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NFL Wild-Card Playoff Preview With Ryan Fitzpatrick, Plus I'm in Love With the OK(C)
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Ryan Rosillo
Foreign on today's podcast we go through all of the NFL playoff games with Ryan Fitzpatrick and we are fired up talk some football with him. So we'll kind of go back and forth with that. I'm going to do a little NBA in the open OKC in Cleveland tonight all time starts chasing history. How much people take a knee when chasing history now. But then a bigger picture thing on what I really like about Cleveland, what I love about OKC and certainly fair questions if you are doubting their chances of winning a championship. And we've got life advice and a massive update. It includes Disney, it includes marathons and includes Mike Oregon. This episode of the Ryan Rosilla podcast is presented by State Farm. Bring home a win with an affordable price when you bundle home and auto with the personal price plan. Talk to Estate Farm Agent today to learn how you can bundle and save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer, availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. There was a bunch of things that I wanted to get to with the NBA, but I'm so excited about this Oklahoma City Cleveland game tonight that, yeah, I'm I'm gonna watch more Kawhi before I talk about him. He looked actually fine, but you know, simple mistakes you'd expect from a guy that has a ton of rust. Just basketball stuff. Zion's first game back after missing two months hurting that Cleveland game. I know because I was there and he had some numbers and you know, even out of shape, Zion has some moments of physicality where you're just like, what the hell was that? Although he did lose a shoe. So we'll have to check Nike's market cap on the day, see if S can update us on that. So as I was prepping all the different things I want to talk about, obviously I would have done a lot on Denver and Boston, but Jokic didn't play. So I just want to talk about Oklahoma City and Cleveland and I want to talk about a bunch of different things. So right now, the way it stands, Cleveland's actually a 2 1/2 point favorite on FanDuel. They've both been off since Sunday, so you can't really play the excuse game if one side gets blown out with that one and there's no result tonight, there's no result. That's probably going to change how I feel about both teams and I'm going to get to how I feel about the Both teams here a little bit later on because, I mean, you can't do anything except admire the way these two teams have been playing basketball. Cleveland is 31 and 4 on pace for 73 wins. Oklahoma City at 30 and 5 on pace for 70 wins. Golden State to remind you, when they went 73. 9, they started 24. 0. That 24. 0 stretch, I think, is the best basketball I've ever seen from a team in my entire lifetime. And that includes the Jordan bulls. They went 36 and 2. They ended up 55 and 5 at one point. 55 and 5. Remember, they lost to Boston late in the regular season. And then when they had beaten him prior, earlier in the year, it was an overtime win. And there were reports that summer that free agency period in the NBA when they were pursuing Durant. I hope this was exaggerated and wasn't true or just some version got out that that was overstated, but that part of the pitch to Durant was that they had figured out solve the Golden State warriors because they went one and one against them. Although one on one against the warriors that year is, like, really good. I hope that wasn't really true. So when Cleveland was asked about this recently in being on pace, you know, for 73 wins, is it important to you? There's a bunch of different quotes, but the general theme felt as if it was the wrong thing to talk about. Because if anyone in Cleveland had said, you know what, we're going for 74, we're awesome, and let's just stay at like full tilt all season long, and that's kind of what you would have to do to. To get there. And I don't. I don't know that I like that. I don't like that. I know that no one can come out. Donovan Mitchell can't say, well, number one priority is 74 wins, and then we'll see what happens there. All right, if you said that, you would get crushed. But I think it wouldn't be so much what anyone from Cleveland would say, whether it be accurate, inaccurate, like misguided. It would be the way we've collectively treated records, the pursuit of records in sports, that I think is just a bummer. I'm going to go over a couple of these things now. Granted, when the warriors end up blowing a 31 lead to the Cavs, there was even some lingering discussion of, well, should they have gone for 73 wins? As if game five is when it kicked in. Game five is when it's happened. I mean, the OKC series probably took more out of Golden State than anything that happened during the regular season. But because a team went for the record and then didn't win the championship, it's like, oh, those fucking dopes. They had just won 68 games. They would have had another title. Well, if Draymond Green didn't do a bunch of different things and if a bunch of other guys, you know, and Steph stunk in the last game and, and again LeBron and Kyrie went crazy. And I still think it's the most impressive single championship of any team I'm giving you all time or solo history here today of any team that I've watched in the final. Considering who Golden State was and, and how great we all knew that they were, I know we're not allowed to say it because they lost the title and everything, but because that happened at Golden State, there became this, this kind of like, it wasn't just with that. There were other things that were happening that I'll get to, but I just think those of us that talk about sports for a living, and I think fans are guilty of this too. It's just like, oh, you tried to be awesome all year and then you didn't win it all. Losers. Saquon Barkley sat out the last game of the season. He was a hundred yards away from breaking Eric Dickerson's 40 year record of 2,105 rushing yards. Saquon needed 100. He wanted it, but he was like, ah, it's the right thing to do and everybody's just cool with it. Now there could be a technicality on that where it's like, well, I'm glad Saquon didn't play a 17th game when Dickerson did it in 16 games. So actually Dickerson should have still had the record that some of that genty Barry Sanders stuff that we were getting into. Remember the Colts when they started 2009, 14 0. Well, the Pats had just lost the super bowl recently after an undefeated season. And I remember talking about it and it was like, ah, well, you know, what's the point? I think even some of the Colts players like, well, we saw what happened to the Pats. So the Colts lost to the Jets. Curtis Painter got into that game. Manning actually played a lot. Then they lost because they already lost. They lost their, their 16th game and it, it was, it was almost applauded. I remember it, you know, against 15 years ago. It's like they've got it figured out. They're not trying to go 16 and 0. You're like, what the Hell's the point? Like, what's. What's wrong with trying to better yourself or better your organization? So, look, none of this really matters when it comes to OKC in Cleveland. I don't like when a team is keeping up this kind of pace and then you go back and you're like, wait, Golden State was 55 and 5. Like, maybe it's not even worth trying to pursue something like that. Here's what I really want to dig into, though. I like both teams a lot. I like OKC more, and I think I love okc. If we start with Cleveland and their number one offense, they're the number eight defense, they're the best shooting team by, you know, a gap. There's a. There's a gap in there. Usually those numbers are just so tight next to each other. And when you go through Cleveland's rotation, they have six guys that are shooting 40% or better from three, and that's without Strusk getting right. Who's back? Right. And our boy fan of the podcast, Sam Merrill. Numbers dipping below the standard that we all have for Sam. But this team just lights it up from outside. On top of having a top four that can match up with kind of like anybody's top four when you're just talking about talent from one all the way to four, Allen's clearly four out of those four guys. Garland's had the best stretch that he's ever had in his career. Mitchell's probably at peace for the first time in, like, five years because of actual career certainty, the uncertainty that was fueled by not only his decisions, but all of our inaccurate speculation about him probably wanting out of there at some point. He stayed. Everybody's happy, everybody's good. Mitchell's counting numbers. Like, you can look at this and go, oh, there's there a bit of a decline there for Mitchell? Well, the decline is because he's probably totally comfortable with where he's at in his basketball life. He's taking less shots, he's playing less. Minutes 36, 35 the last two years, minutes per game down to 31 this year because they're generally killing everybody they play. I want to find the fourth quarter stuff with Mobley and Allen in those splits that Atkinson has been on for for a good chunk of the season, because there's always going to be, like, a couple lingering thing I can point to any team. Like, even with Boston last year, I was like, if they get this elbow, stop everything on offense and stand there for 10 seconds, you know, that could be their undoing. Against another team that's dialed in defensively. And then it was like everybody got hurt in the East. Dallas was. Boston was, I should say, a terrible matchup for Dallas. They didn't even really need Porzingis, and it was ugly the entire way. Um, and. And Tatum, I think just even without the. The straightforward, like, all world playoff numbers, I think the way he dictated and controlled the game, playing center defensively, playing point guard on offense, you know, makes you. At least for me, it made me to appreciate him, like, at a. At a whole nother level. Not that I was going to just jump him ahead of a million different dudes. All right, so look back to Cleveland, Ryan, the Allen, Mobley, two bigs to close a play playoff game against another team that may not respect your spacing, even though there's so many spacing options. I wonder how Atkinson will play that. But we may not really even have an answer. Or maybe you don't have that question. So maybe I shouldn't generalize here, but may not have an answer to that question to, like, the second or third round of the playoffs in the East. As much as I try to find, like, what kind of tells are there there? Look, they're plus 14 and a half points in differential the last 15. They were over 15 points in differential in December. So even if you go to the Denver game where it's like Mobley starts the fourth, they bring in Allen at 7:21. And then they were up 15 when they brought Moly back in with three minutes left. Like, it's hard to even find the fourth quarters that matter because they're destroying everyone. So that's the question that I'm going to have with Cleveland, and I'm not going to have an answer of it until, like, May or June. On the other side of this, you have Oklahoma City. If I want to continue out of the question theme with Cleveland, I could say, like, hey, is Jalen Williams actually going to be good enough as a number two, like in the Western Conference finals, in the NBA Finals? Because that's the standard that we're talking about here. With a Thunder, do they have enough shot creation? Could they really use a guy like a Jordan Clarkson just to kind of come in and get your buckets? I think the Jalen stuff is fair. If you look at just the counting numbers from his playoff run last year in 10 games, they're probably better than you would think, which is why I think stats lie more than our eyes do. Stats, people would tell you this other way around. Who knows? All Right. Because I think with Jalen, it's a 16 point, 14 point, 12 point stretch in Games 3, 4, and 5 against Dallas. My eyes at the time told me he was not to the level that we needed him to be at as the number two scorer for a team potentially looking. Look, they're the 1 seed, 57 wins. If you're thinking about winning an NBA championship, your number two has to be a guy that's able to get you buckets when everything else is falling apart. All right? That's who the special players are. That's who SGA has been now for a long time. And he does it all season long with Jalen. All right? You know, it's his first run through it, and I think it's totally fair to see somebody not play well in the playoffs. And you're like, okay, fine, that's what happened. But he's a young, young player. He's super talented. He's put up numbers every other time. I think he's probably going to be fine once he gets a chance at it. And ironically, you can point to his teammate in SGA as somebody that didn't look super comfortable when he started his playoff run. Whether it's the Clippers Pelican stuff where I, you know, I just would completely dismiss that. But I think the 2020 series, where it was OKC against Houston, went seven games. Chris Paul, OKC, SGA, in a handful of those games, looked like a dude, I don't want to say scared, because that's a little harsh, but let's say deferential. He was okay. He was willing to defer in some of those moments, and now he's turned into a, what, top three, top four player in the NBA. So it can happen. Even some of the really, you know, we're not talking Magic Bird here, but like, some of the really special players, there's. There's some playoff resume stuff in the beginning where they just were not up to the challenge. So to assume that's who Jalen Williams is now forever would be a huge mistake because it would have been a mistake with his teammate. But the thing I love about OKC the most, and I've already touched on this a few times, is that every player that comes into the game always seems to make sense. He knows who he's supposed to be. I'd say even some of these guys, like, are willing to understand their own limitations, but ultimately they all play hard and they're all incredibly smart. There's never anybody, even when they're experimenting with some Stuff like they waved somebody the other day. I was like, oh, like, should another team just pick them up? Because they're so smart and they're so good at, like, building this culture where, you know, in today's NBA, to have this many young dudes, like 1 through 12, you know, every now and then the 13th guy gets in. You'd be like, oh, he plays his ass off and knows where to be positionally and knows which shots to take and which shots to turn down. I mean, this is impossible to do in today's NBA. And they're doing it. Watch them. Anticipate the high pick and roll that everybody runs. Like almost every play in the league. You know, I know everybody can talk about there's more variety than ever before. Like, there's also a million pick and rolls at the top of the key. And, you know, you can pretend there's all this different stuff happening off of it, but like, the first thing that happens is very similar in a lot of these basketball games. And it's kind of like what happens when the first action, are you at a disadvantage or have you shut them off? And what Oklahoma City seems to do, especially when it really matters, is they shut down. Your first thing that you want to do, and now you're resetting and now you're lost. Now you're up against a shot clock and now you're trying to swing the ball to your shot maker to like bail you out of the bad possession. They did it to the Knicks. They did it to the Celtics on Sunday. The Boston Celtics scored 27 points in the second half. That Houston cup game, to me, is still horrifying. The Rockets couldn't even get entry passes in the early game in the season against Wemby. They. They ruined him for two hours. Now, again, like, Wemby's fine, but for a game, every dude knew when to help and when to not help too much and when to run at the ball and swipe. Like, if you wait around against Oklahoma City, you are screwed. And to get all of these players to buy in like this at this stage of where this franchise is developmentally, because it's actually still kind of new, right? It's remarkable. It just. I cannot express. Well, I'm trying to, but for the basketball world of like the buy in and hey, man, the way this works, the way we can actually get a title, is like, everybody has to be locked in and everybody has to be on the same page. When you see them defend a high pick and roll, you can see the guy defending the screener like anticipating and thinking of his plan and then somebody on his side is already looking to help, but still like making sure it's not just reckless help to the ball and then screwing up. And now you're in rotation, you're chasing the ball all around. I I can't believe it. I There you go. That's my love letter. And they're doing this all without Caruso for a couple Weeks and Chet 18 mile Homegren, who may actually end up being their second best player. So yes, if it sounds like I like the Thunder a little bit more than the Cavs, it's because I do. I have no idea what will happen tonight. It's one game. Football fans buckle up because for the first time ever, we've got five straight days of playoff football. And FanDuel is celebrating with the great playoff payoff. That's a no sweat same game parlay every day for all five days with a no sweat same game parlay. 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Call 1-800-gambler or visit rg-help.com let's get ready for the NFL playoffs and let's get ready with Brian Fitzpatrick, who you can join for the wild card pregame show on Prime Video this Saturday night at 7:30 Eastern, followed by the Steelers and Ravens game at 8. Also check out his pod with Andrew Whitworth, Fitz and Whitney, wherever you get your podcast. Good to check in again, man. How are you?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, good. How are you? How. I mean, I know you're in la. How are the fires near you? You okay or.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. I'm south of it, but it's just awful, you know. So I, I have, you know, I. You kind of get updates from buddies living in different areas and people are losing their houses and it's just, it's awful.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
So, yeah, yeah, we've got a bunch of the Amazon crew is kind of in that area and we've been really, you know, trying to catch up with people all day because it just, it's devastating to watch on the news.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. I mean, where I live, you know, I'm not exposed to it, but when you see it happen, when you see the Malibu fires for the vantage point, you just see like this area to the north just all on fire and smoke. And then I got up this morning and walked outside and I couldn't breathe for a little bit and I thought, whoa, this is because it was so dark. Yeah. I was like looking around going, okay. And then again, I have my, I have no complaints because of my situation. But yeah, it's just, it's brutal. It's such a big area and then just to see it. So, you know, once I get done today, kind of making, making more phone calls and making the rounds and checking on people. So tough. So you guys will be going into a game with Baltimore, Pittsburgh, where look like when they've played the first time through and you look at all the Lamar numbers against them, you look at the overall record, even though he had like missed four games because of various reasons, when they lost to Pittsburgh the first time, I was like, what is like, I give up. Right. Because I thought there was a significant gap between the two Teams field goal kicking a huge part of it, and then they win the rematch. And, you know, look, maybe the score looks a little more lopsided than it was because it's just a fight. But do you think Baltimore finally, like, mentally has figured it out where you don't give Pittsburgh much of a chance in this game?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Well, I mean, division games are tough, right? And it is. It's so interesting. That first game, that was the. You know, the one was Pittsburgh. One was six field goals. And you start, you know, we're doing our preparation for this game. You start looking at the numbers. Like you're saying, I mean, the Steelers have won eight of the last 10, the Steelers have won four, the last five in Baltimore, and you're scratching your head going, how is this even possible? But the way they won that first game, you know, with turnovers, with timely sacks, with timely plays, and even, you know, pointing to, like, the Cincinnati game at the end of the year, you know, a ball bounces off somebody's foot on a punt, those are the type of things that are going to have to happen in this game. They're going to have to go the way of the Steelers, but, you know, we've kind of seen that for the last few years with them. They put themselves in good situations. And, you know, Lamar, this is. This is it for him. They've had a great season. They're on a run right now. These last four games after the buy, they've been playing awesome football. Todd Monken now being there another year with him, Derrick Henry and how strong he is right now, I just. It seems like this is the year for the Ravens, but probably the opponent they didn't want to see in the playoffs because of all the division stuff.
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Ryan Rosillo
What do you think is fair about Russell Wilson? Because, you know, one part is the defense is not even close to being what it was for two thirds of the season. The Pickens games where he was out for three, and then, look, it wasn't like he was awesome to finish the season in the last game. And he seems to be somebody that can maybe let the game bother him so much that he's almost taken himself out of it a little bit, despite his enormous talent. So I felt like a lot of the Russell Wilson stuff was really, like, unfair and ignoring other factors. But at the same time, and unfortunately for Russell and the Steelers throughout this entire season, in this run, where you're like, okay, nice job, guys. But, like, look at the other quarterbacks. So there's clearly a ceiling with Wilson. So I'm just kind of wondering how you see it because I think some of the criticism was ignoring other major factors for their decline.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Well, the first thing on Pickens, I'll say we all know he's an all world talent but everybody has taken notice of, you know, poking and prodding and bothering him a little bit and getting him out of his game. And you're going to see more of that. Right? That's, that's something that is talked about in meetings going into a game because he is a guy that can break open a game. With Russell Wilson, what I've seen, especially the last four weeks, he's one of the best deep ball throwers ever and he's shown that again this year. But what you've seen defense is doing, if it's not press man, cover one on the outside, whether he's throwing it to Pickens or Calvin Austin, then he struggled a little bit and you know the formula that has been used and I think that the formula you're going to see because it's what Baltimore's kind of done this back half of the year rush for play different types of zone coverage and let's make Russ kind of beat us getting the ball out. Quick reading and Baltimore's been very good at getting pressure on quarterbacks with a four man rush this year. And you know, Russ has had a hard time playing in the pocket and throwing on time. When he does, he's kind of throwing the check down. So now you're seeing people hugging the backs, not giving him press one on one coverage and that's where he's running around and escaping the pocket. It leads to a lot of throwaways now and you know, for as dynamic as Russ was earlier in his career and being able to create plays off schedule like that, it hasn't been the same at the back end of this year. So I think that's what you're seeing and what you've seen the last little bit. But if they have an opportunity to throw it deep, they've got to take the chance. And whether that's a third and 1, 2, 3 and you're getting some of that, man, those are the ways they're going to make their chunk yards in this game and they're not going to have many opportunities with the way Baltimore's been playing deep defense.
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Ryan Rosillo
Did you have. Well, I'm sure like all quarterbacks you have throws you love. Like I always love those mic'd up things and they're talking to the quarterback and they've got the sheet and it's like, what do you like? You know, like, well, I, you know, I like this. Did you have moments where you were like, damn it, they know. They know what I don't want to throw. They know. They know. Like, this is not one of my go tos.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, I mean, I.
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Ryan Rosillo
So.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
So for Russ, Russ lives on the outside, throwing the ball to the outside and, you know, outside the numbers, essentially. He's been really good at that throughout his career, and that's kind of where he's lived this year as well. For me, it was always inside the numbers, you know, and so when you look at an offense like Shanahan's, like Brock, Purdy and Tua, and the way that they feast in the middle of the field, you try to take that away and make them throw to the outside. Russ is almost the opposite where we're going to take away the deep sideline throws because he's so effective and good at him. And this is what this team thrives on, you know, and play the zones and make them read the coverages over the middle. But the other thing that I'll say that I think is going to be interesting, this game, Pittsburgh, they. They're coming after Lamar, they're going to blitz them, they're going to try to get pressure on him and, you know, if there's anybody that knows his weaknesses and the way to get after him a little bit, it's going to be Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay? So normally I wouldn't spend this much time on all the games that we have, but because it's your game, and this might be the most important part of it is that the drop off to the playoffs has been real for Lamar, and the talk is always, okay, blitz them. You know, it does seem weird to say about the MVP at that position to go, okay, make them throw in a playoff game, but that's why they moved on from Greg Roman, is that they want to look different. There's a lot of people who believe that he is. He's playing the game before the snap better than he ever has before because he's able to adapt to the straightforward approach that has basically stopped him in the playoffs. So what. What have you seen in kind of your expectation? Because you're right, the Steelers thing just throws a wrench into this hole. Like, imagine if Lamar loses the Steelers and it doesn't look good. And it's like, it might not be that he hasn't developed enough. It could just be that it's this matchup, but more back to the original question of, like, what you see in kind of preparation of your expectations.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah. I mean, Lamar just had one of the best seasons we've ever seen a quarterback play, you know, in terms of his productivity, in terms of, you know, the. The limited interceptions and turning the ball over. He's really comfortable in this offense now. So I think those are all big things. But that question does remain. Can he do it in the playoffs? You know, he's even talked about just not being so antsy and hyped up and just calming down and playing his normal game. I think maybe getting him running a little bit early. You know, for me, if there was ever some anxiety or anxiousness, like maybe getting a run and getting that first hit in just kind of let you breathe and relax and say, okay, this is. This is a football game. This is what I know. But I'm excited to see a man because this is, I think, the best team that they've had, and they're playing their best ball right now at the end of the season. So he's been pretty unflappable this year. And, you know, the Zay Flowers thing, if he's not playing, that could be a big factor in the game. But Derek Henry has been so good running the ball this year, especially yards after contact. It's been unbelievable. And he's a guy that just continues to defy this aging running back thing where he's playing better right now than he ever has.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. And just two hours ago, it was reported Zay Flowers is still a long shot. And you're absolutely right. Like, that's just. That's huge because he's. He just opened so much up for him. All right, let's talk a little Houston Chargers here.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Okay.
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Ryan Rosillo
Now, there's some stuff with Houston where you could look at, like, some of the defensive numbers and be really excited about it. And then you look at some of the other ones, you're like, okay, what's going on? And then if you look at the Stroud year by year thing, and this is where it becomes, like, really nasty and political, where it's like, oh, I thought everybody liked this guy. It's like, I did really like him. And I still think the arm talent there. There still throws a C.J. stroud over the course of a game where I'm like, oh, my God. Right. But the numbers are down. There's a decline on those. But then it can be just perhaps directly correlation to the offensive line having Nico out. You know, like, there's a lot of excuses you can make for CJ I'm just wondering how you see him from year one to year two and expectation of a playoff game.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, there's, there's a lot of excuses that can be made and, and it's for everybody too, right? Because even on the other side, Justin Herbert's been banged up this year and you know, how much is the ankle affected him and. But you, you know, for Stroud, the first thing I'll say about him is he, when he throws the football, it is more effortless than anybody in the NFL. It's. If I'm teaching my kids how to throw a football, I want to have them watch CJ Stroud throw a ball. It is unbelievable the way that it comes out of his hand. I think he had an amazing year last year, gone through some struggles this year, but, you know, they still got into the playoffs. We think about how far they've come in the last two years from what it was before he got there to what it is now. I think Diggs getting injured really hurt them. Obviously, Tank now, Dell now being down really hurts them. But this is going to be a heavy dose of Nico Collins and Joe Mixon, and unfortunately, the vibes aren't high right now in Houston and in that locker room. They've really struggled. They've struggled to protect him, but they're going to have to have a game where they play great on defense. You know, the Chargers, maybe this does become a defensive battle, but Justin Herbert, the last two weeks has been playing really good football, too. So I think this is, this is the matchup maybe people are most unsure about in terms of which way it's going to go, but I would say the Chargers probably have the upper hand here and then, you know, whoever wins this game probably gets the, the present of going to play the Chiefs.
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Ryan Rosillo
Do you feel really good about just one single team in the, in the playoff field here?
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
I mean, everybody, everybody has their question marks, you know, I mean, even, even Detroit, who has been so dominant this year, the defensive injuries just scare me. The risk reward, all the man coverage, you know, will they be able to keep up and outscore everybody? I thought the, the Buffalo game was awesome, but that might be an indication of what's going to happen in a few of these games for them. That's why this year is so interesting, though. Everybody has their flaws. Everybody has their flaws. And I just feel like whoever comes out of the AFC is going to win the super bowl and it's, you know, I'm not making any bold predictions here. All Year it's kind of been Chiefs, Ravens, Bills. Those have been the three teams we've all been looking at. You know me, I'm a homer. I enjoy the Bills of those three, for sure. But I think Baltimore set up to make a real run right now.
- [30:54]
Ryan Rosillo
Cause I, I know it's like a default every year of like, hey, even the best teams have this. But it. Just because of the Chiefs thing all year, right? Like, I know I should just pick the Chiefs. I might, I might just do it. I mean, beginning of the year, I had Bills, packers, so I'm still alive. I'm still in this thing. Although, you know, with my Oregon call, even though I didn't want to pick him against Ohio State, sometimes you're like, well, I said it in the summer, so I have to do it again.
- [31:17]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Stick with it. Yeah. Well, for me, the cheat, you, the Chiefs, we had them against the Raiders, and they walked off that field at the end of the game. They just had a really, a couple of really bad games. They won them all. Of course, the Denver game, the Raiders game, they were just walking off that field and it's like, God, this doesn't look like a team that is primed for a run. And then all of a sudden they have a couple good games and vibes are high again. And, you know, I, I want to sit there and double down on the. Well, the Chiefs aren't going to do this and that, but, gosh, they, they look like they're primed to make another run right now.
- [31:53]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Sometimes I think this game is as simple as if you need to convert, like third and seven, or if you need to get your 20 yards to get into field goal range, or if you need to convert a third and two and run out the clock. Like, if you can do those three things and you, you just have the absolute trust. And of course, Mahomes is the best in the business, so that's the guy you trust the most. But in all of those moments, you're just like, yeah, they'll. They'll get it. And then they do. And, and like last year, it was kind of funny because, you know, one of your favorite sports moments you could have as a fan is just Mahomes down four, right? Down four is when it's really fun. And those late drives and they actually didn't work out across, but they were terrible for a bunch of different reasons. And all those scenarios, and it's like, hey, my favorite scenario is actually not working with the guy. That's the man. And then you're like, maybe there's maybe, maybe something's wrong. And then they just turn into a completely different team in the playoffs. So it's just horrifying to think about picking against them because you just. They deserve the benefit of the doubt.
- [32:54]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah. And I, and you know, as, as being part of a team, when you have a quarterback that you can sit back there and you know, when you have the ball at the end of the game, say, gosh, we're going to go and win this thing, there's no doubt in my mind. That's when you know you have a guy and I'll just say, you know, Washington, watching Washington all year and Jaden Daniels and how he's been able to come in and look unflappable. And in the game's biggest moments, it just seems like he is at his best and he is most calm. It's been so crazy to watch him this year perform. I think he's the runaway offensive rookie of the year and there's some other great candidates. I hate the discussions of, well, if you like him, you can't like anybody else. I mean, Bo Nix has had an unbelievable season. Brock Bowers had an unbelievable season. Malik Neighbors, there's a bunch of guys. But Jayden Daniels, because of what you were just talking about, when you need a third down, when you need a fourth down, when you need a thing at the end of the game, it just seems like they have the utmost confidence in him and he's been able to turn around not just a team but a city and a complete franchise in one year by the way that he plays football. And it's been amazing to watch.
- [34:04]
Ryan Rosillo
I love the way that Jaden's story closed too, because, you know, I do always worry about some of the rookie quarterbacks to start putting up really good numbers early on because I think for some we've seen historically there is a correction on the quarterback where it's like, remember when that guy was kind of like lighting it up and then everybody figured him out a little bit. Then there was some second half stuff with Jaden where you thought, you know, is something going? And then he just, he becomes one of those players. I think towards the end of the year it's like this guy's just going to save you week to week. You know, it doesn't have to happen every single week.
- [34:35]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Right.
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Ryan Rosillo
That can turn into like, hey, I thought this guy was good. But that you have that in you as a quarterback, as a rookie and to pull out some of those games towards the end of the season again in such dramatic fashion. It's. It's pretty special, I guess. It sounds like Janie would be your guy. Where is Bo Nix on the rookie rankings for you as they get ready for Buffalo?
- [34:54]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
He's been unbelievable and he. He just continues to surprise me, I guess is the way that I would put it. We got to have them twice this year, and in the first game, it was against the Saints in New Orleans. It was. They won, but it was very up and down performance. He was kind of looking around, running, missed a few passes, relied on his legs, maybe a little too much, but he's a great scrambler, so that part is a big part of what he does. And then he went on a run after that in terms of, you know, throwing, I think it was like 15 touchdowns and one interception or something. It was an amazing run. And then he'll have his moments where he'll remind you that he's a rookie. But I think it's a great marriage. I think as a quarterback, the situation matters a lot. And for him to be lucky enough to be drafted by Denver because of the coach, because of Sean Payton, the way he puts him in great situations, and then Bo can create. I mean, he's a very creative quarterback. And they're going to be a problem. You know, Buffalo, it's going to be an interesting game. I think it matches up well for Buffalo only because the strengths of Denver getting after the passer, and Buffalo has been really good at that all year. A lot of that's been their offensive line, and some of that's been Josh. When it's not perfect, Josh is able to create and get outside the pocket. And then Patrick Certain is one of the best players, defensive players, and players in general in the National Football League, but there's not really one guy that he has to take away in that Buffalo game. And so I think some of those big strengths that you look at in Denver and their defense and what they do well, Buffalo kind of neutralizes that because of the strengths that they have as an offense.
- [36:36]
Ryan Rosillo
That Denver pass rush, I think is like one of the most underrated units in the NFL. And I remember like earlier this year, just watching Zach Allen and just how much he popped and how much he popped at his size, too. And you're like, that dude is thick. Thick. And he's moving like that.
- [36:52]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Is that J.J. watt? No. No, that's not. Okay. Yeah, no, J.J. 's not playing for Denver.
- [36:56]
Ryan Rosillo
Right. Is this a commercial? They get him a costume from the Broncos because, I mean, Look, I think prime JJ Watt over those three years was like horror because I think he stayed mad the whole three plus hours, which is really hard to do. Like you're still this pissed off. This is amazing.
- [37:10]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Well, I, so I, I play with JJ in 2014 and I'll, I still will go down as saying, you know, in my 17 years and my nine teams, that was the best season JJ 2014 that I've ever seen one of my teammates have. He was unbelievable. I think he finished runner up by a few votes to Aaron Rodgers that year as the league mvp, but that was year. He was scoring touchdowns on offense, he was scoring touchdowns on defense, he was getting after the quarterback and it was just so amazing to watch those peak jj.
- [37:37]
Ryan Rosillo
I couldn't, I'm just like sitting here gushing about it, thinking back to it, because the intensity, the edge and intensity that he played with consistently through all 60 minutes feels almost like unobtainable. Like you must have had guys on the sideline just going, what is this guy made of? Like, how, how can he be this dialed in consistently all, all season long? And again it was over the course of multiple years. It was just, I mean, look, nobody's Aaron Donald, so don't, we don't have to worry about that part of it. But like just his rage.
- [38:10]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Well, anyway, it was also the, the timing of when he made plays. And I'll never forget being in Houston and every time they needed a player, we needed to play on defense, they put on. I think maybe it's little John, but they put on turn down for what? And everybody just went wild because it became turned down for Watt. And they were saying, all right, jj, time to make a play. And then sure enough, third down, he made the play. He got, he got us off the field. He made an interception. He did something crazy, but pretty fun memories. Every time I hear that song, I think about him and the time in Houston.
- [38:45]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, that actually worked out pretty well for him. Um, but, you know, it's close enough, right? Let's stay on Tampa then with Washington because, you know, on Monday I was talking about Tampa, where I go. You know, I feel like I've been, I don't think dismissive is the right word because it's not like I don't respect the offensive profile. This Baker turnaround is, is one of the all timers, Mike Evans part of this. Just keep, just keep doing it. And I love Bucky Irving. So, like there's a lot of things about this team I really like, but they haven't Won a million games over this stretch to fight winning the division. And then when you look at some of the division numbers, you can make an argument it's like they score like a touchdown more per game when they were playing NFC south teams as opposed to outside of it. And Washington, I think defensively is, is somewhat, you know, they're, they're, they're middle of the pack. Even though I like so much of their personnel. Yeah, there's a lot in the front seven that I really like for them, so just go ahead and pick.
- [39:39]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Well, I mean, you talk about Tampa, Tampa has been up and down this year, right? But Tampa has beat Detroit and they have beat Philly. And so you look at a couple of those wins and you're going, gosh, wait, they have, they beat both those teams. But the thing about Tampa, you know, I think defensively it's been a struggle this year, more than on the offensive end. And what I like about Tampa, Todd Bowles, this is now you're just playing these games three hours, and Todd Bowles is going to be able to scheme, he's going to be able to create pressure. And I'm not too concerned about their defense in the playoffs because of that. Because being around Todd, I was with him for two years in New York. Richard Sherman, being with him in Tampa, you know, loves the way that he can go and attack, you know, in a playoff type atmosphere, and he's done it before. But Liam Cohen deserves a lot of credit for the Bucks and what they've done this year. Offensively, Baker's been unbelievable, Mike's been unbelievable. But they lose Chris Godwin, you know, that was a huge loss for them and kind of this. I didn't know much about Buggy Irving before this year, so that was a huge surprise for me. But oh, my goodness, especially early on, too, the way they were able to scheme stuff with two running backs on the field at the same time and just utilizing the personnel that they had for the week. Liam Cohen's been amazing. But I'll just say this, too. I'm going to pick Tampa in this game. I loved week 18. Baker, they're struggling. You know, they need to pick up a win. They're not playing well versus New Orleans. They come out in the second half and that play, the first, third down, where he takes off, he lowers his shoulder and that wasn't the end of it. He gets up, he stands over the dude, he causes a fight, he walks away to the sideline. Tristan Wurfs is there, you know, shoving people the Whole Tampa offense is over there fighting New Orleans defense. It's like the dude just understands football. He gets it. He understands how to provide a spark. He understands how to get his guys going. And those dudes love playing for Baker Mayfield. So I'm going to go with Tampa in this game, although I think it's going to be one of the more intriguing quarterback matchups of the first round.
- [41:48]
Ryan Rosillo
All right, I. I love that you point to that play.
- [41:53]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
It's the.
- [41:54]
Ryan Rosillo
It was the best man, because you just nailed it. Like, you nailed it from the perspective of somebody that's coming out of the tunnel. And then you need something like that, because it's also this weird dynamic where you're like, Atlanta's not losing to Carolina. Like, if you're Tampa and you're down at the half, New Orleans, you don't think they're going to actually lose to Carolina. Except the Bryce Young story continues. The funniest part about that play is Harris the defender for the Saints. Baker didn't go down, so Harris hit him. And then Baker acted as if.
- [42:25]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
I'm telling you, he came out of the huddle or out of the tunnel at halftime thinking, like, all right, I got to do something. And so, you know, the run was not a surprise, but it was the standing over him that was. He did that intentionally, you know, to get the guys going.
- [42:40]
Ryan Rosillo
Oh, yeah.
- [42:40]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Which was. Which is why he loved Baker.
- [42:43]
Ryan Rosillo
I love that line that you just gave us, though. He gets football. Green Bay, Philadelphia. Week one was one of the best games of the season.
- [42:50]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah.
- [42:51]
Ryan Rosillo
And I remember, you know, doing the pod the next morning. I was like, I think the important thing to say is, hey, I think both of these teams are really good from a personnel standpoint. It would have been shocking if they had disappointing seasons and listed let health. But, you know, Philadelphia's completely turned around this defense from where they were last year. You know, the Green Bay, Minnesota stuff kind of. Kind of bothered me because I felt like both games played out where. Even the first game where they come back and make it look close, it was a million mistakes. I think Minnesota just kicked their ass the second time around, and then they get a couple late scores when you know that the defense is just not going to be as tuned up when the score is that way. So, you know, the Hertz part of it's a huge deal. I think it feels like people are leaning toward the fact that he's going to play even though he's still in concussion protocol. So just go in any direction you want.
- [43:36]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, I Mean, Philly might be the most complete team in the playoffs. You know, it's been awesome to see Fangio come in and the way their defense has performed, I think. And, you know, my guy Andrew Whitworth always wants to talk about the trenches, and I think Philly has the best combination of defensive line and offensive line in the NFL. And so the. The Saquon stuff this year has been great. You want to talk about a guy that everybody across the NFL cheers for just because of the human being that he is, but what an amazing player. So to be able to showcase his talents this year and do what he's done in Philadelphia has been awesome. I'm not concerned about Jalen Hurts not playing. I think he'll be in the game. It's been a couple of weeks, and, you know, with him, I think it's been up and down a little bit this year. But I go back to watching that super bowl, and, you know, other than the one play, the fumble that was. That was one of the more impressive quarterback performances I've ever seen in a Super bowl, certainly in a losing effort. And so they have skill all the way across the board. Jalen's shown that he can do it in the game's biggest moments. The Packers I've been so high on all year, they're so young, they're so fun. Josh Jacobs has been incredible. Their defense has played well at wide receiver. The Christian Watson injury hurts, but they're so deep at wide receiver. I would love to see Romeo Dobbs be more involved. Jaden Reed's kind of been quiet the last few weeks. You know, Wicks is the guy that's going to be able to step up, but then it all kind of falls on Jordan Love. I think they've done a great job this year putting him in position to be successful. And Matt lafor has done a great job calling the plays, even when you saw Willis come in for those two games, putting him in great situations to make plays. So it's going to come down to, can Jordan Love make those plays at the end of the game. I think he's been inconsistent with that. He obviously has shown that he can do it, but I don't know that the expectation right now is that he's going to do it with the Green Bay packers fans. So it's an intriguing game, but Jordan Love's going to have to show up and play really well in that game. I think his elbow is similar to what Josh Allen had. You know, the funny bone and just feeling weird for a Couple of hours. I think he'll be okay. But I love this packers team and, you know, I hope that Jordan can put on a great performance.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, Reed's been a little quiet. Dobbs has been. You know, he had the seven catches against Minnesota, but I'm telling you, he's.
- [46:08]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
He's going to be a super. I think he's going to be a superstar. Romeo Dobbs, when I watch his tape, when I watch, you know, how smooth he is off the line, is run after the catchability. I hope to see him get some more opportunities in this game, because when.
- [46:22]
Ryan Rosillo
They'Re rolling, it's like, oh, that guy. Oh, that guy. You know, like, especially, like, if you really know. And again, I'm talking more like a Packers fan just locked into their personnel. But for those of us that, you know, are paying attention to how you're putting together that receiver room, and then there's just these moments where like, oh, that's the diff. That's the different dude.
- [46:39]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, yeah, that's completely different job learning these names. Like, wait a minute. What? But, yeah, they just have playmakers across the board.
- [46:46]
Ryan Rosillo
Okay, final. Final couple thoughts here. We'll finish here soon. But I hate, like, whenever. It's the blueprint, you know, did so and so give you the blueprint? Did Detroit. I told myself I wasn't going to use the term.
- [47:01]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, well, I. I don't use the term. Is there anything to the way Detroit blueprint. Okay, well, I. I'll say this. You know, there's been some, you know, the same.
- [47:10]
Ryan Rosillo
You already know what the question is.
- [47:12]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, it's Sam. Sam Darnold. You know, we all know what happened with the jets, and I'm seeing goes versus the Patriots and all that. I'll say, like, he's been great against the blitz this year. He really has. But teams really haven't blitzed him a lot either. And I think part of it is they're really afraid of. If you blitz, you have less guys to cover and look at who they have on the outside. And part of it was early on in the season, it just wasn't successful and guys were getting gashed by the Vikings. So I think. I think it's a thing. I think they got after him early, and I think it caused some problems in that game. So I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams come after him a little bit more. And, you know, the Rams, since the bye week, have been blitzing more. That's been part of it. But the problem is you can do that. And you can come after Sam a little bit more. But again, you have less guys to guard Addison and Justin Jefferson, the greatest receiver on the planet. So I think it was a good wake up call for Minnesota to say, gosh, we got to have better answers. You know, Sam, I've got to have better answers when stuff like this happens. Go back to the drawing board and it'll help them prepare to hopefully make a run in the playoffs.
- [48:24]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, because I, what I didn't want to do because I felt like Minnesota in that spot against Detroit with the injuries, I'm like, okay, they'll, they'll get this one. And then when you see the swing as everybody listening understands like the 1 seed in the NFC as opposed to now, you're going on the road. Yeah, it's like, it's just a completely different level of challenge here. And so then I thought, okay, well this means you just have to go with Detroit out of the NFC again because I picked whatever this summer, we'll just see how it goes. But then it's like, well, maybe I'll just flip it, I'll just flip it to Philadelphia. And I'm like, man, this feels, this feels like, what else does Detroit need to do? Yeah, well, and Detroit get healthy overnight.
- [49:03]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah, but it's, it's those injuries. Okay, they're going to catch up to them. They're going to catch up to them and it's like they just continue to play so well on offense. And I give Aaron Glenn a lot of credit. They're aggressive on defense and that's the whole mentality of this football team. They're aggressive. And so you know, in order to beat them, you're going to have to do what Buffalo did and you're going to have to score 40 something points. And even when you're scoring 40 points, I mean, people kind of forget that game. Detroit started coming back and putting some pressure on Buffalo and Dawson Knox make this unbelievable one handed catch in the fourth quarter where it's like, even though Buffalo dominated that game, if you look at the final score and you kind of have that feeling of what was going on in the second half, it wasn't a blowout, it was. Detroit was putting pressure on them the whole second half to score every possession. So that's how you're going to have to beat Detroit this year. If you're going to beat him, it's going to be 35 plus points. And know you're going to have to get after Jared Goff, which people have a hard time get to him this year.
- [50:01]
Ryan Rosillo
That, that game for Allen may be my favorite game a quarterback had all season.
- [50:05]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Oh, it's great.
- [50:05]
Ryan Rosillo
Just because he was, he was doing stuff that you're just not supposed to be able to do in an NFL game where it's like, I'll just completely like single handedly figure this out.
- [50:15]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Well, and they teach you not to do some of the stuff he was doing too, right? I mean some of the, some of the throws, rolling right, throwing left, rolling left, throwing right. I mean he was just on another level, which, you know, maybe two of his, two of his best moments that game and obviously the Kansas City game and the run at the end of that game to put it to two scores were pretty incredible moments for him.
- [50:37]
Ryan Rosillo
Are you going to Buffalo?
- [50:39]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
I'm not kind of disappointed. I, you know, getting Buffalo to Baltimore is not the easiest flying wise. And then my daughter's got a birthday on Monday. Getting back from Buffalo to Arizona is not the easiest. So I'm hoping they win and maybe I can make it the next week, but I'm not going to be able to make it out this weekend.
- [50:58]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I think I knew I could tell you're hedging. You're hedging a bit. Like maybe, maybe I'll show up for a.
- [51:06]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Fingers crossed.
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Ryan Rosillo
Hey man, say hi to everybody. With the Amazon crew again, you can catch Ryan Fitzpatrick and the rest of the crew. That's going to be the wild guard pregame show. A prime video this Saturday night, 7:30 Eastern. Again, Steelers, Ravens, 8 Eastern. Enjoy the playoffs, man. Thanks.
- [51:22]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
All right, thanks Ryan.
- [51:27]
Ryan Rosillo
Just an update on the schedule. Because of the Ohio State Texas game, we're going to go on live after that. So we'll have like a full episode for you. But instead of releasing it part one in the morning, part two, we're just going to have the full episode and we'll be live ready to go right after Texas, Ohio State. I'm picking Ohio State because I don't want to pick against him anymore and I'm picking Penn State. So we get an all Big Ten jamboree and media members that graduated from Big Ten schools can rejoice forever. All right, here's what we got. Ohio State, four legs. Let's do it. Alt spread. Ohio State plus three and a half against Texas. That feels awesome, right? Will Howard 175 plus yards. Anybody come out and try to attack just like they did against Oregon, just like they did against Tennessee. The team is still angry, my friends, and I don't know why they would ever Just try to run it right at Texas D line. Will Howard's lowest passing total on the season is 175, and that was against Michigan. I forget what happened in the game. All right, give me golden. 50 plus yards. He's the number one target for Texas. He's had 73 plus yards in four of his last five games. The low total in that stretch, 49 yards against Clemson. I think if Texas is down, they've got to find Golden. You should be able to get 50 yards out of that. This one's a little dangerous. That's right. I am dangerous. G Scott. I love this cat. Not a huge part of the offense. Had a big catch against Oregon. Has felt like a little bit more of an option. Can we get 25 yards or more out of G. Scott? Those four all plugged in together is plus 5, 26 by the last number that I got when I did this about an hour ago. So there you go again. Reminder. We'll be posting Friday's pod right after the result of Ohio State in Texas.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
You want details? Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine, and best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.
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Ryan Rosillo
We've got Kyle. We've got Ceruti. Potentially worgon. It's life advice. Lifeadvicermail.com ceruti going with the high and sort of tight little Kendall Royish after another meltdown. What's going on with you?
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Ceruti
This is just my theory of, like, every couple times a year, you just got to mix it up a little bit. Mix the look up a little bit. I'll mix the mustache in. I'll cut the hair, I'll grow the hair out. Just kind of wanted to buzz it. It's also like, beanie season. It's freezing here in the northeast, so it's just easier when you put a beanie on. We don't have a lot of hair, so.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick
Home cut, would you?
- [54:10]
Ceruti
No, I got this one. This is my guy. My guy. Fantastic.
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Ryan Rosillo
Sam Hartford.
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Ceruti
No, no, downtown West Hartford.
- [54:15]
Ryan Rosillo
Good spot.
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Kyle
Okay.
- [54:19]
Ceruti
You like it? No, it doesn't seem like it. I love it.
- [54:24]
Kyle
It just seems like. I think it's. Think it probably feels awesome. The sides are great. It just feels like there's like a straight line going over, you know, kind of almost like a hairline thing, but it's not. And then there's Just like a little bit of fuzzies in the middle. Is that just length? Maybe it's just because I'm looking at this in 2D. Give me a little side turn. Oh, yeah. It looks better when you turn to the side.
- [54:44]
Ceruti
Thanks, man. Profiles better.
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Ryan Rosillo
Great profile.
- [54:46]
Ceruti
I don't have the straightest hairline in the world. I got good hair, but I don't have the straightest hairline. So sometimes that I don't get, like, edged up, you know, I just.
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Kyle
No, that was a. That was a 2D in a 3D world thing. That when you turn to the side, it looks good.
- [54:57]
Ceruti
Thanks, man. Appreciate it.
- [54:58]
Kyle
The Kendall Roy meltdown, that just seemed unnecessary.
- [55:00]
Ceruti
I don't think I'm going through. There's no crises going on in my life.
- [55:03]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
It just.
- [55:03]
Ryan Rosillo
I don't know. I don't know what you'd be like in a meltdown.
- [55:07]
Kyle
Just are so even super measured, probably. Yeah.
- [55:10]
Ryan Rosillo
Like, well, this sucks. That would be.
- [55:15]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Here's what I.
- [55:16]
Ryan Rosillo
If Cerutty has a meltdown, he's not posting about it.
- [55:20]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
True.
- [55:21]
Ryan Rosillo
On Instagram. Hey, dudes. Just thought I'd give you an update.
- [55:25]
Ceruti
Going through it right now. Could really use your help in comments. Yeah.
- [55:32]
Ryan Rosillo
And on top of that, my dog bills are through the roof, you know, just like, oh, cool, man. So you're bummed out. All right. Got it. Yeah. And I think, I think you were doing that. But yeah, Ceruti is kind of like an action figure if action figures were skinny fat. Because you have so many different. Like, hey, have you gotten Euro soccer Ceruti? Have you gotten winter hybrids?
- [56:00]
Kyle
New skins just dropped, right?
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Apple picking, Ceruti.
- [56:06]
Ceruti
Yeah, that is true. I will say. I, I. It's probably just me being a dad. Like, the ease of this haircut is pretty great. Get out of the shower. You don't really got to do much, you know.
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Ryan Rosillo
You like your styles, man. I do have, like.
- [56:20]
Kyle
I thought the last one really worked for you.
- [56:22]
Ceruti
Which one was that?
- [56:23]
Kyle
It was like, just. It was like the right amount of hair. Definitely more than we've got here. And I don't know if you're a hair powder guy or whatever it is. It looks like it definitely took a little something, but it didn't look like you try. It wasn't like, you know, like a construction helmet, like, you know, like one of those things. So I don't know, I wonder how long that, how long that would take you to get that all together before you leave the house.
- [56:43]
Ceruti
One of the casualties of, like, working at home. I feel like, is. I just. I just be. I wear a hat. I mean, you're wearing a hat guy. I just wear a hat, like every day. And it's because I'm just like. I don't really want to put any stuff in. I don't want to put any powder in it, whatever. And this is, you know, don't really got to do much, you know.
- [56:57]
Kyle
So you are a powder guy. I discovered the hair powder recently.
- [57:00]
Ceruti
It's way bad. Yeah.
- [57:01]
Kyle
Yeah. We don't have to talk about this.
- [57:04]
Ryan Rosillo
Why don't you want to talk about it?
- [57:05]
Kyle
I just. I feel like you don't have anything to say and, I don't know, just.
- [57:09]
Ryan Rosillo
Have a lot to offer. I felt bad about saying skinny fat. Now I don't.
- [57:16]
Ceruti
Oh, it's accurate. I've been thinking. Yeah, I was talking about. Because I was talking to my Wargon, actually. He's running a. He's running a half marathon next week.
- [57:23]
Ryan Rosillo
Oh. Yeah.
- [57:24]
Ceruti
FYI.
- [57:25]
Ryan Rosillo
Hey, Wargon marathon. Mike. Holy shit. Are you kidding me? Plug in, buddy. So go ahead, Serdy.
- [57:32]
Ceruti
No, it just got me thinking, like, I should probably start running again. So I was like, looking into those, like, you know, couch to 5K apps, because I just don't, you know, got to get the cardio up, so. But Wargon's got me beat, so I got. Maybe I could take some tips from him.
- [57:43]
Ryan Rosillo
What do we got?
- [57:43]
Mike Wargon
It's a half marathon, not a full guy.
- [57:45]
Ryan Rosillo
All right, but, you know, just halfway. 12 more miles and I'm going to run this month.
- [57:49]
Kyle
Correct?
- [57:51]
Ryan Rosillo
What? What are we talking about?
- [57:53]
Mike Wargon
It's Disney World, man. Where else would I go?
- [57:55]
Kyle
Wait, what?
- [57:57]
Ryan Rosillo
We might not even get to a question.
- [57:58]
Kyle
Are you going to have martinis on your way down there? You going to like. Are you going to skip the. You got to skip the lounge before you fly down.
- [58:03]
Mike Wargon
Flight's at 7am So I don't think that's my cards.
- [58:06]
Ryan Rosillo
Safe.
- [58:06]
Ceruti
Safe.
- [58:07]
Ryan Rosillo
What time you getting there? 11:00 the night before.
- [58:14]
Mike Wargon
If only.
- [58:16]
Ryan Rosillo
If only. So wait, what? Have you done one of these before? Have you ever done it? How does a Disney half marathon work? Explain it all. Leave out nothing.
- [58:24]
Mike Wargon
I couldn't tell you. This is my first one. Very first one.
- [58:27]
Kyle
That's a great question.
- [58:28]
Ceruti
Seemed like really good question.
- [58:30]
Mike Wargon
Ryan started running like four or five months ago.
- [58:33]
Ryan Rosillo
How you feeling?
- [58:33]
Mike Wargon
Just like three miles. I'm up to like, full half marathon now. I feel okay.
- [58:38]
Kyle
Did you start running before you booked the marathon? You were like, I'm doing so good. Or you booked it, so you had get your ass in gear. Holy shit.
- [58:45]
Ryan Rosillo
Yep.
- [58:45]
Ceruti
Exactly how much time was it to.
- [58:46]
Kyle
Live my life like you, man? I wish.
- [58:48]
Ceruti
How far out do you have to book it?
- [58:51]
Mike Wargon
I don't know. Maybe, like. I don't know why we booked the half mile.
- [58:54]
Ceruti
Like, were you a runner before this? Or you're just like, you know what? I'm just gonna run a marathon.
- [58:57]
Kyle
I came across your trip to Disney.
- [58:59]
Mike Wargon
I booked it wanting to, like, start running.
- [59:03]
Ceruti
Okay, wait, so how long you been training for? Like, how long did you get up to, you know, a half marathon?
- [59:08]
Mike Wargon
Four or five months maybe. Training is like a. So it's like, running, like, 30 minutes, you know, it's not.
- [59:12]
Kyle
I had no idea. Because you didn't post your routes like everyone else that does this, so I had no idea.
- [59:20]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Sensitive subject.
- [59:21]
Ceruti
Yeah.
- [59:21]
Mike Wargon
Keep it to myself.
- [59:22]
Kyle
Yeah, good for you.
- [59:24]
Ceruti
Did you run a marathon if you didn't post your routes and take pictures every single day? Yeah. Document your success along the way.
- [59:30]
Ryan Rosillo
Damn it. All right. Do you know you dress up for this? I'm looking at some pictures right now.
- [59:36]
Mike Wargon
I know people dress up for it. I will not be dressing up.
- [59:39]
Kyle
Not even the ears?
- [59:40]
Mike Wargon
Not even the ears, no.
- [59:41]
Kyle
Gotta wear the pin.
- [59:42]
Mike Wargon
Wear, like, a light hoodie.
- [59:44]
Kyle
Hey, this guy's not wearing the ribbon.
- [59:45]
Ryan Rosillo
Are you big? Yeah, go ahead.
- [59:47]
Mike Wargon
I'm a pretty big. I mean, I got a.
- [59:49]
Ceruti
That's right.
- [59:49]
Mike Wargon
Big Lion King tattoo.
- [59:50]
Ryan Rosillo
I don't know.
- [59:51]
Ceruti
That's right.
- [59:51]
Kyle
Oh, that's right. That means.
- [59:52]
Ceruti
Dumb question. Dumb question.
- [59:54]
Ryan Rosillo
Will you have a shirt that shows off the ink? No, no, Tank.
- [59:59]
Mike Wargon
It starts at 5am so it's got to be, you know, something warm.
- [60:04]
Kyle
Oh. Because you guys gotta be out of there by the time the park opens.
- [60:07]
Mike Wargon
Gotta be out of there.
- [60:08]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [60:08]
Ceruti
Dude, what is going on early?
- [60:12]
Ryan Rosillo
Is it okay to say. Sounds like a. Sounds like the worst thing ever?
- [60:18]
Mike Wargon
Yeah, I'm not looking forward.
- [60:19]
Kyle
And no espresso martinis, buddy.
- [60:20]
Ryan Rosillo
I don't.
- [60:22]
Mike Wargon
I mean, after the.
- [60:23]
Ryan Rosillo
Why are you doing this again?
- [60:24]
Ceruti
I don't actually have.
- [60:25]
Ryan Rosillo
The answer isn't good enough.
- [60:26]
Mike Wargon
I don't know. Feels like something that should have been good. And then I started running, and it's like, wow, running fucking sucks.
- [60:31]
Ryan Rosillo
Well, that part everybody understands. But then to put the Disney layer on it, and then there's the 5am so you can get out of there to get kids in there.
- [60:38]
Mike Wargon
Well, then you just get, like, a trip afterwards, which is nice.
- [60:40]
Ryan Rosillo
Okay. You like Disney World, though?
- [60:43]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Epcot?
- [60:44]
Ryan Rosillo
Did you get married at Epcot?
- [60:46]
Mike Wargon
No, I'm not married yet.
- [60:48]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. You're not married yet, dude.
- [60:49]
Kyle
Totally Mandela effect there. I was like, what does your wife think about this? I didn't even.
- [60:53]
Ryan Rosillo
I just.
- [60:53]
Mike Wargon
She's running it with me.
- [60:54]
Kyle
Just assumed that you were married. Do you get. Is there like a good part where you get like. All right, you did this half marathon here. You can go into Disney for free. Is there a discount? Anything?
- [61:03]
Mike Wargon
You get, like a shirt, a medal.
- [61:05]
Ryan Rosillo
There's a participation medal. Everybody that finishes gets a medal. I'm reading it right now.
- [61:09]
Mike Wargon
Banana.
- [61:10]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [61:10]
Kyle
A cone shaped cup of water that you can't.
- [61:12]
Ryan Rosillo
Orange drink. Medium.
- [61:13]
Mike Wargon
Exactly.
- [61:17]
Ryan Rosillo
Look, man, you killed it. 10 out of 10 again. Mike, we'll check in with you again.
- [61:21]
Kyle
So is this one weekend? Is that it?
- [61:23]
Mike Wargon
One weekend.
- [61:24]
Kyle
So you're not going to miss a show for this. You're just. You're just. You'll be back.
- [61:27]
Mike Wargon
No, I'm missing Friday and Monday.
- [61:28]
Kyle
What?
- [61:29]
Ceruti
Yeah, I gotta talk to you about it. I gotta.
- [61:32]
Ryan Rosillo
Nobody check with me.
- [61:34]
Mike Wargon
Yeah, I talked to Serenity.
- [61:35]
Kyle
Oh, all right.
- [61:38]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. This thing's real. We're days away. All right, well, can you call in on Monday?
- [61:44]
Mike Wargon
No, probably not.
- [61:46]
Kyle
Yes.
- [61:48]
Ryan Rosillo
All right. That was stern.
- [61:50]
Ceruti
We'll do a Wednesday check in.
- [61:52]
Kyle
You know, gotta be stern.
- [61:53]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I think I'm. Am I sensing attitude right now? I don't know what's going on. Is it just a scheduling thing or you're like. I mean, obviously, maybe the title shouldn't be the Wild Card and Wargons Marathon. Half marathon.
- [62:05]
Mike Wargon
Yeah. I'm just thinking Monday will probably be, like, in the parks.
- [62:08]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. All right, so it's a scheduling thing on your end. This isn't. You know, I just want to. I like to get levels of resistance.
- [62:17]
Kyle
Maybe just a selfie on your first mile so we can post that just when you're feeling good.
- [62:22]
Mike Wargon
Don't think I'm bringing my phone.
- [62:24]
Ryan Rosillo
All right.
- [62:25]
Ceruti
Just shut down after shutdown.
- [62:27]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
I'm done with this.
- [62:28]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, we need a picture.
- [62:29]
Ceruti
There'll be pictures. You're going to do the metal and the teeth thing. That's what we need.
- [62:32]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [62:32]
Kyle
Buy one from Disney for like 50 bucks. How about that?
- [62:34]
Ryan Rosillo
I'm looking at some videos here of the woman crossing the finish line. This looks like the Paris Olympics. This is not. This is a first class operation. I like that.
- [62:42]
Ceruti
I know people that have done this former, like, because obviously espn, we had all the, you know, the Disney hookups wherever. People used to do that all the time. I don't know why, but no offense.
- [62:55]
Kyle
All right, let's tap down on marathons. We got nothing else.
- [62:59]
Ceruti
We just did overrated, underrated. Property related marathons like a month ago too.
- [63:03]
Ryan Rosillo
That.
- [63:03]
Kyle
That's 10 minutes on marathons. All right.
- [63:06]
Ryan Rosillo
My God. All right. That's ten minutes. Okay, what do we got? Time for a sit down. Hey fellas. Love the pod. Obviously not a Hooper. So let's say I'm like Mike Alstott with minimum talent. No lifting stats anymore, but can run a sub 7 mile regularly. We know about a half marathon you can sign up for here. Also used to be able to power clean £300, but I'm not bragging. You should brag about that. Live in the Midwest in a metro. Midwest. Metro that wins Super Bowls regularly. I live on the good side of the state line. Oh, okay. Anyway. You got it? I got it. We'll just leave it alone just in case. Anyway, we have a core group of guys. Has been friends since high school. Some before. Our buddy, let's call him Nate, name has already changed. Is going through one of the nastier divorces. I've seen real accusatory stuff and a lot of fighting, but that's just background. Nate told us he was going to see Gladiator 2 by himself on a Tuesday afternoon. I see movies by myself all the time, so that part is fine. We would agree. Yeah, doesn't. You don't need to be added to a watch list.
- [64:11]
Ceruti
Myself.
- [64:11]
Ryan Rosillo
You went to a movie? Yeah. You did it recently?
- [64:14]
Ceruti
Yeah, I was the gladiator too. By myself.
- [64:16]
Kyle
I haven't done it yet, but you really pumped me up and I feel good about doing it in the future. So that was. That was a day when I got some real life advice.
- [64:22]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. I mean, again, I can't understand why people. I think if you hate the idea, you should make yourself do it. It's like running. It's like a marathon. All right. So just can't get away from it. He checks his. So all that part is fine. He checks his phone at the end of the movie and finds out his wife is pulling legal shenanigans. Per him parentheses. He gets angry. He tells us he had a great one liner at the theater. Here is the text. I got an awesome one liner out. I was so angry reading the emails at the end of the movie. Went to take a piss and some old ass man next to me was two and didn't wash his hands. I walked out and his wife was there and I said, you gross ass husband. Doesn't wash his hands. Look out for piss. And she just looked mortified. The emailer continues. This Is insane behavior. Right? I think it might be made up, but that's even worse. And what scenario is that funny or even something to brag about. Do we need to have a chat with him and tell him to chill? We already give him a lot of shit because he pays for Twitter to boost his engagement. Not a joke. But at what point is it too much? Walking a fine line because he's going through a lot. But I can't let weird behavior like this slide. Is it worth a full roast? Because that's actually what I want to do, or should I just let it go?
- [65:44]
Kyle
People hurt people, man. I don't know.
- [65:46]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, that's. That is insane behavior. I would. I would agree with that. I. And then to want to be that mad and then to do it and then do it to a stranger and then to do it to the stranger's wife and then feel like he won the day and then share it with all of you guys. Like, that's what I did. Still kicking ass. I mean, clearly Gladiator 2 affected him in a way that maybe not Ceruti was affected by it. Yeah, I just. I just think that stuff is like, really? That's totally overboard. That's. That's totally overboard.
- [66:17]
Ceruti
Is he. We were just talking about this before the pod. Is he trying to be like hand washing narc? Like the cart narc guy? Like, is he just. Is that like his thing to start calling people out in the bathroom for not washing hands? I don't know that that's a. That's a lane you want to. You want to be in. Even though I. It's disgusting.
- [66:30]
Kyle
The card narc guy is doing something good. I though. I mean, people may argue with his methods, but the root of it is good. This guy. I mean, just don't touch strangers hands if you're not. If you're, you know, kind of sign up for whatever if you do that. So just everyone keep your hands to yourself and it doesn't matter. So I think those are two different things. I think this is just a merciless joke thing. I don't know if you're like, you know, hey, man, we really need to talk about this or whatever. I think this is just. This is what terrible jokes are for. That guy's probably going home and crying anyway, right? He's got a lot of stuff like he's. He can't go to a movie by himself without, you know, getting emails about things changing and his passwords or whatever the hell's going on with the legal stuff. So I Think, you know, this was just misplaced aggression, obviously. But. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think this is a full. Like, we need to take a stock here. I think this is just jokes.
- [67:17]
Ceruti
I think the jokes thing might even be like, you just got to check on them. I don't.
- [67:20]
Kyle
Yeah, it might even be like, give them a little grace.
- [67:23]
Ceruti
Yeah.
- [67:23]
Ryan Rosillo
I think you need to have one friend in the group to be like. Just so you know, like, that's a total thing to do to somebody. Right. Like, you, you know, you're unhinged. You're aware of this. Like, you thought that was, like, why.
- [67:34]
Ceruti
Did you tell us?
- [67:35]
Ryan Rosillo
And. And by the way, it's probably not 100 true. You know, when guys can this kind of story be like, hey, guess what I did? You know? Yeah. And I get it. Like, you're going through a divorce. Even though I haven't been through one experience with many. Just the filing process of, like, they're saying I did what. I mean, it sucks. It absolutely sucks because both sides are trying to paint a picture to gain more sympathy when somebody has to decide who gets what. So in this case, like, you can understand of the root cause of why he would be this unhinged, but you need to. Anybody going through something. And, you know, as Kyle had said, the hurt people, hurt people thing, I mean, it is true. When somebody's like, just miserable and then has a mean streak in them, their goal is they want just everybody to be as miserable as they are. And maybe you attack it that way. So it's not even about the quote. It's just going, hey, what's your plan? It sucks. We're on your side. We're here for you. But, like, what's your plan? To bring society down around you?
- [68:44]
Ceruti
Just want to see the world burn.
- [68:45]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe see Dogman next time. See a preview for that one, Kyle? No, it's a cop, but he's a dog with the attributes of a kung fu fighter.
- [68:58]
Kyle
No, it's not. Is that real?
- [69:00]
Ryan Rosillo
Would I lie to you?
- [69:01]
Kyle
I guess not.
- [69:02]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Just.
- [69:02]
Kyle
I just saw a bunch of previews. Didn't see anything like that. Did see a ridiculous one about, like, a chimp who becomes a rock star. That looks terrible.
- [69:09]
Ryan Rosillo
Did you guys see that?
- [69:10]
Ceruti
Yeah. Isn't that supposed to be about Robbie Williams? That's a Robbie Williams biopic. But it's a chimp for some reason, right?
- [69:16]
Kyle
What the hell that is, dude. It looks fucking terrible.
- [69:20]
Ceruti
There is a movie coming out called Wolfman, which I'm a little intrigued by. Guy gets bit by a wolf, turns into a wolf, assume it's a werewolf.
- [69:26]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Situation, but dog kills all this time, dude.
- [69:29]
Ceruti
Yeah, gotta watch out for the wolves.
- [69:32]
Ryan Rosillo
I'm trying to find a quick one here. Oh, I know. I know what it is. We got it for you right here. It's a very Ceruti based one here.
- [69:45]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Yeah.
- [69:45]
Ceruti
Better man is the chimp movie. It's Robbie Williams.
- [69:48]
Kyle
Better Man.
- [69:49]
Ceruti
Yeah. Okay, so we have dog man, wolf.
- [69:54]
Kyle
Dude, that Better man thing looked absolutely insane.
- [69:57]
Ryan Rosillo
What's up guys? Gonna jump right into it. My buddies and I have a three person group chat that's almost exclusively for talking basketball. The three of us live here in Orlando, watch just about every Magic game, attend a fair amount of games per year. I've lost the ability to talk to them about sports based on their horrendous takes, and I need to know what the play is going forward. For example, both friends claim that Jayson Tatum was quote, carried to the Finals and would not be a star if not given his Celtics roster. That's horseshit. Both friends also believe that Rudy Gobert holds no value as a basketball player because he has, quote, no bag. While I agree the trade and contract were a little much for Rudy, his defensive presence along with his shot decision alteration can't be overlooked. At various points throughout last offseason and early this season, one or both have pleaded for the following. Trading Franz Wagner for LaMelo Ball. Trading Jalen Suggs for LaMelo Ball. I was waiting for Serti to make a noise trading away a 20 year old Anthony Black in a deal to acquire a player like Sexton Clarkston or Brogdon. Brogdon.
- [70:57]
Ceruti
I mean, you need new friends. That's about up.
- [71:00]
Ryan Rosillo
That's what I could offer. Cut all the minutes of Tristan Dime Silva. Although he's shown great promise as a rookie, I'm at a loss where to go from at this point. I can't hear any more about how Tatum is horrible and Rudy Gobert should be out of the NBA. I'm sure you guys have dealt with something along these lines before, so I'm asking, what's the play? Is it just to be a solo basketball watcher with nobody to discuss with, or is there room for potential reform? I'm hoping you all read this and knock some sense into these guys. Suruda, you want to take this one?
- [71:28]
Ceruti
There's no knocking any sense to them like this is. This is, I feel like a prevailing part of Twitter sports culture. I feel like everybody thinks that Go Bear sucks. Like the Tatum thing. I'M trying to think of, like, other takes like, that that are just, like, out there, that are dumb, but are just somehow like a. A take that people have that are casuals. I don't. I don't really like the word casual. I don't even like that I use that. But I don't know, like, do you. Do you not want any friends either? Like, are they. Are they good guys and, like, you know, do you go to topgolf with them? Are they fun? Like, are they good to go out with? Are they good wingman? Like, is this the only downfall that these guys have? Because if that's the case, then I don't know. Sports takes are. I don't. I don't like talking sports with people, like, outside of, like, our kind of group here, because it's just, like. I don't know. I don't really want to get into stuff, and it's kind of annoying, but, you know, it's obviously our job, so it's a little bit different. But if it's like, if you have to deal with bad sports takes and you have good friends, like, then I think it's kind of just something you got to overlook a little bit.
- [72:21]
Kyle
I could see maybe start, like, trying to push the chat in another direction. I mean, maybe it's like. I don't know, it's like a meme thing. I don't really have something like this. Like, I got this one guy who was sending me.
- [72:36]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
It was.
- [72:37]
Kyle
This was on Instagram, so it was a little different, but he was just sending me, like, cringe videos of, like. I don't know, it was just. But it was like, women doing, like, this guy. You have specific.
- [72:49]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [72:50]
Kyle
And it was like, women doing, like, monologues and, like, making just. I don't know. It was just. I hated it. I hated it. He wouldn't stop. And then I just started sending him poop content, and he stopped. He's out. He's done. I know this isn't the same thing, but I just.
- [73:06]
Ceruti
You went lower. You just went.
- [73:08]
Kyle
I went lower, and it was like farts and poop. That's what I was sending him. I followed this page called World of Farts. They usually have some bangers. I send those to him, and I gotta say, the cringe stuff stopped. And I know it's not the same, but it's just the only thing I have to say on this.
- [73:26]
Ryan Rosillo
So what you're saying to the emailers that he needs to figure out what basketball takes that correlate with World of Farts.
- [73:36]
Kyle
So I guess, I don't know. I, I, it doesn't, they kind of run parallel. They don't really intersect but I don't know. It's the only thing I have for this.
- [73:44]
Ryan Rosillo
So maybe you throw like do we found find out a way to like do Paolo for the number one pick this year to reset the financial roster and Paolo's been hurt and you know, you might not want to extend them like just try to out world the fart their basketball takes.
- [74:00]
Kyle
Right. Because you're, your issue is you're taking them seriously. Right. And you're like you can't be serious. So maybe you just have to be completely unserious and it's a joke thing. I don't know.
- [74:08]
Ryan Rosillo
I know that the Rudy one's not terrible. I'm just kidding.
- [74:14]
Ceruti
I know that dissing first date these days, you know they like to like, you know, they like to bite back a little bit. But my, I will say my, my, my perspective and my not enjoyment of that show but just how I view that show changed when I just stopped taking it seriously. When you stop taking and that's hard for me because I do take things very seriously like sports, whatever it takes. Like I have a hard time of just like letting go like that. But when you, when you just kind of are like hey these guys are idiots and you just don't really let it bother you that way or you look at it through a different lens, it completely changes. And that's what first take was for me. As soon as I stopped looking at that it's like a serious sports show.
- [74:48]
Kyle
When you stop hate watching Skip Bayless.
- [74:49]
Ceruti
Yeah, yeah. Like as soon as it's like you know Shannon Sharp's threatening to fight somebody or whatever, it's like oh, this is actually, it's an entertaining show and just I think you could treat your friends. Is there a way you can just treat it as entertainment? Can you as you said like can you just send them like fake trades? Are there different things that you can just do to kind of like rev it up even more? Just kind of like have a personal after yourself because again I don't think it's worth like ending friendships over this unless they're also shitty friends.
- [75:11]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I wouldn't end the friendship but those, the, the Tatum one actually the Clarkson trade or Brogdon for Anthony Black. Anthony Black.
- [75:20]
Ceruti
Lamelo. I feel like Lamelo thing like if you are a Lamelo guy that's a.
- [75:25]
Ryan Rosillo
Red flag for me personally lit it up last night. Beat the Suns cool lit it up. Fourth quarter Demon Gremlin maybe. All right. Thank you to Kyle, thank you to Ceruti, thank you to Oregon, who I cannot wait to talk about next week. Good luck, buddy. We'll be cheering you on. Maybe a virtual donation, a couple Disney bucks your way and spend it at Jelly Roll before last call. Woodford, too.
- [75:53]
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Disney bucks.
- [75:54]
Ceruti
You can get a Guinness at Epcot.
- [75:56]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. And then you can head right over to China. So that'll, that'll do it for the show. And we'll be on again Friday right after Ohio State Texas for a five day playoff football celebration with Van. With Van. Van Lathan. Sec Van. Tough one. Be a tough one for us. That'll do. Check us out on YouTube and subscribe to the podcast Ryan Russell podcast must be 21 and older president. Select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + in present in D.C. gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit MD gamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelp linema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY in New York.