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The Packers' Ceiling, the Contenders' Biggest Flaws, and the Best Play Callers With Ted Nguyen
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Ted Nguyen
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Ryan Russillo
I want to go deep. Ted Wynn of the Athletic. He does all the film work that you need to get ready for football week and he did a big time breakdown of this Eagles defense and what they're able to do with their linebackers and a concept. I want you to bring this up next time you're hanging out with your friends. You can steal it from me. Do we round up with youth on defense and round down with age on defense? I think we do. Maybe we should stop. I don't know if a movement will start, but we're going to go through all the contenders and if there are any flaws. He also talks to defensive coordinators from the NFL and they rank their top 6o coordinators and again, a more in depth preview of Kansas City and Philly and he'll pick that game. We've got life advice, biking. We've got corporate people reaching out about what to do, what not to do. So get ready. HR we're coming to you on Friday. This is the Ryan Rosillo podcast presented by FanDuel, and the NFL is officially back. So if you're going to be in it, be in it with FanDuel. They've got the goods. Futures, live betting, SGPs, that same game, parlays your way, bets, all of it. The app's clean, it's fast, and yeah, when you win, you get paid instantly, which is nice because Sunday patience doesn't exist. So get your bets in, build something bold and make every game feel bigger. Download the FanDuel app or head to FanDuel.com Ryan R Y E N to get started. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and help lines available and listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Must be 21 and older and present in select states or 18 plus and President DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 100 Gambler visit rg-help.com call 888-789-7777 or 8 visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut paid endorsement he is one of my absolute go tos throughout the NFL off season and even more so during the NFL season. From the Athletic does a great job on the NFL and a ton of film breakdown stuff. Ted Nguyen joins us now. What's up man? Good to see you.
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Ted Nguyen
Good to see you. Thanks for having me on.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, let's get to it because we start with this Packers D It was really impressive against a Detroit team that likes to establish a run they could not run the football they couldn't protect. There's some interior offensive line stuff you probably figure they'll get sorted out at some point. And then we see the packers go up against a commander's offense that put up real numbers last year. And I still think Jaden, statistically, I guess it's argued it's his worst game of his career. I still think he was. He was doing for a guy that was struggling and then things weren't going to work. There were actually some things that I kind of liked about him last night and just being competitive. I'm not even talking about like the late scores that nobody cares about, but we see that Green Bay, with this front, they can get there with four. Talk to me about what you think this defense is capable of this season.
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I mean, in week one, we saw them shut down the Lions run defense, and actually it was one of the worst rushing performances for Lions in the last few years, holding them to, I think, 2.1 yards per carry or something like that, which is extremely impressive. And then we want to see if they could do it again. And they stopped commander's rushing offense, which is one of the most unique in the league. And I think one thing that's pretty interesting about that is defensive coordinators could kind of struggle with the read option because they don't see it a ton. But Jeff Hafley is coming from college where he did see it a lot, so he does have experience shutting it down. So you saw some of those defensive concepts that shut down those options sort of runs. And obviously when you stop the run, you can pin your ears back and start pass rushing. And we saw that with Micah Parsons and you saw him move around the formation. He rushed from the inside a little bit more. I think he rushed from the inside 10% of his snaps and just caused a ton of havoc with those games. And yeah, I think this Green Bay defense is for real. I mean, I think there's some questions to outside corner and they finally got tested against commanders, but Keyshawn Nixon, I thought passed that test with flying colors. So I think this Green Bay defense might be the number one defense in the league by the end of the year.
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Ryan Russillo
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I mean, he's definitely a sending quarterback. I thought last year the injury really affected him. I mean, he just did not want to run last year after he got injured in week one. And I think now that he's healthy, we're seeing him a little bit more mobile. We saw him scramble for 14 yards. Not that it's going to be a huge part of his game, but that mobility does add a little bit more to his game and I just think, yeah, in his, you know, just another year in his offense and just knowing LaFleur and building on those concepts that they have and just his skill set fits so well with what LaFleur wants to do. And he's just a guy that wants to attack downfield. And they had so many explosive plays yesterday and they left a few on the field too. Like he just barely missed on a couple. So I think Jordan Love is, I mean, I thought he was going to ascend into that top 10 category last year. Obviously it didn't happen, but I think now that he's healthy, I think they figured out some things with the receiving order. After adding golden into that equation, I really think he's going to get to that level this year. So with that type of defense, I think Jordan Love ascending to that top 10 tier of quarterback, this, this is, I think to me is a, they're a real super bowl contender.
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Ryan Russillo
It feels like you're, you know, being critical of Herz if, if I'm ever like, well, hey, look, I think he's, he's fine, but I'm not sure. I mean, there was a chart from week one, which again, it's just week one, so it's a little unfair to him. But it was like time to throw and not like the time to throw one, which I think can be misleading. If you're running, running away for pressure, you're just freelancing on your own. But it was like depth of target versus like basically how well you're protected. And Herz was like a dot on the chart that was so far away from everything else. So if I just like rapid fired with you, like for all things being equal, would you rather have Love for a season or Jalen hurts?
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Ted Nguyen
That's tough. I mean, I think Hertz fits exactly what the Eagle Eagles want to do as far as this being a read option quarterback. They have their tush push and obviously nobody could tush push like Hertz can and he could take those deep shots when teams start loading the ball box. So he's perfect for what they want to do. But I think as far as just being a overall dynamic quarterback, I think Jordan Love can exceed Hertz. And I'm not hating on Hertz. I do. Like, I've grown to appreciate his game. Like he does make those winning plays and winning decisions in those critical moments. But as far as just being an overall quarterback, being able to attack the field and read defenses, all those types of things, I think Jordan Love is, has a potential to exceed Hertz. But I cannot put him over Hertz right now. I think the winning pedigree does matter, and Hertz obviously has it.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, let's not make it all about Hertz. Would you rather have Jaden Daniels for a season or Jordan Love?
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Ted Nguyen
I think. I think Jaden Daniels, I just. Yeah, I just love everything about Jaden Daniels, and obviously he offers that dynamic running part of the game. But again, Jane Daniels probably isn't quite there yet, but I like Jaden Daniels overall ceiling. Probably the best of any of those quarterbacks.
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Ryan Russillo
All right, you did a nice breakdown of Philly. As we get ready for the super bowl rematch this early, it's almost like, you know, it was funny because I was thinking about it the other day, looking forward to last night's game, just that Tuesday, Wednesday, without a football game, which, again, I do think the NFL is going to put this on seven nights a week at some point. I don't. I think it's years away, but I think they'll try. But, you know, you go all summer, you know, maybe you're checking out some baseball, but it's the only, like, slowdown period for me. So then to get football and to have it Thursday, to have it Friday, to have all the college, to have it Sunday, then have it Monday, that Tuesday, it was like the first moment of like, oh, I don't have anything going on here tonight. So here we are after that Bills win. Incredibly lucky week one. Lucky enough to have a Super bowl rematch. When you break down the tape from that game, what do you think went wrong for the Chiefs?
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Ted Nguyen
Well, the main thing is protection. Like, they got pummeled from. From that Eagles pass rush. And I think they did. They tried to do a lot of work as far as fixing their protection schematically and with talent. I think they lucked out getting Josh Simmons in the bottom of the first round, who should have been a top 10 pick. And he looks. I mean, he did make some mental mistakes in that Chargers game, but as far as a physical ability, I think he's the best tackle that the Chiefs had in years. And then I think Taylor, who they moved to the right side, I, you know, there's some problems with him, but maybe if he could stay on the right side, he could be a little bit more stable. And if he doesn't, then they might move Jalen Moore, who they got in free agency, to right tackle and maybe that would solidify their offensive line. But I just think with Simmons protecting the blind side, they're a much better spot than they were last year. So we'll see how that protection holds up against the Eagles. But the Eagles pass rush isn't what it was in that super bowl run either. It's not as deep. Losing Milton Williams inside was a pretty big issue. We saw what happened when they lost Jalen Carter in that game. They really didn't have a good interior rush. So they're going to have to be a little bit more creative with their rush as far as simulated pressures and blitzing and that sort of thing. But the main thing was, yeah, that rush just destroyed the Chiefs in the super bowl, and the Chiefs couldn't get a run game going. Not that that's ever something that Andy Reid really wants to do, but it's just hard to live when your opponent could just sit in too high the entire game. Like they just ran the same coverage pretty much 80% of the game and they were able to get away with it. So curious to see if maybe they want to try to run the ball a little bit more than they did in the Super Bowl. I feel like they can't just get into a drop back game early and expect to beat the Eagles.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, so here's something that I really like in the breakdown, because, you know, they lose the defensive line talent. I think through the draft it's been, you know, prioritized to have these replacements and now they're getting these replacement reps. Clearly they've invested a corner with two of the younger guys where you're like, okay, but is there still, like, are they still one corner light? Right. And Dean being out means they had to shuffle some things. But they take Campbell. The. The Zach Bond story is insane because he goes from playing one way in New Orleans to what he does with Philly last year, and now it feels like Philly's actually going back to some of the other stuff. So he's just showing this incredible versatility. You did a big breakdown on these guys. So I guess I'm wondering, do they think the versatility with their linebackers is enough to compensate until the guys up front are seasoned enough to match what they've been able to do in the past or getting pressure without blitzing all day?
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I think some of the things they could do with Jihad Campbell could definitely help the pass rush. My action before the draft, my comparison, and I wrote this, my comparison for Jihad Campbell with Zach Bond, because he is a linebacker that has really good coverage instincts when he plays zone and you could move him on the line of scrimmage and rush him and he could hold up as edge against a run. So now you have two players with similar skill sets, and you have Vic Fangio, who's going to draw up a bunch of things for these guys and move them around. And one of the things that Vic Fangio really likes to do is, like, he'll move the front right before the snap. So he'll move last year with Zach Bond, who was playing inside linebacker. Then right before the snap, they'll move him to edge, and then it just makes it hard for the blocking scheme to account for him. But now they have Campbell back there, and now Campbell's the guy that's moving to the edge. And then they have Bond playing back, who's a little bit more experienced, and that works. And they're doing a bunch a few creative things, and they kind of unveiled it week one. But I think as we move, we're going to see more and more creative schemes. Like on 4th and 3, towards the end of the game, where the Cowboys needed to get it, they had a read blitz on where both Bond and Campbell were at the line of scrimmage, and they're reading the protection. So if the protection turned towards one guy, then they'll drop out, and then the other guy blitzes, and then he gets a good matchup against a running back. And that's exactly what happened. Bond ended up blitzing, got right into Dak Prescott's face, and Campbell ended up taking away the hot route. And they had to throw that ugly ball to CD Lamb, which he had to die for. He could have caught it, but it ended up getting dropped in at 4th and 3. So I really like the skill set, and I think we're going to see more and more interesting things from them and Fangio moving forward.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, that fourth and three throw to CD like, part of me, like, Dax aggressiveness, like, on the whole, I just think there's so many quarterbacks that get really comfortable with, like, you know, they're saying, hey, I'm managing risk, and I would just be like, you're not even giving your team a chance. I thought throughout that, that loss for Dallas, there were times where Dak was trying to give his team a chance to move the football, taking those shots, and I think those shots can kind of scare you over the course of the game. You can't just do it once and again. That's kind of what I loved about Green Bay last night, and it felt like they could kind of do whatever they wanted. There were just so many times where they would drop back guys or just wanted to wide Open and you're like, all right, well, no wonder they're so aggressive here. But on 4th and 3, and this is kind of like a separate thing. Do you like that going, hey, it's cd. Because there's also the default of the huge third down in that spot of fourth down is obviously bigger. We're. We're making this. We're going home. The reliance on the number one option. Do you like that? Knowing that you. If you could have just found something underneath, you're moving the chains on fourth and three, but now you're taking a one on one shot on a go route?
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah. It also depends what the defense is doing, because on 4th and 3, Vic Fangio is not a big man coverage guy. But knowing that the Cowboys only need three yards, he wanted to play a little bit more aggressive coverage. So they're playing man to man. And that, that read blitz I told you about, Campbell actually did a really good job of dropping out and taking away a short route that was kind of wide open that would have gotten three yards. So they took away that, that route. And then you have a one on one with your best player against Cooper DeJean, who's a good corner too, but I think that's why they took that shot. And then when you compare it to what happened at the end of the game when the Cowboys are trying to get the ball back and the Eagles had the ball and they were facing a third and three, and Matt Eberfluss just calls a four man pass rush with COVID three playing, you know, zone, and then Jalen hurts, just, you know, scoots out and gets the three yards on a run, it's just bad situational football. So it depends what the defense is doing, but I like taking that shot. When you have man on man to man and you have your best player with the one on one.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, right. It's not like Mitchell was on him too. Probably. That's. That's probably another part of it. There is something that is. I think we're all guilty of it. I try to check myself with it a little bit, but especially on defense, I feel like I round up with young players and then I round down with old players. And I don't know if the age of Washington's defense, like, if you look at the overall age numbers that come out before week one, I think Washington's average age across the board was the oldest team in the NFL. I mean, hell, even Jaden in the second year, like, I doubt many people realize how old he is. So there's Some youth on the defensive line, but then you start looking at corners and linebackers in that group. Is that a mistake or is it. Actually, the reason we round up is because the chances are these dudes in their mid-20s are just going to stay healthier, that they're just going to be in better shape dealing with the combative nature of the sport by, like, week 12.
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I mean, I think with defenders, like, when you get up, you know, because defense is so much about athleticism, because you have to be able to react to the offense, like, it's just tougher to play when you get older. I mean, I think playing certain positions, like linebacker, where, you know, a lot of it is mental processing, you can age a little bit more gracefully. But I think, yeah, I think with defense, as you get older, like, it's just. Just tougher to play the position, Especially when you're playing, you know, a position that you have to run a lot, like corner and react and that's that sort of deal. Even defensive line, like, you know, you have to be a great athlete to be able to beat these tackles. So as you get older, it's just tougher because you don't have that twitch anymore and there's some power rushers that can get away with it. But, yeah, I agree with you. I think as you get older on defense, it's just tougher to play position. And then on offense, I think offense, like, you can actually get better with age, you know, even in, like, a position like wide receiver, definitely at quarterback. You know, we see tight ends age gracefully. Offensive tackles age pretty gracefully. So, yeah, I kind of agree with you. Like, it's roundup for defense and, you know, for offense, I don't think age is as big of a deal.
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Ryan Russillo
I find myself doing it all the time. And I was thinking about it this week because of the Washington matchup and because of all these names on Philly that I like. And look, we only saw one game of it, and it felt like a lot of the names showed up big time in the second half. Like, I was kind of waiting on some guys to play. Like, Bond was kind of making plays throughout the entire game. But I was like, man, I feel like I always kind of default to hope for young defenses, figuring they're going to think it out or thinking they're going to figure it out. But yet, whenever it's like an older depth chart on defense, I just kind of assume the worst and it can't be that predictable. But I think just the. The athleticism and some of the stuff you were talking about plays into that. The Ryan Rosilla Podcast is brought to you by fanduel. NFL Sunday's coming. You've got your crew, your couch, your snacks, your slate. And FanDuel's coming in with something extra. This isn't just another NFL Sunday. It's your chance to place that perfect par layer. Hit your go to player prop. And now we're making it even better. Because this week FanDuel's bringing the bonus. That's right. Right now, all customers can get a 50% profit boost on any NFL bet. However you play your game, FanDuel's got your back with something extra in your account because that's what Sunday should feel like. Visit FanDuel.com Ryan R Y E N to download the app and get in on the action before kickoff. Must be 21 and older and present in select states or 18 plus and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including any token expiration and max wager amount. See terms@sportsbook.fanduel.com gambling problem call 100 Gambler or visit rg-help.com call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org ChatInCeneticUT this episode is brought to you by Scout Motors. Whether on the gridiron or off of it, America loves a game changer. The all new Scout Terra and Scout Traveler are entering the game. Iconic in the 70s, reimagined for today and engineered with four wheel drive, available locking differentials, optional 35 inch tires and a projected 1000 pound feet of torque. Opposing defenses take note. Join the wait list@scoutmotors.com Concept vehicles not available for sale. Features and performance specifications are preliminary and subject to change. Joining the wait list does not guarantee purchase. Visit scoutmotors.com for details. Okay, I want to stay on this kind of contenders theme here because we've covered the packers. You know, we're talking Casey, we're talking Philadelphia here, KC's D. This is another group where I've liked the names, you know, not. I mean it was a week one game where, you know, whether it's Mahomes statistically not being great in it, but having incredible moments here, where are you on their momentum? Like pick this game against Philly and give me whether or not you have a declining view of this group or you know, just expecting them to win the AFC like we have now for years.
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I mean I think seeing what we saw, what happened with the against the Chargers. I think this defense is going to struggle early on. I have faith in Spagnolo in figuring out eventually but I mean there was just a ton of coverage busts, mental mistakes from the secondary. I think losing Justin Reed was a huge underrated development that happened in off season because he's just, he was such a stabilizing force in that secondary as far as as communication, tackling an open field which is huge when you blitz as much as they do. And I think we, they missed that stable stabilizing force in the secondary. We saw just guys running wide open in man coverage because they couldn't pick up the right guy. And I don't think that's an issue that's going to get fixed in one week or two weeks. I think that's an issue that might need to get fixed as we go along and maybe it happens later on in the season. And I also think Spagnolo is not going to slow down or really simplify his calls for a young defense. I think he's going to keep calling what he does and make them figure it out. So I don't know if they're ready to stop this Eagles offense just yet with all the mistakes they're making. I think it's going to have to be on their offense to keep pace with the Eagles because there's just too many mistakes happening right now.
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Ryan Russillo
So you like Philly here?
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Ted Nguyen
I, I think it's going to be a high scoring game and I think I, I want to say Casey pulls it off.
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Ryan Russillo
Oh, okay.
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Ted Nguyen
Factor. But I think it's gonna be a high scoring game. I don't think that Casey's gonna go in there and shut down that Eagles offense. You know, it's going to be a shootout.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, let's stay with this contenders thing because if I was looking at FanDuel's odds this morning, the bills are plus 170 when the AFC Ravens plus 550. That feels like great Ravens value there, KC plus 700. The Chargers actually close to them at plus 800 there. If you were to talk about flaws, you know, whether it was expected flaws based on summer, you know, maybe it's overreacting a bit after just week one tape here. But is it the Bill secondary?
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Ted Nguyen
The Bill secondary is pretty bad. I mean they have a six round rookie starting for them last week and then they're counting on T.R. davious White to come in and fill that corner spot. But traded Davies. White hasn't been good in three years.
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Ryan Russillo
So yeah, I feel like we've been waiting on that for a while.
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, it's, it's. It's going to be rough. And they just announced that Ed Oliver is going to be out for a few weeks, and he was by far their best run defender. He was the best pass rusher, too. So they're missing a huge part of their defense. They just gave up 238 yards rushing to the Ravens, and then they're playing the jets, who just rushed for 182 yards against the Pittsburgh Steelers. So this Josh Allen is going to have to put on a superman cape for a few weeks because this Bill's defense is rough, and they're depending on Bosa staying healthy for 16 weeks, which doesn't happen. So it's, there's a lot of holes in this, this Bill's defense.
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Ryan Russillo
Did you like the Bosa tape, though, from that first game?
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Ted Nguyen
Oh, yeah. I mean, anytime Bosa is playing, he's one of the best edge defenders in the league. It's just. The problem is he's going to miss five, six games a year.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah. And he's going to play in five other ones where he's probably not even close to 100%. And you're kind of watching, going, like, what happened? I mean, even the replay on that Lamar, you know, it wasn't even a mesh decision. He's just out in the open against Lamar. And it was like week one early in the game. And it looks bad, but it's like, you know, sometimes you have to just acknowledge, like, what's both supposed to do in that spot. Then I thought, you know, again, I'm not watching it the way you are, but I find myself, like, going, all right, I want to see. I want to see how he's doing. And I was like, I thought he played well, so I'm glad you said that. Kansas City, we covered here. Let's. Are you a Herbert guy? Because there's. I don't know if there's a fan club for us or a secret handshake, but it's. It's almost more unpopular to still like him.
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Ted Nguyen
I'm a big Herbert guy.
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Ryan Russillo
All right, well, you can move on.
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Ted Nguyen
Herbert's elite guy.
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Ryan Russillo
Anything with Baltimore that you think is a flaw.
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Ted Nguyen
I'm not really concerned with Baltimore. Their offense looked great. Right guard, it's a problem. Daniel Flale, he's a guy that, you know, he's a 6, 8 tackle. They tried to move the guard last year. He was a problem early in the year, and they kind of figure out ways around him. Last year, but I think they were hoping he took the next step in off season, but he looks pretty rough, so that's a spot they might have to replace. Corner depth is a little bit. A little bit concerning because Jair Alexander had to come in that game after Woozy got hurt and he got terrible. Yeah, yeah.
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Ryan Russillo
And he used to be. I mean, you know, whatever. He used to be one of the premier guys. And yeah, there's a reason he's kind of bouncing around now. And you're not 100. Sure. Speaking to some of the health stuff, but like that pass interference in the corner, like just being out of position, he just didn't even look at that. And maybe I'm being too harsh on that, but there was another play too, where I'm like, what's going on?
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I mean, he's just, like slipping all over the place. It doesn't look good, but, I mean, they survived with Brandon Stevens playing corner last year, and he was pretty bad, too. I think if a Woozy is healthy and Marlon Humphrey's healthy, then the corners are pretty solid. But if Jair Alexander has to come in and start, you know, that's going to be another Brandon Stevens type of issue.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah. I was looking at the NFC this morning. Green Bay's plus 270. Do you think Baltimore is a better football team than Green Bay today?
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Ted Nguyen
I think the packers are a better team, but I think Lamar Jackson's on another tier from Jordan Love, and that makes a difference. So I would put Baltimore over the packers for now, but if Jordan Love is playing like a top 10 quarterback as the season goes along, then I would give the packers to edge.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I think everything that I've seen from that first week, I know it sounds crazy considering they blew the lead, but what I like about the work that you do and talking about the guys that really understand this stuff is that is there an answer for everything, you know, or there are times where it can feel a little unsolvable. Like when the Niners are healthy on offense, there are times where it feels like, hey, they're getting their 28, 31 points today. And now with the Niners, like the gap between the elite talent and then this kind of reset year, perhaps around some of the names that we're familiar with, and then it's like, okay, but if they lose a couple of these five or six special player, and it's like, here we are, it's week two, and the quarterback and the tight end are already down. So, you know, the Niners are still Kind of alive in this conference race here when I was looking at at least the odds part of it. So Green Bay's plus 270, Phillies plus 300. The. The Rams are plus 700. I gotta be honest. Detroit's now plus. Let me pull it up here again. They're plus 1700. They're in eighth place. Vegas hates them after week one. That's. That feels a little harsh for Detroit there. Since we've talked packers. We talked. Are you surprised? Like, would you have the Rams as the third best team in the nfc?
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Ted Nguyen
I mean, I like the Rams a lot. Their run defense and their secondary concern to me. But I mean, they. They played pretty well against Houston, but they kind of just dominated that Houston offensive line, which is just terrible. But if Stafford could stay healthy, and that's kind of a big if with that back issue, you know, I could see them being one of the best teams in nfc, but I still have some questions about their defense. But, I mean, I feel like that offense is going to be, you know, flying pretty high if Stafford is able to play 18, 17 games.
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Ryan Russillo
There was a running joke years ago when it was the McVeigh tree, and there's a lot of stuff said about that hiring cycle. And if you look around, most of those guys are still working, and most of them are considered the best offensive minds in this sport. So congrats to the McVeigh tree, whether or not it's actually the Shanahan tree, which again, if you go through, if you had the family tree of how offensive football works, Mike would be up there and then Kyle and then McVeigh and the rest of it, you on the athletic. And I would encourage people to read this, talk to defensive coordinators and ask them to rank the guys that are the best. So let's go through that ranking because I was reading it this week as well. Who's number one? Who's the guy that everybody thinks is the best at doing this when we're talking about just designing an offense and then execution?
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah. Number one is Kyle Shanahan. And, you know, there are some flaws to Shanahan's offense. When it comes to protection, that's one thing that did come up a few times. But as far as just his ability to attack, weaknesses in your defense, understanding the rules of your defense, the completeness of that run game and how they're able to attack with different personnel and that hybrid 21 personnel, they just get a ton of respect from defensive coaches. His ability to create explosives, his ability to. I think one huge Thing is, like, he's able to make average players look really good. Like he's, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo looked like a Super bowl quarterback in that offense and then he gets out of that team and all of a sudden he's a backup quarterback, you know, so he's able to get the best out of his players and he just understands the weaknesses of every defensive player on the field.
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Ryan Russillo
The rankings and I have these up in front of me here again, I just want to pull it up to make sure. So it's Shanahan 1, it's McVeigh 2, who you had defensive coordinators essentially say, like it's 1A and 1B with those two. Number three is Ben Johnson now with the Bears. Number four is Andy Reed. Number five is Kevin O' Connell with the Vikings. And then you finish it out with Matt LaFleur from last night. Let's, let's try to figure out the different things that maybe, you know, that were shared with you that you thought were really interesting. So what's the biggest McVeigh thing? And it's not, maybe not even McVeigh's system, but McVeigh's own development.
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I think, you know, we all remember the super bowl where they lost to the Patriots. They only scored three points and he couldn't adjust to that 61 defense that the Patriots ran. And I think as he's grown as a coach, he's gotten so good at adjusting and just coming up with stuff on the fly, you know, having to change his game plan completely. That's one thing he got a lot of credit for. It's just like he has his Rolodex in his head that he could go to whenever he needs to. He's one of the best in game adjusters. I think Andy Reid still gets credit for being the best as far as adjusting and coming up with answers, you know, during the game. But I think McVay is second in that respect. But I think overall people like his system better because of the completeness of it. Andy Reid surprisingly didn't get any first place votes, but I think because he just is so dependent on the drop back game that some defensive coordinators don't give him as much credit as a play caller.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, what I really liked about McVay, I mean the one quote was that essentially they feel like in game he can change the most. Is, is that, is that different than the praise of Shanahan where the praise for Shanahan was like, he understands our rules better than everybody else and Tries to break them and he's running the same stuff out of like the same formation. Like that used to always be like a big Chip Kelly thing. It's like it's going to look the same, but it's actually not going to be the same. And that can be more confusing than trying to make everything look different all the time. But I really enjoyed the one defensive coordinator just saying, like McVeigh, from the beginning of game essentially to the end of the game, he'll. He'll deviate the most now of anybody that's installing an offense in game, which I think is probably one of the hardest things to do. And you've got to obviously, obviously trust your guys.
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I agree. And I think part of that is, you know, he has Matthew Stafford too. You got to have a quarterback that's able to kind of execute your game plan when you're changing things is not always easy. So having that elite quarterback that is a veteran quarterback, I think that definitely helps with the adjustments too.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah. The Ben Johnson thing. Any hope for us Caleb Williams guys?
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Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I mean, I think Ben Johnson and we saw the Lions really miss him too. I mean, we could talk about the lines, but that they. They really miss his play calling. They really miss attention to detail.
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Ryan Russillo
Let me interrupt you though. Like, what, what is it about? Because it did feel like the descriptions of defensive quarters was like very different for the praise for Ben and whether it's marrying run past stuff. We know the play action stuff with Jared Goff, although sometimes it's like, okay, but we can't just play action every single time. Like we have to have the other part that they're afraid of. But you know, there are certain routes. There are like routes that look like golf routes. And I felt like there were Caleb throws that reminded me of golf throws and then there were a ton of throws that looked nothing like golf throws or even the Pinakai. So explain to me like what is different about the way Ben Johnson attacks than maybe a McVeigh or Shanahan?
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Ted Nguyen
I think it's similar because they like a lot of play action. But I mean, obviously when you're working with the Lions group of skill players, which arguably is the best in the league, you know, it's going to look a little bit more explosive. I also think one of the one thing that Ben Johnson gets a lot of credit for is his ability to just play to the strength of his guys. Like when you look at the Lions, they're very talented, but they're got their players to very specific Skill sets like Amon Ross. St. Brown is a slot player. He's very good at what he does, but he has a very specific skill set. Jameson Williams is a fast, explosive player, but is a very specific skill set. Jared Goff is, you know, has a very specific skill set and he's able to just create plays that are, that's able to take advantage of those skill sets and it comes together in a coherent system, which is hard to do. And I think right now the Lions have to kind of get back to that. And even though the offense is a little bit siloed, I think they're not doing what Ben Johnson did. So I think for Ben Johnson, he has to kind of figure out what the skill sets for Caleb Williams is, Roma Dunze and kind of create that coherent system with the Bears and they're kind of figuring it out right now.
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Ryan Russillo
What's special about OConnell?
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Ted Nguyen
OConnell, he loves going downfield. Like we just talked about the Jared Goff offense where there's a lot of yak crossing routes and stuff like that, but OConnell likes to attack downfield. So he's going to create these play action concepts where you're throwing down the seam, you're throwing corner routes, you're going. And I think what o' Connell does really well is he's able to, like, he's able to. You can't take away Justin Jefferson because of the way he draws a place. Like he knows what your coverage is and he knows how to high, low them if you try to cloud Jefferson and attack the quarter side, if you're putting too much attention on Jefferson. So just, I think that kind of gamesmanship with knowing what you're going to do against his best player and just creating all these counters for it is what he does well.
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Ryan Russillo
Anyone that was left off the list and LaFleur again was six that you were surprised?
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Ted Nguyen
No, I don't think there was any surprise. You know, maybe I thought maybe Kingsbury had a chance to get on the list, maybe Joe Brady for his work with Josh Allen, but I could see why they're left. They were left out of the top 10. But I think, you know, if Kingsbury continues to do what he does, he might end up being on the list next year.
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Ryan Russillo
Not enough motion for the football nerds from Kingsbury. So I don't know, I don't know if that maybe got into the minds of some of the defensive coordinators here. Okay, last thought, because I think this is kind of fun. Like if there's a guy over the summer that you weren't thinking about and he pops up on film and then it's like, okay, week one, I have. So it could be a name. It'd be fun. If it's not a name, is there a summer guy from the film study that you went in with all this excitement about? Maybe that was paid off a little bit just one week into the season.
- [38:31]
Ted Nguyen
Yeah, he's not like an unknown guy because he was the seventh overall pick. Armand Membu, the right tackle for the jets, man, he looked phenomenal against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And T.J. watt, like, he came in, zero pressures, zero sacks allowed, was dominant in the run game. And you know, like, sometimes you have those games where you can look really good against an inferior opponent. But he's going against T.J. watt, and T.J. watt isn't what he used far as, you know, a top elite pass rusher, but he's still a very, very good pass rusher. And there was a couple times where he pancaked him. So he, Armand Benboots came in, looked like a top 10 right tackle, right off the bat. And like, it's, it's hard to do that at a premium position like that. So I, you know, like he had some jump off the. Jump out of your seat moments in that game. So I'd be highly encouraged if I, you know, I was a Jets fan.
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Ryan Russillo
Okay, well said. I also thought your breakdown of the week one stuff. There was an Aaron Rodgers thing where it's like, all right, four touchdowns, the three off a play action, but then also it was. Was it a bit of a warning how often the third down throws are short of the line of scrimmage? Because that's probably not something we're thinking about with him, right?
- [39:49]
Ted Nguyen
Yeah, I mean, I think it's a good thing that he's allowing Arthur Smith to run the offense that he wants to run, because play action and bootlegs and motion is all stuff that he did not like and kind of wanted to get away from when he left Green Bay. And obviously it didn't work out for him. So it's a good thing that he's running the offense as is and he's kind of playing within the system. But, you know, like, if you look at the numbers, you look at, oh, it's four touchdowns, you think Aaron Rodgers is back. But a lot of it was short passes DK Metcalf creating after the catch play action, getting guys wide open. One of his touchdown passes was basically a tap pass, which is kind of, basically a handoff so he played well through really quickly through short of the sticks. That formula isn't always going to work week after week, so it still kind of remains to to be seen if he could execute on third and long and that sort of deal. But it's a good sign for the Pittsburgh Steelers that he can run the system at a high level. I just don't think that, you know, he's going to be the Aaron Rodgers people think he is just because he threw four touchdown passes in week one.
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Ryan Russillo
Read Ted on the athletic it's outstanding stuff perspective and then again his film breakdowns which I find are actually easy to read and then have better understanding as you prep up for another week of football. Thanks man. Talk soon.
- [41:14]
Ted Nguyen
No problem. Thanks for having me on.
- [41:15]
Ryan Russillo
Okay, let's talk FanDuel. We last year went Sharp money couch and it was a bad year for the Sharps. Bad year for the house. Although anybody that does it for a living and then how much resentment they have towards the betting public when they do well, it's a little annoying. So we try to do something different. And then last year I still think the Sharp number ended up coming in better than Couch money research because fading the public wasn't really working last year either I guess. Again, I don't know a ton about this stuff but friends of mine that do this were like it was set in a disastrous year on kind of fading the public on some of that stuff. So last year the Sharp pick was the Browns for week one winner. This week Sharps because it's just an ugly ass line. The jets plus six and a half at home against the Buffalo Bills. So you could always play Bills. You know the great thing is as good as the packers look and as good as any team, you know the two or three they're going to look great the first four or six weeks. Chances are these teams are still going to end up like four or five losses. So there's going to be some awful week in there. It's just trying to figure out whether it's a matchup, whether it's an injury thing that people are a little bit more educated on that are paying closer attention to that stuff or just the momentum of the week to week survival of this league. So the pick right now from the Sharps plus six and a half jets at home against the Bills. I'm going to give you three other picks that I like because they're all gross and you're just not going to like betting it. Atlanta opened at plus four and a half at Minnesota it's now three and a half. I like Atlanta. The Bears are plus six plus six and a half depending on where you're going to find it. I think it's plus six and a half right now on FanDuel, so let me check that out as I scroll through. Yep, six and a half. Looking at it this morning. So I like Chicago. We could talk about Ben Johnson going up against his defense, but it's a different defensive coordinator. You could talk Chicago and how bad it actually looked over the entirety of the game. So you're not going to like doing that. But there you go, Bears. And I like Carolina. Plus six and a half Opened it plus four and a half at Arizona. Carolina looked terrible. So those are the pick and check it all out. And don't forget that profit boost for all customers by going to sportsbook.fanduel.com this episode is brought to you by the Wells Fargo Active Cash Credit Card this is an ad for the Active Cash credit card from Wells Fargo. That's a mouthful, but that's because it packs a lot in. Earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases with it, big or small. 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- [46:49]
Kyle
You want details?
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Worgon
Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet.
- [46:54]
Ryan Russillo
What's up?
- [46:56]
Kyle
I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork.
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Worgon
I have every toy you can possibly imagine.
- [47:01]
Kyle
And best of all, kids, I am liquid.
- [47:05]
Worgon
So now you know what's possible.
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Ryan Russillo
Let me tell you what's required lifeadvice rrmail.com Kyle Steve potentially Worgon so, you know, the follow ups have been so good lately that I feel like I've been starting. We have a little time, a little room on today's show. So I'm just never gonna hesitate if we think we can be helpful here. So it's almost like community life advice. How are you guys, by the way?
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Worgon
I'm back on track, if anyone was wondering. I was totally back. I was even able to wipe that fucking food off of Worgon's thank you note. Cleaned the office. Did my little three and a half miles today. Showered. Yeah, I was showering at like four o'. Clock. Really threw my whole day off. But yeah, I'm back on track.
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Ryan Russillo
You're swearing a lot lately, though.
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Worgon
What's that?
- [47:54]
Ryan Russillo
Have you noticed I'm not necessarily like, saying, hey, clean it up. But you're.
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Worgon
I'm swearing a lot.
- [47:59]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. Like Wednesday.
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Worgon
It was a while where I was on. On Top of Mind and I guess. All right, I'll add it to the list. Thanks. Way to take me down a notch.
- [48:09]
Ryan Russillo
I'll be better. Hey, I'll be better if that's gonna rattle you. You're softer than I thought and I don't think you're soft.
- [48:17]
Worgon
Noted.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, right. I'm not even gonna ask how Cerutty's doing after that. Okay. Hatfish solution. We had a lot of these. Now, my least favorite content is probably we bat something around for 10 minutes and then somebody comes up to something super obscure and it's like, you know, I usually like the pod, but I cannot believe you. And it's like, like somebody the other day was asking me if I'd read this book and then they were like, I thought you were into history. And I was like, I am, but I have not read.
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Worgon
There is a lot of them.
- [48:46]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, that's quite expensive.
- [48:49]
Kyle
How far you want to go back? Yeah.
- [48:52]
Ryan Russillo
Like, you're North Korea. South Korea stuff sucks. Like, I agree because there's a lot of holes I write to. I have a running list.
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Kyle
Your Sumerian knowledge is not up to date.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, no, totally. I've got a whole list of like, I just have a timeline starting from below zero and then up and I just go like, okay, this is a massive gap. And then I just, you know, it's like a life to do list. It's not like, hey, this week I got to pick up dry cleaning. It's by the time you're 70. Have a better understanding.
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Kyle
You Decided to know all the history. Just decided that.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I always try now, you know, like, people think, like. I know. I think about what I would say on my deathbed a lot, which I know a lot of people do too. And I'm. I think I'll just be like, either. So many books I didn't finish. My greatest regret. Yeah. I'd be like, do you regret not having kids? I'd be like, I regret not finishing all the Atkinson stuff. Whack.
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Worgon
That's whack. That's a whack thing to say on your deathbed.
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Kyle
It is kind of a douche comment.
- [49:51]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, noted. I'll put that on the to do.
- [49:55]
Kyle
List that down.
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Ryan Russillo
The life. I'm gonna pen right here. Okay. You guys may have taken that a little too seriously anyway. Yeah, probably. What do we got here? We got somebody from Target checking in now, look, shout out to Target. I shop there. I don't know that they've ever been a sponsor. I don't know if they're gonna love this email. But we just. We want to help everybody because we did have somebody kind of just chime in and, you know, like, the karma police. Although sometimes when I think about karma, I'm like, that guy's doing pretty well, and he sucks. So I never know.
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Kyle
But not 100% hit rate, but, you know.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, they're more like guidelines. Yeah, it feels a bit like drafting quarterbacks in the first round. Great. Great points, Rudy. So anyway, huge fan. Never miss an episode. I want to give some perspective as a longtime Target employee. I've run stores for a long time, and I can tell you that in this situation, again, we had somebody who picked up a tv, ordered it online, picked it up in person, had a bunch of kids. They did the whole transaction, brought the TV home, set it up, and realized they never processed it right. And they refunded him for the tv. So he's like, what do I do? What do I do? And I think most people kind of knew what the move was. Even if you're. Yeah. If you feel a little guilty about it. I do think if it's Dan and Debbie's home audio, that's where you have to step up and think about the small business. So, again, I'm not trying to sound like I'm running for mayor, but I just. I think everybody knows what the rules are, even if we don't like to admit it. And I'm not even saying that I'm admitting it. Right, Right. So here's a guy who works and manages Stores. And he's telling us basically the easiest thing for everyone is just keep the TV and pretend nothing happened. Target system sucks. And what happened here is an employee just didn't process your order correctly. Unfortunately, if you went up there to try to do the right thing, it would create mass confusion. You'd end up spending 30 plus minutes explaining the situation to multiple people all the way up through stored management. But nobody would know what to do and you'd leave extremely frustrated. Literally the only solution is just say you wanted to pay for a TV and leave it at the store. There are similar situations that happen all the time, similar to what Oregon, AKA Wargon described with Callaway. We've had people bring in their duplicate items. There's literally nothing the system can do if the person just leaves it with us. We have to destroy it or donate it because it's a system limitation. My advice is do exactly what Worgon said. Sometimes life works out and sometimes you have to charge it to the game. Take the win.
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Worgon
Side note, I wonder why all these massive stores like it'll you go into a Best Buy, Target, whatever. I mean, model's was way down that list too. It's like, why are all the computers like a full generation behind what everyone's using and you have to do complicated stuff. And how many times have you heard like, yeah, the system's not cooperating today. Well, that's all the system is supposed to do. You need a new system. Everything is like those big old clickety clack keyboards and it's like how, how.
- [52:59]
Ryan Russillo
Windows 97's got iPads, chick fil A's.
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Worgon
Got iPads and you guys are using dial up basically. It's crazy.
- [53:06]
Kyle
The keyboard is literally like beige from just like years of staining on it. Yeah, it's like cigarettes.
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Worgon
The loudest thing you've ever heard. It's like, how is this what you're doing to process a. You know, I'm supposed to return a basketball hoop. What the hell is going on here?
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Kyle
Yeah, it feels like, it feels like the same maybe excuse for the like the McDonald's McFlurry machine not working. Is it like, is it not working? Or you just not want to really deal with the hassle of using? Maybe that's the return.
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Worgon
Yeah, I feel like Jimmy in it today.
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Ryan Russillo
I know a lot of people talk about culture with those ice cream machines, but I was at a family farm in the middle of nowhere, Vermont this summer, just driving around. I went, you know what, I'm going to get a little soft Serve mom and pop shop, locally owned family. They had a little car out in front of the farm. I'm like, look at me giving back to the community. I don't even care how much this cone costs. I'm like, I never get soft serve. I'm gonna do it. I rolled up. She's like, it's not working. And I was like, you know what? Another data point right here.
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Worgon
Right? Yeah, extrapolate that.
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Ryan Russillo
I do think department store keyboard beige would be an awesome crayon color, whatever that is. It is. You're so right, Saruti. It is a very specific with speckles of dirt and age. So, look, the message here isn't F everyone. I hope that's clear. But, you know, we have a guy on the inside going, feel less guilty about that TV transaction.
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Kyle
You ever buy something off of Amazon? And yeah, usually they're.
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Ryan Russillo
We love Amazon. They're sponsors, you know. Yeah.
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Kyle
But usually they're lower on the rung of, like, cost levels. But they'll just be like, if you want to return it, they'd be like, yeah, just keep it. You know, like that.
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Ryan Russillo
I've never said it for us to.
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Kyle
Take it back than it is for you to just. Just take it. I bought a pair of sunglasses. Didn't really like the way they fit on my face.
- [54:45]
Ryan Russillo
They were.
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Kyle
I think they were like, you know, under 20 bucks. And they were like, yeah, just keep it.
- [54:50]
Ryan Russillo
It's fine.
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Worgon
Yeah, but it's. It's. It's not always because my wife ordered this. I mean, I don't want to say what it is. It was like a stupid thing. It cost, like $4.
- [54:58]
Ryan Russillo
They sent in this.
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Worgon
They sent an empty. I'm not going to do it. They sent an empty package. There was nothing in it. And the thing would only have been, I don't know, a couple of ounces in weight, so I could see how it slips through the cracks or whatever. But they sent this empty package, and I went to go say I never got it, but I did get the package, and there was no option. They were like, what do you mean? They're like, so just send it back. I'm saying there's nothing in the package. And it was just like, this does not compute. And I was like, wow, Amazon who? I've returned stuff to Amazon many times, but when the. When they give you the package that's empty, no one knows what to do. So there's an Amazon guy out there. Let me know for next time. And I wanted to leave it alone. And my wife was like, no, no, no, I'm not. We're not taking this $4 loss. I was like, I don't know where to go from here. They're talking about maybe calling me, and I can't. I can't do that.
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Ryan Russillo
I just don't like the clear SIM card cases. Kyle. Yeah. So hat solution. Should have thought of this one. It's great. So easy solution. Take the guy to a sporting event where they sing the national anthem. Saw that one has to take the hat off. Unless he's in the military. That's the kind of one where you're like, we need to do better, but that's it. I mean, again, iron sharpens iron here.
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Worgon
I don't know.
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Kyle
I feel like we've got lax on the hat thing, but.
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Ryan Russillo
What do you mean?
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Kyle
I think. I don't think. I feel like people don't always take their hat off.
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Worgon
Yeah. I've been at the Dodgers seeing a couple caps still on when everyone stands up.
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Ryan Russillo
I think that's accurate. I don't know if that's a generational thing or what's happening, to be honest with you. But, you know, sometimes you just forget. Like, I've had one on and just in the moment, kind of forgotten and.
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Worgon
Just becomes a part of you after a while.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah. Somebody taps you and you're like, oh. You know, you generally feel bad. I mean, it is, I think, a very easy mistake. But the thing is, you got people out there looking for it. Like, they didn't even care. They didn't even notice when the anthem starts.
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Worgon
Tony Soprano in the restaurant.
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Ryan Russillo
Right? Yeah.
- [56:55]
Worgon
Just curse again.
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Ryan Russillo
I'm making. I'm gonna. These three hours are gonna be awesome. Once I find, like, three guys, right, that have hats. Hey. You know, and you just. There's a way to handle it or whatever, but if it's your date and he doesn't do it, although you don't know, like, if he served. Okay. I don't know. I mean.
- [57:15]
Ted Nguyen
Yeah.
- [57:16]
Ryan Russillo
Unrelated. Unrelated. Did you guys see Friendship?
- [57:22]
Worgon
Yes. Loved it.
- [57:23]
Kyle
Not yet.
- [57:24]
Ryan Russillo
Paul Rudd, Tim Robinson. Have you seen the outtakes of that anywhere?
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Worgon
I saw the one, the long one, where the guy's like, Tim's in front of his drum set. But that's the only one I saw.
- [57:35]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. I think I've seen four of the outtakes from the drum set scene. It was a Conor o', Malleys, the other guy who was in Detroiters with him. And he's also, you know, I think you should leave. He has one outtake where he's wearing a Vietnam vet hat. And Tim is like, hey, what's. What's that, that hat? He's like, are you vet? He's like, no, I'm just a huge fan. I think I have seen that. He's like that stolen valor. He's like, it's not. He's like, guys think it's great. He's like, I bought it, guys. Yeah. He's like, it's my favorite. It's so good. Anyway, shout out to Connor. All right, a couple emails. What do we got? All right. Ruin new co workers life 3, 1, 5, 10, 170 can bench 225 but rarely go that hard anymore. Well, if you have that mindset, will you ever go hard again? Just. Just a thought. Player cop is wizards Paul Pierce. I rarely do anything but I still like to take the last shot. I think he was still up call game box score plus, to be honest with you, after that Wizards run is when it started. The old Windshare 48 numbers took a pretty steep decline those last two years. I started a new job at an investment firm last week. I work in a mid sized firm and there were eight other new hires that started with me. As we wrapped up our first week of new hire training, our HR rep hosted a fun game of company Jeopardy. The HR rep is a young, energetic person who clearly hasn't had the life sucked out of her by corporate America yet. She was excited, excited to introduce Jeopardy. As this was the first time she had tried it out the game HR rep would ask a question and we would all click a buzzer that showed who raised their hand first. The game started and a 2829 year old man named let's call him George answered the first three questions right off the bat. Not wanting to win but not wanting zero points, I buzzed in during the next question a few seconds before the HR rep was done reading the question. I got the answer right, but I opened up Pandora's box. George took my idea to the extreme. It proceeded to buzz in as soon as each new question was clicked into. He proceeded to buzz in first for 19 of the next 21 questions. Well, you really kept track. You hate this guy. An answer to them all. Halfway through George's personal game of Jeopardy. The poor HR rep tried a quote. I hope someone else gets a chance to answer. But George was not deterred. You could see it's a bunch of third graders. George proceeded to squeeze the life and energy out of everyone from the group and from our HR host. The game was ruined and I've now Decided to make George my mortal enemy. Training will continue for the next few weeks, so I'll have plenty of time on my hands to annoy George as he annoyed me. What can I do over the next two weeks to make this guy's life hell? It appears he's married, so calling him a virgin won't work in this instance. Although if he is married and still a virgin, it's probably gonna sting.
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Kyle
Double double whammy.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah. Yeah. Like, dude, I know. He just gives you this stare of emptiness. I'm thinking classic stuff like steal the lunch, shoot down every idea he has, and overall undermine him in any way possible. Thank you for the many years of laughs and joy. Wow. Hates this guy. I think my question is, what if he got. Did he get 19? Right?
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Worgon
I feel like he would have said if he got him wrong. He was keeping track. So it sounds like maybe he did.
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Kyle
I think usually those HR questions, though, are, like, pretty. You know, their layups, it's like, below you, you know?
- [60:56]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
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Kyle
Should you punch someone at work? No.
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Worgon
You're going to have plenty of time to hate this guy. What? Like you're not even really in gen pop yet. There might be somebody you hate way more. And then you've got two enemies at work. I mean, really, you should only have room for one guy you really hate. And I would just wait on this. Everyone else in that room saw what you saw, too. They might not be as fired up as you are, but, I mean, there might be someone when you're in the regular workings of work, that you're like, wow, this guy's way worse. And now you've made two enemies. I don't know. I'd wait.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah, somebody sent me a training question because we used to have to do this at Disney a lot. It always turned to this classic, like, on air, guys never wanted to do it ever. I think some dudes even paid people to do it for him. And then some manager would come running in and be like, you haven't done your eight last eight. Compliance things like, my job is to have takes. Right? My job is to walk in when that light goes on, be ready. It's like, not really. You need to do these. So I would do them. Somebody sent me one from a recent training thing they had, and it was like, should you say this at work? Hey, you caused these problems yourself. From what I can tell.
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Worgon
It'S crazy that anyone's qualified to write those questions. Like, it's a. Every. Every job needs it. It's like, you know, the highest of the highest managers are making sure this stuff gets answered and anyone can write those questions. It's crazy.
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Ryan Russillo
I think I'd like to see a debate show where they go over HR training questions and then there has to be a guy zagging and being like, okay, it is harsh, but it is to the point. And what if you're right?
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Worgon
Right. Make this work.
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Ryan Russillo
From what I can tell, this is all on you 100%. Well, look, if he got them right, I almost think you got to leave him alone. But for the sake of the email here, you have to bring in somebody else. Somebody else that you trust. Like whenever we used to have to do anything related to any kind of corporate stuff. And again, on air, people didn't really have to do this all that often. But every now and then, every now and then they load us all into a room. And usually just Van Pelt and I again, we were aligned because we're on the same show, but we would have a lot of fun in those with eye contact. And then after 30 minutes I would usually tap out because it was just like Mike and Mike is the best. And then Colin would be like, I'm the best. And Scott and I would just sit there. And so I would just be like, are we sure? I would just get to the point of 30 minutes of it where I would just start asking stupid questions only to entertain Scott. So I think what you need to do here is you need to figure out a way. And it's not so much that you're ruining George's life, because that seems a little harsh, especially if he's just great and he understands his history. Maybe there's no gaps whatsoever in his timeline. But if he's an annoying go getter, which maybe again, maybe he deserves praise for that, you probably need to invite somebody else in and just start asking ridiculous follow ups to see if he'll answer those or something like that. I think you need to make this more entertaining for you and one other person because it's kind of psychotic to do it by yourself. Yeah. And enjoy it and stealing the lunch. You know, I mean that's, that's crossing a line. Like you know how bad it is when you're going. You have this anticipation of this thing that you're about to eat in three or four hours and then it's not there. I mean, that's a form of kidnapping, really.
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Worgon
Yeah, it's, it's really, it's a little psychotic and no fun. Not as much fun to hate a guy in silent. If then if you have like a partner. So I'd wait. And to my earlier point, I really think there might be someone else. Once you actually start working with everyone and you're done with training, you might hate that guy more. And now you put all this energy into hating a guy that now hates you and now there's a new guy. I think you should try to keep it to one mortal enemy. So I just slow play this.
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Kyle
I'd like to think that our guy. Because there's a version of this that's funny to me where this guy just starts ripping off 20 straight answers and takes this game so seriously. Like, my first instinct wouldn't be to hate that guy.
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Worgon
He's a nightmare at softball.
- [65:03]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
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Kyle
Like, I don't know, like there's something kind of funny about it. You know, maybe there's something a little off about him or whatever. And he might be kind of a good dude to be around because he just doesn't really understand these cues. I. So I don't know, maybe this guy, this guy obviously knows the situation better than we do and maybe he has a huge tool and was just taking it way too seriously and ruining everyone's fun. But I'm kind of with Kyle. Like, I don't know that you just. Could he just leave it alone? I don't like what else. I guess see if he does anything else that's more annoying. Like you're still so early in the game that, like, maybe he's. Maybe he's actually like a sick worker and like he's just looking to make friends that could help you out down the road. Like, I don't know. I think I'd give it more time.
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Worgon
Sounds like he thinks it's going to be a Jim and Dwight situation. And that was funny. But I mean, this is real life and there's probably other things that come from that that you're not thinking of.
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Kyle
But at that point Jim, you know, Jim had other people that were kind of in on the thing.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
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Kyle
And like. Yeah, like you need to do that first.
- [65:51]
Ryan Russillo
Agreed. The meatball cold open wasn't that funny.
- [65:58]
Worgon
What?
- [65:59]
Ryan Russillo
Just thinking about the office when Jim would make meatballs and put them in Dwight's desk. And then Stanley and Dwight were like, ha, we're getting free meatballs.
- [66:07]
Worgon
Yes.
- [66:07]
Ryan Russillo
All week. You know, like, that's excessive. I don't think anybody would make that many meatballs. Yeah. I mean, look, maybe. Maybe the emailer. We're not giving him enough credit here just because if he's this worked up about it to send in the email. Like, maybe this guy. Because there is a version of this guy who absolutely sucks. And this was the clincher for him. Like, there were other things that he didn't like. And then he goes and he does this and he takes it super seriously. But, you know, a lot. Like a really great basketball player who decides it's beneath him to try hard. Maybe that's what you are. Maybe you're amazing. You know, maybe you're. You're in the pickup game of life and you got these Georges trying really hard and boxing out and stuff. And you just know that you're more talented than him. And that's the win. That's the win you take home with you every day. And you don't need to steal his food. Okay, tone of today is weird. I don't know. Is it me?
- [67:05]
Worgon
I'm getting a little of it. I don't know what it is. Can't put my finger on it.
- [67:09]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. What do you think it is? Can we. Is it bad? Do we need to turn things around?
- [67:13]
Worgon
No. Hey, it's third down. Let's try again.
- [67:16]
Ryan Russillo
All right, I like that. Okay, big third down here. Big third down. All right, let's go. Nice. Big third down. What do you do? I don't watch the game, but I tweet constantly if there's a big third down. I mean, like, usually third, seven, third, and eight. Fourth quarter, one score game. Those are pretty big. So I just want to make sure all 1200 followers know what's up, guys checking in at 5 10. NFL 5 10, 155. No gym stats or pickup comp to share, but I play a decent amount of golf and fluctuate between a 10 and 12 handicap. All right, man. The reason I'm emailing is I'm getting out on the links myself today. But the reason I'm emailing is hoping the gang can settle a debate between my wife and me. We live in Columbus. Feel free to use Too late. And we have what I would say is a fair to above average number of bikers, both recreational and those using their bike as a primary mode of transit. These bikers drive me nuts for a host of reasons. My wife believes that I have an unhealthy obsession and hatred towards bikers. I believe they've taken a seemingly innocuous and healthy hobby and completely ruined it with their disregard for others and or basic rules of the road. Hoping you guys can help us out and settle this debate. My complaints are as follows. We've got bullet points, buddy. The major loves dots complaint One, bikers think that the rules of the road do not apply to them. They love riding their bikes in the street like they are any old motor vehicle. You'd think that if bikers are going to pretend that they're a motor vehicle, they'd follow the same rules every car abides by. Well, I'm here to tell you this is rarely the case. So far, I'm aligned with you and I've biked, but yeah, I mean, stop, sides, lights and that stuff. Sidewalks doesn't apply to them. But then as soon as they're on the road with you, like, I don't.
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Worgon
Know, man, stop signs drive me low nuts with bikers.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah. If cars are lined up at a stoplight, bikers love rolling past the line of cars that get to the front of the line. What's worse, I don't know that he's supposed to, like, stay necessarily right in line on that one. Maybe I'll give him a pass on that. What's worse, most bikers arrive at the red light, they look for cross traffic, and if no one's coming, they blow the red light and pedal right through the intersection. I agree. Bikers also slow down traffic as they rarely exceed 15, 20 miles an hour. Couldn't they use the uninhabited sidewalk that is literally right next to the road? Well, no, no, you can't. I don't think you can. Like, when I see there was a car the other day, I mean, again, I don't know how this stuff pops up. There was full 10 speed going and he was on the sidewalk and a truck pulled into a gas station and the biker slammed into the truck. It actually looked a little bit too like the bike wanted to hit the truck. Looked like he had plenty of time to slow down. But I don't know. I didn't. I didn't have a radar gun on it. But, you know, that's be the first thing is you would say, well, I didn't see you, but it's like, well, you were on the sidewalk. I'm sure that's the first thing a cop would say. Bikers love to throw up their arms and dismay like James Harden when he's like a foul call anytime a car passes them. Are we supposed to be late for our engagement? Because bikers want to get a little exercise on a nice sunny day. Complaint 2. A lot of biking enthusiasts dress like they're climbing the Pyrenees. I'm totally forgetting a good workout, wearing appropriate attire. But do bikers really need to dress up like they're in the late Stages of the Tour de France.
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Worgon
Sound a little haterish here. Sound a little haterish here.
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Ryan Russillo
This could be an example of like make the one point and we're on your side and then it's your own points are diminishing the impact of the overall point. If a college student or delivery driver can bike in regular everyday clothing, why can't other bikers? Well, look, I'm not telling you I've got a ton of biker gear in the closet, but if they want to wear it, you know, whatever. Wind resistance. Ever heard of it before? I rest my case. I'd like to present a photo of a biker going 17 miles an hour on a 35 mile an hour road. As you can see in the picture, there's an actual bike path right next to the road, but this fellow's decided not to use it.
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Worgon
Yeah, see that, that's what I was going to ask Columbus. Columbus. I would think there's bike lanes. Collegetown, A lot of stuff going on. I would think there's bike lanes in like, you know, 70% of the places.
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Ryan Russillo
Tell you where there's bike lanes now. Boston. I cannot believe what they did with that city.
- [71:16]
Kyle
Really not my city.
- [71:17]
Ryan Russillo
Unbelievable.
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Worgon
I follow, I don't know, I don't follow this guy, but I keep seeing, I think it's the same guy who basically rides around in the bike lanes in New York city with a GoPro. And New York City, I think bike lanes are. No, it's just a free for all. Almost cursed there. I stopped myself. But it's just a free for all. And he just, he's just does a super cut of him in, in the bike lane and just, you know, old ladies with a little grocery cart, like getting ready to step off the curve. And he's like, wow, that's a great place to stand. And it's like a, it's like 10 minutes.
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Ryan Russillo
I've seen it.
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Worgon
I don't fucking people, I swear.
- [71:51]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, I, I don't. I've seen that guy's content and it's like, you know, you're going, I mean, good for you. If you could pedal fast for that long. But I've seen his stuff and, and look, the motorcycle stuff is like the all time. We've already covered that. But like, like there's these biker pages where they're constantly showing how the people driving cars are at fault. And like, they may be at fault, but if you're splitting lanes where it's legal and it's traffic, do you know how much trust you have in hundreds of people to be able to just think, hey, I wonder if as I change lanes here, if somebody could potentially be splitting traffic. And if you're a biker, you're like, well, hey, if it's the rule, then something you have to think about. But you're just, you're denying the human nature element of am I going to remember to think about this other layer of traffic? That is not always something I'm thinking about. So that biker guy that I've seen from New York City, clearly the content is him with everybody. So I think he kind of knows what he's doing. But yeah, look, I think the overall point. I'm with the emailer here, but have you ever been on a bike where somebody doesn't give you a little bit of room to pass? It's a horrifying feeling. Like when somebody's just a foot away from you on the left, like you think you're going down.
- [73:02]
Worgon
So when I was, when I was on the lime scooters before I got the Stang, what happened to those?
- [73:07]
Ryan Russillo
Anybody getting stock? What do you get a stock price on that?
- [73:09]
Worgon
There's way. I think something must have happened. There must have been some sort of cap put on. At least in Los Angeles there are way less. Or maybe the demand went down Covid probably, you know, wait, those are the.
- [73:18]
Kyle
Ones that you just like leave wherever.
- [73:19]
Worgon
And you leave wherever and old people like to knock them over in protest.
- [73:24]
Kyle
Then there's just, there's just, you know, I'm gonna swear, but there's just like scooters all over the street in these.
- [73:28]
Worgon
There are.
- [73:29]
Kyle
It looks dumb. It's dumb.
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Ryan Russillo
Yeah. That's how to. That had to have been the deal because it's over. It's already over. I was in Austin in 2019 for like Peak lime scooter season and it was like locusts. It was, it looked like scenes from like Terminator of just metal everywhere. Right when they jump ahead on the timeline and I'm thinking like, what, there's a junkyard over here? Be like, no, it's just all the scooters. And then there was awesome long form. I don't know if it was the LA Times or what, but it was just about these guys that go trying to find there's like rewards for the ones that are left. Like a non normal drop off areas. And so there would just be these vans that were just these bounty hunters.
- [74:12]
Worgon
Except two in the morning jumping your fence.
- [74:14]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, yeah. Like this world, these dudes just hunting down these scooters. And then however it would work for the compensation.
- [74:21]
Worgon
You're like four bucks.
- [74:22]
Ryan Russillo
It was, it was wild. So I don't know if that had something to do with it, but I'm. I don't know, man. It's. You kind of feel like, was there a short potential on this one? Because it's like, what city's gonna be like? Yeah, it's cool. There's just scooters a strewn, right? Yeah, strewn across. It was a classic.
- [74:39]
Worgon
Like there's not a law against this yet. So it's like, let's get in now. You know, pedal to the metal. And then I think eventually, you know, local governments were like, all right, we gotta do something. Let's put something on paper here. Cause like West Hollywood, I think it was either West Hollywood. Yeah, it was. West Hollywood was the first borough or whatever you want to call it, first little city in LA to ban it. So it would like, you get, if you're going to West Hollywood, you just cross that, the city limit and your scooter just stopped. And so there was a bunch of scooters on the city limit of West Hollywood because they had something on their little map. But it's like, you know, I think it was like one town at a time sort of deal, less estate got.
- [75:15]
Ryan Russillo
Together and did it.
- [75:16]
Kyle
Yeah, it's a perfect example of kind of like the Chipotle, you know, stealing the hot sauce.
- [75:21]
Worgon
Wow. Bringing that back.
- [75:22]
Ted Nguyen
Yeah.
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Kyle
Like you want to trust people to like put the scooters like at least on the side or stand them up on a fence somewhere out of the way. And then it just never ends up. Everyone ends up seeing that they're just in the middle of the crosswalks.
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Worgon
Well they did. Well they did. And then I would, I mean I saw videos and even in my own neighborhood I just see like it was always an old person who just couldn't understand it. And they're like in protest of the scooter being on the sidewalk. I'm going to knock it into the street. It's like, wait, so we have. It's like a two tiered screw up here. It's like, like people are riding like a holes and leaving them all over the place. And then the old people who hate those people are now throwing them into the street or like knocking them over on the sidewalk. So it was just a bad system.
- [76:01]
Ryan Russillo
I'm looking up a bunch of stuff right now. It seems like a bunch of places passed laws and then it may have been a bit like Uber in the beginning. Remember like first time somebody introduced you to Uber. They're like, yeah, it's way cheaper and the cars are here and you don't have to tip. And it was like, just give me a taste. Just give me a little bit of taste. We'll give the entire world a little taste. And then we're going to hit them with the real price. So I don't know if that was part of it too. I guess the company. I don't even know if any of this is true, but there's no stock price. By the way, it never went public.
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Kyle
I will say, too, off of the GoPro dash cam thing, it does feel like some of those videos, the people are just looking. It's content. So the people are looking for a reason for someone to hit them or to, you know, to create.
- [76:48]
Worgon
Call up Morgan and Morgan. Yeah, get that going.
- [76:52]
Kyle
There's some dash cam stuff where it's just like, okay, you're like, you know, like, this doesn't. This feels like it's too convenient to be actually true, you know, So. I don't know. I know. I know dash cams are good. I mean, people say, get a dash cam because you never know. Like, you know, if somebody hits you and there's nobody, there's no witnesses. Like, obviously you'll have evidence. But it does feel like people just use those sometimes to, I don't know, just create good content for whatever fee they're trying to curate.
- [77:14]
Worgon
Wargon. I don't know. I know you don't have a ton of square footage, but you got a bike on the wall. You bike around New York.
- [77:20]
Ryan Russillo
I can see that.
- [77:21]
Ted Nguyen
I'm too afraid to bike around New York.
- [77:23]
Worgon
Oh, to be a good person. Very nice.
- [77:26]
Ted Nguyen
Just like, people are running red lights all over the place. There's people jaywalking.
- [77:30]
Kyle
Like, I have some friends who have gotten hurt. It just doesn't seem worth it.
- [77:34]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. Stand on your own.
- [77:35]
Worgon
Exercise. Go.
- [77:36]
Ryan Russillo
Run.
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Worgon
Dude, what was that?
- [77:38]
Ryan Russillo
Did you see the movie Quicksilver with Kevin Bacon when you were a kid or something? No, like a man.
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Ted Nguyen
Don't know what that is.
- [77:46]
Ryan Russillo
1985.
- [77:48]
Kyle
85.
- [77:49]
Ryan Russillo
Why, that's a. Yeah, it was Kevin Bacon. I think that'll do it. I don't know. I don't know what the tone was today. I don't feel like it was bad.
- [77:59]
Worgon
I just settled for a field goal.
- [78:01]
Ryan Russillo
It's all right.
- [78:01]
Worgon
You'll take it.
- [78:02]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah, but see, that's on me. I'm the one calling place. I'm the one. I'm the one dropping back. I'm not going to blame my receivers.
- [78:12]
Kyle
Nice. You're the offensive coordinator and the quarterback in this scenario.
- [78:17]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. Okay. Anyone want to dispute it?
- [78:24]
Kyle
No.
- [78:25]
Ryan Russillo
No. We did see the War Gone tackle video. Holy shit. How does that win an Emmy, man? I did Won a Mid Atlantic Emmy. Oh, Mid Atlantic.
- [78:36]
Ted Nguyen
Collegiate. Collegiate. Mid Atlantic.
- [78:38]
Worgon
Really?
- [78:39]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. God, there's a lot of Emmys out there.
- [78:41]
Kyle
I have no idea. That's true.
- [78:43]
Ryan Russillo
Or not. He wouldn't. Worgon would not lie to us.
- [78:47]
Ted Nguyen
No.
- [78:47]
Ryan Russillo
He's a lot of things. It was. Now give me a statue. It was funny.
- [78:51]
Worgon
Like, 100 bucks for that.
- [78:53]
Kyle
I don't.
- [78:54]
Ted Nguyen
They sent me an email about it. I don't think there was, like, a statue or anything.
- [78:57]
Ryan Russillo
Okay.
- [78:58]
Worgon
Get a sticker.
- [78:59]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah.
- [79:01]
Worgon
Put a magnet.
- [79:01]
Ryan Russillo
This is kind of crazy, though. Worgon's got an Emmy. Yeah.
- [79:05]
Kyle
The only Emmy on the show.
- [79:07]
Ryan Russillo
We should have to do an episode. Yeah. I mean, I don't. I would never be nominated for anything. Stuff I've done. Come on.
- [79:16]
Worgon
A Webby something. Nothing.
- [79:19]
Ryan Russillo
No. Whenever I've seen, like, any awards for that stuff, it's usually, like, I would say there's a very consistent pattern of if somebody from a magazine or newspaper writes about their favorite, like, radio shows or podcasts, you'll see the list.
- [79:37]
Kyle
Sports podcast list.
- [79:38]
Ryan Russillo
Yeah. And you'll go, I haven't heard of most of these. Okay. Yeah.
- [79:46]
Worgon
BS Pod won an Emmy era. Webby. Right before I got on, and I.
- [79:49]
Ryan Russillo
Was like, well, we're.
- [79:49]
Worgon
I definitely missed it.
- [79:51]
Ryan Russillo
Tate.
- [79:51]
Worgon
Tate has the statue in his. In his. In his. His house. And I was like, damn. Definitely missed the train. They're probably not going to double back.
- [79:58]
Kyle
I think I got an email once about, like, hey, you know, fill out.
- [80:01]
Worgon
This form, dude, those Webbies. They are.
- [80:04]
Kyle
Yeah. Bill Simmons has been nominated. Fill out this form, whatever, blah, blah. I think I asked Bill about it. It was like, I don't care, dude.
- [80:09]
Worgon
It was like, it's like four months. It's four months of last chance to pay 500 bucks to be on the list. And they're just like, you know, it's almost like a collection plate. It's like I've just unsubscribed, and somehow they keep getting at me. Last chance. Like, I thought you said the last chance was four months ago. Like, yeah, if you do want to pay 500, we'll squeeze you in.
- [80:27]
Kyle
That's the thing. If you have to pay money to.
- [80:29]
Ryan Russillo
Win an award.
- [80:32]
Kyle
At what point is that just, like, a participation trophy?
- [80:34]
Ryan Russillo
Well, I don't know, Mr. Olympia. There's probably an entry fee.
- [80:37]
Kyle
All right, that's fair. But I don't know.
- [80:40]
Worgon
Got to keep the lights on, I guess.
- [80:41]
Ryan Russillo
You're saying Webbies are different. You're probably right.
- [80:45]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [80:48]
Ryan Russillo
I think we end on that. No, we found a way. We found a way. All right. Thanks to Wargon. Thanks to Ceruti. Thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Jonathan Frius. Ryan Solo podcast Also available in video form on the Spotify app and our YouTube page. Please subscribe Ryan Russell Podcast.
- [81:02]
Ted Nguyen
Bring your Spotify they were gonna name me Michael Jordan. My dad was like, I don't think he can live up to it. So they named me Michael.
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Ryan Russillo
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