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The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Conference Title Game Picks With Sheil Kapadia. NFL Coach Hiring Drama With Dianna Russini. Plus What’s Up With the Celtics?
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Ryan Rosillo
Foreign NFL for you. Today on the podcast, we're going to pick the AFC and NFC title games tendencies, maybe with Shield Kapadia and the latest on all the NFL coaching hires. How did all of these people land where they landed the best job and the worst job? With NFL Insider Diana Rossini. I went to the Lakers Celtics last night. Lakers look really good. The Celtics did not. The Celtics are kind of weird right now. What's going on? I dig into some of the numbers, present some theories. I'm probably not convinced of any of it yet, but I'm going to share it with you anyway. And life advice this episode of the Ryan Rosilla podcast is presented by State Farm. Bring home a win with an affordable price when you bundle home and auto with the personal price plan. Talk to Estate Farm Agent today to learn how you can bundle and save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. This episode is brought to you by Vuori. It's time to ditch your old work outfits. Seriously, just let them go and try Vuori Clothing instead. Their activewear is unbelievable. Sometimes I wear it and I go, do I look too good? I don't want to be at this peak level of awesomeness in their joggers every single day. This is going to be hard to maintain, but that's what the joggers do for you. Whether you're sort of business cash, whether you're just around the house, whether you're working out, whether you're getting on a plane and you're going to be in your seat for a long time. The joggers just give you a hug for the entire flight. It's soft, it's comfortable. You're never going to want to take them off. Incredible versatility. You can wear it while taking part in different kinds of exercises, running, training, swimming, yoga and more. Vuori Yoga class. That just makes sense. The Sunday jogger is the number one go to and of course the core short out. Now get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet. Our listeners get 20% off their first purchase at viori.com Ryan R Y E N that's V U O R I.com/ryan well, let's do it. Our picks and breakdown shield Capadia who joins us? You know him from the Ringer Philly Special and the Ringer NFL Show. It is my favorite slate of NFL football. I know Everybody likes division because you get the four games. I just think the magnitude what matters. I think we remember these games a lot better than we remember the, remember the division games. So let's just start in the AFC on Monday. I said I was picking Buffalo. I hate it because you're picking against Mahomes, but I'm, I'm there, you know, let's go, let's do this. Let's do it for the Bills down in Kansas City. Who are you picking?
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Diana Rossini
I've got the Bills too. I hate it too. I hate myself for doing it because I know my feeling, what it's going to be like on Sunday around 9:00 Eastern Time where I'm going. You idiot. Why did you try to do this again and outsmart yourself? But I just feel like, you know, from a narrative standpoint, is it. I felt coming into the playoffs that Josh Allen, a little more one of them was going to finally, finally break through. And so I'm basically just sticking to a previous take. That's my analysis.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, now if you look at the thing that was. Did you pick Baltimore against Buffalo?
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Diana Rossini
No, I had the Bills.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, all right. It made a lot of sense on paper because of the mismatch of thinking about the front in Derrick Henry in the rushing attack, a lighter D line. I mean, I think it was repeated non stop during the broadcast as well. But that was the Buffalo, Baltimore. That was the Baltimore argument in picking them against Buffalo, which is the way I should say it. And honestly it made a lot of sense. If you look at this, Bill's rushing attack, like they've been really good at. It's like sometimes I think the, the, the best quarterbacks, maybe it's the offensive coordinator and Brady being there for a while or. But it's just sometimes they can't help themselves with the toys. And it's pretty clear that Buffalo a couple games in and the Denver game wasn't really close, but at times it felt conservative, even against Baltimore. But it seems like with this rushing approach, 362 yards combined, 4.8 yards per carry, that that is something that Buffalo feels like in travel.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, this actually started, I feel like for them in last year's divisional round game against the Chiefs. If you look at that game, it was one of the most efficient offensive games for any team all season and they still lost because they couldn't produce explosive plays and they missed a field goal and Mahomes is Mahomes and all that. But yeah, I think they really leaned into it this year. They are running the football on first and second down at a higher rate than league average. Where like five years ago, you know, we would say, you have Josh Allen at quarterback. What are you doing? Like, put the ball in, in his hands, let him cook. But they've kind of leaned into this. They've got an awesome offensive line, a huge offensive line that can really run block, and that's been sort of the way they've played this year. And the other thing aligned with that is they're turning the football over at the lowest rate of any offense in 25 years. It's crazy. 4% of their possessions this year have resulted in turnovers. And so they. They've kind of leaned into it. When they need Josh Allen to be Josh Allen, he. He can be third and fourth down late in the game. But yes, the run game has kind of been at the heart of everything they do this season. That's been the big change with this. This version of the Bills team that.
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Ryan Rosillo
Intercept, or excuse me, I should say turnover number. Because then you think about Allen with the interceptions. If there was the one flaw with him, and it would bother me, maybe it was the red zone stuff that was happening, but then there was the elbow injury excuse. But there would be times where I would just think. I think it was the Cincinnati game last. Trying to think, uh, that would have been in 23. I think there was like a deep. They were backed up and he threw a pick. And you're just like, you don't. You don't need this throw here right now. And it was like a really, really risky throw. And now it feels like all of that is eliminated. And it reminds me a bit of, like, the basketball player. He gets drafted, you know, he's going to be an all star. He scores his 28, 30 points a game, but the team doesn't necessarily win all that much. And then he starts to realize, fine, I could score. I could score 35 if I wanted to every single night, but that doesn't make us better. And it feels like that's a lot like the Josh Allen story as a quarterback.
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Diana Rossini
And he still got it if he needs to, you know, like the baseball player, if he needs to take over in the last four minutes. I think Josh Allen obviously still has that. And it's been a funny sort of transformation to watch. I mean, he had that play last week where I think they're in the red zone and he's getting stuffed at the line of scrimmage, and there are players, remember the plan where he's thinking about lateraling it. Like you can kind of see it in his eyes and his motion. But he, he doesn't do it where you're just thinking, man, a couple years ago he might do something crazy like that. So he's got to. I, I always loved watching him even when he was doing those things. Cause I said he plays every play like it's fourth down in the super bowl and the game's on the line. It doesn't matter if it's week four against the Raiders or it's actually a playoff game. But, but he has kind of adjusted the, the way he's played. And yeah, you can't argue with the results.
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Ryan Rosillo
Do you see anything from week 11 that you think translates to this matchup?
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, I mean, you, you look at that, that game and really the last two games I was looking at, and it's actually been on the other side of the ball where the Chiefs offense has been really efficient against this Bill's defense, and specifically they've been able to run the football where you talk about the Chiefs and Mahomes and all that stuff, and that's not the first thing that that comes up. But I think it's going to tell us about the style of game we're going to get. Like, I think it is going to be one of those where we say Bills 9 play, 74 yard drive, they just took six minutes off the clock and then Chiefs 11 play, you know, 80 yard drive and all of a sudden we're going to get to like the, the middle of the third quarter or early in the fourth quarter and you're going to be like, these teams haven't had the, had a lot of possessions. So like every little thing gets magnified, whether it's a special teams miscue, whether it's a random turnover, all because I think that's the way these two teams are playing right now. It's not explosiveness. You know, you look at the Chiefs, they produced explosive plays at the third lowest rate of any team in the NFL this year. The Raiders and the Browns were the only two teams less likely to produce an explosive play this year than the Chiefs. It's been methodical. Move the football, let Mahomes create on third down. So yeah, I think when you look at that game earlier this season, and again, even going back to the divisional round, I think it's going to be that type of game. Long drives, not a lot of possessions. Every little mistake is going to be magnified.
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Ryan Rosillo
Do you think that Mahomes decided to play this way or this is the way Mahomes has to play because of the offensive line issues, because of the lack of receivers. The fact that Kelsey, who, you know, it's not surprising he lit it up in a playoff game because he's been putting up monstrous numbers. When you look at what he's done over the last, I don't know, six years in the playoffs, like I went through it, we were talking about it last week, but I still think that there's, there's something with Kelsey where this is the diminished version of whatever it is from his prime, but it's still this great safety blanket. He's going to win one on one matchups. His, his understanding of like freelancing in the route. It's like those two guys are just completely on the same page. They're going to do stuff a defense can't really even prepare for. But when you look at the depth of target, like it was funny that shot the Hollywood Brown in the Houston game. I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. That's what that used to look like. Yeah, like just seeing an incompletion, a deep shot down the sideline. I, I had a moment of watching and be like, oh, that's. He used to do that all of the time. And that was horrifying. So do you think, because some people have presented this as if it's him maturing and I'm like, you know what? I think he'd probably rather play like the way he used to because it was also a lot more fun.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, I'm 100% with you. I don't know many quarterbacks who would like if they got to choose their style of play, especially someone like him with the talent he has. And we've seen it. I mean, those Tyreek Hill, Kelsey in his prime type offenses, it was just unbelievable to watch when he would just get back there and launch the ball 45 yards downfield and drop it in the bucket. It was beautiful. So I think it's been two things. I think one is just kind of the league wide trend where all these defenses right now are saying, hey, play with two safety steep. Eliminate the explosive pass plays at all costs. And I think that kind of started with having to stop those Chiefs offenses and now it's all over the league. So I think that's one and then two is what you said. I mean, look at the supporting cast. You have two tackles who camp, you know, who have had issues to two tackle positions. Now they've sort of figured it out with Tuney, but you can't block well. And then just the supporting cast, like, it's not great. I mean, I laugh when I saw, like, the mv, you know, the top five MVP thing where I'm still going, like, put some of these guys in that, you know, in that Chiefs offense, and let's see what it looks like. Like, it hasn't been perfect this year. I'm not saying it has, but I still think he's doing more with less as much as any quarterback in the NFL. So I think it's been a combination of those things. But, yeah, I think they would love to get back to playing the way they did, you know, a few years ago.
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Ryan Rosillo
The funny thing is this offensive line shuffle. It looks like Joe Tunney is the best left tackle they're going to have.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he. He's been out there now. I think it has affected them a little bit, like the guy who's replacing him at guard and the run game a little bit. But it is an unbelievable job by him to just be playing guard. They. They drafted a guy, they signed a guy, and they're like, nope, yeah, stick Tony out there. And for the most part, he's held up really well. I mean, that. That Texans pass rush is better than anything. They're going to face the rest of the postseason. So, you know, if you could survive that, going to be in good shape the rest of the way.
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Ryan Rosillo
I feel like there's going to be a lot of man coverage in this, and part of that would be because, you know, Kansas City. Amen. Who being back, too, is another thing. I think they're getting back. There's a corner that wasn't playing in the regular season matchup. Is it Watson? Yeah. Who's. Who's back? So there's some health stuff you could look at here with the Chiefs matchup because I think. Amen. Who's like, an incredibly underrated dude. And maybe it's just because we talk about Jones and there's just so many different Carloftas making plays. There's just a lot of guys, they've done a really good job of stocking this. This defense, and it's a big reason why they can play the way they played on offense and still win all of these football games. So it's. It's pretty incredible, like, long term of, like, reinventing themselves on one side of the football and just maintaining the standard here of competing for Super Bowls every single year. But when I think about some of the matchup stuff here, like, Shakir has been great. They're they're creative with him. He's kind of the go to guy for him, but it's still not what you'd expect for a number one. And if you think about the corners for Kansas City and this is going to get into some of the NFC stuff too that we're going to talk about, it would feel like Kansas City likes their matchups on some of the one on one stuff. And that way, you know, I guess playing man against Allen scares you because of the scrambling ability. Playing man on third down, third and long against Mahomes always feels like, all right, he's just going to run it to the sideline and then you're kind of screwed. And then the other side of this, when the Bills played against Mahomes, it was one of the worst man EPA rates that Mahomes had had all season long. So you can sit there and be clever and be like, let's not show him the same exact stuff that we've shown him in the past. But I think specific to how the secondary matches up with these receivers for Kansas City and Buffalo and the statistical success that Buffalo had in man versus zone when they played each other in week 11, maybe that means that there's more chances for some shots here that we haven't seen from Mahomes, it feels like for way too long. And then certainly Buffalo last week.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, it's so funny to look at the two teams and you're like, who is the man coverage like issue on either. There's not a guy who you're like, oh man, you can't play man against this. You know, he's just going to cook somebody one on one. So it is interesting in that respect that you have two great quarterbacks but they don't have that, you know, number one pass catcher who's just going to dominate a one on one matchup. So yeah, the Bills have been mostly his own team this year, but McDermott has shown a willingness to switch things up more, I think than he has in the past. I mean, you look at that game last week against the Ravens, they played a different style than they had been playing all season. They're, they're aggressive, they're blitzing, they're playing more man. And so does he bring that into this matchup as well? You're right about the scrambling. That always makes me nervous against these two guys that if you're playing man in these situations, how many times have we seen it where it's third and nine and all right, they're taking off and it ends up a 15, 20 yard scramble that kind of breaks the back of the defense. So the man coverage that has to be aligned with the rush plan. Are you spying somebody? Do you have somebody in the middle of the field that's kind of that, you know, take away those crossing routes. So there are a lot of elements to it that, that's why they're so good. There's not a, you know, hey, do this one thing over and over again. And you mentioned it with Kelsey against zone, I mean he's just like freelancing and hey, find green grass, find the open space. I don't think any, I've never seen anybody do it the way he and Mahomes have done it where it's like if you're just playing zone, he's going to be able to find an opening and find a completion. So yeah, there is no great answer, but I think you could see them lean into some of that stuff.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. And look, I'm not educated enough to be like, oh, this is how many snaps are playing this and this is what they're going to do here. And against both of these guys, like you can't just go in and then never adjust throughout the game because any quarterback, any of the ones that we can list that are really good, like if you're going to stay in the same defense the entire time, like at some point I'm going to figure you out and it's not going to matter. It also depends on like, okay, what point of the game do you figure the other team out and at what point, you know, are we looking at the score here? I think the last thing that I want to do on this, I love the way that it's been described and kind of how Buffalo, because like when you're thinking about preparing for Lamar and Buffalo's had the best two games defensively against Lamar, the runner in his playoff career, like they've held him under 40 yards in both, both games. And I thought the broadcast did a really good job of explaining like the Buffalo pass rush will be almost deliberate. They're going to show you like this is the side that we're coming from because we want to move you over to this side. So that way we at least are containing you on one side of the field and then it's up to the guy to make a play or for him, his presence. And in this case it was Milano on some of the clips that they showed to like deter you from thinking about doing it now against Lamar, good luck. And it didn't matter. It didn't matter last week. And Mahomes isn't Lamar when we're talking about running. But there are some things that Buffalo does, especially with Milano just being back in the mix where it's going to be okay. You think you have this lane because we're overloaded on this side with the pass rush. You're like, okay, this is really cool. I'm just over here. But I don't know if it's traditional. It's just a spy. Maybe Milano has a different responsibility based on what he's seeing back there, but it's a really nice way of. You know, I always used to look at like these pass rushes against teams that I didn't think were super disciplined. You go all the way back to the Mike Vick stuff. It's like once you get past your tackles, you might as well just run to the sideline because just now it's. All the lanes are open, you're out of the play, you're behind him, you're never going to catch him. And he has so much less to avoid. And with Buffalo, it's not necessarily like, let's make sure we don't get too upfield. It just feels like it's. If we have a plan of attack, it doesn't matter if they know which side the pass rush is coming from because at least that way we're funneling Mahomes into an area that we feel like we can control.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, it is exactly like you described it, I think, where you're saying, hey, if you're going to scramble, if you're going to leave the pocket, we're making you go to this side and then we're going to have our off ball linebacker, whoever it is, Milano, like you said, waiting there. Now, like you say, he still has to make the play, you know, the quarterback.
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Ryan Rosillo
But I still, yeah, I'd rather be in space against Mahomes right now than Lamar Jackson. That's for sure. Right?
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Diana Rossini
Yeah. No, it's a, it's a good play. Mahomes out of structure this year on those second reaction plays. And I think it's because of the sporting cast. It's not because he's a different guy, but just like you look at it statistically when he's holding on to the football, it hasn't been as prolific as it has been in years past. Now, I'm not a dummy. I know that on Sunday he could just go out there and hold the ball and make seven plays like that where he reminds everybody. No, no, I am the best player in the world right now, but just the guys, they've had, you know, they haven't had the same luck there on the. On those scramble drills that they. As they have had in the past.
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Ryan Rosillo
I have a Mahomes legacy question, but I don't know that I want to ask it because I don't want. I'm just not going to ask it because he very likely will win this game at home. And the fact that they're healthier and that they've already seen them and, you know, it's Buffalo, they can like the matchup, and they've beaten him a few times here, but this is a whole different animal.
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Diana Rossini
All right, if he loses this game, is that where you were going with it?
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Ryan Rosillo
Not. Not overrated, but maybe I'll save it for Monday. Maybe it'll be one of those things where I do it in a monologue where I ask the question, but I'm definitely saying the question as my definitive answer.
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Diana Rossini
Okay.
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Ryan Rosillo
But I just. I hate picking against that dude. I hate it. And here we go again. All right, nfc. So I think seeing Jaden Daniels a third time here for Philadelphia, the more I've thought about this game, the more I've read about this game. This Washington story is incredible. He's incredible. I haven't liked what I've seen from Jalen hurts, but I think for Fangio to see this dude a third time is a massive advantage.
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Diana Rossini
It should be, but sure.
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Ryan Rosillo
I don't know.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, that. That fourth quarter, you know, they played in week 11 and week 16, and week 11 was when Daniels was having the injury stuff, and he didn't, you know, he had that little lull in the middle of the season. And I just remember watching that game and rewatching it and, like, there were plays to be made that he didn't make that he's been making the rest of the season. And so then you get to week 16 and they get the commanders for five takeaways, and you're like, all right, five takeaways, you're winning that game. You look at it statistically every time, but the commander scored touchdowns on, like, three of their final four possessions, and it was Daniels with his legs. I mean, that he had a 4th and 11 where he takes off for a 29 yard scramble. He had another 4th down where Jalen Carter. It's kind of what you were just talking about with the, hey, force a guy to, you know, scramble. They basically did that. And Jalen Carter's waiting for him, and he just sidesteps him. Takes off and picks up the first down. So I think in terms of game plan, the Eagles, this isn't a game where you're aggressive and blitz. Jaden Daniels, he has killed that all year. Been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL against the blitz and that's not how Fangio wants to play anyway. So I think it's a big game for, hey, their four man pass rush, Jalen Carter, the rest of those guys up front, they've got to control the game if they're going to contain Daniels.
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Ryan Rosillo
So I'm glad you brought that up because Daniels was at like just under 7% design runs in that Week 11 matchup. But that was strictly because of the rib injury. Yeah, like, you can see it in the play calling from Kingsbury where it's like, okay, this guy's banged up. And I think the only thing that we worry about with Daniels at this point, it's. It's not his whether or not he's going to be comfortable because he's already answered that numerous times all season long. I don't think he's like some of the other younger quarterbacks who put up numbers. It's like, yeah, but it just seems like there's real limitations on, like, where he can go with a football. That's not the case for him at all. I mean, he's, and he's carrying a team in a way a rookie quarterback has never carried a football team to bring them this far. And I brought it all up and Sando had the awesome numbers where it's like, look at Mark Sanchez, look at Rothlessberger, look at Flacco, look at what those teams are doing on defensive special teams and look at what Washington is not doing on defensive special teams. And here we go. They're a game away for playing in the Super Bowl. But the design runs have been cranked up here again. So I think it's a very different element of like getting ready for him where. And by the way too, like, what are you waiting for? You're not, you're not going to be protecting him for the rest of the season. You. You're trying to get to the super bowl here. So I think that design run thing really had way more to do with his ribs and Cliff trying to protect him in that first matchup than it would be any, any. Cause they've just let him go. I mean, we're talking about him at like over 15% design runs now in the two playoff games.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, it's. It's tough to prepare for the Whole offense. And it's all. It's because of him. You know, like, you can have the quarterback run game. He might be the best downfield passer in the end. I mean, his touch on these downfield passes is incredible. If you look at some of the advanced stats, he's top two, top three, and all of those. So. So you've got that he's able to attack the middle of the field. That was a question of him coming out of the draft as well. You know, does this guy throw to the middle of the field or is he. Because Jalen Hurts is a guy who does not throw to the middle of the field. And Jaden Daniels has done that at a very high rate. So he's been incredible. And the other thing with that offense is the rate at which they go no huddle. I think it's like over 60% of the time. And no other offense is above, I want to say, 25%. And so now they're getting to the line of scrimmage, and now you. You gotta be sound and all right, you're getting lined up and now, all right, is he keeping the ball? Is this play action? Are they going down? So it is a tough group to prepare for. And Jalen Carter for the Eagles plays, like over 90% of the snaps he's on. Like that Max Crosby plan of just never come. Come out of the game. I think that's a factor here, because if you're going no huddle and you don't have those breaks in between plays, does that limit his effectiveness? A little bit? So that's something to keep an eye on, because Carter took over that game against the Rams last week. Like, he made two plays on that final Rams possession, where if he doesn't make those plays, the Rams are in the NFC Championship. And we're talking about an amazing comeback. So that is one way where the commanders can say, hey, we don't have the best offensive line, but this is a way to maybe tire out, you know, the best defensive players on the other team.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. With Cosmi out, who's probably considered their best offensive lineman. And going up against Carter, Good luck with that. I have some other numbers that maybe I'll get to here, but I want to focus on Philly here because it hurts. We know that. I mean, look, he's 28 of 41, 259, no picks through two playoff games. He's got the two touchdowns. He's done it with his legs. The huge run against LA early to kind of set the tone There, but it hasn't been great. But he has real legitimate excuses, like, pick any of the three that I think are totally justifiable of, like, okay, sure, he hasn't looked good, but these mall might be reasons. You've watched him his whole career. What do you see?
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Diana Rossini
I think this is the most cautious version of Jalen Hurts we've ever seen as an NFL quarterback. You know, I think early in the season he had some games where he turned the football over. And then as a. I don't know if it was as a team, if it was a meeting, if. If it was just subconscious, but they said, hey, we've got Saquon Barkley, we've got the best offensive line in football, and our defense is coming on with Vic Fangio now. I think it's the best defense in football. Like, you don't have to be a superhero. Let's just not turn the football over. And that's at the expense of everything. Like, you watch these games. If he's not sure he's tucking the ball and running or taking a sack. He takes seven sacks last week in that game against the Rams. So it's either a scramble, a throwaway, or a Sack. It's only 25% of his past place. He's not even targeting a receiver, which is, you know, the highest rate in the NFL. So you can really take it both ways. I mean, you could say, hey, he's doing what's being asked of him, and he's doing what it takes to win. They literally have not lost a game he started and finished since September 29th. That's the last time he started and finished a game, and they lost. So you say, I understand why he's playing that way. You could also look at it and say, is it going to run out at some point? You know, when and if they do? And now they're in the NFC Championship. So maybe it's a stupid conversation, but it's not a pretty passing game. I mean, they had 65 net passing yards last week, and I know it was snowing. That's the lowest total for any team in a playoff game in the last 10 years. Like, everything we know about the modern NFL is you're not going to win a lot of games with 65 net passing yards. So this is kind of like a bizarro Eagles team. This is sort of, you know, stuff the nerds in the locker type team where they'll run the ball, offensive line defense, take all your passing numbers and who cares? They don't apply here. And so I keep waiting and waiting. I've had this conversation for months now. Can it last? It's going to catch up to them eventually. And now here they are one win away from the Super Bowl. So maybe I'm, you know, maybe I was off this whole season.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I mean, we definitely seem like we're removed from after the super bowl appearance against Kansas City again, they could have won where you went into the next year, and you look at the quarterbacks, we all start ranking them. And it was, okay. Jalen Hurts is the best in the nfc, who is second. And it was an accepted thing. And, you know, I wasn't, like, sitting there pounding the table, being like, this is not true. Here are all these other examples, and things change. Golf got better. Jane Daniels shows up. Baker has a resurgence. I think Stafford's probably always been better than him, but it's kind of weird how, how, like, the peak Stafford conversations happen and they seem to get destroyed by, like, the lows where I just appreciate the hell out of the guy. Like, even post Super Bowl, I start to, like, just appreciate how great this guy's career has been and what he provides this team. Like, he really is on that short list of the difference makers. He's not top five, but he's somebody who's like, okay, what are our problems? Let me try to get us through those. So this isn't the exercise or the way I'm presenting. This isn't to be like, hey, remember how crazy that was? But it. It felt like, I guess I'm of the mindset. Like, I've got to see it a little bit longer before I'm ready to just go, okay, this guy is like a top five dude. But then I think about the concussion, I think about the snow. He clearly was banged up. Wonder if the tush push is even part of the arsenal now because they didn't want to go to it. Maybe in game because he was banged up because of all the conditions. But this is an awesome group of skill guys. It's an awesome offensive line. He's got the rushing game to go with it. And watching it just feel like, you know, this is not somebody that should be managing. Like, not with. Not with these weapons. You could say, oh, they should manage because of the defense, because all the things that I just listed. But maybe, you know, maybe he'll just be healthier this week. And against the Washington defense, it should provide a few more opportunities because I think this Rams defense has really come along. They've done a great job as well. Talked about turning over one side of the football. Maybe we'll see it. Maybe we'll see with them. But I'm picking Philadelphia just because I think they'll be more comfortable. I don't know if they want to blitz Jaden the way Detroit did Detroit. I don't think you can really compare any team because of the personnel issues that the Lions were going to have on that side of the football. They didn't blitz them a lot the first time they played him. They blitzed him a ton. I think the Week 16 game is just such a weird game, but I guess you could argue, hey, when he needed to move the football down the field and score a touchdown against the number one defense, with all the other things that were weird about it, Jaden was able to do that. I just think for a third time to do it on the road, that's asking a lot.
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Diana Rossini
It's funny when you compare the two quarterbacks. Like, if the Commanders win this game, the only thing we're talking about is Jaden Daniels was Superman. Like, that is their path to win the game, is Jaden and the Eagles. We could be talking about them getting to the super bowl, and you and I could be having the same conversation in two weeks. Like, yeah, they're in the super bowl, but the passing game doesn't look really good. It just speaks to kind of what's being asked of each quarterback. You mentioned the offensive talent with the Eagles. I mean, it's the best collection of offensive talent they've had in my lifetime. I mean, it's ridiculous when you really look at it. Best offensive line probably in the NFL. AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, Saquon Barkley, Dallas Goddard. Like, it's just when you look at the position Jalen Hurts is in, you know, I'm sure other quarterbacks are watching this going, man, I wish I had one season in my entire career where I had that group. So I'm with you. Overall, I think these Eagles games have followed a similar, you know, blueprint for a lot of the season where you watch it and go, all right, the defense is playing well. You know, the passing game's not that great, but third or fourth quarter, AJ Brown makes a play, Saquon Barkley makes. All the guys I just mentioned, they have such a great collection of talent that at some point, one of those guys just does something and that flips the game, and all of a sudden they're up by 10 points and they win. So I like the Commanders with the points. You know, Eagles do have some Injuries. You mentioned the Hertz one. We don't know how mobile he's going to be in this game. He's playing with a knee injury. Their center, Cam Juergens, who took over for Kelsey, who's been really good, he's got a back injury. Goddard, you know, has an ankle injury. So there are some kind of. Not the main guys, but kind of the secondary guys have some injuries. And I just. If Jaden Daniels is an underdog in the playoffs right now, I'm just going to go ahead and take the points because he's been that good.
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Ryan Rosillo
My man. Again, Chapati, you can check him out. Philly Special and the Ringer NFL show every single week. Enjoy the weekend. We'll talk to you probably again soon. Here. Thanks.
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Diana Rossini
All right, man. Talk soon.
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Ryan Rosillo
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Shield Kapadia
Yeah, I felt that from the world, actually. There are some stories you break and you feel through Twitter somehow or even through some of my columns. I feel like everyone's looking at it. I didn't feel that yesterday. I think life is just wild for a lot of people, and I think on a Thursday, all of those factors played into it. So the drama is actually pretty incredible considering not a lot of people were paying attention to it. So let's just go back to when Liam Cohen met with the Jacksonville Jaguars. It was over, zoom. It was the typical initial interview, and he made it to the second round. And Liam Cohen knew that, and so did the Tampa Bay Bucks. So the Bucks have a conversation with him, and they say, look, we want you here. We want you to be our offensive coordinator. And he said, great, Cool. Pay me more money. So they were able to get that done and make him the highest paid offensive coordinator in football. All is well. He informs the Jags, thanks, but no thanks. I'm going to stay here. And I also think that there's a sentiment in Tampa Bay that Liam would be the coach in waiting if Todd Bowles were to, say, retire at some point or maybe even if they move on from him at some point over the next few years. So Tampa feels like they've got this on lock here because they've got a nice plan. So they agree to it verbally. Then they tell him, all right, come on in, come sign this contract, and let's. Let's get to work on your assistance and re upping their deals. And he said, yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there. So Tampa Bay's waiting for him to come into the office, and he doesn't show up. So they reach out to him. They reach out to his agent, and. And the agent informs Tampa Bay that, hey, look, he's dealing with some stuff, some personal things. He'll. He'll get there soon. Meantime, as this is all happening, the Jacksonville Jaguars made the decision to fire Trent Bulkey, something that we all knew was on the table at some point here. We just thought the timing of it would have been before Ben Johnson went to Chicago. We figured if Jacksonville was going to actually pull the trigger on this and, and move on from Trent Balky, it would be to go get the big dogs. So they waited. Obviously, Ben Johnson is now in Chicago. So Jacksonville makes this big move here. They decide to part ways with Trent Balky and they call Liam Cohen and they say, all right, here's what we got for you. You pick the gm, you can have all the power, and we're going to pay you buka bucks. Big time money, Ben Johnson type money.
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Ryan Rosillo
Which is what, 13 million a year at least. Okay. Because the Ben Johnson number, the stuff that's being reported is kind of weird because we're hearing about the first year salary and then we don't know the rest of it, but it's 13, which puts him like in the top seven.
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Shield Kapadia
Yes. So just for those that don't know, most first time head coaches are making 6, 7. I think some of the conversation, even before that second interview, we'll call it, with Liam, some conversations that the Jags were having with his agency was somewhere around 8, 9. So he was still going to make good money if he had signed on, you know, before all this went down. But now the stakes are different right now. It's different now. Yeah. We get, you want to coach a Baker. Yeah. You want to be the coach in waiting. But right now you can make some pretty big money here and have all the power and control. Unless Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco. So he gets on a plane, doesn't tell anybody. The Bucks don't know what's going on at all. Jacksonville is trying to keep this quiet because they still need to check off all the boxes for the Rooney role. They've already interviewed Robert Salah in person. So they. You have to interview two minority candidates for your head coaching position. So technically, even though it was the first round with Salah, that counts. So Salah checks one box of the Rooney role as a minority candidate. They need another one. Well, Patrick Graham was in the building on Thursday, so the Jags didn't want any of this to get out because they didn't want to scare off Graham and have him cancel the interview. Right. If he had known before, he probably would have canceled if he knew that they were going hard at Liam Cohen. So Cohen's in the building, Graham is in the building, and Graham winds up leaving. Cohen stays there, meets with Shad Khan, meets with the rest of the front office, and they decide, okay, this is it. We're going to do this. He gets back on a plane on Thursday night. He lands back in Tampa. He starts calling his assistants, and he calls the Bucks and says, sorry, I'm going back on my word here. I am going to be the head coach of the Jacksonville Jags. So this thing is pretty much done at this point. They're working out a couple little minor details, and I'm sure by the time this podcast drops, it'll. It'll be official.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, so I understand why people are upset, and I think if Liam is in a spot where Tampa's assuming that he's their OC with this huge raise for 48 hours, that's not ideal. But at the same time, it's not like he can tell them, be like, hey, actually, I guess I just don't really blame the guy from all of a sudden, like, he agreed to be the opposite coordinator when he didn't think that he was going to be the guy in charge of the Jags. And once Balky's out and now he's going to be making 13 million a year. Like, maybe they thought they were going to get him cheap the first time around. Like, I think it's a very easy thing to be critical of and not, like, the way he handled it or he should have done this and all the seven different things that people are upset about. But given the opportunity, if it were you, you would, like, most everybody would have done it this way. Even if there's a lot of parts of it that people don't like and criticize, and they're going to forget about all of them by the time September starts.
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Shield Kapadia
Now, remember, Shot Khan had to get him to get on that plane, right? So he had to say to him, you're going to get the power. You're getting Ben Johnson type money. And he got him to do it, and they closed it. Once he was in the building, they knew if they could just get him in there. And look, so much of this is the PR side to this for the Jags, right? They missed out on Ben Johnson because they decided to stick with Trent Bulkey. They missed out on Mike Vrabel. They weren't fast enough to even get that moving. Not that that was actually a real option. So for them, this, observing this and also just having conversations with people around the league over the last 24 hours, it just felt desperate. It felt panicked.
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Ryan Rosillo
That's fair. Yeah.
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Shield Kapadia
Right.
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Ryan Rosillo
And, like, how did you. How did you tell him that Balki was still going to be there, and then you're like, wait, you turned us down, so now we're firing our GM and now you're in charge? And what? He's 39 years old. He was coaching Kentucky's offense two years ago. So, I mean, he's. He's been terrific. But, yes, that's. That's a lot to hand to a dude. Just because you were afraid everybody else was going to say, no, I don't. I don't know. I mean, unless he's just that brilliant.
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Shield Kapadia
I always go back to the Sean McVay problem we have in the NFL. It's the constant search for him and the belief that this is the one. This is. This is. This is the next Sean, and I'm going to be the one to find it. I don't necessarily believe that was their approach here. I think their approach was like, let's hope. I mean, I. If he could be a. A diet Sean McVay, like, that's. That's a win for the Jacks at this point, based on how this all came together. But I think this is the theme. Like, when we look back on this coaching cycle, to me, it feels messy, desperate, anxious, and scattered. Very few teams had a plan going into this, and it shows.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, let's talk about some of the other jobs. You once said to me, I think it's one of the nicest compliments I've ever gotten was that you thought that I was a lot like Mike Vrabel. What? I still can't believe Tennessee let this guy go. I think he's that good of a coach. The quarterback situation was challenging. The roster wasn't all that great, and they were in it all the time. I mean, we can go over and make. Make some knocks here or there, but, like, that team was not as good as those other AFC teams. And you go back to the year they were the one seed and all that kind of stuff. I. I think the Patriots clearly were like, let's. Let's not screw around with this. I'd be surprised if. I mean, granted, we'll see what happens with the rest of the roster, because it's one of the worst rosters in the NFL. But I'd be surprised if it doesn't work, because they're going to have a really. They're going to be obviously patient in a way. They weren't with Mayo because of the relationship.
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Shield Kapadia
Yeah, you. You should scream to the world. In fact, you should put it on any dating app if you are on one that Someone once said that you're like Mike Vrabel. Like, that's a win. It's like when people. Somebody once said I look like Sloan from Entourage. Like, I will take that all.
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Ryan Rosillo
That's a good one.
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Shield Kapadia
That it's a great one. We both know that is not what I look like, but I will allow anyone to believe that.
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Ryan Rosillo
Be nice to my friend Diana, please.
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Shield Kapadia
I know, I know. All the listeners are going to now Google me, be like, oh, she looks like Sloan if she got hit by six trucks. Look, I think this coaching cycle, Mike Frable was the number one candidate for every single team. And that's what I discovered over the last few weeks, really. So let's just go back to the start of when he began interviewing. If you remember, he essentially had his contract terminated with Cleveland so he could get ahead and start interviewing with owners. And the jets were the first ones to get him in the building. And all the credit in the world to New York, by the way, for doing that, knowing that he had tons of options and tons of teams that wanted to meet with him. And New York was like, get here, sit with us, come in the building. I don't care if Jeff Ulbrich is out on the field practicing with the team, get in the building. We want you to feel New York. We want you to feel the Jets.
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Ryan Rosillo
And what are the jets feel like Madden?
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Shield Kapadia
I don't know.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right. I just would. I. If I were running the Jets, I would frame it differently. Want you, want you to know what it's like. It's not. Has been great, right?
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Shield Kapadia
That's what's so great about some of these teams is they are so un. They lack awareness. Like, they still think of themselves as being the. The jets of the 80s. You know, it's like, guys, look what you just went through the last few years. Like, in my opinion, you should probably go to Mike Rabel's house so he doesn't have to do anything. So you can just get on your hands and knees and just beg, you know, but hey, maybe, you know, they have a really cool facility or like a good weight room now. They do have a facility. They do, they do. I'll give them that great cafeteria they feed the media. We like that. So I think, and this is from talking to people at the Jets, Rabel just blew them away. Like they had no idea what to expect. And they had toyed around with it the year before because, remember, he was fired from the Tennessee Titans, kind of surprisingly. And they weren't sure about Robert Saleh. Remember, it's. That's when it started to get weird. So I think this was an interesting experiment because I wonder now if they're like, man, we could. We could have had this wrapped up. We could have did this last year if we just made a move. So either way, he goes to New York, meets with them. He apparently really liked Woody. Woody loved him. I heard that Woody had a couple other head coach interviews and he was talking about Vrabel with the candidates. Like, imagine you're at a job interview and he's like, man, you know who's great? Like, I would just be like, I don't want to be here, man. Like, I would be so intimidated, like, if I was meeting with like the athletes.
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Ryan Rosillo
Sounds like a lot of my. My radio meetings where they'd be like, you know who's really good is Cowherd and Green. No, they are good, man.
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Shield Kapadia
Gosh.
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Ryan Rosillo
All right, go ahead.
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Shield Kapadia
Only you were Laura Rutledge. So yeah, so he winds up leaving New York and I think New. I think the jets were actually on his radar. I think this was a great example of where an in person interview for both sides is just. Just works. So, you know, the teams like the Bears, who, even though they could get Frable in the building, they just decided to zoom with him, which to me, that. That's a fail. You're. That's stupid. Why would you not want somebody in the building when you know you want them either way? I heard he crushed that too. They were trying to hire him. All right, so then you had the Saints and the Jags and even the Cowboys doing some work behind the scenes. McCarthy wasn't out yet, but they were keeping an eye on it. So Jerod Mayo gets fired on Sunday and Robert Kraft just moves the train as fast as he possibly can, knowing that all these teams are. Are closing in and essentially giving Variable the power, the money, everything he wants. And that's going to be tough to walk away from. But the Patriots have Drake May, and I think in the end that that's really what was the. The deciding factor for Rabel, just the way Caleb Williams was the deciding factor for Ben Johnson.
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Ryan Rosillo
And by the way, I misspoke a little bit when I talked about, like, the relationship with Rabel because it goes back further, but certainly it wasn't like Mayo came out of nowhere because that who been kind of planned out for a while. It doesn't work. And I would think now because of the mistake of Gerard Mayo, I think the Crafts would probably try to approach this a little bit Differently, as you pointed to already, with the power and what they would have to do to outbid everybody else. Yeah.
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Shield Kapadia
And just my observation of the celebration of this hire, just, even just on their social media feeds, you can tell, you can feel it, that they know they got this right and they're trying to make up for the fact that they made a mistake. And credit to Craft for being so open about that. Like, I hired someone who wasn't ready is what he said. Which, you know, that's tough, obviously, for Jerod Mayo to hear, but. But I think making this move, you don't see this a lot with owners. You very rarely see owners go, you know, this is a guy I picked. This is the guy who was in the way, you know, that. That we groomed to become the head coach. And, oh, wait, we missed. And so, in a way, he was lucky that he had the best coach that was available that wanted to return really, to New England.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, Aaron Glenn, then with the jets, we know his history. Decorated, same deal, kind of his variable going back to the same franchise. So the thing is, like, even if we're going through the variable history here with the Jets, I don't feel like anybody should look at Glenn's hiring as some kind of concession. Maybe it's not the headliner name that Frable is, but this guy's done an awesome job for a while here. So I can't. I can't imagine like anybody feels like they're let down by this inside that building.
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Shield Kapadia
No, but I equate it to when I got married, the best piece of advice I got when I was dress shopping was do not go to Vera Wang and try on, you know, a $20,000 dress. Because a. You're not going to. You're not buying a $20,000 wedding dress. Like, I wasn't in the market for that expensive of address. My price range was like. I think it was like $3,000. Because if you try on the great thing, it's so hard to go to the store that, you know, has the cheaper dresses that aren't as great. So I. I actually think that that Rebel interview was. Was not good for the jets because they saw something that they wanted, that they believed in, they were all in on. And then it became difficult. And you saw that, right? Because look how many candidates they interviewed. They just kept going through, kept going through, like comparing, comparing, comparing, comparing. But to give Aaron Glenn all the credit, he. He kind of had to live up to this. And he did. In terms of the excitement in that building of after they met with him the first time, they were like, okay, not only do we love the fact that he is about what we've been looking for, because that was another thing that jets had shared with me. It wasn't that they were going through all these candidates because they were unsure of what to do. They knew exactly what they wanted and nobody was living up to it. Nobody was coming through. And Aaron Glenn did. And the fact that Aaron Glenn wanted them, come on. That's always a factor when you want them. It makes you feel good and it makes Woody feel good and it makes Christopher Johnson feel good. And I think that really helped with all this. But in terms of the kind of coach you're getting, look, they've got tons of decisions to make. They've got Aaron Rodgers, they got to figure that out. And then they've got tons of free agents they got to deal with, but in terms of roster, they have talent. I'd much rather be the head coach of the New York jets right now than the New York Giants.
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Ryan Rosillo
I agree with you on that. Talent. I actually think they've done a really good job, but the whole thing's been kind of held hostage by the Aaron Rogers thing the last two years. So there you go. Do they want him back? Do they want Rogers back?
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Shield Kapadia
I don't think so. I, I think he's so divisive and he's still talented. Like, I still believe Aaron Rodgers is going to play and I want him to like, I want to see more Aaron Rodgers football. I just think the jets know that this was something they went all in on. It didn't work. And trying to bleed this out, I think could just make it more complicated, especially with a new head coach, a whole new regime. They want new vibes. But in the same regard, when you look at the quarterback market right now in the situation, it's not, it's not awesome. That, that's, that's a problem. It's. It's why you're seeing so many coaches run to teams with quarterbacks. Because it just doesn't look good.
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Ryan Rosillo
No, it's. It's great because I think when you started mapping it out with this draft and everything else, you're like, okay, you know, there actually may be a team that's willing to take on Kirk Cousins, and I don't know financially how that'll work out for Atlanta, because the guaranteed money on the front end of the two years, because it really was crafted as kind of a two year deal, not a four year deal, but there's Going to be a market for some of these guys that like teams already ready to move on from because there's just not enough people. There's just not enough because of this draft class and because of the free agency stuff. All right, I want to stay on this though, because I think the lesson in this is the Raiders just announced that they hired Pete Carroll, three year deal, fourth year team option on that. So they're committed to a 73 year old here. And anybody that's around Pete is like, look, he comes in the building and everything's different. So maybe this is what they wanted. I think there's a bunch of different things, so I'll just kind of let you go wherever. It's obvious that like the Patriots having Drake may, as you mentioned, that helps for able. Ben Johnson gets to go to Chicago not only for all the money, but because Caleb Williams is there and the Raiders have nothing to offer at that position. So even though I've heard about this Tom Brady zoom thing with Ben Johnson where I imagine like, that is a great recruiting pitch, like I imagine Brady sitting down talking football with you and wanting to hire you is a positive, I don't know how it could be spun as a negative unless there's stuff going on in the zoom that none of us like. We would hear about it eventually. If it's like Brady. Brady doesn't have that kind of personality, I don't think he's off putting. I don't think he'd be some. He's so so about football that I think any other football person would be so into it. And you're like, this is awesome, but I'd rather go coach Caleb Williams. So. Thanks, Tom. Thanks for the interest. So take me through some of the Raider stuff here.
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Shield Kapadia
Yeah, Let. Let's just start with making it really clear that Tom Brady is running everything in Vegas. Okay? It. This is all. It's all Tom Brady. This is not like, you know, I think there's some rumors, some chatter. I'm telling you, this is all Tom Brady there. I mean, even his own, like, TB12 programs are being installed there, so to speak. Alex Guerrero's out there. He's going to be working with some of the players. Right. So he is trying to do it and change the Raiders and, and have a tremendous amount of influence on them. And. And I'm sure you and I could probably debate whether or not that's a good thing or not. My instinct is, yeah, I mean, the guy knows how to win, obviously. Why not listen to him? I'd Rather listen to Tom Brady's call on everything than Mark Davis. No disrespect to Mark, but Tom has a thought, an idea. He understands what it takes. Now, that being said, he's not working with a lot there in terms of. We know they don't have a quarterback, their roster's not great. I mean, outside Max Crosby, there's not Bowers. Oh, yeah, yeah, there you go. So the pitch to Ben Johnson has to be layered in Britishms. Right. And Ben Johnson had to feel like, we're going to do this the right way and I'm going to do this with you. We're in lockstep. We're together, we're a team. Not so much. I'm owner, your coach. And I think that was really enticing to Ben Johnson, who was. Has been very hesitant to hopping into this head coaching space. Super. You know, we talk about some people, some teams, lacking self awareness. I think he has tremendous awareness, Ben Johnson, which is why he has spent so many years not just learning how to lose, but learning how to win. That was like a big part of his growth of how to handle success, because it's just as challenging sometimes is losing with. With loss. And he took a lot from Dan Campbell and I think we saw that in the press conference. I mean, he obviously wasn't like breaking kneecaps, but I heard a lot of phrases and lingo that was like, well, that's definitely Detroit, which is a good thing. But I get why Brady was after him. And Brady was enamored with him. He thought he was a brilliant coach. And. And it was real. And Sunday, so Saturday, Detroit loses, obviously, kind of in a surprising way. So everyone's scrambling around the league. Oh, my gosh, Ben Johnson's available now. We're like, here we go. The. The hiring cycle's about to go because obviously Aaron Glenn as well. And Sunday, from what I was told, Ben Johnson basically just spent time trying to figure out what he wanted to do. This was not. I'm calling Chicago and going. It wasn't until late Sunday, early Monday, that he started to then go, shit, I need a quarterback. Like, I need a quarterback that. Forget all the Brady stuff. Forget outscore. Forget. Forget all of it. All of it. I need a quarterback. And it makes all the sense of the world, right? When you take a step out of it, you're like, why wouldn't you go to Chicago? Of course you're going to pick the Raiders over the Bears right now. And you know, and you want this to be a successful run. For yourself. So for the Raiders, now, they scramble Ben Johnson. They. They fire Tom Tesco, the gm, because they know Ben Johnson wants to have some say in who's going to be the general manager. She doesn't want all the power, but he wants a say. So they're like, well, you don't want Tesco, so let's get rid of him. Well, now Ben Johnson's in Chicago. They don't have a gm, and they don't have a head coach. So Brady calls his old friend John Spytek in Tampa Bay. They know each other from Michigan, and obviously they were in Tampa Bay together when he was the quarterback there. So brings him in, hires him as a gm, and they're scrambling. Like, up until two days ago, I had somebody in the building say, we have no idea what we're doing. Like, they had no idea what direction that Brady wanted to go in in terms of a head coach. And they land on Pete. And this September, Pete will be the oldest NFL head coach to ever coach in an NFL game at 73 years old. And, you know, as you touched on the energy that everything he brings, it makes sense. Three year deal. I could. I could totally see this being a situation where this is a placeholder, where Pete comes in, straightens it up, cleans up some of the mess that was left behind, gets this thing on the right track, and, hey, if he has success with it, great. Let's run this thing out until he's 80. But if he could at least get this thing up on its feet, then maybe in a year or two or two, the hot coordinator can come in and Brady can go. Can go then go get his guy.
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Ryan Rosillo
Bud Grant was 58 when he was done. And when I was a kid and I watched those NFL films, like, man, is anybody older than Bud Grant, right?
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Shield Kapadia
My dad's 70, okay? He's so annoying and slow and just like, something's off with him all the time. Like. Like something's wrong. He said he's healthy, he's fine. He's great. But I. Oh, I can't help. I understand. This is different. My father's a plumber. Okay, I get it. But every time, even when Bill was. Belichick, was. Was in the mix a little bit, and we were hearing chatter. I just. I would look at my dad on my couch and just think, imagine my dad, like, out on the field. Like, there's no chance. The guy complains when he has a press conference. Oh, that's the best one. I mean, this is somebody.
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Ryan Rosillo
I think about that sometimes.
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Shield Kapadia
Right. Like how he would answer Pat Riley.
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Ryan Rosillo
Pat Riley's like, pissed off about Jimmy Butler. And then I'll think about, I can't believe you just brought this up. Cause I do it too. Sometimes I'm like, this guy's like the same age as my dad and he's answering. But I think the difference would be my dad hasn't been doing it for 40, 50 years. So of course, maybe, yeah.
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Shield Kapadia
But when I call my dad at 4:00 on a Tuesday to ask him something, like to help me out with something, and he's like, I'm watching Judge Judy, call me later. It's like, yeah, you're not going to ever be a head coach.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay. I still have a couple of quick things that I want to do. The Dallas timeline, it seems like it's going to be Schottenheimer. So what is there? What's interesting about this?
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Shield Kapadia
What's interesting is there's no plan. Okay. It's all about progress.
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Ryan Rosillo
Is that true or do people just like ripping on Jerry Jones?
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Shield Kapadia
I don't like ripping out Jerry Jones, actually. I have found, and I found it all season. I, I, I don't know why I just stick up from. Because I love the way they put together rosters. I don't love the way they deal with the business side of it in terms of contracts, but they know players and they've built really good teams over the last few seasons. So that's probably why I side with him, because at least the GM knows what he's doing. I know some Mrs. Derrick Henry. I know Cowboys fans are screaming at me like, oh, we didn't get a running back. I get it. But all in all, pretty good. I don't think Jerry Jones really thought Mike McCarthy would walk. I don't think he thought that Mike would go, you know what? This ain't working for me. I'm not going to do this. Because that's what happened. They met, they were talking football. And in these meetings, McCarthy's thinking to himself, he's not invested in me. This isn't a long term situation. I'm done with this. And so I think the tone for both of them was like, I never really liked you that much anyway. Well, I didn't really like you that much anyway either. Let's just go our separate ways. But when you do that, just like a relationship, if you don't have a backup plan, you're left out there in the wild trying to figure it out.
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Ryan Rosillo
Right?
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Shield Kapadia
So he calls Deion Sanders. And I think that was A panic move, I think that was. Let me just see. Let me just feel it and see if maybe there's an opportunity. And obviously that's died down since. So he goes from the big name college coach. And I was. For the Dion hire. I love that. I thought that was a great idea. To now hiring the offensive coordinator of the head coach that you fired like that. How does that not scream? I have no idea what I'm doing.
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Ryan Rosillo
I'm with you. I'm with you. You've convinced me. I just think that sometimes, no matter what they do, it's like, oh, these guys are idiots and Jerry's an idiot. And like, some of the stuff, some of the criticisms are true, but the McCarthy part of it, you know, you just. They need to plan a little bit better, at least on this transaction.
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Shield Kapadia
I'm fine, but he's. He's fine.
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Ryan Rosillo
Sometimes everybody is right, by the way. You know, it actually does. Even though you can sit there and be like, I'm going to fade what everybody else is doing, but sometimes everybody's right, and maybe everybody's right about this.
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Shield Kapadia
I don't look like Sloan.
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Ryan Rosillo
I'd say that we're not even done. That would have been a great way to wrap it up. We can't win.
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Shield Kapadia
Everybody's right. So I was saying. I was trying to take that advice. Not advice that.
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Ryan Rosillo
I'm not going to hit on you on the podcast. I know you're married. Let's.
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Shield Kapadia
Is that a thing? Do you hit on your kiss?
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Ryan Rosillo
No.
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Shield Kapadia
Women. You have, like, two women a year, by the way. We have to talk about that.
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Ryan Rosillo
We have more than that. That's not fair. That's not fair.
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Shield Kapadia
Now, truth be told, I. I shouldn't have vocalized that because I do kind of like being. Oh, one of. Yeah, you know, I can be territorial.
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Ryan Rosillo
Having the attention, you know, jealousy.
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Shield Kapadia
You know, I'm a psycho.
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Ryan Rosillo
I wonder if people are going to listen to this and be like, what just happened on this?
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Shield Kapadia
They're gonna be like, what is happening?
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Ryan Rosillo
All right, New Orleans, we can't leave out my second hometown here. What's going on?
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Shield Kapadia
So they interviewed defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver out of Miami. He met with them on Thursday. Mike McCarthy is going to meet with them next week. They are kind of moving a little slower. But I also think that they've got their eye on Joe Brady, obviously the Bills offensive coordinator who's going to be playing in the AFC Championship game this weekend. So I think for people wondering about the Saints, this thing is going to pick up steam after, after this weekend, I think then this thing will kind of get, will clear up and, and they'll have some answers, but they're the last ones left.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, before we finish here, in all your talks leading up to the, the, the pre coaching carousel moment, what was considered the best job by people in the NFL?
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Shield Kapadia
So the New England Patriots job was never, it was always like the asterisk, like if they, if they move on from Gerard Mayo. That's the job that was, that was always explained to me from all the different candidates because I, that was always a question I asked like. And I would have some of these guys put it in order just the way you asked me. Jacksonville actually got way more love from guys interviewing than I expected. And that was because they have a good defense and, and Trevor Lawrence, because that was something that I was thinking about a lot during this of why isn't Jacksonville getting a lot of attention and from, from these coaches? And my thought was maybe, yeah, the Trent Buckey thing, but maybe this is more telling of Trevor Lawrence. You know, is this something that was.
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Ryan Rosillo
Picking up momentum when column didn't go and then when he, you know what I mean? You're right. Like, I'm glad you picked because I, I don't believe like Trevor Lawrence is going to suck. Like, I'm still kind of shocked that it was. He's had this other second bad year where you're like, what the hell is going on with him? And then for people that hate him and be like, hey, this is all you need to know. And it's like, okay, well what happens then when Cohen ends up taking the job? Does that mean Trevor Lawrence is, is better than he was 48 hours ago? And the answer is that all of that is irrelevant because he took the job because of other dynamics that have nothing to do with the quarterback, but it didn't scare him away from the whole thing. But I think that's a really interesting point that you're telling me. Consensus is that it was a better job than the way it was maybe playing out once a second guy had, had walked away. An offensive guy.
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Shield Kapadia
Yes, I, I do think the worst job in all of this, it was the Raiders. The Raiders were there, the jets were close.
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Ryan Rosillo
But that's a talent thing. Is the Brady thing considered a positive?
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Shield Kapadia
The Brady is a positive and it certainly carried some weight. Obviously he was getting Ben Johnson. They were operating in Las Vegas like he was going to be the coach. That's how far along the conversations were and how connected I guess Brady felt with Ben Johnson like that. That's what I actually want to find out. Like, what was Ben Johnson's conversation with Brady when he called him was like, ah, man, going to Chicago. Caleb, baby, go get, go get a quarterback. Because how many people have told Tom Brady no, right? Like, probably not a lot. So I think.
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Ryan Rosillo
Go ahead.
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Shield Kapadia
I think in the end, because Mayo got fired, you know, I can now say comfortably, I still think that that position is the most enticing because the amount of money that they can spend here in the off season and ownership, too, you can say what you want about the crafts around the, around the league. Most people respect what they've done. How could you not?
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, I respect your time. So thank you so much during this busy part of the season for you for doing this again. Check out Scoop City her and chase Daniel out every week and you can read all of her stuff. Breaking news on the athletic, the great Diana Rossini. Thank you.
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Shield Kapadia
Thanks, guys.
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Ryan Rosillo
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So going into that game, like, if you've been watching these two teams and I'll start kind of on the Boston side and fill in, finish with the Lakers side, because Lakers were terrific last night. They just smoked them, like from kind of the jump. First quarter, they were up like 10 points and that was kind of the game. So there wasn't really this momentum thing you're so used to seeing in NBA games. You're like, all right, well that team's down like 18. They'll get back into this thing. And it just never happened. Which might be the most alarming thing beyond just a score and thinking the Celtics after, even though they had the overtime game the night before against the Clippers, there were people that weren't playing. And you figure, okay, they're going to be really up for this one. And this might be the kind of win if Boston gets in la. And look, it's just an awesome crowd in there. There's also a ton of Celtics fans inside of Crypto, but the Lakers fans are awesome. And so there's. There's a feeling, like, there's a feeling. I've been in enough buildings where you can tell the difference and be like, all right, this is, this is going to be interesting here because Boston's been struggling based on their standards. So if we look at Boston season right now, and I don't really have a massive answer for you on what's going on, I have a couple theories that I'll share with you. I also, if you've been listening to me long enough, there's not going to ever be like a single game. Rarely is there a single game that happens where I'm like, okay, this game means all of these things. And now this is how I think the rest of the season is going to play out. But I think there's a lot of positives in here for the Lakers, Anyway. Boston starts 19 and 4 on the season. They're now 31 14, so they've been a 12 and 10 basketball team. If we look at their season numbers, they're the number three offense in the NBA still. They're the number five defense. Those things are really good. The last 15, you know, at one point it was, I think, an 8 and 7 record in there. Now it's 9 and 6. The offense during that time is fifth. The defense is fourth. The net rating is third behind only OKC and Denver. Denver, by the way, 12 and 3 in their last 15, which is this. They're tied with with Cleveland and Oklahoma City. You've heard about them at 12 and 3. Also, Denver's just on a really nice push here, and it's crazy. They have their guys and they're healthy and Jamal Murray's not playing terribly, and that's a pretty good basketball team. Even if we still don't like the depth and like anybody, I could still go through a list of like five or six things that I'm worried about with them. But Denver is starting to make that push because we had talked about the west depth so much before the season started, and as it started playing out, it's like, well, it's. It's not really the depth, it's the unknown. After Oklahoma City, I mean, Dallas is going to be really good when everybody's healthy. They're a mess right now physically and they're still competing in some of these games. Minnesota, on the other hand, it's probably the team I'm the most worried about because they've been way healthier than almost all these other teams and yet it doesn't look very good. So I'll probably do another Minnesota deep dive. I have stuff that I've written down, but it's not going to fit here anyway. So back to Boston. So what's going on? If you're top five in offense and defense, the net rating is third. Like what's happening? Well, some of the clutch offensive stuff that I look, I even complained about it last year and they won an NBA title, so it didn't end up being some fatal flaw for them. But they're 13th in shooting over that stretch. There's another thing here. If you look at that stretch, they're 29th in pace. That makes them the second slowest team as far as, you know, the rate that they're playing at, which is ahead of only Orlando. You want a little Magic minute? Orlando is now last in offense in their last 15 games through a 4 and 11 stretch. Yes, they're just getting Palo back. They are missing other people. Franz is coming back. But that offensive number for Orlando in the last 15 is 100.8 points per possession. To put that in perspective, that's two and a half points worse than Brooklyn. So Orlando's offense is the worst and they're two and a half points worse per 100 than the Brooklyn Nets who don't want to win and get rid of anybody that can help them win. So or plan on it with the rest of them. And to also look at that number, like if you look at the Overall not last 15 games for the Magic, they're the second worst offense in the NBA ahead of only Washington, another team not trying to win a ton of games. But over the season, Orlando was like at 108 points per 100 possessions, which is 29th. They're like 8 points off of that. 8, 7 or 8 points off of that over these last 15 games. It's been abysmal for them. All right, so what does this mean on the pace thing for Boston? Well, what were they last year? Well, they were 19th. So okay, they're playing slower. Does that mean anything? Again, I'm going to throw a bunch of things and then hit it with some observations. But it wasn't like they were the 7 seconds or less Suns last year. What else? Well, they're 14th on the season now, three point shooting. Okay, last year, where were they? Well, they were second behind OKC at 38.8%. OKC was 38.9%. So we're talking about the team is, you know, right there being one of the best three point shooting teams in the entire league. Last year, if you look at the individual shooting, Tatum is down, Jalen Brown is down. Porzingis, in 20 games, it's the same. Derrick White is down. Drew Holliday is way down, three point shooting, Horford significantly down. Sam Houser's down a few spots. You're talking about six regulars and Pozingus being the same that are collectively down, which is kind of weird that everybody would just be below what they were shooting before. Only Pritchard is up out of the guys that really play. But I think specific to last night and something that I've noticed is that what I do like about Boston is that, you know, they're going to figure out the mismatch and they're going to put their finger on the hurt part and just keep a tacking and offering up some pain. But they were so determined to get Poingis going last night that I think it threw them off. Where Pozingis on that deep catch where he ends up with a perimeter player on him, it's just so small. Like, seeing it in person, you're just like, this dude is below his armpits and he's reaching up. And Brzingis kind of shows you the basketball to remind you how much taller he is than you, that he's going to get this shot off. But as everybody's waiting for Porzingis to finish the execution of what the plan was, nobody's doing anything. No one's doing anything. They're just kind of waiting to see if Porzingis is going to score. And Porzingis had a really nice first quarter, but whenever it becomes an offense that's so determined to be like, okay, here's the thing that we're identifying and then we're going to do this. And now, because that's the plan, everybody else may just be kind of like waiting around to see if it works, I think all of that stuff becomes connected. And I'm not saying, like, this is their downfall because they worked the Przingis mismatches early in the game, and this is what's been going on here for a month. But that I thought was very specific last night for that game where you're like, I get what you're doing and It. It may be working here, but it feels a lot like there's something identified. Boston goes to attack it. And because everybody knows that that's what the plan is, then nobody else is really doing anything. And there's. They're too good. The spacing is too good, the shooters are too good. They're too good of a basketball team where this is just what they're going to be now. They're going to lose to somebody in the second round of the playoffs. Like, I'm not even close to that yet. So the shooting thing, I can't imagine is going to stay this bad. I don't know if the pace thing necessarily matters. I'm not against the idea of hunting mismatches, but can you hunt mismatches so much that you disrupt any kind of flow? Again, that's a working theory, and I'm sure somebody on the staff would tell me, actually, we meant to do this and all these different things, and here's what, you know, whatever. I'm just a guy sitting there watching basketball. The third quarter, Boston came out with all sorts of energy. They got a great stop, throw it out of bounds the next play. And then they have a stretch where it looks like Tatum and Brown are going to get more aggressive, start attacking. You could see their aggression and their intensity pick up. Then they miss four straight free throws. There's a play in the third quarter where Tatum is like, isoed with Anthony Davis, which I think happened way too much. And he had to hit a step back three on Davis as the shot clock was going down. He made it. And my thought beyond, like, what an incredible shot. It was a constant theme of last night, of that's so hard. Like, that's so hard if that's what you have to go to. And even though it went in and Tatum is ridiculous like that, that's what it was. And I think it's a massive credit to how prepared the Lakers were last night. They played their asses off. Whether they got into bad switches, somebody who was physically at a disadvantage, the way they fought to just keep their. Their ground, the grappling. It was a really physical game, too. Like whatever was happening, say off a miss and that kind of like not fast break, but that transition push where you're trying to figure out a cross match, that's off or somebody's getting ahead of somebody else. The Lakers, notoriously, like, over the years, just didn't get back on defense. So you'd think, okay, let's look for that if you're the Celtics. But Whenever that was happening and somebody was hoping to get like a deep catch or deep position, whoever it was, good defender, bad defender for the Lakers, they fought like crazy to keep their position. And it was really physical. I thought the Lakers were incredibly prepped, and when they got a bad mismatches, guys fought. And sometimes it's that simple. And then you could talk about the Lakers offense because everybody seemed to be able to fill it up last night. I thought that was a really impressive Lakers game. And I think the Lakers are a weird team in the sense that, like, I'm guilty of it too. If they're not a title team, we're just like, they stink because the standard is so high. Because it's the Lakers, it's the history, it's LeBron, right? It's all the things that were like, well, could they win a title? So when they can't, then I know I'm kind of like dismissive, like, well, they're not okc, they're not Denver. I don't think they're Minnesota when they're right. I don't think they're Dallas. I'm not even sure if they're Phoenix. And the Clippers keep winning more games than I think most of us ever expected. So what happens in the Lakers analysis that we don't appreciate, like, the good things about them because we're just, like, convinced they can't win a title. So what's the point of talking about LeBron James and this team? And that's fine because, like, for some teams, it's incredibly unfair and you'd rather have it be that fair because that is your standard and those are the expectations. None of us had those expectations for this team. I don't think they're winning a title with this group. I don't know what's going to happen at the trade deadline. I don't know if there's a piece there that fixes them and brings them to that next level. But I think for a night in watching this Lakers team, I. I was really, really impressed with this group. Offensively, they're 13th this year, 21st on defense, which is another thing, to see him play defense and fight like that in some of those, those mismatch. Look, there were just a lot of times we're like, oh, this might not go good. And then all of a sudden you see somebody, Lakers, just fighting his ass off. Oh, Celtics missed a lot of layups, but they're not a defensive team. Last year they were 17th on defense, 15th on offense. So a lot of Those numbers are the same, 24 and 18 now they are the 5 seed this morning. They were 21 and 21 last year. I just like this team a little bit better. I love a lot of the stuff that they're doing when they are setting up their offense, setting up their offenses is a lot to ask of Austin Reeves at this point. I still think some of the LeBron point guard stuff is probably the best that they look on offense. And not having D'Angelo Russell just muck up all of their stuff, him just being gone. Even if Finney Smith is a diminished version of the best years of him in Dallas, I think that's just a win in general. And I know that Shams had the story yesterday that people around the league were saying that Anthony Davis, LeBron getting a little frustrated about wanting some help and wanting to have the Lakers front office go all in on this team. Which, you know, again, makes sense when you look at their timeline with LeBron. And I think what happens is like, if you hate LeBron, you're like, here we go again. If you don't like Anthony Davis, you'd be like, well, I learned it by watching you, because AD learned from LeBron, like, this is what you're supposed to do. You supposed to put pressure on ownership in the front office and all this stuff. But you just wonder the power of pressure as we get towards the deadline with LeBron. Because if they don't do anything, we're going to get this cryptic stuff, which I think is just really unfortunate for a guy, that it's going to be going down as probably one of the two best players to ever play this game. But whatever sway operates done his entire career, it's not the whole picture, but it's just a small little slice of the whole thing. Blame pie here. But when you think about the way LeBron and the relationship is talked about with the Lakers, you know, you could say, well, they brought JJ in, they drafted his son, you know, they kind of do whatever he wants. They did the Westbrook trade when it looked like they had the other trade with Buddy Heel. That probably made more basketball sense than the Westbrook deal, and then they get Westbrook out of there. But I'd say after Westbrook, I think there's an argument to be made that the Lakers have actually been really patient and patient in a way that makes more sense because once they had more control over their own draft picks, going back to last year's draft, you're like, oh, they'll probably do something. And then they didn't do anything. And if you look at the trade marketplace right now, there's a lot of names of guys that I've never been able. Well, not able to stand as harsh, but there's just a lot of guys that are not resolo guys. How about that? Like, oh, yeah, he's available. No way. And I don't even know financially how much the Lakers could put together. That makes sense for them. And so you start talking about, like, well, they would. They actually move, like a couple of their. Their good players, you know, outside of LeBron and AD to try to add that third piece. So financially, there's some restraints there. But it'll be interesting to see how this thing plays out because there's two dueling thoughts on what the Lakers will do with LeBron. Draft his kid, bring in JJ, gave him a $102 million contract for two years. That should show some kind of commitment to him. But it's been a little while now, and we'll see what happens that first week of February. But it's been a little while now where they haven't been as aggressive as he certainly wants them to be. And the idea that, like, hey, let's just make a trade to make him happy. You don't have to. You gave him the 102 million and he's 40 years old. He's not 35. But I liked. I liked what I saw from the Lakers last night. Even if I know that the end of the conversation is, well, how good do you think they are? And it's like, well, I don't think they're that good, but it was good for a night. 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Diana Rossini
You want details?
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Ryan Rosillo
Fine.
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Ceruti
I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet.
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Ryan Rosillo
What's up?
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Kyle
I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork.
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Ryan Rosillo
I have every toy you can possibly imagine.
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Ceruti
And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible.
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Ryan Rosillo
Let me tell you what's required. What's up? We missed you guys. I'm gone for a couple days. With the different schedule, we've got Cerutty. We got Kyle. Life advice. The email address Life Advice Advice, rrmail.com what's up, everyone? Not much.
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Ceruti
Nice Friday.
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Ryan Rosillo
Nice little Friday. Feels like it. It's early. It's early for us right now. Pizza Friday, huh? That be pretty good. Do you ever think about going into the studio, Kyle, and bringing pizza for everybody?
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Ceruti
No.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, that'd be weird. All right. Should we read? We've had a lot of people after the military guy was asking people to help pay for his flight. Mass media still. Wow. Well, a lot of people actually chimed in to be like, that guy 100% was scamming. Scamming dudes. Yeah. I've yet to see an email from anyone suggesting otherwise because, yeah, I think there's that 1% guilt of, like, what if this is true? But a lot of people have chimed in with different stories, so I don't know. Do we want to hear one of those? Let's do it. All right. 64240. 36 years old. NBA comp flatey divots with a slightly. With slightly worse court vision situation arose a couple weeks ago that made me think of your airport military guy story. I'm born and raised in Buffalo, but I lived in New Jersey for the better part of 20 years post Seaton Hall, Big East. I've had bill season tickets for the last 10, 12 years and drive home for around half the games each season after the wild card game versus the Broncos.
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Ceruti
This guy's dedicated jersey to Buffalo. That's no joke.
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Ryan Rosillo
You would do that, though.
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Ceruti
My brother lives in Buffalo, and I've never. He bought a house, like, two years ago. I've never seen it. I don't know. Something big's gonna have to happen for me to get over there.
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Kyle
I think Buffalo is one of those places where you. You don't just, like, go to bu. Like, it's a. You know, you don't just happen to be in Buffalo. You get. You need a purpose to be in Buffalo.
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Ceruti
Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I have to get out there at some point, but it's just. Just not at the top of my list.
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Kyle
What's the distance from Poughkeepsie still pretty far?
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Ceruti
Seven hours.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
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Ceruti
I mean, it's like New York still, like. I thought it was bad driving to Potsdam, New York, from, like, you know, I'm like an hour and a piece above the city, and there's still like six hours. You go up. I was like, that's insane. And then Buffalo is like Canada way longer. It's just so weird.
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Diana Rossini
It's.
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Ceruti
It's like, it's like it keeps going. Like you just take a left turn off the i87 and you just go forever. So I don't know, it doesn't sound, it's not at the top of my list.
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Ryan Rosillo
But I do think I should get there at some point. So your brother lives there, has a house, family. Yeah. And people are mad at me. I won't go to the Frolic Room. All right.
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Ceruti
Well, it's that trip times eight I guess on its worst day, but also.
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Ryan Rosillo
Not related to you, dude.
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Kyle
Probably easier to go.
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Ceruti
Hey, I'm not mad anymore. It is what it is.
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Ryan Rosillo
All right. So after the after the wild card game, I woke up bright and early Monday morning around 4:30am and hit the road back to New Jersey to get to the office. Yeah, this guy's into it. I stopped at the first rest stop on I90 outside of Buffalo to Phillips. A gas tank. About halfway through my fill I see a beat up black suv. I think an old Chevy Blazer with the front passenger window smashed out, replaced with a plastic bag. Immediately red flags are up so I'm paying close attention. Remember, it's around 5am Solo out there, freezing, dark, etc. A disheveled 55 year old woman, maybe 5ft tall emerges and makes an immediate brisk turn and walks in my direction. Oh boy. She just starts talking, no niceties or greetings, and tells me her car was broken into in Buffalo and they stole her wallet. She then asked me to fill up her tank for her. Remembering your story, I kind of froze and just spit out. I can't afford that. I'm sorry. She shook her head in frustration and walked off without another word. Did I do the right thing? I felt kind of guilty afterwards, but something just seemed off about the whole situation. If you have no money, are you really going to get on the highway at the crack of dawn with no guarantee of getting gas? Seemed fishy to me. Either way, let me know.
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Ceruti
I feel like an old beat up Chevy Blazer is like. It's like the black Air Force one of cars. It's like it could be just a guy who works in a restaurant or it could be a guy who's about to take all your stuff. So I don't know.
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Ryan Rosillo
I'll tell you what, those Chevy blazers, when they first are on the scene, totally you had one of those. Big deal. I mean it's some kids. Yeah, I mean like dude, that guy can do anything he's got a Chevy Blazer. I mean, this podcast, I don't know that we want to pivot to this Brisillo podcast. Helping people, not help people. Since 2024. I. I like your instincts on this one because whenever it happens to you, then you'll spend the next however many minutes. And for you, you had a long drive, so you probably spent more than a few minutes on the subject in your own. You know, you're having a little podcast in your head and you're thinking, okay, but this doesn't make any sense. And this doesn't make any sense. And you're right. Like, I'm on E. Let me just get on the highway, see what happens at 5am if I. If that's. If it's that bad for me, I'm probably sleeping in wherever I am. Right?
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Ceruti
Yeah. And consider the location.
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Ryan Rosillo
Right.
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Ceruti
Gas stations kind of invite fuckery. I mean, I would say maybe, you.
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Ryan Rosillo
Know, also a great point.
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Ceruti
Maybe public access points to airports too, when you would consider baggage claim or something. Back alleys. Yeah, just a lot of. There's just places where you're, you know, you should be. Your shit detector should be at least turned on with anybody who's approaching you. And I think gas stations are 1000% one of those places.
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Ryan Rosillo
So you're saying higher people flow areas, higher percentage of fuckery.
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Ceruti
Yeah, exactly.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Makes sense. Bus stations.
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Ceruti
Totally.
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Ryan Rosillo
What's the last time you've been on a bus, Kyle?
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Ceruti
Probably 20. I took one of the Dodgers game and I had like a bunch of little flashbacks. But like real, real bus guys.
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Ryan Rosillo
You're a bus guy.
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Ceruti
20, 19. Yeah, yeah.
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Kyle
Pre Mustang, right?
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. So proud of you.
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Ceruti
From bus to a Mustang.
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Ryan Rosillo
Come on, dude, the glow up is real. Who says America's headed in the wrong direction, right? Okay, slighted on social media. I like this one. All right, let's go. Early 40s. 59165. Comp is Chris Corciani without a handle or a jump shot. I have a Chris Corciani practice jersey that was actually his. Well, sort of weird how I ended up with it. So shout out to him. I. I still will wear. I might wear it to work out today. I love it. I look great in it. I'll get right to it. I've been dating my girlfriend, 40, so our guy is early 40s, girlfriend, 40 for a year and a half, pics included. He did send pics. They didn't load up. So sorry, dude, can't add any more perspective. I just have to trust you. The relationship has Largely been great. We spend time with each other's kids, spend a lot of time together, get along really well. I'm an okay looking guy, but my dating strengths are my job stability and being a nice guy. My girlfriend, on the other hand, is a 10. She's also smart with a great job. I'm not sure if her good looks will be a factor in your response. Well, they can't be buddy because we can't see him. But it could be irrelevant or. But it could be relevant. Yeah, it's definitely relevant. I'm not on social media at all beyond LinkedIn, but she's very, very active on Instagram. When she goes out with friends, she generally is taking tons of pictures and posting them. I don't even look at her social media, but I've gathered that based on comments she has made and things that he's shown me, she mentioned posting a picture of herself and a former male coworker, men's tennis she went to dinner with and I asked her if she'd ever posted a picture of me. She said she is not. I asked if she had ever mentioned even having a boyfriend generically, and she has not. I know she posts pics of meals, drinks from our date nights pretty much every time, but doesn't mention that she is with me by name or title. This really wasn't on my radar until she mentioned posting pictures after going to dinner with a former male coworker. But now it's really bothering me. Even though I know she or even though I know he is just a friend. It's hard not to take this personal since I'm the one thing person in her life she doesn't post about. And it's hard not to speculate why after being together for as long as we have. I should mention I did ask about it. The problem was I asked while we were arguing about another topic. Good timing, man.
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Kyle
And you know another thing? You never post pictures and think that'll go over well.
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Ryan Rosillo
Right? It's like in that argument, tug of war where you're like, I'm losing it, I'm losing it. What can I come up with? You've never. You've never said hello to my dad. Yeah. You know.
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Kyle
Oh man, there used to be a term for that. Maybe there is, but just bottom of the barrel shit that you just get out in an argument when you're just out of ideas.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, we had roommate. A roommate that did it all the time. Like it'd be going sideways and then he would bring up utilities to me or Something I'd be like, okay, yeah, right. I'm late on the electric.
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Kyle
Yeah, well, like, do whatever you want. I feel like.
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Ryan Rosillo
Sorry.
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Kyle
I feel like dudes, they'll be like. And you offer me the worst fantasy football traits. And it's like, what? What are we doing? Like, where is this?
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Ceruti
Never give me gas money. You always got somewhere to go.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, but here's the thing. I love that this guy knew. He's like. The problem was, you know, he knew. He knew exactly. He's. He's in his 40s. He already knows the game. So he knew. And it was an argument I was losing. Of course that's when you brought it up. That's exactly. All right, so we didn't get in any depth on it. And she was clearly annoyed I mentioned it. In that moment. I felt like I had to drop it due to the other issue. We were talking about the fact we were on a way to a holiday dinner. Dinner.
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Kyle
Your timing is incredible.
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Ceruti
And scene. All right, let's go be nice.
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Ryan Rosillo
I mean, this is just using that card. So, like. Well, you already know you used it at the wrong time. You know, you should have waited patiently. When can I best use this to win? The only explanation I got at the time was she likes to keep relation stuff personal, but nothing else. Am I being oversensitive by being bothered by this? I don't want to be in the pictures, but should she mention she has a boyfriend? At this point, I have no sense of norms for this type of thing since I stay away from social media. Should I bring it up again during a neutral time since it continues to bother me, or do I let this go? We're going to New York for Valentine's Day, and she'll be posting stuff left and right, but never mention she is with me. And I know I'll be silently pissed the whole time. Sounds like a great trip, buddy. All right.
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Ceruti
I totally get Facebook statuses for all, like, Instagram and everything. I mean, it was kind of annoying when everyone was like, oh, now it's complicated. Complicated now. But, I mean, this would just kind of solve his problem. That'd be good.
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Ryan Rosillo
It's complicated is one of the most genius things in the history of it's ridiculous. It's complicated. Like, if you had the it's be, it'd be it's complicated is worse than, like, I don't like the guy I'm with.
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Ceruti
I'd rather that it's keeping my options.
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Ryan Rosillo
Open, but, you know, this isn't going anywhere.
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Ceruti
DMs are open.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, I. I totally get your point. And I think there's gonna be a lot of people that are like 100 on your side on this one, especially as you gear up for Valentine's. And it's going to be some espresso martini. He's going to be in the picture, and the restaurant's going to be tagged.
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Ceruti
Just your collar will be right.
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Ryan Rosillo
Right.
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Ceruti
Cut off at the neck.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right. She starts airbrushing out like a finger that made its way into the dinner table. Like, we're really worried. I would say this as somebody that knows women that are in the content game. Nothing derails their content momentum more than I have a boyfriend or a husband.
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Ceruti
And here he is.
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Ryan Rosillo
Who knows to what level she's at right now? Chances are she probably aspires to a greater level. I see it all the time. I'm like, dude, this girl's married. I know her boyfriend. I'll be friends with a girl that's on tv, who the boyfriend may as well be a make believe friend. When you're seven, he doesn't go to the school. Right? Right. I think it has a lot to do with how dudes are too, because the illusion of attainability is a really good marketing strategy. And you may be sitting here being like, dude, what are you talking about? She's got 1200 followers. Like, it doesn't matter. She does real estate on the side. Like, she's not aspiring. Okay, maybe she isn't, but it sure seems like she likes posting stuff. And I think that's the other thing. And this is both male and female. Like, I see it all the time. It's like, what are you doing now, man? You're like posting all this stuff or you're doing these videos where you're walking and like, you don't, you don't really work in this. But then they look at somebody else with a million followers who found a way to build a brand and make money off the whole thing and because it's actually so unimpressive. Okay, not to say that there aren't people that are great at doing it, but you understand the point, like, there's so many people that are doing it, where you're like, that's all that person does. You know, girl's a little overweight but wears a crop top and dudes are losing their minds, you know, I wish there was a male equivalent of that. Imagine like, I don't really like him, but God damn. Or his shoulder's terrific, you know, just. So anyway, I don't know where that was going.
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Kyle
But the point is same.
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Ryan Rosillo
He's like, totally understand. I think the point is, is that there's a reason she's doing this that is more likely, I shouldn't say a lie. But like, the motivation behind it isn't because she doesn't like you. It isn't because she doesn't like, isn't proud of you. She just kind of needs to keep it as not part of her deal to continue her pursuit of whatever it is on Instagram.
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Ceruti
Yeah, I'd say it's probably good that you're not an Instagram guy because you'll have to Google her Instagram or whatever and probably don't even have the app. And it's like you're doing the web version of Instagram. So I mean, it'll be less often than when you're just scrolling and you're like, oh, there's another one that I'm not in. I'd say to your point, I'm 10 years younger than this guy, but there's a lot of people my age I went to school with. Like you said, the 1200 followers, 800 followers. I'm not really sure what their end game is, but it's like, you know.
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Ryan Rosillo
I know what they think, here's how.
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Ceruti
I raise my kids. Or like, here's, you know, here's a DIY project I'm doing. I'm like, I don't know who this is for. But like, I could see it's definitely.
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Kyle
They definitely have, there's some goal.
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Ceruti
You have the same amount of followers you did in high school. You picked up a hundred in college. And I just don't know what, I don't know what they gave, but there's like, you know, I could think of probably 10 or 12 people that I went to high school with. And it's just like, there's a channel here, isn't it funny? But it's also their family holidays, you know what I mean? It's like they don't know what they want to do with it, but they're just like, here's some content and maybe we can, you know, have this take off and take the edge off the bills one day. I don't know what it is, but I could see if that's, if she's like soft, committed to whatever this is. Maybe it's just like I'm a hot 40 year old who goes out to dinner. I don't, I don't know. But I could see why if she, if there is something like Maybe this. Just keep the Instagram line in the water, and maybe we'll get a tug one day. I don't know. It could be that, but, I mean, some people just aren't.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, she's a 10. She's probably getting a few tugs.
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Kyle
Yeah, well, I would want to know what her follower count is. Like, is it real or is it not real? Because to your point, Kyle, it is always. Isn't always kind of funny, like, when you see, like, the dominoes fall of someone, you know, like, oh, they're going the influencer route. Like, get 800 followers. And, like, you're. You're like, you're doing that now. It's a little bit. I don't know. Like, it's. It's a little awkward at the beginning and then. But it's actually kind of good because I want to see where this goes. Like, is this going to take off? Probably not in this, but can you blame the person?
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Ryan Rosillo
Because it's not like, no, you can't. Nobody goes to a movie. Like, there's a. There's a part of this in podcasting, too, and I could just spend way too much time on this. But, like, no one goes to a movie and watches DiCaprio and says, like, I could have done that. You know, I mean, sure, there's a few people, if we want to play that game, but, yeah, they're like, what the.
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Ceruti
The difference between me and him.
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Ryan Rosillo
Exactly. Right. Very good. Great example. I might even have a nicer smile, you know? Not me. I'm just talking about the person in general that. That looks at the stuff, being like, I could just do this, like, your kid. Or your kid's crying and you bought him a hat at the mall post. You do that.
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Ceruti
Right?
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Ryan Rosillo
So. And look, she could be doing it for the bad reason. Yeah, right. But I do think it's worth trying to understand that, because I think it's a very common thing that as soon as it's like, oh, she's got a boyfriend, or, oh, she's married, like, it's completely different. And then all of a sudden, it's just, oh, well, all right, you know? Well, like, the guy liking the photos was in the mix before this news, which he wasn't, but there's something that happens to that guy where he's like, oh, well, I guess I'm not gonna date her. Seeing somebody fucking lose her.
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Kyle
I mean, it sounds stupid, but, like, it's like, anything. Like, are there other. Are there other red flags in the relationship if everything's cool and it's good. And you guys get along. Everything you said, like, if this makes her feel good, it's probably really harmless, you know, like, and, you know, she wants to post some pictures and have people like her and start following. Like, and that makes her feel better about her life. Then let's, you know, I think. I think you kind of got to ignore it.
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Ryan Rosillo
It's good.
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Kyle
Like I said, as Kyle said, it's good you're not on social media. It's kind of like, Ryan, we used to talk about, like, there are shows there, like, podcasts that, like, do shows based on just, like, what Twitter says, like, what the reaction is. And those are, like, the worst things because it's not really real. Like, you shouldn't react or be a boyfriend based on, you know, shit you see on your girlfriend's Instagram account, because that's just going to make you miserable and it's going to inevitably lead to you breaking up, because nobody can really probably handle it. That. So I would just kind of keep on keeping on and just, you know, maybe just keep your head in the sand and hope for the best. If you trust her, then that's. That's the way to go.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right. If you trust her. I think s nailed. Yeah. Because the DMS are probably.
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Ceruti
That's the thing. It's not like a magazine of her life. And it's like, look at this hot girl. It's like, you can also just hit this button and try talking to her, and you don't know how she behaves with that. So that's. That's the. That's the pit in your stomach, I think.
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Ryan Rosillo
Are you saying look through her phone? No, I'm not.
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Ceruti
I'm just saying, like, you know, if she's, like, putting her. This version of herself out there, like, you're just not in that version of her life. And it's just like, why that? The big question is, why is that? And I guess we didn't solve that. So.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay. All right, next one. My dad is my roommate. Help. Longtime listener. First time caller. No gym stats today. Pickup game. Ish Smith's best eight game stretch in Detroit to end the 201617 season. Ish Smith. A lot of jerseys. I'm 33 and I live with my dad. My dad had some health issues. I had an extra bedroom, so I moved into my house. At the time, I was single, caught up in my own life. It wasn't a huge inconvenience. That was four years ago. My son is now 13 years old and busier Than ever. My son's mom and I are not together, but have a great relationship. She lives with her parents about 30 minutes away from where my son splits his living time. Over the last year, we have thrown the idea around of moving in together to help each other and would make things so much easier. Getting our son to and from school, basketball, friends, houses, et cetera. That's a big move. During the time living with my dad, he's turned my house into his own house. Sleeping on the couch, shout out to the guy with a soccer workout roommate, Eating the food I buy for my son. He's one of the messiest people on the planet. I moved my dad into the master bedroom. The room is absolutely disgusting. The living room is turned into his room. Every day living with him is the same routine of my coming home from whatever I have going on that day at any hour of the day, and finding my dad sitting on the couch watching tv. I love my dad. I was happy to help him at the time. I'm 33 and want to live my own life with my family. My question to you, how do I go about addressing this conversation to my dad about moving out? I don't know that he can afford to be out on his own, but at the same time, I don't think that should be my problem that he can't. I don't know what to do. Any suggestions are welcome. Love the pod. Yeah, that's a tough one.
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Ceruti
He has so much goodwill banked with you. Like, it's like, what, can you put a number on it?
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Ryan Rosillo
That's tough.
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Ceruti
It's tough.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Well, I mean, what you've done for your dad here is incredible. Yeah. And I think this is one of those things, like when you're getting yelled at when you're a little kid and your parents are like, family's all that matters. Family's the only thing that's going to be there for the end. You're like, shut up. I just want to go play basketball. Leave me alone. And they're right. You know, they're right. You hope to have a family. Right. You hope to have a family that throughout the ups and downs, can always kind of be there for you. You know, you think about so many young people that move home or somebody that goes through something personally or divorce. You know, there's just a list of things where it's an amazing thing to know that if you have to. And not everybody has this right. But if you do have it, that you have the option of, well, I can just go home and kind of reset and do everything, but you eventually probably want to leave, as most of us would, if you ever have to go back home during some kind of situation like that. I had to go back home for like three or four months. And it was great because I was like, I'm never doing this again. But it was there, it was, it was an option. And look, you know, there's different friends I could have stayed with or anything, but at that point it was just like, this would be the easiest thing and the cheapest in this case, man, it's a struggle for you, and it should be for anybody that cares about their parent and in this case, your dad. But what I'm going to tell you is that it doesn't mean that this is just what the rest of your life is supposed to be like. That would be completely unfair, and you would hope that your father would understand that. Now, I don't. You said you don't know what he can do financially. You know, is it worth it to you to sit down with him and say, look, I want to get my kid back in my life here with maybe the mom, you know, this is about raising my kid. You know, I'm here to do whatever I can to help you, but we need to come up with a plan so you're not just coming home one day, really, because you're probably going to have a breaking point and it would be way uglier. So I would try to get in front of that and say, I've done everything I could. And if he's a good dad, he should, he's a good person, he should appreciate this and be like, you know what? You're right. Right. Because. And then you have that be like, did you think you were going to live here forever? Okay. Now, there can be some dynamics too, where there ends up being this massive parent guilt trip thing where it's like, you know, I've done all this for you and you have to do this for me. And this is, this is what matters.
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Ceruti
Like, never gets right stuff. You never get to the point where you pull that card out.
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Ryan Rosillo
But, you know, sometimes with the, the parents, in this case, let's say father son dynamic, it's up to you to try to break out of that. And it doesn't mean to break permanently, but it's up to you to kind of break out of that dynamic with just a straight up man to man conversation where it's like, yeah, we're father and son, but let's talk about what this is right now, okay? Here's what's on my table. Here's what the deal has been. We knew there was an end date. What can we do to put you in the best position so that when you transition out of here to wherever you're moving next, like, this isn't abrupt, it's not after a blow up, you know, don't even bring up all the messy stuff. You know, just say, hey, straight up, I'm getting my son back in the mix. The mom may be back in the mix. I need to figure out a way to get you on your feet, right. So that it's not accusatory, it's not negative, it's not getting on his ass about all the things that are already making you mad, which you'd be more than justified of bringing up. So I think you need to figure out that conversation where it doesn't feel like it's happening next week. So he's all freaked out. And if he says to you, like, hey, I'm sorry, I don't have any other choice, and like, this is kind of what you have to do, that's when you're probably going to have to push a little bit harder than you want to. And it's not going to be fun and it's probably going to make you feel bad, you're going to feel guilt. But what you're signed up for right now is not really. It's not fair to you, man. It's not fair to whatever you're trying to do to strengthen your immediate family.
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Ceruti
Yeah, I think throwing out ideas or like, hey, these places, highly rated, free heat, not water. You know, boom. Like, I think you, you sprinkle a.
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Ryan Rosillo
Lot of some reviews, you sprinkle a.
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Ceruti
Lot of helpfulness over a little bit of, hey, we got to talk.
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Ryan Rosillo
I think Foxwood, sweets, dad 3.7.
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Ceruti
Right.
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Ryan Rosillo
They have a, they have a park.
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Ceruti
Covered, covered parking right in unit, washer, dryer. I just, I think, I think being a little helpful and just having him say, you'll be able to tell when you're being helpful at having, how he responds, responds to you being like, hey, this is probably in your budget. Like, this is rent lock. This is whatever. And the other thing is, I don't know how old your dad is. If you're saying you have kids and you're an adult. I mean, he might be the point where he's not working or, you know, approaching Social Security, whatever. Like, it might be helpful to know what his deal is. But I think being able to come up with like something affordable and something that's, you know, highly in the realm of possibility. How he responds to that would tell you a lot. I think if you're. If this actually is a decent plan that has feasibility and he's just like, he's not receptive to it at all, then I think you have an idea whether you have to put. Because you came in the most respectful, helpful way, and if that is kind of pushed aside, then you're like, all right, we've got to turn up the heat a little bit.
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Kyle
Did he mention any other relatives?
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Ryan Rosillo
No.
- [108:20]
Kyle
Like, does he. Does he have a brother? Like, I. I would. I mean, again, I'd assume you're up.
- [108:25]
Ceruti
Dude, go stay with him for a summer.
- [108:28]
Kyle
He's yours for the next five years. I don't know. It's just. If that's a possibility. I mean, I'm sure you've. You've thought about that, but he did bring it up in the email, so I think I forgot.
- [108:36]
Ryan Rosillo
What's your shed situation?
- [108:38]
Ceruti
Got a band cave and winterize this bad boy.
- [108:40]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [108:41]
Kyle
The other thing I just feel like.
- [108:42]
Ceruti
I need to bring up.
- [108:43]
Ryan Rosillo
Run an extension cord out here. Dad, you watch off tv. One space heater.
- [108:47]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [108:48]
Ceruti
Some nice clotheslines.
- [108:50]
Kyle
The one thing I feel like. Can I. I do feel like I need to bring this up. Maybe, Maybe you guys would think I'm wrong, but are you. Are you also trying to move in with the ex to get away from your dad? Like, like, is that. Are those. Is that. Hopefully that. Those are two very separate things. Like, you shouldn't be doing that. Just like, because you think it's going to be.
- [109:08]
Ryan Rosillo
There's nothing out of here.
- [109:09]
Kyle
You know, Like, I. I, like, I hope it works out for you. I hope, like, you know, maybe you guys, maybe. Who knows, maybe you live together, everything's kumbaya. Kind of seems like a little bit of a. Of a disaster waiting to happen, but I just hope she's looking at.
- [109:21]
Ceruti
Stay with my parents or go, yeah, this guy. Maybe she's like, more interested than he is. I don't know.
- [109:27]
Kyle
I just hope he wouldn't be like, hey, I gotta get out of my dad situation, so let me move in with my ex. And I know the kid thing is.
- [109:33]
Ryan Rosillo
He didn't see the nad. Look, honestly, that, that move, he added very little depth on what would seem to be major. Like, he doesn't add if they're getting back together, or maybe they're just said.
- [109:43]
Ceruti
It was out of convenience. Right. He was like, just, you know, make the traveling a little easier.
- [109:48]
Ryan Rosillo
All right.
- [109:48]
Ceruti
With 30 minutes, it's not like driving to Buffalo.
- [109:51]
Ryan Rosillo
That's a whole nother email. That's its own segment. We wouldn't even get to another email without one. Right. It's just like, yeah, we get sick of paying for gas. So you're living with your ex, so.
- [110:00]
Ceruti
You live in a minefield.
- [110:01]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Crazy. It's really about where your dad's head is at with it all, because he might be like, this has been awesome. I don't. I don't want to leave this deal. But then maybe it can help you deal with the guilt part of it. Realizing that he's been totally fine, taking advantage of the situation. And, like, just Rudy's point, like, we don't know finances of it. It sounds like he's on the other side of the health thing or whatever. But it's been four years, man. It's been four years. And I think the best way to handle it is to look at it as, hey, what's next? Like, like, what's the plan? Ask him, did you think you were going to live here forever? And if he says yes, good luck, because I don't know what to say to that one. All right, thank you. To Ceruti, to Kyle, to War. Gone normal week next week and fired up to get ready for the super bowl and everything else that's going on and the trade deadline. So a lot going on here on the show. Check us out on YouTube. Brian Rosilla must be 21 and older. Present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + and present in D.C. gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com, call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.orgforward/chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 8003-275050-42247 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY in New York.