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The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Are the Steelers Really Contenders? Plus, Indiana–Ohio State Picks and How Many Teams Can Win the Title With Brady Quinn.
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Ryan Russillo
Today's episode we'll take a look at Thursday Night Football and a win for the Browns, but more importantly, a win for Jameis Winston in a win with the public. I'll explain. Brady Quinn. We get into it. He is at the shoe this weekend for Ohio State and Indiana. Who is he picking? Am I fair unfair about my schedule complaints? And then we get into Notre Dame and a bunch of different stuff. Just taking a look at the college football landscape. It's going to be awesome. We've got our alliance. Yep. Still letting me do it. And we've got life advice. This episode is brought to you by Chevy. Great football teams are built by having the right capability in the right positions. It's the same with great trucks like the Chevy Silverado. You start under the hood with four powerful engine choices delivering massive towing capacity. Then you've got available onboard technology that gives you extra peace of mind while towing. Finally, the rugged, purposeful design of the Silverado screams grit and determination just like a winning football team. Visit Chevy.com to learn more. This episode is brought to you by Prime Video. Black Friday football is back, and it's only on Prime Video. This Friday, the Las Vegas Raiders take on the Kansas City Chiefs. It's an old school rivalry for a new game day. Coverage begins at 1:30pm Eastern with kickoff at 3pm Eastern. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial and you can cancel at any time. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details. Okay, a little football open for you last night on the Browns win against the Steelers. All right, so I want to talk about Jamis because everybody loves this guy right now. I don't know what that is. I don't know if it's the comeback story. I don't know if it's not having expectations for him. I'll admit some of the quotes, like everybody seems to love them because they're so, so weird. And I kind of feel like it's this one guy in our friend group that's decided to dance. Now. He just dances in a room and kind of looks at you while he dances. And I'm like, what am I supposed to do? I don't want to dance with you. And he just kind of looks at you. Another guys are like, what's going on over there? I'm like, I don't know. He just keeps dancing and he's looking at me and I want to leave. Maybe it's not that bad with the Jameis quotes, but the Browns get the win against the Steelers team that I actually feel better about after the Baltimore win, right? Like I was a little dismissive. Great defense, not going to trust Russell Wilson. They beat Baltimore, felt much better about them. They almost come back last night. Spirit to their toughness. I actually, as much as I like the Baltimore win, I don't knock them a ton for a loss against the Browns. It's a division thing. It's the conditions. Kind of like the Browns last night a little bit there as well. Just coming in kind of one of those NFL head to head things. I do think it's kind of interesting though, like in college football, be like, well, they wanted to head to head. It's kind of like, well, what's the point of playing if we're not going to look at the head to head? The NFL has a little of that, but I mean sometimes you're just going to lose to inferior teams. And in basketball, if the Hawks beat the Celtics, nobody's like, well dude, they won the head to head, so it's their East. Dan Orlovsky over at ESPN caused a bit of a ruckus just by saying he didn't think that Pittsburgh was a Super bowl contender and that you couldn't live on field goals despite the fact that they lived on field goals in that Baltimore game. But I agree with him. Like, I get his point. Like it worked, but they haven't been really good in the red zone. Better last night. I think it really has to more, more to do with the AFC landscape of quarterbacks where if you're looking at Russell Wilson against all those other dudes and be like, are they going to win three games and get out of the afc? So I got his point. So I still feel fine about Pittsburgh again. Even better after Baltimore and then the toughness angle of all of this. Cleveland's interesting because I wasn't picking him because of the defense. Because the defense statistically across the board is really pretty bad. They're now 27th in opposing yards per play. But the defense is connected to the offense. And the offense for Cleveland has been so historically bad that I think eventually, even if you like the defensive personnel, it just starts to suffer. I have an example where the defense is connected to the offense. Let's bring it back to Jamis. We know he's the number one pick in 2015. Five year starter in Tampa in 2019. He throws 30 picks. The starting field position for the defense was consistently compromised. They were 29th in scoring defense. Brady comes in, they win the Super Bowl. A lot of the Same roster, eighth in scoring defense. It's connected. So back to Jamis in his journey of likability, unlikability. New Orleans, I think people started to like him again. Man, that was a lot of picks in 19. But he was there four years, 10 starts, kind of in and out, obviously gets hurt, celebrates in crutches, starts doing more quotes, eating dubs. You're like, what is going on with this guy? He goes to Cleveland. There's no way anybody was going to like him less than desean Watson. So maybe that was part of it. But he's the backup again. Then he was actually the third string behind dtr. When Watson tears his Achilles a month ago against Cincinnati, Watson actually is out. DTR comes in, he hurts his finger. So Winston actually was third on the depth chart if you go back and look at that week. So here we are with Winston now, four starts in, he's got the Baltimore win. But you knew that almost death spiral pick was coming and it did. Hamilton dropped it. Three interceptions the next week against the Chargers. He throws for 395 on Sunday against New Orleans, but they were 3 of 13 on third downs. They were 1 of 10 on third downs last night, but they converted all four fourth downs they went for. But last night as this, this comeback story is building for the Browns and everybody's kind of feeling good about it. He's out there battling, helmet gets broken and the thing's dangling on the two point conversion. It's like, man, is this kind of like a career comeback story or a Thursday night comeback story for Jamis? It felt like everybody was kind of celebrating it until Jamis started doing Jamis things again. The fumble and then the interception on the third down throw. We're on the second down throw. Prior to the third down interception, he almost threw like the second down throw, like, oh, here we go, like that was the appetizer and then we got the real thing. But they went ahead with the game winning drive. And when I think about Jamis and his popularity now, which again, I don't think has ever been higher, I don't know what it is. I mean, I have theories. Could it be that he's just not desean Watson? That's probably a good place to start. Could it be that we have no expectations for him? So now it's not, hey, is this number one pick, the guy for the next 10 years or hey, it's just fun to see him out there because you have no idea what's going to happen good or bad. And then he's going to say something that's just crazy. That would be really crazy if it were his first year. You'd be like what's wrong with this guy? But there's a couple different rules that apply here. Like sometimes you can talk about the branding of something, whether it's branding of a college football team or the branding of somebody talking for a living, right? Like sometimes I'll watch Paul George and think is he Tobias Harris with better branding? That's entirely unfair to Paul George. But I think you get my point with Jameis. I'm not sure what that is. I don't know what that contemporary is other than he benefits again from no one really caring what he is long term anymore and that you just know it's going to be fun for three hours. And the Charles Barkley rule applies. If you are yourself long enough, everyone else will catch up. And certainly that's the case with the Jameis post game experience. Sometimes in basketball 30 points could be worth more than 30 points. And now you can get a 30% profit boost from the Ringer with Fanduels 30 on 30 during Friday's NBA cup action. That's right. 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Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer, availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. Okay, I'm excited about this. Good to catch up with him again. From Fox Sports, part of the college football season coverage, it's Brady Quinn. Also part of Big Noon Kickoff, which I watch every Saturday live from Columbus this week for the big top five matchup this Saturday between Indiana and Ohio State on Fox. Brady Quinn and the guys for pregame coverage from the shoe beginning at 10am Eastern on Fox. All right, man, let's do it all. What's up? How are you?
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Brady Quinn
I'm doing well. I do well. When I hear you read that though, I feel like you said the big top five matchup is like how you won. You didn't say it that way. In regards to maybe Indiana and Where their ranking should be or should not be.
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Ryan Russillo
All right, so let's just start there because I know I was shocked how big of a deal that thing became. I have a general thought on the expansion of the conferences messing up this. Two teams within the same conference having two entirely different experiences based on the scheduling because there's too many teams and then expanding it out to 12, that I just think there's going to be seasons where you'll have a team who hasn't done anything. If 12 and O Indiana, which would be 13 and oh or 12 and one with a loss to Oregon, if that exists on the resume, that it's entirely different conversation. But yeah, with them at five not playing anybody, I just have a hard time with that. I would have a hard time with any school. 10 games in having that kind of resume and being the fifth team in the country. That's it.
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Brady Quinn
And look, I think you could make the case maybe about Texas too. Like, as you look at their schedule, what's their quality win? I mean, that's the tough one. Are we saying it's Vanderbilt and Vandy because Vandy's better this year? Are you saying it's Michigan at Michigan when we know Michigan's down? We saw Indiana beat them to a little closer game, but still, like, comparatively speaking, I mean, I don't know. They don't have that, like, huge quality win on their resume either. So I think that's a tough part. Like, and that's a tough job for the committee. Because if you look at that committee right now, Ryan, I feel like they're more basing things off of, like, who they've lost to. Like, that's how they're kind of ranking some of this, maybe of Notre Dame because they might have the worst loss of any team within the top 20, for that matter. That being said, they've kicked the crap out of pretty much everyone else that they've played and they did go on the road to open the season at bdnm. I think this is the hardest part about the conversations in regards to bias. Like, we all have bias. I'll be the first to tell you. I look at Georgia and they have two losses right now. And I think you and I would both say we've watched them this year a lot. And when I break down the tape, I go, that team on its best day is still the best team in the country. Unfortunately, we've seen two circumstances where they have not played their best games and lost. We've seen other times where they've struggled at times and they haven't played up to their capabilities. I mean their receivers and pass catchers, you know, by and large have to me dropped the ball literally and figuratively for them this season where they have not helped out Carson back. He shouldered a lot of the plan. That being said, part of my bias is based on what I've seen to do in the past. I think that's the tough part for a team like Indiana because we look at them and we're like, well, they've been a doormat with the exception of maybe like one season in recent history. And so we don't want to buy into what Trip Signetti has built. The fact that you could take a bunch of James Madison players and bring them up to the Big Ten and be competitive right away. But that's what they've been because outside of the close game versus Michigan, they beat the crap out of everyone too. I mean we've watched them in the shoe where Ohio State played Nebraska and I watched in Bloomington, Indiana play Nebraska. And I'll put it this way, man, Indiana was much more dominant start to finish in that game versus Nebraska than Ohio State was. So we can get into the nuances of comparing teams at this point. I think your point about the conferences is better, best taken because there's just so many that this is going to happen more often moving forward where you have 18 teams, you're going to get a team that plays seven of what, the eight worst teams in the Big Ten. Like that's going to happen. Now we didn't know that Michigan being the defending champs would be down. We didn't know Washington being the runner up would be down the way they are. They're dramatically different teams from where they were. But the likelihood of that sort of schedule happening is much more likely now with these bigger conferences. So I would preach to this, like can we all play the same amount of conference games? Like can we just ask that of the SEC play nine games like the Big Ten does? And then could we ask maybe some of these teams to not schedule FCS teams for non conference and not schedule some of these other teams? Because if you're going to get the benefit of the doubt for the conference parody and the SEC being supposedly the most parody competitive conference, then let's go ahead and make the scheduling more equal so we can at least have more of an apples to apples comparison. That's the only thing I'd ask at this point.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, look, I mean I always get blamed of being this SEC homer despite going to Vermont, but My thing is.
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Brady Quinn
A lot of you Vermont people just before the sec, apparently, I'll tell you.
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Ryan Russillo
If there was a state that was like the south and the north that you could make some arguments about once, once you're outside of Burlington, it, it probably reminds some people of the South. It's just colder. But I can only go by like, you know, you talk about these, these carryover things. I don't know who does this job without some assumptions from previous success.
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Brady Quinn
Right.
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Ryan Russillo
Like, to me, it's impossible. Like, you can pretend you're not doing it. Like, I'll never forget. I don't know if you'll remember or not, but it was Doug Le Maurice who used to be an AP vote. He, he may still be okay. And I bring him up as. There's nothing critical about it. It's. I remember there was like a Houston win in the very beginning of the season and he just put like Houston number two or three and his whole premise that he was trying to re rank every week without any preconceived notion. And I was like, that is so admirable. Like, good for him. He's resetting the deck every Sunday night and then he's sending in his vote. But the only reason you would take a team and move them from like, not ranked to rank really high was because that you're really impressed with the preconceived notion of the team that they've beat. So it's still all connected. So, like, when I look at Texas and I watch a lot, like, I don't. I watch them and go, I think they're really good. I know Georgia kicked their ass. Which also speaks to your Georgia point, because I don't know that there's many teams that would have gone into Texas and did to them what the, what they did to that O line. But if you're comparing Texas, because this got thrown at me a lot, it's like, well, how come you don't like Washington and Michigan? It's like, do we really have to go through the exercise of why Texas conversations is different than Michigan and Washington when there's overhaul and they already have a million losses? Where Texas, if you're bringing back the O line, the quarterback, the coaching staff, all of the receivers, the real only starting turnover is the guys on the defensive line. We know how well regarded so many of the other position guys are as far as their defense. Like, I don't think that's some crazy assumption, despite your valid points about their, about their schedule. I mean, it's just tough to get to 12 teams, because if you go through it, you'd be like, okay, well Notre, you know, you can play that game. What about Penn State? I mean, at least Penn State has, I guess, the Illinois win and an out of conference thing here with West Virginia, where I always feel like West Virginia is at least a competitive opponent.
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Brady Quinn
No, and that's fair. I think the same argument you're making, though, for how different Michigan and Washington are this year, which is what I would say to any Indiana fan, it's like, well, look who we've beat so far as these quality wins. It's like, dude, there's different head coaches, they're different quarterbacks. It's different rosters. It's entirely different Washington's.
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Ryan Russillo
I mean, anybody that throws the. How come you don't like Washington versus, like, dude, that's a, that's a different organization now. But I'm sorry to interrupt it, but it's so obvious. I don't even know why I'm explaining it.
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Brady Quinn
But Michigan is too, right? Like, it's not Jim Harbaugh. You don't have J.J. mcCarthy. You have a slew of other players who aren't there anymore. They, they had a dramatic, you know, turnover on their roster to what's out there playing now, too. So I, I think, I think that's your counter argument to that. But I would also then say, well, so is Indiana, like, outside of maybe Colorado, like, Indiana's the next team. You look at the roster and say, well, they're not the same team they were last year either. And Curtis Rourke has been incredible within the system. And all the other, you know, playmakers they've got on the outside, the kids who stepped up, the kids who came from James Madison, like, so you kind of can't look at them with the same bias you had in the past because it's not your same Indiana team that you're accustomed to seeing. Like, when I watch them on film, I keep coming away. And I, I said this earlier in the season. We said it before the Nebraska game. After watching the Nebraska game and watching, you know, after watching versus Michigan, I'm like, they're just a really well coached team. Like, of all the teams that I've watched this year, Indiana's got to be like, top two or three as far as, like, everyone feels like they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. Like, you don't watch the tape and say, well, there's a blatant miscue. Like the, like some of the other lines going the wrong way. There's a miscommunication or there's a missed assignment here. You just don't really see that like they play very solid, sound, fundamental football in every capacity. Now the teams they've played have, they have. They've been beating, you know, some of the best in the Big Ten or the best in the country in the non conference. Of course not. But I think they've earned a right to be able to play for that. And they'll get a chance to, I think if they beat Ohio State, obviously, or if they keep this thing close. And I'm okay with that because I don't want to take away from. And I guess the reason why I'm making an analogy, I want to compare to the March Madness look. It's way more teams, but percentage wise, as far as how many basketball teams there are versus how many actually are up for potential, a bid to the tournament and then same thing like the 12 out of 134, which really, it's not really 134. Like the group of five. You have so many, so many less opportunities, just one spot. So if we're looking at it from that standpoint, it's kind of fair. And like, I don't want to take away from what could be a team like TCU who has this magical run. Maybe that's Indiana this year and where everyone's questioned the whole season, they're like, are they good enough? Have they played a tough enough of schedule? Look, dude, they got to the national championship game. Like there's room for that. I know they got blown out by Georgia. Obviously they didn't play their best game, but that's port of college sports. Like we should allow for these Cinderella stories to take place and not sit there and kind of scoff at them because of what their schedules look like. They didn't make the schedule and they sure as hell didn't make the schedule to look the way it does. And all they've done is dominated for the most part, with the exception of their win versus Michigan, where it was a little bit tighter.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I mean, I've heard the TCU point and I didn't have any issue with it at all. And when you compare that with what Indiana's doing, they beat 18th, Oklahoma, 19th Kansas, number eight, Oklahoma State, number 17, Kansas State. They beat number 18, Texas. Indiana doesn't have any of that stuff now. Look, 12 and O, Indiana, 12 and 1 don't care. They're in totally fine with it. 11 and 1. I would have an issue with. But then again, it's 11 and 1. It's not an evacuate compared to what other options I know probably I'd have to see the rest of it play out. Like, who knows? We're due for a couple weird upsets. The A and M Auburn spread makes me think like, what the hell's going on? We know the Bama Auburn game is like the weirdest game. Even when one looks like a powerhouse or whenever it's even, you never know what's going on there. Like, we're due for a couple high pressure spots here. But I, I want to stay on Indiana in the matchup with Ohio State and kind of see where you're going with it because you're right. Like, I've watched probably what, three full games of them. Rourke's been incredible. Ellison's Washington game, you just, you're like this guy, you're watching him and you're thinking like, what was he doing at Wake? Then Kamara, the D lineman, I think was the Michigan State game I was watching. So, you know, he comes over. James Madison. Kurt has done a really, really good job with this group, but it's a funny Ohio State matchup because normally you'd think, okay, with their talent, they're just going to, they can do whatever they want. But they're down the 20 lineman. We know we don't trust their running game. I don't think they necessarily even trust their running game. So it's not like they're going to just line up and power, you know, little Indiana around because they haven't really done that to many teams at all. So let's go with it. Like, who are you picking in this one?
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Brady Quinn
Well, I'm picking Ohio State and it's because I, I think that the weakness for Ohio State that we talked about, the offensive line and due to the injuries, is still something that I think they can overcome. And Chip Kelly is, I have a ton of respect for as, as an offensive mind and play caller where he's just not going to allow that to beat them. And if you look at like their ability to get the ball to Jeremiah Smith and Mecca Buka, those guys in space, Ryan Day, Chip Kelly always find ways in big games to do that. So I'm fully expecting that. And I think what it's going to come down to is, especially if Ohio State jumps on that early, a couple big, big plays here or there, it's going to force Indiana into an uncomfortable position. I mean, for the longest time, they never trailed this season. And so when you, you're not really accustomed to dealing with that, having to come back from it, especially on the road in that environment, that becomes pretty difficult. But I think the only, the only way Indiana wins this game is if defensively they find a way of mixing up a lot of the fronts and the different pressures or even types of pressures they kind of faint and look and then back out of just to force more pressure on Carson Hinsman at center, Sarah Veld at the left guard spot, and then obviously Donovan Jackson. Because when we go back to the Ohio State, Penn State game, and one of the things that, you know, Ryan Day talked to us about, about why they put Hinsman next to Donovan Jackson and made that switch then, was because of the experience those two had together last year. It was the communication from the center to the left guard. And they wanted to replicate that again with Hinsman a left guard and then Donovan Jackson left tackle. And that's powerful. Like, these are things that are nuances to the game that we don't always talk about on TV or even on a podcast. And they're, it's important, especially for those guys up front. Well, now you've got a less experienced guy who's in between. And, you know, Hinsman was playing much better at guard than he was last year at center. That's why Seth McLaughlin was in the first place, or they went and got him. And if you look at the splits too, which is really interesting to me, up until that Penn State game, they were almost 50, 50 as far as the rush attempts based on direction, left or right. After they put in Hinsman and Donovan Jackson, they actually increased the amount. Almost 20% more of the rushes were to the left, to that side, which is kind of interesting to think. You have two guys who are kind of playing out of position and yet you're leaning on them more in this instance. So I think if they find a way, if Indiana finds a way of forcing more pressure on those guys before the steps, stemming the front, you know, mugging up some of those linebackers, showing them variations of a bare front, a four down front, all these different looks to them, I think that can maybe slow down some of that, that success they'll have running the football, some of their ability to protect, too. I think Will Howard under pressure has struggled at times this year. So I would not be shocked at all if Kurt Signetti, kind of knowing his personality too, doesn't throw a little bit more of pressure and a variety of looks at him to see how he handles that but the scary thing is, is like you got to be careful because you put Jeremiah Smith in space or one on one or Mecca Buka, the game changes like that. And then I think on the flip side, they're going to have to find a way of creating some big plays. Indiana loves back, back shoulders. They look back shoulders because they don't have elite speed like Oregon did. Right? Like you go back to Evan Stewart and you're going, holy cow. Like, where was this guy up until that game that season for Oregon? Now he's blossoming and really kind of showed out. That was where Denzel Burke struggled. That's where the secondary for struggle versus Ohio State. Indiana does not have that type of speed. And that's one of the reasons why you see them constantly with a guy on their hip and they're kind of thrown to that back shoulder. Like I, you know, I was at Notre Dame. This is not disrespecting. A lot of the guys I threw to, they are taller, bigger wide receivers. Similar fashion, like, give them a 50, 50 ball, give them a back shoulder. Something where they plays to their advantage. Indiana is going to have to hit on those and be successful at those. And that's going to be tough to do versus Denzel Burke and Ignos State.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I think you nailed it because, like, even when you're going up against Ohio State. And by the way, like, I love the Nebraska thing because it's close enough to go, okay, is this a hint? Is this like, are we falling for the brands again here that Indiana is incapable. I wish this game were in Bloomington. I mean, I really wish this game were in Bloomington. Just to add the other layer of like, you know, they're going to, they're going to find a way to pull this off. But what I see when I see Ohio State play this year is like, oh, hey, we got him on first down. Or hey, we include we confused Will on second. Or they got stuffed on two run plays. It's like, okay, now we're just going to throw it deep on the outside. You know, like the Northwestern game is hilarious because it's up 7 nothing. I mean, nobody thinks the Northwest is going to pull it off. And then it's just five possessions in a row. We're going to thank God to the rest of the country that they can't consistently run the football with like, power because if they had that element to them, then I don't think I'd pick anybody against that football team.
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Brady Quinn
It's so weird to me too. And granted, there's obviously a rationale for it. I think, again, Chip Kelly is one of the smartest guys. When you sit down and talk to him about ball, like, he completely gets it. You know, I get. People need to get rid of the preconceived notions, which, whatever you think of his first time at, you know, Philadelphia or whatever, but they actually run more counter than they do power. And I'm always like, it never makes any sense to me. I mean, I've watched my cousin's high school football team and they run counter all day, but then they don't run power. And I'm like, dude, power is your base play. And then you have counter off of that. You can't just run a counter without showing power to the front side or the strength of the formation. Like, it doesn't make any conceptual.
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Ryan Russillo
But doesn't that tell us something?
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Brady Quinn
It tells you a lot of things, but I'm not going to get into that. I don't want to air out my. My cousin's high school coach. But the general point is they've run more counter than they have power this year. And then for, again, maybe leaning. They feel like that's the better side as far as getting some of those gaps. Gap schemes involved. Could be a matchup. There's a lot of reasons for it. I. I want to. I want to pick out this, though, about Will Howard. He has really grown to feel a lot more comfortable within this system and how he's seeing some of these windows. Early on this season, it was entirely different. I felt like at times he was holding on to the football. He wasn't letting it go. There were three different examples that I was kind of combing through his throws this past week. And I could definitively show you, like, dude, this is anticipation. Like, this is like NFL level. Like, here's the zone coverage, here's what the window is. Boom. And he puts it out there and the guys are running right through it. He threw into Omeka, he threw on to Jeremiah Smith, and he had a nice seam ball up to G. Scott, too, for a big gain. Was very kind of similar of like, that's the sort of timing and rhythm. He's starting to really feel really comfortable within the passing game of this offense. And that's a scary thing for Indiana because you don't want to play a ton of man to man versus this crew. So then if you play zone, you try to protect those corners and play more too high. I mean, he's getting to the point where I think Will Howard's starting to play his best football. And I think he can start to maybe pick you apart with some of the concepts they've, they've implemented in.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, I want to get to some other stuff there. So it sounds, look, it sounds like we're both picking Ohio State here, but it's a respectful from you. I, I don't think anyone, any Hoosiers fans are going to think them respectful about the program. But is Notre Dame good, man?
- [29:06]
Brady Quinn
I, I do. I think they are good. I think the, the hard thing is, is you question like, how does that happen against Northern Illinois? And it's a, it's obviously a fair question, but when you take into account like, hey dude, it's your season opener, that it's, it's a tough pill to swallow and it's, it's a team that's what, seventh in the Mac right now. Like, they've really struggled too.
- [29:27]
Ryan Russillo
And it wasn't fluky like watch game. Like they just gashed him.
- [29:31]
Brady Quinn
Like, what's going on? I can give you a lot of reasons as to like my concerns, right, of like, you know, hey, it's, it's the David Goliath. Like it's the season opener. Yeah, you should be running out of that tunnel with your head on fire. But it's also not like I remember our, you know, you know, season openers. Like my freshman year we played Washington State, top 25 matchup. My sophomore year we played for our home opener, Michigan. I think game day was there. It was like a top five matchup. My junior year we played, we were on the road for two games. We came back, maybe played Michigan State or someone. Like they were bigger matchups. These were guys that like, you were got. We were recruited with or against all this stuff that it just, it felt different. It's hard, I think, to get, you know, psyched up sometimes for like that Mac opponent. Even though that shouldn't be the mindset. They should be saying we're going to go stomp a mud hole and then I'm going to go stat pad if I'm a quarterback to try to get my numbers up there versus these teams. But it did happen and maybe it didn't because of, you know, the offensive system, you know, some moving parts in the offensive line and everything else that goes along with it. I mean, obviously the defense kept at a low scoring game. I thought they did enough. It's the offense not coming along. I also just simply chalk it up to this. These are 18 to 22, maybe 24 year olds now. I mean, held Cam McCormick's like, almost 30 at Miami. But my general point is there's a lot of volatility there. Like, when you look at your floor and ceiling, I think in college it's like a lot wider than is the NFL. And that was one of those games that it's. It's hard to not look at and go, well, we don't want that performance in the playoff. But it's also not the entire book on this team. If you look at everything else they've done, like, the Anam win looks better and better. And then you look at some of the other wins they've had, they've been dominant. I mean, not even. These teams haven't even been close. I don't think army is going to be even close. I think they're going to beat the crap out of usc. So if that, if that's the case, then, like, are they good? Yeah, I think they're really good. I just think they happen to have probably one of the worst days that we've seen for a team in Notre Dame Stadium ever. And that's. That happens.
- [31:36]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. Look, I know the answer to it is you're good. It's kind of back to the Indiana thing. Like, we can talk schedule all you want. To win 10 straight games is. Is still hard because of the Northern Illinois, the Northern Illinois example that we have. And maybe it's coming off the A and M thing, because I thought that A and M game was just a grind, man. And then I thought they lost the game late. Like, I was like, okay, this is. The momentum has swung. You know, this is not going to work out for this team opening night, see what they can do with the rest of the schedule. It's funny because a lot of the arguments, like whether it's about Indiana or it's about, like, some of the arguments end up being the same and you can just replace the name of the team and be like, okay, well, we have to come up with 12 teams. Okay, we have to come up with 12. We can't put in nine SEC teams. That's against the rules.
- [32:21]
Brady Quinn
Eight. Right. Because you're going to have those four that are a part of it. Based on the four. Right. You know, highest ranked conference champs. So we really have to come up with eight. And I think it's hard to come up with those eight because. Because of the language. Like, you have a scenario where like, Boise State, I think, would have had maybe the buy this week or they would have the.
- [32:38]
Ryan Russillo
Boise State has the buy because they're ahead of the Big 12 right now. And that's the kind of thing. But seriously, like, when that plays out, if that were to happen, then I think the committee in all of college football goes, maybe we don't want that. Maybe we don't want to be that inclusive.
- [32:53]
Brady Quinn
I also go back and forth, Ryan, about the automatic bids per conference. I know that's been a topic of conversation. Something like the sec, Big Ten, wanted to kind of like, guarantee that. And there's a part of me that thinks, like, yeah, that's actually. I know it becomes a little bit predictable, but we have that in the NFL. And then B, it actually strengthens the regular season. Like, college football has always been a regular season sport if you really go through the history of it. Right. Like Notre dame celebrating their 100th anniversary of their first consensus national championship back in 1924, where they stomped on army or beat army that year, went and defeated, obviously, the Four Horsemen. They're part of that legendary story. But if you go back through, like, how we decided who was the national champion, it was like, you know, ap, it's like, oh, voted play. This team looks like they're the best.
- [33:36]
Ryan Russillo
And just the apes go through it, man. I mean, there's all sorts of dudes handing out titles.
- [33:41]
Brady Quinn
That's the thing is you have like three teams who claimed a title in, like, certain years.
- [33:44]
Ryan Russillo
So we've obviously, I think Princeton has a couple where they went one and one.
- [33:48]
Brady Quinn
Right, right. Of course, like, they'll go ahead and, you know, they don't want the national champion that or claim it. But the general point is we've come, you know, such a long way from, like, kind of where we were at the same point. There's like, still those elements of. It was about the regular season back then, even as we build up to the BCS and even the 14 playoff, like, I don't want us to lose fact. The fact of, like, this still being the fun part about the season is, you know, the regular season, some of these different matchups we get between conferences and regions, et cetera. And I think the bigger the playoff gets and the more focus there's on the playoff, the less there is on some of those matchups. Having some of those automatic kind of bids might protect a little bit of that where teams say, I know if I schedule a bunch of really tough non conference opponents, it doesn't matter because in the end, as long as I win throughout my conference, based on my conference play, I will get one of those automatic bids into the playoff. And that's ultimately what we're shooting for.
- [34:44]
Ryan Russillo
Okay. You have a team. See, you know, I think we're more aligned here than maybe people would think before we started talking. Because I don't like that. It's like, well, I think Georgia would beat everybody. And it's like, okay, but eventually we.
- [34:55]
Brady Quinn
Got to play the games, right?
- [34:56]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. The losses have to cost something. I ranked Georgia ahead of Indiana and Penn State in my completely irrelevant top 12. But I don't like the default of, well, Georgia would beat all these teams and Tennessee would beat all these teams and Bama beat all these teams. Like, I think if you get Bama on the right weekend of Milroe not having a good game, like we've already seen it. We've already seen it happen a couple times and almost happened a third time against South Carolina. So again, I think we are a bit more aligned here. But it's just the chance. Maybe it's just me having to get caught up to the whole thing because I think as you said, it being generally a regular season sport, that you gotta show me one thing for me to feel like you're worthy of playing for a national championship.
- [35:40]
Brady Quinn
Right.
- [35:40]
Ryan Russillo
I think that that's a really big deal and that's a big time invite and the ACC being what it is this year and then the Big 12 because there's even a little of the Big 10 scheduling thing going on in the Big 12. Or if you look at Arizona State and Colorado who are clearly. I mean, Arizona State's not even comparable to last year. And the same thing for Colorado. It's just that when you have maybe the best quarterback in college football, you should be a good football team. But there's some scheduling stuff going on there where you're like, okay, I guess Arizona State is now in the mix and control of what's coming forward to them. Do you feel like there's a definitive list though, of like, if this team won a national championship, it's not a surprise. Is it Oregon? Is it Ohio State? Is it Georgia? Does the list stop after that? How long would that list be for you? Or I'm like, I can't believe that team won a title.
- [36:27]
Brady Quinn
I would throw Texas in there. As said, those four, I think are pretty definitive. And if, if I had to go look at the odds or you know, that I think those would probably be the four top favorites.
- [36:39]
Ryan Russillo
You're probably right. I mean, I can look it up while we're doing this, but I think you nailed it.
- [36:43]
Brady Quinn
Like, like Bam. Bama would be probably Part of it, but that's like a little bit of like the, you know, bias of, of what that team is.
- [36:49]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, but, but yeah.
- [36:51]
Brady Quinn
So to your point, any, anyone after those four, you kind of go, yeah, be surprising. Like, the way Miami was able to remain undefeated for a period of time was surprising. It's like, okay, but there's always those, you know, Cinderella seasons and where you kind of, you know, have that team of destiny that ends up finding their way. And then maybe Miami would be that team or maybe there's someone else you throw in the conversation. But I would say outside of those four, I'd be very surprised if someone else won the national championship. But we don't know how the extended playoff is going to play. You know, maybe a team gets hot, you know, getting to host a home playoff game and move through that. But to one of the points that you made, though, I would say this is one of the restructures I'd love to see out of scheduling from here moving forward, since basically anything outside of the College Football Playoff, those bowl games have become irrelevant. So why don't we sit there and say, let's take those conference affiliations, move them to the non conference schedule or portion of the beginning of the season and start playing neutral side games with those bull sites. Like, like, why can't we do that? And it's so one, it creates way bigger anticipation for those matchups because it's early in the season, everything's still on the line for both those teams. You don't get the opt out issue that we're going to have because the transfer portal or the NFL, and it gives those sponsors, those venues an opportunity to live somewhere. And I get there's an economic play to all of this, but there always isn't board games anyway. So that would be to me a better way of us preserving, like some of these, like when you're saying, like, show me you beat someone or show me you played someone, there you go. Like, there's your example of how to do it from a business standpoint, but also a scheduling standpoint of how we could make it work. And I don't know why more of these Bulls, especially the ones outside of what was the New Year six that are a part of this, the College Football Playoff. I don't know why they're not thinking about this or saying like, let's go find a place where we can live for the foreseeable future. Whereas right now it feels like a lot of those Bulls are starting to kind of pass by the Wayside?
- [38:47]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. I mean, you could argue they're lucky they're even involved in this anymore because they're what held this up forever. But I like what you say. If it meant more marquee games, it'd be great. But if I'm an athletic director or I'm a coach with a lot of juice, I think we're learning once again that the committee doesn't really care about your schedule. Like, I don't know that I would. I don't know that I would ever schedule. I don't think I'd go out of my way to schedule anybody with what I'm seeing again this year as of right now.
- [39:15]
Brady Quinn
Yes. But I do think the other committee does two things. Like right now they're kind of grading some teams based on their losses. Whatever. I don't think they care about anything until the event. I think ultimately that's fine. They allow the schedule to set up, for example, because this, this doesn't necessarily play to, like, ESPN's Advantage, but it plays to every TV network that has these top matchups. Like, we can bill and sell Ohio State, Indiana as a top five matchup, even though you don't feel like Indiana is a top five team right now. Right. But that's the billing, that's the intrigue, that's the anticipation. And that's good for college football. It's good for the Big Ten Conference. It's good for those teams and players. So there's an element, I think, of the scheduling where they kind of manipulate the rankings a little bit to help with their decision making at the very end, if that makes sense. Like, I really don't care as much about the rankings till the final two because I think the one before that conference championship weekend gives you a much more accurate idea of how they feel about those fringe teams because they're going to position those fringe teams in a spot where they will get bumped by a team that may very well have three losses that loses in the SEC championship game.
- [40:24]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, that's a whole nother layer to it because I really hope that the committee, I would like to see them recognize a team in the conference championship game more so than a team that doesn't. But we've already seen that play out. Whether it was the BCS system, whether it was the four team system, where, you know, the Big 12 for years probably felt like the championship game hosed them.
- [40:43]
Brady Quinn
Yeah.
- [40:43]
Ryan Russillo
So then they didn't want it and then it was just like, well, whatever, everybody's doing it. So then they bring the Whole thing back again.
- [40:49]
Brady Quinn
Well, it was more the one, the tcu, Baylor, it was like the slogan was like one true champion and they couldn't even figure it out. They did like a tie break scenario.
- [40:59]
Ryan Russillo
Do you remember because Briles was on the podium.
- [41:02]
Brady Quinn
Yeah.
- [41:02]
Ryan Russillo
With the Big 12 commissioner and he was just, because they Big 12's like a statement was like, yeah, they're both in like hoping that they're going to pull something off and, and you want to talk about brands and everything, like Baylor was right about it. They're just going, if this was Texas and Oklahoma, you wouldn't have done this.
- [41:15]
Brady Quinn
Right.
- [41:16]
Ryan Russillo
And that's, that's really hard for me to sit here.
- [41:18]
Brady Quinn
And the unfortunate part was Ohio State leaps up from what, six to four, if I'm not mistaken, and they end up winning the whole thing. So then you're going, oh, no. Like maybe they were right the whole way. Right. They could have justified the committee's decision.
- [41:31]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I remember like back when Van Pelt and I were kind of like we were on the phone, I don't even think we did the segment. And he was like, there's no way Ohio State, if they win this is being left out in favor of this Baylor TCU thing because again, the Baylor TCU thing was weird because it was one of those classic, like one has the head to head, but the, but the other team has the worst loss. It's like, well, so you're going to be rewarded because your loss to us is better than our loss. And I mean it just gets, you end up kind of going in this circle where you kind of break your own rules and contradict yourself here a little bit. But I think the other, I don't.
- [42:04]
Brady Quinn
I hate it is. You know, there's times too when like you watch a team, they sell their starters into the fourth quarter. I'm like, dude, you're up by four scores. Like this game is out of hand. One, you're putting your players at risk to injury. And then two years, this is like the time you put in those younger guys who you want to see what you have in them in a real life game scenario. And I just, I don't see that anymore. When we talk to coaches, they're very well aware now of the numbers they need to get to or the fact that they need to win an impressive fashion, especially for those teams that feel like their resume isn't as strong or if they've got a loss, they've got to make up for that. So that's one thing that I've kind of hated about all of this is like, not that people are box score reading, but there's an element of that of like, well, how bad did you really beat that team? Like, what's your, your scoring margin or margin of victory? You know, how are we looking at the, you know, stats that go along with it? I do kind of hate that part of this whole process right now.
- [43:02]
Ryan Russillo
All right, I'll finish up here. Do you think Indiana is better than Penn State?
- [43:06]
Brady Quinn
I don't.
- [43:07]
Ryan Russillo
Okay.
- [43:08]
Brady Quinn
I've seen both, and I think that in large part comes to a couple of things. You know, I think both running backs at Penn State are better. I think the offensive line is probably a little bit better, too. Defensively, I think they are a. And look, we're going to find out this weekend. So I could be completely wrong, but I thought their ability to match up and their secondary is probably the weakest part, or I should say most inexperienced part of that group for Penn State this year. Coming in the season, I thought that that team matched up better with Ohio State than Indiana does. So, you know, look, tough, tough, tough comparison because Indiana's got to do it on the road. But like I said, I don't know how close this game will be when it's all said and done.
- [43:51]
Ryan Russillo
So you have 11 and one Indiana in.
- [43:55]
Brady Quinn
Yes, they'll be on the road, but they'd be in okay.
- [43:59]
Ryan Russillo
I likely would not. But then again, I still have to look at the other stuff that happens because any of us just chalking it out the next couple weeks in conference championship games would be a huge mistake that we've all made every single year. Before I let you go, are you as surprised as I am that our good friend Tommy Reese is not on an NFL roster?
- [44:19]
Brady Quinn
What do you mean?
- [44:20]
Ryan Russillo
As a quarterback, is he seasoned? Is he gotten?
- [44:24]
Brady Quinn
I mean, he's coaching. He's in Cleveland. He's the tight ends coach.
- [44:28]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I know, I know he is, but they're. They've had some health issues at quarterback there. I just, you know.
- [44:34]
Brady Quinn
Oh, come on.
- [44:34]
Ryan Russillo
I really liked him.
- [44:35]
Brady Quinn
I love Tommy, but shoot. I mean, I'm a big advocate for Jamis. Like, not just watching what he did on Thursday night, but I thought before the season, I'm looking at a team like Las Vegas. I'm like, wait a second. Like, you could trade for this dude. Like, why don't you go bring Jameson or some of these other teams that I think they could have used James or he would have been an upgrade based on a quarterback situation. So I think. I'm not going to answer that. I love Tommy, but they've got a bunch of pro guys on their roster right now.
- [45:04]
Ryan Russillo
Fair enough. Well said again. You can see Brady Quinn on Big Noon kickoff. I love watching every Saturday you guys are going to be from the shoe for a game that has as much anticipation for it as maybe any game this regular season.
- [45:18]
Brady Quinn
I need your soul so I can text you at some point during the game and just get your, like, lives in the moment, like, get your thoughts on it. Because I want to. I want to feel like whatever that is. Like, if Indiana's up by like 10 points and you're like, holy hell, maybe they are. I mean, that's what, that's what this comes down to, right? Like, we still, at this point are 10 games in the season. We don't know how good Indiana is. I think they're good. I just don't know how good.
- [45:41]
Ryan Russillo
Look at that.
- [45:42]
Brady Quinn
If they beat Ohio State and Columbus, like, I think it's. We can anoint them. That stayed in the obvious, but if they play them close, I don't know. Like, I think they. I think what they've done this year, if this game is close and it's not like 56 to 7, I think Indiana should be a part of the playoffs.
- [45:57]
Ryan Russillo
We'll see. Because if it ends up being like a 28, 21 and it's a LA. It'll be like that box score. Like, hey, they held him the one score. But there's also games where I'll watch and go, this team was completely in control and so much better. But I don't. I don't go into this. Like, I think Indiana is just awful. I've never, I've never said that.
- [46:16]
Brady Quinn
Right.
- [46:16]
Ryan Russillo
I just. To the resume thing that we've already covered a million times and I somehow got it in three episodes all this week. I'll give you that cell when we're done here.
- [46:24]
Brady Quinn
Kudos to you, Ryan. You, like, created a storm, a crap storm.
- [46:28]
Ryan Russillo
I couldn't believe it.
- [46:29]
Brady Quinn
Yeah, it's great. It's awesome.
- [46:31]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
- [46:31]
Brady Quinn
I don't know football, like, that's the thing. That's what makes this fun. You know, people get to debate and talk about it, and that's part of the love of the game.
- [46:39]
Ryan Russillo
I also think it proved not many people had been paying attention to who they were playing in the Big Ten because then I saw a bunch of pieces. Like, I just. I hate the argument of, well, what are you supposed to do? You can only play who's in front of you. Like that's what I would say if I had a bad schedule, too. But I can't wait, man. I cannot wait for this game. I'm even staying. I'm getting to bed early tonight. Just rested. Gym in the morning and then. Right, right to the shoe.
- [47:02]
Brady Quinn
South Bay, bro. Man, you stoner, Feldman liner. All you South Bay bros. It's. It's gym. Tank top, flip flops. Watch some football, baby. Let's go.
- [47:10]
Ryan Russillo
I know. I can't. I may pick out a new tank just for this. Thanks, man. Appreciate the time. Awesome job this season. I love you guys. All right, the alliance marches on. Okay. Didn't get it last week.
- [47:28]
Brady Quinn
Crazy.
- [47:28]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I know. How about those Johnny's though? Last night you upset this.
- [47:33]
Kyle
I'm. I'm so sad. I. I threw on a life is good shirt just to try to cheer myself up. That was tough.
- [47:38]
Ryan Russillo
That'll do it. I better work though. Yeah, it's a little.
- [47:42]
Kyle
Life is 10 minutes ago, but not quite there.
- [47:46]
Ryan Russillo
We'll get there. Okay. War gone is just a beast. So I feel like the board is his, but he hinted at what he was going to do last week and now there's a discussion about it. So let's do this. Let's. Why don't Cerudi and Kyle go first and then Morgan and I will figure out our strategy.
- [48:08]
Steve Wargone
Yeah. Just so everyone's clear, we're gonna. He's hit four straight. I've also hit four straight. Seven and five. Kyle six and six and Ryan is three and nine.
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Kyle
I started co host. Like that would be a great spot for you. I feel like.
- [48:23]
Ryan Russillo
All right, what do we got, Kyle?
- [48:24]
Steve Wargone
All right, go ahead, Kyle.
- [48:25]
Kyle
Well, everybody on CBSSports.com likes Colorado and that's good enough for me. So I'm going to take the Colorado money line.
- [48:32]
Ryan Russillo
Okay.
- [48:34]
Steve Wargone
What's funny about that is everybody, I feel like on the action network likes Kansas. So we're just battling each other out.
- [48:42]
Ryan Russillo
That's a tough one because Kansas posts that BYU win. But Kansas been in like all of these games this year. They started what, one in five?
- [48:51]
Steve Wargone
So you got that quarterback recruit though. You know, Colorado feeling good.
- [48:57]
Ceruti
If CBS likes it, why not? That's all I'm saying.
- [49:01]
Ryan Russillo
Okay.
- [49:02]
Kyle
Don't patronize me. Nine wins or whatever you got. I need this.
- [49:09]
Ryan Russillo
All right, Ceruti.
- [49:10]
Steve Wargone
I'm gonna go Ole Miss. I'm gonna take it down to the alt minus six and a half. So get it under a touchdown coming off a buy off the Georgia win. Florida coming off the LSU win. I know it's at Florida. I just think Ole Miss is way better. I don't really believe in this Florida team. So give me Ole Miss to win by touchdown or more.
- [49:25]
Ryan Russillo
Okay. All right. So war gone. You had hinted that you were just gonna tease down Ohio State because that's what you're supposed to do against Indiana. But it sounds like you're wavering a bit. So if you want Ohio State, you certainly can have it. I just wanted to know, kind of wanted to know what you're doing first. Right.
- [49:41]
Ceruti
I was looking for a way to bet against Indiana. Ohio State -6 and a half I still think is going to hit. I was looking at Alabama -7 and a half against Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma kind of sucks. This is kind of a easy spot for Alabama. And then I like Georgia -38 and a half against UMass.
- [49:57]
Steve Wargone
Just fire their coach.
- [49:59]
Ceruti
Only because they just canceled their senior day. They don't get individual announcements of senior Day. Fuck them. I like Georgia. I like the storyline there. I think I'm going to go Ohio State minus six and a half. It's just too good. Indiana's not good. We've been talking about it for weeks. I don't think they're not. They're bad. I just don't think they're as good as Ohio State.
- [50:21]
Ryan Russillo
I don't think they're bad. I. I don't. I've watched three full Indiana games. You know, I would say Iowa in 15. It's funny when it's like, do you even watch the games? Watching Iowa in that Wisconsin game 10 years ago was what had kind of set the table for me to be like, don't buy into them. And then they were much better in the Michigan State game. So I actually feel better about Indiana against their schedule than other teams. But this is. I don't need to repeat my.
- [50:46]
Ceruti
I didn't love the way they looked first. Michigan.
- [50:49]
Ryan Russillo
No. I mean, they get down 10, nothing. But all right. I probably shouldn't pick that game. So I'm glad war gone did.
- [50:57]
Steve Wargone
I was kind of hoping you would just. Either way, I know you kind of gold. Like, if you just were like, fuck it, I just ride the Indiana hate train. Or if you just took Indiana, which would be great too. Just zag loose.
- [51:08]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, but see, it's never about. I don't hate Indiana.
- [51:12]
Steve Wargone
No, I know you don't.
- [51:13]
Ryan Russillo
I know it has nothing to do with that. It is. It is. If there were a team anywhere else in the country and it's going to happen with what we have. But again, everybody's heard my position from this. I've campaigned long enough. All right. Okay. How State down the center now. Who knows what the conditions could be. Is this different? The Buckeyes power run game doesn't really exist. I was almost thinking of taking it the other way and seeing we can middle it.
- [51:43]
Steve Wargone
Can we not do that?
- [51:44]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
- [51:45]
Ceruti
Could we do literally anything but that? Is that a possibility?
- [51:49]
Ryan Russillo
We won't do it. I don't even know if we're allowed to do it.
- [51:51]
Steve Wargone
We can.
- [51:52]
Ryan Russillo
If there's somebody that shouldn't be getting cute right now, it's me. So that A M Auburn line is so stinky that I wouldn't even do anything with it because that one's tough. The Kansas BYU thing, post BYU game scares me and kind of get a read on that one whatsoever. So why don't we go Penn State, it's minus 10 and a half. Minnesota. So what do we get? Seven and a half. That's so pathetic that even with the help it's going this bad.
- [52:20]
Kyle
Those are two War Gone staple teams, right? Minnesota and Penn State.
- [52:24]
Ryan Russillo
See, this is even worse. I could be trotting. Yeah. Drafting off of War Gone's Penn State position that wins every week. And then I do it. Don't take the Ohio.
- [52:32]
Ceruti
That lines up to 11 and a half now.
- [52:34]
Kyle
He's oofing. This isn't good.
- [52:39]
Steve Wargone
It's close. It's close to the. To the threshold. But what's.
- [52:42]
Ryan Russillo
Let's.
- [52:42]
Steve Wargone
We're going to give it to you because we need the touchdown. I feel like we, you know, touchdown. Safe. So if we do Ole Miss to win by a touchdown. If we do Colorado money line, Ohio State to win by a touchdown and Penn State to win by a touchdown. That's +445. Boys.
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Ryan Russillo
It's like helping your dad into a restaurant. I don't love that.
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Steve Wargone
All favorites go wrong. Yep.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, so what was it again?
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Steve Wargone
Plus 445. Ole Miss minus six and a half. Colorado Moneyline. Ohio State minus six and a half and Penn State minus six and a half.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, let's couch money research you before we say goodbye to you. All right. I'm going with my couch pick. Green Bay minus three against my Niners. I know it's tough emotionally for me, the money. 89% of the public money is on Tampa. So that means you're on the Giants. Without Daniel Jones even on the roster, you won't have me to kick anymore. Giants. Let's see the latest number. Because I Put this one in earlier this morning. It's plus six and we continue to scroll. Oh, we're at plus five and a half. All right. No, I could be a stickler here and say, well, when I gave it out. But let's, you know, it's been too easy this year. So let's not take any favorites plus five and a half and research again. The smarter people seem to like the Colts plus seven and a half at home against Lions. Really, really sharp side this year. The Colts feels like it's every other week with them. Okay, enjoy.
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Brady Quinn
You want details? Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.
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Ryan Russillo
Lifeadvice.rr, gmail.com. that is the email address we've got Kyle. We've got Steve Warground monitoring in the background. Little feedback here. I'm a backflip guy. Dan, 43. No real gym stats. I'm mostly mountain bike, former wrestler, so no basketball comp either. A couple weeks ago, Kyle had a throwaway line about someone being a backflip guy. As a backflip guy myself, I can say it's a pretty solid move. Back flip guy instantly differentiates himself from the crowd. You obviously don't want backflips to be your only redeeming quality, but as a starting point, it's about as good as you could hope for. At 43, I'm starting to lose the standing back flip and backflip off a wall. But I still have the round off backflip and can rock a trampoline. Love the show. Shout out to all the backflip guys out there listening.
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Steve Wargone
The back flip rose. Let's go.
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Kyle
Yeah, I feel like the older you get, the more your peers dislike that you're the backflip guy. I think when you're like, the peak is probably middle school, early high school. Like, man, who knows what that guy's capable of? Did you see what he just did at the pep rally? But I don't know. When you're like 40 and you're like, it's like, oh, yeah, Todd's going to do a backflip minus. Minus 400 odds that he's going to do. It's like, fucking douchebag. But I think it's cool. But I just. I could see how your peers might like it. Might lose a little luster and get them to turn against you instead of being like in awe of you. But I think in high school, it's the coolest thing you could do.
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Steve Wargone
It's kind of like the guy who, you know, pulls out the guitar and goes acoustic after dark on you. It's like, oh man, we're doing this again.
- [55:54]
Kyle
It's more impressive than that. But you're like, oh, yeah, he's going to use his go to move.
- [55:57]
Ryan Russillo
Cool.
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Steve Wargone
I would agree it is more impressive. So I had one of my best friends, Jeremy, he was a gymnast.
- [56:03]
Ryan Russillo
He was.
- [56:03]
Steve Wargone
He is still alive. His screen name was Jared, do a backflip 50. He was big time backflip guy. His entire identity, it kind of was. He's also the guy that called everyone virgins when we went to that college party. Good times. But he kind of grew.
- [56:21]
Ryan Russillo
Did he get away with it because he could backflip?
- [56:26]
Steve Wargone
I don't know that he got away with it. It was kind of cool. But again, he was a gymnast, so it was like kind of expected, so. But he. But he did grow out of it as an adult. I haven't seen him do a backflip in a while, so. Good for him.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, the guitar thing's a good call. I mean, I had a buddy because I attempted to teach myself how to do this. John Fahey, finger picking style. Don't worry, no one's getting that reference. And Ed Quinn was over, and he's obviously, you know, a musician and was like, what's going on over here? And of course, whenever anybody strums it and they know what they're doing, they're like, your guitar's out of tune. I'm like, actually, it's open sea tuning. And he's. I was like, well, let me show. And then I started playing it a little bit, trying to show him the thing I was doing. And then I said, I'm not gonna. I'm not really comfortable right now. Just you and I in my living room and me with a guitar looking at you while I try to play this. And he was like, I. I'm glad you're gonna stop. I was like, cool. Who's gonna put it away? So it's not really a backflip. Yeah, it's not a backflip. It kind of reminds you. Just a Hartford Pete. Hard for Pete. My roommate back in college. He really, really great musician. But if there was a piano around, he would play it. And pianos are generally stationary and people would have somewhere else to go. We brought this up before, but you would just have to leave him, because if there were a piano there, he would sit down, he would play. He probably hoped some chicks would check it out. And we'd be like, hey, we need to go. And he just wouldn't. And so you would. You would just have to, like, go to the parking lot and.
- [58:02]
Kyle
Yeah, well, that's tough. I mean, if he stays there, he stays there. But if I see a piano, it's acceptable. Like, I might bang out a little Pirates of the Caribbean, see if I can remember how to do Star Wars.
- [58:11]
Ryan Russillo
Wow.
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Kyle
Yeah, it's a good one. I think it's one of those things where if you don't have the proper form, you can still kind of pull off Pirates of the Caribbean. Once you figure out which one of those black keys you got to hit, it's just. It's a nice thing. And it's over in, like, 30 seconds. And people are like, wow, that was cool.
- [58:26]
Steve Wargone
Yeah, I remember we got a keyboard. One of the guys got a keyboard in college, and then so dude started, like, youtubing how to play Coldplay songs. And to Ryan's Ed Quinn thing. It was like, this is kind of weird. Maybe we should stop doing this. Yeah. You know, it was a face.
- [58:44]
Ryan Russillo
It's okay. All right.
- [58:45]
Steve Wargone
Was there a question in this email?
- [58:46]
Ryan Russillo
No, not at all.
- [58:48]
Kyle
Just a backflip guy, and I think we didn't give him enough credit for still being able to do a backflip, so sorry about that one.
- [58:52]
Ryan Russillo
That's cool.
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Steve Wargone
Yeah, that's a good point. I've always been trying it with 40. Have you guys tried to do a backflip? Like, just you try in life, right? I would assume, like, you think it's. You're like, oh, it's not that hard, and then you just fall flat in your head because you can't rotate.
- [59:04]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
- [59:04]
Kyle
Trampoline's closest I've got.
- [59:06]
Steve Wargone
Doesn't count.
- [59:06]
Ryan Russillo
I used to do front flips into a pool. Yeah, that too, but off a diving board. Or like, now just off of it.
- [59:13]
Steve Wargone
Off the side ledge.
- [59:15]
Kyle
Yeah, I think I needed a diving board.
- [59:17]
Ryan Russillo
I tried to do a backflip once, I think into a pool, and I broke my nose with my kneecap.
- [59:22]
Steve Wargone
Cool thing when we were. I was growing up was like, you guys do gainers off diving boards?
- [59:28]
Ryan Russillo
Jack knives?
- [59:30]
Steve Wargone
No, like, the gainers. Like, when you run forward but do the backflip, and it's, like, kind of terrifying. Yeah, that was the big thing.
- [59:36]
Kyle
I have spatial awareness to try that. Never did, actually.
- [59:41]
Ryan Russillo
Don't you have to scream gainer too when you do it. Probably.
- [59:44]
Steve Wargone
Yeah.
- [59:47]
Kyle
It's like calling it off the glass or it didn't count.
- [59:50]
Steve Wargone
True.
- [59:53]
Ryan Russillo
I just feel like I thinking of like along came Polly and then thinking about Philip Seymour Hoffman screaming Raid. Man, did he do that in a movie? I don't know. All right, joining the wrong gym. Marcilla, please help Ryan Long time listener, first time emailer Jim Stats are respectable, but nothing to write home about. Pickup comp would be a shorter and slower Kirk Heinrich Heinrich Ball dude. I've been going to the gym consistently five times per week for over a decade and been a member of many different gyms. As I've moved around a bit, I've made a massive mistake at the gym I've joined. I live up just the coast from you and belong to a gym called Redacted. All right, so he's not going to tell us the name. Not sure if you've heard of this place. He does give me the name but I've not heard of it. I didn't know anything about this. This may as well be the live nightclub in Miami. I'm only 31 but I feel like I'm 65 in this place. It is louder than any gym I've ever been to and a tripod is a necessary accessory. They have a live DJ during most of the times I have free to go to the gym. Pretty sure I've been in a few influencers videos inadvertently. The problem is I signed a year contract with this place but I can't stand the thought of continuing to work out here. I've tried it for six months, can't do it anymore. What's the best approach to try to get out of it? My only thought so far is to try to get a doctor's note saying my ears are messed up from the live DJs playing. They are opening an Equinox in the Palisades next month, so I'm thinking about joining that as they're offering discounted rates. As a loyal member of Equinox Rossillo, how would you recommend I proceed? How would you describe your Equinox experience? My favorite gym I belong to so far is a lifetime athletic country club that had a ton of amenities for reference. I love Equinox just because I can go to another Equinox in other cities when I'm traveling. Like that's my favorite part of it. It was actually pretty funny, but I was so excited to join Equinox that when I knew I was leaving ESPN radio and it was like right at the End. I think the week I left, I drove down to Greenwich, Connecticut, and joined from West Hartford and then worked out and they're all go, see you around. I was like, not really. I'm moving to la. I just wanted. I just wanted to start the process because I think I had to be in New York. Yeah, I just. I joined. I don't know if it was. If it's Stanford or Granite, I could be getting it wrong. But whatever it was, I drove from West Hartford down there just to join because I knew I had trips coming up and then I'd be in la and I was like, I just want to start the process. That was like my present to myself. Loser. Anyway, I again, I like Equinox a lot, so I don't know why you have to be such, like, so worried about this. Just go up to him and go, this doesn't work for me. All right? I mean, it's a business. And maybe they'll try to jam you the first time through, like whenever you put an insurance claim, but go a second time. I have no doubt that you can wear down a business like this, where you go, this does not work for me. I don't want to pay the rest of the year. I cannot wait to quit. I hate it here. It's not a fit. And what are they going to say? Sorry, you paid? I mean, they may say it the first or second time. Just keep working your way up the ladder. Depends on how important the money is to you. Some other people wouldn't care about the money, but I'm fighting for you here because this sounds terrible. I imagine that all the loose benches are storage units and not benches. I imagine they use the flat benches as hip thrusters, not realizing that that's not what they're there for. Yeah, I hate this place. I hate this place. I hate it for you. So go in fierce show no potential swaying. When they go, well, maybe you give it another month or coming at a different time of day, or maybe we can think it out, be stout in your position and just go, I don't want to do this.
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Kyle
Yeah, I was just doing a quick Google to see if there was like, you know, there's like timeshare lawyers. Like, hey, I really screwed this up. Do you think you could help that? I don't really see anything for.
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Ryan Russillo
Can't imagine. Super lucrative.
- [64:05]
Kyle
Yeah, I wonder. It's like, is there one of those.
- [64:10]
Ryan Russillo
Things so minus $120 that you owe me here is.
- [64:15]
Steve Wargone
You're actually worse off now.
- [64:16]
Kyle
Yeah, yeah, I'm not seeing a lot. I just did a quick Google here. Can I sue my gym membership? I don't think they've really done anything, so. Yeah, I think like you said, just don't. Don't waver and just get. Get past the person whose job it is to say no and. And then maybe get to the person whose job it is to say, why. So I don't know, why don't you.
- [64:36]
Ryan Russillo
Just take your shirt off at it? You go the other way, try to.
- [64:39]
Kyle
Get thrown out, ruined seven TikTok videos a day, and just wait until it's go.
- [64:46]
Ryan Russillo
Headbands, goggles, shirts off, oiled up. Don't towel down any machines. You just start screaming, gainer, Gainer. I don't know. There's not much else there.
- [64:59]
Steve Wargone
Yeah, I don't have much on this.
- [65:01]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, just thought it was important. Okay.
- [65:08]
Steve Wargone
I actually have. I have a good one really quickly, if you guys have time. My buddy texted this to the group last night. I know we don't usually do, like, you know, I guess call in ones, but my buddy was crazy. My buddy was at a bar last night. I think you guys like this one. My buddy was at a bar last night that was like a work thing. And he bought. He had been buying drinks all night, tipping cash, and it was late. He bought a sun cruiser, which is like a. I think it's like an iced tea, spiked iced tea type deal. It's a canned shrink.
- [65:37]
Ryan Russillo
Never heard of it. Is that what it's called?
- [65:40]
Steve Wargone
Sun cruiser, I think, right? Yeah.
- [65:42]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, people love those. They were a big part of the Pinehurst week.
- [65:46]
Steve Wargone
Yeah, they're good. I think that's what it's called.
- [65:48]
Ryan Russillo
I don't think it is.
- [65:50]
Steve Wargone
Not terribly important.
- [65:51]
Ryan Russillo
Something else. Well, it kind of is to them. No, true. But I mean, hold on, I'll get the name right, but keep going.
- [66:00]
Steve Wargone
Anyway, so it was like, last drink of the night, he buys a sun cruiser. It's like a $9 drink, which is insane, in a can. And he leaves a dollar tip, leaves a dollar.
- [66:11]
Ryan Russillo
Oh, it is.
- [66:13]
Steve Wargone
Thanks, Ryan.
- [66:13]
Ryan Russillo
It is a sun cruiser. I'm sorry.
- [66:15]
Kyle
I've been listening to you all times, Rudy. I appreciate it.
- [66:18]
Steve Wargone
Leaves a dollar tip. Guy out of nowhere, just like sitting at the bar, goes, that's it, bro. Patron at the bar, some guy. Yeah. And he was like, really? It's like a canned drink, man. Like, what do you want me to do? And the girl is behind the bar. My buddy's like, she's clearly embarrassed. And he. My friend was like, I don't know if he was like kind of simping a little bit or he didn't seem like they were together. Maybe he was like interested in the bartender. So he ends up like being like, all right, here's a five, dude, I don't really need it. And the bartender was like, no, no, no, no, don't just take it, take it. I don't need this. I don't need this. Clearly embarrassed. But my friend was like, no, gross. No, this is yours now. And he's like, was I the asshole for leaving a dollar tip on a canned drink? And my whole philosophy and most of my life has been like, if it's a canned drink, it's a dollar. Multiply it by how many you get. But he got one canned drink. So, you know, basically that's the situation. Like, was he in the wrong? Which I don't think so, but no.
- [67:09]
Kyle
And he was tipping cash all night. So he's doing the right thing by all stretches of imagination.
- [67:15]
Ryan Russillo
What are you saying?
- [67:16]
Kyle
So I. No, that's. That's one guy who's what probably planted in the middle of the bar has been talking to this woman as she passes left and right. Right. Getting his jokes ready and probably like, oh, look at this guy. I'm cooler than you know. So no, that's. That's one guy who's out of touch and, and probably is doing the bar wrong anyway. So no, that's you. You know, you're got your guys stand your ground. One can is $1.
- [67:41]
Ryan Russillo
That's how it works. Yeah, I. Your friend's totally right. The other guy's an asshole. I can't monitoring other people with that. And it was a dollar in a can. Yep. All right, this one's different. 5, 10, 170, 33 year old girl, dad, two of them. No gym stats, ball comp, Doug eater without the mustache. Pretty simple one here. My family and I live in a standard suburban neighborhood with houses 10ft apart. So over the last month or so our direct side neighbor has changed their fabric softener and or dryer sheets and it smells horrible. Their dryer exhaust opens directly towards our house and funkifies our outdoor space on the regular. Worse yet, they seem to be the daily laundry type of household. I've waited patiently to see if this was a temporary shift, but nope, seems to be the new normal. Is this a topic that can possibly be broached with the neighbors? The husband is Jack and easily could put me in my place, but he's fairly gentle minded and his lended tools helps with tasks in the past, they tend to run the machine right after I get home from work, when I like to play outside with my kids. But practicing T ball while gagging on the smell has proven tiresome. What say the boys on this issue? Do I have a case or should I suck it up and deal? Thanks for your advice, man. That's tough. Because I'll admit, every now, every now and then, like you, you smell a nice dryer sheet in a compressed container. Yeah, right. I'm not crazy. Thank you, Kyle. Like, what's that in the air? The changing of the leaves. Autumn upon us. No, Crisp linen chemicals. Let's get a whiff, kids. I think it's so crazy that it might be kind of funny the fact that in that you have some kind of relationship with the guy, maybe that he's so jacked and tough, he's just totally secure with himself and he's like, no, I don't feel like I have to fight this guy because he's talking about my dryer vent exhaust. It sounds like it's probably dryer bent. And I don't think it'd be a fabric softer thing. I don't know. Not an H vac guy. But that is, I think it's so funny and so strange that I think you should be like, hey, this is going to sound crazy, but now granted, you know, I don't know what their machine is. You. You.
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Kyle
Can I pay for someone to go clear out your. Your tubes? Or is it like, do you think you think you could use this brand of dryer sheet? Because I was just thinking, what if it's food? What if this was food? And you were like, you know, on Wednesdays when, you know, you guys are experimenting, it doesn't work. You know what I mean? Then it doesn't work. You're like, I just kind of hate the smell that comes out of your curry.
- [70:10]
Ryan Russillo
Night sucks.
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Kyle
Right, Dave? Can you say that? Not really. People be like, get the fuck off my lawn. So your idea that this maybe is so crazy, that this plan is so crazy it just might work. Maybe. I just think that you could view it as like everything else. Like, I don't like what's coming over your fence for this reason, or I don't like it for that reason. So I think it's both. Like, sorry, that's like, this is going to stay in the confines of my property here. But yeah, I don't know. I probably wouldn't say anything, but I don't know, if you wanted to get funny about it, maybe it Works.
- [70:44]
Steve Wargone
See, I don't. I don't think. I think this is kind of straightforward one. There might be something wrong. You could be doing the guy a favorite.
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Kyle
Like you could clear that.
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Steve Wargone
Yeah, you could. Or you know, to your very smile. You know how the people come by and they're like, hey, we're doing the windows in the neighborhood. You know, wanted to know if you wanted in next weekend. Like maybe just get the dryer vent guy to come out and clear out everybody. You know, you just make it like it's your thing, but you're also helping out your neighbors. And that ends up clearing his thing because, like, there's a good chance it didn't smell. Maybe something stuck in there. Who knows? Like, you could be doing this guy a favor. So I actually don't think it's an asshole move. You might be helping him out.
- [71:15]
Ryan Russillo
I love it. I think that's the way to do it.
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Kyle
You've just been smelling of raccoon or something.
- [71:20]
Ryan Russillo
But it's. If it is just a straight up change of dryer sheet, then cleaning out the vent may not solve the problem.
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Steve Wargone
There's no way a dryer sheet makes that big of a difference though, right?
- [71:36]
Ryan Russillo
Dude, they're. What if our emailer's wrong? No good.
- [71:38]
Kyle
How could it be just. How could the company that makes that dryer sheet fuck up so bad where the neighbor is like queasy when he smells.
- [71:45]
Ryan Russillo
Have you guys ever outside air stuck your toe into the organic world of dryer sheets?
- [71:50]
Brady Quinn
No.
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Kyle
Is it really bad?
- [71:51]
Ryan Russillo
I have a lot of stuff going on out there and I don't.
- [71:54]
Kyle
I don't know that any of it works, like musky.
- [71:56]
Ryan Russillo
Like. What, the what, the sandalwood?
- [71:59]
Steve Wargone
Yeah, I have a full pack right over here. It's.
- [72:01]
Kyle
We don't got burned by some bad dryer sheets.
- [72:04]
Steve Wargone
I don't use. I don't use them. Rather not use dryer things.
- [72:06]
Ryan Russillo
Bad.
- [72:07]
Steve Wargone
They just. They don't do anything. And yeah, like they. I don't even like the way that they make my clothes feel in the dryer. Like it's a noticeable difference. So I just. They're just. Again, I think this might have been a mother in law purchase. We talked about the deodorant thing. That's just kind of her thing. It's okay.
- [72:21]
Ryan Russillo
I just found out about dryer sheets.
- [72:22]
Steve Wargone
Like six years ago, like in general.
- [72:25]
Kyle
Yeah, well, I mean I knew they dryer balls.
- [72:29]
Steve Wargone
They're probably not very good for you, but, you know, I don't know.
- [72:32]
Kyle
Dryer.
- [72:33]
Ryan Russillo
Chalk it up. We haven't done the aluminum deodorant truth all yet. So, yeah, Sarah Walsh and Matt Bushman were staying at my house when I wasn't here once, and I just gave him the keys. I was like, go for it. I was out of town. And she was like, you don't have dryer sheets. I was like, what am I? What am I, a virgin?
- [72:56]
Kyle
I love dryer sheets. When I use. When I'm out, I do a load. It's really. I'm like, this is wrong. Something's wrong here.
- [73:03]
Steve Wargone
So I agree.
- [73:05]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I don't think we helped anybody again today.
- [73:09]
Steve Wargone
I think we helped the last guy.
- [73:10]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
- [73:12]
Steve Wargone
Anyway.
- [73:12]
Ryan Russillo
All right. Talk to your gym.
- [73:14]
Steve Wargone
No, not ask guy.
- [73:17]
Ryan Russillo
Well, the problem is if it isn't the vent. But I love your idea back door because there's also a version of this where if you go to him and you're like, hey, this is going to sound weird. I'm out here with my kids and right when it happens, he's going to just go right to his wife and be like, that psycho next door said, now you're not getting the tools. He's not helping you with some general tasks. So I would, I would. Yeah, I would try to, like, outflank him with, hey, you know, got to vent, people coming over or whatever. Like, have you noticed you're smelling weird lately? Like, yeah, we're playing.
- [73:47]
Steve Wargone
Yeah. When it's running, maybe knock on the door and be like, hey, do you want to get out here and get away for this? Because, like, I'm not making this up.
- [73:53]
Ryan Russillo
But I would, I would say, like, hey, I'm having him come by. But have you smelled. Get a whiff of this whole thing? What if he's out there? He's like, smells awesome. Yeah.
- [74:00]
Steve Wargone
What are you talking about, dude?
- [74:02]
Ryan Russillo
You're gonna have to buy your kids a PS5. You're like, we don't play outside anymore. Your career's over. Everybody wants too awkward. Okay. That's life advice. Thanks to Saruti, thanks to Kyle, and thanks to Wargon. Good luck to everyone. Just in general, check out our podcast on YouTube and subscribe ringer spot must be 21 and older. Present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18/ plus and present in D.C. gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler or visit rg-help.com call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling helpline.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-87-7-8, Hope NY or text Hope NY in New York.