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Are the Chiefs Done? Eagles Hate & the Shedeur Army w/ Willie Colon | Plus Ryen’s CFB Top 12
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Ryan Rosillo
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Ryan Rosillo
Restrictions apply terms@sportsbook.draftkings.com promos week 11 we start in Denver. Are the Chiefs done? That's probably the best way to do this job. Do the breakout video. Sit here, definitively say I'm done with the Chiefs. The Chiefs are not. Forget Super Bowl. They're not playing in the AFC Championship game. They're the nine seed today. They're not making the playoffs. They're done. They've been exposed enough of this stuff holding out hope. That would be the right way to do the job. And I'd admire anybody that would have the conviction to actually like, if you really believe that, like, good, good for you. I'm not doing that to avoid oh, you ended up being wrong. I'm just not doing it because I can't do it. I can't do it with Patrick Mahomes despite the 5 and 5 record. So if I don't believe it, I can't say it. They lose another one score game eight points or less.05 on the season in those games. My eyes tell me that when the game starts, there's a plan and then it just becomes a Patrick Mahomes free for all. It's like, hey man, just like find a way, find a way. Remember, like the evolution of Mahomes, the numbers were just off the charts. Deep ball shots. Everybody wants to take the deep ball away. He's like, okay, cool, I'm just going to kill you underneath. And then it's like now, now what? What is the one thing that you know that you can go to? I mean, Kelsey had some nice looks yesterday. Rice didn't as well. Unnecessarily a great game. He's been back four games. He has three touchdowns. So it's not like he's been a nothing. But we thought this offense was going to completely open up. I think there are certain weeks where it is solely on the offensive line play. Some of the issues that they've had. But you know what's hard to do when you look at a team that is considered a Super bowl favorite? And they were all week. And I'll get you those odds as they were updating throughout the night with the loss and everything that was kind of happening in this game. Cause I was looking at it just because I still thought it was so interesting that we were through week 10. Just last season, this deep into the season, the Chiefs technically weren't even in the AFC playoff field and they were the super bowl favorites at like +500 +550. So it's like, I don't want to give up on them. Vegas doesn't want to give up on these guys. But is there enough evidence from what we see week to week to tell you, hey, guys, it's not the same team. Like, stop thinking that there's the same team. So even if yesterday, a matchup against Denver at their place against this terrific defense maybe isn't the best case, like, hey, every struggle they've had this, this season looks exactly like that Denver game. Because that's not necessarily the case. But like, back to that kind of like you can picture right now as you're listening to this. If you've been watching these games, it's like Mahomes kind of making it up. Like, what is the thing that they can go to every single week offensively that you feel really good about? Then you start digging through the numbers and you realize, yards per play better this year than last year, yards per attempt better this year than last year. Points per game up from where they were offensively last year. Yards per carry, they were 31st in the NFL in yards per carry. They're more than a half yard better per carry this season. The only thing that's dipped is the third down conversion rate, 47% last year to 41% this year. So maybe there's a little clue in that. Mahomes, statistically, this is the best season he's had since 22. I don't know if he's going to be the 50 touchdown guy again. He may not need it. Remember last year a lot of it was, how is he going to survive this entire season getting hit like this? And so far this year, I think the adjustment is the certain weeks where the offensive line doesn't necessarily look great. Like he's just right on top of just he's getting the ball out quicker this year certainly than he was last year. Look at the defensive numbers. Opponents yards per play, 5.4 last year, or excuse me, this year, but this year it's just like 5 or last year it was 5.3, this year it's 5.4. So it's, it's not really necessarily like even this massive drop off. So we get back to the one score games, they're 0 and 5. They were 11 and 0 last year. This doesn't work when it's like, hey, something's different about this team. Mahomes is different. The O line isn't as good, the defense isn't as good. There's not really, not that many numbers. Like you probably find something that's drastically different from last year to this year. But. And this, this just isn't that much fun when you're trying to figure out because like I've seen people on TV last night and this morning going, no one is afraid of the Chiefs anymore. And that may be the case, but could it be as simple as a third down doesn't go their way on offense or a third down doesn't go their way on defense? And some of the luck that they had at the end of the year or at the end of games last season just isn't happening this year. And they could be the exact same team. Mahomes could be actually even better. There's offensive numbers that tell you this team is better on offense, but it's just that one thing that's happening that isn't going their way, that was going their way last season where they could be the exact same team, but the record is that much different. I mean, that's kind of the sport. Limited number of possessions, trying to figure it out, give a possession away here or there. Next thing you know it's a ball game and you can't believe it is we're all wrapping up the one and four o' clock window games. I mean, it happens every single week. So if they're going to get back into this thing, looking at some of their losses, the first two losses were like, all right, that's weird. The Chiefs started 0 and 2, but it was the Chargers when they had their tackles and were healthy. It was Philadelphia, which is, you know, they were in the game, but certainly weren't the better team that day. The Jacksonville loss was weird. And now you've got this game against Denver after losing at Buffalo where no one wins and now they're going to be chasing Jacksonville. I don't think Bo Nix is that good.
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Willie Colon
Look, I respect who you are, but.
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Ryan Rosillo
He was really good in the second half. I mean, third and eight pass third and two, third and 15, conversion, third and five. So, you know, it feels like some of the quarterbacks that I don't like statistically, there's all sorts of stuff that you can look at that you don't necessarily like. The yards that you've missed on. Like if you looked at all the quarterbacks on those charts that are making the rounds everywhere, like, imagine North America. Let's just go America. We don't have to go North America. Imagine just America on a chart. And here's the quarterbacks plotted all over the chart of like who's giving up the most air yards on misses. And then Bo Nix's head is over by like Iceland. I know, not technically North America, but you understand, like he's way, way up there. And when I see that kind of stuff, I'm like, yeah, this is kind of why you don't necessarily like him that much. You know what, I thought he was great. Like in a big, big spot, there are huge possessions converting a bunch of third downs through the year. So the super bowl odds, after the third and 15 conversion by Denver, it went from like plus 5, 50 plus 600 to plus 700. Then it went to plus 800. It's plus 1000 today. I think they have the fifth best odds now to win the Super Bowl. If you look at the strength of schedule remaining for Kansas city, it's the 12th to toughest if they're going to catch Jacksonville for a wild card spot. Jacksonville has the 28th toughest remaining strength of schedule. So again, not that difficult. And a great Jags win just manly the Chargers yesterday. The media darlings of of the NFL. So look, Mahomes has started for seven years. This is his eighth. He's played in the AFC Championship game every single season of his career. That's not supposed to happen. And yet I still can't definitively say with them being five and five that I expect that it won't. So best win. I do think it's the Broncos. You could get into Philadelphia just handling Detroit. Even though yardage total, like you can get into some of the yardage stuff and say, well, destroyed actually moved the ball a little bit more. Well, the Phillips acquisition is huge. They hold the Lions to 3 of 13 on third downs. And more importantly, Lions go over five on fourth down. If you're going to go over five, you're probably going to lose the football game. Even though they still had a chance there after the. Well, after the pass interference call, they didn't have the chance. But I think La holding off. Seattle is also in the conversation for best win. They're up 14 3. Looks like they've got this thing rolling. Seattle's D, though, which should feel great about itself after this game. Despite the loss, they held Stafford to a season low in yards. 130 passing yards for Stafford. He had a season low per game QBR in this one. And then there was this shift where the Rams couldn't do anything because of the Seattle defense. And there was a stretch of 46 plays running this game, and Seattle ran 41 of the 46 total plays. And again, that's around the half, too. So that also plays into it. Darnold coming into this game like, we know what happened in the end of the regular season against the Lions, and then they lose the wild card game against the Rams. And in that game, he was sacked nine times. Nine times. Apparently Darnold's main motivation for this game was, I'm not getting sacked nine times. Well, he didn't get sacked any times. Zero sacks for that terrific front from the Rams that I like so much. And their corners, the corners did get involved with the four interceptions. Three. A hundred percent his fault. We could argue the one on the route. Greg Olson, you know, whenever a guy's calling a game and he's as good as Greg Olson and we're huge fans just had him on pod where he's like, yeah, it looks like he's supposed to cut that one off a little bit. It seems like he keeps going vertical a little. All right, whatever. Maybe that one's not on him. The other three are. And, you know, there's. There's something to be said. Like if somebody's throwing picks, do we always say, oh, he's panicking or he's not seeing it? Like, there's certain interceptions. Like there was a Bryce Underwood one against Northwestern on Saturday where I was like, he 100% just didn't see that this safety was like over on this other side of the throw. Like, he just locked his eyes right into the one on one with his receiver. He's like, okay, this is good. It's like, oh, what's that guy doing over there?
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Willie Colon
Right?
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Ryan Rosillo
Those are the things that younger players, they make mistakes like that. Darnold felt like he's like, I just got to get rid of the ball. I have to get rid of the football. And that led to at least three of them. But I think the panicky thing plays a little because there was some other stuff that was happening. The momentum feels like it's on Seattle Side. Despite all of the turnovers, the Rams get this absurd punt that basically lands at like the 1 inch line going out of bounds right in front of the pylon. So Seattle has to take over inside of their own one. They snap the ball at 141, complete a four yard pass. They don't snap it again until 116. And sometimes I can think like we're at home going, hey, how come you're not lined up like acting like it's super easy in these moments for football teams to get over the same page, but it's not like it was a 20 yard gainer and then everybody's all over the place. Like everybody was basically right there and it took them that long. So now you're starting to wonder like, okay, are they going to be able to, with the one timeout, are they going to be able to get back into this game, get themselves set up for a game winning field goal attempt and those things happened. But there was that play, there was another rollout to the right where I'm like, man, these plays are taking a really long time. And then of course they try to get a few extra yards to make the field goal a little bit more within the kicker's range. There's five seconds left. They have that one timeout still and Darnold pumps, he completes the pass. They somehow get the timeout with one second left. We're on the road. You never expect that that's going to happen. But Darnold, in that moment, it's like you have to get the ball out. The receiver has to get down. Like this is going to be really hard. With five seconds they actually pull it off. But that pump fake almost cost them even the chance at the game winning kick, which of course they missed. The Rams win the game. So those are all in play. I think just because of the stakes and the opponents and all that stuff. Worst loss I'm going to hold off on for a second. How about some numbers? J.J. mcCarthy, aka 9. Felt like 9 had a moment. That's his alter ego if you're learning about it. Welcome. This was a rough game for jj. Overall statement. Let me say this, I'm going to share some stuff with you that's not great on J.J. mcCarthy. If I gave you my like full state, it's five games in, everybody can relax. Let's see where he is. 20 starts. All right, all right. So that's, that's the most important part. But these games are not pretty. There was a moment, it actually happened twice. I love Brady on the call, but Aaron Andrews comes back from commercial. She shares this report, you know, in, in some time she spent with JJ McCarthy where it's like, you know, hey, I feel like I'm growing mentally, physically, emotionally. Like he's getting so much bigger.
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Willie Colon
And.
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Ryan Rosillo
He'S just kind of going into like his whole philosophy on like, hey, it's my team and these are the things I need to do. It goes up to Brady in the booth, but he's like, yeah, well, you know, and it was, you could just tell. It was like, cool, man, but whatever. I mean, Brady's probably wired as. Is different as like any competitive guy and you know, in the last 25 years. But it was, it was very clear that Brady was like a bit dismissive. So I don't know if it's like, you know, the, the greater understanding and definition of like, it's like, man, you're the face of the franchise. You're just going to get out there and compete, you know, and start throwing some better passes. Because McCarthy was just air mailing these third down throws. It got really ugly. All right. Then there was another moment. At the end of the first half, Minnesota just throwing a pick. They get the ball back. So it's like two minutes left, they've got this drive and Brady lays out, he's like, in this spot. When I was a quarterback, these are the three things I was thinking about. Number one was they don't get to touch the football again. All right, this is my ball. I'm going to ride it out whether we score, don't score, attempt a field goal. I have to run this offense. Looking at clock and situation, I cannot allow the opponent to get the football back now that I have it. With two minutes left to close out the first half, he's like, number two is, I'm thinking field goal, thinking, what can I do to make sure that we get a field goal range? Number three is once I'm in field goal range and I start looking at times and timeout, the whole thing. Now I'm getting greedy. Like, now I'm starting to think touchdown. And right as he says all of these things, McCarthy throws another interception and does the exact opposite of everything that Brady had laid out. So if we look at some of these numbers on target throws, Pro Football Reference, which I spend a lot of time on, an on target throw is described as a pass that would have hit the receiver, the intended receiver. All right, so if it's a drop or if it's a pass breakup, like, pretty simple, right? I think we all get it. On target throws. Drake May leads the NFL this season right now. Percentage of throws that are on target. He has an 80% on target rate. Right. Josh Allen's 12th. He is his on target throws. He's on target 73% of the time. A lot of the guys near the top, it's like a percentage point, maybe not even. Right. It's. It's all kind of bunched up. League average. 69 throws being on target. J.J. mcCarthy is last among the 35 quarterbacks that qualify for this at first. 45%. We rounded up 45%. I think he was 58 before yesterday's game. 45. Only one of the quarterback of the 35 that qualifies under 59%. That's Jacobe preset. Not great, Bob. So again, definitive statement. It's five games in, we can all relax. It's not that big of a deal, but so far not great. Staying with the numbers part of this because I'm saving. Worst loss for you. Bryce Young lit it up for the Panthers. All right. And not that long ago, there was a tweet that was sent out as I'm trying to find it here, about Bryce Young and how rare, how rare some of his stats were. This is from just a week ago. Rare for a quarterback like Bryce Young. This is from Scott Barrett, I guess to be as bad as he's been and still be starting in the league. Worst career yards per attempt average since the Vietnam War. Minimum 650 pass attempts. Bryce Young was 8th worst at 5.8. Ahead of him, Bruce Gradkowski, Shane Matthews. Remember Mike Phipps. Ryan Leaf is on this list. David Klingler. Love that guy in college. Chris Wenke. And the worst career yards per attempt. Minimum 650 pass attempts since the Vietnam War. Our good friend Danny Cannell. Danny did, quote, tweet this and celebrate it, and that's why I saw it. Well, that wasn't the case yesterday because Bryce lit it up. Awesome comeback. I want to talk about that game in a second, but I want to tell a story first. It's a story I think I've told once before. I've referenced this, but I'm going to tell it again. The last year I was in Connecticut because I spent some years living in Connecticut. I was a freshman. Um, basketball is pretty important to me. Wasn't the biggest guy. Pretty small actually. Just took a little while. Took a little while. You know, some of us are on different timelines with nature and so I've mentioned him. Once or twice. But there was a guy that was a grade older than me that was on the basketball team. He was a terrific player. His name was Justin Forin, and he had the perfect disposition of anyone that I've ever. At least at the youth level, you know, because it wasn't like I was a pro. He just didn't think anybody was ever better than him. We'd go to play pickup games, and, you know, he would. We weren't going to find the games that we needed to get better, and that's the way he was always thinking about it. And we go over to Glastonbury, we go over to Manchester. I don't think we ever ventured over to East Hartford at. At that age. But he had a license, and he was like, you know, look, I'm going to come pick you up. We're going to go play basketball. We're going to keep playing basketball. We're going to get better and better and better, like, show up to some of these games at the. Like, we're going to play in this game. And he'd be like, yeah, you're better than these guys. And he was always doing that. You're better than these guys. These guys suck. He's like, these guys suck. And he'd get out there and he would just be able to hang and whatever. Even if I wasn't playing well, it was going to make me better, because that's what basketball is. You have to go keep playing against people that are so much better than you, especially if you're living in an area where you're just not going to find the competition. So in the spring of my freshman year, which was his sophomore year, we were in a class together, and he was like, hey. He goes, I got invited to try out for this. This team. This is like AAU before it was ever called aau because it wasn't, like, super fancy. It wasn't some big deal. But Ken Smith, who is the legend from Windsor. Congrats to Ken Smith on his 700th win. He was inviting a bunch of people from that area, Connecticut players that were on people's radars, that were going to come and try out for this. This team, this travel team. And so he's like, just show up with me. Just show up. I was like, dude, I didn't. I was like, you got a letter. I was like, I didn't get a letter. Like, I wasn't on anybody's radar. He's like, just. He's like, it just go cares. So I show up to the tryout, and I run around, you know, like crazy, maybe hit a couple shots, you know, play as hard as I possibly can. And I do think, I don't know If I weighed 140 pounds yet. And I wasn't even 5, 10. And I made the team. And I don't even know that I made the team because it was like, wow, this guy's really good. It was just sort of like whoever was invited was already going to make the team. And then I just showed up. So it wasn't like 50 kids tried out. It was. It was like 12, 14 maybe. I don't even know if. Yeah, it might have been 12. And he was just like, hey, everybody huddled up after, you know, we worked out for a couple hours. He's like, all right, this is the team and this is where we're going to be and this is who we're going to be playing and, you know, whatever. And it was like a big, big deal. And I think just because I was there, he either didn't realize I didn't get a letter or the other coaches or whatever, they're just like, let him play. Who cares? So then a weird thing happens. I think our first game was at Danbury, and he names the starters and he names me starting point guard and the rest of the team. I was easily the worst player on the team. And there's some other guys. Like there was a 6 foot 4 or 5 kid who was teaching me this inside out dribble. Just, just sick handles McGrady. Before there was McGrady, his son was on the team, Tylon. And Justin was like a really good player. So he was going to start and everything. So he names me the starter. And like, you just see the look on the other guys faces like what the. Like that guy's starting. And I, you know, run around for a little while. Then I was like horrified in that Danbury game. And then they yank me and whatever and I. And then I continue like I start a couple other games. We had a game in Springfield and then I don't know, three or four games in. We have like a home game, but it's in Glastonbury. And I start again, which is a joke. And I. Maybe he just liked that I played that hard or he liked my attitude in comparison to some of the other guys because there were some dudes on that team that were absolutely feeling themselves and talking about like, you know, college offers and all that kind of stuff. And so he starts me, I play like shit. I just physically am completely Overwhelmed. And he benches me and he walks me down to the end of the bench and he puts his arms around me, had this deep voice. And you know, I'm kind of like, I know. And he. And he's like, right on top of me, like, mouth almost in my ear. Are we going to kiss? He's like, shorty, you just can't. I love you, but you can't play. Like, you can't play at this level. You just can't. Like, you physically, I can't. You know I love you. I just can't play you anymore. You just. Physically, you can't. You can't play with these guys. I'm sorry. And he got up and walked away. And I'll tell you, it's probably the worst I'd ever felt about myself to that point in my life. I wanted to cry, but I'm like, you're already the biggest P word on this team. If you start crying, that will make it worse. So you can't cry. And I knew my dad was in the stands. Like, I was like, I can't look back at him because then I'm going to feel even worse. And so, you know, I got a nice speech in the F150 on the ride home from that game. And that was. That was pretty much it. Physically, I could not compete at that level. Michael Pennock's got a hurt yesterday and Kirk Cousins came into the game and they blew the lead and they lost in overtime. And I was eliminated from the one on one matchup at the end of my Survivor pool. So I made it all the way into the end. The other guy picked the Pats. I went with Atlanta revenge game after being humiliated by Carolina and then Kirk Cousins got in. So I don't feel like I lost as much as Kirk lost. So that's the worst loss. It's official. 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Not with two Angus beef patties and three buns and that new secret sauce. Not today, my friend. Times they are a changing. If you've been waiting to see what all the hype's about, today's the day. Go to Shake Shack and order the big Shack. Sounds familiar. Made different. Good friend Willie Colon joins us on the show again. We're going to talk some NFL from sny. Good morning football. And of course, first things first on Fox Sports as well. The Chiefs are kind of the headline today because they're five and five. They were super bowl favorite before this loss at Denver. Part of me is like, hey, I got to give it up. But then the other part of me is like offensively, the numbers, I went through it in the open. They're basically a better offense than they were last year, the defensive numbers. So it just feels like the luck is not there in these close games that they had last year. I don't. That's. That's one part of the story. But I feel like you guys that have played, I've seen some of the commentary last night and again this morning. Like, how do you feel about the Chiefs?
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Willie Colon
Well, I personally feel it was more or less it was from. To be honest, it was a bad day to have a bad day coming off a buy. They just look out of sync, especially Patrick Mahomes. I thought Travis Kelce had a big game. I thought defensively thought of criticism. Chris Jones has had been facing up until yesterday. I thought he had a monster game. I thought he was a minutes. It was just Patrick. Patrick was off. I think the first drive was kind of really told that story. And even the interception, too. I think it was Elijah Moore that he just couldn't get there and he ended up getting picked off the. The Broncos pick that ball off and they go down and score that drive. Right? That's. That's. That's a momentum shift. That's a lot that happens there. And it's now we're looking at a situation where the Chiefs, you know, you hit it right on the head. The luck isn't there anymore. And now they have to be money good for here here on out, and I don't know if they have it in them to do so.
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Ryan Rosillo
The old line's been the issue in some of the other games.
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Willie Colon
Yeah, he was bad.
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Ryan Rosillo
So he's got nine penalties again this year. How do you keep your job when you can't figure out how to fucking line up?
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Willie Colon
I laugh because I was. I had. I had my fair share of penalties, right? Like, I can't throw rocks, Hobie. Like, if you, if you. If somebody was a purist of the game and they go like, hey, you know, Willie Clone sitting over here talking about Juan Taylor and his.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, I had my.
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Willie Colon
I. I didn't know. I held. I went off sides. But my, you know, my statement grace is that I was a dog in the trenches, right?
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Ryan Rosillo
I fought hard.
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Willie Colon
I did a lot of things for, you know, I was considered enforcer and all these other things that you need.
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Ryan Rosillo
Okay, but did you jump in? How many of your penalties were because of the dog stuff versus alignment?
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Willie Colon
I don't. I don't know. Honestly, I would feel all the way shady if I set up in here, threw rocks at a guy who dealt with penalties when I was a guy who dealt with penalties. You get what I'm saying?
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Ryan Rosillo
So.
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Willie Colon
But I also knew a lot of my penalties came from me sometimes being over aggressive, throwing the playbook out of my head as far as mechanics. Like, listen, man, I can't beat this guy. I just got to go at him and just. And not really focusing on my fundamentals and playing within the game. And some were offsize things, you know, being off size and not really locking in. And so I look at myself and say, you know, one thing, we talk about Ryan, as players, when we get older and we retire, sometimes we have theater of the mind, right, where we kind of paint this picture of ourselves and we're not realistic about the guy who we were when we played. So when I think about Juan Taylor and I think about playing on a championship outfit like the Chiefs and going through his penalties, I'm like, man, I've had one of those games before. I've had games where I'm just not locked in like I need to be, and I've cost the offense because I wasn't at my best. So I laugh. But I also like Willie. You know, there's tape. You know, there's tape of you not performing well and giving and having stupid penalties.
- [31:24]
Ryan Rosillo
So.
- [31:24]
Willie Colon
But all the things that he has gone through and continues to go through, it's fixable. He. He just has to be better at the job.
- [31:33]
Ryan Rosillo
I Don't think the refs call it as much as they could with him. 100%, I think they call it and they're like, all right, like, we'll call this one. But, you know, this alignment thing was a priority, supposedly going back to the beginning of last year. And then he was right in the crosshairs with it because it's like he's always trying to line up a little deeper. And so you figure, I don't know, the 60, 70 times that you're lining up as an offense, you know, whatever, that number can vary, but I think that's kind of in the ballpark, like, all right, well, you know, I wasn't lined up here necessarily, but he's always. It always feels like it was a little early. Now, granted, slow motion, everything always looks like a false start because it's just. Is like you're not going to be perfectly synchronized every time the ball is snapped. So it's going to look like somebody goes a little bit earlier. And it always looks worse, obviously, in slow motion. But, I mean, this is. This is just a thing now that's gone on for years. I mean, to the point where, yeah, they spent a first round pick on the other tackle, the guard that they tried to spend a big pick on. Like, they've had to move him around a little bit. They also signed a different guy who was kind of like their swing guy that they spent a ton of money on. So I think there are games where the offensive line has looked like the issue, but at least against Denver and that ridiculous pass rush and all those dudes, I don't even know that that necessarily was the story yesterday. There's other losses where I'm like, hey, it's on the O line. I. I don't know, I'd have to go back and watch and really dig in and know what I was doing, which I'm not sure that I do, but I just didn't feel like that was the alarming moment. Those weren't the alarming moments of like, hey, this is why the Chiefs are bad today.
- [33:04]
Willie Colon
Yeah. In reference to Juan, I think, listen, when you kind of have this mechanical thing about you where you just always kind of, you know, ahead of the snap, or you just. You know, I know for me, anytime I had alignment issues is because I was always afraid of going against. I was. Well, I'm gonna say this. I was going against guys who were faster off the ball than I was, Right. So I realized, like, man, I gotta get back. I gotta get. I gotta do little Things to kind of combat that. And sometimes you get in your head and you don't even pay attention to it. To lining up kind of, you know, in reference to like being behind the line of scrimmage a little bit. And refs tell you. Refs gives you warnings. Like they tell you. I've. I've been warned plenty of times with refs. Like, hey, Willie, come on now. Like, I could have called it there or I could have said this. And they'll tell you, and they'll tell you and they'll work with you and you try to be buddy buddy with them. And I mean, there's times where I've had refs go to Mike Thomas, like, Mike, I've talked to him. I've seen you talk to them. You know, will you continue to talk to him? Like, what do. What do you. Like I've had ref. Like, what do you want us to do? Like, we gotta do our jobs. Like, if you don't line up correctly, if you don't get yourself together, we're gonna, we're gonna flag you. And there's times I'm be like, well, flag me. I don't give a shit. You know what I mean? And you get the flag and then you say, all right, you have to self correct or you don't have to get out the game. Cause you're just not, You're. You're not, you're not part of the system right now.
- [34:18]
Ryan Rosillo
You're hindering it. What's the defense saying? If they're seeing these conversations happen, they must be losing their minds.
- [34:24]
Willie Colon
Oh, yeah. Why are you, why are you working with point ref? They're like, look, look, look at him right now. Look, you know, and you know, I, I feel bad. I don't feel bad because sometimes as you get, as you get older, you. You try to be more crafty. You try to do little things within the game to kind of help you kind of be on the mark. And they can hurt you, you know, and it seems like you hit it, you know, last. You talking about last season, this has been a thing. This isn't new, right? This has kind of been a part of his makeup. But it, like I said, it's for him to correct. I. But I don't think he's. I don't think he's in the business correcting it. I think he's like, listen, man, this is, this is how I play. And so they. And because the Chiefs have been successful with him and his play style, you know, it is what it is.
- [35:07]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, there must be enough from the rest of what he's doing when he actually gets into the blocking part of it, that it's like, hey, we. We can. We can put up with it. It just. It would drive me crazy as a play caller, as a quarterback. Like, can't you just look down at the ball and figure out where you are? And. Or maybe he feels like, hey, I'm getting away with it so much, the one or two times I'm called for it. It's not that big of a deal. Again, I. I'm probably overstating this because I don't think it's that big of a part of yesterday as it is some other weeks. I remember when we worked with Schlerith, Mark Schlerith, you know, a bunch of Super Bowls as an offensive lineman. He was like, later on in my career, I would go up to the officials before the game. Like when we were getting warmed up on the field, I'd go up to them and I'd say, hey, look. And he's like. And I would put my hands, like, into their chest and be like, I'm going to hold here. But I. I know, like, I'm not going to hold up here, like, around the shoulder pads or outside of the numbers. He's like, but I'm going to hold. He goes, if you can't let me hold here on the front of the plate and on the numbers, I got to retire.
- [36:09]
Willie Colon
Yeah.
- [36:09]
Ryan Rosillo
Like, this is how I'm going to do it. And getting to know Mark, too, and just having a great personality and all that kind of stuff. Like, this is all part of the game. He's working them. But this is the. The gray area stuff where I think people kind of lose sight of, like, there's a management to officiating any of these games, whether it's football, basketball, umpiring, all that kind of stuff that, you know, people want it to be very, you know, binary. And I just, I don't. I don't think that's really the way this stuff works, so.
- [36:39]
Willie Colon
And every crew. And every crew is different. Every refer is different. Like, some refs are a little more lenient. Some guys just look one for, you know, they'll tell you, like, hey, man, if you just do xy, you ain't got. I'm not looking at you. But if you do, you know, if you're outside the shoulders or you're, you know, they'll give you little nuances in which they're looking for, but if you don't adhere to it, after you've already had the conversation, then it's like, all right, then you're telling me. You're pretty much telling me to go to hell. Like, we've had the conversation. I told you what I'm looking for. You continue to do what you want to do, and I gotta flag you. So it's just. And I was fortunate enough to be cool with some refs, and there's some refs. To this day, if I saw him at, like, a Crackle Barrel, I'll be. I'll feel like I want to crack him in the bathroom. I just can't stand them as a human being. So, yeah, there's refs. To this day, I still see him on tv. I'm like, yeah, me and my wife was watching the game yesterday. I'm just like, that ref right there. I would love to steal his ass.
- [37:34]
Ryan Rosillo
Just go walk. Right?
- [37:35]
Willie Colon
Because some refs just. They look for you. They look for you and they pick on you. That's just me being once again salty about all the flags I've taken in my life.
- [37:43]
Ryan Rosillo
So I like that. I think it keeps you sharp. You know, I was watching a video of a guy the other day on Instagram who was basically like, hey, here's where I'm monitoring the parking lot, and I want to see escape routes. I want to see possible threats. Why is that guy in his car a little bit longer than I'd expect? He had the full content setup. He had that nice little mic that you kind of just tuck into the shirt there a little bit. He had a cameraman. He had these jeans, obviously a pocket knife. I couldn't tell how tall he was, but it looked like there was some length in there. I'd say probably, you know, he wasn't in the best torso shape, but he was a little bit older, not necessarily overweight. But, you know, I didn't. I didn't like the full complement of the shape. And so the whole video was about safety, individual safety in public settings. And then as he was about to enter the grocery store, he was like, now my environment has changed, so now I have to recalibrate to all these different things. And I'm like, or you could just go in and buy a sandwich.
- [38:48]
Willie Colon
And.
- [38:48]
Ryan Rosillo
Mind your damn business and go home.
- [38:50]
Kyle
Right, Right.
- [38:50]
Ryan Rosillo
But. But I like that you're looking around going, is there anyone here? I have history. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's really good. I'm going to admit something right now that I know I shouldn't do. Are you ready? Okay. I know I shouldn't do this because it's just that town, that fan base and some of my history is one of the other franchises. So maybe I should say I think. I think I hate watching the Eagles play football now. What? Yeah.
- [39:24]
Willie Colon
Man. I didn't expect that. And I don't even know how you. How of all your years of covering football and the volume you cover football that you have now planted your flag that you hate the Philadelphia Eagles.
- [39:38]
Ryan Rosillo
Well, I don't hate the Eagles because there's so much talent. I mean, my guy Nicobe Deans out there. Right. You know, there's just a lot of us. Well, actually there were very few of us that. That still had the faith, but there were a lot of us that loved him on Saturdays. And so there's a lot of players that I really like. And part of this is I've seen too many Eagles games. I've probably. For a non Eagles fan, I probably watch as many as you could watch.
- [40:00]
Willie Colon
Other than I feel the same way.
- [40:03]
Ryan Rosillo
Right. And so it's not even the tush push thing, which, you know, if you get into the false start thing with Sirianni, like, he's 100% right. Like we just talked about it slow motion. Everybody looks at their false. I think when your right guard is always cracking the middle of the defensive line and it's always a false start on a tush push, that might be a little bit more of an advantage than a tackle getting out of his stance, backpedal a little bit more. I've got a bug in front of me. Those watching on YouTube. You know, it's. It's the Hertz halves where he looks like he's not an NFL quarterback. I think it's the battle between the A.J. brown stuff where I understand his frustration, but I'm like, enough is enough, man. Maybe it's because there's so many players on that team that I love and they seem so boring and yet they just win all of the time. What I'm saying isn't right. I've just had too much Eagles in my life for the last three years. How about that?
- [40:59]
Willie Colon
It's a fair assessment. I don't negate any of it because I feel like I've turned into a pseudo Eagles fan, which is weird. And I think there's people I know who support the fan base. Jalen hurts being a part of my fraternity. Today's our Founders Day, so happy Founders Day to the brothers of Omega South Fire Incorporated. To really just looking at this. Yep. Which is weird. Like looking at this team from afar, especially offensively, I don't know what they do. Well, like this year's Eagles. I don't. I don't. When people have this kind of conversation with me, like, I don't know if there's one aspect to the Eagles offensive game that I like or support or know what they do. I just. To your point, as you just stated, they beat teams who they're supposed to beat. Tampa, Chiefs, Detroit Lions, and they win. But, yeah, you.
- [41:52]
Ryan Rosillo
You're talking about, like, they beat the teams they're supposed to be, and then they're also beating all the other headliners, too. Like, this is. What I'm saying is unfair. I just, you know, I don't. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's a Hertz thing. Maybe it's like this A.J. brown thing that the fan base thinks the media is out to, like, make the whole thing up. And it's like, dude, AJ And Lurie, like, that whole report that they had to talk to each other, where the receiver had to talk to the owner of the football team and be like, hey, I promise I'm going to stop doing some of this stuff. And I love AJ there's actually, like, a lot of teams that I really like. There's guys on the offensive line that I really like. But it. Look, they win. They win every single week. No one should have to apologize for winning, no matter what the style is, because that sport. It's just so hard to sustain any kind of success. I think I've just watched too many games. I've watched too many games.
- [42:38]
Willie Colon
Well, I think this. I think yesterday's game was relevant because I thought Detroit was going into that game fighting for seating, and I felt the Eagles were going into that game looking for an identity. And the one thing that popped up the tape was the Eagles defense. And when you talk about Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis and you talk about Zack Braun and all these guys, I'm saying, okay, you know, for the last two weeks, they've really put the nails to two really, really good officers in the packers and Lions. And so you're saying, okay, the defense. The defense is right where they need to be right before Thanksgiving. You know, they're starting to, you know, shape themselves up to. To make a legit run. And then offensively, I'm like, what the hell is this? Like, you just. I just can't figure them out. And I don't know why. Is it because the offensive line is a patchwork group dealing with injuries, and they looking older or is it because, you know, Jalen hurts is at one point he looks money good and another time you're like, man, I don't know what this guy's really doing out there. I don't know. But I, I, I think the Eagles right now, you can't figure them out. I don't think they really, they have figured themselves out, but they win so that, you know, and I've always said this time after time, and I will continue to say it, winning is the ultimate deodorant. It just is. It may be a redundant statement, but when you win, you get to sweep things underneath the rug and step along and move along. And I think that's what the Eagles are doing.
- [44:01]
Ryan Rosillo
Then when you expand it out too, where you go, okay, well, in comparison to what in the NFC, they're the 1 seed today. They have the tiebreaker over the Rams.
- [44:09]
Willie Colon
Bad division too. Not to cut you off.
- [44:11]
Ryan Rosillo
No, that's all right, man.
- [44:12]
Willie Colon
I have Cowboys stink, Giants stink, Washington injury. They have injuries all over the place. So they look like, you know, they stick out like a flying and bowl of milk.
- [44:24]
Ryan Rosillo
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- [46:20]
Willie Colon
We always, we almost saw it between the, the Ravens and Browns.
- [46:24]
Ryan Rosillo
I know of all the. Like, I'm not going to spend it. Go ahead. If, if you have more on that game because that was the game where a lot of us were looking at it going, okay, the Ravens are going to come into this thing and just blast them and then remind everybody that don't count us out of this whole thing because of all the injuries we've had. What did you see?
- [46:42]
Willie Colon
Well, I, I think everybody knows the Browns are extremely tough to play in Cleveland. Defense is just, they're. They're all dogs. And Miles Garrett having four sacks is just nuts. But what I saw, if they had a. If the Browns have a. Had a competent quarterback, they win that game. The Ravens lose hands down. But I also think the Ravens are one of those scrappy, starting to get their wings a little bit. Lamar Jackson didn't play great, though. He held onto the ball. He looked out of place. But they won the game. And I don't take that loss for the Browns like, oh, just another bad Browns loss. I mean, the defense held strong. I mean, they were able to really knuckle up and put up a fight. They just didn't have anybody on the other side of the balls as far as being, you know, the Browns quarterback, to kind of produce anything, and they killed him. I thought Jerry Judy had a solid game. I really wanted Shador Sanders to kick ass. I really wanted him to be big in that moment. I really wanted him to give me something or give us something where we can hang our hat on and we got nothing. And that was probably the most disappointing part of yesterday's, I guess, menu of games. I wanted him to have his time and have that moment in the sun and he didn't have it. And that's.
- [47:55]
Ryan Rosillo
I got a thought on Shador, by the way. That game in the middle of September where The Ravens won 4,117. It was only 107 at the half. So clearly, the Browns are comfortable with Lamar the way that the Yankees were comfortable with Pedro, and the Red Sox are comfortable. Comfortable with Mo Rivera. You know, there's. There's something about getting more at bats, right, because of the division history here. And if you look at LaMar's running totals, two carries, 13 yards against Cleveland in that game, four carries, 10 yards yesterday, and under 200 yards and the two picks. So there's. There's definitely something to it. Because I felt like watching that game two months ago, I'm like, man, this is the most, like, contained I've ever seen a defense, at least recent. Maybe there's another game where Lamar wasn't very good earlier on in his career, but it was like the threat of him somehow contained because you always feel like even when we have him, we never have him. So you're right. You're right about that. Now on Shador. Go ahead.
- [48:52]
Willie Colon
I was disappointed because I felt like all the criticism that's been following him up until this point, it was the one opening where he could have put. You know, he could have really suppressed all that. And then he just didn't look prepared. Ball wasn't out on time. And as the game kind of got along and the Ravens started to mount their comeback, it seemed like the game became too big for him, and I didn't like that. I thought he was just going to be way more prepared for the moment. And listen, young kid, first start in that situation, you're trying to keep the Ravens from, you know, walking out the building with a W. It was a lot. But we ran on the field, and I'm watching the crowd go crazy. I'm like, all right, kid, this is your opportunity to shut everybody up, be the guy that we want you to be. And, you know, the first completed pass, I'm like, okay, let's go. And it was like.
- [49:40]
Ryan Rosillo
It was a complete meltdown.
- [49:41]
Willie Colon
So sucks. It's not an easy position for him. It wasn't an easy position for him to be in, but I just. I wanted him to be better, and he just wasn't. So that was probably disappointing.
- [49:52]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, disappointing. How do I want to say this? Because the Shador army, I enjoy watching them have a bad time. Has nothing to do with Shador.
- [50:07]
Willie Colon
It's the people that support.
- [50:08]
Ryan Rosillo
No. Yeah, because they're. They're out of their mind. So it's a very weird dynamic where, like, he gets in the game, and I'm like, okay, like, you wasn't pumped.
- [50:24]
Willie Colon
I was pumped.
- [50:25]
Ryan Rosillo
I was pumped. And I'm also like, look, I'm a little like, I want my guy, Tommy Reese to do well, the oc. Like, I want. I want it to go. I want a Shador to play well. You know, I. But I'll admit, yeah, it. I'm being completely honest today, after solitary confinement for a weekend, I seeing, seeing arguments made online about, like, why it was good. And you're like, you know, and then there was one about it was not good.
- [50:56]
Willie Colon
For anybody arguing that, it's like, that's, that's dumb.
- [50:59]
Ryan Rosillo
Here's, here's what I think it is, is the people that think that it's this grand conspiracy between Stefanski and the Browns and the staff and the O lines in on it. It's like, we want to humiliate this kid because of the way he handles himself. Like, it's just, hey, guess what, folks? Like, none of that's true. It's just wrong. Now, it's also a really big ask. Hey, come in. Right away, this Ravens team that's, you know, kind of got their dudes back and they're ready to go. What about the first team rep thing? Doesn't it make sense that all the reps would always go to Dylan Gabriel, first of all, as they're trying to develop him? Like, what's, what's that split realistically, when you think about, like, was Ben Roethlisberger giving up a ton of first team reps when you were playing with him?
- [51:42]
Willie Colon
No, but it was. So with that, sure, the first team, your, your first team quarterback gets the most the chunk of the reps, but they're usually a good 10 to five plays within that a daily practice where your second string guy gets reps with the first team. You know what I mean? So we'll take, you know, if we, if we're talking about the last 10 minutes of practice, you know, they'll tap. They would tap in on the shoulder block, Charlie or, or if not Charlie Batch, Byron left, which like, all right, you know, let's, let's give you four or five plays in case if you go out there, you know what you're seeing, you know what you're looking at and you know who's with you. Just so you can kind of get in sync and rhythm, especially with the line and we can hear his cadence. So there's little things to it that all have to, have to fall in place just in case your number two is in there to say, you know, to say that Shador got none of that when he's clearly your Number two going into the game, there's some malpractice there. Like, you got.
- [52:37]
Ryan Rosillo
Oh, wait a minute. Yeah, it sounds like we have a Shador army member.
- [52:42]
Willie Colon
There has to be like, am I wrong? Like, Ryan, if you're a head coach and you know there's a chance in today's NFL your number two is going to get in the game and you don't give him a crumb on what the game plan looks like or for that office line and those people around them to have a sniff and kind of like, all right, this is what possibly could happen. Even if you don't expect them to play. You know, there has to be some. You know, you got, like, all right, well, I didn't prepare the kid. Like, you have to own that if you're the head coach. I just. That's just where I'm at with it. You know what I mean? Like, I've seen our number twos in my time. Steelers or jets get some time with the ones. Even if it's just two or three plays, four or five plays, it's just being prepared just in case. That's just where I'm at.
- [53:25]
Ryan Rosillo
I can't argue this with you because you took first team reps and I did not. So there's nothing I could tell you. Hey, I heard a story about how Peyton Manning would never give up any of the reps, you know, Oh, I remember hearing the story about Brady and they were like, could you make sure that you worked with these guys? And he was like, no, I have to get better. I am a psycho. I have to get better every single week. And then, of course, if there's the threat of the guy behind you, then the guy in first teams, like, I never want you to touch the fucking football with the rest of these guys. But to your point. But who does.
- [53:55]
Willie Colon
Who does that help? Does it help the team if your number two isn't ready? Like, if you're a confident number one and you know your job and you know what you have to do, two or three plays out of a two or three hour practice shouldn't make you feel less or more about anything. It just means, like, listen, if I go down like, Mason Rudolph jumped in there when Aaron Rodgers got hurt, right? Mason did a great job because I'm pretty sure Mike T was like, all right, I know who Aaron Rodgers is. I know what he's capable of. But there may be a chance week 11, when, you know, from week 10 to 15, guys are scrambling just to fill rosters and get guys onto Field, because the injury is a multitude of things. I gotta have my backup probably more prepared now than what he would be week five or six or seven. You know what I'm saying? Like, there has to be a little sense of urgency with that.
- [54:44]
Ryan Rosillo
I hear everything you're saying, and I can't disagree with any of it. Like, you're. You're right. Like, what's. What's the problem with doing. So you actually think that it is that screwed up that he couldn't get anything just to get the timing, to get the offensive lineman to hear him, all that kind of stuff. Like, you think it's point. Like, you almost feel like your position is you. You're going out of your way to prevent something that'd be really simple to work in there. That would be beneficial.
- [55:11]
Willie Colon
Yeah. I think it helps, all parties included, if you. If you feel like there's a chance you're. No, we're not talking about Shadora as the number three. Like, the number three just doesn't play. Whatever. Like, he's. He's taking scouting reps. That's fine. But your number two, you have to prepare in some regard. And I understand what Dylan, the kid Gabriel means to you. I understand all that. But if there's a chance of him being number two. I know from an office line standpoint, Charlie's cadence compared to Ben's cadence, two different things just. They're just different.
- [55:41]
Ryan Rosillo
Can you do them? Can you do Ben's and then Charlie's?
- [55:44]
Willie Colon
I can't even remember, but I know. But I know one thing about Charlie's. Charlie's was more. It was quicker. It was like, more like. Like, it was like. It was like that. Ben had a little more. He's like, Not a slower pace, but a little more rhythm to his. So if you're not. If you're. If you're not hearing that or if you're not having those nuances with your first team line, like, those things matter, especially if you expect this kid to win you a game. Right? That's what number twos do. You're expecting them to win you a game or two or three. So there's a lot of things that have to go into that, and if you don't prepare them, then it's like, all right, yeah, it's kind of on me, you know, as a coach, I got to prepare. I got to give the kids something, because not everybody's a visual learner. Sitting down in a room, going through, you know, whatever chalkboard talk you're doing or watching Film, that's fine. But being out there feeling it and seeing things, little nuances, you know, guys giving you data, you giving guys data, you know, it's just little things matter, like that. And if you don't have that, you're like, hey, kid, here's the ball. Go give him hell. You're like, all right. By the way, it's week 11. Haven't played since August. Thanks, coach.
- [56:54]
Ryan Rosillo
So I'll keep my eye on you.
- [56:58]
Willie Colon
I'm just saying I wanted the time. I wanted to do a time, and I didn't get it. And I was like, damn, kid, I wanted you to have that moment. But when you hear some of the arguments, I'm like, as a ball player, I'm like, eh, I kind of get it. I kind of get it a little bit.
- [57:13]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, there was a lot of stuff flying around. But I think ultimately, I also think.
- [57:17]
Willie Colon
To your point, I don't think it's a conspiracy. Like, I don't. I'm not into that whole tinfoil hat, like, oh, the. The organization wants to just stick him in a basement and lock them up and never be seen again type thing. I don't believe none of that nonsense.
- [57:28]
Ryan Rosillo
Right? Like, the one powerful voice say, we're taking him. And then all the other people running week to week options are like, we shouldn't have taken him. I don't know. I don't know the answers to any of that stuff. I just. There. It was a really tough spot. It was a tough. So anybody that's like, hey, he actually sucks, and this is why he went late and all this stuff, because he came into a game in relief and didn't play well, that would be completely unfair to him. So I think we'll leave it at that. And hopefully he's. He's better prepared by everybody around him. I'm telling you right now. You give me ideas here, though. I'm thinking about doing an entire episode on cadence. So I love.
- [58:06]
Willie Colon
I. So I've always. I've always had a thing about cadence. Oddly enough, I think it's one of the most biggest things in football to the synergy and rhythm of an offense. I've always been big on it. Every quarterback has a different cadence. Every cadence. I think from an offensive line to quarterback standpoint is. I think so. Like, I always felt like you got to be able to know your quarter. You got to be able to know your quarterback's voice in a storm, because when you're. As an offensive line, I'm sitting here looking at safeties. I'M looking at. I'm listening to my right guard. I'm over here looking at my alignment. Me. And this guy's going back and forth. I'm motherfucking him. He's motherfucking me. I got eight voices in my head. The one voice that needs to matter is my quarterbacks. You get what I'm saying? So I always felt like, when you see. When you have these starting quarterbacks, backups, even their third strings, like, you have to be able to recognize everybody's voice. Because as an office lineman, we're hearing. Like I said, I got to listen. If I'm playing. If I'm playing right tackle, I got to be able to hear my center. I got to be able to hear my right guard. I also got to be. If I got a tight end next to me, me and him got calls I got to be able to listen to. I also got to recognize what's in front of me. I also got to listen to. I. I just. I gotta. I'm. I'm listening to the lot. But if I don't recognize my own quarterback's voice when he's huffing and puffing, he maybe had a scramble. He's getting. He's getting under center or he's a shotgun. He may have alerts at the line. He has checks. I gotta know his voice. I gotta know his voice through everything I'm hearing right now. And that's why it goes back to the Shador comment. Those guys have to know Shador's voice. They got to know his nuances. Because sometimes a quarterback be like, all right, on the ball, on the ball, on the ball. Let's go, let's go, go. He'll go through his thing, said, hut. Hold it, hold it, hold it. Like, there's little things I just gotta. I just gotta know. I just gotta know as a player, I gotta know as an offensive line, because those are all entails to like, all right, this guy's in the. I got. I got Ben in the game.
- [59:56]
Ryan Rosillo
This is.
- [59:57]
Willie Colon
This is how I know he does things. All right? I got Byron in the game, okay? He may wanna get to the line, be a little quicker. He may be. Want to be a little more delayed. That all goes into with rhythm and synergy. And sometimes if you don't have that, if you don't have those reps. This is why reps are so important. This is why I always took practice. Really important, because I know how emotional I played, and I knew how fiery I was. Those things I had to work out, especially when you're on the road. That's why when it goes into dejuan Taylor situation in Denver, hostile territory, you gotta have a game. I don't blame the big fellow for being a little ornery at the line because there's a lot that goes into the game. It shows you want to be a calm mind in the storm, but there's still things that have to work for you to be. Survive out there. And on the road is tough, especially with cadence, man, because, you know, silent count, you know, watching the center's head go up and down, you know, sometimes. Sometimes we would say, even on the road, even when it was loud, Ben was like, we're not going silent count. Hear my voice, know my voice. Like, we. And we would stay okay. But I had to know that, right? Like, I had to. I can. I had to hear that. So cadence is a whole nother dog, man. I think it's. It could be a sports science thing, but I always. I always tried my best because I was a guy who did go offsides and who would lose track or just be, you know, me and a guy going back and forth, so. But I knew if I heard Ben's voice, it was always kind of a reset of focus for me. And that's why I always. I always tried to hear all my quarterbacks cadence.
- [61:27]
Ryan Rosillo
That was awesome. I enjoyed that. Hey, I want to end on a different note here, and I. I know you lost a teammate and a friend in Nick Mangold, and it seems like it's one of those guys, man. Like, people can like, hey, this is my guy, or whatever, but people really seem to love Nick, and I'm just going to kind of give you the floor here, and I wanted you to talk about your teammate and friend.
- [61:53]
Willie Colon
No, I appreciate that. Nick was important to me. You know, when I got to the jets in 2013, I didn't know what to expect. All I heard was the locker room was depleted because guys like Jason Taylor and Bart Scott and all these guys had left. And there was a need, especially from my conversation, having me having conversations with Rex Ryan. There was a need of, like, all right, we don't need more leaders on the team, right? We're going to need guys to kind of be more for what we're trying to do here. Because at the time when I got to the jets, we were the second youngest team in the league. That was Geno Smith's rookie year. And so we had a lot of talented young guys, but we didn't necessarily. Didn't have locker room leaders. And when I got there, you know, Nick was the first one who was like, hey, man. I mean, I remember being a weight room. He walked right up to me. He's like, hey, man, my name is Nick Mango. Obviously, I know who the hell he was. Walked right up to me, was like, hey, man. You know, at the time, Alifanica had left the locker room, too. Alan Fanuc was considered like, my og. Me and his. Allen's locker was here, and my locker was right next to him. And I wanted to be Alan fan. I wanted his validation, I wanted his resume. Like, he was just. He was everything to me. And so when Allen was with the jets and left, you know, Allen had told him, like, hey, man, you got Willie coming. He comes from my tribe. You know, he's a good ballplayer. You're going to love him. Da, da da, da, da. Onward, forward. Nick allowed me to step into that room and just really have a voice and allowed me to be me. And I also think he wasn't afraid. You know, I think sometimes, maybe in a multitude of ways and different job settings, when there's another Alpha in the room and you're an Alpha, there's this need to, like, all right, let's Alpha each other. That wasn't it. Because he understood the bigger picture. He's like, I need you, dog. Like, we gotta do this thing together. And he was just an amazing human being. Loved being a dad. I wasn't a father when I was suiting up, and he made me excited about possibly being a father now that I am a dad and how Nick handled his family and his children. I kind of go by Nick's playbook, like, you know, when it's time for the children, it's time for family, it's time for children and the family. Nothing else matters. He dedicated his life to his family, and he wore the green and white with pride, and he battled through a lot of injuries, and I sure did. And when I wasn't at my best, he had my back, and that's what meant the world. There's times when I was going on that field, when I was rolling onto that field in one leg, and he knew I was banged up, he knew I was struggling, and he was just like, I got you. Go, go, go. Okay. Like, I got you.
- [64:22]
Ryan Rosillo
He would do.
- [64:22]
Willie Colon
He would do extra things out there to protect me, man, and just means the world to me. And he had in, you know, charity work, anything I had going on in community, he was there. He was there. And our brotherhood and my love for him yeah, just. It's tough to lose still. It still doesn't seem real, honestly.
- [64:43]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, well, you know, knowing you and I know how you are and I got to meet him once and it was, it was cool. It was a very, you know, quick setting or whatever, but it was, you know, he was, he was almost shy in a way in the beginning.
- [64:59]
Willie Colon
He is a shy guy, which is funny, bigger than life personality, but he, he can't clam up on you, which is weird. That's who he is.
- [65:07]
Ryan Rosillo
But, but knowing you and I don't pretend obviously to, to have known Nick at all, but I just, I knew how much he meant to you and I saw some of your posts and thoughts. So I wanted you to share it with, with, with me in the audience. So thanks, man. Appreciate it.
- [65:21]
Willie Colon
No, thank you.
- [65:22]
Ryan Rosillo
I appreciate that. Appreciate it. We'll talk to you again soon.
- [65:24]
Willie Colon
Willie, always a pleasure. I always have fun, man. Thank you, brother. When cool creamy ranch meets tangy bold buffalo, the whole is greater than the.
- [65:35]
Ryan Rosillo
Sum of its sauce.
- [65:37]
Willie Colon
Say howdy, partner.
- [65:38]
Ryan Rosillo
To new buffalo ranch sauce only at McDonald's for a limited time at participating McDonald's. Here are my college football top 12. Let's play some football. All right, Ohio State, number one. Some numbers here where I'm looking at Julian saying he's 49th in attempts in college football. What you'd expect as they beat Everybody. But he's 15th in yards, fourth in touchdowns. Mendoza is number one, by the way. He has one pick in his last seven games. He's number one in rating in all of college football. He's number one in completion percentage. He's at like 80% now. Technically he's over 80. I think he's the best quarterback in college football. Kind of dawned on me watching that UCLA game. Why are you watching the UCLA game? Because I actually like watching saying that much. And you can sit there and say, hey, he's got Tate, he's got Smith. Smith might be the number one overall pick. Tate's going to be what a first round pick? Tate didn't play. Smith played 22 snaps in this game. There's just throws, there's just throws. Was saying that I'm starting to appreciate more and more every single week. There's a third and four absolute dot to Inis where he's got like one little spot away from the defenders draped all over Innis, which would be on his right side. And it's just goes over reach his hands left side. It's like there's one spot he could have thrown the Ball. He hits it. There's a third and long that they actually did not convert into a first down. He's getting pressure from his right side, sans whole body is going left. The route runner is kind of like cutting up the right sideline. Sand somehow leads him to his hands over the defender in stride. And it's the only possible, like, completion that existed on the field. And it was super challenging and it still almost gave him a chance at a first down. And he hit that ball. I, I think he's terrific. Look, this isn't breaking news here, but when you think back to the beginning of the season of like, the limitations that we saw from him in his first game against Texas, you could also get into like, where saying is versus where Arch is in their freshman year. Like, look, it's not even close. I don't love the default, hey, who's the best team? Give it to the quarterback. But I actually don't think that's the case now. Even though the, the opponents are not all that tough. We'll get into some of that a little bit later, but I just think he's that special. And now with Smith, we'll see where his stats are and see what they want to do with him and how much they're going to play him before the Michigan game. So Smith's stats are going to take a hit. So even if I think Smith is the best player, and I was saying last week, that'd be my Heisman bow, like TBD on that one. Let's see where he's at. But I'm just kind of the point where I don't know if there's another quarterback that I enjoy watching as much as saying, all right, number two, Indiana scoring margin, number one in college football. There's nothing that I haven't said already that we don't already know about them. All right, let's get a little weird here. Number three, Georgia Bulldogs. What? Ryan, they're not undefeated. Yeah, look, I think when it's one loss, even if a team's undefeated and the one loss is that Bama loss at home, where, you know, I'm okay with it. If you look at their best four games that they're 3 and 1 against, it's Tennessee, Bama, Ole Miss and Texas. Compare that with A and M. Four best SEC wins, LSU, Missouri with the quarterback making his first start. Third and fourth best wins, Florida, South Carolina. I mean, South Carolina's 15th in the SEC, but obviously, as we saw on Saturday, like, Carolina's capable of being really tough. I Mean they've had some really frustrating losses for them. So you know, A and M's played six of the bottom seven SEC teams. This feels like I'm penalizing them more for being down 30 to 3 to South Carolina at home than I am reward rewarding them for an all time historic comeback. The only team that's won down that deficit in the SEC, I think the number was like no one had done it since 2004. So yeah, look I, I don't think I'm punishing the team. I would say the Marcel Reed being third in the Heisman odds is fucking ridiculous. But let's see how an A and M looks against Texas and let's see how Georgia looks against Georgia Tech. So this thing could change around here. But I think that's Gunner Stockton's best game. Even if one of the touchdowns is definitely a bus defensively, the other to Delp. Is everybody sold out against him on the run but he also sold the run really well. So those were wide open throws. But the D line, the linebackers I think played a complete game against Texas. Now is that Texas so line and their issues that they thought were fixed because they shuffled things around against Vandy or is it like hey it's also Georgia and not Vandy. Like we'll see. But resume wise, you know and I know that you, if you're an A and M fan you're going to be like and we went to Notre Dame and won that game and Georgia doesn't have that big non conference game until the end of the year and you're going to ding us for it. Yeah, I just think Georgia's the better football team and I'm okay with the one loss differential. You start to get to two, then it, then it comes up a little tougher to even suggest some of this stuff. So A and M must be four, right? No, I'm going to go with Oregon. Oregon's best win resume wise does not match up. Is Iowa a good win? Does Iowa have a good win? Don't look. But their four losses Iowa to ranked teams are combined 15 points. So like look I was a good football team but they don't have necessarily the resume win here. So A and M, C above I have A and M. Number five. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just a little down on, on them despite the record. I know it doesn't make any sense. Number six, Notre Dame. The best record in independent football. You know who's second? Yukon. Technically stores but Hartford has it. Number seven, Texas Tech. Right There with Indiana margin of victory number eight, old Miss. I vehemently disagree with them being number five in the country. They're number five in the apartment. Is the Oklahoma win better than Texas Tech's win against Utah? Tech smashed them. They smashed byu. The LSU win when Ole Miss had it. So I don't know how this will play out when we start arguing about this stuff, but it's like, hey, LSU is fourth in the country but we all know what happened there. But look, it's the close games against Kentucky, Arkansas, Washington State and then Florida again. So it feels like a very record standings reaction to this stuff because I, I don't know, I need like if I'm starting to think about you as being four or number five and certainly just A and M fans. So you hear me clearly like I like A and M a hundred times better than I like Ole Miss at this point. And this is kind of like a common theme with me. The SEC is the best conference, but I really, I'm not in love with any of their top contenders. But I'm going to explain some more of that a little bit later as I close up here. So that leaves us at number nine, Oklahoma, four and one against ranked teams. Auburn was ranked when they played them. The Texas loss. Texas actually wasn't ranked at that point. So you could throw them back on at the end of the year. Does that replace the Auburn game even though that's a win versus a loss? They beat Bama at Bama. Not easy to do. Bama also gave that game away. Three turnovers, the pick six, the fumble that led to a 31 yard touchdown drive later on a field goal, the missed field goals. Who their field goal kicker no one on social media likes right now. Although his approval rating is still somewhat higher than the police officer in the A and M game, which I just am always forever entertained by. Any time there's an incident where it feels like everyone is on the same page be like, what is that cop doing? I mean I get that he probably loves A and M, but you know, come on man. I guess he was relieved of his duties at least for that game. At least that's what was said publicly. So back to Oklahoma here. So yeah, look, they won the defense. Kip Lewis, he plays D like he's offended that you're even out there with him. So there's a lot about this team that I like, but the material storyline is completely being overplayed because he's winning these games. They're like, all right, Mater, you know, he Looked a little shaky against Texas coming back with that hand injury. He's totally fine. He's not fine. In the two wins in these last couple of weeks, we. We've talked about him because the broadcast kind of gets into it too. It's like, all right, here we go. The material, he's throwing it for 1:59 and 1:38. He hasn't thrown a touchdown in these games. They were 3 of 13 on third down against Bama. And if you don't believe me, look at the play calling now. You could get me on score and situation. They're down a point. It's third and goal at the six. They know they have the field goal to take the lead, especially on the road here. But in third and six, they didn't even want to give material the option to throw. He tried to run it in, didn't work out. They kicked the field goal. So if you want to argue, hey, they didn't want him to throw because they want to kick the field goal. I would just think like the version of material that we saw at the beginning of the year. They're giving that guy a look to throw on that. And whenever I see that kind of play call come in, it's like, well, what is. What does that tell you? And the numbers back it up. But they're winning these games and they're winning games with a lot of extra help. Whether it's their defense making plays, the fumble recovery, touchdown game play against Tennessee. People are still confused at actually what happened there from that defensive end who was out of this game, by the way. So Oklahoma, really nice resume navigating this brutal stretch of the schedule. But I have them 9. I'll have Bama. 10. This starts to get back to all the. The SEC stuff here where I'm going to present this. Now, am I dinging the SEC teams for not looking as good at the. As these. These top Big ten teams. And I'm talking more about Ohio State and Indiana, not necessarily Oregon, where of course Indiana and Ohio State would look really good against the people they're going up against during these stretches. Like, think about this. Oklahoma has played Texas, Mississippi, Bama. Excuse me, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee and Bama. Those are four games in five weeks. Bama, on the other side of things, played Georgia, Vandy, Missouri, Tennessee, South Carolina, LSU, Oklahoma. In 50 days, Ohio State has a stretch where they're going through Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, UCLA and Rutgers. Indiana, Miss Michigan State, ucla, Maryland. That's at Maryland, Penn State and then Wisconsin. So this is where the conference differential like comes in and I'm actually admitting I'm probably guilty of dinging the SEC teams here going, look, say that out loud again. Like of course Ohio State and Indiana would look dominant again against these teams. And look, I know the Indiana Penn State game and the Penn State record. I thought Penn State was a really tough out that day, but there's not really much of a comparison when you say that stretch out loud of what these teams are doing. But look, Bama can't run the football. Simpson had a tough day. Mattier does not seem to be the exact same guy. Ole Miss screws around every single week. A I should probably have higher sorry. And maybe now George is everyone's darlings because Gunner looked like he had a full complete game and the defense started the game the way they've ended a lot of their games. Number 11 Vandy and number 12 the Miami Hurricanes. I'm not going back to college to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber One for students. It saves you on Uber and UberEats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 10% off smoothies.
- [77:43]
Kyle
And 6% Uber credits back on rides. Just to be clear, I'm there for.
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Ryan Rosillo
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Willie Colon
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Ryan Rosillo
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Willie Colon
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- [78:03]
Ryan Rosillo
You want details? Buy I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up?
- [78:10]
Willie Colon
I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine and best of all kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.
- [78:22]
Ryan Rosillo
Lifeadvice rrmail.com that is the email address. Kyle and Steve are with us. Before we get too deep into it, we got a couple feedback ones that we'll get to but also Spirit award. I'm going to give it to myself this weekend. Friday night sit down, lock into the NBA slate. Luckily was able to get a couple of games up on the Amazon prime feed. Still not always 100% sure in the navigation of where I'm supposed to be with everything. But that's okay. We're getting better. Every week we're trying. And then in the middle of a phone call, a phone call drops. I notice my remote doesn't work, my lights start acting weird, the control panels in my house on all three floors Start going out. All the remotes start blinking on and off. And then I realized I have no wifi. I have no. I have no television. My phone is all messed up. So I was able to watch all the NBA because fortunately it stayed locked on those channels. Cause my TV would not turn off. I physically could not turn it off unless I unplugged it because the remote wouldn't control anything. And then I couldn't watch anything on laptops. So on Saturday morning I had to check into a hotel, which was actually ironically, the Rams team hotel, which means they win. Because when I move to a city, that city wins championships. Maybe I'll put together the full timeline of since when I moved back to Boston, what kind of heater I'm on. I mean, it's just happening in LA now too. So it just keeps happening. So wherever I go, that city wins on the side. But I sat in a hotel room for 20 hours this weekend, obviously by myself with laptops on the bed on other games and then the main feed on the tv because they gave me a room that didn't have a desk really to watch. And I didn't even sleep there because then I would just drive home. The hotel's like seven minutes from my house. And I would just drive back to my house and then sleep and get up, go to the gym and then walk back into the hotel valet mobile office. Yeah, it was nice. I mean, I don't think I'd set up my office like a hotel room because like, there's something to be said of going, you're just going to sit in bed. Because it was the most comfortable and it was the best, it was the most optimal setup. But I hate it. I've done it a lot of times. I. What I did is I lived like a family man's dream. But what it is for me is just a lesser version of what my life is on football weekends, like it's the same life. And then I would come home, cook dinner, and then I would go to bed, but none of the TVs work or, you know, I'd have to watch like something that was downloaded from.
- [80:53]
Kyle
I thought the story was going to be. You had to like run out to Tony P's, which I know is not there anymore. But like, like, I thought you were like, man, I'm just going to have to do it like the old days for like a notebooks. Just get a corner table at some stick and be like, I'm just going to, yeah, see if they got a chicken breast thing and I'm just going to be here for a day. But, yeah, this makes more sense. I really thought you were going to tell me you, like, ran out to Shellbox, even though they might have, like.
- [81:15]
Ryan Rosillo
One TV in there. I see your. Like, there's no more lazy version of myself than when I'm at a hotel room. Like, because I just, like, you just, like, lay in bed. Like, you watch, like, Netflix on your bed. Like, you don't really move.
- [81:28]
Kyle
Crank that bitch down to 62 degrees. Get under the COVID The least productive.
- [81:32]
Ryan Rosillo
Disgusting version of myself. So the fact that you were just grinding for a weekend, is your favorite podcaster doing that? Probably not. What's up? I know I got really depressed last night, too, and there was no reason to be. It was. It was fun because I was like, hey, snap out of it. This isn't that big of a deal. You're not even gonna think about this in two days? The show is the most important thing. Get the work done and, you know, prep it out. Prep it out tonight, and then it's tomorrow morning. But it's just, you know, it's been raining here for days, so there was. It was just this thing where I'm sitting in the room and I'm on, like, hour eight or nine and I'm going, this sucks. Like, this wasn't my favorite weekend, but it was really the only way of doing it. I couldn't go to someone's house while they're watching stuff. I couldn't go to a bar. I mean, forget it. That's just not gonna happen. Yeah, no pad at a beer. Not the worst. Sitting there. Week 11. How about that Chiefs comeback?
- [82:30]
Willie Colon
Just.
- [82:32]
Ryan Rosillo
Like, wait.
- [82:33]
Kyle
Somebody check the odds on the chief Super Bowl. Somebody.
- [82:40]
Ryan Rosillo
Like, I think. I think Bama. That's. That's. That's quite. I mean, pulling that one out at home with the way materials Plan just lost.
- [82:51]
Kyle
Arguing with UCLA fans.
- [82:53]
Ryan Rosillo
That'd be great. UCLA fans don't argue with you. Yeah, I guess they don't. They don't worry about it. Okay. Thank you for calling out Hobo Johnson. I'm all for people living out their dreams, but that dude, Hobo Johnson is straight hot garbage. He ain't hip hop. He's not spoken word. He's a misguided soul that should be making craft pizza. His song to Marcus Cousins is the worst song ever made. He's from Sacramento, but doesn't represent Sacramento, except if he played for the Kings. That was harsh. Yeah. I'm gonna be honest. Kyle sent me that afterwards, and I'd Never seen that guy in my life. And it was one of the worst things I've ever watched.
- [83:30]
Kyle
Oh, that's nice. Because you were pretty, like, democratic about it or whatever. The word. Like the word for being nice is you were just like.
- [83:35]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [83:36]
Kyle
Kind of got like a whatever vibe. It was like, no, man, this was terrible.
- [83:40]
Ryan Rosillo
But anyway, yeah, tough look. That's pretty bad.
- [83:45]
Kyle
Well, I'm glad we're all on the same page.
- [83:47]
Ryan Rosillo
Is that the worst insult you could ever hurl at someone? You don't even represent the spoken word community.
- [83:55]
Kyle
I'm sure we can get a couple written.
- [83:56]
Ryan Rosillo
I think I said big poetry energy. That's what I said.
- [83:59]
Kyle
Oh, that's what it was. That's it.
- [84:00]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Which is. I feel like definitely not a good. Definitely an insult.
- [84:05]
Kyle
For the record, outside of a college campus, definitely an insult.
- [84:09]
Ryan Rosillo
Fair side note, just going through our group chat from the weekend. Kyle was just firing off parlays. Dude.
- [84:14]
Kyle
I had so many bonus bets.
- [84:16]
Ryan Rosillo
He's in New York and he's just like, wait, this is awesome.
- [84:18]
Kyle
I had so many bets.
- [84:20]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Did you win that old miss bet?
- [84:22]
Kyle
No. Big loser this weekend.
- [84:24]
Ryan Rosillo
They didn't get to the points. Yeah, 73 and a half. It was high. I didn't want to say that in the text, but I would say this.
- [84:31]
Kyle
About everyone at the bar thought we were going to get there.
- [84:33]
Ryan Rosillo
That's all a shocker. Yeah. Do you respect Hobo Johnson for even trying? For being like, no, this is what I'm putting together and I'm going to start doing shows. You kind of have to respect that when you.
- [84:47]
Kyle
When you see him at the tiny desk thing, I mean, you're like, it's different than just like doing local shows. Like, he's. It's gotten him this far. Although I don't know what the threshold is for tiny desk. Maybe we don't. We only see the. The bigger ones. But the veteran.
- [85:00]
Ryan Rosillo
I watch a ton of tiny desks, but he. He screwed up in the middle of it and restarted. Well, it sounds like somebody watched more than one song.
- [85:08]
Kyle
It was pretty early on.
- [85:09]
Ryan Rosillo
I'm just saying.
- [85:11]
Kyle
Could you even tell if it was a screw up? I mean, that's the thing.
- [85:13]
Willie Colon
Yeah. No, literally, you restart.
- [85:15]
Ryan Rosillo
He was like, wait, do people do this? And I was like, are you kidding me right now? Oh, okay. Who knows? When I watch Freddie Gibbs. Tiny desk. Shut up. Check, check. He was like, I don't even have my flow yet. But I think that was him being like, kind of the man. Yeah, something. Don't quote Me directly on that. All right. Tortured by siblings about an incident from childhood. 5 10, 190 left handed. Thank you prime jazz. Joe Ingles of my men's league. How about a little jingle juice? Miss him. 37, happily married, 2 year old son, another on the way. I think I'm relatively normal regular person. My family and I will be heading to my parents house for Thanksgiving. We'll also see my three older siblings. I love seeing my parents and have two nephews that I love seeing my son get along with. We generally all get along together or all only. We generally only all get together for Thanksgiving or weddings at this point.
- [86:13]
Kyle
Put me in a blender there.
- [86:14]
Ryan Rosillo
Holy shit. Yeah. Far far. I mean he actually wrote it, right? It just was. Yeah, there was stuff in there. I dread Thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah. Hey look, you know, just nice to be in a house. I dread Thanksgivings because without fail, every single year my asshole older brothers and sibs sister absolutely turn torture me when they bring up an incident from when we were growing up. There will be a few small jokes early before full on calling me out about it. I've tried explaining how much it bothers me. I know I turned be red. I've gone completely silent the rest of the night. I've screamed at them or just instantly left before.
- [86:49]
Kyle
These are all different years. Oh man.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [86:52]
Kyle
They probably can't wait to pull this out. See what you got cooking up for this year.
- [86:55]
Ryan Rosillo
They only bring it up because they know it bothers me. Yeah, how do you think they can tell it bothers you? Anytime I even think about the situation, it literally makes my skin crawl. It's a weird situation where it's not that big of a deal. They would tease me as a teenager, which is normalish I guess, but the fact they continue to do it to me as a grown man drives me insane and I'm upset that I let it get to me at this level. They don't think it's that serious of an incident. So it's okay to tease me about. I told my wife I wasn't going anymore. She doesn't have much of a family on her side and it's super important to her to spend time as an entire family. She said it's not that big of a deal and she would just go without me. I had never brought a girl home for Thanksgiving until my wife because of this. Wait. I'd never brought a girl home for Thanksgiving until my wife because of this.
- [87:41]
Kyle
Because of the taunts.
- [87:42]
Ryan Rosillo
Man. Yes. I need this to stop. It mortifies me to think of my kids hearing this story one day when I tried stopping this as a teenager, only made it even a bigger deal. Do I fight them? Parentheses brothers would kick my ass. Well, that doesn't seem like a good option. I wish I knew what this was. Do I bring a weapon? Feels nothing. Feels aggressive for a family holiday, but. Who brought the stuffing? I brought a hatchet. Those throwing stars.
- [88:16]
Kyle
That's like a little. It's a. Like a bow staff. Something that's like. Does a blunted. Blunted object.
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Ryan Rosillo
Nonchalant. Let's not. What else.
- [88:22]
Kyle
What are the other.
- [88:23]
Ryan Rosillo
There was nothing cooler than a throwing star when you were a kid. Nothing. Yeah, sure. How many throwing stars do you have currently?
- [88:32]
Kyle
Well, I'm still unboxing stuff. I don't think I have any. I do think I have some knives that are meant to be thrown, but again, still boxes. Still in boxes. But you best believe I was at the flea market in Stormville looking for the guy who would sell me, clearly under 18, some shirkins, throwing stars, what have you.
- [88:48]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, yeah, throwing stars. Dude, you change your whole life with those. Fourth grade, no one get a belt for this.
- [88:58]
Kyle
Do I put them in belts like it don't seem like they should be in my pocket?
- [89:01]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [89:01]
Kyle
I stress about how I'd carry them around.
- [89:04]
Ryan Rosillo
Do I tell them I'll never come back if they bring it up? My wife would go with my kids without me, and that could be worse. Or do I draw a hard line with her going. I gotta be honest. I don't know what this is yet, what the incident is.
- [89:15]
Kyle
Wish it's holding me back from what I want to say that we have the hell yeah.
- [89:20]
Ryan Rosillo
Got there yet.
- [89:21]
Kyle
He clearly doesn't want to bring it up.
- [89:22]
Ryan Rosillo
It's so well written. It might be fake, but I don't. I don't. Yeah, we got to figure it out. All right, let's keep going through. Do I just be a man and try to pretend it doesn't bother me anymore? They know it does. What would you guys do in my shoes? I think you need to rule out this idea that your wife's going to go with your kids and you're going to stay at home, even though you probably would love the break and watching a ton of football. Not in a hotel room on Thanksgiving, like, you know, but to go, hey, because of this heckle, this. This lifelong taunt, I'm no longer going to Thanksgiving. You go with the kids without me. That's a pretty weird move. Do we all agree on that?
- [90:00]
Kyle
Yeah, let's Cut that one out.
- [90:01]
Ryan Rosillo
First one gone. It's not. It's a tough sign, too, that your wife's gonna take your family side and not yours. She's like, actually, I'm good. I'm. You can stay by yourself. I'm going to hang out with your family that's heckling you at the holidays.
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Kyle
Maybe the way he's explaining this.
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Willie Colon
And maybe she.
- [90:14]
Kyle
Does she know the story? I don't know. Like, it sounds like she.
- [90:16]
Ryan Rosillo
We need to know the story.
- [90:17]
Kyle
I feel like that we need the.
- [90:18]
Ryan Rosillo
Context of the story. Like, it could be if it's something like, really they think it's not a big deal, being assholes.
- [90:25]
Kyle
Yeah, they said they think it's not a big deal, but is it, like, not a big deal for a guy who just turned 13? Not a big deal? You know what I mean? Is it something that, like, you know, in the grand scheme of things, but, like, new people hearing the story, you're like, come on, man.
- [90:39]
Ryan Rosillo
Like, there's.
- [90:39]
Kyle
There's stuff my family likes to bring up. Like this one time I was like 6 years old or 7 years old, like, opening a puzzle box, but I just stabbed it with scissors a bunch of times. And it's kind of embarrassing.
- [90:50]
Willie Colon
They.
- [90:50]
Kyle
They love anytime. Like, they hand me something to open. They're like, oh, watch out. You want a pair of scissors? Like, is it that not a big deal and it bothers him for some reason, or is it, like, a little bit gross? And maybe it happened at a time when, like, it'd be normal for a teenage boy to do something. I just. I don't know. I would need to know how. Who thinks it's not a big deal and why. I wish I could know.
- [91:13]
Ryan Rosillo
Well, I have it. I have it here, but we're doing a little. We're getting it on this real quick. It. Was it a video presentation? Okay. I don't know if what happened is relevant, but since I'm sure you'll be wondering. Yeah, it's super relevant. The most relevant. All right. Way back in the day, I was on Limewire downloading music, and I came across a video titled Steve Irwin Death Video. And I was like, holy. This is the footage of him being killed by that Stingray. So it was downloading during dinner time, and I made an announcement to my family of my discovery. We'd all been big fans of his show. So my mom, dad, brother, sister, all gathered around the family computer. And then the video ended up being three gay dudes. Okay, I knew exactly where this is going. Yep. He describes the video. I think you can figure it out.
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Kyle
This is a. This is not a big deal, dude.
- [92:16]
Willie Colon
This is not a big deal at all. Holy crap.
- [92:18]
Ryan Rosillo
It's hilarious. Oh, this is incredible, dude.
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Kyle
Just be like, when the kid comes of age, don't tell him this story or tell him a version, whatever. Like, you know, who needs to not hear this story? But it's okay. And the jokes are. The jokes.
- [92:31]
Ryan Rosillo
You, dude.
- [92:32]
Kyle
This was a hilarious chain of events that has this resulted in this story. It's not even his fault. It's not, but totally, totally. This is fine.
- [92:43]
Ryan Rosillo
I'm sorry. That's hilarious.
- [92:46]
Kyle
It's so fucking funny. And you got brothers, Older brothers. What are you nuts?
- [92:51]
Ryan Rosillo
Hey, everybody, gather round. Come watch this video. Imagine how excited you are, too, when you're that age and you're the youngest of all the siblings. So you're always trying to do stuff, improve, like, impress them. And you're like, this is going to be awesome. All right? The reason they make fun of you is because this is absolutely nothing. And honestly, dude, you need to chill the out. Like, you got to stop getting mad about this. Like, normally, when I'd said, hey, you know what? Like, hey, do I fight him? Like, I don't care how tough somebody. Nobody really likes getting punched in the face. Unless you're like 17 and don't hear your dad is. And you throw daggers at the bottom of a tree or something. You know what I mean? It's like, those guys never seem to feel any pain whatsoever, you know? So I stay away from those guys. But even if your brother could kill you, punching him in the face at a Thanksgiving because of something that you should not be bothered about, like, maybe it'd be worth it. Like, do it. And then you cross the line, whatever. Because this is. You need to get over this. You need to get over. Right. They're making fun of you because it keeps nothing brought up. Yeah, I mean, I guess it is.
- [93:51]
Willie Colon
Like, is it accusatory?
- [93:52]
Ryan Rosillo
They're not. I mean, I guess we're not there, so we don't really know. They shouldn't be laughing at you, though. The situation is just hilarious.
- [93:59]
Kyle
Well, of course they're laughing at you.
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Ryan Rosillo
Not you.
- [94:01]
Kyle
They're your bro. Well, especially they know that, you know, maybe there's a fun nickname that they've got that, you know, that's attached to this.
- [94:06]
Ryan Rosillo
Or.
- [94:07]
Kyle
Or there's just a way, like, let me show you something. Or, you know, I mean, like, look at this new video. Have you seen this one? Like, I don't know what. What it is, but, I mean, sometimes you just have to take it in, you know, whatever that language is that old, older brothers speak.
- [94:19]
Ryan Rosillo
Like, that's. They don't.
- [94:20]
Kyle
They don't hate you. They know that it gets you. So, you know, I think you've. You've done a lot of damage by showing how. How deep this cuts you. And, you know, it's like, it's kind of past the point where you can just one day be like, it doesn't bother me, and they'll believe it. You're gonna have to show them over a couple years that you're going to be okay with this, and then maybe it'll stop. But it might not ever stop. Probably because that's, you know, as we get older, nostalgia get creeps in during the holidays, and it's like the first thing anyone thinks of when everyone's together again. It's like, oh, man.
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Willie Colon
Do you.
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Ryan Rosillo
It's like, yeah, it's like when you're with your buddies and you just talk about, like, all these things that you remember 20 years ago and, like, are they funny? No, but you kind of, like, make up the story. Like, it becomes bigger than what the actual.
- [95:00]
Kyle
This is a number one seed. This is a number one seed, dude. Something else has to happen that's funnier than this. Otherwise, it's going to be right in the top of the bag when you go to grab something fun from Remember when.
- [95:11]
Ryan Rosillo
The good thing, too, for you is, like, this probably isn't going to be discussed around your kids, at least the detail, so you at least have a. I wouldn't really worry about that a ton.
- [95:20]
Kyle
You can come to an alliance around that. Like, you just got to put up with the rest of this, man.
- [95:26]
Ryan Rosillo
I think that's good. Let's get another quick one in here. Older women love the show Player comp Wemby. But five, nine, can't shoot, dribble, or dunk. Well, it doesn't sound like you're like him. Wemby's passing. That might be my new thing. Just moved to a new city right after college. Trying to meet new friends and maybe a woman, Female woman. I met a group, good group of people from work who I hang, hang out with on the weekends. However, most of these people are 25, 28, been out of college for a while now. This would be fine, but I also look like I'm 18. The girls in the group treat me like a little brother, which is way worse than getting friend zoned. How can I get past this? With them or am I cooked? I don't want to get on dating apps if I don't have to. Any advice would be appreciated. That's a tough. That's a tough range. Like you're basically like a newborn baby all over again at 22 post college. So anybody that's been out in the wild, like the real stuff, not fake college like Lego life, they're going to look at you like you're a little kid. I think what would be funny is just start going overboard with references. Be like, you know, Clark Gable was kind of. He just is a lock for me. Like who is it for you? Oh, Matt Damon. Yeah, Clark Gable's mine. Who's your favorite executive from the House of Morgan?
- [96:41]
Kyle
Do you guys still have your AOL emails?
- [96:46]
Ryan Rosillo
Has anybody even in this situation?
- [96:49]
Kyle
When I first moved, I moved to Los Angeles when I was 22 and I just immediately kind of fell in with an older crowd. And this wasn't even just like with women. It was like the dudes were just like shut up. What do you know about it? Like we were friends but they like to. I mean they were like 10 years older than me and so I deal with that to this day when I'm in group chats with them. But yeah, I've dealt with this. Certainly just seemed like there weren't a lot of 22 year olds in the places I was hanging out. Put my hand up. That was just where I chose to be.
- [97:15]
Ryan Rosillo
But attracts I could I. You definitely have like an older crowd hang. I feel like yeah, sometimes we're talking whale, you know. So tell me a guy.
- [97:24]
Kyle
Tell me about Nam dude. Like I'm here, I'm here, dude.
- [97:27]
Ryan Rosillo
What was it like?
- [97:28]
Kyle
Yeah, what was it like?
- [97:30]
Ryan Rosillo
A lot of History Channel stuff. Yeah, no, I'm. I'm usually in same age age group so I don't. It's tough. I don't know. I think of like other people college but now and you just have to.
- [97:42]
Kyle
Work on the comebacks. When you get are they looks he's getting or they're people tell. Is he saying I feel like people look at me or are they telling you things? Because then you could just work on whatever the comeback is. I'm not here to tell you what it is but practice a couple of those and then maybe they're like oh maybe this guy can hang but you just have to come come ready with some. Some zingers to when you. You get that sort of feedback from.
- [98:03]
Ryan Rosillo
People it's a really tough range because again they're Going to treat you like a kid. They can't help it. That's how they see you. You know, even if you were smart or worldly or whatever, they're just going to be like, whatever, dude, you're 22. Your priorities are different. So if you're telling us like, hey, I'd like to start dating women in this range, I don't know, I mean, this is tough. It's tough to pull off. Like, when I was in this range and there were some older women, bartenders, like late 20s, 30s, even me, Prime Rosillo, there wasn't a ton of interest. There just wasn't a ton of interest because they knew I was a fucking moron. Like, deep down, they're like, this guy's a idiot. And so you have an advantage over me with that one. Like, and they're not. If you went 40s, you went late 30s, early 40s. Well, now all of a sudden, you know, there's some science in there that would make some sense. Like, that's not even in the range. They're not old enough to look at you as like, be a try. I'm not saying it's impossible. Certainly this stuff would happen. But I think that 22 to 28 range for a guy, I mean, you got to bring us. You're going to be bringing something to the table.
- [99:18]
Kyle
What kind of shit are you wearing, too? I don't know, like, I don't know what, what that. Like, we're not talking supreme patches on your shit, right? I mean, do you own a couple sweaters? Maybe like the wool kind? I don't know. Maybe there's just something you could do.
- [99:29]
Ryan Rosillo
The wool kind?
- [99:30]
Kyle
Yeah, like, you know, not. Not like the thin car. Like a real, like maybe car. Maybe. Maybe car hurts you. I don't know, man. But just take a look at your wardrobe. Are you. Are you 22 year old, presenting to people then, you know.
- [99:42]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. You get a couple Ike Baharas in the mix. Yeah.
- [99:45]
Kyle
Do you have like a brown pair of shoes that screams old guy? Yeah, maybe.
- [99:50]
Ryan Rosillo
How are you dressing is really important. But just brown. Brown shoes and the wool kind combo. I think Kyle did you a solid. Thanks. Talking like college professors who we try to.
- [100:03]
Kyle
I don't know, like, I think brown. I think brown shoes could be like the nice sort of like shiny kind of brown shoes or those ones that are like. Do you also wear these to walk up trails? But like, you also wear them to fucking the bar? Like, I think maybe just take a look at what you got. Do you have Like a lot of, like fresh Nikes and you just look like a guy who, you know is 22.
- [100:21]
Ryan Rosillo
So wear more trail. Brown trail shoes. Yeah, just take a look and see maybe some.
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Willie Colon
Maybe, maybe some.
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Ryan Rosillo
Maybe some tweed.
- [100:27]
Kyle
Yeah, tweed, exactly. Maybe there's like one. One out. Maybe there's one outfit you can like, just test out and be like, yeah, I feel like this one adds about five, five, six years to what I got going on.
- [100:37]
Ryan Rosillo
Walking around with a Burroughs paperback, you know?
- [100:41]
Willie Colon
Yeah, dude.
- [100:44]
Ryan Rosillo
Basically just try to emulate anything that you see from the movie Rushmore. Be like, I'll. I'll start doing that next time he shows up to happy hour in his brown shoes. One of the women, L.L. bean Quarters. Something different about you. Yeah, I can't.
- [100:58]
Kyle
L. L Beans having a year end sale, dude.
- [101:00]
Ryan Rosillo
Just, you know, they always do. Yeah, listen. Yeah, yeah, no, report back. Let us know. We also teaser. We have an update on the guy with no bed. If you were tracking that story, the roommate of the guy who emailed who refused to have a bed, he sent us an update. Hell yeah. All right, Wednesday. Look forward to that one a little bit later this week. That'll do it for the show. Thanks, Kyle. Thanks to Steve. Again, Tuesday, we're gonna have our NBA quarterbacks, NBA stars, quarterbacks things. We're going to do it on the YouTube page. So subscribe to the YouTube page. Subscribe to the podcast Ryan Rosillo show, part of the Barstool Network. Sa.