot of this shit this summer because I saw it, I observed it from a distance, from a beach, but we're a mountain. You know the quote this week that he's like, look, I'm ready to play right now. Great. You have confidence. You're a young man. I don't. I think we, you know, we want our quarterbacks to sit. I think, was it RG3 once at some point? Like when it was kind of on the back side of it and was like, I still think I'm the best quarterback in the league. I forget if he had said that or not. He got crushed for it, but what was he going to say? Maybe you could say something a little different, Right? So, Shador, maybe you can find something else. You know, is it disrespectful to Flacco? Is it disrespectful to anybody else? Or is it just him talking about his ability, saying, I'm ready to play right now, all right, fine, let's give him a pass on that. But to say that while we're watching the number one pick struggle this bad, you know. Cause you're probably not ready. You're probably not ready. And you know the shefter story from a couple of weeks ago that said he told the Ravens, I don't want to come here. And it plays back into what happened during the draft and what's going on with him in the preseason. And just there's so much conversation around him that's bullshit. And I find myself. Not necessarily. I'm not rooting against Shore, Sanders. I'm older and successful. Like, what the fuck do I care? But what I find myself doing is rooting against the people that have awful theories on how his career has started. Because, look, it's not apples to apples, but if 60 Minutes wants to interview me, they probably don't. That's not breaking news. It's not where I'm going. If they were like, hey, we want you to work here. And I was like, well, I'm not going to be, like, sitting a stool in front of the graphic guy. I'm doing features. Boots on the ground, send me to Somalia. They're like, we don't think you're ready for that. Like, well, then I'm not doing it. They're probably not hiring me. So if you're a marginal quarterback prospect, telling NFL front offices like, you guys get a starter here in place, I'm not coming here because that story told me that. It wasn't just that he said that to Baltimore, which is, again, another issue. Probably shouldn't have fallen as far as he fell, but, like, all of this is happening and yet people want to come up with other reasons why it's happening, and I'm not. Again, I'm not even rooting against the player. I'm rooting against the people in their theories. And when I hear him say, hey, I'm ready to go, it's like, the number one pick doesn't look fucking ready. Sure, we could say it's confidence, but I think it's also okay for me to not like it. And now it's time for a special part of today's episode, brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. If you're an NFL fan, there's one move to make this season and that's subscribing to to NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. 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So I'm glad, I'm glad I had YouTube TV because I was able to just go, look, I need to get on this other game. All right, so dream box scenario. We have only 3, no 4, 105 and 125 kickoffs. We have the Ireland game. That's 6:30 Eastern for me out here. I usually boycott the London games. I don't want to say it's because of Joseph Warren, but it wouldn't be a mistake to wonder if that was a factor in this entire thing. So here's what we got. Could it be Rattler starting his career with zero wins and double digit losses? That doesn't seem like it's the best thing ever. I think it's Chargers and Giants, Jackson, Dart, it's Philly and Tampa. Tampa has hertz number for some reason. I want to see Colts and Rams, but that's a little bit later so I'll be able to see that anyway. So let's go Back to the 10 o', clock, 1 o' clock Eastern Games. Give me a little Cleveland, Detroit. Let's stay on the blueprint. How about this Cleveland schedule by the way? And what else, what else, what else? 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Thanks for having me on, Brad. Good to see you too.
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So I'll just carry over from Brad's impression of you reading for Robbie. I actually kind of want to start here. When you're reading for a part that you know is important, like the rest of us can have our days be like, oh, today's super busy. Like, I've got a ton of meetings. What is the preparation? Because I imagine too after like Mayer, you're thinking, I really kind of would love to have this HBO angles be the whole thing. What is. Is it days prior that morning, what's that like for your life to go, all right, I'm reading for this super important part. Part?
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Yeah. I mean, I. It doesn't. When I was younger, it would be a nerves thing, but it's not that anymore. I mean, if. If you don't learn how to have like a different relationship to it, unless you're wildly successful all the time, I think you kind of lose your Mind, you know, I think that's where a lot of people just kind of give up on it. So now it's more just, you know, it's kind of a moment where you get to execute what you can do to your own satisfaction and. And send it on. And so that's really all I focus on, you know, in. In task in particular, when I read it, I thought I understood the character immediately. You know, on. On some level I could. I didn't even try and do the accent in the audition. You know, I knew that was going to take time. But, you know, for that one in particular, I think I did, like, one take of each scene. I did it outside because there was something too pretty about being inside and the lighting and the zoom set, you know, like all this kind of setup. So I just went outside. It was like an overcast day, threw on a hoodie and taped like, two scenes real quick. The audio wasn't good. It was windy. You can hear, like, dogs barking in the background. But I just. It was like, this is. This is it.
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This.
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This is. This is right, you know.
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Do you know? I don't know if you know, what happened, but Brad told us one of the other producers called him immediately after he saw your. Your read and was like, did you see it? Did you see it? And he was like, yeah, we've got Robbie. Like, did you know that? Or. I. Maybe at some point early on in the process, you knew you had the advantage.
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The process was quick. Once I sent them the tape, I knew I had the job in a few days. But it's not always like that. And, you know, it's you. You just don't know everything that has to go into that decision, you know, and that's what I'm kind of saying to your first question is like, you really learn how to separate yourself from the attachment to the result. Not always. Not a hundred percent, but like, it used to be that you get an audition like that. And it felt like my entire life was on the line, you know, everything was hinging on how do. How do I do in this and. And do I get the job or not? And it's just exhausting, you know, especially when. When I was younger, the business has changed a bit. But when you're younger, you do multiple leads a week, and your life is just like this roller coaster, you know, because you're taking everything personally. And it's like, if I don't get it, I'm not a good actor or whatever. And if I do get it, I'm King of the world. And both aren't true, you know, and so you learn to survive and to, like, persevere and to keep doing this thing. You learn how to have a healthy relationship, which is like, I know what I can do. I know what I'm responsible for. I'm going to do it to the best of my ability. And then you kind of let it go.
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What are some of the things from when you were younger that, I mean, you had to do wrong to make you the success you are today?
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Gosh. I mean, I remember having a few auditions with the great Sam Mendes for theater, and one time in particular went in for a small role. I was young, I was in my early 20s, and went in and read for him for this great play he was doing with, like, Julianne Moore and Bill Nye. And it was a small role, and I auditioned. He was so lovely. And we auditioned, played around with the scene, and he's like, you know, I actually think you might be right to read for this lead role. There was like a third lead, but it was a British person. I'm like, oh, no, can I just have the small one? But, okay, so you prepare all that and blah, blah, blah, and work on the accent and don't end up getting that part the next time. They called and said, you know, Sam wants to see you again for this new thing. And it was Shakespeare. And I remember I built up this idea of working with him so much in my mind that I went into the audition and I'm going to use. I'm going to do some prop acting here. Legit, right? I had my sides.
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Just shaking.
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Shaking from nerves. And, you know, and you have those moments, and. And I knew. I mean, I was like this. This poor guy, and he was trying his best to, like, calm me down and help me, but you learn, like, okay, that's. That's not going to work. So now how do I start to think about this stuff in a way that's helpful for me and for him? Because he wanted me to do well. You know, I could tell he did, but he's like, okay, this. This guy's in the today. And. And that happens, too. And it really is. It becomes. I. I found that it became like a. A refinement process of, like, am I grounded? Am I centered in myself? Because our business is also so weird and so crazy. And sometimes you get a call the day before that you're going to fly somewhere and meet somebody. You watch their work your whole life, and, you know, it's. It's not always. It's calmed down a bit in terms of that. I have more of a. I can see things coming better now. But when you're younger. Wild.
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Yeah. I can't even imagine, like, just all the meetings, you're like, this is going to be the meeting. And you're like, that was not the meeting.
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That was not the meeting.
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And then you could just be older and be like, this may not be the meeting, but I'm going to go to it, you know, and as opposed to, like, this just kind of. I don't know. I think some of that youthful desperation is fuel. I think it can be really good. I think being delusional can be, like, really good in this kind of stuff. But, yeah, I mean, you have to go through all of that, I'm sure, to get to the point you're at now a hundred percent.
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B
And I also genuinely believe in a spiritual sense, that any good effort is not wasted. And so. And I've also had it happen in a literal sense where a certain meeting or audition with certain people didn't work out. And three years later, they're giving me a job doing something else, because maybe they couldn't have given me that job, but they were like. Like the way he showed up, like, the way he did his thing, think he's good. They keep you in mind. It works out later. You know.
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A
When you're reading Robbie, I feel like sometimes my questions to actors are just fucking terrible because, like, a lot of times they'll just go, well, how did you do this thing? Or, what were you doing when you did that? You know, And I'm. I'm trying to avoid that, even if I want answers to some of that stuff. But, you know, we. We on the outside can forget, like, hey, this is my job. This is like what I trained myself to do. To be able to do all the things that, you know, you guys can't seem to figure out. But specific to Robbie, like the physical part, you've got it. The look, you've got it. The East Coast, New York thing, you know, and even though New York and Philly would tell you they're not the same, everybody outside of that area, as I told Brad, like, there are similarities with the mindset and the approach of, like, how the A day is attacked. So there's a lot of things that you already come into this with.
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B
Whereas I'm from Jersey, just to clarify. And Jersey's even. Even more similar to Philly than New York, in my opinion.
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A
But, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I'm Thinking, like, Rutgers, I spent time in Trenton, not in the prison. I was working for a baseball team. But, like, there was a lot of. As a Massachusetts guy, I was like, where does this PA Thing melting into Jersey? Like, where does it. Where are the actual lines? I know it's supposed to be the water, but there's a lot of similarities. So right now, I'm glad you clarified that for the rest of the audience, because we need to get some. Some more context on this Phillies first pitch, but. Well, we're going to save that for later. But when you're playing somebody who's. We want to have so much sympathy for, but also is doing terrible things, how do you figure the best way to attack that part of it? Because it's one thing to just be the good guy or the bad guy, but Robbie's both guys.
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B
Yeah, well, I mean, with every role, it's my job, and I feel very. I take this very seriously. Like, it's my. It's my job to. I have to work until I, Tom, am convinced that every choice is the absolute and only choice that character could make. And so you just have to, like, you know, it's always a mysterious thing. You do it different ways, different times, but it's like the amount to which you are judging what the character's doing is the amount to which, in my opinion, you're not doing your job. You know, like, I have to be that character. I'm that character's advocate. Like, I. I become their avatar, in a sense. And, like, when we go through life, like, whatever you've done, maybe you made choices you're proud of, maybe you made some choices you regret. But, like, I would wager that in that moment, maybe you made a bad decision. You didn't suddenly become a villain. You know, maybe you were having a hard day, maybe you were sad, maybe whatever. But your decision came out of where you were as a person in that moment and the circumstances. And you have to find that, you know, because otherwise, in my opinion, otherwise we're. You're judging these characters, and you keep them at arm's length. You, like, decide what they are, which is, I think, not good in acting. I think it's also not good in life.
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C
But.
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B
So then your job is to just make it personal, to pull it into yourself. To where I, Tom, am looking at all of this and saying, yeah, we gotta take that kid. At the end of the day, Brad is writing this roadmap, and. And we got to get in and drive the cars, you know, and it's Got to feel like the more it feels like I understand perfectly and can relate perfectly to whatever the character's doing, I think the better it comes off because I'm never thinking. And I in, you know, I think this is like the kiss of death. I'm never thinking, how do I make this guy likable? You know, I'm always thinking, how do I make this honest? Because let's face it, like, again, unless you're playing a serial killer, people are not good or bad. You know, they're human beings. It's complex. It's very complicated. And in some moments, they're beautiful. And in some moments, they make bad choices. It's not for me to judge it when I'm playing them, you know.
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A
When I know each show is different. Right. Like some shows, it's like, thanks for the script. Please go away now. Because then the writer starts freaking out, seeing the lines changing, and shows are shot in different ways. Like, I've gone back and read. Like, I love succession. Everybody loves it. But I've gone back and read the scripts, and it is amazing, like, as that show evolves, the freedom and it also makes sense. It's like, are they writing this dialogue? And it's like, hey, this is kind of the foundation. And then, like, there's this line. I'm getting derailed here a little bit. We can get this in. But I was watching Heart's Darkness last night, the documentary on Apocalypse Now. I hadn't watched it in, like, years and years and years. And Dennis Hopper won't remember any of his lines. And Coppola's like, look, the lines are there for you to forget, so at least learn them and then work off of those. So we could spend some time on that, because I have kind of a follow up on that. But Brad in particular, the relationship of. He has it all in his head. You're there to execute the plan. What is that dynamic, like, specific to this show for you?
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B
Yeah, I mean, look, Brad's writing in particular is exceptional. I mean, I think his words on the page are beautiful, super clear, very detailed, very specific. Brad really cares about characters in a way that not every writer works from. You know, Brad really is more interested in character. And then we'll kind of retrofit a story to figure out how he can spend time with these people. I think a lot of writers work from a story and then fit characters in. So I was trained in theater, and in theater, you can't change a word. So that's my baseline, you know, and, you know, and Somebody works on a play, usually they've worked on it for a few years. They've chosen the words and the order, and that's part of a rhythm and it's part of a style. If you think, like, if you've ever seen a David Mamet play, maybe you've seen the David Mamet movie. That's a very particular style and speed. And when you watch those movies, all of those it's written in, that's on the page. It's wild. Reading one of his plays, you're like, how are we going to do this? Naturally, you have to work so hard to make it sound so sloppy. But he was writing all that stuff. And I say that to say, my, my. My first impulse is always to just honor the. The words as they're written. That being said, obviously, sometimes go away and work on it. You come back and, you know, your job is sort of. You understand the world, you understand the big picture. And then I sort of put the blinders on, and maybe I can start noticing a thing here or there, and I say, hey, Brad, thinking about this. And then maybe we change it or work on it together. And then there's also. Jeremiah was one of the directors on task, and he loves a little improv, which I love too, you know, but he created an environment where, you know, he wanted us sometimes. Sometimes he blocked a scene. We took a page of dialogue and threw it out the window, where he just said, if we move this way, you go here and we bring the camera there and I see your faces. We understand what we would have gotten out of that page of words, which is beautiful, which is really the kind of heart of film, right? It's like the moving picture tells the story. And Brad was totally supportive of that. And this is, again, something that makes him special and so awesome to work for, is he's not hyper precious. He wants the essence of the scene for the sake of the story. He doesn't care that every single one of his words is said exactly how he wrote it. Now, sometimes they should be. Often, I think almost always they should be. But he's willing to let that go for the sake of something better. Not every writer is like that.
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A
Here's another thing that I was wondering about is that, you know, just the shooting schedule alone, and it's not even specific to this show. And I was thinking about your role in Ozark and the comfort of. Of who you become when you're. When you're working on that character, but then also have to maintain that consistency. Like, I'd Imagine being Robbie a month later is a little bit easier than being Robbie on the first day of shooting, but Robbie has to be Robbie the entire time. And I think it's like a very underrated part of this, especially when that character is a bit more extreme. Like your character is Wendy's brother dealing with mental illness. And Ozark, where I think even that was its own challenge, because it's like anybody that's had any loved one or family member that's dealing with any sort of mental illness challenges, it's like, look, it's not 24 7. They're not on display the entire time. So a lesser actor may go into it with, like, all right, well, I'm just going to, like, unload the trunk. And it's just like, well, that's not really how that goes. So how do you work on maintaining a consistency, even though just human nature would. Would lead you to be way more comfortable as the character months after shooting as opposed to the first day?
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B
Well, that's a great question. That's a really smart, insightful. Quite. You're beating yourself up before for the quality of your questions. That's a really. No, it's a really interesting question.
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A
Sometimes I just want to ask dumb ones, Tom, like, what was going on there?
- [42:17]
B
You know, actually, Laura Linney, working on Ozark, helped me with this, because the other wild thing that you can throw into that mix is that you're filming.
- [42:25]
A
Out of order, right?
- [42:27]
B
So, you know, when we did Ozark, the last four episodes, we shot them all together, so it was like you'd be doing episode six one day, and then that afternoon doing, like, the last scene of episode nine, and then the next day you're back in episode five. You know, it was just wild. But she helped me with this sort of system where you can get it out and get it to where you can look at it. So whenever I'm working on something, whatever office space I have becomes just like the walls are plastered and basically have a version of the entire story where I can see it so that I can, every day, even before I go to work, I can just quickly go through the story. And you work on it. You work on it so that when you see it, you have a shorthand with what it means, meaning you read the scripts enough so that if you just looked at a quick breakdown of it, you would go, right, I remember exactly that. And maybe there's notes and maybe there's things about levels and all this. And so you can look at it and, like, ground yourself of like, okay, we just. In the story, we just were here and did all this. And then today I'm gonna go film this scene here, right? So I remember that. I remember what's coming next. You know, like, it's. It sounds so simple. But that becomes, especially with these TV shows, especially when you're filming, out of order becomes a huge part of it. And then to your point, you're absolutely right. I mean, the first day of filming, you're not as comfortable as you are a few months in. And so that's just like, I got kind of lucky on task. We had a lot of time. I had a lot of time where I knew I was going to do the job before I had to start the job. And that's like such a gift. There's nothing more useful than having time to spend with something because then it kind of gets in your bones, you know? Like, we had so much time that I'm just sending Brad, like, three page emails about a new tattoo that I want for the character and where I want it and, you know, but so by the time. By the time we got there, it never feels as comfortable on day one, but I felt pretty good about where I was. But yes, to your point, like, what you hope. What you hope to address what you're saying is, is that everybody is aware of this.
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C
Yeah.
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B
What you hope is that they schedule the shoot in such a way that you can start with some very easy scenes, like some gentle. Let me just be in this character in front of a camera on set, settle in, feel this a little bit. You hope they're not throwing you into the deep end.
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A
Yeah, that would make sense. The accent you touched on it. It's a weird mix. You know, I can see, like, certain characters getting excited to say water in the show. Like, hey, this is what I'm comfortable with. You know, my guy Van Pelt, he's just another level as a Montgomery County, Maryland guy. So there's whatever that Delco. You know, it kind of carries all into it. And look, that's not the Jersey accent at all. It is just something that happens a little south of all the Jersey, New York stuff. When did you become like, you know, you're getting it? So I think to have Brad give you the sign off is probably a great feeling. But, like, what did you do to get yourself ready for it? Because it seems like everyone in the show is having a little fun with it.
- [46:15]
B
Yeah, I know, I know. We had a great dialect coach, Suzanne Selby. And then for my brain, though, like, I couldn't I couldn't let it go until I heard a real. A real human being with that accent speaking freely, you know, like, not an accent coach, not somebody who's recording their voice for me to hear where they know that's what I'm listening for. One of the girls worked with On. On production. She put me in touch with her cousin Ryan, and he's from Delco, and full on accent. And so I would call him and cool dude, and we both love football, so we could talk about football, and he would, like, he could. We could get lost in the conversation in a way that I could really hear, like, oh, okay, that. That's how that sound goes when you hear, like, a real speaker using it. And this is where it gets, like, ratcheted up if he's excited or pissed. And this is where, like, you can kind of lose some of the things that are, like, on paper, the accent. You know what I mean? Like, it's not. It's not really as consistent as you would think. You can't, like, sit down. And so that was the final straw for me that helped me feel comfortable. It's like, the more I felt like I could sound like he sounded on the phone in terms of sound, that was when I felt like I could do this.
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A
So if you were talking to him about football, though, shouldn't you, as a Giants fan, been far more pissed off than he probably was on the phone?
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B
I was.
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A
How are you? How are you doing?
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B
I mean, it's just.
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A
How do you. And by the way, then, to have Daniel Jones do this, the first.
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B
Literally what was about to come out of my mouth, how do you watch what Daniel Jones is doing in Indy as a Giants fan and not want to jump? I mean, it's just insane. It's like Daniel Jones is the answer. Daniel Jones is like a franchise quarterback. You're like, oh, wow. It wasn't a Daniel Jones problem. Yeah, it's frustrating. Dart's exciting. I think he looks like a stud. Cam Scatter Boo is amazing. I mean, like, I think everybody in football is jealous of us having Cam Scatter Boo at this point because of how hilarious and exciting he is. But, like, our defense that was supposed to be off the charts shows up and gives up for loses, you know, gives up 40 to the Cowboys. It's like, what's going on? What's going on, Brian? You tell me.
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A
I thought the Russell Wilson thing was so dumb. He'd been shot for a while here, and then to go, well, this is a good bridge. Is just like, just play Jameis. At least the locker room would like Jameis. Like, if you want to hold off on the Dart part of it. I just don't like when a coach is in a spot like Dable, where it's. This is basically it for you, and you're already breaking the emergency glass after three weeks with Dart. And all you're hoping is with Dable's background and some of the stuff he's been able to do with other coaches, and it's like, can he show Giants ownership in the front office, like, enough of a Runway? Can he. Freddy Kitchens, Baker Mayfield, this. And granted, Freddie was the OC and then became the head coach because there was, like, this window. I see this happen far too often, and I just, I like Dart a lot. He's a lot of fun. He's a baller. He's aggressive as hell. He's going to have to never attack defenders the way he did running the football as he did in college, or he's going to be hurt in two weeks. The Russell Wilson red zone stuff was. I mean, even I, who's probably been a little critical of him over the years, just to keep you up to date, Tom here, that was that I felt bad for him. Like, when you're throwing it out of bounds, it just was over. But it just feels like way too. Or not even through September, man, and you're already changing course of the. All the off season planning. Unless he really was that great in practices and had that much command. But I never believe any of that shit, really.
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B
No, I know. And. But there's also, like, that's, like you said, that's literally the only trail left wherein this regime stays in their jobs.
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A
Right.
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B
Dart is the dude, you know, and that's a ton of pressure to put on him. I mean, he seems. Seems like the kind of guy who can handle it. But I agree with you. I. Yeah, I mean, if anything, throw JMO in there and that'll be. That'll be fun.
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A
Yeah, it'll be fun for everybody. So you. You threw out the first pitch for the Phillies, but you're a Yankees fan, so does everybody just think you're from Philly now? Is that why you, like, had a little bit of attitude? Just remind me that you were from New Jersey in the beginning of the interview to be like, dude, this whole Philly thing.
- [51:01]
B
No, it's. The attitude is like, yeah, New Jersey. We're always going to have a chip on our shoulders. We're talking about the Giants who play football in New Jersey. And are called the New York Giants. The jets play football in New Jersey. Half the people don't even realize this. Like, New Jersey is just completely overlooked. If you live far enough north in New Jersey, New York claims that you're just another borough.
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A
And which town were you from? Where did you go to high school?
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B
Howell. Howell Township. Monmouth County. Like, but right by the shore. And if you live far enough south in Jersey, Philadelphia just claims you. Like, just an extension of Philadelphia. It's like, no, we're our own damn state. But, yeah, I had a tricky weekend. We had to go to Philadelphia to do. To do press. And, like, if I'm die hard, psycho, anything, it's a Giants fan. Like, that's where I can't. I can't budge. I won't give you an inch. And so, you know, we got to go to the Phillies game, and they wanted me to wear a jersey. I was like, absolutely not. No way. And they're like, will you wear green? And I was like, absolutely not.
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A
I can't do that.
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B
And then, you know, they have us go out before the game to do the Eagles song and. With Legarette. Blount. Blunt. Blount.
- [52:16]
A
Blunt. Yeah. Awesome.
- [52:18]
B
Like, so cool talking.
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A
Emily's brother.
- [52:22]
B
Yeah, right, right.
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A
But.
- [52:23]
B
And we did. They did the song, and I didn't. I didn't sing a word, and I didn't flap my arms. I smiled and I cheered when it was done.
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A
Good for you.
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B
Well, you're walking a tightrope. Because it's, like. It's amazing that they invited us to go. It was really cool, obviously, and I understand that, and I'm respectful of that. And I. I had a great time, but I also. You don't want to, like, also with, like, Philly and New Jersey people. Are you kidding? They'll all kill you for that. Nobody's interested in you pretending something, you know what I mean? So that I couldn't do. And then we go to the Phillies game. Two nights later, I get to throw out the opening pitch. And I love the Yankees. I'm not as psychotic about the Yankees as I am about the Giants. Once Jeter retired, I basically became a casual Yankees fan. Because I used to be obsessed. I mean, I would watch almost every game. Like, psychotic. I love the Yankees. Andy Pettit pitching, Mike Musina. I mean, like, the memories I have of watching those guys play, that's like, baseball for me. Mo, obviously. But since Cheetah retired, I'm more of a casual Yankees fan. So when they made me a Jersey it had my name on it. It was like, I get to meet, like, everyone in the Phillies organization. They're so lovely. They were, like, so friendly. Got to go meet John Kruck.
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A
Yeah.
- [53:49]
B
The announcers in the booth. It was like. I felt like I was at somebody's house with their family. You know, it was. I got to admit, it was very. You know, it's like, all right, give me that jersey. Let's go throw this pitch.
- [54:03]
A
So what was Ruffalo doing fully decked in Eagles gear? Because.
- [54:09]
B
I was like. I looked at him, I was like, you're gonna go. You gonna go get an Eagles tattoo on your chest tonight? I was like, you're really just giving over here.
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A
That's great. Good for you, though, because you know what I mean? It's like the Affleck thing in. In Gone Girl, where it's like they were supposed to. His character supposed to have a Yankees hat on New York City, and Affleck's like, look, you don't get it. You know, I mean, I like that you guys are doing that kind of stuff. You know, that stuff's rare now. Last thing for you, you grow up.
- [54:42]
B
In a certain culture where that's. I mean, with my family, truly, like, that's where the Giant stuff comes from is like, you know, the Giants would lose the game. My grandfather wouldn't talk for the rest of the day. You know, it was like it was life or death, and the whole family's on the same page about that. That's, like, such a part of how I understand myself that you just have to say, like, ah, man, that's one. I can't. I can't. I can't dishonor that.
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A
Yeah. You can't be sitting there doing an Eagles chant, man. Yeah, and they have to respect that, too. They should be like, hey, fuck that guy. But we like the way, like, the cut of his gym.
- [55:19]
B
Dude, what a game, too. That Eagles game, that was wild.
- [55:23]
A
I know.
- [55:24]
B
You were wild.
- [55:25]
A
We've had some awesome games to start the season. Okay. I did want to finish with this, and I'll let you get back to your day. But, you know, you do this for a reason, right? You do this to have these moments, and you kind of touch on the ups and downs, and it's a really, really tough career with some tough lows and some awesome highs. Do you notice a little bit of a different vibe walking around being back in la when you're on a hit show as the lead for an HBO deal and an Inglesby thing? Like, do you notice it's just a little bit different when you're on this kind of run?
- [55:58]
B
Yeah, I mean, I noticed it a few times in Philly, I guess, but also, like, you know, I'll tell you a quick story about this. It'll make you laugh. Literally happened yesterday, because this always seems to happen to me. But I got in the plane to fly back to la, and I sit down, and the guy across the aisle turns to the person who's sitting in front of me, and they say, I love task. I love task. To the person in front of me, I'm like, who's in front of me? So then I stand up and I hear Ruffalo's voice. I didn't even know we were on the same plane. And. Oh, Mark. And he pops up. Give him a hug. And I sit down, and the guy turns to me and he goes, do you work on Task? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, are you a writer? Producer. I was like, producer. So straight up, someone who loves the show, is obsessed with the show, is looking me dead in the eyes from two feet away, and has no clue that the guy he's watching on Sunday night. So, look, I'll take that. I would. I would prefer that the. The.
- [57:26]
A
The.
- [57:26]
B
The other end of things seems a little uncomfortable for. For my taste.
- [57:31]
A
Do you have an EP credit? Maybe. That's. Maybe at all. Okay.
- [57:35]
B
I'm just not going to sit there like an. And convince this guy that I am.
- [57:40]
A
Who I say I am. Yeah, Robbie.
- [57:44]
B
Hey. No, I'm the actor in the show. He's like, no, you're not.
- [57:48]
A
Actually had more lines than Mark did in. In the. Well, that's funny, man. That's. That's really funny. It's not as funny as, I think the times where people will go up to Van Pelt and say, stu Scott. But that's happened to him. So. Look, we're happy for you, and we love the show. Everybody here on. On the podcast is, like, just texting every week about it, so I can't wait to see where it goes. I was offered the rest of the episodes of Screeners, and I was like, no, I want to just look forward to it every Sunday night. I don't want to binge it at any point. I want to get back to enjoying this stuff once a week and the anticipation. And I'm sure I'll have it Sunday nights on HBO Task. Thanks, Tom.
- [58:30]
B
That's awesome. Thanks, Ryan.
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A
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C
This was a year that I'm going to pick south. I thought we were going to do the alliance this year. Kind of got froze out of that, but we're back. So I'm going to just continue doing what I was going to do. I was going to pick South Carolina most weeks and I like a minus five and a half versus Kentucky. That's going to be minus 108 odds.
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A
Okay. All right. So Rudy, you've got something tricky for us.
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D
Well, I got two things in my head, like in honor of Oregon, because he wasn't afraid to fade his Penn State Nittany Lions and I'm like, do I take Oregon plus three and a half or do I take Alabama plus three and a half, which I also like against Georgia?
- [61:48]
A
So lot of betting on the Oregon side.
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D
Okay, so maybe we'll go Alabama. We'll take Alabama.
- [61:54]
A
No, I'm not discouraging you. I'm just saying that has been Joe Public.
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D
I don't want to be Joe Public if or if Oregon's public.
- [61:59]
C
It's funny that that can go either way. Like, you could totally make a case that, yeah, it seems like people with brains are betting on Oregon or you could be like, no, I don't want to do that. Interesting.
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D
I'm traditionally a zagger, so I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go with the Joe Public. Could be wrong. But all right, I'll take Alabama plus three. And I'm actually, it's the spread's two and a half. I'm just, I'm getting the full number. So it's minus 125, three and a half Alabama.
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Right. I moved a line as insurance on the Tampa winner on the Monday night and then I added another one as insurance against it. And the gambling guys that are pretty fun group to engage with just regularly, they didn't like that loss of value on that insurance. All right, LSU's plus one and a half at Ole Miss one. It's minus one and a half. I would think before, I mean, imagine what that line would have been for this game, say after week one, if you could have gotten a line on it. I don't think you ever would have thought it was going to be LSU plus one and a half. However, as much as you may think he's like, well, he's just going to take LSU in the points. I went to this game two years ago. It never stopped the offense. Just a flood. A flood of offense in this game. Gross. And Ole Miss took the w. The total's 57 and a half right now. I'm going to go with the under. So give me the under minus 110. Can you build that for us? For the alliance? Yeah.
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D
All right, so we've got Alabama plus three and a half against Georgia, South Carolina minus five and a half against Kentucky. And the under 57 and a half in LSU Ole Miss. That pays out about five and a half to one. So it's plus five hundred and sixty one.
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A
Okay, there you go. Check it out. You can build it. A three leg alliance like the old 23 days from sportsbook.fanduel.com you want details?
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C
Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet.
- [63:59]
A
What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the south fork.
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C
I have every toy you can possibly imagine.
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A
And best of all, kids, I am liquid.
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B
So now you know what's possible.
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C
Let me tell you what's required.
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A
Life Advice lifeadvice rrmail.com Kyle and Cerutty join the show. How are you guys doing?
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C
Had some undercooked steak. Just not great. I think that's what it is. No, no, no, no. I'm off that train. I'm off that train.
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A
Steaks in the morning.
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C
It's not unheard of, but yeah.
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A
Steak and eggs. Yeah. I mean, have you ever done steak and eggs, like on purpose? Yeah. It's too much.
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C
Even I would tell you that's too much.
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D
I actually disagree. Well, I don't know that I have like a full New York strip and eggs on the side, but if we do like some sort of grilling situation, I'm cooking steaks and I've got some leftover. I'll like slice it up thin and make like a, like a steak, egg and cheese sandwich in the morning. And oof.
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C
If your boy got 80s and above for the report cards, like I could expect a steak and eggs from my mouth.
- [65:02]
D
How often did that happen?
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C
That's why we could expect it. You know, I think she'd Maybe let a 79 slide once and be like, all right, we'll get this going for you. But I've always felt terrible after eating a steak and eggs breakfast because it usually comes with potatoes and then it's like, I guess I'll go back to bed or I'll just lay in this restaurant booth.
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D
What's your go to Breakfast diner order, dude.
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C
I mean, I'll. I'll take a look. I'll look around and be like, is this a place where I can order eggs Benedict or.
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A
No, I'll look around.
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C
I do love that sometimes I'll Maybe a Denver omelette. Like, I'll see what kind of omelets they have there. But generally, I'm not like pancakes or French toast or any of the bready shit.
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D
I only ask because I am a. I love corned beef hash.
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C
Oh, dude, I love corned beef hash, too.
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D
That's my go to.
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A
Yeah. What about scrapple?
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D
No scrapple.
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C
There's a Philly guy in the Frog room that tells me all about scrapple.
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A
And I don't know.
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C
It doesn't sound great. He's really trying to pitch me on it. I'm like, dude, this sounds terrible. He's like, there's, like, hooves and snouts in it. I mean, we don't really ask.
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A
Yeah, yeah. It was just because of Task and Pelfrey being on the show today.
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C
There was a scrapple.
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A
Scrapple, yeah. They have a scrapple mention in the wire too, do they?
- [66:16]
C
Guess I missed that.
- [66:18]
A
Yeah. It's during the stretch where McNulty's turning the homeless murders or homeless deaths into a serial killer, and he runs into some other detective, which there's hints at a previous rendezvous, this blonde woman. And they're actually at the morgue, I think, which maybe put her in the mood for scrapple. She's like, buy me some scrapple. Nice. No, thanks.
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C
I don't think I'm interested in trying it.
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A
Never had it, never will. Yeah. Yep.
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B
Yep.
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C
No diner order for you. We'll just. We'll give ours and we'll move on.
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A
Scrambled eggs, bacon, wheat toast. All right. Grilled potatoes.
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C
That's exactly how you say it to her, too, right? Just like, kind of one. One long word.
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A
Yep.
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C
Scrambled eggs, bacon, wheat toast.
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A
Like, hey, are potatoes fried? They are. No, thanks. There's a place that grills them.
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D
Is that a health thing or is that a flavor thing? Because I would argue that fried potatoes are better, but I understand why you don't want to be eating those all the time.
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A
I don't want to be eating them all the time. And I just think grilled potatoes, when they're grilled, you know, when they're.
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D
They gotta be well done, though.
- [67:30]
A
They can't be like, yeah, crispy is a must. I'm with you. I'm with you. A little seasoning on there. But I just think they hit right where if you're early in the morning and you're basically just eating French fries from a diner and it's a bit like, back to the steak conversation. I don't want to just house. A shorter vertical French fry is all we're really talking about here.
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C
If you really want to get in the weeds, you're right.
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A
Just shapes.
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D
Yeah.
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A
That's all we're talking about.
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C
Don't get me started on hot dogs, dude.
- [67:59]
A
I know. We're simpletons, man. Sometimes. You know, there's a lot of stuff that's really good about us. I do subscribe to the theory that most of us kind of want the right things, but then there's just dumb shit that we do where it's like, no one would ever think, I'm going to have French fries at 6:00am it's like, okay, well, what if I make them smaller?
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C
Sure.
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A
Okay, in.
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D
What if they're a dice? Yeah.
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A
Absolutely in. All right, now that we solved those problems. Yeah. Follow up to the Chipotle Bogo email from last Friday. We got a million of these. Hello, life advice crew. You were completely correct on the Chipotle buy one. What is it? Is that. Is that what we're talking about or is it actually pronounced Bogo? I don't know. Chipotle.
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C
There was a. You know, Payless had a big Bogo campaign. It was like, all over the. All over the TVs, but, yeah, some. Some people will say Bogo, but yeah.
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A
Buy one, get one.
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C
Buy one, get one.
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A
Yeah. Email from last week. In fact, the letter writer's friend probably wasted two Chipotle trips limited to five free menu items per check and his subject availability. Then he sends us the link. College Bogo. Dude, Chipotle should just write us a check. A number of times we've mentioned them.
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C
I went after that life advice, by the way.
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A
What's that?
- [69:19]
C
I went after that life advice to grab some Chipotle, but, like I said, didn't have a college jersey and it wasn't a Saturday.
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A
You should ask to borrow my Rob Conrad. Yeah. Next time, the letter writer should at least check the terms before bitching at his friend. Harsh but fair.
- [69:37]
C
Sterling, he's one of us.
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A
Yeah. Be nice. Okay, let's go back to you. Soccer. No gym stats to be proud of yet. I love the positivity, but I've joined a soccer league and I'm gaining stamina every day. Chiming in from Rhode Island. Shout out to the Providence for appreciate It. I'll keep it quick, but I have a question on what I should have done after making a comment. My son is 7 years old and playing soccer for a few years now and loving it. This past weekend, we went up against a team with a kid playing for the first time. A real Bruiser Like Jay McGuire. Yeah. Great retention out of you, Podcast legend. Yeah. This is bottom of that one three one zone. Yeah, go ahead, Sery.
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D
I just said he's getting a lot of love.
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A
He is.
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D
What's he up to now?
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A
No idea. This is a rec league. They all chased the ball in a herd. So this bruiser had elbows out shoving everyone. No skill, not going for the ball, just attacking the other team. I'd never liked this kid when I was young, so I don't think I'm making fun of a kid now as an older person, but even if I were seven and the other guy were seven and be like, your skill is fat. You know, like. Yeah, I just. It just used to drive me crazy, even as a little kid. Like you had as a little guy.
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C
He's one of the littler guys out there.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. Especially just skinny. Just skinny as a rail, you know?
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C
Must have been tough. I don't know about it.
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A
With my UNICEF box. Is this for you? All right, so no skill, just attacking the other team. The coach is doing his best, trying to refocus him on just playing the ball. I'm usually very vocal when my boy scores. Not when the game is out of control, though. Keep it classy. So after a few times, my son got pushed. The couple next to me yelled out, keep your elbows down or stop pushing. I figured it was his parents. Oh, wow. I thought to myself, what would Ryan and company do? And I thought it'd be appropriate to make light of the situation. So I leaned over and said, quote, looks like he'll be a great football player, huh? To his parents, the mom and dad did more of a nervous laugh and said, yeah, he's very competitive, and it's his first time trying soccer. We left it at that and never spoke again. We won the game in a blowout. Even though they don't officially keep score. It was 12:1. This guy was keeping score. Yeah. Yeah.
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D
He's got a notepad.
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A
What are you doing?
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D
Himself.
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A
I'm a poet. You just over there writing, like, now? Tracking passing success. Should I have apologized? I was annoyed in the moment. Didn't want anyone to get hurt. So the kid should keep his elbows down. But was there a true need to make the Parents feel bad. They were already aware of yelling and yelling for their son to keep his body to himself. Yeah, he probably would have.
- [72:23]
C
I would have apologized if I thought about it afterwards, like, hey, sorry, I just got all worked up. I think, you know, you guys might even have been dirty, I think, if you thought about it. Yeah, that's totally. That's an adult thing to do. That's a thing that, like, would never happen. If you're like, in one of these situations in high school or college, but you're adults now, you can totally do that. You can totally apologize without looking like a bitch or whatever. Whatever the word is that, you know, you don't want to be called. You can totally do that as an adult. And everyone respects it for the most part.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Cause you know what? That probably stung them later because they're like, man, we know he's a bit of a bruiser. We're trying to get it under control. There's like little things that. Again, my daughter's only three, but there's little things that she does, or you're trying to kind of correct them on the fly. And when people notice them, you can become self conscious about it. And so I'm sure that didn't help them, but I don't know. I don't think an apology was necessary. You're a good dude, clearly, for thinking about this. Many people would just say something and not even think about it, so at least take solace in that.
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A
The fact that they were yelling at their own kid to keep his arms down would have probably had a handle on it. Yeah, I think that would have been good enough for most people, but I don't. I don't know there was really any long term damage done here. Yeah, I think we're all going to be okay. Let's see here. Oh, this is terrible. It's not even email about a thing or it's not a question. I mean, I guess technically all emails are about something, just some less interesting than others. 32, 5, 11, 185. I don't move an impressive amount of weight, but I hit my workouts consistently. Player comp. Tayshawn Prince. Ooh, speaking of elbows. During my senior year of high school, every student was required to complete a senior project to graduate. Wow. High school senior standard.
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C
Pretty standard, huh?
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A
Did you have to do that?
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D
Yeah, I did not.
- [74:21]
C
You didn't have a project that you needed to pass in one of your classes that you needed to graduate?
- [74:26]
D
I mean, like, all of the classes you need to pass?
- [74:28]
C
I guess. Am I hearing this wrong. I mean, there's some of the, like, got to get through that last English course and there's going to be a big paper at the end of that. Like, are we talking, like, in addition to all your classes?
- [74:38]
A
This feels like a specific project that's part of the senior curriculum. I understand what you're saying, Kyle. Yes. We had papers and tests at our schools, too. I'm sorry then. I'm sorry.
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C
It's hard to focus. I told you I had some undercooked steak and I've just. I got an internal clock in my head here.
- [74:55]
A
Yeah, no, I hear you, man. I ate a spicy dip chicken parm sandwich last night. Spicy dip? Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And it was right in the part of the Heart of Darkness Apocalypse now documentary where Charlie Sheen's recovering from a heart attack and I'm like.
- [75:15]
C
T minus. What? What's the number?
- [75:19]
A
I don't know. I never do that stuff anymore. And just last night I was like, the game was over early.
- [75:27]
C
What am I going to do with myself?
- [75:30]
A
I don't know what I was thinking. Yeah. Because I was looking at it going. And there was even something where it was like, do you want extra prep? And I'm like, no. Or pepperoncini.
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C
Pepperoncini.
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A
All right. Yeah. All right, back to the project. So this. They have to do. This feels very specific to like, we've got to do a senior project to graduate.
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C
All right, I jumped the gun there.
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A
Sorry. The way he said it, every student was required to complete a senior project to graduate. If you're not familiar, it's a student chosen project meant to demonstrate interest and potential. We could have just kept reading. God damn it. I'm sorry. And potential career path in a final presentation. So, yep, I think it's a little bit more than just got some life.
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C
Advice of my own. Got some life advice of my own on this one.
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D
Seeing algebra.
- [76:12]
C
Boys, shut up and listen. Sometimes.
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A
Buddy, how are you doing on your Handmaid's Tale paper? Dude, I didn't even read it.
- [76:20]
D
Did you guys read all the books?
- [76:22]
C
I'm reading them now. I faked all the books. I'm reading them now.
- [76:24]
D
I faked most of them, too. I feel. I feel like for that too, I'd.
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C
Like to go back in time.
- [76:28]
D
I wouldn't do that. But I did Lord of the Frost.
- [76:31]
C
I might throw a Catcher in the Rye in there. I did read Of Mice and Men, I think. But yeah, Catcher in the Rye's on the list, you know, What? Lord of the Flies Totally should have been on that list. That was good.
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D
Yeah.
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C
Liked it.
- [76:41]
A
Catcher in the Rye blew my mind as a high school kid. I was excited.
- [76:46]
C
It's like a farm. I haven't listened. I haven't listened. I'll probably.
- [76:49]
A
I'm not going to tell you. I was super locked in on some of the college assignments early on, you know, but the funny thing about college professors, they can usually tell when you didn't read the book and then you write a paper on that book that you didn't read. They're quick, man. All right. The idea now that at this age and being through, like to sit there at 20 and think, or really it's 18, 19. And then things picked up. But let's say 19 to go. Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to pull this off. I'm not going to read a book confidently, a decent enough college and write a paper on this book and get a passing grade.
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C
This will work too much to ask of me.
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D
Yeah.
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A
All right.
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D
I found that out the hard way freshman year of college because I was one of those skate by high school kids. And then it's like, oh, I actually have to do stuff now. What is this?
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A
Yeah, I'm not a genius. All right, we've murdered this guy's email and storytelling. So student chose project meant to demonstrate interest in potential career paths, culminating your final decision or final presentation. Not decision. God. Sorry, man. Sorry. So let's get to the root of this. Yeah. Friday, long open. Sorry.
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C
It was perfect.
- [78:05]
A
A few friends and I decided to coach recreational basketball teams for fifth and sixth graders as their project. That age group ended up with five teams total. Four of them coached by seniors like us and one coached by a dad. That guy must have hated you, dude. Before the season started, we held an open gym evaluation. All the coaches watched the kids run drills and scrimmages, then ranked each player from 1 to 3 to help organize the draft. We knew the dad would have to use his first pick of the round on his own son, no matter which ranking group he fell into, all wanting to win. And being of the age we were, we decided to rank his son as a one, even though realistically he was more of a fringe two. The dad pushed back against our evaluation, but there wasn't much he could do. The draft went on as plan and he chose his son with a second overall pick. That season. His team ended up winning only one game. At the time, I didn't think twice about it, but looking back now, I feel Bad. Not only did we sabotage his team's season, but we also put him in the painful position of having to argue that his own son wasn't as good as we said he was.
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C
You guys are jerks.
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D
Double whammy.
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A
You guys are jerks. Did we take it too far? Well, yes, you did. You were high school kids. Yeah. I think a good thing. I don't know how often it'll happen to you, but I'll have a moment every now and then where I remember just. Whether it's a comment or an act or just something, and it's almost like a kidney pain where I'll just go, oh. And it's like five seconds of just shame and regret, and then I'll go.
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C
Oh, man, too much.
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A
What else? Like, all right, you just remembered this thing you haven't thought about in years.
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C
I'm doing it right now.
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A
What now? What do you. Now what do you want to do? Like, you want to have it linger all day long? Just, like, move on? It's okay.
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C
Like, where's the whiskey?
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D
I feel like everyone has, like, a roll, a Rolodex of, like, five cringe things he's done in his life, and they just periodically come up and you're like, it just ruins your day. It's just, oh, man.
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A
Day.
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D
Yeah. I guess your life, who knows, 20 years later on some of these.
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A
Yeah. So what you did, I think, falls into that. Like, you're telling the dad, while over evaluating him to mess up the draft process. And then his dad has to be like, my kid's not that good. What's wrong with you guys? And you're like, no, no, he's awesome. He's awesome. It's kind of funny. Like, this isn't.
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C
Wouldn't crack my top 10.
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A
Yeah, I'm taking that right now.
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C
But when you think about the psychological stress you put on that dad, maybe it creeps up the rankings a little bit for you, but certainly wouldn't be in my profile.
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D
It's just one of those high school kid things where you just don't know how out of touch with the real world you are. You wouldn't even think that that's a thing. And then you get older and you're like, yeah, that was a dick move.
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A
Totally, totally. Okay, on this one, I'm gonna need to forward an email. Oh, no, you gotta be kidding.
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D
I haven't had one of these in a while.
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A
Yeah. All right. Kyle, can you. How can this. So I've never forwarded an email. Oh, there it is. Well, we don't do it very often.
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C
No, we don't.
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A
Sometimes the old Gmail. Okay. All right. So as soon as you get it, just open it up while I'm reading.
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C
Okay?
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A
All right. So interrupt me. 65195. Sweet Squat 215 only dumbbell press now repping 90s for four sets of eight. Eight. That's great. Player comp. Skinny Draymond Green. Not much scoring but can rebound, play defense and had my fair share of technicals back in the day. Have a dilemma developing in my new apartment that I use some advice on. I recently moved to New York City with a friend file. Apparently has received the email. That was perfect. It's like it was scripted.
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D
Am I on this email?
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C
Kyle, I'll get you.
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A
There we go.
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D
Here we go.
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A
Packer. No packaging. We moved in September 1st and we've got along decently well. Don't think we will be best friends, but we both have our own established friend groups here and are rarely home. Here's the problem. He refuses to buy a bed. See his room attached. This is a work of art. Art. If you told me you had a hostage at your apartment and you weren't sure how to get out of it and this is where he lives, I would forward this email to the authorities. If you said, hey, at my house, me and my roommates reenact Inside Man. This is so funny. We printed out the screenplay and we read all the different parts. And this is Clive Owens spot. I would believe that you guys loved Inside Man.
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C
I think there's like hostels in Mexico City that's got more room than this guy has.
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A
Shout out, Kim. Director. Go ahead.
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D
There are just so many parts that are like potentially my favorite part. Like I think the loose cables on the floor.
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A
What about the Trader Joe's bag? That may actually be storage.
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B
It is.
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C
It is. You can tell that's. That's as much clothes as he could fit in there.
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A
This room.
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D
That's his laundry basket.
- [83:48]
A
Yeah, it's a Trader Joe's paper bag. There's a power strip just in case he brings in anything that needs power because there's nothing that needs power.
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D
He's also got a fold up chair in the corner just in case he.
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A
Has company come by. It's unbelievable. That one window is the width of a toothpick. Oh my God. This is a work of art. And the best part is that the sleeping bag that's on kind of like. It's not even a sleeping bag. It's a yoga mat.
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C
It's like A yoga mat.
- [84:24]
A
It's like a yoga mat. And then that sleeping bag. I don't even know if it can handle below 60 degrees Fahrenheit. The fact that it's army issue is. And I don't know that it is.
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C
But if it is, that guy's fine.
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D
He didn't buy that.
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A
Yeah, right.
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D
And then he received that somehow.
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A
It's not even just the sleeping bag. The pillow cases are army green. I don't know if I'd fucking suggest anything to this guy. What book is that?
- [84:54]
C
Hold on. That second picture is our emailer's room.
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A
This is.
- [84:58]
C
The distribution of wealth in this apartment is out of control. He says, to be fair, that he does pay more, but that's insane. I mean, that guy. What bed fits in that room, by the way? The full maybe, right?
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A
That one. Oh, my God. That's.
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C
Yeah. I mean, this is.
- [85:15]
A
I can't believe this guy owns two suitcases or unless he's just on the go, like a.
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D
Go back on time.
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A
Just a good time.
- [85:24]
D
Yeah.
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B
Closet man.
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A
That's. This got a 9 millimeter in there and 20 grand in bills just in case. All right, so he's got a lot of cables.
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D
Yeah, there's the laptop and the box of cables on the windowsill, too. There's a lot of cables.
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A
He's cable ready.
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D
Is that a first aid kit behind there, too?
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A
It's red. I think it is a first aid kit. This is. Is that an ax in the other one?
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C
Can we put this photo in? This is bad radio. For anyone who can't see. Like, this is just bad radio.
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D
We're gonna put it in the video.
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A
I think we have to. Yeah. I don't know if we can. I don't know if we can break that.
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C
Did he say not to.
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A
Is that. But what book is that? If that were the Giving Tree, I'd be super.
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D
I tried to zoom it in. It's too blurry.
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A
I can't figure it out, but I feel like that cover is somewhat.
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C
It looks like a book that wouldn't.
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A
Be fun to read. Yeah, it looks like something that you'd be like, I can. I can get a paper out of this. I don't need to read the whole thing. Feel like I've seen that cover before, though. I don't know. All right, all right, here's a problem. He refuses to buy a bed. At first, it was a good topic of conversation. My friends all thought it was funny how I had a randomish roommate who sleeps on the floor. Now we're a month in, and he has still made no effort to buy a bed. I've talked to him about the decision. He said multiple times it's not a cost thing, but a lifestyle change, and he has decided to take it on. Whoa, dude. I'm a very clean guy. Love to have a great setup. See my room attached, and be fair. I pay more in rent for the better room. Yeah, I hope so.
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C
Your room is like four of his rooms.
- [86:53]
A
I'm 50, and I want my room to look like that one day, you know?
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D
Well, two things. Is that a bear blanket on his bed?
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C
It's a. It looks like.
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D
What's going on there?
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C
A grateful bed, right?
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D
Oh, okay.
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A
I wouldn't dart. Fucking darty. Yeah, wow. Sorry.
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C
Try. Try listening to one thing older than you one time. Come on. That's the great philosopher.
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A
Is Archer Gray still your favorite, dude?
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D
Well, I know Althea. I know a couple songs, you know.
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A
Sure.
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D
Didn't know that was their thing. Sorry. Second point. Is there enough room in that. Is there enough room in that room for a bed?
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C
That's what I'm saying, dude. Like, maybe he could do one of those camping cots where it, like, keeps you off the ground and it likes.
- [87:32]
A
He'd probably like that.
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C
He probably would. I mean, it'd certainly be an upgrade. I mean, as funny and weird as this is, like, the. It's shocking how little space there is in this room.
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D
That room looks like the size of a twin bed.
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A
It doesn't look wide. Cerruti, you're not wrong there. Hardwood flooring. And then if you put a twin in there and it covers up all the hardwood flooring, I got to know, does this guy plan on never hooking up? Because he's doing a great job. If that was the plan, the best would be if the guy hits us up with a follow up. He's like, he actually does pretty well. Of course he does. So the lifestyle change he's decided to take on. I'm a very clean guy. We already covered this. At a certain point, I feel like his mess and lack of a bed is a poor reflection on me. All right, dude, close this fucking door then.
- [88:20]
C
Just close his door every time you walk past it. If he's not screwing up the dish thing and he's not screwing up the living room. This is like, this is why you either do or don't have roommates. But, like, that's not your space. If it don't stink and you can just close the door, I don't think you got a Leg to stand on.
- [88:38]
D
I don't see any ages in here, but I would imagine, like, if you're in your 20s, this is. It's not on you if your roommate's a slob.
- [88:48]
A
Yeah. I mean, this guy has, like, a legit duvet cover that matches the shams to go along with his Grateful Dead throw. It's not a full blanket, that's for sure. You know, like when you go to hotels and there's that runner on the bottom of the bed, you know, and it's like if you sit down on the top of the covers and you have your shoe and you're like, man, this is living. I could do this more. It's like you're going to put a runner down over your duvet once, and then you're going to take it off, and then you're never going to put it back. So, you know, that, to me, is being efficient. All right? So at a certain point, I feel like his mess and lack of bed, again, poor reflection on me. How do I bring a friend or a girl home and explain how my wacky roommate has shoes in everywhere and no bed? At what point do I need to seriously consider asking him to clean up his act, invest in some upgrades for a situation? Or I just let him be. Let him be him and deal with it? Yeah, let him be him. This guy is just wired a little different. And I don't. Like, I love the email, but I kind of don't love you emailing and saying, will this be seen as a poor reflection on me? It says Cho. It says maybe two older sisters. It says to me, like, not everything. Not every fucking thing in your orbit is a representation of you, so don't worry about it. You know, I'm giving you a little tough love here, but if you are like, hey, dude, I want to, like, I thought maybe it was, you're going to get him a bed because he can't afford one or he doesn't want to do that or whatever. And if it were something you could pull off, then fine. But when he closes that door, that's his time. That's his room, you know, whatever that meridian is.
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C
Yeah. And I guess the last thing I'll say, just to try to give this guy a little bit of, like, food for thought or maybe a peace of mind when either.
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A
A penny for your thoughts. Yeah.
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C
Even when, like, whether. When I'm going to visit a friend, friend's coming over my house, went to go on dates with a girl. Girl came over my house. I wasn't like, let me show you my roommate's room. Never once was I invited to go see, you know, her roommate's room. Like, it was never really a part of the guests that you're worried about having over. I think this is drilling into. Because you don't like the fact of it all, but it's really. That's not part of the apartment tour. You're like, oh, yeah, that's Todd's room. That's it. Boom. She's not like, oh, what's he working with in there? You know?
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D
Do you think he feels bad? Is that really. Is that it? Like, hey, yeah.
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C
But once the guy's like, no, man. It's not that I need any help.
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D
But it's hard not to be like, man, I have this. Like, you know, I have the bigger room. Like, even if you're paying more, you still feel a little self conscious. Maybe that's where our guy's at. And just be like, ah, like, this guy. I'm making this guy live like this. Even though you're really not.
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C
Maybe when he's fully stretched out and his queen tucking his feet under that Grateful Dead, maybe he's thinking about it. But, you know, they both signed a lease.
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D
So you said you knew this was your buddy's buddy too, right? So maybe ask him, like, hey, what's this guy's deal? I didn't get a heads up that he's like a. I don't know.
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A
I think it's a hell of a conversation starter, honestly.
- [91:56]
C
It might make you. Might actually shoot you up the rankings in some of these, you know, with some of these girls, it's like, you know, and sometimes it's nice to have a. No, sometimes it's nice to have, like a comedic relief friend over there. Sometimes that's really nice, honestly.
- [92:10]
A
Or like the girl on TV that has heavyset friends, like, goes on vacation sometimes.
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C
Yeah. Sometimes it does wonders just to be like, you know. So you guys both be like, there's Jake. I don't know what he's up to. We don't have to talk about whatever our issues are, because that's crazy.
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A
Yeah. But I almost feel like it's an attraction, you know, you've gone on a couple dates. Hey, what's your roommate do? Well, he's not into interior design. And then you have this, like. It's almost like you're a prop comic. You'd be like, do you want to see it? Yeah.
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C
And sometimes, like the friend now, you.
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A
Don'T even have to. You don't Even have to talk about feelings anymore. You're going to be covering this bedroom. You're going to have some laughs. You're going to see it the same way. You're going to get along. Next thing you know, you're getting married. Just because of the setup here, Kyle.
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C
Well, sometimes the friends of dudes can be, like, drive a wedge in a certain way. Just, like, they don't share the same values of the girl or whatever. But you're like, this guy's harmless. He sleeps on the floor. You know, his hamper's a Trader Joe's bag.
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A
Like, harmless, though, there feels like a bit of Rambo first blood vibes to this room. Okay, all right. Well, I don't know that I'd call him harmless.
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C
Well, like, you can sell it, like, so, you know, rustic used to be old. Or, you know, you know, old used to be bad, and now it's rustic. Maybe you can drink, dress it up in a certain sort of bohemian way. I don't know.
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A
That's an FBI watch list set up.
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D
He's got too much stuff, though. I'm trying to look in the closet. Like, he's got.
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C
Maybe you can try to get him, like, some storage stuff that he would use.
- [93:34]
A
Maybe there's, like, draw.
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C
How about a bench that opens up. We could put shit in the bench. There you go.
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A
Then what's he gonna do? He doesn't have room for a bench in there. That's where he's at.
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C
No, that whole left side, just like. It's a bench. It's a skinny one, but it does open up. Has some storage. He could sit on it instead of that chair, you know, Think of it.
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A
That's what Christmas is coming. Bench for Life.
- [93:55]
C
See what IKEA's got cooking up?
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A
No one can draw, right on the show.
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D
No, definitely not.
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A
Terrible.
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C
I can't believe how bad I am at it, actually.
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A
I bet you worgon could draw.
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C
No doubt.
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A
No.
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C
No doubt in my mind.
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A
Such a good drawer.
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D
Especially Disney characters.
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C
But he drew that tattoo he got.
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A
He was the best.
- [94:19]
D
Miss that guy.
- [94:21]
A
What do you think he's doing right now?
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D
I know what he's doing right now.
- [94:24]
C
Practicing for a marathon.
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A
He's probably just sniffing coffee beans and singing a show tune, you know, but, like, in a manly way. Yeah. Then he's probably drawing. He's probably looking out of this window wherever he is in Manhattan, and he's like, look at that willow tree. He's like, what if it could speak? Next thing you know, fucking Pixar gets involved. Just.
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D
Just sketching.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
- [94:50]
D
Long strokes.
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A
The key to willow trees, Worgon says, is they've got to be sad. Fuck. All right, that'll do it for the show today. Thanks to Cerutty. Thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Jonathan Frias.
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C
Thanks to Wargon too, dude.
- [95:08]
A
Yeah, thanks to Oregon. Yeah, whatever he's doing, probably something cool. The Ryan Rasula podcast is on YouTube and of course, our Spotify app. Ryan Rasula podcast is part of Bringer Spotify.
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D
They were gonna name me Michael Jordan. My dad was like, I don't think.
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C
He can live up to it.
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