Ryan Fitzpatrick (18:20)

Yeah, good. How are you? How. I mean, I know you're in la. How are the fires near you? You okay or.

Ryan Rosillo (18:25)

Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. I'm south of it, but it's just awful, you know. So I, I have, you know, I. You kind of get updates from buddies living in different areas and people are losing their houses and it's just, it's awful.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (18:38)

So, yeah, yeah, we've got a bunch of the Amazon crew is kind of in that area and we've been really, you know, trying to catch up with people all day because it just, it's devastating to watch on the news.

Ryan Rosillo (18:49)

Yeah. I mean, where I live, you know, I'm not exposed to it, but when you see it happen, when you see the Malibu fires for the vantage point, you just see like this area to the north just all on fire and smoke. And then I got up this morning and walked outside and I couldn't breathe for a little bit and I thought, whoa, this is because it was so dark. Yeah. I was like looking around going, okay. And then again, I have my, I have no complaints because of my situation. But yeah, it's just, it's brutal. It's such a big area and then just to see it. So, you know, once I get done today, kind of making, making more phone calls and making the rounds and checking on people. So tough. So you guys will be going into a game with Baltimore, Pittsburgh, where look like when they've played the first time through and you look at all the Lamar numbers against them, you look at the overall record, even though he had like missed four games because of various reasons, when they lost to Pittsburgh the first time, I was like, what is like, I give up. Right. Because I thought there was a significant gap between the two Teams field goal kicking a huge part of it, and then they win the rematch. And, you know, look, maybe the score looks a little more lopsided than it was because it's just a fight. But do you think Baltimore finally, like, mentally has figured it out where you don't give Pittsburgh much of a chance in this game?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (20:08)

Well, I mean, division games are tough, right? And it is. It's so interesting. That first game, that was the. You know, the one was Pittsburgh. One was six field goals. And you start, you know, we're doing our preparation for this game. You start looking at the numbers. Like you're saying, I mean, the Steelers have won eight of the last 10, the Steelers have won four, the last five in Baltimore, and you're scratching your head going, how is this even possible? But the way they won that first game, you know, with turnovers, with timely sacks, with timely plays, and even, you know, pointing to, like, the Cincinnati game at the end of the year, you know, a ball bounces off somebody's foot on a punt, those are the type of things that are going to have to happen in this game. They're going to have to go the way of the Steelers, but, you know, we've kind of seen that for the last few years with them. They put themselves in good situations. And, you know, Lamar, this is. This is it for him. They've had a great season. They're on a run right now. These last four games after the buy, they've been playing awesome football. Todd Monken now being there another year with him, Derrick Henry and how strong he is right now, I just. It seems like this is the year for the Ravens, but probably the opponent they didn't want to see in the playoffs because of all the division stuff.

Ryan Rosillo (21:24)

What do you think is fair about Russell Wilson? Because, you know, one part is the defense is not even close to being what it was for two thirds of the season. The Pickens games where he was out for three, and then, look, it wasn't like he was awesome to finish the season in the last game. And he seems to be somebody that can maybe let the game bother him so much that he's almost taken himself out of it a little bit, despite his enormous talent. So I felt like a lot of the Russell Wilson stuff was really, like, unfair and ignoring other factors. But at the same time, and unfortunately for Russell and the Steelers throughout this entire season, in this run, where you're like, okay, nice job, guys. But, like, look at the other quarterbacks. So there's clearly a ceiling with Wilson. So I'm just kind of wondering how you see it because I think some of the criticism was ignoring other major factors for their decline.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (22:12)

Well, the first thing on Pickens, I'll say we all know he's an all world talent but everybody has taken notice of, you know, poking and prodding and bothering him a little bit and getting him out of his game. And you're going to see more of that. Right? That's, that's something that is talked about in meetings going into a game because he is a guy that can break open a game. With Russell Wilson, what I've seen, especially the last four weeks, he's one of the best deep ball throwers ever and he's shown that again this year. But what you've seen defense is doing, if it's not press man, cover one on the outside, whether he's throwing it to Pickens or Calvin Austin, then he struggled a little bit and you know the formula that has been used and I think that the formula you're going to see because it's what Baltimore's kind of done this back half of the year rush for play different types of zone coverage and let's make Russ kind of beat us getting the ball out. Quick reading and Baltimore's been very good at getting pressure on quarterbacks with a four man rush this year. And you know, Russ has had a hard time playing in the pocket and throwing on time. When he does, he's kind of throwing the check down. So now you're seeing people hugging the backs, not giving him press one on one coverage and that's where he's running around and escaping the pocket. It leads to a lot of throwaways now and you know, for as dynamic as Russ was earlier in his career and being able to create plays off schedule like that, it hasn't been the same at the back end of this year. So I think that's what you're seeing and what you've seen the last little bit. But if they have an opportunity to throw it deep, they've got to take the chance. And whether that's a third and 1, 2, 3 and you're getting some of that, man, those are the ways they're going to make their chunk yards in this game and they're not going to have many opportunities with the way Baltimore's been playing deep defense.

Ryan Rosillo (23:57)

Did you have. Well, I'm sure like all quarterbacks you have throws you love. Like I always love those mic'd up things and they're talking to the quarterback and they've got the sheet and it's like, what do you like? You know, like, well, I, you know, I like this. Did you have moments where you were like, damn it, they know. They know what I don't want to throw. They know. They know. Like, this is not one of my go tos.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (24:18)

Yeah, I mean, I.

Ryan Rosillo (24:19)

So.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (24:19)

So for Russ, Russ lives on the outside, throwing the ball to the outside and, you know, outside the numbers, essentially. He's been really good at that throughout his career, and that's kind of where he's lived this year as well. For me, it was always inside the numbers, you know, and so when you look at an offense like Shanahan's, like Brock, Purdy and Tua, and the way that they feast in the middle of the field, you try to take that away and make them throw to the outside. Russ is almost the opposite where we're going to take away the deep sideline throws because he's so effective and good at him. And this is what this team thrives on, you know, and play the zones and make them read the coverages over the middle. But the other thing that I'll say that I think is going to be interesting, this game, Pittsburgh, they. They're coming after Lamar, they're going to blitz them, they're going to try to get pressure on him and, you know, if there's anybody that knows his weaknesses and the way to get after him a little bit, it's going to be Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Ryan Rosillo (25:18)

Okay? So normally I wouldn't spend this much time on all the games that we have, but because it's your game, and this might be the most important part of it is that the drop off to the playoffs has been real for Lamar, and the talk is always, okay, blitz them. You know, it does seem weird to say about the MVP at that position to go, okay, make them throw in a playoff game, but that's why they moved on from Greg Roman, is that they want to look different. There's a lot of people who believe that he is. He's playing the game before the snap better than he ever has before because he's able to adapt to the straightforward approach that has basically stopped him in the playoffs. So what. What have you seen in kind of your expectation? Because you're right, the Steelers thing just throws a wrench into this hole. Like, imagine if Lamar loses the Steelers and it doesn't look good. And it's like, it might not be that he hasn't developed enough. It could just be that it's this matchup, but more back to the original question of, like, what you see in kind of preparation of your expectations.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (26:14)

Yeah. I mean, Lamar just had one of the best seasons we've ever seen a quarterback play, you know, in terms of his productivity, in terms of, you know, the. The limited interceptions and turning the ball over. He's really comfortable in this offense now. So I think those are all big things. But that question does remain. Can he do it in the playoffs? You know, he's even talked about just not being so antsy and hyped up and just calming down and playing his normal game. I think maybe getting him running a little bit early. You know, for me, if there was ever some anxiety or anxiousness, like maybe getting a run and getting that first hit in just kind of let you breathe and relax and say, okay, this is. This is a football game. This is what I know. But I'm excited to see a man because this is, I think, the best team that they've had, and they're playing their best ball right now at the end of the season. So he's been pretty unflappable this year. And, you know, the Zay Flowers thing, if he's not playing, that could be a big factor in the game. But Derek Henry has been so good running the ball this year, especially yards after contact. It's been unbelievable. And he's a guy that just continues to defy this aging running back thing where he's playing better right now than he ever has.

Ryan Rosillo (27:29)

Yeah. And just two hours ago, it was reported Zay Flowers is still a long shot. And you're absolutely right. Like, that's just. That's huge because he's. He just opened so much up for him. All right, let's talk a little Houston Chargers here.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (27:41)

Okay.

Ryan Rosillo (27:41)

Now, there's some stuff with Houston where you could look at, like, some of the defensive numbers and be really excited about it. And then you look at some of the other ones, you're like, okay, what's going on? And then if you look at the Stroud year by year thing, and this is where it becomes, like, really nasty and political, where it's like, oh, I thought everybody liked this guy. It's like, I did really like him. And I still think the arm talent there. There still throws a C.J. stroud over the course of a game where I'm like, oh, my God. Right. But the numbers are down. There's a decline on those. But then it can be just perhaps directly correlation to the offensive line having Nico out. You know, like, there's a lot of excuses you can make for CJ I'm just wondering how you see him from year one to year two and expectation of a playoff game.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (28:20)

Yeah, there's, there's a lot of excuses that can be made and, and it's for everybody too, right? Because even on the other side, Justin Herbert's been banged up this year and you know, how much is the ankle affected him and. But you, you know, for Stroud, the first thing I'll say about him is he, when he throws the football, it is more effortless than anybody in the NFL. It's. If I'm teaching my kids how to throw a football, I want to have them watch CJ Stroud throw a ball. It is unbelievable the way that it comes out of his hand. I think he had an amazing year last year, gone through some struggles this year, but, you know, they still got into the playoffs. We think about how far they've come in the last two years from what it was before he got there to what it is now. I think Diggs getting injured really hurt them. Obviously, Tank now, Dell now being down really hurts them. But this is going to be a heavy dose of Nico Collins and Joe Mixon, and unfortunately, the vibes aren't high right now in Houston and in that locker room. They've really struggled. They've struggled to protect him, but they're going to have to have a game where they play great on defense. You know, the Chargers, maybe this does become a defensive battle, but Justin Herbert, the last two weeks has been playing really good football, too. So I think this is, this is the matchup maybe people are most unsure about in terms of which way it's going to go, but I would say the Chargers probably have the upper hand here and then, you know, whoever wins this game probably gets the, the present of going to play the Chiefs.

Ryan Rosillo (29:48)

Do you feel really good about just one single team in the, in the playoff field here?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (29:57)

I mean, everybody, everybody has their question marks, you know, I mean, even, even Detroit, who has been so dominant this year, the defensive injuries just scare me. The risk reward, all the man coverage, you know, will they be able to keep up and outscore everybody? I thought the, the Buffalo game was awesome, but that might be an indication of what's going to happen in a few of these games for them. That's why this year is so interesting, though. Everybody has their flaws. Everybody has their flaws. And I just feel like whoever comes out of the AFC is going to win the super bowl and it's, you know, I'm not making any bold predictions here. All Year it's kind of been Chiefs, Ravens, Bills. Those have been the three teams we've all been looking at. You know me, I'm a homer. I enjoy the Bills of those three, for sure. But I think Baltimore set up to make a real run right now.

Ryan Rosillo (30:54)

Cause I, I know it's like a default every year of like, hey, even the best teams have this. But it. Just because of the Chiefs thing all year, right? Like, I know I should just pick the Chiefs. I might, I might just do it. I mean, beginning of the year, I had Bills, packers, so I'm still alive. I'm still in this thing. Although, you know, with my Oregon call, even though I didn't want to pick him against Ohio State, sometimes you're like, well, I said it in the summer, so I have to do it again.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (31:16)

Stick with it. Yeah. Well, for me, the cheat, you, the Chiefs, we had them against the Raiders, and they walked off that field at the end of the game. They just had a really, a couple of really bad games. They won them all. Of course, the Denver game, the Raiders game, they were just walking off that field and it's like, God, this doesn't look like a team that is primed for a run. And then all of a sudden they have a couple good games and vibes are high again. And, you know, I, I want to sit there and double down on the. Well, the Chiefs aren't going to do this and that, but, gosh, they, they look like they're primed to make another run right now.

Ryan Rosillo (31:53)

Yeah. Sometimes I think this game is as simple as if you need to convert, like third and seven, or if you need to get your 20 yards to get into field goal range, or if you need to convert a third and two and run out the clock. Like, if you can do those three things and you, you just have the absolute trust. And of course, Mahomes is the best in the business, so that's the guy you trust the most. But in all of those moments, you're just like, yeah, they'll. They'll get it. And then they do. And, and like last year, it was kind of funny because, you know, one of your favorite sports moments you could have as a fan is just Mahomes down four, right? Down four is when it's really fun. And those late drives and they actually didn't work out across, but they were terrible for a bunch of different reasons. And all those scenarios, and it's like, hey, my favorite scenario is actually not working with the guy. That's the man. And then you're like, maybe there's maybe, maybe something's wrong. And then they just turn into a completely different team in the playoffs. So it's just horrifying to think about picking against them because you just. They deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (32:54)

Yeah. And I, and you know, as, as being part of a team, when you have a quarterback that you can sit back there and you know, when you have the ball at the end of the game, say, gosh, we're going to go and win this thing, there's no doubt in my mind. That's when you know you have a guy and I'll just say, you know, Washington, watching Washington all year and Jaden Daniels and how he's been able to come in and look unflappable. And in the game's biggest moments, it just seems like he is at his best and he is most calm. It's been so crazy to watch him this year perform. I think he's the runaway offensive rookie of the year and there's some other great candidates. I hate the discussions of, well, if you like him, you can't like anybody else. I mean, Bo Nix has had an unbelievable season. Brock Bowers had an unbelievable season. Malik Neighbors, there's a bunch of guys. But Jayden Daniels, because of what you were just talking about, when you need a third down, when you need a fourth down, when you need a thing at the end of the game, it just seems like they have the utmost confidence in him and he's been able to turn around not just a team but a city and a complete franchise in one year by the way that he plays football. And it's been amazing to watch.

Ryan Rosillo (34:03)

I love the way that Jaden's story closed too, because, you know, I do always worry about some of the rookie quarterbacks to start putting up really good numbers early on because I think for some we've seen historically there is a correction on the quarterback where it's like, remember when that guy was kind of like lighting it up and then everybody figured him out a little bit. Then there was some second half stuff with Jaden where you thought, you know, is something going? And then he just, he becomes one of those players. I think towards the end of the year it's like this guy's just going to save you week to week. You know, it doesn't have to happen every single week.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (34:35)

Right.

Ryan Rosillo (34:35)

That can turn into like, hey, I thought this guy was good. But that you have that in you as a quarterback, as a rookie and to pull out some of those games towards the end of the season again in such dramatic fashion. It's. It's pretty special, I guess. It sounds like Janie would be your guy. Where is Bo Nix on the rookie rankings for you as they get ready for Buffalo?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (34:54)

He's been unbelievable and he. He just continues to surprise me, I guess is the way that I would put it. We got to have them twice this year, and in the first game, it was against the Saints in New Orleans. It was. They won, but it was very up and down performance. He was kind of looking around, running, missed a few passes, relied on his legs, maybe a little too much, but he's a great scrambler, so that part is a big part of what he does. And then he went on a run after that in terms of, you know, throwing, I think it was like 15 touchdowns and one interception or something. It was an amazing run. And then he'll have his moments where he'll remind you that he's a rookie. But I think it's a great marriage. I think as a quarterback, the situation matters a lot. And for him to be lucky enough to be drafted by Denver because of the coach, because of Sean Payton, the way he puts him in great situations, and then Bo can create. I mean, he's a very creative quarterback. And they're going to be a problem. You know, Buffalo, it's going to be an interesting game. I think it matches up well for Buffalo only because the strengths of Denver getting after the passer, and Buffalo has been really good at that all year. A lot of that's been their offensive line, and some of that's been Josh. When it's not perfect, Josh is able to create and get outside the pocket. And then Patrick Certain is one of the best players, defensive players, and players in general in the National Football League, but there's not really one guy that he has to take away in that Buffalo game. And so I think some of those big strengths that you look at in Denver and their defense and what they do well, Buffalo kind of neutralizes that because of the strengths that they have as an offense.

Ryan Rosillo (36:36)

That Denver pass rush, I think is like one of the most underrated units in the NFL. And I remember like earlier this year, just watching Zach Allen and just how much he popped and how much he popped at his size, too. And you're like, that dude is thick. Thick. And he's moving like that.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (36:51)

Is that J.J. watt? No. No, that's not. Okay. Yeah, no, J.J. 's not playing for Denver.

Ryan Rosillo (36:56)

Right. Is this a commercial? They get him a costume from the Broncos because, I mean, Look, I think prime JJ Watt over those three years was like horror because I think he stayed mad the whole three plus hours, which is really hard to do. Like you're still this pissed off. This is amazing.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (37:09)

Well, I, so I, I play with JJ in 2014 and I'll, I still will go down as saying, you know, in my 17 years and my nine teams, that was the best season JJ 2014 that I've ever seen one of my teammates have. He was unbelievable. I think he finished runner up by a few votes to Aaron Rodgers that year as the league mvp, but that was year. He was scoring touchdowns on offense, he was scoring touchdowns on defense, he was getting after the quarterback and it was just so amazing to watch those peak jj.

Ryan Rosillo (37:37)

I couldn't, I'm just like sitting here gushing about it, thinking back to it, because the intensity, the edge and intensity that he played with consistently through all 60 minutes feels almost like unobtainable. Like you must have had guys on the sideline just going, what is this guy made of? Like, how, how can he be this dialed in consistently all, all season long? And again it was over the course of multiple years. It was just, I mean, look, nobody's Aaron Donald, so don't, we don't have to worry about that part of it. But like just his rage.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (38:09)

Well, anyway, it was also the, the timing of when he made plays. And I'll never forget being in Houston and every time they needed a player, we needed to play on defense, they put on. I think maybe it's little John, but they put on turn down for what? And everybody just went wild because it became turned down for Watt. And they were saying, all right, jj, time to make a play. And then sure enough, third down, he made the play. He got, he got us off the field. He made an interception. He did something crazy, but pretty fun memories. Every time I hear that song, I think about him and the time in Houston.

Ryan Rosillo (38:44)

Yeah, that actually worked out pretty well for him. Um, but, you know, it's close enough, right? Let's stay on Tampa then with Washington because, you know, on Monday I was talking about Tampa, where I go. You know, I feel like I've been, I don't think dismissive is the right word because it's not like I don't respect the offensive profile. This Baker turnaround is, is one of the all timers, Mike Evans part of this. Just keep, just keep doing it. And I love Bucky Irving. So, like there's a lot of things about this team I really like, but they haven't Won a million games over this stretch to fight winning the division. And then when you look at some of the division numbers, you can make an argument it's like they score like a touchdown more per game when they were playing NFC south teams as opposed to outside of it. And Washington, I think defensively is, is somewhat, you know, they're, they're, they're middle of the pack. Even though I like so much of their personnel. Yeah, there's a lot in the front seven that I really like for them, so just go ahead and pick.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (39:39)

Well, I mean, you talk about Tampa, Tampa has been up and down this year, right? But Tampa has beat Detroit and they have beat Philly. And so you look at a couple of those wins and you're going, gosh, wait, they have, they beat both those teams. But the thing about Tampa, you know, I think defensively it's been a struggle this year, more than on the offensive end. And what I like about Tampa, Todd Bowles, this is now you're just playing these games three hours, and Todd Bowles is going to be able to scheme, he's going to be able to create pressure. And I'm not too concerned about their defense in the playoffs because of that. Because being around Todd, I was with him for two years in New York. Richard Sherman, being with him in Tampa, you know, loves the way that he can go and attack, you know, in a playoff type atmosphere, and he's done it before. But Liam Cohen deserves a lot of credit for the Bucks and what they've done this year. Offensively, Baker's been unbelievable, Mike's been unbelievable. But they lose Chris Godwin, you know, that was a huge loss for them and kind of this. I didn't know much about Buggy Irving before this year, so that was a huge surprise for me. But oh, my goodness, especially early on, too, the way they were able to scheme stuff with two running backs on the field at the same time and just utilizing the personnel that they had for the week. Liam Cohen's been amazing. But I'll just say this, too. I'm going to pick Tampa in this game. I loved week 18. Baker, they're struggling. You know, they need to pick up a win. They're not playing well versus New Orleans. They come out in the second half and that play, the first, third down, where he takes off, he lowers his shoulder and that wasn't the end of it. He gets up, he stands over the dude, he causes a fight, he walks away to the sideline. Tristan Wurfs is there, you know, shoving people the Whole Tampa offense is over there fighting New Orleans defense. It's like the dude just understands football. He gets it. He understands how to provide a spark. He understands how to get his guys going. And those dudes love playing for Baker Mayfield. So I'm going to go with Tampa in this game, although I think it's going to be one of the more intriguing quarterback matchups of the first round.

Ryan Rosillo (41:48)

All right, I. I love that you point to that play.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (41:53)

It's the.

Ryan Rosillo (41:53)

It was the best man, because you just nailed it. Like, you nailed it from the perspective of somebody that's coming out of the tunnel. And then you need something like that, because it's also this weird dynamic where you're like, Atlanta's not losing to Carolina. Like, if you're Tampa and you're down at the half, New Orleans, you don't think they're going to actually lose to Carolina. Except the Bryce Young story continues. The funniest part about that play is Harris the defender for the Saints. Baker didn't go down, so Harris hit him. And then Baker acted as if.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:24)

I'm telling you, he came out of the huddle or out of the tunnel at halftime thinking, like, all right, I got to do something. And so, you know, the run was not a surprise, but it was the standing over him that was. He did that intentionally, you know, to get the guys going.

Ryan Rosillo (42:39)

Oh, yeah.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:40)

Which was. Which is why he loved Baker.

Ryan Rosillo (42:42)

I love that line that you just gave us, though. He gets football. Green Bay, Philadelphia. Week one was one of the best games of the season.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (42:50)

Yeah.

Ryan Rosillo (42:50)

And I remember, you know, doing the pod the next morning. I was like, I think the important thing to say is, hey, I think both of these teams are really good from a personnel standpoint. It would have been shocking if they had disappointing seasons and listed let health. But, you know, Philadelphia's completely turned around this defense from where they were last year. You know, the Green Bay, Minnesota stuff kind of. Kind of bothered me because I felt like both games played out where. Even the first game where they come back and make it look close, it was a million mistakes. I think Minnesota just kicked their ass the second time around, and then they get a couple late scores when you know that the defense is just not going to be as tuned up when the score is that way. So, you know, the Hertz part of it's a huge deal. I think it feels like people are leaning toward the fact that he's going to play even though he's still in concussion protocol. So just go in any direction you want.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (43:36)

Yeah, I Mean, Philly might be the most complete team in the playoffs. You know, it's been awesome to see Fangio come in and the way their defense has performed, I think. And, you know, my guy Andrew Whitworth always wants to talk about the trenches, and I think Philly has the best combination of defensive line and offensive line in the NFL. And so the. The Saquon stuff this year has been great. You want to talk about a guy that everybody across the NFL cheers for just because of the human being that he is, but what an amazing player. So to be able to showcase his talents this year and do what he's done in Philadelphia has been awesome. I'm not concerned about Jalen Hurts not playing. I think he'll be in the game. It's been a couple of weeks, and, you know, with him, I think it's been up and down a little bit this year. But I go back to watching that super bowl, and, you know, other than the one play, the fumble that was. That was one of the more impressive quarterback performances I've ever seen in a Super bowl, certainly in a losing effort. And so they have skill all the way across the board. Jalen's shown that he can do it in the game's biggest moments. The Packers I've been so high on all year, they're so young, they're so fun. Josh Jacobs has been incredible. Their defense has played well at wide receiver. The Christian Watson injury hurts, but they're so deep at wide receiver. I would love to see Romeo Dobbs be more involved. Jaden Reed's kind of been quiet the last few weeks. You know, Wicks is the guy that's going to be able to step up, but then it all kind of falls on Jordan Love. I think they've done a great job this year putting him in position to be successful. And Matt lafor has done a great job calling the plays, even when you saw Willis come in for those two games, putting him in great situations to make plays. So it's going to come down to, can Jordan Love make those plays at the end of the game. I think he's been inconsistent with that. He obviously has shown that he can do it, but I don't know that the expectation right now is that he's going to do it with the Green Bay packers fans. So it's an intriguing game, but Jordan Love's going to have to show up and play really well in that game. I think his elbow is similar to what Josh Allen had. You know, the funny bone and just feeling weird for a Couple of hours. I think he'll be okay. But I love this packers team and, you know, I hope that Jordan can put on a great performance.

Ryan Rosillo (46:00)

Yeah, Reed's been a little quiet. Dobbs has been. You know, he had the seven catches against Minnesota, but I'm telling you, he's.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:08)

He's going to be a super. I think he's going to be a superstar. Romeo Dobbs, when I watch his tape, when I watch, you know, how smooth he is off the line, is run after the catchability. I hope to see him get some more opportunities in this game, because when.

Ryan Rosillo (46:21)

They'Re rolling, it's like, oh, that guy. Oh, that guy. You know, like, especially, like, if you really know. And again, I'm talking more like a Packers fan just locked into their personnel. But for those of us that, you know, are paying attention to how you're putting together that receiver room, and then there's just these moments where like, oh, that's the diff. That's the different dude.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (46:39)

Yeah, yeah, that's completely different job learning these names. Like, wait a minute. What? But, yeah, they just have playmakers across the board.

Ryan Rosillo (46:45)

Okay, final. Final couple thoughts here. We'll finish here soon. But I hate, like, whenever. It's the blueprint, you know, did so and so give you the blueprint? Did Detroit. I told myself I wasn't going to use the term.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (47:00)

Yeah, well, I. I don't use the term. Is there anything to the way Detroit blueprint. Okay, well, I. I'll say this. You know, there's been some, you know, the same.

Ryan Rosillo (47:10)

You already know what the question is.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (47:11)

Yeah, it's Sam. Sam Darnold. You know, we all know what happened with the jets, and I'm seeing goes versus the Patriots and all that. I'll say, like, he's been great against the blitz this year. He really has. But teams really haven't blitzed him a lot either. And I think part of it is they're really afraid of. If you blitz, you have less guys to cover and look at who they have on the outside. And part of it was early on in the season, it just wasn't successful and guys were getting gashed by the Vikings. So I think. I think it's a thing. I think they got after him early, and I think it caused some problems in that game. So I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams come after him a little bit more. And, you know, the Rams, since the bye week, have been blitzing more. That's been part of it. But the problem is you can do that. And you can come after Sam a little bit more. But again, you have less guys to guard Addison and Justin Jefferson, the greatest receiver on the planet. So I think it was a good wake up call for Minnesota to say, gosh, we got to have better answers. You know, Sam, I've got to have better answers when stuff like this happens. Go back to the drawing board and it'll help them prepare to hopefully make a run in the playoffs.

Ryan Rosillo (48:23)

Yeah, because I, what I didn't want to do because I felt like Minnesota in that spot against Detroit with the injuries, I'm like, okay, they'll, they'll get this one. And then when you see the swing as everybody listening understands like the 1 seed in the NFC as opposed to now, you're going on the road. Yeah, it's like, it's just a completely different level of challenge here. And so then I thought, okay, well this means you just have to go with Detroit out of the NFC again because I picked whatever this summer, we'll just see how it goes. But then it's like, well, maybe I'll just flip it, I'll just flip it to Philadelphia. And I'm like, man, this feels, this feels like, what else does Detroit need to do? Yeah, well, and Detroit get healthy overnight.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (49:03)

Yeah, but it's, it's those injuries. Okay, they're going to catch up to them. They're going to catch up to them and it's like they just continue to play so well on offense. And I give Aaron Glenn a lot of credit. They're aggressive on defense and that's the whole mentality of this football team. They're aggressive. And so you know, in order to beat them, you're going to have to do what Buffalo did and you're going to have to score 40 something points. And even when you're scoring 40 points, I mean, people kind of forget that game. Detroit started coming back and putting some pressure on Buffalo and Dawson Knox make this unbelievable one handed catch in the fourth quarter where it's like, even though Buffalo dominated that game, if you look at the final score and you kind of have that feeling of what was going on in the second half, it wasn't a blowout, it was. Detroit was putting pressure on them the whole second half to score every possession. So that's how you're going to have to beat Detroit this year. If you're going to beat him, it's going to be 35 plus points. And know you're going to have to get after Jared Goff, which people have a hard time get to him this year.

Ryan Rosillo (50:01)

That, that game for Allen may be my favorite game a quarterback had all season.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (50:04)

Oh, it's great.

Ryan Rosillo (50:05)

Just because he was, he was doing stuff that you're just not supposed to be able to do in an NFL game where it's like, I'll just completely like single handedly figure this out.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (50:14)

Well, and they teach you not to do some of the stuff he was doing too, right? I mean some of the, some of the throws, rolling right, throwing left, rolling left, throwing right. I mean he was just on another level, which, you know, maybe two of his, two of his best moments that game and obviously the Kansas City game and the run at the end of that game to put it to two scores were pretty incredible moments for him.

Ryan Rosillo (50:36)

Are you going to Buffalo?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (50:39)

I'm not kind of disappointed. I, you know, getting Buffalo to Baltimore is not the easiest flying wise. And then my daughter's got a birthday on Monday. Getting back from Buffalo to Arizona is not the easiest. So I'm hoping they win and maybe I can make it the next week, but I'm not going to be able to make it out this weekend.

Ryan Rosillo (50:57)

Yeah, I think I knew I could tell you're hedging. You're hedging a bit. Like maybe, maybe I'll show up for a.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (51:05)

Fingers crossed.

Ryan Rosillo (51:07)

Hey man, say hi to everybody. With the Amazon crew again, you can catch Ryan Fitzpatrick and the rest of the crew. That's going to be the wild guard pregame show. A prime video this Saturday night, 7:30 Eastern. Again, Steelers, Ravens, 8 Eastern. Enjoy the playoffs, man. Thanks.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (51:22)

All right, thanks Ryan.

Ryan Rosillo (51:27)

Just an update on the schedule. Because of the Ohio State Texas game, we're going to go on live after that. So we'll have like a full episode for you. But instead of releasing it part one in the morning, part two, we're just going to have the full episode and we'll be live ready to go right after Texas, Ohio State. I'm picking Ohio State because I don't want to pick against him anymore and I'm picking Penn State. So we get an all Big Ten jamboree and media members that graduated from Big Ten schools can rejoice forever. All right, here's what we got. Ohio State, four legs. Let's do it. Alt spread. Ohio State plus three and a half against Texas. That feels awesome, right? Will Howard 175 plus yards. Anybody come out and try to attack just like they did against Oregon, just like they did against Tennessee. The team is still angry, my friends, and I don't know why they would ever Just try to run it right at Texas D line. Will Howard's lowest passing total on the season is 175, and that was against Michigan. I forget what happened in the game. All right, give me golden. 50 plus yards. He's the number one target for Texas. He's had 73 plus yards in four of his last five games. The low total in that stretch, 49 yards against Clemson. I think if Texas is down, they've got to find Golden. You should be able to get 50 yards out of that. This one's a little dangerous. That's right. I am dangerous. G Scott. I love this cat. Not a huge part of the offense. Had a big catch against Oregon. Has felt like a little bit more of an option. Can we get 25 yards or more out of G. Scott? Those four all plugged in together is plus 5, 26 by the last number that I got when I did this about an hour ago. So there you go again. Reminder. We'll be posting Friday's pod right after the result of Ohio State in Texas.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (53:15)

You want details? Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine, and best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.

Ryan Rosillo (53:34)

We've got Kyle. We've got Ceruti. Potentially worgon. It's life advice. Lifeadvicermail.com ceruti going with the high and sort of tight little Kendall Royish after another meltdown. What's going on with you?

Ceruti (53:52)

This is just my theory of, like, every couple times a year, you just got to mix it up a little bit. Mix the look up a little bit. I'll mix the mustache in. I'll cut the hair, I'll grow the hair out. Just kind of wanted to buzz it. It's also like, beanie season. It's freezing here in the northeast, so it's just easier when you put a beanie on. We don't have a lot of hair, so.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (54:07)

Home cut, would you?

Ceruti (54:09)

No, I got this one. This is my guy. My guy. Fantastic.

Ryan Rosillo (54:12)

Sam Hartford.

Ceruti (54:13)

No, no, downtown West Hartford.

Ryan Rosillo (54:15)

Good spot.

Kyle (54:16)

Okay.

Ceruti (54:18)

You like it? No, it doesn't seem like it. I love it.

Kyle (54:24)

It just seems like. I think it's. Think it probably feels awesome. The sides are great. It just feels like there's like a straight line going over, you know, kind of almost like a hairline thing, but it's not. And then there's Just like a little bit of fuzzies in the middle. Is that just length? Maybe it's just because I'm looking at this in 2D. Give me a little side turn. Oh, yeah. It looks better when you turn to the side.

Ceruti (54:43)

Thanks, man. Profiles better.

Ryan Rosillo (54:45)

Great profile.

Ceruti (54:46)

I don't have the straightest hairline in the world. I got good hair, but I don't have the straightest hairline. So sometimes that I don't get, like, edged up, you know, I just.

Kyle (54:52)

No, that was a. That was a 2D in a 3D world thing. That when you turn to the side, it looks good.

Ceruti (54:56)

Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

Kyle (54:58)

The Kendall Roy meltdown, that just seemed unnecessary.

Ceruti (55:00)

I don't think I'm going through. There's no crises going on in my life.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (55:02)

It just.

Ryan Rosillo (55:03)

I don't know. I don't know what you'd be like in a meltdown.

Kyle (55:06)

Just are so even super measured, probably. Yeah.

Ryan Rosillo (55:10)

Like, well, this sucks. That would be.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (55:14)

Here's what I.

Ryan Rosillo (55:15)

If Cerutty has a meltdown, he's not posting about it.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (55:20)

True.

Ryan Rosillo (55:20)

On Instagram. Hey, dudes. Just thought I'd give you an update.

Ceruti (55:25)

Going through it right now. Could really use your help in comments. Yeah.

Ryan Rosillo (55:32)

And on top of that, my dog bills are through the roof, you know, just like, oh, cool, man. So you're bummed out. All right. Got it. Yeah. And I think, I think you were doing that. But yeah, Ceruti is kind of like an action figure if action figures were skinny fat. Because you have so many different. Like, hey, have you gotten Euro soccer Ceruti? Have you gotten winter hybrids?

Kyle (56:00)

New skins just dropped, right?

Ryan Rosillo (56:01)

Yeah. Apple picking, Ceruti.

Ceruti (56:05)

Yeah, that is true. I will say. I, I. It's probably just me being a dad. Like, the ease of this haircut is pretty great. Get out of the shower. You don't really got to do much, you know.

Ryan Rosillo (56:17)

You like your styles, man. I do have, like.

Kyle (56:19)

I thought the last one really worked for you.

Ceruti (56:21)

Which one was that?

Kyle (56:23)

It was like, just. It was like the right amount of hair. Definitely more than we've got here. And I don't know if you're a hair powder guy or whatever it is. It looks like it definitely took a little something, but it didn't look like you try. It wasn't like, you know, like a construction helmet, like, you know, like one of those things. So I don't know, I wonder how long that, how long that would take you to get that all together before you leave the house.

Ceruti (56:42)

One of the casualties of, like, working at home. I feel like, is. I just. I just be. I wear a hat. I mean, you're wearing a hat guy. I just wear a hat, like every day. And it's because I'm just like. I don't really want to put any stuff in. I don't want to put any powder in it, whatever. And this is, you know, don't really got to do much, you know.

Kyle (56:56)

So you are a powder guy. I discovered the hair powder recently.

Ceruti (56:59)

It's way bad. Yeah.

Kyle (57:01)

Yeah. We don't have to talk about this.

Ryan Rosillo (57:03)

Why don't you want to talk about it?

Kyle (57:05)

I just. I feel like you don't have anything to say and, I don't know, just.

Ryan Rosillo (57:08)

Have a lot to offer. I felt bad about saying skinny fat. Now I don't.

Ceruti (57:15)

Oh, it's accurate. I've been thinking. Yeah, I was talking about. Because I was talking to my Wargon, actually. He's running a. He's running a half marathon next week.

Ryan Rosillo (57:23)

Oh. Yeah.

Ceruti (57:23)

FYI.

Ryan Rosillo (57:25)

Hey, Wargon marathon. Mike. Holy shit. Are you kidding me? Plug in, buddy. So go ahead, Serdy.

Ceruti (57:32)

No, it just got me thinking, like, I should probably start running again. So I was like, looking into those, like, you know, couch to 5K apps, because I just don't, you know, got to get the cardio up, so. But Wargon's got me beat, so I got. Maybe I could take some tips from him.

Ryan Rosillo (57:42)

What do we got?

Mike Wargon (57:43)

It's a half marathon, not a full guy.

Ryan Rosillo (57:45)

All right, but, you know, just halfway. 12 more miles and I'm going to run this month.

Kyle (57:49)

Correct?

Ryan Rosillo (57:50)

What? What are we talking about?

Mike Wargon (57:52)

It's Disney World, man. Where else would I go?

Kyle (57:54)

Wait, what?

Ryan Rosillo (57:56)

We might not even get to a question.

Kyle (57:58)

Are you going to have martinis on your way down there? You going to like. Are you going to skip the. You got to skip the lounge before you fly down.

Mike Wargon (58:03)

Flight's at 7am So I don't think that's my cards.

Ryan Rosillo (58:05)

Safe.

Ceruti (58:06)

Safe.

Ryan Rosillo (58:06)

What time you getting there? 11:00 the night before.

Mike Wargon (58:13)

If only.

Ryan Rosillo (58:16)

If only. So wait, what? Have you done one of these before? Have you ever done it? How does a Disney half marathon work? Explain it all. Leave out nothing.

Mike Wargon (58:23)

I couldn't tell you. This is my first one. Very first one.

Kyle (58:27)

That's a great question.

Ceruti (58:28)

Seemed like really good question.

Mike Wargon (58:29)

Ryan started running like four or five months ago.

Ryan Rosillo (58:32)

How you feeling?

Mike Wargon (58:33)

Just like three miles. I'm up to like, full half marathon now. I feel okay.

Kyle (58:37)

Did you start running before you booked the marathon? You were like, I'm doing so good. Or you booked it, so you had get your ass in gear. Holy shit.

Ryan Rosillo (58:44)

Yep.

Ceruti (58:45)

Exactly how much time was it to.

Kyle (58:46)

Live my life like you, man? I wish.

Ceruti (58:48)

How far out do you have to book it?

Mike Wargon (58:51)

I don't know. Maybe, like. I don't know why we booked the half mile.

Ceruti (58:54)

Like, were you a runner before this? Or you're just like, you know what? I'm just gonna run a marathon.

Kyle (58:57)

I came across your trip to Disney.

Mike Wargon (58:59)

I booked it wanting to, like, start running.

Ceruti (59:02)

Okay, wait, so how long you been training for? Like, how long did you get up to, you know, a half marathon?

Mike Wargon (59:07)

Four or five months maybe. Training is like a. So it's like, running, like, 30 minutes, you know, it's not.

Kyle (59:12)

I had no idea. Because you didn't post your routes like everyone else that does this, so I had no idea.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (59:19)

Sensitive subject.

Ceruti (59:20)

Yeah.

Mike Wargon (59:21)

Keep it to myself.

Kyle (59:22)

Yeah, good for you.

Ceruti (59:23)

Did you run a marathon if you didn't post your routes and take pictures every single day? Yeah. Document your success along the way.

Ryan Rosillo (59:30)

Damn it. All right. Do you know you dress up for this? I'm looking at some pictures right now.

Mike Wargon (59:36)

I know people dress up for it. I will not be dressing up.

Kyle (59:38)

Not even the ears?

Mike Wargon (59:39)

Not even the ears, no.

Kyle (59:40)

Gotta wear the pin.

Mike Wargon (59:42)

Wear, like, a light hoodie.

Kyle (59:43)

Hey, this guy's not wearing the ribbon.

Ryan Rosillo (59:45)

Are you big? Yeah, go ahead.

Mike Wargon (59:47)

I'm a pretty big. I mean, I got a.

Ceruti (59:48)

That's right.

Mike Wargon (59:49)

Big Lion King tattoo.

Ryan Rosillo (59:50)

I don't know.

Ceruti (59:50)

That's right.

Kyle (59:50)

Oh, that's right. That means.

Ceruti (59:51)

Dumb question. Dumb question.

Ryan Rosillo (59:54)

Will you have a shirt that shows off the ink? No, no, Tank.

Mike Wargon (59:58)

It starts at 5am so it's got to be, you know, something warm.

Kyle (60:03)

Oh. Because you guys gotta be out of there by the time the park opens.

Mike Wargon (60:06)

Gotta be out of there.

Ryan Rosillo (60:07)

Yeah.

Ceruti (60:08)

Dude, what is going on early?

Ryan Rosillo (60:11)

Is it okay to say. Sounds like a. Sounds like the worst thing ever?

Mike Wargon (60:17)

Yeah, I'm not looking forward.

Kyle (60:18)

And no espresso martinis, buddy.

Ryan Rosillo (60:20)

I don't.

Mike Wargon (60:21)

I mean, after the.

Ryan Rosillo (60:22)

Why are you doing this again?

Ceruti (60:23)

I don't actually have.

Ryan Rosillo (60:24)

The answer isn't good enough.

Mike Wargon (60:26)

I don't know. Feels like something that should have been good. And then I started running, and it's like, wow, running fucking sucks.

Ryan Rosillo (60:31)

Well, that part everybody understands. But then to put the Disney layer on it, and then there's the 5am so you can get out of there to get kids in there.

Mike Wargon (60:38)

Well, then you just get, like, a trip afterwards, which is nice.

Ryan Rosillo (60:40)

Okay. You like Disney World, though?

Ryan Fitzpatrick (60:43)

Epcot?

Ryan Rosillo (60:44)

Did you get married at Epcot?

Mike Wargon (60:46)

No, I'm not married yet.

Ryan Rosillo (60:47)

Yeah. You're not married yet, dude.

Kyle (60:49)

Totally Mandela effect there. I was like, what does your wife think about this? I didn't even.

Ryan Rosillo (60:52)

I just.

Mike Wargon (60:53)

She's running it with me.

Kyle (60:54)

Just assumed that you were married. Do you get. Is there like a good part where you get like. All right, you did this half marathon here. You can go into Disney for free. Is there a discount? Anything?

Mike Wargon (61:03)

You get, like a shirt, a medal.

Ryan Rosillo (61:05)

There's a participation medal. Everybody that finishes gets a medal. I'm reading it right now.

Mike Wargon (61:09)

Banana.

Ryan Rosillo (61:09)

Yeah.

Kyle (61:10)

A cone shaped cup of water that you can't.

Ryan Rosillo (61:11)

Orange drink. Medium.

Mike Wargon (61:13)

Exactly.

Ryan Rosillo (61:17)

Look, man, you killed it. 10 out of 10 again. Mike, we'll check in with you again.

Kyle (61:21)

So is this one weekend? Is that it?

Mike Wargon (61:23)

One weekend.

Kyle (61:24)

So you're not going to miss a show for this. You're just. You're just. You'll be back.

Mike Wargon (61:27)

No, I'm missing Friday and Monday.

Kyle (61:28)

What?

Ceruti (61:29)

Yeah, I gotta talk to you about it. I gotta.

Ryan Rosillo (61:32)

Nobody check with me.

Mike Wargon (61:34)

Yeah, I talked to Serenity.

Kyle (61:35)

Oh, all right.

Ryan Rosillo (61:37)

Yeah. This thing's real. We're days away. All right, well, can you call in on Monday?

Mike Wargon (61:44)

No, probably not.

Kyle (61:45)

Yes.

Ryan Rosillo (61:48)

All right. That was stern.

Ceruti (61:50)

We'll do a Wednesday check in.

Kyle (61:51)

You know, gotta be stern.

Ryan Rosillo (61:53)

Yeah, I think I'm. Am I sensing attitude right now? I don't know what's going on. Is it just a scheduling thing or you're like. I mean, obviously, maybe the title shouldn't be the Wild Card and Wargons Marathon. Half marathon.

Mike Wargon (62:05)

Yeah. I'm just thinking Monday will probably be, like, in the parks.

Ryan Rosillo (62:08)

Yeah. All right, so it's a scheduling thing on your end. This isn't. You know, I just want to. I like to get levels of resistance.

Kyle (62:17)

Maybe just a selfie on your first mile so we can post that just when you're feeling good.

Mike Wargon (62:21)

Don't think I'm bringing my phone.

Ryan Rosillo (62:24)

All right.

Ceruti (62:25)

Just shut down after shutdown.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (62:27)

I'm done with this.

Ryan Rosillo (62:28)

Yeah, we need a picture.

Ceruti (62:29)

There'll be pictures. You're going to do the metal and the teeth thing. That's what we need.

Ryan Rosillo (62:32)

Yeah.

Kyle (62:32)

Buy one from Disney for like 50 bucks. How about that?

Ryan Rosillo (62:34)

I'm looking at some videos here of the woman crossing the finish line. This looks like the Paris Olympics. This is not. This is a first class operation. I like that.

Ceruti (62:42)

I know people that have done this former, like, because obviously espn, we had all the, you know, the Disney hookups wherever. People used to do that all the time. I don't know why, but no offense.

Kyle (62:54)

All right, let's tap down on marathons. We got nothing else.

Ceruti (62:58)

We just did overrated, underrated. Property related marathons like a month ago too.

Ryan Rosillo (63:02)

That.

Kyle (63:03)

That's 10 minutes on marathons. All right.

Ryan Rosillo (63:05)

My God. All right. That's ten minutes. Okay, what do we got? Time for a sit down. Hey fellas. Love the pod. Obviously not a Hooper. So let's say I'm like Mike Alstott with minimum talent. No lifting stats anymore, but can run a sub 7 mile regularly. We know about a half marathon you can sign up for here. Also used to be able to power clean £300, but I'm not bragging. You should brag about that. Live in the Midwest in a metro. Midwest. Metro that wins Super Bowls regularly. I live on the good side of the state line. Oh, okay. Anyway. You got it? I got it. We'll just leave it alone just in case. Anyway, we have a core group of guys. Has been friends since high school. Some before. Our buddy, let's call him Nate, name has already changed. Is going through one of the nastier divorces. I've seen real accusatory stuff and a lot of fighting, but that's just background. Nate told us he was going to see Gladiator 2 by himself on a Tuesday afternoon. I see movies by myself all the time, so that part is fine. We would agree. Yeah, doesn't. You don't need to be added to a watch list.

Ceruti (64:10)

Myself.

Ryan Rosillo (64:11)

You went to a movie? Yeah. You did it recently?

Ceruti (64:13)

Yeah, I was the gladiator too. By myself.

Kyle (64:15)

I haven't done it yet, but you really pumped me up and I feel good about doing it in the future. So that was. That was a day when I got some real life advice.

Ryan Rosillo (64:22)

Yeah. I mean, again, I can't understand why people. I think if you hate the idea, you should make yourself do it. It's like running. It's like a marathon. All right. So just can't get away from it. He checks his. So all that part is fine. He checks his phone at the end of the movie and finds out his wife is pulling legal shenanigans. Per him parentheses. He gets angry. He tells us he had a great one liner at the theater. Here is the text. I got an awesome one liner out. I was so angry reading the emails at the end of the movie. Went to take a piss and some old ass man next to me was two and didn't wash his hands. I walked out and his wife was there and I said, you gross ass husband. Doesn't wash his hands. Look out for piss. And she just looked mortified. The emailer continues. This Is insane behavior. Right? I think it might be made up, but that's even worse. And what scenario is that funny or even something to brag about. Do we need to have a chat with him and tell him to chill? We already give him a lot of shit because he pays for Twitter to boost his engagement. Not a joke. But at what point is it too much? Walking a fine line because he's going through a lot. But I can't let weird behavior like this slide. Is it worth a full roast? Because that's actually what I want to do, or should I just let it go?

Kyle (65:44)

People hurt people, man. I don't know.

Ryan Rosillo (65:46)

Yeah, that's. That is insane behavior. I would. I would agree with that. I. And then to want to be that mad and then to do it and then do it to a stranger and then to do it to the stranger's wife and then feel like he won the day and then share it with all of you guys. Like, that's what I did. Still kicking ass. I mean, clearly Gladiator 2 affected him in a way that maybe not Ceruti was affected by it. Yeah, I just. I just think that stuff is like, really? That's totally overboard. That's. That's totally overboard.

Ceruti (66:17)

Is he. We were just talking about this before the pod. Is he trying to be like hand washing narc? Like the cart narc guy? Like, is he just. Is that like his thing to start calling people out in the bathroom for not washing hands? I don't know that that's a. That's a lane you want to. You want to be in. Even though I. It's disgusting.

Kyle (66:30)

The card narc guy is doing something good. I though. I mean, people may argue with his methods, but the root of it is good. This guy. I mean, just don't touch strangers hands if you're not. If you're, you know, kind of sign up for whatever if you do that. So just everyone keep your hands to yourself and it doesn't matter. So I think those are two different things. I think this is just a merciless joke thing. I don't know if you're like, you know, hey, man, we really need to talk about this or whatever. I think this is just. This is what terrible jokes are for. That guy's probably going home and crying anyway, right? He's got a lot of stuff like he's. He can't go to a movie by himself without, you know, getting emails about things changing and his passwords or whatever the hell's going on with the legal stuff. So I Think, you know, this was just misplaced aggression, obviously. But. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think this is a full. Like, we need to take a stock here. I think this is just jokes.

Ceruti (67:16)

I think the jokes thing might even be like, you just got to check on them. I don't.

Kyle (67:20)

Yeah, it might even be like, give them a little grace.

Ceruti (67:22)

Yeah.

Ryan Rosillo (67:23)

I think you need to have one friend in the group to be like. Just so you know, like, that's a total thing to do to somebody. Right. Like, you, you know, you're unhinged. You're aware of this. Like, you thought that was, like, why.

Ceruti (67:33)

Did you tell us?

Ryan Rosillo (67:34)

And. And by the way, it's probably not 100 true. You know, when guys can this kind of story be like, hey, guess what I did? You know? Yeah. And I get it. Like, you're going through a divorce. Even though I haven't been through one experience with many. Just the filing process of, like, they're saying I did what. I mean, it sucks. It absolutely sucks because both sides are trying to paint a picture to gain more sympathy when somebody has to decide who gets what. So in this case, like, you can understand of the root cause of why he would be this unhinged, but you need to. Anybody going through something. And, you know, as Kyle had said, the hurt people, hurt people thing, I mean, it is true. When somebody's like, just miserable and then has a mean streak in them, their goal is they want just everybody to be as miserable as they are. And maybe you attack it that way. So it's not even about the quote. It's just going, hey, what's your plan? It sucks. We're on your side. We're here for you. But, like, what's your plan? To bring society down around you?

Ceruti (68:44)

Just want to see the world burn.

Ryan Rosillo (68:45)

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe see Dogman next time. See a preview for that one, Kyle? No, it's a cop, but he's a dog with the attributes of a kung fu fighter.

Kyle (68:57)

No, it's not. Is that real?

Ryan Rosillo (68:59)

Would I lie to you?

Kyle (69:01)

I guess not.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (69:01)

Just.

Kyle (69:02)

I just saw a bunch of previews. Didn't see anything like that. Did see a ridiculous one about, like, a chimp who becomes a rock star. That looks terrible.

Ryan Rosillo (69:09)

Did you guys see that?

Ceruti (69:10)

Yeah. Isn't that supposed to be about Robbie Williams? That's a Robbie Williams biopic. But it's a chimp for some reason, right?

Kyle (69:16)

What the hell that is, dude. It looks fucking terrible.

Ceruti (69:19)

There is a movie coming out called Wolfman, which I'm a little intrigued by. Guy gets bit by a wolf, turns into a wolf, assume it's a werewolf.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (69:26)

Situation, but dog kills all this time, dude.

Ceruti (69:28)

Yeah, gotta watch out for the wolves.

Ryan Rosillo (69:31)

I'm trying to find a quick one here. Oh, I know. I know what it is. We got it for you right here. It's a very Ceruti based one here.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (69:44)

Yeah.

Ceruti (69:45)

Better man is the chimp movie. It's Robbie Williams.

Kyle (69:48)

Better Man.

Ceruti (69:49)

Yeah. Okay, so we have dog man, wolf.

Kyle (69:53)

Dude, that Better man thing looked absolutely insane.

Ryan Rosillo (69:56)

What's up guys? Gonna jump right into it. My buddies and I have a three person group chat that's almost exclusively for talking basketball. The three of us live here in Orlando, watch just about every Magic game, attend a fair amount of games per year. I've lost the ability to talk to them about sports based on their horrendous takes, and I need to know what the play is going forward. For example, both friends claim that Jayson Tatum was quote, carried to the Finals and would not be a star if not given his Celtics roster. That's horseshit. Both friends also believe that Rudy Gobert holds no value as a basketball player because he has, quote, no bag. While I agree the trade and contract were a little much for Rudy, his defensive presence along with his shot decision alteration can't be overlooked. At various points throughout last offseason and early this season, one or both have pleaded for the following. Trading Franz Wagner for LaMelo Ball. Trading Jalen Suggs for LaMelo Ball. I was waiting for Serti to make a noise trading away a 20 year old Anthony Black in a deal to acquire a player like Sexton Clarkston or Brogdon. Brogdon.

Ceruti (70:57)

I mean, you need new friends. That's about up.

Ryan Rosillo (71:00)

That's what I could offer. Cut all the minutes of Tristan Dime Silva. Although he's shown great promise as a rookie, I'm at a loss where to go from at this point. I can't hear any more about how Tatum is horrible and Rudy Gobert should be out of the NBA. I'm sure you guys have dealt with something along these lines before, so I'm asking, what's the play? Is it just to be a solo basketball watcher with nobody to discuss with, or is there room for potential reform? I'm hoping you all read this and knock some sense into these guys. Suruda, you want to take this one?

Ceruti (71:28)

There's no knocking any sense to them like this is. This is, I feel like a prevailing part of Twitter sports culture. I feel like everybody thinks that Go Bear sucks. Like the Tatum thing. I'M trying to think of, like, other takes like, that that are just, like, out there, that are dumb, but are just somehow like a. A take that people have that are casuals. I don't. I don't really like the word casual. I don't even like that I use that. But I don't know, like, do you. Do you not want any friends either? Like, are they. Are they good guys and, like, you know, do you go to topgolf with them? Are they fun? Like, are they good to go out with? Are they good wingman? Like, is this the only downfall that these guys have? Because if that's the case, then I don't know. Sports takes are. I don't. I don't like talking sports with people, like, outside of, like, our kind of group here, because it's just, like. I don't know. I don't really want to get into stuff, and it's kind of annoying, but, you know, it's obviously our job, so it's a little bit different. But if it's like, if you have to deal with bad sports takes and you have good friends, like, then I think it's kind of just something you got to overlook a little bit.

Kyle (72:20)

I could see maybe start, like, trying to push the chat in another direction. I mean, maybe it's like. I don't know, it's like a meme thing. I don't really have something like this. Like, I got this one guy who was sending me.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (72:36)

It was.

Kyle (72:36)

This was on Instagram, so it was a little different, but he was just sending me, like, cringe videos of, like. I don't know, it was just. But it was like, women doing, like, this guy. You have specific.

Ryan Rosillo (72:48)

Yeah.

Kyle (72:50)

And it was like, women doing, like, monologues and, like, making just. I don't know. It was just. I hated it. I hated it. He wouldn't stop. And then I just started sending him poop content, and he stopped. He's out. He's done. I know this isn't the same thing, but I just.

Ceruti (73:06)

You went lower. You just went.

Kyle (73:07)

I went lower, and it was like farts and poop. That's what I was sending him. I followed this page called World of Farts. They usually have some bangers. I send those to him, and I gotta say, the cringe stuff stopped. And I know it's not the same, but it's just the only thing I have to say on this.

Ryan Rosillo (73:26)

So what you're saying to the emailers that he needs to figure out what basketball takes that correlate with World of Farts.

Kyle (73:35)

So I guess, I don't know. I, I, it doesn't, they kind of run parallel. They don't really intersect but I don't know. It's the only thing I have for this.

Ryan Rosillo (73:43)

So maybe you throw like do we found find out a way to like do Paolo for the number one pick this year to reset the financial roster and Paolo's been hurt and you know, you might not want to extend them like just try to out world the fart their basketball takes.

Kyle (73:59)

Right. Because you're, your issue is you're taking them seriously. Right. And you're like you can't be serious. So maybe you just have to be completely unserious and it's a joke thing. I don't know.

Ryan Rosillo (74:08)

I know that the Rudy one's not terrible. I'm just kidding.

Ceruti (74:13)

I know that dissing first date these days, you know they like to like, you know, they like to bite back a little bit. But my, I will say my, my, my perspective and my not enjoyment of that show but just how I view that show changed when I just stopped taking it seriously. When you stop taking and that's hard for me because I do take things very seriously like sports, whatever it takes. Like I have a hard time of just like letting go like that. But when you, when you just kind of are like hey these guys are idiots and you just don't really let it bother you that way or you look at it through a different lens, it completely changes. And that's what first take was for me. As soon as I stopped looking at that it's like a serious sports show.

Kyle (74:47)

When you stop hate watching Skip Bayless.

Ceruti (74:49)

Yeah, yeah. Like as soon as it's like you know Shannon Sharp's threatening to fight somebody or whatever, it's like oh, this is actually, it's an entertaining show and just I think you could treat your friends. Is there a way you can just treat it as entertainment? Can you as you said like can you just send them like fake trades? Are there different things that you can just do to kind of like rev it up even more? Just kind of like have a personal after yourself because again I don't think it's worth like ending friendships over this unless they're also shitty friends.

Ryan Rosillo (75:11)

Yeah, I wouldn't end the friendship but those, the, the Tatum one actually the Clarkson trade or Brogdon for Anthony Black. Anthony Black.

Ceruti (75:20)

Lamelo. I feel like Lamelo thing like if you are a Lamelo guy that's a.

Ryan Rosillo (75:24)

Red flag for me personally lit it up last night. Beat the Suns cool lit it up. Fourth quarter Demon Gremlin maybe. All right. Thank you to Kyle, thank you to Ceruti, thank you to Oregon, who I cannot wait to talk about next week. Good luck, buddy. We'll be cheering you on. Maybe a virtual donation, a couple Disney bucks your way and spend it at Jelly Roll before last call. Woodford, too.

Ryan Fitzpatrick (75:53)

Disney bucks.

Ceruti (75:53)

You can get a Guinness at Epcot.

Ryan Rosillo (75:56)

Yeah. And then you can head right over to China. So that'll, that'll do it for the show. And we'll be on again Friday right after Ohio State Texas for a five day playoff football celebration with Van. With Van. Van Lathan. Sec Van. Tough one. Be a tough one for us. That'll do. Check us out on YouTube and subscribe to the podcast Ryan Russell podcast must be 21 and older president. Select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + in present in D.C. gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit MD gamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelp linema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY in New York.