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The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Lions-Chiefs Hypothetical, and Ohio State Outclasses Penn State Again With Todd McShay. Plus, the Embiid Confrontation.
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Ryan Rossillo
Detroit marches on the title of best team in the NFL. Perhaps we'll do best win, worst loss and also a little bonus coverage after I do the College Football top 12. I want to talk about this embiid story from the locker room over this past weekend. We'll do more on that. Chiefs, Lions, super bowl today with McShay. How many other teams in the NFC should you be afraid of? What the hell is going on with Trevor Lawrence? A deeper breakdown on Penn State, Ohio State with him and also Carson Beck in Georgia's win against Florida. We've got life advice for you with the gang extended here. Enjoy the pod. Week nine best win is Detroit at Green Bay. Without question, Detroit continues their march towards the title of best team in the NFL despite Kansas City's perfect record. I think we could talk about the defensive differences between the two teams, but Detroit's up 20, 243 in the third quarter. Rainy at Green Bay. You know, one of the things with Detroit schedule, when you looked at golf and you thought how many times this guy even gonna play in any kind of weather? Well, this is the first time they actually played in a non dome situation. I don't know, maybe if there was a, a roof that was open at one of these points. But you know, they gave up 150 more yards. But it didn't matter because they were doing all the Dan Campbell stuff. Here again they got to pick six. They converted both fourth downs, one of them fourth and one at the Green Bay 15 yard line, running it right in for a touchdown. Green Bay had 20 first downs in this one, but they were able to control most of the game. And with that kind of score, you're like, this isn't even really close. Now granted, Jordan loves dealing with this groin injury that we saw lingering constantly throughout last week. And I think you can see step up or just show itself in certain moments. Despite love, like looking at the entire game you're like, all right, that's not so bad. But it's just, you know, no Hutchinson. And then to do this defensively against Green Bay and all these receivers. Hutchinson, who had a 25% pressure rate this season, was the highest we've seen in a from a player in five years. The defensive numbers are still not exactly where you'd want them to be. Even with the investment in the secondary. The opposing yards per play is 5.7, which is the bottom third of the NFL. Last year it was 5.7 for the entire season, but that was actually 29th. So that ranking is a little bit Higher, even if the opponent's yards for play is the same. But you know, they've been better, like a lot better defensively against three of the last four opponents here. And I just think it's one of those wins where you're like, I don't know, I don't know if anybody in the NFC is even close to this team. They got Minnesota. Granted it was a tough one, you know, they gave us some points there. But the last month the defense has been getting better just based on what the opponents aren't doing even with this Hutchinson injury. So look, all the love for them and they deserve all of it because that was dominant in a condition where you were like, is Green Bay going to be more suited for this than Detroit will be? With all these fast guys and the offense and all the precision on stuff, it was like, nope, actually Detroit's totally in control of this thing. All right, playoff seating. Do you know where your Arizona Cardinals are this Monday morning? You probably don't. They are a four seed in the NFC five and four record, first place in the nfc. The only team in the NFC West. Well, first place in the NFC West. Right, the only team in the NFC west that's undefeated. So they're two and other division and it's the latest in a season. They've been in sole possession of first place since November of 21. So it's been three years. So the comeback field goal against the Chargers and the previous two weeks Arizona had had these games, especially the Miami game where it was a bit like the Jacksonville Philly game that we had just yesterday, which I'll get into. Cause there's just always this one game on a Sunday where you think, okay, I cannot, I cannot pay attention to this one anymore, it's fine. And then you just, you're at the end going, is this possible? Like this is going to happen. This other team has a chance to win this thing. And I think nothing would have been grosser for Philly fans for them to blow that game to Jacksonville considering the score and the control of that game. However, with Arizona, they're in the game with the Chargers. Really good defense with the LA Chargers, but they find a way kick the game winning field goal. Okay, Miami, they're down 2718. Looks like Miami's getting 2A back. Good news for everybody. Miami's going to get a win on the board against you know, kind of a week to week fighting Arizona team where you didn't know really what like that Bills game that they lost. He probably felt better about them, but they get off to the one and three start. Well, they won three in a row and they were dominant yesterday against the Bears, sacking Caleb Williams six times. And I think the best part about this is that Arizona did it by running the football out, gaining the Bears on the ground 213 to 69. And Kyler not really being like having to be Superman the entire time like he has in some of these drives. In other games, they were just in control, this one from the jump and then beat up on Caleb the entire time. So they've won three in a row. They're in first place in there division and actually a four seed despite better records of some of the teams behind them. Some quick stuff on the Chicago part of this. We know that tyreek Stevenson, number 29, who was, you know, infamously connected with the Hail Mary, where he's turned around and getting into it with the crowd, while Jane Daniels is actually scrambling around trying to get the pass off. And then he comes over and tips it, tipped up, whatever, Hail Mary, they catch it, lose all deals. So then there was two different versions of the story, which I think are probably the same, though. And there's always a lesson in this that I think you should remember if you care about this stuff a lot, right? And granted, it's what I do for a living, so it's, it's, it's sort of important. But Jay Glazer had a piece on the pregame show that I was watching on Fox where it was like, hey, here's the deal. Like, Tyreek got demoted and then he took himself out of practice and, you know, whatever, we'll pay attention. So like, now that's planting the seed of like, okay, this, this might be really bad. He played yesterday, and to his credit, Tyreek, I don't know if it was real or if it was fake, but he was doing it. He was letting everybody know as they came off the sideline, like, hey, let's get it. You know, he was being involved. He was doing the things you would want to see somebody do, whether genuine or completely calculated, those would be the things you would want to do. But what happens whenever there's kind of the national part of it and it's a story that maybe the team doesn't want out, then they'll go to somebody that covers the team locally and kind of say that the national thing isn't right, but the story basically sounds like it's the same. And this is probably way too much on this thing at this point, but I just wondered how much it would really matter for a Bears team that record wise probably got some teams at the right time. And to have Caleb look like beginning of the year Caleb, where he's getting his ass handed to him again is probably not where you want to be halfway through the season but. But the damage control of. Well that's not really what happened. It's like well what happened this guy. This guy asked out of practice after you demoted him from just starting defensive back position, correct? Well, yes, but no. And it happens in every sport. It happens all the time where they're not even refuting that what the first guy said was wrong. They'll just find somebody else to tell a different version of sometimes the same thing as if that's controlling the message Anyway, whatever lesson out there for you. Philadelphia 6 and 26 seed in the NFC currently they lose the tiebreaker to Minnesota because of strength of record stuff like they go deep on that tiebreaker probably won't matter. So don't worry about it. They've won a four. They've won four in a row. I talked up to Cincy win last week because I thought it was a really good win and for them to just be dominant in the second half and tear it up after. Look, Philly had three possessions because of how ridiculous Cincinnati's opening drive was. I believe so only three offensive possessions for the Eagles in that game. Still able to put up that many points and just feeling better about them getting more possessions. Things turning over a little quickly in that second half. So at home against Jacksonville better health with the skill guys up 22 zip. This is a walkover. The sake the Saquon Barkley run really is that special. Like you can't watch it enough because the last move for him to kind of line up like I think I'm going to jump backwards and hurdle this guy coming behind me. One you that you could actually be positioned that way on a football field and not be scared to death with your back towards defenders. But then to hurdle over somebody in reverse. Kind of back to those original things of why Saquon when he's coming out of the draft like okay, this guy's actually a little bit different and this is why you can take a running back this high. Well least those were the arguments back then. There's also one of my favorite players in this game. I don't know what hack happened on the second down. So the third and 22 that hurts his Devonte Smith is an absurd throw catch whole thing. I thought that ball was out because it looked like, he put so much on that football. I was like, is that. Is that going to be back through the end zone? And it happens sometimes on some of those throws at quarterbacks. You're like, oh, he put too much on that. And it's just the receivers are so good and it's exactly what they're supposed to do. And it's actually the perfect throw. And nobody else is going to get that ball except for the receiver. Except on second down, he overthrew it. And I thought, was he overthrowing that or he just missed that badly where the fan caught it and then spiked it. People were wondering, why didn't you just keep the football? I'm pretty good. Pretty sure they're probably going to go up to you and ask for the football back because it wasn't actually given to you. So those two plays, you're up 22, nothing. You know, like, all right, Phillies got this. Except they don't. I think the third and 22 made it 28, by the way. So Jacksonville is down 28, 22 with 2:11 to go. Let's run through these throws. So Jacksonville gets on the board with a touchdown. Then there's a fumble. Touchdown. So now it's 22, 16. Then we mentioned that third and 22 shot. That makes it 28 16. Jacksonville scores again. But here's what I thought was really alarming through all this because Trevor Lawrence still has numbers that'll tell you like, this year is better than any other year that he's had. Clearly, his first year was terrible. There was enough of a second year jump to feel good about him in combination with the fact of who he was in college and the kind of prospect that people talked about him being coming out. Although I do remember Dill for telling us he was a long loader. All right, write that one down. Long loader. Anyway, Jacksonville down 28, 23. It's first in 10 after that miss. Field goal at the Jacksonville 47. Trevor Lawrence throws it to Washington. Incomplete. That was a miss. Throws it short middle to Ingram. That was a miss. 2 minute warning. Incomplete pass up the right side. But it was pass interference on this one. Now, I don't know if the PI was the reason why the shot looked like it wasn't even close to anybody, but I don't know if I want to give Lawrence the benefit of the doubt. We could maybe on that one. Then deep right, incomplete, miss. And then short left. That converted and got him a first down. So that was like the one throw out of this entire stretch where you go, okay, because these other ones are just behind the guy, not even close to anybody. Then on first and 10 at the Philly 13, you're down 28, 23, it's first down, he throws an interception into the end zone. Nakobe Dean, my man, that is the kind of throw that you have to make on 4th and 10 in that spot. And maybe not even that, or maybe fourth and fourth and goal from the eight where there's no chance of even like the game is basically going to be over because there's no chance of getting another first down. The carelessness of what that throw was in combination with how many other throws just on this possession alone, he just was missing everybody. And it kind of made me feel like, well, is that why they were getting touchdowns before? Because they were like that thing that we've talked about in the past where when quarterbacks are just so carefree because they're losing, they're down three scores here, so it doesn't really matter. She's going to be a little bit looser with the ball. But then as soon as it's like a real possession again where the outcome of every throw matters, does he turn back into the guy that you don't trust? That possession was awful. The last interception also awful. And it did make me think too like after seeing his second year jump going, okay, this makes more sense based on the guy we watched on Saturdays. But is his 200 million guaranteed the second worst quarterback contract or is there still hope for this guy? I don't know. Best wins, Detroit. Worst loss. I don't think any but anything's going to top the Texans losing to the Jets. I think that's the worst loss of anything we saw and nothing really trumped that yesterday. If Philly had blown that game, that could have been it. Dallas is bad again, you know. 27:13. Late touchdown against Atlanta. 27:21 makes it seem better. Apparently. Dak reading lips on the sideline. We effing suck. I thought TUA played really well yesterday. So no turnovers from Tua in back to back games even though he had three fumbles that he did not lose against Arizona. Zero lost fumbles in these two games and then a 14 play touchdown drive for 97 yards after the Allen interception off the key and Coleman tip, which was just an amazing play by Jalen Ramsey. But you know, Miami goes up 103 and you're wondering if they're finally going to get Buffalo because TU has only gotten them one other time while beating up on the other two teams. In New England in the Jetson Division. But nope, can't beat Buffalo. And Tyreek Hill has had one touchdown since week one and Jalen Waller got his first TD of the season. Look at those guys numbers. I mean even with TUA coming back, it's nice to see things cranked up. I guess against New England those guys had a few more targets there. The Saints have fired Dennis Allen. Quite a departure from the Clint Kubiak love two weeks into the season where they were scoring a million points. No one could stop them. Perfect marriage of OC and quarterback. Everybody's on the same page and then you lose seven in a row. And granted Carr got hurt and it was disrupted with the Rattler deal. And then you were on to the other kid from Fresno I think Allen 18 and 25 with the Saints. I gotta tell you this, I was happy for Bryce Young. I was just happy to see Bryce Young get a win yesterday and look like he was having fun playing football again for the first time I think I've seen since he was at Alabama. Get ready to tackle the NFL action with FanDuel, America's number one sports book. Because right now new customers can bet 5 DOL and get 150 in bonus bets if you win. 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That'll all probably take care of itself that I as of right now want to avoid. But I just don't know how you consistently can stay to one rule without breaking that rule. To get 12 teams into this. I have Oregon one like everybody else, although the coaches pulled. There's one coach that did not vote Oregon number one as they easily handed handled Michigan. Georgia's two in both polls. I have Georgia two as well. Carson Beck is a mess though. I mean, he was a mess again in that Florida game. He threw three more picks. It was 2020. Florida is definitely a little bit better now this year than they were at the beginning of the year. Maybe the last time you saw them, Miami was handing it to him. So they're better than they were to start the year. But 2020 is probably not what you're expecting out of Georgia. Some people still think they're the best team in the entire country. Ohio State Stop Me, if you've heard this before, gets it done against Penn State again 2013 and they needed a run clock, a ton of clock. I think they got it back with like five minutes left and they got four first downs and you could tell that drive them being able to run the football. Then will Howard converting that last one knowing they're going to run out the clock. Victory formation. Those guys were fired up about that win, which also makes me think that Ohio State either was that worried about their own offensive line issues. I think also in combination with how much they respected Penn State as an opponent. The AP and coaches poll have Miami at 4. I'm going to have Texas at 4. I'd argue that Michigan, Oklahoma, Vandy, maybe not Michigan. This is crazy. Is Oklahoma or Vandy better than any single win that Miami has this year? Miami's going to go the entire season not playing anybody ranked. And by the way, Duke, I mean how weird was that game? They were down 2817 to Duke and then outscored him 36 3. The rest of the way they're going to go 12 0. They've got Georgia Tech wake in Syracuse to finish this up. They will be a top four seed I would imagine, depending on what happens. I obviously was holding out hope for Clemson still and they get absolutely smashed by Louisville. They made it look closer at the end of this game with a couple scores, but yeah, this one was, this was 33:14 there before a late touchdown. So the ACC had kind of a weird wake up call weekend, especially when you include the pit SMU result where Pittsburgh got trounced in this one as well. And it was ugly. I mean it was 31 to 3 at halftime. SMU. So we'll have SMU ranked there. So yeah, I've flipped Texas and Miami just based on who they've beaten, but Miami's going to be in this thing and it looks even better. They're going to get through the, the, the ACC title game. Well, it's happening around them. All right, so Penn State, I put them at six. Look, I don't really want to beat up on Penn State today because I don't really know that that's, you know, I know they never beat them. You know, we've already talked about the history here. They just rarely get them. Franklin doesn't have a great record against these good teams. I'll admit too. Like, I think Fox goes overboard with the pro Big Ten stuff because they think they're counteracting this ESPN SEC stuff. And I think that I don't know, I think it's kind of a waste of time. And like, when they put the graphic up a couple weeks ago where it was like, Penn State would have six playoff appearances, three more than any other team, if it were 12 teams throughout all this. And it's like, well, that doesn't mean anything. It just means that they don't. They. They beat up on all the people that they play on their schedule. But I actually think Penn State's better this year. I think the USC win was a tough win despite what USC's record is. Maybe you're dismissive of it. Up 10, nothing in this one. You think you have them. I know. Then it ends up being this deal where you're pissed because it's. You think like, oh, it should have been a day game, it should have been a night game and all these other. Whatever they were in it. It wasn't like they were embarrassed. But yeah, it's a little too repetitive. And now Penn State probably is still in the playoff if they stay clean against Washington, Purdue, Minnesota and Maryland. So actually they're going to get into the playoff in the version that I was always so upset about. Number seven, Indiana. So Indiana is actually in first with Oregon 6, 0, both in the conference, 9, 0 overall. Trounce Michigan State, who's a 4 and 5 football team, and we'll see what happens at Ohio State. The crazy thing will be if the loser's definitely in, right? Because Indiana would be 11:1 and then that would mean we'd have an Oregon, Ohio State rematch. Right. Like, is that better for Indiana? Well, I don't know. If they get. If they get Ohio state and they're 12 and oh going into it, then they're probably in anyway. The Indiana thing is like really changed up a lot of the stuff where it's going to be a boost. It's like it's going to be an extra boost for Ohio State, but Ohio State's already going to be in now anyway because they're only lost number one team in the country. So we'll see. We'll see. BYU 8. I have Tennessee 9. I kind of lost interest in Tennessee there. A little bit slow game going against Kentucky, but they pulled it out. That's fine. Notre Dame 10. I'm going to go SMU 11 after crushing Pittsburgh. SMU is 13 in the AP and 15 in the coaches poll. So the voters not loving them as much. Twelves, here are your options. The AP went with Bama 11, Boise 12. The coaches have Bama 11. They have Ole Miss 12th where the AP is not as into Ole Miss despite just an ass kicking against Arkansas on Saturday. So there's this collection of SEC teams here, whether it's Bama, LSU, A&M dropping five spots. Thanks Russello for the alliance pick. South Carolina, then Ole Miss. So you've got six spots here and it's four SEC teams. But they all kind of like have big games again here too as well. Like Bama's going to play LSU here. A&M's got Texas, Ole Miss still has Georgia, that one's at home. So there's a chance certainly to get back into this stuff, but they're also chance to kind of eliminate each other here as well and Tennessee I think the rest of the way. Yeah, see they have Georgia also, so I'm going to go with I don't really want to put Bama there like everybody else did. So why don't we just go Boise, even though today I don't know. I mean Bama's not like this world killer right now. So just to sit here and say automatically that I know Bama is better than Boise State, they probably are, but I'm fine with Boise after putting together a nice little run here. Even though yep, they haven't beaten anybody. Ranked great. Awesome. Breaking my own rules again. All right, speaking of breaking rules, I want to talk a little NBA off of the big news from the weekend that had nothing to do with any of the games and that was Joel Embiid getting into it with a reporter. So the backstory here, and I only understand this as an outsider because I don't know Marcus Hayes, Philadelphia Inquirer columnist, I guess he's been there forever. He wrote this story about Embiid and as you know, if you listen to me talk about Embiid like I'm kind of getting over it in general, despite liking him, I've just been more over. I talked about it in the over Underpod. It became a breakout video. Then it makes it look like I hate Embiid, but I just kind of tired of just all the around it. And then when somebody's like, hey, did you read that columnist? To kind of lit them up, I was like, oh, I wonder if I'll agree with a lot of this stuff. Well, when I read the column I actually couldn't believe it because Hayes was trying to make a point and it was such an impossible turn where he said, quote, joel Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son Arthur as the major inflection point in his career. He often says that he wants to be a great. He wants to be great to leave a legacy for the boy named after his little brother, who died in an automobile accident when Embiid was in his first year as a 76er. All right, next paragraph. Well, in order to be great at your job, you first have to show up for work. Embiid has been great at just the opposite. Now in his 11th season, he consistently has been in poor condition. I gotta tell you. Yes, I would. I would not argue for Embiid's conditioning. I would also agree that, yeah, it's kind of ridiculous, like, how often he's hurt and the other times he's missing games. I would say, as an editor to this piece, I'd be like, you know what? Maybe we put a little buffer in there in between the death of his brother and then right into dumping on him for not playing in enough games. Like, is there any way you can get from that point to the next point with a few other points in between? Or maybe just don't make that point because that seems a little unfair. And when I read it, I kind of couldn't fucking believe it. I was like, that's so. I don't know. Trust me. I'm not saying this to be dismissive of anybody that's a writer. It's just that I'm not reading every local story as. Certainly not as much as I used to when it comes to these teams. But I also know that, like, when I was in Boston, there was always, like, a columnist or two that would decide to just kind of be that guy, right? You just kind of be that guy and get reaction and piss people off. And some people actually make, like, a real living out of it by being relevant, by pissing everybody off all the time. I have no idea if that's what this guy's deal is, but I thought it was crossing a line. Then on Saturday night, you're watching some of the late college football and you see a tweet from another Sixers reporter saying that Embiid's assaulted a reporter in the locker room. I always feel like the word assault does more work. Like, it just feels like it's, oh, my God, this must be really bad. And then I don't know what happened because there was all sorts of stuff happening on X where it was somebody who's yelling, don't report this. Apparently there wasn't a video. When it feels like there's always a video that. That it was just a shove. And, you know, I. You can't It's. It's hard to sit here and say, like, hey, I'm totally okay with it, but I'm just on Embiid's side with this one. I thought this piece crossed the line. And, you know, you're not supposed to put your hands on anybody and that kind of stuff. And Embiid's an enormous human being, so he's going to have the physical advantage of literally anybody he's going up against here. But I guess what I would say is, instead of saying, like, cool, it's awesome he shoved this reporter. I also don't think assault should have been thrown around as freely as it was. You can get into the semantics of it. I think normal people would be like, there's a difference between shoving somebody in the shoulder, if that's just what happened, and then just jacking somebody in the head. So basically, my point would be, even where I'm at or where I'm positioned right now with Embiid, I had no issue with this whatsoever because I thought this article crossed a line and was just trying to be like. It was trying to be brutal on purpose. I think those two paragraphs, it was like, let me see how nasty I can make this. And I guess they actually changed. They edited the original article and changed that part of it or just took it out entirely after people were so pissed about it. So, yeah, cool. You get a reaction, and then you also get one out of the player, and we'll see what happens. Good to have Todd McShay with us Mondays, as always. The McShay Show, Saturdays, Tuesdays, Thursdays. I knew you guys did a break breakdown of Georgia, Florida, also some Ohio State, Penn State stuff. So there's a couple things that I want to do from that. But let's start with the NFL. Detroit feels like. Well, I don't know if I can say they're the most complete team, but they feel like they're marching towards best team in the NFL, despite the fact that Kansas City is undefeated. But maybe we're just holding Kansas City to its own standard because Kansas City is a much better defense to this point of the season than Detroit is. But when you watch the Lions play dominant on the road in Green Bay conditions, and they look like the more comfortable team through it all. I know Love's dealing with the groin injury, but just takeaways on, like, if it were right now, if Detroit were playing Kansas City in the super bowl, who would you pick?
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Todd McShay
Well, let's start with Detroit, right? I guess the big question mark was How. How was Detroit going to play outside? You know, in. In these conditions? And they. They seemed like the outside team. They seemed like, you know, they were not a dome football team. They handled the conditions better. And yes, part of it was. Was Jordan Love just not being himself and dealing with the groin injury and making some. I mean, I don't want to call them uncharacteristic mistakes because he still makes some mistakes where you're like, oh, man, come on. But. But it just felt like Detroit, like the conditions were not an issue for the Lions and they jumped him early and were able to kind of then lean into playing with a lead. And it just. It looked. It looked the way you would expect a team that is used to playing outside. Look. And that was the big question mark, right? I think this. And then they've got another game. What is it at Chicago late in the season. But other than that, they're like a lot of warm weather dome games. They're protected. So the biggest thing for me is how complete this team looks defensively. Yeah, they lost Hutchinson and you can't make up for that, but they've been able to make up for that so far. And they're doing it. But they're blitzing more, and they have. When you blitz, the obvious issue that comes with blitzing and being more aggressive is that you leave yourself vulnerable in the back end. They've handled it extremely well. I love their safety tandem, Joseph and Branch, and Branch gets kicked out of that game and Joseph steps up and has the huge pick. I think that's two weeks in a row with an interception. I've always loved Joseph. So I just. I think the fact that they're making plays on the back end, the fact that they're dialing up pressure at the right time. Are they as good as Kansas City defensively? No, but they're damn good. And offensively, I don't think there's any question the more efficient offensive team, and that's Detroit. And it's kind of weird to say with Patrick Mahomes, but it's been a couple of years now with struggling in the regular season on offense, weapons, whether it's injuries or losing guys in the off season, they just don't look as dynamic and explosive as they have and, you know, as they had been in years past. So I don't know about you, man, but, like, it's so impossible to sit there and be like, yeah, I would feel great about Detroit against Kansas City in a Super bowl setting because you got Mahomes and you Got that defense. But right now the better team in my mind when I'm watching games on Sunday, the better team has been Detroit. I mean offensively like St. Brown, what he's doing, just so consistent and so dynamic. Laporta is a stud at tight end. We knew that from his rookie year and continues to be a huge factor. Jameson Williams isn't even in. He'll be back at some point and when he comes back he adds another element. But this Khalid Raymond, the Holy Cross kid has stepped up the last two weeks in his absence. So you got the two headed monster. Running back Jameer Gibbs has been everything they had hoped for and more. As a first round pick when everyone was just bashing Brad Holmes. We talked about it right after the draft, like yeah, you can yell at him all you want, but they got huge different difference makers with their draft picks and just the way that they were able to load up on picks for a two year span and how productive those players have been from the early rounds. Like this is an organization that has built it the right way and the product on the field has been phenomenal. And, and Jared Goff, like, how about that stat? Did you see that stat? The Lions have In the last six games since week three, I guess have 26 touchdowns and Jared Goff has 22 incompletions. Like that's outrageous, man.
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Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, there's all these stats where, you know, in the past I would wonder, okay, what's your completion rate? And then that doesn't seem to matter as much because the design of some of the throws in the offense. But Goff's at 75% right now. It's number one in the NFL. Yards per attempt. I used to think that was super important. Then I started thinking like, well, can it be a little misleading here? And Goff is number two in the NFL only behind Lamar Jackson. And that's always the one with Mahomes where you just can't believe how much that number keeps going down and down and down because he's changed the way he's played quarterback based on personnel and some of that other stuff.
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Todd McShay
Look, the game's tomorrow. The game's tomorrow. We're, we're here, we're prepping the show and, and it's a neutral site. They have to line up and play tomorrow. Who are you taking?
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Ryan Rossillo
I'm going to pick Kansas City.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, because you always do because Mahomes and you're always right. So.
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Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, but the fact I'm even thinking about it is like as much credit as I could give to another team because I'm with you. Like, as you said here, it feels like Detroit's the best team in the NFL, and yet Kansas, he's undefeated. We'll see what happens tonight. The whole thing, I think that itself is like a compliment. I really do. I don't know that you have to say I'd pick Detroit. You know, it was Detroit or the field. Well, of course you would. You would take the field. But the fact that it could even be a topic, I think is a credit to where they're at. Who and who they.
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Todd McShay
Who in the NFC scares you the most? There's competition.
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Ryan Rossillo
Well, I'd like to see Green Bay with a healthy Jordan Love. So I think that's an issue.
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Todd McShay
Does Washington scare you? Minnesota, Philly? I'm just. I'm not saying they're all good teams. I'm just curious.
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Ryan Rossillo
I don't know. I still think a healthy 49ers team is scarier to me than Washington, Philly or Minnesota. I just have a hard time quitting the 49ers then maybe that's ridiculous because they're not even playoffs. They know the 11 seed. Who do? Who would you pick? I mean, would you rather play Arizona or San Francisco? If you're Detroit right now, yeah.
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Todd McShay
Like today, maybe San Francisco, but. But where they're going to be at the end of the season, I would bet everything on. On San Francisco being better than Arizona.
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Ryan Rossillo
What about Washington?
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Todd McShay
It's hard, right? Washington's good, man. They're good. You know, Jaden Daniels is come back to earth a little bit, but not, you know, but like still dynamic. But they're a good football team. But I. If I like crystal balling it, I think San Fran has a better chance. There's a good chance to be better at the end of the year. Minnesota scares me. I think they're a damn good football team. I really do. I think they're there to like. Like, this is real.
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Ryan Rossillo
Well, I'm glad you said that because I'll admit that there was part of me watching the Colts game last night where they're down seven zip at half. I'm like, is this Minnesota story over? Based on the standard that we'd have for them, you know, the defense is rolling. Darnold's figured it out. They have the best wide receiver. You know, like, they get Hawkinson back.
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Todd McShay
Yep.
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Ryan Rossillo
And yet they're down seven zip. They've lost two games in a row.
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Todd McShay
God, that was a brutal first half.
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Ryan Rossillo
Right. And I was watching it going okay. The Lions won, no problem. Because we spent so much time already gushing about the Lions. The Rams won is weird because the Rams have been like, three different teams this year. But that didn't seem like it was some awful loss. Just, there's certain weeks where if you get Stafford on the wrong week, like, he might just beat you because he's been so good. But then when they're down 7, nothing, and I'm kind of doing some of my college football notes and everything, I'm sitting in my kitchen island, and I'm like, maybe this Minnesota thing is just kind of over. You don't think so, though?
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Todd McShay
No.
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Ryan Rossillo
Good.
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Todd McShay
No, I don't. I don't. I mean, you remember they lost to Detroit by two points.
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Ryan Rossillo
Yeah. I don't know.
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Todd McShay
Something to think about.
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Ryan Rossillo
Okay.
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Todd McShay
I think Philly can get out of its own way, but go ahead.
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Ryan Rossillo
I really like Philly the last month or so.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, I do, too, but I just. Do you trust them in a playoff environment against one of these teams? That's where I. I just. Here, I don't have a whole lot of trust.
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Ryan Rossillo
Here's what I would say, though. Like, of all these teams that we're constantly trying to figure out because it changes because of injuries and sometimes, like, interior linemen that we're not aware of, like, you know, they're on their third defensive tackle. You know, that kind of stuff, you're like, oh, okay, now I see why they're. When you're as talented as they are, then they are. Like, even the worst version of Hertz can't be, like, the best version of him. Was considered the best quarterback in the NFC going into just last year at the start of 23, after the Super bowl appearance in 22. So I would rather you have a bunch of dudes that I can still name that I still think are good, but maybe that's part of what's been misleading about the Eagles. Like, I just think that that team is more talented than. Than Washington is. Although Washington's front is really nasty right now.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, I like Philly. The talent is absolutely, like, undeniable.
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Ryan Rossillo
Okay.
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Todd McShay
I just wonder if they can get out of their own way when we get late in the season, playoffs, critical decisions, coaches putting team organizations in the right spot. Will they make the right decisions to allow all that talent to come to the top? That. That's. That's where my concern is.
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Ryan Rossillo
All right, can we talk about Trevor Lawrence?
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Todd McShay
Yeah.
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Ryan Rossillo
All right. So I spent a good chunk going through that last possession where he throws a pick on first down. That's like a fourth down throw. All right, you want to throw that on fourth down, fine. But like, they still have plenty of time left. They've moved the football. There's a chance they're going to pull this out. And I think he missed six of seven throws other than the first down. There's one that's a PI. You could argue that. That's why I think he might have missed the throw anyway, even with the PI. So maybe you can say two were fine. What, what is he. What. How did this happen? Because at least we know there's like real college stuff that was pretty good. And it felt like after his rough rookie year that so many really good quarterbacks have, there was a significant jump into his second year. Then you have Peterson. It's just there's even some numbers that tell you he's actually like, better than you would think, which is kind of crazy, some of the QBR stuff. But I think most of us watch it every week going, what. What is this guy like? What it. What happened?
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Todd McShay
You have to wonder is like, I'm starting to get worried. Let's put it this way. I'm starting to get worried that this is Trevor Lawrence, right? That his rookie year was just throw out the tape. His second year was getting in a system kind of seeing like the league seeing Trevor Lawrence in a system that's functional and taking time to catch up with it. Guys that I talk to in the league that have a better understanding, like defensive guys that like, understand, I get the strong sense that they feel like Doug Peterson's offense has peaked in terms of what they can do, what they can create. I don't think it's helping. I'm not saying it's a bad system or they. It can't be successful, but I do think there's some, some schematic things that are not, you know, necessarily putting Trevor Lawrence in the best position to win. But at the end of the day, like, we saw really good signs from him that second year. Last year we saw a quarterback that, that was battling injuries, didn't and didn't feel like himself and was kind of always behind the eight ball. And I was expecting this year to be a bounce back, to be quite honest. And I don't know that there's lingering injury effects. I think there's lingering mental effects. Here's what I see because I've studied this a lot, because it's frustrating when you have that high of a grade on a quarterback and for him to play this inconsistently and poorly like he has for this long of a period of time. You got to kind of check yourself, right? And so I see a quarterback that all of a sudden is like, not inconsistent, but really bad versus the blitz. And that's part scheme, it's part plan, you know what I mean? Like, not having the right plan and the right ways to navigate through that. But it's also, there's something in his brain that's not clicking and functioning the way it needs to, where it's causing enough disruption for him, where he doesn't trust where he's going with the ball, he doesn't trust what he's seeing. He doesn't have a confidence level in what his plan is to beat the blitz. And that's not something you expect to see with an NFL quarterback with the experience that he now has. Right? And so that's been frustrating to watch. Bigger picture. I just, I don't see a quarterback who's comfortable with his footwork, who's consistent with his footwork, who's, you know, it's like, it's more stuff that we talk about in college prospects than we do with NFL guys. How many times do you and I have a conversation about a four or five year veteran in the NFL at the quarterback position? Like, his footwork's a mess. It just doesn't happen a lot. You know what I mean? Like, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, we had that conversation coming out of Wyoming. Josh Allen, we had that conversation as a rookie. But now your full time job, with the support that you have with quarterback coaches, with the off seasons, you have, like, it gets to a point, right, Ryan? Like, it truly gets to a point. I guess like a shooter in the NBA, it gets to a point where your footwork and your shot are the same. Like, and now it's not about tweaking it and improving it, or like, it's about just drilling it over and over. So it's muscle memory and it's like, that's who I am. I don't know the. Like, I don't study the NBA like you do, but I, I would find it hard to believe. There are a lot of guys that five years into their career you're like, well, if he could just get his footwork and his base right and you know, he or is changing his shot. Like, I don't, I don't hear that a lot in NBA coverage, and I know you don't have that a lot with NFL quarterbacks. So the why is. The why behind it all is hard to pinpoint. Because I'M not in that building every day, and I don't know what's going on. And I'm not an NFL defensive coordinator who can sit and walk through, like, the minutia, but I do. But I am an evaluator, and I see the tape, and I see a quarterback that is dealing with footwork issues, fast brain, rushed process, lack of confidence in his plan and where his eyes should be, and that shows up on tape, and that shouldn't occur at this point in his career.
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Ryan Rossillo
Let's talk a little college. I left.
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Todd McShay
You didn't like that answer or just. It was so authoritative?
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Ryan Rossillo
No, I had nothing. Yeah, it was so good. I. Why would I even mess with it? I have nothing to add to it, but I do want to get some college ball in just because I think there's. There's a few games at least worth touching on. And the headline is Ohio State beats Penn State. You know, if somebody just wants to rail on Penn State there, I get it. My bigger issue is just now what happens where you're just going to be eligible, play for a national championship, perhaps without one significant win. But that's its own issue with the expansion of the playoffs. Congrats. But I mean, Penn State's in the game. Like, they should feel like there's some massive gap. It starts off great, and they don't convert the fourth down, which was. Which was the move at the time. But I didn't leave that thinking like, Penn State should be embarrassed. The problem is that it's just so repetitive for Franklin in this group against the best teams, that this is what happens whenever you play them, despite clearly feeling like you had a real chance, especially at the start of this game. So I didn't leave being like, oh, Penn State, these frauds. Because that'd be totally unfair. Yeah, but I. Along the line. Oh, you do? Okay, go for it.
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Todd McShay
I'm not saying frauds, but. But I left being like, shit. Like, if. If Will Howard doesn't make that one, One terrible decision and throw for the pick six. If Will Howard. And I loved what Will Howard did in the second half and the running and all the little things that he did. But if Will Howard doesn't. You know that the fumble in the end zone and that, like, there are, like two or three plays where if Ohio State made them or didn't make a mistake, I felt like it was lopsided. I felt Ohio State was faster. I felt Ohio State, honest to God, this was like a crowning jewel coaching moment for Chip Kelly, who doesn't need one. But my God, did they out scheme Penn State in this game. Offensively, like you got a, you got a lifelong, not just like a season, a lifelong left guard, you kick out to left tackle. You got a center who started last year but hasn't played much this year and has never played guard. Starting at left guard. And you're able to run the ball for like 149 with your two running backs and you're able to out scheme Penn State the way they did. Like, how about the, like Tate, the wide receiver for Ohio State opened that. That could have been a touchdown if Will Howard was on. So those three plays, Will Howard bad pick six early in the game, Will Howard with the fumble into the end zone and then Will Howard missing a wide open receiver and throwing Tate like three yards out of bounds instead of leading him to a touchdown. Like that changes the whole game, buddy. Ohio State was significantly better coached. They significantly out schemed Penn State. Defensively, they were faster on both sides of the ball, more athletic. I don't know, I just saw a huge gap and it wasn't Ohio State's best game. They played a great game. You know, when it was all said and done, they. Defensively, that's the best game I've seen this year. Kind of what we've been waiting for all year long. Like Ignoso, like at cornerback. Denzel Burke played well. The pass rush, they mixed it up. Like they played really good on all three levels on the, on the defensive side for Ohio State. But. But to me, I don't know, I just, I walked away from it being like, yeah, the score was close. One score, all that, but a few different plays and Ohio State wins this one by like 21.
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Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, I guess I can't really push back on that. You're right. It's just that I think it's one of those games where towards the end of it they still had a chance. Like the fact they still had a chance against the team historically, that there's a lot of these games where I've left going, okay, there's a gap, there's a gap. And maybe you still feel that because we're not used to Ohio State's defense showing up like this. I completely agree as far as like Day and Kelly afterwards, the way they were celebrating on the field, like how much this meant to them, knowing how they had to put this thing together and then Howard kind of running away with it. I think that last drive made him feel like a little bit more physical than they have throughout. A lot of times this season, and that's why they were so fired up to convert all those first downs. Franklin is now gone 95 and 40 at Penn State. He's 16, 33 in the Big Ten. And we could go through a bunch of that stuff and say, okay, well, who you're playing, like, is it a Franklin problem in your opinion?
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Todd McShay
Oof. I always ask myself this question. Who are they going to get to that's going to make them better? I am not a James Franklin guy and I'm not here to explain all the reasons why I think they're capped out with James Franklin. But I also, like, I'm a realist. I'm not like, I'm not the lunatic fringe as Herb street always talk about. I'm not the 10, 15% that like screams the loudest. I try to be very rational about this and I'm like, all right, who's going to come in and make this better? He obviously recruits extremely well. They obviously run a really good organization, if you will. They win almost every game. They should win and they should win almost every game they play because they are getting talent there. But it very, like, if it wasn't, if it wasn't Saturday, then when, you know what I mean, like Ohio State comes in with a, with a terrible left tackle situation, terrible left side of their offensive line situation. They, they come in with a defense that wasn't playing, you know, up to the level that you expected. You're playing at home, you got your quarterback is back. And by the way, it wasn't like, well, if aller was just 100%, like he had three runs and climbed the pocket that first drive, like it was not a lack of mobility at quarterback. In fact, when they brought in our guy Prabula, that kind of set back that first drive, right? So I didn't get a sense that it was circumstance or injury or anything like that. It was just Ohio State was a better football team, more talented, better coached. And so if the goal, and obviously the goal is to take that next step as a program, you better have someone who can come in and do all the things that Franklin's been able to do, but it then is able to take that next step. And I don't, I don't know who that guy is.
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Ryan Rossillo
Georgia beats Florida. They were losing at halftime, down 13 6. The game was 20, 20 and then it was 34, 20 in a very short amount of time. But these Carson Beck interceptions, Todd, are brutal. Like, they're not, they're not like, oh, you know, something could it just. You're not, you're not seeing the, you're not seeing the extra guy, like there's another dude over there near the throw. And you know, they can be number two in the country here and maybe they still win the whole thing, but God, you can't imagine they're going to escape the SEC title game in the playoffs if he keeps playing like this. And Florida's, you know, look, Florida's down lag way he gets knocked out. They're bringing in another freshman quarterback that nobody's heard of from Yale. Florida's been more competitive here that I think than maybe people realize. So even though their record and the spread and all that kind of stuff, you're like, oh, Georgia should just kill this team. The beck part of it for who Georgia is supposed to be the rest of the way is probably the headline for me. Even though they got the win.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, it's one of the headlines in college football. Like you cut, you enter the year with a, with an experienced quarterback where everyone's talking about he very well could be the first quarterback taken in the 2025 NFL Draft. You see some mistakes early on, you think, well, they're going to correct this. And you keep watching on Saturdays and you keep seeing the same mistakes just can't happen, man. And there's no turning away from it. There's no benching him and bringing somebody else in. He's your guy and you've got to ride with it. But like three more interceptions, 11 interceptions on the season, four multiple interception games. You can excuse away an interception or bad, a bad decision here and there, but at this point it's beyond a pattern, it's beyond a trend. And that's frightening because Georgia is good enough up front. Offensively, Georgia is good enough defensively, Georgia does not have elite weapons at wide receiver, but they've got enough talent. I, you know, that first interception, it's like I made the analogy like when you're going to take a left onto like a busy road or like a two lane highway and you're trying to get on. Like you look left and there's no car coming. You look right, there's no car coming. But then you always kind of peek back left as you're, as you're starting to make the turn left under the busy road. It's like he looked left, he looked right, but he didn't do that last peek back to see the oncoming 90 mile an hour car that's racing out of nowhere. That's what happened. He got caught. The 6 foot 2 cornerback, number 28, makes the interception that's on Carson Beck. The second interception, I swear to you, could have been picked off by at least two people. Two defenders, maybe the third who was in trail coverage. Terrible decision. There are times where it's like, is he just careless? There are other times where I'm like, is he just locked on too much? Where he's predetermined. And when you start combining all those thoughts that you have when you're studying his tape, the ant. The. What's the bottom line? The bottom line is he's just not seeing the whole field and he's not making sound decisions with the ball. And so now if I'm the offensive coordinator, if I'm kirby smart, like, we now have to plan for this. We have to work. This is a workaround situation. We cannot trust our quarterback to and put him in positions where he's allowed to make these mistakes because the first five or six, it's on him. The next four or five, like, we should be working to try to correct it. You get to 11 interceptions in a season at this point. We just turned the calendar over to November and now it's on. The coaching staff moving forward, they have to game plan around this because it's not going to change. It just. It doesn't appear like it's going to change. And that's. That's a scary place to be when you come into the season and one of the strengths of your entire team is supposed to be your quarterback.
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Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, it was great to see Nate Frazier get the bulk of the carries because I just, I feel like there's been times this year with him, the freshman running back, where I was like, I'm surprised they're not giving him a little bit more. And I get it because, you know, Trevor Etienne is the other guy getting the carries and he's been kind of in and out going back to the beginning of the year.
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Todd McShay
They're different when he's in, though, I'll say that. When ETN is in. Yeah.
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Ryan Rossillo
Oh, you like ETN better?
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Todd McShay
I do, but I, I see the talent, Frazier. But I think if you have both of them healthy, that that's, that's when you're rolling and that's. That will, is my guess, will be a big part of the plan to kind of overcome what's happened at quarterback.
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Ryan Rossillo
Did you have anything else on? Like, who would you. Who would you pick Miami against National championship, Oregon or Miami to.
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Todd McShay
When? Yeah, Oregon.
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Ryan Rossillo
Georgia.
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Todd McShay
Georgia, because of the defense. But I'd be less confident.
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Ryan Rossillo
Miami, Ohio State, Ohio State, Miami. Texas, Texas, Miami, Penn State, Miami. Okay, so it took us getting to the sixth team in the country before we found a win there. Tennessee at 6 in the coaches poll still sort of shocks me.
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Todd McShay
Why do you even read that?
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Ryan Rossillo
Well, there's seven in the AP as well. I mean, look, I'm just in anticipation of all the results that we're getting tomorrow.
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Todd McShay
Here's what I think we're going to see here.
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Ryan Rossillo
Okay.
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Todd McShay
It's tomorrow night. We know Oregon's gonna be 1, Ohio State, Georgia will be 2, 3. I think Miami will be at 4. I think you could make an argument for BYU at 5, but I think it'll probably be Texas. Then you get down to. So that would be 5, 6 for me. Texas, BYU, you can put them however you want. I think it'll be Texas. Then you get to seven. I think it would be Penn State. I think that's as far as they'll drop. I don't necessarily agree with it. I. But I. But yeah, I think that's a comfortable spot. Penn State, seven. I would go Tennessee at eight. So Tennessee eight. Then. Then to me, it gets interesting right now.
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Ryan Rossillo
It's like really weird, but you seem to be definitive on Tennessee better than Indiana.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, yeah, I do. Cause I have eyes and I've watched football for a long time and I love it. Like, you can't take away anything that Signetti has done. But what was I reading? I don't think they have they beaten anyone. Has a. I don't know, some. Something weird. Like Nebraska is the only team with a winning record currently that they've beaten, And Nebraska is 5 and 4. Something like that.
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Ryan Rossillo
So the strength of schedule still on the. Some of the football ranking, stuff like, you know, somebody can hear this from Bloomington and go, no, that's not. That's not accurate. And it's like. Well, it. Actually, you can look, their strength of schedule is still so far behind everybody else's, like, way behind. I mean, even BYU is like 61. Indiana, I have it at 103 this morning.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, it's going to be interesting because now you're. Let's just. Let's say Tennessee's at eight, right?
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Ryan Rossillo
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
I think Notre Dame could very well be nine ahead of Boise State. Boise State. To me, like that loss to Oregon, that was only three points, right?
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Ryan Rossillo
Was it three?
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Todd McShay
I think it was only three. That was close. And so now all of a sudden, like that.
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Ryan Rossillo
Yeah. 37, 34.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, man. Like, that's. That's impressive. That's a great loss. So I think Notre Dame, Boise, then I would have Indiana, like 11 and then the 12th spot. And it doesn't matter now. We get a lot of football to play. But if. But if we were to do this, I think I would throw in Alabama at that spot, but not feel. Not have tremendous confidence in it, but that's how I think it's going to roll some. Something like that. And they certainly.
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Ryan Rossillo
What about smu?
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Todd McShay
I would have them on the outside looking in, but they. We're not going to have. Yeah, I would have them outside looking in.
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Ryan Rossillo
I guess I just don't want to default to. To Bama again, you know, Like, I was just supposed to put them 12 here, and that's what they did in the polls, which I also kind of understand. But it's like, are you picking Bama, saying, oh, well, you know, Bama would still beat Indiana. Bama would still beat all these teams. It's like, okay, maybe they would. I know they'd be favored in some of this stuff, but what are we doing? Are we picking this year's Bama? Are we picking the last 10 years Bama? And that's likely what's happening here with the voters again. And we'll see if the committee who.
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Todd McShay
I'm picking a Bama team that. That worked over Georgia and has talent and has a quarterback that, when he's right, is a freak.
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Ryan Rossillo
I can't. I can't push back on that a ton. I can't. But I think I went with Boise just because of. Just because I don't have anything else to add to it. And in the AP, it's flipped. It's Bama 11, Boise 12. And who knows? This could be a template that has nothing.
- [60:10]
Todd McShay
I think Boise.
- [60:11]
Ryan Rossillo
Boise is higher.
- [60:12]
Todd McShay
I could see Boise in the top 10 when the rankings come out.
- [60:15]
Ryan Rossillo
All right, well, that'll be tomorrow. I'm excited. That's Todd McShay again. Check out the McShay show ringer feed wherever you get your podcasts. Saturday night recap. Everything is an awesome pod. People already love it. Tuesdays and Thursdays. What else you get going on this week? Anything.
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Todd McShay
Saturday Night Live, it's our own version. Saturday Night Live.
- [60:34]
Ryan Rossillo
We're.
- [60:35]
Todd McShay
We are going live finally on that show. I'm excited about it. Live on YouTube and Spotify. I believe so.
- [60:42]
Ryan Rossillo
Oh, nice.
- [60:43]
Todd McShay
Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna try it out. Try not to screw it up. You have an open invitation. I'm sure you'll come on, like one More time where it's beneficial to you. And it's like, you know, like the playoff or some. Some big night, but. But open invitation to Rossello. It'll probably just be mention I. And we're excited for it. I mean, just think about lsu, Bama coming up. Like, I'd love to be in Baton Rouge, but coming off that game. Herbie Fowler sign off, like, the second the game's over, we jump in. Like, where else would you rather be? Talking ball.
- [61:15]
Ryan Rossillo
Maybe I'll call in from the sideline.
- [61:17]
Todd McShay
Oh, you're going to be there.
- [61:18]
Ryan Rossillo
Dude, I go every year.
- [61:22]
Todd McShay
Are you really? Now I'm pissed. Now it doesn't seem so excited sitting in my. In my home talking about the game. Where are you going to eat?
- [61:32]
Ryan Rossillo
We're doing Brandon's supper club, I think Thursday and Friday night and then, you know, just take it from there. Hooked up at the casino. Should be fun.
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Todd McShay
That's a great way. I'm going to talk about that in the show this week. That's a scouting delight, because the Saints are home on Sunday.
- [61:53]
Ryan Rossillo
I can't do the Saints. I can't do the Saints. Lsu. I've done it before. It's. It's a big ask. It's a big ask.
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Todd McShay
Yeah. It's tough to peel yourself, you know, out of that.
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Ryan Rossillo
I'm actually gonna come back. I'm gonna. I haven't done this in a while, but I'm so sick of doing it. The last couple years where I would go to these SEC schools for the game, but then I would just be so worried about missing the NFL on Sunday that I would just do all NFL Sundays. And then I would tape my pod on Monday from the hotel room. And then I would get back to LA at like a Monday night. And the last couple times I've done it, there was no reason to really even be depressed. I just was bummed out. And I'm like, eating at some strip mall, watching Sunday night football, taking notes and then getting up and, like, working out at a hotel gym and checking your flight. And you're like, you're still there. You're still there in the SEC town, and everybody's been gone now for like 48 hours, and you're sitting there doing life advice at, like 3:00 in the afternoon when you're the one who really.
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Todd McShay
Needs the life advice at that point.
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Ryan Rossillo
Right? Yeah. Right. So we're trying something a little different this time. I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to get back Sunday morning, so going for it. Big Boy, departure, like, early. Yeah, early.
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Todd McShay
Just out of where?
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Ryan Rossillo
Baton Rouge.
- [63:06]
Todd McShay
That's aggressive.
- [63:07]
Ryan Rossillo
Atlanta, lax.
- [63:09]
Todd McShay
But that just ruins set. Like, what are you doing?
- [63:12]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, but I'll be able to pull it off. I can tape everything and then get back here. And then I'll just stay up getting caught up on all the games. Like, I totally can do it. Just instead of starting at 10am I'll start at 2, and instead of being done at 8, I'll be done at midnight. And then we'll rip it right back. Yeah.
- [63:27]
Todd McShay
All right, well, enjoy the weekend. All right.
- [63:29]
Ryan Rossillo
Thanks, Todd. Enjoy your week, not just the weekend. That's Todd McShay. You want details?
- [63:39]
Todd McShay
Bye.
- [63:40]
Ryan Rossillo
I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up?
- [63:46]
Kyle
I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork.
- [63:48]
Ryan Rossillo
I have every toy you can possibly imagine.
- [63:51]
Todd McShay
And best of all, kids, I am liquid.
- [63:54]
Saruti
So now you know what's possible.
- [63:56]
Todd McShay
Let me tell you what's required.
- [63:58]
Ryan Rossillo
Life Advice, lifeadvicerrmail.com We've got Kyle and Saruti.
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Kyle
Yep.
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Ryan Rossillo
What's going on?
- [64:06]
Saruti
Johnny's are back. That's about all I've. Is there any other news going on?
- [64:09]
Ryan Rossillo
No one has more Johnny's gear than you do. Get a ton of Johnny's gear.
- [64:13]
Saruti
Hey, next week we're playing Quinnipiac.
- [64:14]
Kyle
Steve, let's go. Somebody tweeted at me that. Somebody tweeted at me that there was like a shout out in the press box pod. So I'll have to go back and listen to it. I do listen to the pod that they said that they needed help with the Quinnipiac poll, so I guess they do. I might be the expert, so I'll have to call in.
- [64:29]
Saruti
Get on that.
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Ryan Rossillo
Dude, did you take a lot of pride in that poll?
- [64:34]
Kyle
You know what's kind of crazy? Initially, yes. Because when you tell people where you went to school, you want people to know where you went. And, you know, Quinnipiac's a little obscure school in the northeast. Shout out to Hampden, Connecticut. But that's actually a work study job. I didn't personally do it, but I had a bunch of buddies that did work study where they would call up, you know, cold, call random people, undecided voters, and just ask them questions, which feels like I need to know more about that. I'm, like, mad that I didn't do it. That seems like it could have been kind of fun.
- [65:02]
Saruti
It's nice that you have a claim to fame. When I say I go to Potsdam, people are like, the Potsdam. Good am I. Right. That's all I got.
- [65:08]
Ryan Rossillo
That's all they have for Potsdam.
- [65:10]
Saruti
The high school mascot was the Stoners, by the way. Unironically, like a guy who, like, breaks stones.
- [65:16]
Kyle
That's actually kind of awesome.
- [65:17]
Saruti
Pretty funny. Yeah. Dudes were walking around with Potsdam. Stoner scare.
- [65:20]
Ryan Rossillo
Pretty good.
- [65:21]
Kyle
Is that. That's like the USC Cox hat. South Carolina. Everybody had that hat back in the day.
- [65:25]
Ryan Rossillo
Yep, I had it.
- [65:28]
Kyle
So did I.
- [65:33]
Ryan Rossillo
You go to a Dave show. Here's your South Carolina hat.
- [65:35]
Kyle
Yep.
- [65:39]
Ryan Rossillo
All right. All right. What do we got here? Denver Live pod. We're getting a lot of these, so let's just put them all to bed right now. I'm a photographer based in Denver. I have shot live concerts and sports. Would love to shoot the live pod at the Fillmore. I do it for super cheap or free. I mean, I listen to every pod for free, so it's only fair. I'd also be sure to only share flattering angles of Ursula. Let me know if you might be interested. Happy to talk about it more. Share some of my work.
- [66:05]
Todd McShay
P.S.
- [66:06]
Ryan Rossillo
Kyle, I played lacrosse with Zo. Hey. Slew. And am a normal person. He can confirm. Hmm. Slew. Shout outs. It's Bill's pot. It's not mine, so I have nothing to do with it. I'm just sort of there.
- [66:22]
Saruti
If you're going and you want to take photos of me after, that'd be cool. Need some photos for the family calendar this year.
- [66:28]
Kyle
Christmas.
- [66:29]
Ryan Rossillo
So what is that just. What's what?
- [66:31]
Saruti
I'm just saying, if he's gonna go anyway, like, you know, after I'm really going there to push the button, it sounds like. And then put the pot up later so I'm, you know, I'm gonna be free afterwards.
- [66:41]
Ryan Rossillo
That kind of sounds like it would suck for him. Whatever. You just asked if you'd be interested in doing a solo shoot.
- [66:48]
Saruti
Well, just, like, out and about, like.
- [66:49]
Ryan Rossillo
Maybe the crowd, like, in the alley.
- [66:51]
Saruti
I don't know, with your.
- [66:52]
Ryan Rossillo
Your arms folded.
- [66:54]
Saruti
I have been doing the arms folded thing. I've been liking the way the results have been coming with the arms folded. Anyway, we can talk off air.
- [67:02]
Kyle
I love that. I love the idea of, like, hey, we hired this photographer to shoot the show. Oh, like, you know what? What does Bill want? Does he want this? Oh, no, he's just going to shoot Kyle on the job.
- [67:15]
Saruti
I'm just saying, if you're going anyway.
- [67:19]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, but I don't think that's what he wants to do. I was surprised. Yeah. I don't Know, I was surprised how like down you were for your own photo shoot.
- [67:28]
Saruti
Well, don't get a lot of offers. That's all I'm saying. Get it when you fit in.
- [67:31]
Ryan Rossillo
That's fair.
- [67:32]
Saruti
Yeah, you miss all the shots you don't take. Didn't Michael Scott say that?
- [67:37]
Ryan Rossillo
I think Wayne Gretzky said it. Than Michael Scott said right. True. Okay, sports journalism. Current personal trainer, 34, 510£200, 550 deadlift, 500 pound squat 365 bench press lookout seems high. Former professional MMA fighter and former football player. So look out. I'm a die hard Chicago Bulls fan. The last few years I started a Twitter account strictly for my Bulls thoughts and it's taken off into a nice little following. A couple of months ago I was asked by a sports site to write content for them about the Bulls. My problem is they seem to want bubblegum content, small six paragraph articles on whatever trade rumor or bullshit thing is in the news that day. I want to do in depth analysis. Write pieces breaking down exactly what the Bulls miss about Alex Caruso's defense or break down the reasons why Patrick Williams looks like a bust. I want to write the kind of articles that talk days, if not weeks to really break down what's going on. The kind of articles you used to see on Grantlin. This site has no interest in this. On these kinds of pieces. Is there any appetite for those types of articles anymore? Is that side of journalism dead? Would I be better off starting my own blog or podcast? Well, I was going to say.
- [68:49]
Kyle
Do you own a microphone?
- [68:51]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, I mean look, I, I think you're. It's great that that's what you want to do. I don't know that's what the audience wants anymore. I cannot believe how quickly Google and just the time from pre. Well, I would say researching the preview stuff for the over unders for the 2324 season versus the 2425 season. How bad Google was and what it was drawing me towards and all of the articles that exactly like you're talking about, like you would actually click on. And most of the times I can kind of weed it out before I even click where I'm like, I don't think this is a real place and it'll be somebody's picture and there's like a byline and then it's supposedly totally real. And it would just be like five places where Lonzo ball could go. And if you look, you know, Lakers was drafted there, Charlotte brother plays there, Golden State potential help with curry injury, Miami always in the market for talent. And then it would just. Then it's over. The fucking article is over. And I had Googled like last time Lonzo Ball played or whatever. Now, granted, I could just look it up on a game log, but the traffic now, whatever it was, and like Bleacher Report was ahead of this before anybody else. It was kind of like the first fake podcast number where because everything was a slideshow, their numbers just dominated. So then every time you went to look for anything sports related, it was just going to Bleach report because he was getting the highest hit rate. But it also took you, you had to click 12 fucking times to read the article. Now granted, they ended up hiring like some real people, but in the beginning it was just, let's do the slideshow thing that's different than everybody else, and then our numbers are going to be through the roof. And I think it worked out for all those people the same way it's worked out for some in podcasting. But when I'm taught like, you're right, the guy writing in is totally right. And it's really, really frustrating. But it would appear to be a result of what I, what I always talk about. Like, the audience really is to blame for the product that they get because it seems like people click on that shit more than they were going to click on any of the long form stuff. But I can't believe how quickly when you're trying to look up like something from a couple seasons ago or you're trying to find the right stat for what's the record. So much of it is just totally wrong. And then the rest of it will be just, I said a word and here's a word and whatever those most popular thing in the last week, like, if you wanted to try to find any Carl Anthony Towns information, good luck finding anything that would be more than just a couple months ago from the trade to now, it gets just nuts.
- [71:28]
Saruti
So, I mean, I don't, I think this stuff is probably changing as, you know, the way people get their stuff and what they care about changing. But do you think this is almost part of the, part of the storyline now of like your arc about doing the thing you actually want to do? Is this like the beginning part where it's just like you're not going to like it, but you just like, you do it? Like, is that if this is what you want and you want to talk and analyze sports and the most jobs there are writing this, I don't know, could be AI stuff That is kind of garbage, but that's what's out there. Like, is that like the beginning? Is that like, you know, if you want to be a bartender, maybe you start as a dishwasher or, you know, you want to be a server, you just do that for a little bit. Is that you think that's like the new norm? Sort of, yeah.
- [72:08]
Kyle
It's like Chris Evans, like, you got to do not another teen movie before you start doing, you know, for your Captain America.
- [72:14]
Saruti
Right. Because he's just like, are people going to look at you differently when you're trying to go for your next job and you still keep the Twitter account and it's going well and you're like, oh, but he also wrote for this website that's, you know, nothing. Like, I, I don't think it would damage you as much as he's worried about. Right. It's probably, it's probably good that, like, you're going in the right direction in this, you know, increasingly harder to be successful at thing. I don't know, maybe, maybe it's not.
- [72:36]
Kyle
Increasingly harder, but it sounds like he doesn't, he's not just like, hey, I. I want to write no matter what. It's like, hey, I want to write this specific thing. So I don't think he, you know, I think he could still do that. It's just going to take way longer to grow and it's going to be harder and it's going to be more of a grind where you can probably get that instant gratification, as Kyle said right away. If you do the stu want to do at first and then grow into it. But you know, you never know if that payoff's even going to be there. So it's like, is it worth it or is it not worth it?
- [73:02]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, yeah. I mean, here's the thing. I would ask, how important is this to you? Because it sounds like it's not so important that you're going to do the paying your dues phase that Kyle was kind of alluding to here. Like, you don't want to do any of that stuff. Like, if you cared about it so much, then maybe you do that for a little while. But if you're going to just not enjoy it, I would say just keep doing your thing and just tell the people. No, But I think the real shame in all of this is that the number of times I will see, that's why I still religiously will read Ringer with some of the long form stuff. And then the athletic has a lot of really good long form stuff. But whenever you're googling something now for just hey, what's going on with this team? Or I want to see what's going on there. It's just this. It's mostly terrible and I won't even know who the person is 90% of the time. Like who the fuck wrote this? And it's. There's just nothing to it. There's nothing to it whatsoever. But I think those are the things that get the clicks. So that's why you're being asked to write those. So anyway, you're gonna have to figure out what's important to you because maybe not writing those and being annoyed is still more important than growing whatever it is that you're trying to grow. So. All right, let's see here. Girlfriend texted X. Been an RR fan since day one. Used to listen to him in SVP walking around Ohio State's campus back in 09. She doesn't listen. You can keep it all in. All right. Six six. Nice. 235 Dirk mainly because I was the tallest person in my small town I grew up in and could shoot elbow and baseline fadeaways and wing threes were my specialty. All star gains and some D3 offers. Started a new job recently TA for regional company Gig is great. Doing well on salary now compared to commission based sales where I also did well free trips to Cancun profit shares. Quit my job and had to go to Indy for training on the new one. When I was gone my girlfriend of four years and I got into an argument. I wasn't drinking at the time but she was and then went off on me for breaking her trash can. Where there's no proof that I did became a huge argument and then the next day everything was fine. Got home and a month later she was super sketchy about her phone. She's never been like that. We live in a big college town, Columbus, Ohio and her brother played there back in the day. It was driving me nuts so I went through her Apple watch and found she was texting her ex who lives in Cali. Boy, this guy doesn't care. He wants us to share all of it. All right, that she was there for seven years before moving back to Ohio. When she met me, I asked her when she last talked to him. She said she couldn't remember. It's clearly a lie. He's 2500 miles away so I'm not threatened. But her mom lives there so she could easily go see him. She also texted the guy who she didn't Say anything wrong to, but he was clearly flirting with her. Wanted cool off with the keyboard scene. What's that mean?
- [76:01]
Saruti
I have no idea. I. I hate that. I don't know, but I don't know.
- [76:05]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, I need you guys. We live together, have a condo. I don't know if I can trust her, though. And I would stay in Columbus. I graduated. She wants me to propose and wants to start a family, but I don't know if I can trust her. What would you do? It's a lot of stuff, but it doesn't seem like it's that serious. This is all because of a fucking garbage can, man. Must have been one hell of a receptacle.
- [76:28]
Saruti
Well, it's. It sounds like he's, you know, he's with somebody, that when they drink, like, certain things aren't off the table. That's what it sounds like. Maybe it's a fight. Slams the door. You're in separate rooms. And she pulls out her phone and fires something off. I don't know. And then maybe she zooms out the next day and she's like, oh, what the fuck? So maybe that's the kind of person that she is. And I think there's a lot more of those people out there than you want to admit or that those people would want to admit. So it might not be that she's a devious person, but if she, you know, she gets into some extracurriculars and then, you know, bad ideas become not so bad ideas. That's maybe what it sounds like. So I don't know.
- [77:13]
Kyle
Wait, just for clarification.
- [77:15]
Ryan Rossillo
What?
- [77:15]
Kyle
Do we know what the texts were to the guy? We just. We just saw that there were text messages.
- [77:21]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, well, she said that one guy was definitely flirting with her. The second guy wasn't that big of a deal. Got home some sketchy, was driving me nuts. Found it. She was texting her ex. I asked her what. So she lied about talking to him. So it wasn't. He didn't even say necessarily what was in there. Yeah, I mean, it depends on what's in there. Hey, I'm gonna meet up or whatever. Or like, this guy sucks. I don't want to live with him anymore. He smashed my trash can. I mean, there's. There's levels to it. Now. Some people would see it as, like, a complete betrayal just to be talking to anybody. I think kind of is. Yeah.
- [77:59]
Saruti
There's a case to be made.
- [78:00]
Kyle
There's a case.
- [78:01]
Saruti
But, you know, they live in the same. Thomas, they live in the same town as the mom, maybe she. Maybe she always liked Derek and she's just like, you know, I saw Derek the other day. He helped me put my AC in. I don't know.
- [78:12]
Ryan Rossillo
Derek sounds like a solid guy in the most part.
- [78:15]
Saruti
Yeah. You could make a case to be like, yeah, you shouldn't be messing around with this type of stuff.
- [78:18]
Ryan Rossillo
Okay, but would you not marry a person because of this?
- [78:23]
Saruti
Well, I feel like.
- [78:23]
Kyle
I feel like this is always the case where, you know, we obviously don't know this person. How out of character is this for her? You know, if there are there other things, is there a reason that you went to her phone? Because she was acting sketchy? Like, have you suspected something like this before? If this is totally out of nowhere and not like her, then I think you kind of let it slide as like a kind of a one off thing. Maybe she was having a bad night. She really liked that. Maybe it was a two in one. Maybe there's a recycling situation going on in that trash can. Could have been awesome. There's one right next to me. I love it.
- [78:50]
Saruti
If somebody messed with that $150 simple human.
- [78:53]
Kyle
Yeah, that's what it is. Well, yeah, you know, you get the. We got it on sale at Bed Bath and Beyond when they're going was 150 bucks. But it is a nice one. But, yeah, like, but if she's done this before and you, like, don't trust her, then yeah, like, that's a. This might be the beginning of the end. So it depends on, like, we don't have all the information here, but you have to ask yourself, like, do, like, all right, is this just like one blip of like, not trusting or is there a habit of her kind of going behind your back on things that I need to maybe be a little bit more aware of and take a little bit more seriously?
- [79:22]
Saruti
And the question also was like, not like, you know, am I in the wrong here? Should I. It was like, I'm thinking about marrying this person. What do you think about marriage? Some guys get married six, seven times. Other guys will never do it because they're just like, I can't. I can't imagine. So if you're so like, there's definitely a spectrum for how you feel about marriage.
- [79:38]
Ryan Rossillo
And if six or seven times, you.
- [79:40]
Saruti
Know, I mean, some guys. You don't think there's guys out there in their 70s who are on their, you know, their sixth marriage? I think so.
- [79:46]
Kyle
Yeah. Those people are really throwing off the stats too, by the way, because that's.
- [79:49]
Saruti
What I mean, I was just giving you, you know, the polar opposites here.
- [79:52]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, I get you. I got you. So imagine getting divorced five times and then being like, yeah, I'll do this again.
- [79:58]
Saruti
I can't imagine inviting people that. I can't imagine throwing that many weddings.
- [80:02]
Kyle
You can. How many times can you get divorced before you could actually have, like, a normal wedding, too? Because I've had this conversation with. With some friends who have, you know, who've. Not three times, but twice. It's like, all right, how many weddings do you really get in your life? Can you be excited about the third one? Like, do you do the whole ensemble and you bite the 150?
- [80:19]
Ryan Rossillo
Do you have friends that have twice already?
- [80:22]
Kyle
I think, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But, like, I know people who are in that situation would just keep it vague. And it's like, man, we're gonna do the wedding thing again.
- [80:30]
Saruti
At that point, I think just your family comes. I think it's.
- [80:34]
Kyle
I think you just. I wouldn't want anybody around. I'd be like, hey, guys, we're married. Just.
- [80:37]
Saruti
Yeah, this is embarrassing, actually. Like, I don't.
- [80:39]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, I think you're totally right on that.
- [80:41]
Saruti
Guys could be taking bets at my fucking third wedding. Right?
- [80:44]
Ryan Rossillo
Like, this person's such a fucking narcissist. Like, what is this 250 plus black tie affair, like, your fourth time, huh?
- [80:54]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [80:54]
Ryan Rossillo
You really like these, huh? Yeah. I don't know if we helped a ton there. Very little. Nope, nope. I don't know. Just to sound.
- [81:06]
Kyle
Do you confront her, though? I mean, I guess. I guess maybe throw that out there.
- [81:09]
Ryan Rossillo
You already know she's lied. Yeah, that sort of sucks. But he did go through her stuff, which we're not usually a fan of here. I think the only time I've really felt good about saying maybe check it out. Was when the guy's wife and kids went missing. Right, Ed?
- [81:24]
Kyle
Reasonable.
- [81:24]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah. I think that one was like, maybe I'll. Maybe I'll just peruse here and see if there's a. A clue.
- [81:30]
Kyle
I hate to break this rule.
- [81:33]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, that one. I'm like, yeah, I think. I think that would be fine. Did I tell you guys about the time when a friend of mine called me but didn't realize they had called me and they were in the car with my ex talking about me? And so I answered the. I answered the phone.
- [81:49]
Kyle
How does this happen? This is another example of, like, the. Like, this. Like, this is the only thing that would happen to Ryan.
- [81:55]
Saruti
It's that talk to Tech right there. I don't know what that is.
- [81:58]
Ryan Rossillo
No, it was a call. The call came in and I answered it and then I could just hear two people talking about me. And then I knew. And then I heard my ex say something like, well, I wanted to move and. And I was like, do you really want to listen to this? I'm like, you're going to get some answers to stuff. You're going to get some long. They're going to be a bunch of mysteries solved and perhaps a few mysteries added to the to do list.
- [82:22]
Kyle
It's good intel though.
- [82:23]
Ryan Rossillo
But the scouting, I went.
- [82:24]
Kyle
Future.
- [82:25]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, I just went. I'm not gonna.
- [82:26]
Saruti
Do you really have time or energy to get to the bottom of this?
- [82:29]
Ryan Rossillo
Wow. It was. It was like a good eight seconds and I was like, are you. What are you gonna get out of this?
- [82:35]
Kyle
Did you ever tell them?
- [82:38]
Ryan Rossillo
I told my friend. I didn't tell the ex.
- [82:40]
Kyle
Yeah, yeah.
- [82:42]
Ryan Rossillo
She was like, you hung up. Yeah.
- [82:45]
Saruti
Power move though. I think you got a little of your power back by doing that.
- [82:49]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [82:49]
Ryan Rossillo
Then it was kind of like, did you hang up so you could tell me you hung up? So you sounded cool, like thought about it. What is that? Bottom line is a hung up. Let's do one more. Whatever. 62195 player compromise. Don't have any impressive gym staffs, but I love my bicep pump. Good for you. 24 years old, I have some trouble finding balance in my life. A little background. I graduated college four months ago and as of a month ago was accepted in medical school because of my goal of being a physician. One day I sort of turned into a lone wolf when I started college. Constantly studying, working on this goal. Now that I'm done with school, I've realized how closed off I was for the last four years. I barely have any friends and don't have very many hobbies other than hitting the gym and watching games. I wanted to ask you guys what suggestions you might have for someone in my position. When you guys look back, do you wish you had been more social and gotten to know more people, or would you have rather stayed focused on the grind? I imagine the answer is a mix of the two. Any advice would be much appreciated. I just wanted to hear what you guys think is the most important, important things to focus on at my age. No. I did go to byu, so going out and going to the bars isn't really an option. Haha. Go Cougs. I don't see an issue with any of this. Med school's tough, man. Like, there were guys in pre med at UVM that we didn't see all the time, and that blew our minds. Like, there was one engineering guy in the group and he couldn't really do anything, just constantly engineering. And then some of the pre med guys. Like, it wasn't until the very end of a semester that you would see them. So you've made a massive commitment. Unless you're just so gifted, and I don't even know how that works, but you're just so gifted that you sort of just get it all. You get everything and then you don't have. I think that's probably fairly rare, so.
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Saruti
And the B are your. Interesting wrinkle, right? I mean, how much fun would you really have had?
- [84:44]
Ryan Rossillo
Intramural sports?
- [84:46]
Saruti
No, I'm not saying.
- [84:48]
Kyle
Yeah, I mean, Jimmer would tell you he had. He had a great time, but I. This is the age. I mean, the cool thing is you're going to be a doctor. So I guess, like, you know, most people who are bummed out about their college experience also don't have a doctor doctorate. So that's awesome. But I guess it's like the just being a doctor and having no friends outweigh not having an awesome college experience.
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Saruti
I want to have friends with it. Be friends with a doctor, though. I don't know. Maybe.
- [85:10]
Kyle
I would agree.
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Saruti
Maybe. Remember how I used to go out to bars with my suit on in college? Maybe you just go straight from work. Lab coat. Yeah, you're right. Scrubs, maybe. Scrubs.
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Kyle
Or maybe just the people are like, is this Halloween?
- [85:24]
Saruti
ID badges just hanging from your, you know, from your pocket or something like.
- [85:28]
Kyle
I'll put that away. Yeah, put that away.
- [85:30]
Saruti
Such a long day. Days are blending together.
- [85:32]
Kyle
I know. Saved so many lives today in the.
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Saruti
Emergency room, but I don't know, you're still young and you get to do this part. A lot of guys do this part with no money and no prospects and you're doing it like finished and probably making decent money. I know you got loans, but who doesn't? So I don't know. I think we already said the BYU part. How much could you really have done? You could have got yourself in some serious trouble. I mean, I thought pot sandwich, strict. I can't imagine getting caught doing stuff at byu. So. I don't know.
- [86:01]
Ryan Rossillo
I think.
- [86:02]
Saruti
I think it's classic to wonder if you did this wrong. I know I probably did my shit wrong. I would. I would go back for, you know, academic success instead of all the time I use doing other stuff.
- [86:12]
Kyle
So what would you do? What would you. Like, I was thinking, would you.
- [86:17]
Saruti
I was like, would I actually do more extracurriculars? I probably would have got a better skill than a communications degree, which I'm not sure the communications department really even knows. I was like, wait, so I just will be HR one day. Like, I don't know. Not sure.
- [86:31]
Kyle
The communication degree is a bit of a joke, right?
- [86:35]
Saruti
Yeah.
- [86:36]
Kyle
I'll be honest.
- [86:37]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah.
- [86:37]
Kyle
Listen, two comms degree guys here, like, half of my. I think, listen, I've got. There's kids, people that I graduated with that are on, like, network news channels, and there are people that literally just didn't even get into the business. It's very strange.
- [86:52]
Saruti
I don't know.
- [86:52]
Ryan Rossillo
I would.
- [86:53]
Saruti
I would have just tried a little harder. I think probably in high school, too, I would have tried a little harder because then I really realized how limited those college things were. Like, my dad yelled at me that I applied to UAlbany. He was like, you're not getting in there.
- [87:03]
Ryan Rossillo
What the fuck?
- [87:03]
Saruti
You just wasted 50 bucks. Like, wow, did you not get in there? Yeah, Dad, I didn't get it.
- [87:09]
Ryan Rossillo
Didn't get in. Didn't get in.
- [87:12]
Kyle
They're lost, dude.
- [87:14]
Ryan Rossillo
I think the other thing, though, the point that we should get to here is that you probably need to find a way to do a better job of the people in your department that are in your school. School and all have the same stresses and all have the same brutal schedules. Like, I totally get it. You didn't have the same undergrad experience that other guys did, but you decided very early on this is something you want to pursue and you're on the path to it, and that's going to be part of the sacrifice that you can't just get weird on a Thursday because your commitment to your schooling is that much more. You know, it's just the schedule, man. It's. It's brutal. Like, I even knew some girls that were in physical therapy. And then as they progressed through the school and PT training, like, we would never see them. We saw them, like, the first couple years, and then they'd be like, did they transfer? It's like, no. Like, that's what it is. And I know it sucks, but I think you'll feel better for it down the road. But as far as being in med school, find people. Like, try to be social within that group, because I think all of you are going through the same things. You'll understand the sacrifices that you're making, and maybe it's just something where you say, hey, once every six weeks or something. We. Let's make sure we find a break.
- [88:28]
Kyle
Yeah, do trivia. You know, be the guy that gets trivia night started.
- [88:32]
Ryan Rossillo
Does it have to be that dorky?
- [88:34]
Kyle
Dude, trivia's awesome. What are you talking. What are you talking about?
- [88:38]
Ryan Rossillo
Is trivia awesome? Yeah, you guys being in a.
- [88:43]
Saruti
That does trivia that you didn't know about. That's kind of cool. I think that's cool. I was like, surprise trivia night.
- [88:49]
Kyle
Wait, so you think trying to go. Trying to go to trivia sucks, but accidentally doing trivia is awesome?
- [88:54]
Saruti
I just meant it was a nice surprise for me in the last month. I was like, oh, fuck, it's turning into. It's like a flash mob, but it's trivia. I was like, oh, that's interesting.
- [89:02]
Ryan Rossillo
Okay, so rank them. Rank them. Appointment trivia. Surprise trivia.
- [89:11]
Kyle
Well, surprise trivia is awesome. I mean, I'm not going to argue with you on that.
- [89:15]
Ryan Rossillo
So you think I just thought it.
- [89:16]
Saruti
Was funny that it was your first success? Probably nerds.
- [89:24]
Kyle
Yeah.
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Ryan Rossillo
I would get texts from people all the time, cheating, being like, hey, I'm a trivia. Who is Kirk Gibson or something like that. What's dorkier trivia or group karaoke off at Butterfly in West Hartford with all the music. The music and theater kids from Hartford. And then again being in the mix because that thing was insane.
- [89:55]
Kyle
It was. I would say, man, that's tough because.
- [89:59]
Saruti
That sounds dorkier than trivia. I mean, I wasn't there, but come on.
- [90:02]
Kyle
But it was, like, kind of awesome inside. It's hard to win a couple times because it was a shit show and it could be really fun, but I'm not. It's not for me. Like, I guess I'm more of a dork because I like the trivia thing, but I'm not. I. I don't think that's dorky. I guess that, yeah, it's probably the trivia thing.
- [90:17]
Ryan Rossillo
But you said theater kings.
- [90:19]
Saruti
Were they doing, like, queuing up, like, numbers from Cats or something? Or was it like.
- [90:23]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah, and, like, they have enough microphones that, like, one group was paddle karaoke, the other group and they all had it, the routine down. And I went once because everybody talked about, like, how crazy it was. I think I just gone through a breakup and somebody's like, oh, you should come out. You should come out. I was like, this is making it way worse. I'm going to go home. But it was just on. And you would have thought if it were an episode of Glee, and you were like, hey, you're just going to be an extra, and this is going to be an episode of Glee. I would have believed it. It was so coordinated. It was so intense. And people were actually really good, too. But then there'd be, like, an ESPN dude that would get in the mix or whatever every now and then. But that thing. I'm glad I saw it. I never wanted to go again, and I didn't. Wasn't going to sing a song either, so.
- [91:08]
Kyle
There's something kind of badass, though. Maybe you guys are going to laugh at this, but, like, if you're. If you're killing it at trivia, like, you just know all these, like, cool history facts, and I don't know, that's. That's like a powerful feeling when it's.
- [91:19]
Saruti
Great to feel smart.
- [91:21]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [91:22]
Ryan Rossillo
All right, you've got me sold.
- [91:24]
Kyle
Yeah. Group trivia. We should plan this. Ryan's house, maybe.
- [91:28]
Ryan Rossillo
All right. Yeah, we'll do what it might have said.
- [91:31]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [91:35]
Ryan Rossillo
Yeah. Let me get some. Let me get some questions next time I see you guys. That'd be great. All right, That'll do it. For life advice, we want Friday feedback. We're going to tape live. Well, I don't know. I guess I'll just tape it. It'll be. I don't know why I would say live in Denver. We could probably pull it off live, but it's not important for it to be live. Friday feedback. RR gmail.com. so any questions there? We'll go through it and. Sounded like Siri had something else there.
- [92:03]
Kyle
No, just tape it. We're gonna tape it on Wednesday. Should drop probably Thursday or into Friday, so get me before then.
- [92:10]
Ryan Rossillo
All right, sounds good. We got big cap after the college football committee rankings. Something else big going on Tuesday, too. Busy week, so. Yeah, there you go. Oh, yeah, that's right. The trade deadline. That's what I was thinking of. Thanks to Oregon. Thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Serenity. The Ryan Rossillo podcast or YouTube page and ring response must be 21 and older. Present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + and present in D.C. gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler or visit rg-help.com call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling helpline.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 18778, hope NY or text hopeny in New York.