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Insane Josh Allen, Lions Injury Crisis, Mahomes Concerns, Sneaky Bucs, and More with Albert Breer
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Ryan Resilio
On today's episode. Football, football and more football. Yeah, fired up. We'll do some NBA for you on Wednesday. A lot of it. But today starts with the Bills and their win in Detroit. I have some thoughts on that. Dan Campbell decision making, the injuries. Also an award on I touched it. See if you can figure that one out. I cover a lot of the different games including Phillies win at Pittsburgh and a few others in a stat for you that's depressing. Breer goes deeper on all this. The Allen MVP push the turnaround from homes with this injury in the schedule. So there's a lot there. Coaching futures, quarterback contracts and life advice. We get to the bottom of whether or not I gave blades to Kyle this episode of the Ryan Resilo podcast is presented by State Farm. Bring home a win with an affordable price when you bundle home and auto with the personal price plan. Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can bundle and save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by State Farm. This episode is brought to you by Duluth Trading Company. From what I've seen over the years, if you want to up your game, then settling for average shouldn't be an option. Duluth Trading Outthink, outsmart and outdo average with every piece of men's and women's gear they build. It's why they fabricate fire hose pants to be especially tough, pack their bibs full of pockets and make sure buck naked underwear feels barely there. It's all about innovating ingenious gear that you just won't find anywhere else. Shop online or in store today. Visit Duluth trading.com We start in Detroit with the Bills Lions. Potentially a Super bowl preview. NFL Week 15 let's do this. So this is a four game stretch here for Buffalo where they beat Kansas City, they trounced the Niners, they lost against the Rams. Where we could point to some defensive issues that are concerning. Maybe some of those issues that we saw again yesterday against Detroit. Although Detroit's playing catch up because for three plus hours Buffalo was the better football team. So now we take a look at the rest of the schedule after this last month and the Bills have the Pats, jets and then at the Pats. So little easier sledding for the Bills. Buffalo's now gone eight straight games with 30 plus points. That ties an NFL record and I don't have a perfect way to Describe what Josh Allen is doing other than when you're watching this every single week. It feels like he's doing basketball things in a football field. And what I mean by that is football. Football is such a connected sport. Everybody has to do their job for something to work. All these other things had to work out for you. If one piece of it's off, maybe you get away. A couple pieces are off. The whole play screwed up. You call the wrong play against the wrong defense, all these different things. Allen just has a lot of moments. It feels like once every single Bill's possession where he is just above all the things happening, like he is just going to fix it and make something amazing happen. There's a play that points this out, first and 10 at their own 30. He escapes a sack. He rolls to his right. He starts directing traffic. He's on the right sideline. He knows he's about to get hit by an oncoming pass rusher. He hits Keon Coleman in stride for 64 yards down the right sideline. Plus the roughing the passer hit. This is the Mike Ditka balls of a mountain lion reference that I've brought up a few different times. Back in the early days of espn, hanging out on a Sunday, getting ready to do a Sunday shift to entertain a nation. Mike Ditka would escape from the TV people. He'd come over to radio, he'd throw in a huge chaw. Sometimes he would fall asleep in the chair. But then he would wake up and he would see Brett Favre extend a play for his tight end to get a release, knowing that he was going to get murdered. And Ditka would stand up or just sit upright and scream, balls of a mountain lion. When he would talk about Brett Farr. The other thing is, when you hit Alan even late, it's like it doesn't even bother him. So it's plays like that where, again, I feel like it's every possession with Bills, the Bills run this year offensively, where Allen just does something that's, you know, look, Lamar does it. Mahomes does these things. I'm not saying he's the only one who's ever done it, but he's just done an absolute roll. He hasn't thrown a pick since Oct. 27. He has 11 rushing touchdowns. Only six running backs in the NFL have more than him. We got an autogram graphic yesterday. Not since. There's a lot of not since with Josh Allen or First Evers. But look, kids, autogram was a problem. Detroit giving up 48 points. No team has ever allowed 45 or more points in a game at home and won the Super Bowl. That really mean anything? Nope, not really. It's just a fact. But the defensive injuries mean something for Detroit. This is getting outrageous. If you look at Detroit's TE2 deep from week one, 11 of the 22 guys. Now with the injuries we had yesterday, 11 of the 22 on the two deep on the defensive side of the football are out. I don't know if they're all out forever. I don't think so. But McNeil going down yesterday. So now if you look at their front four, three of those four from week one are out. They lost two more guys in the secondary. They're so good on offense that the Lions, you could probably piece together an average defense and still win a Super Bowl. So I'm not looking at yesterday's game in that factoid of super bowl teams never doing what they did yesterday. But I. I don't know. I don't know how long they can sustain this with this level of injuries. Like, on Sundays, I'll go through the inactives and you just try to see like, oh, okay, this guy's out. Because I think all of us could do a better job of that, but just kind of gets lost in it where you're like, what's wrong with this secondary today? And be like, oh, they're actually missing three of their top six defensive backs. Okay, When Jamal Adams was elevated from the practice squad and activated for that game yesterday, that's a sign that things are getting pretty thin on that side of the football. But I also think the important point of this is not just the results that we saw yesterday, how much that bleeds into Dan Campbell's approach in a football game. So we have decisions to look at the last two weeks with the Lions and Dan Campbell. We know that 31, 31, 4th and 1, 43 seconds left last week against Green Bay at their 21 yard line. Kick the field goal. Then you're kicking off like, what's really going to happen? Like, do you realize what you're risking at 4th and 1? And Campbell, we already know, is super aggressive. Now he wants to run off the clock and he wants the win, right? Well, yesterday, down 38, 28. Excuse me, 12 minutes left. He goes for the onside kick, onside kick conversion, where I say recovery rate would be the better way to say it. Is it 7%? Like, it's almost no chance of you getting it back. And I saw a lot of criticism for it. I Don't love it, but I understand it. He thinks his defense has no chance right now with all of these injuries. There's something that happened. It reminded just kind of whether it was the field goal decision or the non field goal decision and then the game winning field goal decision from the Green Bay game or the onside kick yesterday, it reminded me a bit of this Pats colts game from 15 years ago, week 10, 2009. Do you remember Pats at the Colts? Pats are up 34, 28. They're facing a fourth and two from their own 28 yard line. 208 left on the clock. And Belichick ran the offense back out there. That was 15 years ago when it wasn't cool. Brady passes to Falk, they try to get to fourth and two. It's a one yard gain. They turn the ball over on downs. Colts take over the pass. 29. Four plays later, Manning to Reggie Wayne. 35, 34 win. And I hated it when it happened. My thought being, because I was on the radio the next day, Van Pelt and I were going back and forth on it and I was like, you know what? They kick the ball off, they have to. They have to field the punt, they have to. There's going to be more plays, so perhaps more chances for something wrong to happen. If you're giving them a 29 yard field with Manning, like you're losing in game there. The point is that Belichick was so down on his defense at that point of the game that he didn't think it even mattered. So the only way of winning that game was converting that fourth and two. And you figure with Brady, like my chances are better than most teams. So it's like 15 years later. I feel like I understand that decision. Even if like at the time we talked it out, we led the show with it because it was like this really big deal the next day. Like, what's he doing? Why would he ever do that? It was because in that game, in that moment, he knew this is probably still my best chances to convert this and reset the downs, even if it's going to give them an incredibly easy field. But he's feeling like they're probably going to score anyway, so it doesn't really matter. I think that's what Campbell is facing with some of these decisions, with all of the injuries. So a head coach in Campbell, who's probably the most aggressive coach in the NFL, he might even crank it up to another level. The I touched it award goes to Aaron Rodgers. I touched it I touched the ball.
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Burke Breer
Before it went out, Coach.
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Ryan Resilio
You don't see this a lot. So yesterday in the Jets Jags game, Rogers is scrambling left. It looked like he may have been hit late, but he wasn't on the replay. He was out of bounds. A defensive player from the Jags makes contact with him, but essentially like wiping dust off the back of his name plate. And then Rogers goes down. And because the rule is when you're on the sideline of your player going down, you have to all lose your shit collectively. Like it's the worst thing that's ever happened. So you can just beg for the flag. I mean, look, everybody does. It annoys the shit out of me. I think the late hit stuff, I understand why it's been implemented because of all these different things where they want player safety. But sometimes, I mean, it's just called in a way where you're like, it's completely unfair. Like we've talked about this before with quarterbacks, like trying to get that extra yard or two and then the defensive player gives up. It's like, if you do that again, I should just blast you and take the flag. This doesn't happen very often though. Rogers goes down. Jeff Ulbricht, the head coach of the jets, who by the way wanted to make sure he left time on the clock, I guess when they scored the game winning touchdown for the Jags because they wanted Mac Jones to throw another pick and he did. In fairness though, to Mack, if you look at the overall, if you look at the all 22 on this one, who's all 22 in it? Parker Washington, number 11, the receiver for the Jags actually stops running. And that's why Matt gives you the despondent boy model look. Although we had another look when Spencer Rattler couldn't convert the two point conversion in that, hey, this is a game. Game of the week with Washington, New Orleans for Rattler. He gave a little Netflix special look at the receiver that wasn't able to pull that one in. But all right, so back to this one. Rodgers turns to Ulbrich as Ulbrich is screaming the officials for the late flag, the late hit flag. And Rogers turns to him, puts his hand up like I touched it, coach. It was off me. And then Rogers again drove for the game winning touchdown where the jets for whatever reason decided to not run. Bunch clock off there. Let's go to Pittsburgh at Philadelphia. Graphics. Guy's on fire this week. I monitor graphics. I'm like a Brian Curtis NFL graphic guy. So they throw up the steak and cheese from Philly against the Pittsburgh sandwich that we know is the Permanente Brothers, where it's the bread with the beef thing and then coleslaw and French fries. Second Van Pelt reference of the pod today. Apparently, he went and asked them to not put the coleslaw on, and it blew their fucking minds. They were just like, but that's. That's how we make the sandwich. These are the things we have a sandwich. This is how we make it. These are the things that are on it. It was like, yeah, I don't want that. He might be banned anyway. 10 straight wins for the Eagles franchise record. Hertz comes out dealing 12 of 13 in the first half, everyone looked open. I don't know how to explain this other than just the simplicity of just everyone looked open. And when they caught the ball, they were open. So they were open on the throw. So they dialed up some really. They were just really good at just working Pittsburgh's defensive backs or just putting stuff in play. I don't know if they'd had it really charted out or everything, but every time, hurts delivered ball, I'm like, that guy's wide open, and then where's the guy to tackle? Where are all the guys to tackle him? So you don't see that very often with the Pittsburgh defense, But this is the week after A.J. brown, after a win, was asked about what he thought the problem could be, and he was essentially, like, passing. So that made a ton of headlines in Philadelphia. As an aside, let's talk about the workplace in general. Like, we lose our minds when athletes will say something that's even remotely revealing, because they're all. Coach Jeff. Because you're not really supposed to do it. And A.J. brown probably shouldn't have done it, because then it leads to all this bullshit, and they have to work through it, and I guess it doesn't really matter. And I think Philly kind of thrives in this chaos stuff, to be honest with you. Even had the sideline thing with Sirianni, the defensive line coach, where you're like, this is happening in the middle of, like, you beating Pittsburgh. What a weird team. Anyway, they're really good. But with the A.J. brown quote, because you were like, yeah. I think there's some times that it can feel like Hertz is limited in games with where he'll get the ball out or where he'll want to go. But this team is so good on offense, they can do anything. And we'll get to that as they close this one out against Pittsburgh. But maybe we should be more fair when athletes do reveal a little bit of how they feel about what's going on at work. Because can you imagine, can you imagine if you worked at a company of like 50 people and then all 50 people were interviewed all the time, like, hey, how'd today go? You know what? You know, this guy I'm reporting to is just. He's. He doesn't see it, man. I don't even know why this guy has this job. The time has passed him by. His ideas are old, his jokes are terrible. He has awful coffee breath. Like, it just. It sets a bad tone to start today, Our first, our 9am it can ruin the day. It can derail us. We just need to be better. We need more efficient. The guy needs the breath, man. So, I mean, I always joke about baseball. Like, how could you possibly interview baseball players 162 times? Hey, you know, one for 12, runners, scoring position. You know, what does that say about this lineup? Have you watched a baseball game before? Like, it happens. It happens sometimes. But we have to answer all those questions. So Maybe with the A.J. brown thing, if you feel like a person has enough equity within that locker room, they should be allowed to do it and not turn into this nightmare for a week. But it doesn't even matter with this team. So what? Look, Pittsburgh, of course, because it's the NFL. They get back into this one, they're down 2013, Najee Harris fumbles. I think this is the first time all season Philadelphia drives for the touchdown. Pittsburgh's down the two scores. They're facing a fourth and seven into Philly territory, and they punt it. It's 10:40 left. So that one, I can. I can understand Tomlin and want to do it, but then Philadelphia just absolutely empties the toolbox. They start at their own three. They want run 21 plays and the final 10, 29 off the clock. They did everything. It was a TED Talk of a football drive. Like they just covered it all. Concerns about Pittsburgh? Yeah, I'm unchanged on this. I don't think Pittsburgh can win the afc. I realize no Pickens again for the second straight week. That changes who they are. The deep ball threat doesn't feel like it's even a possibility because at least with Russell Wilson, he'll look that way a couple times. Like if he thinks he can beat the safety on the throw and it's one on one with Pickens, I love that he takes those chances. So look, they have Baltimore. They're at Baltimore, at KC And Cincinnati to close. I Still like Baltimore more. I know that I'll get some mentions from Steelers fans, like, at Steve's. At your mom's. Steve's at your mom's is like, dude, we beat Baltimore already. Russello. You don't think they can win a shootout? They want to shoot out with Cincinnati 27 last week against the Browns without Pickens. Look, I know Steve's at your mom's. It's just how I feel. Stats. Let's go. Wargone. Stats to impress people. Mike McDaniel. After Miami's loss to Houston yesterday, his record against teams over.500 is 3 in 15. I went to Houston, Miami going, is there something from this game? Can I learn anything from this game? Will I. Will I change my mind about what's possible with either of these teams? Because on the Houston side, it feels like they've been off the radar quite a bit, maybe since the Bills week or win in week five or when they blew the game to Detroit. But at least in that game, I kind of liked him. Like, hey, they're hanging with Detroit and then Detroit comes back. So they just feel like they're off the radar in comparison to where they were last year. A lot of the C.J. stroud numbers are the same, except for the 23. 5 touchdown interception split that Stroud had. He's got the nine picks this year. I don't know that that's the end of the world. The opposing yards per play, they're actually third defensively in the NFL. They were 13th last year. The scoring D is about the same. So overall yardage is down. There was a turnover alert with them last year where they were plus 10 in the turnover margin, which is pretty good in the NFL. That was like fourth, tied for fourth. Well, this year they're. They're tied for third. So it's. It's not. They just. It could be as simple as it was new. And it's a rookie quarterback and look how clean he's been all year long. And D'Amico's there. And maybe it's not the name brands defensively, but they. They can hate. But nobody's really, like, picking him to win the afc. But what an incredible story when you get the QB and you get the coach, right? Like, I remember those segments happening all the time. They might be the same team and none of it really matters. The problem is, is for Miami, they're kind of the same team, but we talk about it in a different way. And I'll get to that because, like, look, this is just a Bad tour game. He was terrible. He had gone over a month without a pick. 184 pass attempts. All three picks. The Rosillo interception point chart. One, not your fault, Matt Damon. Three, it's entirely on you. Those are all three pointers. They're just brutal. So remember last year with Miami, even when it was good and they're putting up all these points. We're still wondering, we're questioning it. Some pressure stuff. Felt like if you got two off schedule, it was a completely different set of results. Now we're, I think, collectively over it. We're not even. We're not even talking about it anymore because they don't be good teams. And, you know, even though he had come back, and I'm thrilled that he came back, he was healthy, up some good numbers. The packers game was ugly, but this game was ugly yesterday. Final award, the desean Jackson award. He continues to be perhaps the most influential player of his generation. We had two desean Jacksons yesterday. Jonathan Taylor for the Colts, big game against the Broncos. Just drops it at the goal line. First one, I didn't. I thought he was going to maybe break the plane on that one. He said, quote, it'll never happen again. Maybe with you it'll never happen again, but it's going to happen again in the league. And then an incredible one from Jordan. Battle of Cincinnati. Fumble recovery. Runs it in for the touchdown. Except he dropped the ball. And the funny thing with him is he knew. Taylor celebrated it. Did a dance battle. Like, knew, oh, I think I screwed this up. And he, like, went to chase after the football after it was already 10 yards past the end zone. Was, like, by the wall, picking it back up, Being like, hope no one saw that. We saw it. So we got two of those yesterday. Closing thought a historic run may be over. We only have three weeks left. I have not seen anyone, and I don't mean, like, anyone, I mean anyone in the media, whether I like them or think they're an absolute hack. I have not seen anyone suggest I'm building here. Like, usually you see a little Nathan Peterman. You see Tim Boyle getting some reps yesterday. Usually there's somebody still doing. And Kaepernick can't get a job. He said in August he was still open to playing for a team. It's been seven years, but I am afraid it may be over because I love. I love to update that every year. It was like, we got somebody week. Week eight. Like, are you serious? You're serious with the Tommy DeVito thing? When Kaepernick's at home three weeks to keep the streak alive and now it's time for today's winning bundle segment presented by State Farm. There's something to be said about a strong coach player relationship when when that bond is solid, you can see the magic unfold. Players have the confidence to take risks and show off their skills knowing their coach is in their corner. A few standout winning bundles definitely come to mind. I guess Belichick Brady can't use that one anymore. Although we do need to update the legacy rankings. Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes. 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And we're going to cover a bunch of different stuff here. I do want to start with Josh Allen, which is where I started this podcast. I know you don't have an MVP vote, but I was pretty hunkered down into the Lamar camp for a long time because of what the rest of the team hasn't done around him. But as each week continues here with Allen, it's going to be pretty tough to hold this guy off from winning his first mvp. If you had a vote, which way would you go?
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Burke Breer
It'd be Allen. I mean, I think like Lamar be in the mix, Saquon would be in the mix because I do think Saquon kind of pulled the Eagles out of the fire, you know, when things didn't look great at the beginning of the year. So Saquon would probably be number three for me. I think Josh and Lamar have similar cases in that a lot of those rosters turned over this off season and it wasn't just an offense. You know, like The Ravens lost 60% of their offensive line, which is a big fricking deal. You know, like you lose that much of your offensive line and you're breaking in young guys all over the place up there. And then, you know, the transition with Derrick Henry coming aboard. And then the defense loses Mike McDonald, who's one of the best defensive coordinators in the league, and they lose Patrick Queen. And the same goes for Josh Allen in Buffalo. He loses his center, which is a big deal for a quarterback, and Mitch Boris, Stephon Diggs is gone. And then the defense is almost completely turned over, you know, and you look at the guys who are gone, the leadership is gone with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer and Trudeau White, you know, all out the door.
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Ryan Resilio
It's.
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Burke Breer
I think both of them have sort of had to step forward. And it's like, this is what you need when your quarterback's making 50 or 60 million dollars a year, is like, a guy who can make up for it when you have to let people go. And both those guys have proved it. I, I, I just, the eye test for me with Josh is not even numbers. It's just. I don't know, Ryan. Like, I, I can't remember a quarterback looking this way. You know, I know that sounds like a little, like, abstract and stupid, but just the way he's playing the position now, the way he's toggling between, like, taking what the defense gives him and then, you know, the Superman plays, it's. He's playing at a ridiculously high level right now. And, you know, there were a couple of those. The throw early in the game to Ty Johnson yesterday, the scramble play downfield to Keon Coleman. It's like he's got a few of those every week where it's just like, I don't know if there are five guys on the planet that could make that play. And he's doing it multiple times every game.
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Ryan Resilio
It's.
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Burke Breer
He's my mvp, and I think he will wind up winning it based on everything that Buffalo's had to weather, you know, with the, with the attrition from the roster and everything else, and how he's had to step up and be an even bigger part of the team.
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Ryan Resilio
Nothing to add to that. Completely agree. Every, every game you feel like he's doing something that it just seems really hard to do in football where everyone has to be kind of connected, and then he can just have this moment where it's like that entire thing happened only because of him. Not to say that there aren't other quarterbacks that do it. You know, like, there's probably Mahomes fans listening, going, are you guys unaware of the dude in Kansas City? It's like, I think we all understand what kind of level Mahomes is at. Who I have some thoughts on here with that injury here yesterday, but before we pivot off of that game with Buffalo in Detroit, the Detroit injury thing is. It's becoming like, I mean, there was no version of that game where I was like, hey, you know what? I can't take Detroit seriously. So I'm not saying that. But there, there's almost like, for myself, a recalibration of, like, what is actually possible for a team that is that decimated on that side of the Football.
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Burke Breer
Yeah. And, like, losing Lee McNeil is a huge deal. He's such a big part of replacing Aiden Hutchinson's production. I know they don't play the same position, but just as disruptive as he's been and what he does inside for them and, you know, I think it's like, what, like 13 guys on IR on the defensive side of the ball alone, and now they'll have a couple more with William McNeil and Carlton Davis going there. They lose David Montgomery on offense, you know, like, what does that mean for the way they use Jameer Gibbs? You know, it's. It's interesting because, like, Jared Goff has sort of had to be the bus driver, and I think he's done a great job. You know, I think, you know, he deserves, like, all pro consideration for how well he's played and the level he's been at. And now it feels like it's almost going to swing back around where the Lions are going to need him to carry the team and certain points, you know, over the next six or seven weeks if they're to get to the Super Bowl. Now, they're going to get healthier in some spots. All their linebackers, with the exception of Malcolm Rodriguez, is going to come back. Aiden Hutchinson, there's hope that he gets back in the playoffs, you know, and then they need, like, some of the young guys to really, really break through, like Terry and Arnold, Jameson Williams, like, some of the guys who are high drafts, who've been really good, but maybe not superstars yet. Like, they need some of those guys to break through. It's just. It feels like the margins now are razor thin for the Lions, where if they lose a couple more guys, like, it could look a lot different than it has.
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Ryan Resilio
I'm not surprised Mahomes got hurt, because I feel like it's been multiple weeks now with him, where you're like. And then he gets up and you're like, okay. And he's been taken way more hits this year going into this week. I think he was third in hits behind Burn Burrow. And I think Stafford, when Stafford's O line was a mess earlier in the year. So, look, we know what kind of game he plays. And then obviously, the scrambles late are going to open himself up to. Even though it seems like nobody gets a clean shot at him when he's running for the first down towards the sideline, you just knew it was starting to kind of take its toll. Or he was just opening himself up to a spot where it's like, is he going to get through this game again. I even thought there was a couple throws where I felt like, man, he really. There was a throw to Hopkins. It wasn't the incompletion that was challenged. There was a throw on the right side where I felt like he's really loading up on that throw for somebody with all that arm talent. Like, is there some lingering stuff with him? So look, he leaves the game, we see him in the card after the fact. We'll see where we're at by the time this is posted. Maybe we'll have an update. But it also leads to something else that you and others who cover this league were telling us in August. And now here we are where the Chiefs are going to have 10 days to play three games with this extra Christmas deal here. So give us your Mahomes thoughts. And just kind of the overriding thing of like, all right, cool, there's more football, but that's a big ask for these teams that are trying to close with seating on the line.
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Burke Breer
Well, so like, first of all, like, if you don't mind, Ryan, like, I'd hit the long term concern here with Mahomes because I know there are people in that organization that are worried about the accumulation of lower leg injuries. And it seems like oftentimes you see him so often where he's got guys wrapped around his ankles basically, and he's twisting and contorting himself to make throws and he's tough as nails. No one would ever doubt what he brings to the table from that standpoint, how badly he wants to play, the things he does in order to get himself in a position to play. But those things can be cumulative. And so I sort of, I wonder if long term there are some things they got to coach him, coach into him. And it reminds me of Todd Haley getting with Ben Roethlisberger in 2012, I believe it was, and, or maybe it was 13 right in there somewhere in that period. And Roethlisberger was almost a decade into the league and he'd done a lot of the same stuff. Now, I'm not saying he's Mahomes, but he had done a lot of the same stuff Mahomes had stylistically in, you know, not being a runner but running to throw and, you know, being this big body who could withstand the hits and, you know, Todd Haley coached into him. We want you to get rid of the ball faster. You're not going to hold up if you keep playing this way. And we're going to put these great receivers around you and you're going to have Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders and Mike Wallace unload the ball, let them make the plays. And I do wonder if that sort of, you know, like, reckoning is coming with, with momes and it won't be this year but in the next couple of years where it's like, look, dude, like you're, I think he's 29 now. Is he 29 or he's going to be 29 next year? Like, I, I, I don't, I'll look.
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Ryan Resilio
It up for you. Just keep going.
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Burke Breer
Yeah, so he's approaching 30, bottom line, right? Like, and I believe he's 29 now that I'm doing my head. I think he was born in 95, so he's a pro 30 and great job. You know, we've seen, we've seen, we've seen this with, with, with guys who've gotten beaten up at that position. And so like, I do think that that's part of the equation now with Mahomes is that he's dealt with a lot of this stuff and fought through it and that's to his credit. But like there I think will be a time where he's going to have to learn to, to dial it back and play a little bit more judiciously so that, that I think like a long term will be a part of the equation for him. I think right now, like they, if I'm the Chiefs, I'm looking at this and I say, you know what, we got a two game lead and regardless, we're almost certainly going to be one of the top two seeds. If we win one of our last three, we're going to be one of the top two seeds. So, you know, at worst we're the top seed playing on wild card weekend. And the only road game we would have to play would be in Buffalo in the AFC Championship where we won last year. It's more important to us right now that we have our quarterback at full speed, as close to full speed as we possibly can have him. And so like I look at the schedule and I'm gaming it out and I see, you know, you've got, you know, obviously a game, you know, with a game with the, with the Texans on Saturday and then the Steelers on Christmas. I'm thinking about sitting him for the Texans game. So I give him 10 days of Runway into that, which then gives him 11 days of Runway if I have to use him in week 18. And look, the NFL made its bet on this. You know what I mean? Like, the NFL put The teams in these positions where they have to make decisions like this. And I do think, you know, if it's up to Mahomes and it's close and look, we may, we may get to like 4:00 today and maybe it's a much more serious high ankle sprain. He just can't go for the next month because these things can be that serious. Um, but if there's like a question or it's borderline, then I'm saying sit him. And I like, I just, I know, you know, the way that the players talk about this particular injury, how playing on it can make it worse, how it can linger, you know, it's sort of one of those as like a, like a hamstring. It doesn't go away unless you give it a lot of rest. And so, you know, if I'm the Chiefs right now, I'm maximizing the amount of risk I'm getting Patrick Mahomes before the playoffs. And I know he's going to hate it, but like, I think this is a decision maybe you have to make for him to give yourself the best chance in January and hope, and you.
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Ryan Resilio
Hope February and the fact they're still, despite the head to head, two losses up on the Bills in the afc, I mean, they can, they can rest him, cost themselves a game and still be in a really good spot here. You know, then the Pittsburgh game becomes something entirely different because they're going to still have something to play for. But I don't know that you would want to go. What's. Look, it all depends on what we learn the rest of the week and all this kind of stuff.
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Burke Breer
But yeah, the other thing I would throw on top of this is just kind of like, I wish they would take what the players say into account a little bit more with this stuff. It does matter that it's this late in the season. You know, like doing this now is not the same as doing it in October. And making them go through this now is not the same as making them go through it in October. And I think there's another element to it too, which is like. So I was on the field before the Packers Lions game. We had that game. It was Thursday night game, and both those teams had played on Thanksgiving and then they played the Sunday before. So it was three and 11 days. So I was talking to a few of the coaches and a couple of the players and I was mentioning how like, you know, it's good even though it's a Thursday game, you get a full week's rest. And a few of the guys said to me, it's like, yeah, but like, you know, you come off of the first Thursday game and now you're playing another one. It's like your body still hasn't had a chance to catch up. So really like they don't feel like they're going to be whole until they get that mini by and they go to the following Sunday. So like, I just think it's like to me, at least, Ryan, like you want to have, like the league should want to have its best players in the best spot going into the playoffs in, in position to play their very best. And like I just, I look at this stretch of three games in 10 days for four teams that are almost certainly going to be in the playoffs and it's just like, is the juice worth the squeeze here? Like where you could be jeopardizing some guys that are, that are marquee players performance going into, going into the most important month of the year. Right.
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Ryan Resilio
But the owners would like to add another game if they.
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Burke Breer
Oh no, they would. I mean like, based on what they got for. Yeah, I mean based on what they got for, for the, for, for, for the Christmas games. For Netflix. I. From Netflix. You know, I mean, I know for a fact this is all going to fall in deaf ears.
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Ryan Resilio
Yeah, right. But I. Look, all you need is a, is a slate. Like the 1 o'clock slate yesterday to. Because we saw a bunch of guys in there, whether it was quarterbacks being benched or guys getting hurt. Like there was a. There's a lot of backups getting some reps yesterday. And that's whenever anybody, you know, because I think like, there's a bigger thing that I would talk about and there's probably like a bigger segment that I have here in my head, but I'll just share it with you now as it pertains to the NFL part of it. But think of all the changes the NFL has made in a very short amount of time and how often that was met with just like immediate criticism. And the biggest thing was like, oh, well, these guys aren't even allowed to tackle anymore. Might as well put flags on them. Like, this isn't the football I grew up with. It's like, well, it also shows that none of you are turning it off. None of you are turning it off.
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Burke Breer
Yeah.
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Ryan Resilio
So whatever you were pissed about and like the late hits, the people who.
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Burke Breer
Are engaged enough to complain are the last people who are turning it off.
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Ryan Resilio
Right. Right. Like, there's nothing that would back up that any of the changes. And I don't blame the NFL for being towards the absurd on how some of the flags are thrown. Like, I hate the sideline stuff that happens, but I understand it. The quarterback stuff. Like there's usually one or two a week where everybody loses their mind. Be like, I can't believe that's a flag. Like, that's ridiculous. It's like, yeah, they just don't want defensive players. They want, actually, excuse me, they want defensive players scared to death to even hit the guy. And guess what? The game keeps on rolling. And as long as they score points, which is happening. I know there was a dip down at the beginning of this year, but I would say like a five year snapshot of it. Like, people based on the ratings seem to love the points. They don't care about the evolution of the lack of physicality or a removal of certain elements of physicality or the, you know, defenseless receiver stuff that everybody was mad about. It's like, hey, what's a safety supposed to do? I don't know. Well, yeah, there's a game on tonight at 8:30 and you're going to watch that one too. So like all of the consternation around it, it hasn't, it hasn't mattered.
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Burke Breer
Yeah. And I mean the other thing is these guys are bigger and faster and stronger than they were 20 or 30 years ago. And the hits are more violent, you know, like naturally because of the force that they're happening with. And it's just you have to, to some degree you have to protect your stars. And like I, I understand the whole, you know, like, idea of what football was and there's some of those things that I actually subscribe to know. Like I, I do think they, they should probably hit more in training camp. I think there's, there's evidence out there. I talked to Sean Payton about this over the summer. Like how there's, there's a lot of evidence out there that callusing your team makes you healthier in November and December. And that's something they really have to look at.
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Ryan Resilio
I completely agree with that. And when John Harbaugh said that years ago, there were so many people in NFL media that just looked at him as this caveman. And you're thinking, how could you not understand that your body actually needs to be abused a bit to be able to handle abuse. That's pretty standard for anybody that's ever done anything. And yet it was just a ton of people being like, oh, this idiot. And you're just like, no. So that part of it I completely agree with. But again, the players association, when they go to the table with this stuff, they give up money they feel from the owners, right? And it's like, can we hit less? They're like, yeah, we don't give a. Yeah. They never wear any pads.
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Burke Breer
Like, it's like, can we have three weeks off in the spring? You mean I get to turn the lights off for three weeks? Where do I sign? Cool.
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Ryan Resilio
We want an extra game. All right. Can we not have weed testing? Sure. We want another game. All right. Even, you know, like, it's. Look, that's. That's. That's its own conversation of what happens when they sit down at the table and try to redo the CBA over time. I have a money question for you because it's starting to be talked about a little bit. With the Niners finishing out, what's a disappointing season here? Purdy's under contract for 25 at, like a nothing number. Right. And the Niners have all sorts of kind of cap issues they're looking at with committed contracts. Before we talk draft class and all these different things that you point out this morning on SI.com, what do you think happens here with Purdy?
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Burke Breer
So, like, I can tell you without reservation, Brock is their guy, and they think he's better than he gets credit for.
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Ryan Resilio
Kyle loves him.
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Burke Breer
Now, there's not. I mean, you wouldn't be a Kyle Shanahan quarterback if you didn't do some things that infuriated Kyle Shanahan. So I think that does exist with him to some degree. But, you know, Kyle will tell you, like, if you sit down and watch the tape, like, this guy plays like a top of the league quarterback. So, like, he is, like, they view him as their guy. So I think it's when, not if they do a deal with him. But I think the when is massively complicated by this just bottleneck of contracts that they have that they're going to have to clean up this off season. And so, you know, I think what history tells me is that they will try to get out in front of it right after the season. That's what they did with Jimmy Garoppolo. If you go back and you look, they signed Jimmy Garoppolo to an extens. I think it was like the end of January, you know, in 2018, right after he had just gotten done playing that first half season after the trade. So, like, I think having that sort of certainty would appeal to them. And. Okay, like, now we know with the rest of our players, what we're working around. So that's one piece of history that can inform you. I think they will make an effort to try to get out in front of it quickly. I also think at that point they'd probably be looking for a discount to do it. And if they're looking for a discount to do it, then how much pushback do they get from Purdy's side? Are they trying to play on the insecurity of a guy who was the last pick in the draft? And are they. Is Purdy sensitive to that? There's all kinds of dynamics that can play into that, you know, and then there's the history they have. The last three years, they've had pretty contentious contract negotiations. Last year it was Ayuk. The year before that it was Bosa. The year before that it was Debo. So they've had to ride these things out in the past. So I think they have every intention of getting it done. The question to me is like, at what price and when? And I don't think that they would be bothered by the idea of going into 2025 with Brock playing on his playing out the final year of his contract and then having to franchise him in 2026. I don't think that's their preference, but I don't think it would. I don't think it would bother them that much to have to do that because of all the other business that they have to do with all the guys that are. That are left on the roster now and then. You know, I think the other thing that's sort of a twist to all of this is that there could be two guys that have a connection to that program as veterans that could be available this off season in Sam Darnold and maybe Kirk Cousins, you know, so if those two guys wound up being available, do you use those guys as leverage to try to get your price with Purdie? That. That's sort of like, I think, a fascinating element that could play out in the first couple of months of the negotiation.
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Ryan Resilio
Yeah. Okay. All right. I love this stuff and it's a good transition because I was going to ask you about Darnold's future here in a second, but I think I would just like to add that the Garoppolo contract was terrible. They made him the highest paid player in NFL history. He had seven starts under his belt. And then I remember, I think it was the Niners did a thing with Kevin Clark when he was still at the ringer where they talked about the Garoppolo contract. And it was so front loaded. And it was almost like, yeah, but look, we paid him so much money now, then we don't have to pay him as much later. And you went, that's the defense of this contract. But it was also another lesson in like the way the quarterback contracts work is. It's not so much who you are, it's when you're signing him in comparison to whatever the previous quarterback class got when they redid their deal. So that leads us to the Purdy thing where it seems like they'll probably take care of their guys. Purdy has far more of a track record than Garoppolo did when they did the deal. You know, you could say maybe we just get away with this for another year. But that's not really how teams do deals with quarterbacks they feel is their guy. Usually they'll wipe out that cheap year because the agents like, look, we can't have our guy playing on minimum wage when he's the face of the franchise here.
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Burke Breer
It also helps you manage it because you're folding that year in, which brings the average per year down, right? Like, because you're folding in that year at whatever a couple of million bucks. And now so like you, you add the new money average to the end of it, but the, that really cheap year on the front end, you're folding that in. So it brings the total average down a little bit, you know, and I.
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Ryan Resilio
Think sometimes, but, but that, that sometimes that number has been wiped out though. Like they've, they didn't, they do that with Russell Wilson.
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Burke Breer
It doesn't get wiped out. No, it gets, it always gets folded in. So like the number, the total number you hear is the new money. So the new money is just basically the, you know, the big number. And then like it's not like they have to play out that final year of their contract or the final two years of their contract, but that's accounted for and folded into the bigger number. So the earlier you do it, the cheaper. If you add like two cheap years now, they can't do that with Purdy because of the rules, but that brings the total number down. I also think like, what's interesting about this one too is like it's not just, you know, Patrick Mahomes making that much money. Dak Prescott's at 60, Tua's in the 50s, Jared Goff's in the 50s, Trevor Lawrence is in the 50s. So I, I think the room for the Niners to say, we got to take you under 50, like I don't know if they have as much room to say that anymore based on how you would stack Purdy up against a Trevor Lawrence or a Tua Tunga Valoa or a Jared Goff.
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Ryan Resilio
So the hard part for this is like, the Niners, I don't know how they would negotiate it. They couldn't go like, hey, look, no one else is going to want Purdy as much as we want Purdy. So. But again, you're not really even going off of other comps, as we've just covered here a million times. It's just, new guy is up. New guy makes this much more than everybody else. So that leads us to the Darnold thing. I mean, that would. That would be. I guess you could negotiate it that way. It just doesn't seem like anybody ever does that with their quarterbacks. But what are the Vikings going to do? Because I think on one hand, clearly, like, whenever I read somebody's like, the Vikings still really like J.J. mcCarthy. We're like, well, no kidding. They took him 12th. So obviously, if all the same people are there, they really, really like them. But Darnold has answered questions about, hey, can he? What do they like when he has to come back in a game? I mean, the numbers. This guy's had an incredible year. And I think there'd be part of me, even if I was the person that was in the war room just campaigning for JJ after all the work. It's one thing to be excited about what somebody could be versus having a year like this with Darnold. We'll see what happens to play playoffs or whatever, but, like, somebody that's really doing it.
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Burke Breer
So there's a historical comparison here that I think makes some sense is the Chargers in 2005. If you remember, they drafted Philip Rivers fourth overall, and the idea was they're out on Breeze. Then Bree goes and kicks ass, and I think they went 12 and 4 in 2004, and they brought Breeze back on the franchise tag in 2005. Breeze gets hurt. They transitioned to rivers in 2006. Maybe that's the answer. The franchise tag is going to be more than $40 million this year at quarterback. So it's not like that lump sum is cheap or easy to work around. It is what it is, you know, but look like having talked to people there, like, they laugh at people on the outside who think the bottom's going to suddenly fall out or the other shoe is going to drop on Sam Darnold. I mean, they'll tell you he's a really good player. His quarterback rating has been over 111 times this year. You know, he has navigated through some rough patches, he's performed in the clutch. He's done everything you wanted him to do, and it's because he's gone to a place where the coach is tailoring the system to him. He's not. I think Adam Gase and Dal Loggins and those guys with the jets wanted him to be Peyton Manning. He was never that, like, he was very raw coming out of USC and you know, like the Vikings have let him go out and be a playmaker and they've, you know, obviously put a good crew around him. They've navigated and dealt with a lot of injuries at left tackle. I think they've had four different left tackles. You know, Darasaw was one of the best in the league. He went down, you know, he's checked every box. And if you didn't have J.J. mcCarthy, this would be a no brainer. You re sign him. You know this. If, if they were in the situation Tampa was in last year with Baker, it'll be like, yeah, like, okay, like you can go to the market and see your value, but come back to us and we'll sign you at whatever the price is. You know, I think in this case because they really like JJ but because JJ lost all of that development time, he lost the time from August to January and he's been great. They love him. But he lost all of that time to develop and they may not get to get a chance to see him physically like where he's going to be before Darnold becomes a free agent and you've got this team that's ready to compete for a championship right now. Do you owe it to the other players? I don't know. Ryan, what do you think? Do you owe it to the other players on your team to give them the best shot at quarterback, which might be having both guys on the roster going into training camp?
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Ryan Resilio
Well, I mean, that's a different question than maybe the answer that I'm giving you. Because with the way it's flexible and by the way, I've already looked at it like, with the number of like the six or seven teams that probably desperately want to make a change of that position, adding to this draft class, looking at who's available out there, like, there's not going to be enough chairs out there for the teams that want to come in. I'm like, they'll come in with somebody new, but I don't think seven teams are going to be feel excited whether it's through free agency or this draft class or who their week one starter is in 25. So I'm totally cool with the idea of it. I think that's why I could see Atlanta going. This cousin's thing hasn't been great right now. Let's see how it looks at the end of the year. But with the money they paid him, it's kind of a two year contract. Maybe there's a trade for them where they feel like they're getting the assets back and the money that's out and then they're ready to go with Penx immediately. But JJ and Darnold makes sense to me. I think my overriding point to the veteran thing that you're talking about, I'm always, I don't care if I think I'm the smartest NFL guy going. I'm always going to be scared to death of a guy that actually hasn't done it on a Sunday as opposed to what Darnold's put together this year.
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Burke Breer
Yeah, and I agree with that. The flip side, so like the, the difference in the Penix comparison of course is they've gotten to see Penix, you know, develop all year. So they have probably a clearer picture of where Penix is than the Vikings have right now. McCarthy and like to me, like the flip side of that argument would be if you're Kevin O'Connell, Wes Phillips, Josh McCown, all the guys that are involved with and touch the quarterback there, I think you'd be pretty confident in your ability to make due at that position. Even if JJ's a little flawed in year one? I mean, doesn't the last three years of evidence show us what that group is as a sort of quarterback development machine that they're going to make it work with whoever goes in there? Even after Cousins got hurt last year, some of the things they were able to do at least over short term with, with Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullins and guys like that, like I, if I were them, I would, I would feel pretty confident that if I get a talented kid in there, I'm going to be able to make it work. I think the question is, are you going to be able to make it work at the same level it's working right now with Sam Darnold and if you aren't confident that it'll get quite to that level out of again, service to the rest of the team, service to the, to the veterans on your team, do you owe it to everyone to give them Two bites of the apple at quarterback in franchise Darnold and either make him the starter going into training camp or open it up to a competition. I think it's a really interesting question to ask. Although of course it would be expensive to do that because, I mean, $40 million, I can't do the math in my head, but I think the salary cap will be around 275. It's a healthy percentage of your salary cap to be devoting to a second quarterback.
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Ryan Resilio
Yeah, and there's also, as we're talking this out, I mean, if they just really love JJ and there's a market for Darnold, then you're talking about getting a two, three year window here with a quarterback on a rookie salary scale and you feel like, okay, so, you know, but it's, it's, it is very different in the fact that they haven't even if they loved him that much, to go ahead and draft him, to not be able to see, to get him work out. I guess I just love seeing guys that have done it before. I'll never forget, like, even Mangini when we were talking through all these available guys years and years ago and Mangin was like making the case for Matt Castle and he's like, look, I'm not telling you he's this all world guy, but at least there's a couple seasons in there where you thought to yourself, okay, this guy did it at a decent enough level. You know, games won, through whatever.
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Burke Breer
He was good with the Chiefs too. Like, he had the, he had the, he had the year they won 10 games with the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah.
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Ryan Resilio
I wasn't, I didn't expect to be doing like a Castle revisit because it was.
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Burke Breer
I love Matt. Big shout out to Matt.
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Ryan Resilio
I've never heard anybody have a bad word to say about Matt Castle. He's the best. If he gets a little love today, then, then good for him. But it was, it was the point of the story or the point of the anecdote is more about like these coaches, like they will default to any kind of experience in the face of like, no experience. So not to say that that's exactly what the Vikings will do. Speaking of coaches, so we've got the three openings now. How many more openings do you think we're going to have past Jets, Bears.
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Burke Breer
And Saints, Jacksonville, Dallas? Although, see, like, I'm almost to the point now where, like, if Mike McCarthy had two years left on his contract, I think they might keep him. But like, the fact that his contract is up makes this, like, complicated and that they got to do an entirely new contract with him. And I mean, that team's playing its ass off. They're 6 and 8 now. They're still not eliminated. Believe it or not. They've, they've really responded after that ugly loss on the Monday night to Houston. And they've, their best players are playing well. Like Lamb's playing well, Parsons is playing well. But I think there's probably a change there. So that gets you up to five. But then after that, like Vegas, I think is, I think Vegas is definitely up in the air. Whether or not they bring back Antonio Pierce. New England, I would have said no, absolutely not. A week or two ago. Like, now I'm a little after really. It was last night in that press conference last night that makes me think, like, I don't know, Cleveland, I think is safe.
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Ryan Resilio
Can we just stay on the New England one for a second? What is going on in these Gerard Mayo press conferences? And I think you're pointing in particular where it sounded like as a reporter was asking him about a Drake May keeper on third and one and fourth and one, that Mayo essentially was like you said it, as if he was that disconnected from his, from his health.
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Burke Breer
Yeah, like, it was like, like it was like, I, I, I don't know how you take that any other way, but then you're throwing the offensive coordinator under the bus. And, you know, I don't think it was ever, it's ever been the Craft's intention to even think about walking away from Gerard Mayo, you know, in part because of how much they've invested in the guy and, and, and put faith in the guy. Like, I don't think it was ever their intention to even consider walking away from him after, after a year. But, you know, I said it a couple weeks ago. I'm like barring something cataclysmic and, you know, my point of reference here is like the Joe Judge thing two, three years ago when the Maras had no intention of walking away from Joe Judge after 2021. And then that press conference happens and everything comes unraveled. And so look, I think this puts, this puts Gerard Mayo in an interesting spot where they've got a quarterback that I think could attract a top coach. There is probably only one shot they'd get at bringing Mike Vrabel back. And I think Vrabel is going to be the most sought after candidate out there. So, like, do all these things converge now to make Robert Kraft, who's in his mid-80s, say, you know, What? Love you, Gerrard, but this didn't work out. I still don't think he does it. But I also, like, there's the potential. They get blown out the next three weeks. They play Buffalo twice in the Chargers in the middle of those two. If it looks really ugly down the stretch, you know, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be totally floored if they wound up, if they wound up making a change. And maybe part of it is they back channeled a variable and try to see if he'd be interested before they do anything.
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Ryan Resilio
I would be shocked if the Crass fired Mayo.
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Burke Breer
I would be too. But I mean, I would be too. Barring again this thing completely collapsing, I.
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Ryan Resilio
Would be against almost any coach losing their job after one year. I mean, it would have to be like weird stuff going on for me to be like, okay, I have to. But from just a football standpoint, I just, I don't.
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Burke Breer
It's becoming so common though. That's a thing. I mean, Reich and Hackett and I mean, it's just, it used to be like really rare. Like, whoa, they fired him after a year. You know, it's actually to the point now where, you know, they've actually, the owners has been this internal push to stop doing this because of the amount of dead money there is out there for coaches and how many teams are paying multiple coaches. You know, that was part of like, that, that was part of like what I heard on, on Dallas with, with McCarthy is like that Dallas's unwillingness to extend McCarthy and, and, and, and, and the decision to send him into a contract here, which is really, really rare, was colored by like Jerry being the guy who's like, we're not going to do this anymore. We're not going to just extend guys to extend.
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Ryan Resilio
I have one other coaching thing, but I want to give two teams a little love here that I haven't really talked about here. I mean, I could just do this for hours with you today. Let's, let's let. Maybe I'll try to sneak in like an either or and then one other team. So let's do a little Houston. They're the 4 seed AFC 9 and 5. You run through some of the numbers. There's not a ton that's necessarily different. They feel completely, as I'd said in my open, just off the radar because it isn't the new thing with a quarterback and D'Amico. Do you look at them as anything that's really threatening in the afc?
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Burke Breer
No. And I'm a little surprised That I don't. I thought I would. I thought that they would be, you know, maybe the three seed that could make it to the AFC Championship game. And I don't know that I see them that way anymore. Their offensive line has been pretty disappointing. I don't think CJ has taken the step they expected him to. Obviously, digs getting hurt affects things. And they were without Nico for a while.
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Ryan Resilio
The Nico stretcher is explainable where, you know, because, I mean, Nico was becoming what looked like maybe a top five receiver, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Burke Breer
So, like, I think Nico, like, Nico is obviously like a huge piece of it. I like, they lose digs, but they didn't have digs last year. You know what I mean? Like, and they were without Tank Dell for a while. So it's just. It's like, still, like, why doesn't it look right? And, you know, it does make me wonder, like, okay, is this a critical month for Bobby Slowik as their offensive coordinator? Because they are in such an important time, you know, with their quarterback on a rookie contract and. And the effort to build around them, you know, so I like the. Some of the feedback I've gotten is that it's gotten a little stale offensively there from a scheme standpoint from other coaches. And, you know, now I think it's on Slow and the offensive staff to try to move that forward. Going into the playoffs, I think the defense has mostly been fine. You know, I think that's a really good defense. They've got stars all over the place. Hit a little bump there when Will Anderson got hurt. But the combo of Anderson and Hunter, I think is what they. What they would have expected it to be. Stingley is one of the best corners in football. So I think, like, really, if you're looking at the difference between this year and that last year, it's like they had this offense last year that looked like it was going to become like an intergalactic offense in 2024, and that just hasn't happened.
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Ryan Resilio
Okay. All right, so last thing before I finish up on a coaching point here, look at the seed in the NFC. Detroit, Philly. Detroit's still the 1 seed because Detroit has the best winning percentage in conference games. 8 and 1 versus 7 and 2. And this is where the seeding part of the divisions, funny, because Minnesota and Green Bay are 5 and 6, because Tampa and the Rams are 3 and 4. I think I've probably spent enough time just talking about how impressed I am on the Rams. So if you have anything, let's get there But I just felt like Tampa Bay deserved a couple minutes today putting up 40 points on this Chargers defense. And you could argue the Chargers statistically with the scoring defense was a little schedule based on opponents. But you know, you watch the Ravens game, they're in it. You watch the Chiefs game, clearly they're in that one. You know, it comes down to last second field goal. So we still collectively felt really good about the Chargers. And maybe it's just a one off for this week, but for Tampa to put a 500 yards of offense on that Chargers defense, like, just deserves some kind of mention. So I didn't think I would, I would be sitting here on Monday going, is Tampa actually a little scarier than maybe even the Rams are this resurgence Rams team that we're just so excited about the job McVeigh's done. I mean, we could be happy about both, which would be a concept here. But just give me a little on like Tampa that was, was fluky. They get the playoff win last year. I don't know that any of us. They feel a little Pittsburghy for me in a way, like, hey, awesome story, good for you, but I'm not going to pick you against anybody. And I just thought yesterday was, was really impressive and under the radar with the other headline games.
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Burke Breer
Well, think about, I thought about this last week. Like we've all, we've looked at like New England as a gold standard. Right. Like franchise Tampa has come out of its Tom Brady era much cleaner than the Patriots came out of theirs, right?
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Ryan Resilio
Well, yeah, they had a plan.
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Burke Breer
Yeah. So, like, I think it's impressive the way they've come out of it. I think getting what they've gotten out of Baker is, is really good. They've had to replace offensive coordinators in consecutive years. Going to Canales last year and obviously Liam Cohen this year. And I think weathering the storm of the injuries too. Like now Godwin's not coming back. But they were without Godwin and Evans for about a month there. We see the difference Evans makes now. Who Evans, I think is one of the most underappreciated players of this era. To be a threat now to go over a thousand yards in 11 straight seasons in a year where you're 31 years old and dealing with all kinds of injuries is just incredibly impressive. They've turned the roster over where it's like one of the youngest rosters in the league now, believe it or not. And they've got like this core of players that was part of the championship, you know, like Evans And Tristan Wurfs and Vita Vea and Levante David and Antoine Winfield. They've got a bunch of guys who have rings. So absolutely, like, I think that this is a team that like, again, weathered the storm of injuries in midseason, has come out of it and they're not completely whole again. Like, you know, Godwin's out for the year, but on top of, like, the established pieces they have, they've got a coaching staff that's experienced and battle tested and they've got like this crew of second and third year players. Like, more than half of their roster is made up of homegrown guys in their first three years. And that, like, gives me hope that, all right, you got your core pieces and now the ancillary pieces are going to keep getting better as you go into the playoffs, you know, you're, you're, you're guys like Jaylen McMillan and Bucky Irving and some of the offensive linemen, you know, Graham Barton, like, it's that they, they look like they're set up in a way where it's like, this is a team that's ascending going into the playoffs because again, they've, they've done such an impressive job turning over the roster while holding on to some of those veteran pieces.
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Ryan Resilio
Yeah. And you think about the disaster against Atlanta, prime time, you're like, oh, how did that happen? And then granted, they lost to him twice. You know, the Baltimore game, you know, it's Baltimore, Kansas City, they come back into that one headed over overtime. San Francisco felt like Niners were better for three. You know, it was just like, hey, Tampa's classic NFL. They're just lingering, they're hanging around. And those stretches where they didn't feel like they had any receivers, I think that was the Niners game where I'm like, how the hell are they even doing this today? But they've won four straight.
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Burke Breer
One thing I'd add on the Bucks really quick, too, and like, this is like a, an old school thing, but I think, like, we're in an era where blocking and tackling are at a premium because of the way these guys come up now. I, you know, and I like, that's. I talked to Todd Bowles about this last night. Like, he was like, when we went to our buy, they'd lost four straight coming into going to their buy. He's like, I felt like our fundamentals were slipping. So those two weeks were about blocking and tackling for us. And they've won four in a row since. And I just, I think if you look at the best teams in the league, there are teams that are really good in those areas. It's, it's boring to talk about. No one wants to jump into like a conversation about like drills and all that stuff. But I think it is notable that you've got like an old school parcels, you know, a parcels descendant in Todd Bowles doing things that way and building a program that's sustainable and winning late in the year.
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Ryan Resilio
Last thought, Belichick to North Carolina. I read this quote Mike Sandoz piece, the Athletic Monday Morning, which I enjoy. I reference it quite often. He talked to front office people about this and one executive said, quote, they will, meaning Belichick and his staff, they will be better evaluators than 90% of these major colleges will be. And the first part of me from the Belichick GM years things, why is he just going to be way better at something that he was so bad at for so long? Which again, I still can't believe it ever happened. I've covered it far too often. But then I started thinking about it a little bit more and I was like, you know what, I get the, I get the point. Like when I first read the quote, it was just resistance. Like I just went. And then I thought about it a little bit more and it's like, yeah, but if they're going to have a system and they're going to have to build a roster, they're going to be thinking about this like it would be one of the dumbest things ever for anyone to look at the GM draft track record and then just assume like it's the same thing. It's not the same building, it's not the same business really at all. So 90% may be aggressive, but I just have a hard time believing he's just going to pick a bunch of wrong players when he's building his college program.
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Burke Breer
Right. Like, so I can, I mean I can tell you like they, I think they're going to, they'll go in there and they're going to try to set up an NFL type of operation, which he said. And like they view nil as salary cap, they view transfer portal as free agency. And I think their model is going to be sort of like what Michigan was with Harbaugh at the end where you've got like a bunch of players who are older who maybe aren't first round picks, but you get the guy in year three, year four, year five in the transfer portal who may have like talked to his agent and like his agent like asked around and like, the feedback was, you're a fifth or sixth round pick. Like, all right, I can do better than that. Like, that's the guy I think Belichick is going to get. And with the promise that maybe I can turn you into a second or a third round pick. And I think that there's something really attractive for Belichick to sell there. And I had this in my column this morning, Ryan. Like, I asked Sean McVeigh over the weekend, like, you know, would somebody who's been through Belichick's program be more attractive to you? And he, like, jumped out of his shoes. Absolutely. Absolutely. That kid would, you know, like, 100% that kid would. Because I've. I know he's been well coached. I know he is going to have gone through a program that's going to, you know, simulate, kind of give you an idea of how he would react when he gets to the pros. So.
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Ryan Resilio
Yes.
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Burke Breer
So, you know, like, these guys are going to get developed, you know, I think at a pretty high level, and they're going to have that on their resume going into the pros. That I played for Bill Belichick in college. You know, I think that that's probably the pathway. And then, you know, you have to do, as you and I both know, you have to do enough, like, in getting high school players in and developing those guys in the ground floor and everything else. But, you know, I think that there's a real path there, and I think that's. That's sort of what he saw, you know, is that, like, I don't know that there wasn't an NFL job out there for him this year. I think what was sketchier was the idea that there'd be an NFL job out there with the control that he would want to do it his way. And, you know, I think for him, when he looked at it, it was like the first of all, the hiring cycles don't. Don't match up. You know, one is in December, the other's in January. And he had this burden in the hand with North Carolina giving him the chance to build it his way and set it up his way and hire his people and just go out and coach. And I think that's his primary focus was I need to coach in 2025. So it was either taking the certainty of that or it was waiting a month. And, you know, maybe you get an offer, maybe you don't. And if you do get an offer, too, are those offers going to be working for some team president? You don't respect having some front office forced upon you, inheriting somebody's scouting department. Like, I think that's what he was looking at, you know? So now he gets to go coach and build it his way, and we'll see what happens. And I think we all saw the buyout, so I wouldn't rule out a year or two. In a year or two, if the right situation comes along. You wouldn't think about it.
- [72:22]
Ryan Resilio
You can read the rest of our brewers column on SI.com up every Monday morning. And as always, man, love catching up. Thanks, man.
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Burke Breer
Awesome. Thanks, Ryan.
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Ryan Resilio
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Kyle
Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet.
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Burke Breer
What's up?
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Steve
I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork.
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Kyle
I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.
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Ryan Resilio
Our email address is lifeadvicerrmail.com we got Kyle, we got Steve. How is everyone?
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Kyle
Doing well. Doing well.
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Ryan Resilio
Same soft tones here on a Monday. Yeah. Get a little snow.
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Steve
Little snow here in the northeast. It's nice. Just a little dusting. I'm a big snow guy, so.
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Kyle
Been real itchy lately. I don't know. That's. That's something I've been Googling. It might be called something called winter itch, but we're not really a big winner. Oh, your itch thing. Yeah, I've been just scratching like crazy. I don't know. It's not bedbugs. I've had bedbugs before. I know what that is. So I don't know. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. Maybe just a little more moisturizer in my eczema. I don't think so. I mean, it's. It's red. I scratch it, and then it goes away. That's not like anything that's, you know, sticking around, but it's driving me nuts.
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Ryan Resilio
New. That's new for you.
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Kyle
That's what's new.
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Ryan Resilio
Could be a body chemistry thing, right? Getting older?
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Kyle
God, I hope not.
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Steve
Did you switch your deodorant?
- [74:16]
Kyle
No, I'm a degree guy. Been A degree guy forever.
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Ryan Resilio
By the way, the aluminum free deodorant thing that we never really did, we had a lot of smart people chime in that was like, this is almost all bullshit. So to the girl who has the smelly boyfriend and he just decided to read some stuff one day and be convinced. Yeah.
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Steve
Oh, shocker.
- [74:39]
Ryan Resilio
Right?
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Kyle
Betty likes normal toilet paper. Right. He's not, he's not all about it. Right. He's probably not using recycled rough stuff. So you pick and choose your spots there.
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Ryan Resilio
When you're younger you're impressionable, but I guess I find people that like want to be impressionable but it's always they want to be impressionable in the same lane. It's like, oh, you're really fighting the man. But you literally believe everything else. Like, cool.
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Burke Breer
Yeah.
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Steve
They want to be early on the next thing to say that they were early on the next thing, you know, like, oh yeah, I've been telling you guys.
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Ryan Resilio
But the guy that's like, I'm not going to wear deodorant and I'm going to smell around the house because I read this thing like he, he thinks he's like a freedom fighter, but in reality he's just take a shower. Yeah. Or that. Yeah. Speaking of little feedback, we just have to do it. Probably 50 plus emails on the TaylorMade Rocket Blades clubs that I gave to Kyle because I've still been super confused by this because although Ceruti is 100% right that I would be the guy to be like, let me just buy blades now and I'll figure it out and work my way into them. And I did buy some irons a couple sets over here that were a little bit more aggressive based on my handicap. But I do like them, so whatever. But I've also learned too like golf, you don't just, it's not like playing hoops, you're like, I'm going to wear these sneakers today. Like you kind of have to learn your irons. So just being like, I'm going to play these today. No, no, I'll play these tomorrow and this will be fun. And I'm going to, maybe I'm just going to do a lot of just tight little fades with these guys lot a lot more shot shaping. When you stink, you can't do any of those things. And it makes it even harder when you start changing up your irons. So. But that is the backdrop to all of this. We had a lot of people that remember these specific irons because they came out like 10 plus years ago. And I guess there's. Because I even researched it because I was so convinced, confused, that Kyle's like, no, you gave me blades. And I'm pretty sure they're cavity backs. So there were three different styles. And I'm almost positive, Kyle, that they. Even if they say rocket blades, they're not blades. And I've been backed up by this quite a bit on some of the emails. So could you go grab one and look at the back of it and then show Saruti? He's actually the expert.
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Kyle
Yeah.
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Steve
And that's not true. That's not true.
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Ryan Resilio
But. Well, compared to Kyle and I, you're fucking Ben Hogan. So is there. Is there a possibility of grabbing there Is that a huge ask?
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Kyle
They're in the car in the basement, so that's not going to happen today.
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Ryan Resilio
Yeah.
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Steve
Okay.
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Kyle
But if you're saying cavity backs, you're correct in that there is like a cavity in the back of them.
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Ryan Resilio
That's how they would look. Yeah. So that would mean a non blade and that I didn't give you blades.
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Kyle
It says the word blade on it. So.
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Ryan Resilio
Yeah.
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Kyle
I don't know what to say. That's. That's weird. I don't like that. If they're not blades and they say blades, where'd you get them on the street?
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Ryan Resilio
Where did I get them?
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Kyle
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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Ryan Resilio
The look on his face and I was like, maybe he could grab one. It was great reading that. It was already not happening. And now that I realize we're talking about in a car in the garage. Yeah. I don't want you to do that.
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Steve
Wednesday show and tell. How's that?
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Kyle
All right.
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Steve
Bring one for Wednesday.
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Kyle
You got it.
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Ryan Resilio
Yeah. Because I think I can answer the question to 10 minutes of confusion of whether Ryan gave a set of blades to Kyle. I'm almost certain that Ryan or Kyle or the one of them a prior episode mentioned the clubs were tailor made rocket blades. I own and still play these irons. So I know personally that they say our blades right on the club head. And they most certainly are not actual blades, merely a marketing ploy. They are a game improvement. Iron Tailor made released around 2012 2004. Super forgiving iron. Horrible sound, but a nice feeling iron overall. Thank you.
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Kyle
Well, I was scared of them. I'm definitely a burner guy. But maybe I'll take him for a spin. I probably shouldn't after everything we just said.
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Ryan Resilio
But two iron, Kyle. Look, he has it. No, he has two sets. Okay. All right. Yeah, let's let's get to an email. All right. Hey guys. 31, 5, 10, 230 pounds, basketball comp. Is Michael Scott, like almost literally the same skill level? Honestly, Michael Scott, much better basketball player for a hockey player than you would think, right?
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Kyle
Sure. Not really though. That was really tough to watch. Tough to watch.
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Ryan Resilio
They were like, hey, he's been really good and everybody likes Steve Carell. He's an awesome skater. Can we do an episode where he skates and hockey skates? Like, yeah. Birthday party. Finally, uh, my family and I have a four bed, three bath in the rural Midwest. When we bought it a couple years ago, the previous owners had already finished the basement. But we knew the carpet would have to be addressed at some point. That time wound up being this weekend. We called the local contractor the previous owner had recommended. Let's call him Benny. Benny's a one man crew. Sometimes though, he has the help of his son. We used him last year for a similar project in our main level. During the first job we hired him for, the only issue we had was he arrived a couple hours later, late. Otherwise the work was great and he was easy to work with. With the second job, we'd agreed that he come to our place on Friday morning around 9am to start ripping out the carpet. My father in law was going to be at the house so my wife and I could go to work. Friday comes, I'm at lunch when Benny gives me a call. He says, hey, sorry I haven't gotten to the house yet. This is news to me. So I ask what's up. He says his previous job is running long but it shouldn't be too much longer. He'll be there soon. I call my father in law to update him as well as my wife. We know. We now know being late must be a bit of a theme since that also happened on job number one. But no issue. I finished my work day, head home. My wife calls on the way home. Benny never showed up. I'm kind of ticked now. Not because the job is urgent or needs to be rushed, but because he isn't communicating, isn't following through on the agreed upon timeline. I call Benny. It goes to voicemail, but the box is full. Probably full of cries of previous customers in the same boat as usual. At 8pm Friday, he calls me and apologizes for not showing up. He says he'll be there first thing Saturday morning. In the meantime, my father and I rip. My father in law and I rip up the carpet and haul it out of the basement. Oh, we take the Carpet to the dump Saturday morning, expecting to see Benny when we come back. No Benny. The hours tick by and finally Benny pulls in around 1pm the lack of urgency or remorse for his lack of timeliness has me fired up. But he does get to work for a couple hours. He then seeks out each of myself, my wife and father in law to tell us he has to get a couple things from his shop in a drink from the gas station. The emphasis on this being a drink from the gas station. I just say, okay. Dumbfounded by this exchange, like, how important must this gas station fountain drink be? To make sure each of us hear it directly from him, he returns that everywhere, man.
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Kyle
Only gas stations. If that's what you need. I'm just kidding. I don't even think they make that anymore.
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Ryan Resilio
Dude. I love the great sovie recall from you though.
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Kyle
Thanks.
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Ryan Resilio
What was your favorite sovie?
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Kyle
I don't know. I think it was like some like. It was like a pink one. I don't know, I kind of got scared off. I got scared off by like the white cloudy ones or whatever that was. Like, I wasn't a big like purple ketchup guy either. Something just didn't. Didn't. When it looks weird, I just. I don't know. I don't think it works for me. But definitely feel like I should be saving up my money for Sobeys when all the other cool kids were having them too.
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Steve
I feel like I tried to get one a lot. Yeah, it's cool. The green tea one was good. Do they still make Soby?
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Kyle
I haven't seen them anywhere, man. Maybe like Midwest or something, but I don't know.
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Ryan Resilio
I'm seeing right now discontinued.
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Kyle
Yeah, makes sense.
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Ryan Resilio
Oh wait. Can be found in stores occasionally.
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Kyle
Well then you should maybe audit those stores since the last one was made Strawberry Banana. Yeah, I wouldn't do that one.
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Steve
I don't know if it was like a surge situation where you could only buy them used on. Well, not used, but unopened online. Which if you're spending hundreds of dollars for a soda that came out 20 years ago, damn.
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Kyle
There are some snacks I'll look for. And I'll be like, if I could find them, I would pay a gross amount. I hate to say this. You guys remember Cheese Waffies?
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Steve
No idea.
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Kyle
Don't worry about it. You can't find them anyway. It's a wise snack.
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Steve
Cheese waffies.
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Kyle
So it was like a cheese sandwich, but the. They were like waffle crackers. I don't know. They would load it. You know, and if you ate one of those small bags, it was like, I'm sick, and even me. And I've got kind of an iron stomach, and I was just. They're just good, man. I don't know.
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Ryan Resilio
They're good. Yeah. That is from the Wise family. Cheese waffies.
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Steve
I found never.
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Kyle
Not cheese waffles either.
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Ryan Resilio
No, no waffies. Yeah.
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Steve
99 cents. Big bunch.
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Kyle
Yeah. Can't find them anywhere.
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Ryan Resilio
I don't know. There's one here that says Instacart. Yeah.
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Kyle
When you try to do it, it'll say it's out of stock, though.
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Ryan Resilio
Oh. It's also saying it's $99 for one bag.
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Kyle
See, it's probably just a little over my budget. But if it was like, 40 bucks for.
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Ryan Resilio
I don't know, was that if you hit a home run and T ball or something?
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Kyle
No, they were everywhere, man. They were like sobeys at that time. You could find them everywhere.
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Ryan Resilio
Right. So they weren't $100. Yeah. Anyway, so were you. Were you, like, ever a. Oh, here comes. Here comes. Like, iced tea, Kyle. Or Arizona, you know? Like, I could see you being, like, having a trademark drink.
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Kyle
I was big Arizona. I love the cranberry tea. Mucho mango in high school, for sure. They're just unwieldy Arizona's. You know, there's no cap on them. You just kind of got to commit, and then you're like, you know, you put it in your hand for the rest of the time. So I. But, yeah, Arizona, for sure. Vitamin water formula 50. When that came out, can you imagine? I was all over that. But, yeah, I think. I think it went like, Sobey. Vitamin water. Then Arizona. Now I'm a big Celsius guy. Not cheap.
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Ryan Resilio
Ooh, look out. Starting the day with little. Little kick.
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Kyle
Yeah.
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Steve
You've seen the Arizona guy. Like, the owner, he just won't. He just, like, refuses to raise the price on those.
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Kyle
Have you noticed the 99 cents is not on the new cans anymore, though?
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Steve
Oh, so there's like a.
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Kyle
It's not being printed on the cans anymore.
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Steve
Don't love that.
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Ryan Resilio
You think you'll get, like, an influencer? Like, a fitness influencer thing with Celsius.
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Kyle
Dude, if I could drop some serious weight. I don't think it's off the table.
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Ryan Resilio
I don't think it's off the table at all. I don't know if they're. I don't know if you're what they're looking for, but I think it should be what they're looking for to round out the portfolio of influencers, you know.
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Burke Breer
Yeah.
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Steve
And not every, not every, not every person who's, you know, hawking a product has to be an Instagram model, you know. All right, get the regular Joe.
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Ryan Resilio
Enough being supportive. All right? But at least I think it was, it was a nice detour to just understand what drinks can mean to dudes. And seriously, this carpet guy loves whatever's.
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Kyle
Waiting to have what he's gotta have. Yeah.
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Ryan Resilio
So he returns after three hours which is almost how long it took us to get back to the email. This is now 5pm My wife and I leave for a Christmas party that we don't think had any chance of interfering with this work project back when we scheduled them. Meanwhile, my mother in law has now tagged in to watch the kids stay at the house. Benny leaves about 8:30 Saturday, work still to be done. He tells my mother in law he'll be back Sunday, which is today. So this is email from. This is how upset this guy is. He wrote this whole email out yesterday that'll be back after church. Can't really argue that our carpet install is more important than the big guy, so I'm okay with it. He also shares he can't go on a Monday as he has a large job starting then. So he takes solace knowing Sunday has to be at. Well, the sermon at church must have been over the whole freaking Bible as Benny didn't show up until after 5:00 today. Dude, he's at your house on a Saturday at 8:30 and a Sunday after 5.
- [86:37]
Kyle
He's doing extra work like you're not on his books of the things he's like, I'll get to it when I get to it. I win. I have extra work on the weekend or whatever. This is not okay.
- [86:47]
Ryan Resilio
All right. So sorry. Because I just feel like it's so long. I didn't mean to interrupt you guys, but I'm writing this as we were again dealing with the uncertainty of his antics and trying to keep the peace in the house while bedtimes and early morning for work are on the horizon. I'm also not mentioned that our two dogs who get scared shitless literally by strangers in the house. We've been hiding them like hostages in our bathroom. Each time you see or Benny just left at 9:30 tonight. 9:30 on a Sunday carpet install. That's. Those are crazy hours. Sheriff me. He has about one to two hours of work left to do. I said I'd call him sometime tomorrow to help to figure it out. When he can come back. I'm blown away by the nonchalant style he has. Like, nothing is wrong with not being on time or the minimum communicating. When he won't arrive as expected, what should I do? How should I communicate this frustration or just leave it alone? At this point, we didn't have to put, put any events or shindigs on hold for this. And the work he's doing is good. I haven't paid him yet. I honestly don't know if I have it in me to request a request a discount due to the whole ordeal. But if you guys think there's a case for that, let me know. I. If he's doing good work, get it over with, never call him again. Pay him his full amount. Look, this sounds like Benny is self employed, all right? And you know, in the beginning I was going to be on Benny's side. I knew, and this is, this is absurd, but Benny doesn't give a shit. Benny drove, took three hours to go get a drink. Like he is self is not money.
- [88:11]
Kyle
Probably wasn't getting a drink, by the way. I think, I think he lies about where he's been. And as a guy who smokes, if you need to get to the gas station and you don't want people to know that you want to get a pack of cigarettes, you say you're thirsty and you need a drink. That's just what happens if you need cigarettes or chewing. If you need a tobacco product. There's really. You go to a gas station and you make believe you're buying a Slim Jim in a Sobey or whatever it is you're drinking nowadays. So I think that was probably part of it too. I don't think he needed a drink from the gas station.
- [88:39]
Ryan Resilio
Go ahead, Siri.
- [88:40]
Steve
I think you're right. I think you just got to see it through. It's going to suck. If he's not mangling your basement, pay him his fair share and you don't call him again. Probably what you gotta do.
- [88:50]
Kyle
Yeah, it's annoying, but you don't have to look at, you know, the shoddy work for the rest of, you know, and be like, is it okay that I paid him? And like, I feel like I'm less of a dude or whatever for this. Like, no, and, and I like what I said before. I think he's, he's probably not treating it like his big job. That's on Monday. He's doing it on the weekends, on off hours. He's just trying to squeeze it in. So he beat the system and he, you know, he made some more money on his time, but he's not doing it at 8 o'clock. Like he has to do this big job on Monday. And I just, I think he's just, he's viewing it different. He's viewing your work differently and you're viewing it as if it was something else. So I think you're just like, you got burned with many. But if he finishes it, he finishes it and you know, sniff out the next contractor better.
- [89:31]
Ryan Resilio
Well, you, you may think you will and this other guy, he did a job and apparently was all right, but yeah, eventually it becomes kind of ridiculous and then you don't really want a dude around your house on the weekends on top of everything else, especially when you have a family, you have the dogs and all that stuff. But I'm just telling you, like he doesn't think that's discounted math. He thinks he's doing the job and he's getting it done. Even though there's been some ups and downs and clearly he has other jobs going on. He's, as Kyle said, he's trying to make all of this work. I admire the fact that Benny is self employed. I also wonder if he's self employed because other people were like, I can't work with this guy anymore.
- [90:08]
Kyle
Happening on time, too many soby breaks.
- [90:09]
Ryan Resilio
Yeah, yeah, he's just, he's just doing his own thing. I mean there may be, and I'll be nice about this, a way that Benny sees the world where he's like, what's the problem?
- [90:20]
Steve
What's so that done?
- [90:22]
Kyle
Yeah, yeah, so that's like the tile you asked for. I don't know what's the problem here?
- [90:26]
Ryan Resilio
Now you sit there, you ask him for anything you want. Like, hey, what's your discounted rate for fucking this up? You know, but you haven't actually established any of that yet because you want the job done. You're kind of just stuck, you're just kind of stuck with this whole thing. You like, look, if you think it's going to make you feel better to go, hey, I don't appreciate this, I don't appreciate all these different things. And you need some kind of like closure, like a relationship. Go ahead, let Benny have it as you hand the check over to him a little bit. But the discounted rate thing, it's, it's probably, I mean you can ask for it, but I don't remember ever seeing like a lot of sheet rockers go, yes, sorry, sorry, you know, we didn't have we weren't able to finish everything like on. It's just, it's kind of the way all the moving pieces kind of fit in with each other. So.
- [91:14]
Kyle
Yeah, not to bring Chargers fan Judy into this, but that's a case that the customer would have lost. She would have been like, pay the man. Get out of my courtroom. So even though you get why you're upset, it's just you really don't have a leg to stand on there.
- [91:24]
Ryan Resilio
Yeah. All right. Okay, we get a car accident here. 28, 6 foot, 175 gym stats. Was in the 800 club. Currently not getting near those numbers, although I consider myself an all around athlete. Sub. 3, 4, 5, marathon. Shot an 80 in golf, bowled the 192 hitting dingers in slow pitch softball, including inside the parkers. Well, you, sir, gave us the full pallet.
- [91:49]
Steve
Congrats, man.
- [91:50]
Kyle
What's the 800 Club? Is there a short way to explain that to me?
- [91:53]
Ryan Resilio
Well, a thousand pound club would be 200 that pounds more for bench, squat, and deadlift. He's in the 800. 800.
- [92:02]
Kyle
What, like you're lifting 800 or you're saying like it's all together?
- [92:05]
Ryan Resilio
No, you add it up. Right? So like if you could, if you could squat 400, bench 300, deadlift 300.
- [92:14]
Kyle
So those 3,000 numbers that go in deadlift squad, bench. Okay.
- [92:18]
Steve
Just want to know this is max or is this reps?
- [92:22]
Ryan Resilio
No, it's max. So it would be. Yeah, it would just be like whatever your, your best number is in all those three. Then you add it up and our guys in 800.
- [92:32]
Kyle
Understood, thank you.
- [92:34]
Steve
Trying to think of what my number would be.
- [92:36]
Ryan Resilio
Think you're in like the 600 Club. I think I could. I don't know.
- [92:40]
Steve
I haven't squatted in a long time.
- [92:42]
Ryan Resilio
Well, I'm sure you pick it right back up.
- [92:47]
Kyle
Just make sure you have a Celsius before.
- [92:49]
Steve
Yeah, true, true.
- [92:50]
Ryan Resilio
I did it. I hadn't done it in months and I went back and did it and thought I was like, you've got to be kidding me. I mean, and it wasn't, it was barely any weight. And I was like, this is, this is so bad. Like, maybe you're just done. Because I was like, I think I'm done. I was like, it's starting it. Then I was like, I'm not done. We'll see, We'll. I'll keep you posted. Yeah. So let's, let's, let's game it out quick. Saruti, best bench. Any idea?
- [93:18]
Steve
I Like to think I could bench 1:35, but I don't. I don't know. I don't know.
- [93:25]
Kyle
I have no.
- [93:25]
Ryan Resilio
I'd like to think you could, too.
- [93:27]
Steve
Thanks, man. I don't know.
- [93:30]
Ryan Resilio
How are we getting. How are we getting the rest? How are we getting into the rest of the numbers?
- [93:33]
Steve
You think. You think I could squat 200 pounds today? I don't know. No one could. 75.
- [93:41]
Ryan Resilio
If this is a today thing without any warmup whatsoever.
- [93:44]
Steve
Well, I'd stretch. You know, I get it. I think I get.
- [93:47]
Ryan Resilio
Might be psyched to get to the 400 Club deadlift, though. You could probably deadlift 2:25 right now.
- [93:54]
Steve
Okay.
- [93:54]
Ryan Resilio
And that's. That's where a lot of guys.
- [93:55]
Steve
500 a number. I feel like I could. I should be getting out here.
- [94:01]
Ryan Resilio
No, because we're not even at 400 yet. I mean, that's true. Yeah. 500. 500 might be doable, but you're also younger, too, so maybe you could squat 185. Yeah, maybe. Maybe we get you. Yeah, we probably.
- [94:14]
Steve
This could be a funny YouTube play here where it's like, you should make a T shirt.
- [94:20]
Ryan Resilio
500 Club. The bars just. Or the bars straight.
- [94:24]
Steve
It's just two templates on each side.
- [94:26]
Ryan Resilio
It's not bending at all. It's actually, like, turned up a bit on both sides.
- [94:33]
Steve
Not a lifting guy, you know? What do you want me to do?
- [94:35]
Ryan Resilio
Yeah, but that shirt would. Maybe you market it to people that are intimidated by those numbers, and then you could start an Instagram page. Like, hey, man, just about to hit the plunge. Absolutely killed it at the 500 Club today. We got Doug over here. Deadlift 168. We brought the one and a half. Like, everybody's fired up. New personal best for him. Come on down and join us. Dropping new hoodies. That would actually be pretty funny.
- [95:02]
Steve
Yeah, it would be good.
- [95:05]
Ryan Resilio
I did a public event yesterday.
- [95:07]
Kyle
I saw.
- [95:09]
Steve
Oh, was this the video that everybody was talking about?
- [95:12]
Ryan Resilio
Was everyone talking about it?
- [95:14]
Steve
I just saw people asking if you were in your, like, if it was, you know, slimming down season. I don't know.
- [95:21]
Ryan Resilio
Kyle loved that one. Slimming down. No, no. Although there was just a beast, a specimen of a guy yesterday. He took his shirt off before I got to take mine off. I was like, figures. The one other guy. Huge.
- [95:42]
Kyle
The one other guy. No.
- [95:45]
Ryan Resilio
And they were like, well, he was like, I'll get in the plunge first. I was like, God damn it. Gonna follow this act. I didn't run, by the way. But, yeah, it Was for legends. It was a local pop up shop. Showed up, jumped in the ice baths, people did a fun run. I said hello and then ran back to watch the rest of the football. All right, so we have an email here. Loose Monday, huh? Loose on a Monday. Yep. So started listening back when you were with Canel. Overrated, Underrated, properly rated is still one of my favorite segments of all time. And Cerutis, let's do it again. Let's do an NBA one this week. Done.
- [96:20]
Steve
I was going to ask you if you guys wanted to do a YouTube this week but yeah, could do it.
- [96:23]
Ryan Resilio
Do you want to do it with that?
- [96:25]
Steve
Could do.
- [96:25]
Ryan Resilio
Yeah.
- [96:26]
Steve
Do YouTube only.
- [96:27]
Ryan Resilio
Okay. Done, done and done. Don't know if I can do it.
- [96:30]
Kyle
But heard that before. Yeah, we'll see.
- [96:32]
Steve
May or may not be there.
- [96:35]
Ryan Resilio
Good chance I can't do it this week, but love the idea here.
- [96:38]
Kyle
Let's go.
- [96:40]
Steve
Nice.
- [96:40]
Ryan Resilio
Can we tape it at 8:30 Saturday night?
- [96:44]
Steve
You guys aren't busy, right?
- [96:47]
Ryan Resilio
And then don't show up like oh, that was this Saturday. Haven't heard any emails about a car accident so I figured this could be unique enough. This past summer I ran the local four mile race on Father's Day weekend and on my way home at 8:30am A guy blew a red light in T bone the front driver's side of my car. After the accident, I see the other guy and recognize him from years of park district league, slow pitch softball. Never spoken to the guy but I played against him for years. Still see him at the local bars. After the accident scene. After the accident scene was locked down by police, I was loaded into the ambulance on a gurney in shock.
- [97:22]
Burke Breer
Whoa.
- [97:23]
Ryan Resilio
On the way to the hospital, I'm facing the rear of the ambulance strapped to the gurney and the EMT asked me some questions related to the incident. Then he starts repeating the questions and I realize he's interrogating the dude that just totaled my car and he's sitting three feet behind me. In the moment I couldn't fathom they put us in the same ambulance to spare you some unimportant details. Skip ahead and I find out the impact tore part of the AC joint in my left shoulder. Likely the outer AC ligament is forever torn. I did the physical therapy and currently have no pain in full range of motion Again. I recently started going to the gym. Everything is on the table except for benching. Chest workouts are still not possible with more than 25 pound dumbbells. Won't be trying barbell for another six months. Flash forward to the guy or flash forward to two weeks ago on Thanksgiving. I'm running another race, the local turkey trot here in the Midwest. Race, temp of 28 degrees. Okay. I find some friends before the race and lock eyes with the guy that hit me nearby. I end up just looking away and avoid any sort of confrontation. I've never been a fighter and setting. The setting obviously wasn't the time for a conversation. What were my options here? Should I have approached him and said, nice to see you, I figured you'd be in prison, end quote.
- [98:37]
Steve
Definitely not that.
- [98:39]
Ryan Resilio
Or should have. I expected him to apologize. Moving forward, I can only hope to return to hitting bombs and softball and beat this guy in the diamond. Whoa. All right, well, look, first of all, it doesn't sound like you should be fighting anybody for at least six months. So put that one.
- [98:54]
Kyle
That's tough. Had that.
- [98:55]
Ryan Resilio
Can we, can we take a like the 10,000 foot view of this? Like without having any information of why the guy ran the red light or T boned you or whatever? Like, could it have just been an accident or is the guy an. Is he drive like an was. I mean, there's nothing. I think we just leave drinking off the table. 8:30am or whatever. But this email is obviously very upset. His car gets T boned. He's got some serious damage. Like, could be long term damage. He obviously loves to compete. He mentioned softball three times. So I'm wondering because they're or people listening to this email, because I don't want to be getting it wrong. And it's not like I'm like, this sucks what this guy just sent us. It completely sucks. But is anyone else. At least I only got Kyle and Steve here. Could it be as simple as you need to chill out? It was an accident.
- [99:48]
Kyle
Yeah, that was going to be my thing. They call it an accident. Dude, he ran a red light. But come on.
- [99:56]
Steve
The only thing I would say is if you kind of know the guy, it sounds like he wants some closure, like at least an apology, something if the guy didn't say anything to him and it's just. He's just kind of floating around town.
- [100:08]
Ryan Resilio
Yes, like that.
- [100:09]
Steve
That would bother me. I don't know that I would confront him and like be, you know, I don't know, go that route. But I get why you're probably upset to be like, hey man, it's okay. Accidents happen. But like apologize to me, talk to me, say my bad, maybe buy me a beer or something. I don't know, anything. And it sounds like he hasn't done anything.
- [100:26]
Kyle
So I gave those guys that I hit on Christmas Eve, I gave them all the money in my pocket that day. So, I mean, do something.
- [100:32]
Ryan Resilio
Yeah, no, that's a good point. Saruti, like, legitimately just needs some acknowledgement of it, like, to net to be the guy that T bones you and to never acknowledge it. Like, I can't imagine if it was someone within the circle of, like, a small town where you're going to be running into each other. I mean, this guy's known each. They haven't known each other, but they know of each other for a really long time, and they just feel like I'm going to ignore it after I. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I can. I can see that. I guess maybe the level of, like, I thought, good to see you. I thought you'd be in prison. Like that. That cranks it up a notch.
- [101:04]
Kyle
And also saying, I'm not a fighter, so what should I do? It's like, the fact that that's on the table, like, the nature of this is an accident. You know what I mean? It's not like your. Your family was in the car and he was drunk driving. Like, you know, that guy's paid something for what happened. I mean, not probably physically, but, you know, his insurance probably sucks now. Like, he. He's had, like, he enough probably happened to that guy where he's just like, well, I paid my dues, and I don't think that's a good view on it. Like, I think you should still be like, you know, sorry. But I think he probably was like, yeah, my life sucks a little more now. So I guess. I guess that's how the world. Yeah, that's probably.
- [101:38]
Steve
He's probably embarrassed. I mean, he's probably embarrassed, too. I mean, it's just like, hey, if I don't confront this, if I don't say anything about it, it'll just go away.
- [101:44]
Kyle
Yeah, being a bad driver sucks as a dude. Like, if you get that, like, rap, like, when I was. When I was 17, 18.
- [101:52]
Ryan Resilio
Do you have to shake that?
- [101:53]
Kyle
A lot of my friends, I think I'm a great driver. I think a lot of my. I don't even want to say. I won't say it, but I think. I think a lot of, no, I'm not going to. You can't make me. But I think a lot of my friends, I was kind of the guy who was driving, like, they just didn't have cars. And my dad let me use his car a lot and they were just like. They asked me to drive them everywhere and I would because I just wanted to be out of the house. But then they'd be like, this guy's crazy. You know, I mean, I was just doing teenage stuff and, you know, maybe not signaling before turning and stuff like that, but I definitely shook that. But for a while they were just like, man, bad driver Kyle. That's. That's kind of. That was like kind of the moniker for me. And that's totally not true anymore. But as a dude, it's not. It's not good to be known as somebody who's like, yeah, you gotta watch him. Good luck, you know?
- [102:36]
Steve
Yeah.
- [102:36]
Kyle
So he probably has a little bit of that too. Small town. It's like, did you hear Jeff fucking blew through a stop sign. Watch out for Jeff.
- [102:42]
Steve
See, I had the opposite of that.
- [102:44]
Ryan Resilio
I.
- [102:44]
Steve
For my whole life, I had never. I hadn't been in an accident, so.
- [102:47]
Kyle
It was always good.
- [102:48]
Steve
No matter how I drove. It's like, hey, I'm good. Like, I've never been in an accident, so, like, don't talk to me. And I feel like I was a good driver too. But then I got in a little fender bender dust up, you know, a couple years back, and it's a bummer to not have that to fall back on anymore, you know, it's like, ah, man, now I gotta. Now I actually have to listen when people say, do, you know, And I'm not again. I'm not like a reckless driver. But that was always my go to thing. And it sucks not having that anymore. So maybe that's. That's what our guy's going through is like, now everybody thinks I suck.
- [103:13]
Kyle
Right? My insurance is more. And I got this. I got a bad rap now.
- [103:16]
Ryan Resilio
Yeah. We had a crew in college I hated because they were just aggressive drivers. They, like, liked to run red lights. They thought it was funny.
- [103:25]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [103:25]
Ryan Resilio
I'd be in the car with them and I'd be like, I just. There'd be guys, I'd be like, I'm just not getting in the car with you. It's not because I'm scared. It's just. I think you're a dick. And then we had one guy that was such a bad driver, like, he wouldn't pay attention. We did a road trip down to Boston with him. So it was Vermont to Boston and no one had any idea. And then we got in the car with him and guys were like, looking at each other being like, is this serious? And he wouldn't, he wouldn't watch the road. You were so afraid, you were so afraid to not watch the road for him that it just, all you did was it's like a three and a half hour drive and you just sit there stressed out the entire time.
- [104:03]
Steve
Isn't it funny? Like that's just like, what dude? Like, dudes just do that? They just are dumb drivers when they're young or they just do dumb stuff on the road. Like, I remember when we were in.
- [104:11]
Kyle
College, a win, ran a red light, saved two minutes. That's a win. I'm going to do it twice more and then I'm going to brag how I got this 30 minute trip in 18 minutes. And it's like, dude, I just Remember.
- [104:20]
Steve
We packed seven dudes into a Chevy S10 to go to Hooters in college. One time we had. It was, was obviously driver, passenger, two little seats in like the cab, whatever. And then three dudes just laying in the truck bed on the highway.
- [104:34]
Burke Breer
Yeah, what do we do?
- [104:37]
Ryan Resilio
Yeah, I've done that. I mean, especially when I had the truck and guys are like, I just load in.
- [104:42]
Kyle
What guys in their 20s could do with a minivan is absolutely insane. Like, you'd be shocked. You think there's eight guys in there? There's 13.
- [104:50]
Ryan Resilio
If this, if this guy's local red light shithead, then we're all completely on your side with this. Because I see it in LA sometimes I think the red light thing is just the absolute fear of being stuck in another cycle of traffic or whatever. But like if different intersections around my place, like I see it constantly where you're not squeezing the yellow here, you're just like, I don't care because I know I can still make it because their starting point on a green and like you'll have a green and then the car just shoots right across you. So I, I can understand the frustration with it, but I don't, I don't know that it needs to be like as confrontational as maybe you present potential scenarios in the email.
- [105:34]
Kyle
Yeah, I think you're too mad if your kids were in the car or something like that. And you know, I could see, I could see it a little more. I still would have been like, maybe you should chill out, it's an accident. But you know, charge to the game.
- [105:43]
Ryan Resilio
Imagine how mad that guy's going to be listening to this email.
- [105:47]
Steve
We don't get it.
- [105:48]
Kyle
We're on your side to be clear.
- [105:49]
Ryan Resilio
We are with the information that we have. I think we understand it, but I just, I don't know I Accidents do happen. Unless this guy. Absolutely. We've covered it. All right, that's enough. Oregon free. Oregon free Monday all right. Didn't get him in here. Feel like it could be a loss. I know. Sad. Thank you to Kyle. Thank you to Saruti. Check out our YouTube page, which may or may not have content this week. That's bonus content. Brian Rosilla Podcast bring your Spotify LA must be 21 and older. Present in select states. For Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18/ plus and present in D.C. gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny in New York.