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Florida’s National Championship Comeback and a Masters Preview With Scott Van Pelt
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Ryan Marcillo
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Scott Van Pelt
I'm good. I'm psyched to talk to you. It's been too long. This week, as you know, is the work week that I look forward to the most. It was lousy Monday. Rain kind of rained out and sun's out. Supposed to be awesome this week and, you know, fun time of year. So I'm in a good space. You're catching me in a really good headspace right now.
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Ryan Marcillo
I want to talk a lot of Masters. I unfortunately am not going to make it this year. There was a thing that was in play a little Wednesday, Thursday, maybe half a Friday, you know, juggling life, but didn't work. But I'm going again at some point. I'm going again and, and I'm as we've talked about in the past, like, you're so spoiled. You get to do all this cool stuff. And usually after like a couple days, I'm like, I'm good. And when I went a bunch of years ago with all my friends, well, two guys weren't even my friends really, but went with this crew and I was, I didn't want to leave. I didn't want to leave. And I've never, I'M never like that with anything anymore.
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Scott Van Pelt
Which is, I think you grade with a sharp pencil, right? And I think that's because we've seen it. Like, if it's really good, we'll be, we'll tell you it's really good. But then you'll, people be like, ah, this is, this is something. And you see it, you're like, it was good, but it, but then this place. And I try to explain it, like, it will exceed your expectations in a way. Really. Nothing else does in the sports space that I've seen. So, you know, coming back, even, you know, coming back here, like, dude, it's been a long time. Christmas, 30 years, for God's sake. Like, not quite, but almost. And then you start doing the math. You're like, good God, you wake up one day and you know you're the old cat, but whatever, here I am. And it's, it's, it even however many years in, you don't come and go and you're like, holy smokes, this place is something.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, I don't want to do too much of this and get in front of, I want to talk tournament and then we'll get back, we'll do. Because I'm, I, I screwed up. Just, we're just, we both have this huge grin on our face because I'm so happy that you're there and I'm like, I, I'm not even that guy. And I love it so much. But anyway, we'll, we'll do more on that. All right. So last night, so going in, I, I've, I know this tournament isn't what everybody wants out of the tournament. You want all these crazy moments. You want at least that Cinderella. I think people want the Cinderella until it like gets to the Elite Eight or Final Four. But I liked the talent and how special these top teams were. I know historically, we've talked about it already, these, these 1 seeds were off the charts. If you go 30 years of the tournament and it plays out that way, so it's very chalky. But I, I just really enjoyed this tournament. And you have last night's game where, you know, Florida was this darling through the SEC tournament run. Kind of everybody's pick. If they weren't picking Duke Houston, you're like, all right, who are all these dudes again? You know, and they, they've been on this, this multi year run with Sampson where they're certainly deserving of all the praise. And Houston gets up 12 and you're like, how do you, how do you come back down 12 in the second half against Houston and there's just no way you're thinking it's possible. And Floor pulls it off.
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Scott Van Pelt
Yeah, the, the somebody I saw made the point that you get what they're saying, that being down a dozen to Houston's like being down 50 to another team. Right. Like you see there were the Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, those SEC teams that are like up 15, down 15. We don't care. We're just going to keep playing like we play and we're going to score in the 90s and double digit leads, kind of like the NBA. Like they can evaporate quickly against Houston. That's just not how it goes. And so I give Florida a ton of credit for just staying in the fight. Now a lot of that probably Ryan, comes from the fact that they just, they don't have to go back too far on the mental Rolodex to go. We're down nine with 2:51 to go against A and M. Right. We, Auburn had us down a pretty decent number. Just keep plugging away. And you had to think at some point Clayton's going to score buckets. I believe he didn't make his first basket till there were eight minutes left in the game and it was an and one. And then he hits a three and like they're chipping away and they're chipping away. And then the thing that really bums me out about it, I love Kelvin Sampson. I love the whole idea of the program and what it's about. Toughness, the DNA of that. I hate for them that the last three times they had a basketball they didn't take a shot. Like that's really going to be hard to live with. You don't get the ball on the rim for a team. It's as offensive rebounding centric as anyone. They, they just turned it over three straight times. And for as much Ryan, as we talk about the toughness, the defense and the rebounding of Houston, Florida won that basketball game because they were tough, they guarded and they rebound, they outright, they out rebounded Houston, which I don't know how they did it because the length of Houston at the rim is insane. So in retrospect, like Florida was that team. They really were all year. They, they, that's who they were. They've been as good as anyone and them winning feels like appropriate. But if you tell me they're down a dozen and, and they're just, they're not going to get any points from number one if Clayton's not going to Make a basket. Like, well, it's probably going to lose. And somehow, you know, they're in the Riverwalk. My wife and kids were there, by the way, which is fun story. They rolled the dice and went and like, got a picture of my little guy at 12:50 asleep on the Riverwalk. She's like, little guy left it all in the field. I'm like, what a memory, man. For life. They were. They were in the building. But I. I didn't see that path being how they got there. I thought they would be, you know, make a shit ton of threes and just be who they were and that that's how they'd win. That. That was not the script I saw being how Florida got to have a parade.
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Ryan Marcillo
You're right, though. They're down to UConn. They're down to Tech. The Tech game still is probably the. One of the best moments you're going to see from a player. And Clayton just kind of taking that thing over and then down, as you mentioned, to Auburn. So we can sit here and say, hey, you're down 12, but it's Houston, you know, and when I'm trying to figure out, like, what is it that's working? Like, there were turnovers. That was partly Houston's aggressiveness. There's also just some horrible passes from Florida. And when they go to the head coach at one of the interviews, they're like, you know, how you feeling it might have been at halftime. And Todd's like, hey, we're turning it over, but, you know, we're not shooting it great. Meanwhile, Houston couldn't shoot it for long stretches, and Crier was. It felt like the only guy that was keeping him in. Like every moment you would go, houston really needs a bucket here. And then Crier would just get free. So I think the world of his tournament and how he just kind of answered it every time they needed it from him. But the turnovers weren't necessarily leading to points off of turnovers for Houston. So that's how Florida's still in this thing. And you're right, like Clayton's first point was at 4, 14, 57 to go in the second half.
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Scott Van Pelt
Yeah, and I. I'll get John notes down. That's his first bucket was an and one that tied. It was like eight minutes to go. His first three was at three minutes to go on the game. And this guy was had 30 plus in his last two games. I mean, that's just not the game script for Florida to win this. There's no chance. And they Tough rebounds. And I. I just, again, I give him credit for just having that sort of chameleon quality. Just. I didn't think they were winning a game in the 60s against Houston. No, I just. No way. I thought that would happen.
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Ryan Marcillo
The early contests at the rim, nobody feels comfortable. Like, Condens wouldn't shoot Ryan, right? He had a baseline, great post move, turn. He got clear late in the game. It was a bucket they really needed. And even though he was clear and shook the defense, he was like, I. They were thinking about it like you always think about, like, again, this is stupid, but anybody that's ever played basketball, like, when you get your just sent back, there's certain guys, like, just don't want to go down there anymore. Like, I'd rather not have the embarrassment than maybe the opportunity. And I think there's a lot of players in college, in the pros now that just drive, and maybe they're obsessed with kicking it out to threes and making it look cool to the corner. It's like, you probably would have been fouled or you could have had a layup there. And it's like, I don't want to do this. Houston, the Richard block, when he went up for it early to dunk it, like, Houston sets this tone. And then when I'm looking at, like, what's happening with Clayton, I'm going, you know this guy, okay? He's not like the off the paper kind of like, again, that'd be more on testing. But when you think about him athletically compared to other guys, you're like, all right. I don't know that he's. He's like that, but, man, damn. He just keeps getting by everybody all the time. So maybe there's more to the whole thing. And then when you're looking, if you're a ball handler against Houston and you're waiting for that seam and you're looking for these attacking angles, next thing you know, you're still 30 plus feet away from the hoop, and you're passing it to the other gardeners seven seconds up in the shot clock, and you haven't. You thought you were running something, but you're just. You're still out there for 20 seconds and nothing's happened.
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Scott Van Pelt
Yeah, I just. The condon I his. And I get it because Robert's got him a couple of times, and then there's like, they. They've got seven dudes with. With length that are going to challenge every shot. And I understand that after a couple come back, you're like, enough of this. But truly, in a game where a bucket, I understand threes, we value them more than twos. We. I can do the math. But a bucket and a one point game where Houston's having a hard time scoring. Let's take that. And you just saw him. No thanks. No bid on this shot. That seemed like point blank. But you know what? On the other end, Ryan Houston couldn't run anything for the last five minutes. They just looked so bogged down. And again, Florida's got a shit ton of length too, and they got four or five guys that they just, you know, run them in. So, I mean, I loved it. There was somebody, some point made about like the number of five stars on the floor, which was zero. And you know, Florida's found guys from all over the place, some from the portal, some internationally, this and that, like famously, you know, we know that the Clayton, he was heavy at Iona and blah, blah, blah. Well, he's turned into something different. But, but Houston Roberts is a sixth year guy. And the line from that Duke game about what Sampson said is we trusted our grown up against their teenager and that wasn't being disrespectful. That's what it was. This is an adult, he's a 24 year old man and Cooper Flag's the number one pick and he's awesome. But in a gotta have it moment, we're like, we're going to trust this man. And it felt like it was all men out there last night and it wasn't pretty, necessarily. And again, I think you feel cheated as a fan. You just want to see the ball in the air, right? And I feel so bad for Sharpe because he was great for them all year. He hit the biggest shot of that Duke game. I thought down six, he had to hit a three. And he had the patience to find the window to shoot it, but man, he turned it over twice in the last 30 seconds and it's like, I don't know, man. That's. I imagine that'll stick with a young man until he's an old man.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, that. I don't care who you are. Like, it's. It's weird when you feel incredibly bad for somebody you don't know and likely will never meet. And I'm sitting in the hotel room watching a game and I'm just wondering, like, are they. Once crier got stuck on the other side, you're like, okay, this is. This is bad.
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Scott Van Pelt
Gotta go.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, like, okay, now this, this could get a little ugly. And I thought there was some possessions there. Where you want to be fear. Because, like, there's even times against Houston where I thought how got deep. And there's been versions of him where I've seen him more aggressive with his shot. And I think it's back to kind of some of the Houston stuff we were talking about. And it could feel a little like the screen grab world of evaluating quarterbacks where we show the all 22 and.
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Scott Van Pelt
You'Re like, wide open. I'm sorry to jump you. It's just we both hated so much that I'm like, I couldn't wait to say it. I'm sorry.
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Ryan Marcillo
No, I'm so happy you said it. Because it's also like the hole. You go be like, dude, you can't believe he didn't hit the hole between the tight end and the tackle there. And you're just like, yeah, okay. Because the guys aren't moving because it's a screen grab. And so there's times when I'm watching, going, like, I think he could have gotten a little bit deeper there. And I'm sure when you actually have the ball and you're on the court and you're like, no, that. That. That wasn't there. But whether it was getting the ball out of crier's hands and some of those late possessions, knowing how important he was to saving them. But I. I was just thinking about Sharp last night. I was thinking about him because I think the Duke loss, like, Bill brought this up on Sunday of, like, how long the Duke loss is going to haunt Cooper flag. And I think we all ultimately were talking about two different things. Like, it's not going to be a negative on his NBA career, but that guy's going to be in Maine visiting family one summer, pumping his own gas, and he might be 50 or 60, and somebody's going to come up to him and act like they're the first person that's asked him about this. The same way somebody tells me, oh, an E. That's new. Be like, all right.
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Scott Van Pelt
He's like, in Bar Harbor. Somebody comes up to him.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, somebody is somebody. I can't do whatever the main accent is. I've never been able to do it. Somebody's going to bring this game up to him. I would say, every week for the rest of his life. Every day might be extreme, but this is going to happen every day of his life. But I think for Cooper, it's a team thing. And I felt fine about how Cooper played. I mean, he was.
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Scott Van Pelt
He was.
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Ryan Marcillo
He was great in the game.
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Scott Van Pelt
He was best Player on the floor, wasn't he?
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Ryan Marcillo
Right, right, right. So I'd rather be. I'd rather be Cooper than sh. And this isn't about being the number one pick and then where Sharp's career going and all that kind of stuff. I still feel like the Duke collapse is more unfathomable than somebody making a mistake at the end of the National Championship game. But that's going to be a really tough. Like, that's going to be this clip for Sharpe that now his life is different.
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Scott Van Pelt
Yeah, man, I've talked about that through the years here about, like, there's a guy, Scott Hoke, that missed a putt and Scott Hoag had a tremendous career, won a ton, made a lot of money, but he missed like a two foot putt to beat Nick Faldo. And his. The rest of his life is different if he makes it because he's a master champion for the rest of his life and he missed it. And so he's not. And one year I was standing here and he was on the other side of the ropes with all these other folks. And it's like, if you make that putt, you're over here wearing a green jacket for the rest of your life. And I'm not trying to be dramatic, but like, if Sharpe takes that shot. All right, so Chris Jenkins, he's a forever guy because he gets that incredible. Archie Diacono, flips it back, ball in the air, Jay Wright, bang, title confetti, the whole bit. Like, if Sharpe makes that shot, you become a forever guy and instead he gets caught in the air and I'm with you. I don't. Obviously I haven't met him, don't know him, but I just. You see the guy just crouch down and I can't fathom what you're trying to process in that moment. And so, like, I don't know what Flag did wrong. He just took a shot. They ran an ISO and Roberts challenged and made him shoot it shorter than he wanted to. I don't feel like he did anything drastically wrong in the end. I mean, Proctor missed the free throw, they couldn't get the ball in bounds. There was a call, which I get that people don't love it. My point on that, and I'm curious where you, where you land with this. If, if you stop the world from spinning at that moment and you let Duke analytically look at this moment and say, all right, that was probably a shitty call. Yeah. But you can send a 62% free throw shooter to the line for 1 and 1 or Cryer has the ball in his hands and Houston can run, clock, and shoot a shot that beats you and you'll never touch it again. Which would you prefer? And if I'm Duke, I'm saying let the guy go to the line. You think he's making two? I don't. And he did. Okay. Even with that, we got 19 seconds and we got the ball. Give it to the number one pick. I'll take my chances with that. You know, does that make sense? Like, the. The way people turn it into. That decided the game. I'm like, no, it didn't. Roberts making two free throws, playing great defense, challenging and. And Crier making two free throws. And then them. I saw you tweeted, decided to throw a football pass for whatever that was that decided the game. I don't want to hear that. It was the call. It was bad call. But that's not why they lost. They still had an opportunity to win it. That's just how I saw that last chunk of time.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, Robert's making those free throws. You know, I'm always a big proponent of, like, if you're down six or eight, just start Fallon at two minutes, because I think kids are going to miss free throws. And time and time again, Houston's guys made big free throws. And like, Roberts is almost this forgotten thing. Because, I mean, in that moment, to go, like, all right, this is us going for a national championship. And knock these down.
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Scott Van Pelt
When you're. When he made that first one, you saw him, like, he was like. I was like, okay. Like, he. It's the old shack line. I make him. I make them when they matter or like it, you just. After he made the first, I'm like, damn, he's going to make them both. And he did. And then. But then you still have to stop Duke. And it's. They kind of reverted to a couple of plays early in the year. When they lost. They didn't lose much, but when they lost, it was sort of ended up in Flag's hands. And you're asking them to make something happen in a moment, and then it becomes, well, they didn't have any close games, and they mostly didn't. Or you're on the floor with a team full of adults that just don't blink much either, and you missed a shot, you know, and then it becomes. That's what your legacy is forever. Duke was awesome. Flag's awesome. They lost. Just part of that happens, man.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, they lost. Cause they couldn't inbound the ball. They lost because Proctor Dribbled it off of his leg and then also missed the front end of a one on one. And the biggest issue, the reason why they lost is that, what, 10:30 to go, they made one field goal, which is the flag three. But look, these, these four teams were really good and it wasn't always beautiful, but I appreciated the final Four at least for that. Because you felt like, hey, and it, and it honestly plays out this way is that all of these teams had chances because of what they had done all year. The confidence that they had had. Sure. Duke not being challenged all season, which Billis brought up with me, I don't know if that's what came back to haunt them. They didn't get anything from their guards. Their guards killed them in that game. But when I look at Florida and everybody kind of, they became kind of a darling during the SEC tournament. Well, there's a reason, I mean, because when you watch tournament, you're like, I'm supposed to pick a team against this group because it seemed like they had checked every single box. And you're right. To get a national championship with Clayton being a non factor for that long after having so many huge moments for the last few weeks, you never think you're winning a title with that way. But you know, to your original point too, like, this is a, this is a Florida team without a top 100 recruit.
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Scott Van Pelt
So can I ask you a question about that? Like the guys on the floor last night, because you obviously, you know, consume and know so much about the league. What guy on the floor last night does the league look at and go, him is like a, like a stock you could buy in the NBA. I get that we don't see stars. I think Hauk is pretty compelling given the way the league plays and what he can do.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, definitely. Because I think if you've only watched him like last night, you're going, you guys are nuts. Because there's probably not that much that he did that resident. I've seen him in SEC games, you know, stretching the floor at that size. But he's got more shit to him too. Like he can put it on the deck and he can drive. It didn't seem like he was super interested in doing that. I think the Clayton Jr thing is really interesting because I looked at the ESPN mock after the first game that I'd seen from a few weeks ago where it was like a real full game. I was like, this guy's probably going to be a pro, right? And then I didn't even see him in the Second round on the mock. And I was like, this can't be. So then I started calling around and teams were like, hey, look, he's borderline, but he's. He's maybe late first, early second. That was before this run. Now, when I'd asked around again about him, I'd say, okay, where's Clayton Jr? And it's like, okay, he's probably definitely in the 20s now, whatever. And I was like, all right, so is he. Are the knocks against him, all the knocks that we can already figure out? And they were like, absolutely. He's older, he's not huge. He's not natural point guard, worried about his defense, athleticism, you know, not bad, but it's you. If you can get away with like, hey, can I have a freak in the back court? I'm going to prefer the freak, right at the NBA level.
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Scott Van Pelt
Of course.
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Ryan Marcillo
I, I thought the shot that he made in the right corner against Auburn, where he reset his entire launch thing, where he had to get his arms away from the contest, like that kind of shot, I, I went, holy shit.
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Scott Van Pelt
Like off the wrong foot. That one, the one where it looked like that. Not that one.
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Ryan Marcillo
There was a contest. He was in the right corner and he basically had to find a way to clear the contest. So he just kind of moved his body to the right.
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Scott Van Pelt
We're talking about the same one? Yeah, we're talking about the same one.
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Ryan Marcillo
Now, he was clearly frustrated last night because he took a corner three in the left on a cruiser. What the hell are you doing, dude? Like, what? What? That was one of the worst shots of the entire game. And he was deep. He was, he was clearly frustrated. Then it seemed like he didn't want to shoot at all. So we know the playbook. And if you were working for an NBA team and you were sitting there banging the table saying, hey, this guy has it, then there'd be somebody else being like, you know how many times we've been burnt as an NBA team talking about a college guy who's older saying, hey, this guy has it. But I do think that his, his shot making is like the full palette of shooting as opposed to just, hey, he has a good 3 point shooting percentage. So I do think he has a chance. Maybe it may be now that it's getting like. It's like when I liked Evan Turner, and then it was like Evan Turner was going to be a top five pick. I was like, jesus, I liked him.
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Scott Van Pelt
But this is difference between liking him and top five. I hear you. I just, I think I don't know. Anytime there's a smallish guard that I kind of have to squint to see what, what other people see or I don't see it at all. Like, I, I feel like. Well, I didn't know Brunson was going to beat us either. And I don't, I don't think anybody did. But then to, to just compare him to a guy that becomes a true All Star and a, and a face of a franchise in New York City, that's a big stretch too. I just, I just like watching the game. I thought, I love college basketball and I love this Final Four because these teams felt worthy. And then the games kind of lived up to it. But I don't. It doesn't trouble me if these guys don't translate to the next level because sometimes those can be different things. Often they're different things. But I, I don't know, I just was curious what you thought, like the, the how kid's a fun story. Just because I happened and he was on my radar several years ago just because he was this guy that Northwestern was looking at. And then he visited mar. Visited Maryland and they, they thought maybe they were going to get him, but then he had this affinity for Florida and they called and that. That was the end of that. But I didn't look two years ago. I don't think golden knew he was going to become a guy that had the ability to really floor it, get to the rim and score, obviously shoot threes, but then play defense and challenge. I mean, he had some big time block that turned into an and one when the game really started to swing. I don't know, I just. He looks like, I think he's a guy like if he were, like I said, if we were stocks, you'd say you'd want as much of that as you could get from the guys out there.
- [24:20]
Ryan Marcillo
Yesterday you said once with me, it was when Aaron Brooks was lighting it up for the Rockets out of Oregon. And it's one of the best lines you'd ever said, I think in the six years of doing the show, because I'd never forgotten it because it was just so perfectly said. And you were like, the road to the NBA is littered with Aaron Brooks. Where you go, oh yeah, this guy was a smaller guard and he scored. And granted Brooks is smaller than Clayton Jr. But it's why teams, it's why Clayton Jr. Was outside of the first round. It's why he's now projected as a first round even though the momentum. I think teams Are like people are losing their minds a little bit on this guy. But I know I enjoyed the hell out of him. And I think that shot against Texas, like, it would be hard to ignore that because I don't think there's five players in college basketball that would even. Well, look, I shouldn't say there's not five players in college basketball that wouldn't take that shot because we both know that's not true. There's plenty of dudes who will take the shot. But to have the, the composure to go, you know what? I like this look, sprint out to the three point line, turn around, hits the three and it's game that's the key.
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Scott Van Pelt
It wasn't just the stones, it was just how casual and like assured he was that this was the play to make at that moment. So.
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Ryan Marcillo
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Scott Van Pelt
Yeah, let's do it.
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Ryan Marcillo
Sheffler's 12 of the last three. Chance to repeat only Jack Faldo. Tiger as you know, but just want to make sure the historians historians are ready to go. There was a stretch last year when I was looking it up with Scheffler where it was like he hadn't played around over par in like a million. It was just absurd. He's not playing at the same level. So what's it like? Even though he's the favorite going into.
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Scott Van Pelt
The field, I think there's certain people through the years when you'd come here, obviously Tiger was the one that most people would identify and go, of course Scheffler's joined that group where it really is irrelevant if you've played well or not. Mostly he plays pretty well and for him, when he doesn't win. I almost wonder now if he's reached that place. Koepka has lived in this place his whole career where it's like, if I win, cool. But there's four a year that I'm really kind of ginned up to try to win. And Sheffield played pretty well recently in Texas, where he was right there in the mix and the mix early and then didn't win. But I don't think he cares. It's just, let's. Let's knock the rust off. Whatever's not quite right. Because when he comes here, he knows what it is to win. He knows what it feels like to win. And so I just will. As long as he's playing, I'm going to have him on that list of people that when he's on the first page on Sunday, you just go, well, right. Why wouldn't he be? You know what I mean? He does everything this place asks you to do, and knowing that you've done it is just got so much weight here. And because you come back every year, unlike the other majors. So I think form for him coming in truly doesn't matter at all.
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Ryan Marcillo
What makes him so special. I hate that we're sitting here in 2025 and I'm still, like, hinting at certain Tiger questions where it's like, what made him so special? But to try to put it into perspective, what is it about Scheffler's game that has had him at this level where it's like, okay, the conversation starts with him, and then it's everybody else. Not. Because it's definitely not the gap between Tiger and in the field, the way maybe we talked.
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Scott Van Pelt
No, because he's different, of course. Like, Tiger was singular. And at some point, you know, he'll be 53 coming off God knows what other surgery. Unfortunately, he's just had so many of them. At some point, we'll finally just go, you know what? It was a hell of a run. We're not going to use him as the yardstick because it's unfair to him and everyone else. What. What's different about Scheffler is that he's just this incredibly. He's so content with who he is and doesn't give a shit about the any of the rest. And Truly doesn't. A lot of people can say they don't care. Truly doesn't. And had lunch with television. Steve Sands, dear friend, and Justin Thomas during the rain out yesterday. And we just started talking about him. And I think Justin looks at a guy that's a peer and just was sharing how there's a certain. I think people marvel at someone that can wake up every day and do the same thing. Even after you got great at it. It takes a discipline to just. I'm just going to go hit balls and not going to change what I do, because what I do is really good. Tiger changed it a million different times. And I would always wonder, dude, why do you mess around? All you got to do is wake up and do what you do. Right. Chef does that. And what he does is he drives it great. He hits his irons close, he makes putts. When he misses greens, he gets up and down. He knows how to win. And when he's close, he does. And that sounds really simple, but it's really hard to do in the sport. And he checks every box, and he wakes up the next day and he does it again. And this is a sport where everybody's always chasing. If your top 20, you're trying to catch the 19 guys in front of you, and then if you get to top 10, you're trying to catch the nine guys. And sometimes you can open the door and let everybody else catch you because you stopped doing the thing that made you top 10, if that makes sense. I think Scheffler just has the genius of that guy, is he does what he has always done, and I think he'll continue to always do it. I don't think he's going to wake up someday and want to be some new version of himself. And there's a lot of. That's just. There's a secret in that, I think applies to anybody that's good at what they do in life.
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Ryan Marcillo
Rory's a great topic because I think it's so different. I mean, he comes onto the scene, he's immediately kind of the next guy. He's also a star. He has crossover appeal. That's just hard for a lot of guys on tour. But we're talking 10 years without a major. He's never wanted Augusta. He's second in the odds. He's been playing great this year. So what are we looking at?
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Scott Van Pelt
I picked him. You know, every year we're just asked to pick a player, which is always fun, like, right, hey, who's going to win the Super Bowl? All right, I can get the. I got the Chiefs and the Eagles. You want me to pick one of. I mean, in this field, smaller than, like, the other majors, but I got to pick one out of all these singular people. It's. It's a difficult thing. To do. Last year, I picked Scheffler because I said I don't want to be sitting there Sunday when he wins and go, why don't I just pick him? And the reason I picked Rory this year, Ryan, is I just, and this, I don't mean it to sound like some, you know, some horrible cliche, but I, I, I truly believe in life that there's a time that it's someone's time and it feels like it's his. And I think it's a combination of how he has played, how his prep has worked, and, and just at some point, a guy as good as him flushes whatever's happened here, good, bad, or indifferent, and just goes out and plays to his ceiling. And I don't know why I think it's this week, other than what I just said, but I really, I like him. He played great last year. Should have won. Could have won. I should say not. Should have. DeChambeau was excellent at Pinehurst, but could have won. Pinehurst missed a couple close ones, and that was gutting. And he's had a number of close calls. It could have won. Should have won at St. Andrews a couple years ago. Had the lead. It was gutting. This guy's got scar tissue. He's a thinker, but he's open about it. I just, I appreciate that, that there's a combination of just absolute badass and then the vulnerability of just like, fuck, this hurt, man. Like, I got knocked down, but I'm gonna get up and keep swinging. So I don't know, rooting for it. I wanted to overstate it. I just think it, if he won, I think a lot of people would just go right on. Good for that dude. You know what I mean? You finish the slam, and finishing the slam here is the hardest one, because you're going to come every year and you're going to get asked every year about. And every year you don't do it. It's like you add a pebble to the scale and it gets heavier, right? Because you're. I only got so many chances, man. So I don't know. I just have this odd sense that it's his turn and his turn, his turn and his time. He just needs to play well starting out. I'm sorry, I'm rambling. It's just that he, he's, he's put himself out of position so often. Early shoot 74 on Thursday, and then you're screwed because there's too many good people between you and the, and the lead. So for Him. I feel like it's just start well, and then you give yourself a great chance to do it.
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Ryan Marcillo
Let's talk about the course, though, because now that I've been playing a little bit more, now I'm starting to, like, appreciate stuff. Like, we did a boys trip to Pinehurst, so I think we played 1, 2, 4, and 5.
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Scott Van Pelt
2, okay?
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Ryan Marcillo
2 was out of the gates. Everybody thought I was lying. They're like, you're so full of. You're way better than your 10. And then after two, they're like, no, you suck. You're right. Never mind.
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Scott Van Pelt
That's always fun, right? You have. You hit two or three good shots in a row, and they're like, You're a sandbag. You're like, stick around.
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Ryan Marcillo
No, like, I was leading the thing based on my handicap. Like, I was out of the gates. Like, I played great. And then two was what happened. It was. It's just a lot of sand, man. There's just a lot of sand. And it's funny because I've played it at 2. I played at a few fancy courses now because it's nice that you get the invites. And, you know, like, I played Riv, and the guy was looking at my clubs. He's like, ooh, you know, I was like, what are you. You know, on tv, buddy, I think all that TV money went.
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Scott Van Pelt
I love it, right?
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Ryan Marcillo
And I was like, you know, some people have criticized that perhaps, like, it's a little too much of a players club, you know, not quite the shaper that I plan on being understood. But, you know, I like. I like. I like the way they feel. He's like, yeah, it. Whatever makes you feel good. And then by hole 14, he's like, you may want to find a more forgiving piece of equipment. And I was like. I was like, you were on my side. And like, first few holes, he's like, I'm no longer aligned with your.
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Scott Van Pelt
But he got the blades. You got. You got tour blades out there. Those things are hard to hit. There's like a sweet spot the size of a. Of a pest.
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Ryan Marcillo
Was funny because the caddy.
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Scott Van Pelt
That place will magnify your mistakes in a really gruesome way.
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Ryan Marcillo
So, like, the first day, I. I think we had the same caddy. And, you know, look, the dudes were fans of the show. They love you, which is really, you know, cool. And I, I, you know, with everything that we. We've done, I still love how often, you know, dude, it's been 10. It'll be 10 years that we Signed off this summer.
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Scott Van Pelt
Can I say something real quick on that note? I'm. I'm at the airport. I'm at national airport Sunday, and I'm sitting there, and we got a delay, and I just end up holding court with, like, this one guy said hello, and then some other people straggled up, and then up. It ended up with this group of people. They're like five or six people. And we're just talking and it. And we weren't talking about show I do or the show you do. They were talking about the show we did. And I told them the line. Remember the research group where they came back and they said about you and our show, rather, that it's not the biggest church, but it's always full. Remember that line?
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah.
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Scott Van Pelt
And that stuck with me. And I was like, it was. I. I. We always end up doing some version of this anytime we talk. But I think it's basically just. What I'm saying is, to those people in the airport and to the people that you're talking to at Pinehurst, it's just really cool that they enjoyed, obviously, what you're doing on your own. But what we did a long time ago, it's just. It's really, really one of the treasures of this career. Mine is that thing we. That space that you and I had for them to still talk about it. It's like. Like a TV show that, you know, had a limited run, but people are still fans of it. That's really, really fucking cool.
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Ryan Marcillo
So when they did, like, the caddy assignments, when I had to play two because everybody's like, look, two's. Two's gonna be a little tougher, buddy, than one. Like, one. I'm going like, I got to play one after two. Thank God, because I almost left. I had two was gonna be the last round, and I go, I'm playing again in the morning. And thank God I played one, because I got to get on the plane, like, feeling okay about myself, Cleanse the palate. Because two. Two was just horrifying. And then they were like, hey, there's a caddy that handles some of the famous guys here. I was like, oh, you know, like your joke. Playing with. He's like, no, you know, he wants to meet you. I was like, all right, yeah, whatever. And then the beginning, it's like, all right, yeah, nice. You know, like, they have hope that you're gonna play this great round, and I'm in that sand. And it's not the sand trap. It's the. On the sides that you're allowed to practice swing out of. And so, like, the first few times, I'm like, I'm gonna. I was like, I think I can clear this. Like, I can get a hold of this guy's like, absolutely, you can get a hold of this. Next thing you know, you're flushing the iron right into one of those mounds and you think your wrist is broken. And then even if you got it out, it's. Now it's just in the sand trap.
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Scott Van Pelt
And it's the native area. I believe they called it the native.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would like to be deported from that area.
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Scott Van Pelt
Understood.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. So, look, that was. That was rough. Look, there's a reason why I wanted to bring this up, and it wasn't for us to do story time, which I hope people don't mind too much, but now that I've played some courses and you understand, like, this was the concept, this was the setup. Right? This is. This is why this place is a layup. This is why this place is so hard. What is it about Augusta and the way it sets up for guys that, like, is. Is unique to the place?
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Scott Van Pelt
We talking routing here? No, I know. I know what you mean. No, what it's. The genius of the place is. And you've been here, so you can speak to it just. It's immaculate. It's perfect, it's pristine. Everything feels almost make believe. But the thing that I've heard, going back to way back when I started with, with players from, like, literally at this point, another generation, and then to Tiger, and then all the guys that have chased Tiger, is that it? If you understand how to play it, it's very playable. But if you're fractionally off and if you don't know where to miss, and you miss in the places where you can't miss, you're doomed. And so it's a process of learning what to do and how to do it, and then it's a matter of executing. Rory McElroy arrives as you and I talk early week. He knows exactly what he can and cannot do. The question then is, can he do it? And I think that it's the ultimate kingmaker. Course, because you're a forever player, like I was talking about. Jenkins is a forever player in the tournament. Right. And Sharpe had a chance to maybe be one. You win here, and you're a forever guy, and it's because of what it asks of you, and you can't kind of fake your way to it. And yet there have been guys that have one incredible moment Charles Schwartzel goes bananas on the second nine. Danny Willett goes bananas on the second nine. And it's a place where those guys have a two hour window of time where they executed. They knew where to hit it. They catch the right slope on 16 and now it's close. And all of a sudden, holy crap, they string the birdies together and they get to come back here for the rest of their life. It's that too. It's that carrot at the end of it. Knowing that Sunday, you know the great Wright Thompson, and I can only hear his words in his voice about talking about putting on a green jacket that reminds a man of who he was all those years ago. And you're like, get goosebumps, right? Like when you were the best version of yourself. And that's what this place does. So it's the course. Yes.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yellowstone season eight, huh? Yellowstone season eight.
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Scott Van Pelt
Yeah, it's along those lines. He's up, he's up there on. Up on the gulch, right? What you say? Some line about some shooter, only I remember something about a gulch or something.
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Ryan Marcillo
We, we used to do this stupid Brett Favre impersonation.
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Scott Van Pelt
That was it.
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Ryan Marcillo
And then it wasn't even Brett Favre anymore. So then all we would say is like terrain references. Like he's up on. He's up on the ridge there and I don't even know what we were doing.
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Scott Van Pelt
No, I don't either.
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Ryan Marcillo
Like here, here comes far. But he's pondering his next move up on the Crescent. I don't know.
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Scott Van Pelt
He's out there about Fiddler's Gulch.
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Ryan Marcillo
That's better. I like Fiddler's.
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Scott Van Pelt
I don't know. Anyway, that's right. Thompson talking about the mythology of the place. So. Yeah, it's the course.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah.
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Scott Van Pelt
It's the fact that you can right now if you've watched this at all. And I say ninth hole and you go, yeah, you got to hit it down there at the bottom of the hill. Then you hit it and then there's the. That that hole's got like three different distinct tiers. And if you're short, you're going to roll back down the hill and you're kind of screwed. Like, you just know the holes in ways you probably don't about other golf courses. So I don't know, maybe I'm overstating it because I've been here so much, but I don't think so. I think there's probably plenty of people listening that they just nod their head and go, yep, I know what Every hole out there looks like.
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Ryan Marcillo
No, that actually is, I think, the best explanation that I've ever heard about. Like, because people have knocked it, not knocked it, but whether you had the Tiger part of it, where, you know, early on, we're going back 25 years ago and be like, this course can't contain this dude, right? And then you had Bryson talk about it being a par 67 years ago, comes out of the gates. I think he shot at 65, and then I think he was over par the rest of the way. And everybody's, like, very protective of the place. Like, how dare you? You know, this blasphemous statement heading into this. So I. I think for people that don't really understand it, and I put myself into that group, it's like, okay, but, like, some places are long or some places are narrow and some places. And it's like, is it any of those things? And I think your explanation right now is. Is the easiest one to now kind of understand and how this course, specifically to its setup, like, maybe misleading and that there's just a lot of shots out there, as you said, that you can't. You can't get yourself into trouble with. A couple thoughts before we close up. Is there a. Is there a. A Masters Chris Paul for you? Someone who. You're like, man, I want this guy to get a jacket more than anybody.
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Scott Van Pelt
I think probably Rory, for the reasons that I. That I. That I spoke to earlier. There's. There's plenty of guys. Justin Rose is a guy that could have. Slash, should have won here, who's an awesome, awesome human. And I've said often that, you know, when your chance presents itself here, you better take it, because if you don't, then you're Scott Hoke on the other side of the ropes, your Ernie L's that had a chance. You're David Duvall, who was sitting in the Butler cabin watching and said. They said, oh, don't worry, nobody ever makes this putt when Marco Mara was on 18 because they think it's going to be a playoff. Then he buries it and, like, sorry, we're going to need to have you go, because Mark's going to come in here and put the jacket on, like, the chance when the window's there, you just have to hope that you can slip both arms in it, because if you don't, you have no idea if the opportunity presents itself again. And Rory's never been that close. You know, he stood on the tee on 10 famously, and then it all went wrong. I Just think in the sport, for who he has been to the sport, to win would be. It just would feel entirely appropriate, and it would feel like the end of a chapter in the book that would allow him the ability to put that book up and then just work on the rest of another book, a different book that doesn't include chasing this. So that would be. That'd be my guy. I'd. I'd like to see Rory for that reason.
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Ryan Marcillo
Our favorite houma. I know it's been a bit of a struggle in comparison. I mean, last year, he was just playing so well. Do you. Is he. You think it's a matter of him clearing his hips?
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Scott Van Pelt
I think it's probably. It's probably tempo, Ryan. I think it's tempo. And then you really want to. You really want to dig that left heel in. I don't. You tell me, what'd you learn at Pinehurst?
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Ryan Marcillo
I learned what not to do. I learned. You know what's funny is the guys in the group, the only guys. I mean, we had a guy shoot a 79. Another guy shot an 82 on two. Two on two. Yeah. Yeah. These guys could play. And one guy didn't even bring. He. He left the villa and left his driver in his bedroom. I was like, I'm not even giving myself the option. I'm not hitting this today. And then the other guy that I think that shot the 82 didn't. Didn't hit it. He had it in his bag. He's like, there's a few times I want to go to it, but I started playing so well, I was like, I'm not even going to hit it. I love that Michael Kim, friend of the program, has been on a run here, qualifying. Yeah, I just. I love this sport now in that. Imagine if you were an NBA player and it's like, what happened in 2019? Like, oh, I averaged four points a game then. Like, oh, you're getting 28 a game now. Maybe that's being a bit dramatic and not really it. You know, like, I think there's this group, I don't know where the defining line of how many guys that are qualifying every single week, but this line of.
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Scott Van Pelt
Of.
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Ryan Marcillo
Of players from down where you go, like, who's in and who's out just because of how. How delicate the performance can be.
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Scott Van Pelt
It's a fascinating sport. I'm looking at tee times which are embargoed, so I can't. I can't. This is. This is high level.
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Ryan Marcillo
All right, But I don't. The last Thing I want you to do is get anybody in trouble or get.
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Scott Van Pelt
No, no, no, no. Just like. But because we're going to.
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Ryan Marcillo
Scott. He's live from Valero.
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Scott Van Pelt
I've been in this sport for so long that I, I. There's really no one I don't root for because it could be a player or it could be a caddy or it could be some combination of both. And there's always, you know, this is Crunchy Dave from whatever. Like, these guys have got stories, sleeping cars, like people. It's a traveling circus, and it's a hard fucking sport to play. Well, it's so difficult. It's just you and, like, Max Homa, who, you know, is such an interesting and thoughtful guy who I think so many people have come to know because he's been so open about the struggle, and he got to, like, a great place, and now he's currently in the midst of a tough stretch, and it's like, I'm rooting for the next part where it's like the light comes on again for him, because it will. But when it's out and they're really no different than you on, too, in the sense that you're like, I don't know what the I'm doing or why or why isn't. I'm the same guy that did that. And. And right now, it's just not happening. And that fascinates me. So I root for the player over the course, always, because it's such a temporary thing when it's going well. And for those really rare people that only exist in that Scheffler space, I just. It's impossible to comprehend. And that's like. Like you mentioned the guy in the NBA, like, for LeBron, whatever. People, if they love him, if they don't like to root for him, if they're sick of him, whatever. He's 40 years old. @ the level he's at, it's impossible. Makes no sense. People that only live in that space in the penthouse forever, they're the true outliers. And so this sport has the guys that go, they bought the great house, and then they kind of got overextended because they leased a second vehicle for no good reason. And they probably had to trade it in, got to downsize, maybe had to move into an apartment with a buddy because things got sideways. I refer him to make. Buy that house again.
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Ryan Marcillo
You know, that second lease felt a little specific.
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Scott Van Pelt
There was a. There was a utility vehicle, I think, and a sports car. Right.
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Ryan Marcillo
Van Felt calls me up and goes, are you a two car guy now?
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Scott Van Pelt
I'm hearing now we're in boats and we've got this, We've got real estate. He's a magnate and things have changed things. But there was a window there. I just wanted to. I just. Because I was. I always felt like you were living in the space because I'm a decade older, where I remember coming to the place where I was like, hell, yeah. And I think maybe when it came to the two car thing, I think maybe I was just a little jealous. I think that's what that was. I wasn't trying to big brother you. I wasn't trying to son you. I think I was just pissed because I'm like, I want another car.
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Ryan Marcillo
No, because that's what was really cool. And I mean, it remains one of my closest relationships with you is that I definitely felt like I was like, he's fucking big brothering me again. And my problem is I would be like, don't, you know, like, I didn't know how to handle it because I'm obviously the older sibling. Right. I'd never been a younger brother in my entire life. And what I appreciate more now that I have a little bit more seasoning is that I was kind of doing exactly what you were doing just 10 years later. So, like when I finally moved to Hartford and then I moved into the fancy Hartford 21 and you came over to visit, you were like, dude, I should have done this. This place is sick. And the best punchline of the entire thing is having a 21st floor apartment in Hartford, Connecticut, and anyone describing it as sick. And then I bought a bar and just had every cordial imaginal Captain Late Night was back. And then I didn't. I think I had people over one time in the two years that I lived there, so. Right. But then when I moved. But the thing is, my expenses were so low. My expenses were so low. And then towards the end of the Connecticut run, now I remember my father being like, I thought you were doing better than this. And I just went, well, I don't know, I'm like, it's pretty turnkey. I mean, I'm battling with the HOA a lot. But yeah, when I, when I had that moment where I was like, maybe I'm just going to be here. Maybe this is just what I'm going to do and I'm going to be here. Granted, you were on like bigger shows. I was like, I'm getting a lease, I'm getting a little Lexus. I've Always liked him. I've never, never had a car car. I've always been a trucker SUV guy. And then I would have. I would have a choice each day. Although I think the HOA got up my ass about like, oh, so you're just taking up an extra parking spot. I'm like, I'm also not having any dependence, so I think I'm allowed to use one of the fucking main parking areas.
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Scott Van Pelt
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to put on my driving gloves and I'm going to go on 84 and we're going to go find. We're going down to Groton.
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Ryan Marcillo
Maybe. Let me just quickly adjust this to sport mode. And I will be using the driving pedals now.
- [53:43]
Scott Van Pelt
Look at you. How's the view? How's the view where you're living now? How's the HOA doing, kid? I think things. Who won this game? Rosillo did.
- [53:50]
Ryan Marcillo
I'm complimenting myself on the second car part of it, because I'm like 600 bucks a month to live this lifestyle. X is only 6. I might get a third one. That might be the Tuesday car. But what you realize is, you know, this isn't. This isn't the best way, you know, trying to navigate these tariffs right now. All right, the boat is good. We had a. We had a rough, rough day on the seas just a couple days ago. So, no, I checked the charts. I was on it two plus, you know, the. The rhythm of the swells is a little quicker than I would have liked, but it had been a really, really windy week. Okay, Incredibly windy week. So I felt like, all right, it's died down a bit. A little Friday sunset deal. I come out of the marina. I'm immediately. Just bow down. All right, you know, a little power up, slow off the back. Just getting hammered. And then I was like, this is really, really bad. And I'm like, I have to drive into it to stay straight into the swells, but I'm going to have to turn this thing around. And then I was worried that I was going to lose power in the boat because the alarms were going off, the thing was getting its. And it's a big boat. And as soon as I had a. Yeah, as soon as I had to turn around, I knew I was going to get kind of. I was trying to time it perfectly so I could get it turned back around. And, you know, I caught one pretty good on the side, but it was fine. She held. She held up well. But I. I don't think the bilge. Loved it at one point because the alarm went off for a second.
- [55:19]
Scott Van Pelt
And it's. Bilge management is really something I have never had to consider.
- [55:23]
Ryan Marcillo
So at least I knew it was the village. The first time that thing goes off, you're like, you're trying to be like, hey, Rod, I got a boat. It's like, oh, the alarm went off 15 minutes into the ride. I mean, that's the thing with you entertain on a boat.
- [55:38]
Scott Van Pelt
You're looking through the manual flick. What's that noise?
- [55:41]
Ryan Marcillo
Right? Like, get the fire extinguisher ready. I don't know what that alarm is. All right, thank you. Enjoy. August. Say hi to Faldo and Ogilvy for me and the boys.
- [55:53]
Scott Van Pelt
Par three's Wednesday, two Eastern, then we'll see from the Butler cabin. Thursday and Friday, I'm doing the part three this year. Home is going to be with us. Wyndham Clark's going to be with us. A little ESPN plus just getting things going early noonish east coast. So it's actually a fun day. Part three is a cool deal. Gives you a little shot at the adrenaline of what's coming, but it's also like, you know, it's wild deal where everybody just sort of enjoys it and it's. Then you get going. I don't know, it's it. You don't do this anywhere else. You know what I mean? Like, have this kind of fun, uber relaxed day in advance of the first of the most important rounds of the year. So always enjoy. Wednesday's my favorite day, so I look forward to that and this. But I look forward to this. I. I'm psyched that we could catch up and always happy to do it.
- [56:41]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, that's going to be great. And I'm fired up for you on the part three. So again, you said two Eastern, Eastern audience cover, GSPN and then your podcast.
- [56:51]
Scott Van Pelt
Yeah, we're going to bang that. I'm going to knock that out right now. Think I gave. I think I used all the good stuff. That's fine.
- [56:59]
Ryan Marcillo
All right. All right. What day does it come out though? Regularly? I'm allowing you the, the room.
- [57:04]
Scott Van Pelt
We normally on Monday, sort of, you know, post whatever went on on the weekend. We normally do that. And then during college football we were doing those late night ones and then you and McShade came, put together a great one too. I just think that's a fun time to be on. If it's better for you on the west coast, if you're on the west coast because you don't have to do it at 2:30 in the morning waiting for BYU Iowa State to finish. We had a BYU Utah one that was a little later than some. But no, but no. Typically it's Monday, so.
- [57:36]
Ryan Marcillo
Were you surprised? Well, I think I was surprised a lot of us that the industry stuff at some of the conferences that you and Steve didn't go six kids, two dads for the title of the pod.
- [57:49]
Scott Van Pelt
It was on the list. We're thinking about it. Thinking about it, yeah.
- [57:54]
Ryan Marcillo
Might have been misleading.
- [57:55]
Scott Van Pelt
You're way more successful and accomplished in the podcast space, so I defer to whatever you think makes sense.
- [58:02]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. Well, table that. Table that for next time. You're the man.
- [58:05]
Scott Van Pelt
Always welcome, sir. Be well.
- [58:09]
Ryan Marcillo
You want details?
- [58:10]
Scott Van Pelt
Fine.
- [58:11]
Kyle
I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet.
- [58:14]
Ryan Marcillo
What's up?
- [58:16]
Kyle
I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine.
- [58:21]
Ryan Marcillo
And best of all, kids, I am liquid.
- [58:24]
Kyle
So now you know what's possible. Possible. Let me tell you what's required.
- [58:28]
Ryan Marcillo
Our email address to help you is lifeadvicermail.com We've got Kyle, we always have Wargon, potentially Ceruti on call. So our guy, who knows, don't want to share too much, but good things. Good things. But he's not with us today. What's up with you, man? You're looking. Wait, you just finished up the Final Four. Are you in San Antonio right now?
- [58:55]
Kyle
I'm in San Antonio in the Airbnb with a little bit of an extended checkout and then I'm. I'm headed back to the. The west coast, but a couple of Central Time kids right now.
- [59:04]
Ryan Marcillo
The rare extended. Well, although I imagine there's not a.
- [59:07]
Kyle
Ton of people Tuesday knocking on the door.
- [59:11]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, right. Like, do they have it rented out on the Tuesday night after the Final Four? Likely no.
- [59:17]
Kyle
I think a lot of Airbnbs are doing cleaning after the Final Four because I've noticed a lot of dudes treat this like the super bowl where they like, bounce before the actual game, but they spend like five good days having fun. And then like, you go to the media section on the title day and you're like, what the hell happened?
- [59:32]
Ryan Marcillo
Anyway, a zag on checkout times. I see this a lot, right. I've seen people complain about it and I know that I've complained about it in the whole idea of like, you have to check out at 11. A lot of places go 12 if you have the AMEX Platinum, one of the features if you want it. A lot of places Let you check out a little bit later. Sometimes you just have to ask. I had a flight that was delayed and I just said, hey, is there any way I can check out at like 4:00 this afternoon? And they said, for 60 extra dollars, you can I go? You know, that's a.
- [60:07]
Kyle
That's the most anything's ever been.
- [60:09]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, right. And it wasn't like one of those deals where you like went out and you're just going out, you know? No, it wasn't even that. It was just the flight was delayed and I was like, it's just going to suck to have my bags down here and then walk around a city for three, four hours until you get to the airport. So I understand, and I don't want to call it selfish, but it seems like a selfish argument. And because so many people would benefit from the, can I check in early? Can I check out later? Like, who's walking around America going, I don't want that? Right. But it just seems to be a generally accepted thing, as if it's almost this scam. And I would just ask anyone this, does anyone think about the hotel workers? Does anyone think about the person who has to manage the outflow versus the inflow of guests? That if you just told everybody, yeah, no, it's cool, just chill out. Like, feed up, 2 o'clock, you do you whenever you want.
- [61:01]
Kyle
Oh, people disrespect hotel rooms. It's not just like, you know, you're cleaning off a table at a diner or something. Like, you gotta check.
- [61:08]
Ryan Marcillo
You feel like, oh, you, you wanna check in at 1? Yeah, well, no, you can do whatever you want. Because we let people leave when they want and then you can check in whenever you want. And we're just going to figure out a way to make it work. I don't know that the math adds up on that. So even though it's a generally accepted thing because it would benefit a greater number of people, so then because of that, then everybody just agrees that it must be a great idea. I don't know. I've thought about it. I've thought about it too often. I go, if everybody got their way on this, would a room ever be clean? Would you actually want that? Would you want your room to just be like, yeah, we just kind of patted down the.
- [61:45]
Kyle
Everything's a red roof in. It's like, yeah, I don't know.
- [61:48]
Ryan Marcillo
If you're down a couple towels, let us know. We'll run some up. Like, here's a toilet brush.
- [61:55]
Kyle
Yeah, nobody checks until 6:00pm ever.
- [61:58]
Ryan Marcillo
All right, I thought that was at least worth. Worth mentioning. All right, read a couple emails here. There's like a hotel manager going, finally somebody.
- [62:09]
Kyle
Can I just say somebody gets it because I don't think we're going to get to it. I showed Wargon off air a nice little gift from J. Kyle Mann as we ended the season yesterday. He handed me a signed Rick Pitino baseball card. I mean he's throwing a baseball, certainly a trading card. And I was over the moon.
- [62:28]
Ryan Marcillo
That's incredible. But a lot of people that ran into Kyle in the basketball world, I had a few people reach out to me going, salt of the earth. Salt.
- [62:37]
Kyle
What, this weekend? Yeah, I ran into a lot of dudes this weekend.
- [62:42]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, look, you were in the mix and people were reaching out to me just going, that guy. So approval rating even higher, if that's possible. Let's get to the emails, gents. Apologies for the long email, but Here it goes. Six foot one, 255 former college offensive lineman. Benchmark 335 for three. Whoa. All right. Big dog squat 455 for three. I'm a 31. I've been on four dates now with a 34 year old woman who is quite frankly out of my league in terms of physical attractiveness. She's drop dead gorgeous. Picture attached. And while I'm not a bad looking guy. Picture attached. I know I'm punching above my weight here. Kyle, I don't know if you want to check your inbox here.
- [63:16]
Kyle
I will.
- [63:17]
Ryan Marcillo
We're handling you the data on this one as well. She's also exactly what I'm looking for. Ambitious, professionally minded, fitness oriented, former college athlete. We share some overlapping hobbies. Real estate, Pilates, good food, good wine. The date's been pretty awesome. But here's where I'm stuck. I've paid for literally everything on all four dates. Date one, drinks and dinner. 350 dinner and Hamilton on date two. I like Hamilton. We all do. Greg. Dinner in Hamilton. $900. Date three, Pilates class. Use one of my credits for her to attend date four. Social club, pool, lounging and dinner. $200. When I say I paid for everything, I mean I even paid for her Uber's home after dinner. She hasn't reached for a wallet once. Look, I'm not the guy who's going to ask to split the bill on the first or even second date. Especially when I'm the one suggesting the date activities. But after dropping almost $1500 over four dates, I'm starting to Wonder, am I being used? A few things to note. I won't go into our prospective professions, but for context, we both do. Well, she definitely makes more than I do. Probably around twice as much. I make around 300k and she makes around 600k. She doesn't come from family money. I do. The dates happen in quick succession. Date one on a Friday night. Date two the next night. Date three on a Monday morning, two days later, Monday morning date. Oh, that was crushed.
- [64:34]
Kyle
It's like a barrage. Yeah, he got a reprieve with the Pilates.
- [64:40]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, but he used one of his credits, which he did point out to us. Date four, the following Friday. Despite the no paying thing, everything else is green flag. She asked about my life, compliments my intellectual, even says it's the thing she finds most attractive. She's big on pda, even though we're just four dates in. In terms of little things, she's attentive. She doesn't have her phone out on dates and hasn't been late even once to the date. Maybe that's just a major green flag for me in particular, but I think it matters. We've known each other for about a year through a social club we both belong to. Both of us were in a relationship at the time. We saw each other in a large group of mutual friends at a fundraiser recently, and she initiated the flirting with me, which led to setting up the first date. The big question, how do I bring up the conversation around date costs without sounding petty or making it weird? Am I overthinking this is the time to put a stop to the endless paying? Appreciate the help. All right. She is very attractive. Certainly you are. You are not as attractive as her, which you pointed out. Kyle, nice smile.
- [65:39]
Kyle
And I like the long gold chain on our guy in this photo.
- [65:42]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, look, I love this guy. Okay? O Line. O. Lines are givers, so I'm surprised they sacrifice. So, look, I understand kind of what you're saying here, but I'm. I'm worried. I'm worried, like, this will always happen. This happens whenever, you know, I'm debating with somebody else or, you know, sometimes I'm trying to make a point. And, you know, when you want to get your point across, there's certain things that you should do or not should not do. But sometimes the old Tirico rule is, like, making the extra points can detract from the main point that you're trying to make. And so, all right, dinner, drinks, Hamilton dinner, social club, pool dinner. But then the fact that you throw in that you had to use a class credit to the Pilates thing to, like, hey, this is the, like, of the four dates. Like, I even kind of went in on this one instead of just being like, oh, sweet, I had a credit. Didn't even cost me anything. I don't want to suggest that you're cheap, but you clearly think about this a lot. All right, now, look, if you're out there in the wild and you're just crushing it and this is something that does bother you and you have other options, then, all right, fine, bring it up. But you're going to fuck it up by bringing it up. You are. It sounds like everything about her is something that you really like.
- [66:59]
Kyle
And so no thing is huge. Like, the, like, doesn't reach her phone on the date once to, like, check the time even. That's huge because that could take you out of you. Like, I wonder what she's doing over there. And then the bill seems like it costs even more when you're like, is she even enjoying this? So that's a major green flag. I agree with you and him.
- [67:17]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. Right. And look, I. I don't. I don't know if it's. If it's something with me in particular, but, I mean, I'm just a point in my life and have been for a long time that I'm just going to pay for stuff, and I'm not. I'm not going to freak out about it. I think it's nice if the other person can offer, like, one time or grabs a lunch early on, which would be the absolute, like, best way to. If you're a female woman listening to this right now is like, grab an early, like 40, $60 lunch.
- [67:52]
Scott Van Pelt
Yeah.
- [67:52]
Ryan Marcillo
You know, early cash. Right. So then it's like, all right, she gets it. This is great. And then you never really have to buy anything again if the guy's willing to pay for everything, but he's just constantly thinking about that lunch and point. You could trick a lot of us dudes. So true. By doing that. Just pick up, like, the third thing in a lunch, and you're just off the hook forever for it. I don't know how you bring this up without it being weird, because even if you're right, it's probably not going to go great with this. You might be just on a heater of emotion. And she's super into you, and you've hung out four times in what, the span of eight to 10 days here. So I would just say you need to ride this out. It seems like you really like her. It seems like you're getting along. The fact that you were both in relationships before and met each other and then she initiated all of this. So it says that maybe she had always had some interest in you. So I'd ask you this, are you looking for a long term person? And the fact that maybe, maybe, I don't know, like, are you constantly worried about money or should you not be worried about money? Because you also come from money. Like there's also guys that, I know that it's kind of a default of like the entire way they navigate their 20s and early 30s. I'm not saying this is great, but like, if I don't have it, but you know, the guys that have it, the people that know, like, no matter what, it's probably all going to work out for them financially. There should be a little bit more freedom than the day to day obsession of what the, you know, I'm checking my Chase account. It's like you spent 1200 more dollars this month than you did last month. You know, like, you just look at your app going, I don't need this, I don't need this right now. So, you know, if you're, if you're on the tighter end of the spectrum listening to this right now, maybe you're arguing, hey, you know, but he already told us he's making 300k. Is it because she's making 600k and it's pissing you off a little bit? I'm just telling you this is a damn near impossible thing to pull off without getting some sort, like she's going to tell. He's like, oh, you know, he actually kind of said, you know, hey, do you mind getting a dinner? You know, and then it's all going to be talked about in a way that's not fair to you at all. I'm like, oh my God, he actually, he said that and she's not going to go, yeah, like, literally I've paid for nothing the entire time.
- [70:03]
Kyle
Her friend Jennifer's not going to be on your side, that's for sure.
- [70:07]
Ryan Marcillo
You know, and then they all start working together in their hives. And now you're, you know, you might be a six, you're getting downgraded to a four and a half because you brought this thing up. So then they're in her ear and, you know, who knows? We're all, we're all more impressionable, I think at times than we want to be. So I'm just telling you, you asked, hey, should I just Put this to bed. Should I stop worrying about this? The. The quickest advice would be yes, if you like her enough. I mean, if you didn't have a good time, if you weren't attracted to her and all these different things, but, like, you're starting to get into the 30s there, buddy. Not everybody's going to be going for this offensive line look that you're rocking. Kyle loves your gold chain. I love the confidence that comes with that gold chain. And I. I bet you're a hell of a time. But you said yourself, she's out of your league. And I would say the pictures. Yeah. Confirm it. Right, Kyle? I mean, again, I don't want to be a dick about this guy, but this is true.
- [71:01]
Kyle
It's totally true. And I was thinking, like, I have a point to make, but I was going to ask, how much of the blame pie do you think that Hamilton took if they just went to another, like, just another restaurant? It was, like, a cool 300 night. You left a nice tip. You feel cool about yourself, but, like, you throw the Hamilton. Even that, even at this far removed from the premiere, it's still. It's still quite a hit. And I just wonder how much if he was just like, man, if we didn't do that, then you'd have, you know, three dates cost as much as your Hamilton tickets, it sounds like. So I was thinking about that, but the other thing is, like, it's a good call.
- [71:31]
Ryan Marcillo
Like, was it Hamilton?
- [71:34]
Kyle
Yeah. Yes. Maybe. It's like, you know, I'm not really into theater now. I just. I realized. But, you know, whatever. But I think. I think about how long ago this was totally traditional. Are we talking, like, three years? Like, every dude would be like, of course I'm paying for everything. Like, think about how that wasn't. We're not that far removed. And that's why I think those men on the streets where there's like, a guy who comes up to me, like, do you think he should pay for everything? Like, do you get so many of those reactions that those guys want? Because it's. We're not that far away from when everyone thought this way. It's like, well, yeah, I'm the man. I pay for everything. And so I think that's not so crazy that she might be in that world. And I saw a tweet, like, yesterday. It was like, hot girls in their 20s just think, wow, I just keep getting so lucky. They must just think to theirself. I'm on a heater of luck right now. So I Think you add all that together and decide if this is the person that you want to be texting and excited about seeing or not. I know. Maybe marry her, get some of that family money, and you won't worry about any of this if you're in the. For the long haul. But.
- [72:38]
Ryan Marcillo
But he has the money, though. He has the family money.
- [72:41]
Kyle
Oh, that's right. Well, I don't know what you're getting, so. Sounds like she's got a pretty good foundation. I think. Think this is totally normal in your situation. And sometimes you get a girl that has that whole package and also is like, I don't want to owe you anything, but other girls don't look at it that way. So I guess my point is this. There was a point not so long ago that this was across the board how everything was done, so it's not so crazy.
- [73:07]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah.
- [73:07]
Kyle
Suck, though.
- [73:09]
Scott Van Pelt
Does suck.
- [73:11]
Ryan Marcillo
Don't worry about it, man. Don't worry about it. I. I think, you know you're going to be paying for everything if you marry her anyway, right? Actually, she, you know, who knows?
- [73:21]
Kyle
You get married, big cash infusion there, right? You got to wait for your inheritance.
- [73:25]
Ryan Marcillo
600K a year. Who knows? It might all come around.
- [73:29]
Kyle
You get season tickets to Hamilton.
- [73:32]
Ryan Marcillo
All right, here's one of the darkest emails we've ever gotten. And yes, of course, super late at night, I'm sitting on my ass at a gas station smoking cigarettes. My feet are drenched in rain. I'm throwing in the towel.
- [73:46]
Kyle
This is depression or just a bad day, I think.
- [73:48]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. Check in with us Thursday, let us. Let us know. Any had any of those?
- [73:57]
Kyle
Yeah, it was more in the cabs. Days before Uber was in Poughkeepsie. You know, it was just like there was two cab companies, and you wait too long to secure one. You wait till last call. Everyone's doing that phone call, and you know, they're like, 40 minutes, and now everyone's gone. You call the cab company. It's like, hey, it's been 50 minutes. And they're like, well, we're not here yet. And then you get upset because you had a few, and they're like, we'll call someone else. And they hang up. And I'm like, I think I'm done here. I don't know. Got to walk down the old Route 44 to get home or something. I don't know what to do here. So I've had a couple of those asked out. Just waited too long to secure the rides. But Uber's changed the game.
- [74:32]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. Smoking in the rain at a gas station. I mean who knows when that was sent. Maybe 2am Just check in with us Thursday. We're worried about you. Okay. Standing for the national anthem. Nabar. Yo guys, best NBA comp bow outlaw. No jump shot but all hustle can rebound and jump into passing lanes. Ear your thoughts on this as I still occasionally think about this. Is it a bar in San Francisco watching the Packers Eagles playoff game? Go Birds. Been here multiple times. This is known as an Eagles bar where you get fans from all over the east coast are relocated to the bay. Maybe 30, 40 people in the back room at different picnic style tables before the game and everyone is pretty excited and hyped for the game. During the broadcast they are showing the national anthem performance. This then resulted In a woman, mid-50s standing up along with her husband and yelling at everyone else for not standing up. At first I chuckled thinking she may have had too many, but they were both serious and continued to yell at people to stand for the anthem. This may come as a shock to you, but no one stood up except for one guy who was close enough to them. I guess he might have felt guilty and did. I'm all for being patriotic and of course will stand for the anthem in person for any game that I am at. Kudos to you, but standing up for an anthem of bar to the lady. Do you do that at home when you watch a game? Seems a bit off to me and curious what you guys think here. Am I crazy? No, you're not crazy.
- [75:50]
Kyle
You're not crazy. This is kind of like an endearing part of being out at a bar. You just get people from all walks of life. There you go. But definitely not normal. I was just at that. I was just at a Houston or San Antonio brewery and there's a large bar and there's people standing in line. I took a picture of it. I was so fascinated and I was like, this is how they do it here. I didn't wait in the line. Spoiler. I just stood next to the line and sat at a bar like normal. And I was like, hey, you mind if I close out? But that's just how some people do bars, I guess. So it's just to each their own. And I think a bar is a pretty cool place to just, you know, find out what other people are up to. And some people are standing for the anthem. So I might have stood just to be like, all right, well it's not a big deal, but not out of principle like to anti standard. It's Just, you know, bars are a little looser. Find a new experience.
- [76:40]
Ryan Marcillo
Darwin. You're like a Darwin, but for dive bars.
- [76:42]
Kyle
Yeah, totally.
- [76:45]
Ryan Marcillo
Wargon.
- [76:46]
Kyle
Yeah.
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Scott Van Pelt
Would I stand at a bar?
- [76:53]
Ryan Marcillo
Is that the question?
- [76:54]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [76:54]
Ryan Marcillo
I wanted someone.
- [76:55]
Kyle
If someone asked you to.
- [76:57]
Scott Van Pelt
No.
- [76:59]
Kyle
Okay.
- [76:59]
Scott Van Pelt
No chance.
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Ryan Marcillo
Yeah.
- [77:00]
Scott Van Pelt
No.
- [77:01]
Kyle
No words either. You're not saying anything. You're just like, yeah, I'm just like, single me out.
- [77:05]
Scott Van Pelt
And you.
- [77:05]
Kyle
And you want. You got problems with me, I guess we'll talk about it, but.
- [77:08]
Ryan Marcillo
Right. It's different when you're there. Almost define about it.
- [77:14]
Kyle
I don't know.
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Scott Van Pelt
I think.
- [77:15]
Kyle
I think in a bar, you can get more people rowing in the same direction in a very short span of time. Like, if somebody just started singing a song everybody knows in a bar. Like, that's what used to happen. Right.
- [77:24]
Ryan Marcillo
If. If the anthem ends and someone chants USA Okay. People are gonna chant it.
- [77:29]
Scott Van Pelt
Sure.
- [77:29]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. Wow. Nice master shirt, by the way. Thanks. I don't know if you're gonna get a 100 participation on a chant going. Maybe. Depends on the age. Age range. Age.
- [77:43]
Scott Van Pelt
If it's.
- [77:43]
Ryan Marcillo
If it's USA Hockey or something like that, I think you have a really good chance. But, yeah, I. I don't know. God, I'm in the beginning there. War gone, you said. But I think you're right. I think you're right on this one. I don't think anybody does this. As an aside, I remember we were talking one time. I think it was when I was with Cannell, and somebody that was working on the show suggested that when they're watching a game on TV at home, he has his children stand up for the anthem. And it. We were just kind of looking around going, really? And then he was almost annoyed that we. It's not that we were annoyed. We just thought it was weird, you know? You want to know who was super annoyed? My father. My father was listening in the car while he heard this conversation happening. He's like, there's no way that's true. He's like, that guy made that up. He was like. He was upset about it. I was like, look, I don't. Maybe I put you two guys on a call, but I don't know. I don't know that there's going to be a resolution of this entire thing, really. I think back to the email's original question. You're not weird. That's. It's like to sit here and say, hey, definitely don't do it. Sounds as if we're being disrespectful. That's not the memo here, it's pretty clear that I don't think I've ever seen that. I don't know that I've ever been to a bar before a game and the anthem's going on. Not that I like to go to bars to watch games in general all that much. But people aren't standing.
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Kyle
What if the guy. Let's say it's a man. It's got a Marine's hat on. It says veteran.
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Ryan Marcillo
A mailman.
- [79:08]
Kyle
Yes. He did 20 years in the Marines. 20 years for USPS. And he's got both on. And he goes, son, stand for the anthem. Are you going to argue with that guy?
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Ryan Marcillo
Does he have to stand up?
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Kyle
He's got the hat.
- [79:26]
Ryan Marcillo
He has the hat.
- [79:26]
Kyle
Veterans got his years on it.
- [79:29]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah, I might stand up and give him a yo pat on the back.
- [79:34]
Kyle
Yeah, I think so.
- [79:36]
Ryan Marcillo
But that feels like a. That feels like a Coors Light equation scenario.
- [79:40]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [79:41]
Ryan Marcillo
Zero Coors Lights. Not standing. Three to six standing.
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Kyle
I'm gonna ask him a few questions.
- [79:47]
Ryan Marcillo
After seven plus not standing. All right, let's get one more email. Thanks, Oregon. That was great. Appreciate it. Oh, my God. I wanted a. Hey, guys. And he didn't give it to us.
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Kyle
We have it in post, man.
- [80:04]
Ryan Marcillo
Oh, that's right. Oh, great. Hopefully. Okay. Should I keep artwork by my ax? I really want that. I'm going to go back and listen to this episode now because I want to hear it. Hey, fellas. Love the pod, especially life advice. 54, 6 foot 1, 245, benching 205. Coming back from a bad pinch nerve. Heading back to 225. You certainly are with an arrow, sir. No squats or deadlifts. I said, sir, he's like a couple years older than me. No squats or deadlifts because knees and back always feel tender from pickup hoops which I play one or two times. One or two times too often per week. I love this. All right, player comp. Very discounted. Brian Scalarini after his red hair fades at dirty blonde and gray like mine has. At least you have it. At least you have it, sir. Decent player, but never as good as others I'm playing with. Can shoot the three post up. A favorable matchup. Will randomly have an amazing game and better than than people expect. One on one. What's your usage in three point ratio? All right, my situation is this. I broke up with my recent ex two and a half years ago. She's a very good artist and won a very. And I won a very good drawing from her in A card game. All right. Wow. This guy's a regular Doc Holliday here. The drawing is of a tree representing how I see myself as shade and protection for my family and crew. I got it professionally framed and hung it in my bedroom. I should mention that I have no lingering feelings for my ex. The chapter is well and truly closed. But I chose this spot in part because it's a legit nice piece of art. In part because it reminds me of who I am and strive to be in the world. How about that? A tree providing shade which is interpreted as protection. I like that. The issue is I recently started dating a woman. Seriously. Someone I really like and respect. I suspect it would look odd to her that I keep it piece of art by my ex, not only in my life, but in my bedroom. What would you do in this situation? Leave it hanging where it is because it's important to me as its aesthetic and its symbolism and not the person who created it. Maybe. And maybe hope my new lady never asks who the artist is. And if she does, do I lie about the artist, tell the truth because but focus on the symbolism as to why I've kept it or do I move to a different non core location in my place, give it away? Some other solution I haven't kept considered. I welcome any and all suggestions. Thanks guys. You know, honestly, I think the art could be like a really nice test. Could be a test for whoever is next in the dating pool. Because it sounds like based on your hoop skills that are underrated or underappreciated based on first impressions, you know, is it more of a red flag if you started dating somebody? Be like you have a picture of art that you're extrude in your bedroom. That might be a really good sluice box of life right there. Where if somebody was upset about it, does that mean that they're actually the issue where as opposed to somebody that you meet, you're getting along with. I mean, they're in your room and they go, I think that's really cool. And then maybe you realize that that person gets it, has a mature way of looking at the world, which I'd imagine at your age is probably more your preference than dealing with the bullshit of somebody who's maybe emotionally unstable or insecure, not because of their upbringing, just because they might be a little bit younger about certain things. So I would say leave it there and use it as a test.
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Kyle
If it's a test, I'm going to consider it like I did in high school, like the SAT And I'm just going to take the act instead because I heard there was less math. So I think as long as it's not important to you for this person or future people to know what the backstory is on this painting, never has to see the light of day. And, you know, if it was me, I'd probably think about what I would say if the time comes. But, you know, got it at a consignment shop. Whatever you like it. I don't think you should not have to have it. I don't think you should.
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Ryan Marcillo
So you say lie.
- [83:52]
Kyle
Yeah, I do say. I say lie if it comes up. I think it just seems like, you know, I guess if enough time has passed and, like, the relationship's going well. I was just thinking like, like, you say it's a test. Maybe she fails the test and the last person that she was with cheated on her and she found out. It was like this whole backstory thing where he had a ex girlfriend that was coming around. It's so. It just might be one of those things, like, why introduce this into your life, man? It's not actually a, you know, malicious, or you're not doing anything wrong, but you like it where it is and it doesn't change what the thing means to you. You've like, it's life advice. You're anonymous. You could have totally said if you're like, yeah, sometimes I still thinking about her. But you never do. So at least that's what you tell us. So I would just. I take the act instead.
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Scott Van Pelt
Dude. Yeah.
- [84:38]
Ryan Marcillo
Or just put it in the hallway. Yeah, Right. Always.
- [84:40]
Kyle
Great.
- [84:40]
Ryan Marcillo
Put in the hallway. Hallway.
- [84:41]
Kyle
Underrated spot for good paintings. Usually people put them in like a living room or a bedroom.
- [84:45]
Scott Van Pelt
Yeah.
- [84:46]
Kyle
Maybe jump boost your hallway game a little bit.
- [84:49]
Ryan Marcillo
Yeah. But again, how many. There's a certain age where you. You can't have nice stuff on a hallway.
- [84:54]
Scott Van Pelt
Yes.
- [84:55]
Ryan Marcillo
Wall. You know, because you just know dudes are going to be banging into stuff. All right, that'll do it for the show today. Thanks to Wargon. Thanks to Kyle Jonathan Frius. And we're not going to get emotional about Serity, but maybe we'll have them Thursday, maybe we won't, but we're excited either way. You can check out our podcast on the Spotify app where you can watch the video, of course, our YouTube page. So please subscribe. Ryan Vasila Podcast Bringer Spotify. Hey, guys. Must be 21 and older president. Select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + and present in D.C. gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 800-80-878-97777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit MD gambling help.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit Gambling Helpline ma.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-87-7-8, Hope NY or text Hope NY in New York.