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Thoughts for you today. Specifically Caleb Williams Monday night. Caleb Kai, it was a tough second half for us, maybe even hints at a tough second half in the first half. So some thoughts on that, some numbers I'm going to share with you on the bad throw percentage jump, which is not a good time. Trey McBride is on his way to potentially being the best tight end in the NFL. We're going to talk about his career from Colorado State and even before that, shout out to Fort Morgan. May want to avoid it during the sugar beet season, but an awesome player, an awesome contract and an awesome story. And we've got Brad Inglesby, the master at storytelling. His new show task is out on hbo. The pilot is out. You can check it out every Sunday. I want to talk to him about creating this show and everything around it. And is there ever going to be a sequel of Mayor of East Town? And we've got life advice extended.
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I remember the first time I saw him, Fenway park. He was 5 10, 5 11. Probably still is. He had sandy brown hair, looked like maybe a bit of a mustache. Tells you perhaps he was a pitcher in high school. There was a scrappiness to him, you know, maybe a little rough around the edges. Tells you that he's from maybe Woburn or something, not Duxbury. And he had a sweatband, kind of like a wrist, you know, sweatband that we used to wear as kids, hitters used to wear. And then, you know, something happened in the early 2000s. Dude started moving it higher up their forearm. I remember there's a bartender that I worked with that used to just keep his bottle opener stashed in there, like his weapon of choice. And this guy just had it around his throwing arm. He's the best peanut vendor I've ever seen in my life, and I still think about him. This episode is brought to you by Doordash. Look, winning every Saturday sounds great, but with doordash streaks, it's actually possible. 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And then, you know, he'd kind of look at the vendor, would look at them being like, you know, what are we doing trying to get peanuts to the people here? Because people would raise their hands and he would look at them, and he would flick the bag of peanuts, too, before he threw it. And I don't know if that was to crack some sort of hole in it to release the air, maybe that gave him a better grip. Maybe there was something going on with the vortexes. I don't know. But he had it down. I mean, who's to question any of the process that he would have? And he would kind of give this look like Kenny Stabler after a few drinks. And, you know, the. The fan and the seat would point to themselves, and they'd be like, me all the. All the way up here. And he would just kind of like, flick the sack of peanuts and just kind of give this nod. And then he'd Throw it right into their hands. As long as they didn't move, it was always a completion. And if they dropped it, he'd give that look of like a quarterback being like, that's a fucking in cut. Like, like, what are you doing as a football team? Would go back to the sideline after an incomplete on third down. It was never his fault. And honestly, it kind of wasn't ever his fault if the peanuts landed on the ground. And you have a lot of fun watching it happen because you could see those of us that air a lot, you know, we knew the deal and those that were seeing it for the first time, our enjoyment was seeing people enjoy it for the first time. Sometimes you see him after at the Baseball Tavern, shout out to Rooney, post shift leaning, having a beer. Guys would buy him beers. Sometimes guys would like grab him a beer and then pretend they were going to throw it at him. And he would just look at them and kind of give a. A smile that celebrities will give to people. I was like, yeah, hey, you know, I get it. Yeah. Oh, you're gonna throw it, you know, but it's like, I know you're not at my level. He'd give this look almost like Billy the Kid in jail. Like, you actually, like, you don't think I'm in total control of the situation. And he'd kind of smile. And so, yeah, I still think about him sometimes. And the reason I'm even talking about him is that when I watched Caleb Williams on Monday night, it didn't remind me of the peanut guy at all. Nothing, nothing resembled the peanut guy. Confidence, rattle, accuracy. So, yeah, I'm a Caleb guy and I know it's been two days, not technically 48 hours, but I just had some thoughts because that wasn't good. It wasn't good. Wasn't what I was hoping for. New offense, new investments in the offensive line, a year of seasoning, and trust me, I was getting a lot of texts. I got a few texts, maybe a lot. You know, 10's probably a lot. So closer to five, some texts. In that first stretch of the game, Caleb OB is 10 for 10. He's got the rushing touchdown, the escapability, all the fun stuff. Some guys are like, good for you. You're always stubborn about this stuff and good for you. And I was like, I don't know. Still have a ways to go in this one and sure, like, we can play the game. If they make the field goal to go up 20 to 6 in the fourth quarter, maybe it's a different result if you don't have the awful call on Darnell Wright, I think at right tackle, I think there was the Stevenson pass interference call against Naylor that was pretty rough because it looked like Naylor just sort of fell down on third and one. So there's stuff we could do if you wanted to. I try to talk yourself into this. I mean, it was 12 penalties for 127 yards. But to spin it the other way, the Bears get a pick six. That offense just shut down. They had five possessions in the second half where they moved it for a total of 66 yards before the Kirk Cousins TD to cut the lead to 27:24. So the game was kind of over when they put together that touchdown drive. So, you know, the escapability is nice, but the running around part of it doesn't mean anything if the throwing part of it isn't there. And even though it felt pretty good in the beginning, and for the same reasons I wasn't celebrating Caleb Williams, the same reasons why I wasn't ready to dig a grave for J.J. mcCarthy in his first start, who didn't look good until he was incredible in the fourth quarter and just kind of let it all fly. So, you know, who knows, you know, maybe the Vikings on this JJ thing are right. And, and I'm not even suggesting that they're necessarily wrong, but it's a pretty bold thing to do. As we've touched on during the summer of a team 14 and 3 and being like, nope, we're going to go with the guy that was clearly, clearly they like him enough to have taken him, but just ready to hand him the keys to this whole thing. But back to Caleb, like, there's the clips out there. I mean, do you want to talk about any of the bad throws? Cause there's a ton of them. There's a ton of them. I mean, I could just list all of them, but you've probably seen them already. And if you've seen the all 22 clips, it's even worse because I think in this Ben Johnson offense, if you think about golf, you think about, okay, a lot of it is establishing the run. It is the wins off a play action once the run is established, it is Goff making the right decision when it isn't there. And there were at times throws with Caleb where I'm like, this does remind me maybe I'm just playing too much of the. Ben Johnson was just a Detroit and Goff was there. So I'm looking for the exact same things, but the right throws. When it's not there. And instead of it just feeling like, especially with the lead, like they were in control and it was, hey, just finding those right throws. I don't know what happens to him because I don't know if it's just as simple as calming down a little bit, but once it starts getting weird for him and maybe you could understand, like, goes back to the old David Carr thing with Houston is like, could it have ever been fixed with him, considering he started off just getting his ass handed to him and just all the sack numbers that he was taking? Like, are you. Do you become this quarterback who's trying to develop? And really what you're doing is developing survival? So I was wondering if there was any carryover from that. Like, are these the years where Caleb, like, if it were ever going to work out, it couldn't ever work out from the starting point. Now, the sack numbers for Caleb, they're astonishing from last year, but it's a bit like the Russell Wilson stuff. Even during the peak years in Seattle where, remember the first time Wilson was suggesting, like, the O line needed to be a little bit better or the sack total was a little too high, it's like, yeah, a lot of those sacks are on you, though, because as great as you are in your talent to kind of keep these plays alive, like, you'll look at some of the Caleb numbers and be like, look at all the time he has a throw. And it's like, well, time to throw can be misleading, too, because time to throw can mean that you're just back there running around, hoping something happens, but then the protection is totally breaking down and you end up taking sacks. That has nothing to do with the offensive line. So the bad habits that we saw, whether it was him not seeing the field or feeling like every time he dropped back, he was running for his life, which I think is part of it from last year. But if that's kind of in your internal clock, can that be fixed with new offensive lineman, new coordinator, new system, all that kind of stuff, if that's what you did for an entire year. So, again, it sounds like I'm making excuses for him. I'm not at all. Because the misses. You're just not going to survive in the NFL if you're going to miss throws the way he missed throws on Monday night. I like to look at the Pro Football reference page for the NFL quarterbacks because they have some advanced passing numbers. And I'm sure, you know, again, if we really want to dig into it, you can pick some of this stuff apart, but there's a bad throw percentage number. Like what percentage of your throws over the course of the season are considered bad throws? And the best thing to do is look at the player you're looking at and then compare that with everybody else. So Caleb Last year on 21, 21% of his throws are considered bad throws. According to however they they calculate this number. On Monday night, 26% of his throws were considered bad throws. His pressure rate last season, dropped backs facing pressure pressured on 23 and a half percent of his drop backs in 24. Monday night, 25.6%. So that number didn't necessarily improve. But that 26% bad throw number from just one game, maybe it's just one game, we'll see. It's a carryover. Last year, it's even worse. And then when you compare that, I'm not even putting them against the stock studs. Like Gino had a really good year last year. Gino, 10% of his throws considered bad throws. Let's do some other quarterbacks. Justin Fields in 24, 16%. Drake may 16%. Spencer Rattler last year, 18%. Oddly enough, his bad throw percentage on 46 attempts against Arizona this past weekend, 2%. And then Mac Jones, one of our favorites in his three years at New England. The calculation is 16% of his throws are bad throws. Again last year, Caleb at 21%. You don't see north of 20 very often. And there's even some really good quarterbacks that have an oddly worse number than some of the guys you would like. So again, the number doesn't mean everything, but it was a bad throw fest on Monday night. So look, the bad parts are so bad that it completely cancels out the good parts. And like I've always said, the scrambling part's cool. Like, there was one move where, I mean, it's just a gift that he is able to kind of like step forward and then avoid pressure by like juking backwards and then be back on platform. And he has all the arm talent. And you think, okay, well this, this is really impressive. But none of that is impressive to me. If the throwing part isn't figured out, that's just the add on. And as I watch Monday night or, you know, look, I can chalk up, there's plenty of really good quarterbacks to have bad rookie seasons. But I don't know where the guy is from his sophomore year, his first year at SC where he was what, 42 and 5 on touchdown interception split the 10 yards on average of yards gained A different number you can look at there on, on throws. I mean, just an absurd number. When you calculate the whole stuff in. And you, some of you said, hey, you know, he regressed his junior year. You're not paying attention to that. I looked at the junior year of him trying to survive with a season that was lost based on SC standers where they were 8 and 5. And I'm like, this guy's out there just trying to figure out a way to keep this team in every one of these games. So I thought with adversity, you know, it wasn't like he was one of these dudes at Alabama where they're just better than everybody else. This whole run they get to step in NFL dudes all over the place and it's like, okay, really good, won a ton of games, great stats, but you know, is he going to even have same, like even close to the same level of superiority with the rosters he's going to have in the NFL? And usually the answer is always no. So I thought Caleb was actually dealing with adversity. His final year there, his junior year at sc, that would actually set him up to deal with it. And that's just not happened. So bad start? It was pretty bad. Doesn't remind me of the peanut guy, but I think if you know me, I'm going to have to see a lot more of this looking the same for me to ultimately submit. The Ryan Rosilla podcast is brought to you by FanDuel football fans, every NFL Thursday is your chance to hit the jackpot on FanDuel. Because with FanDuel's Thursday touchdown jackpot, you can win a share of $2 million in bonus bets each week. 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