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CFB Championship Weekend Preview w/ Booger McFarland, Plus Commanders LB Von Miller
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Ryan Rosillo
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The Ryan Rosillo show is presented by DraftKings. On today's show, we have two awesome interviews. We're talking book McFarland, Lane Kiff and a Bat Rouge, previewing all the conference championship games, games in college football. And just a simple question. Who do you actually like in both of the conferences in the NFL? Kind of break some of that stuff down. Vaughn Miller, one of my favorite defensive players in all my years of watching the NFL. He's with Washington. Things are winding down, but he's still ready to compete. But he wants to become a gm, so we'll ask him about that and whether or not he would have taken himself over Cam Newton when they were in the same draft going number one and number two. That and an awesome, awesome, I can't even say question of life advice. A quandary that may be unsolvable. One touchdown can change everything. The crowd, the momentum, the game itself. It never gets old. I love touchdowns. You know what's great is being in the backyard. Those touchdowns could change your life. My dad used to call me Mr. Six. That's what they're worth. Feel that same rush with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL, where every touchdown could bring you closer to cashing in. With DraftKings Sportsbook, all of the actions in your hands. First touchdown, anytime TD, live bets, every play, every snap, every game matters. Missouri listeners, listen up. DraftKings Sportsbook is now live in the Show Me state. Here's the best part. New customers bet just $5, and if your bet wins, you'll get $200 in bonus bets instantly. When your team hits the end zone, you could hit the Payout. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app and use the code Ryan R y e n. That's code Ryan r y e n. Bet five bucks and get 200 bucks back in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours.
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Booger McFarland
Well, first of all, when we fired Scott Woodard, the old athletic director and Virgil Osbery became the interim AD and then the permanent ad, he set out to find one thing and that was the best coach that he could that fit lsu. And I think when you look at the landscape, like there's really, unless Nick Saban is coming out of retirement, like there's no other coach that fits in the south like Lane Kiffin because he checks a lot of boxes. Number one, he's a hands on coach. And when you go from Brian Kelly, who would be on the fifth floor and just call down to the locker room to make sure everybody's okay, like you needed somebody that could come down and be hands on. Lane is a hands on coach. That's number one. Number two, he's an offensive genius. And so he checks all the boxes for LSU's offense was putrid last season. And now when it comes to attracting quarterbacks to go with the wide receivers that we always had down there, you check that box. And then third and most important, like he brings a swagger to him.
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Ryan Rosillo
Dude.
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Booger McFarland
Like this dude brings. I'm not going to say it's arrogance or cockiness, but it is a swagger. I'm good. I know I'm good. I can get it done. I've had it done in Oxford, at Ole Miss. I can get it done in Baton Rouge. And he comes to the Mecca. Like you talked about how you adopted lsu. I went there. There's no better place in America for a college football game than when that place is right. And for the last few years, even when Brian Kelly was winning, it wasn't right because the style of football wasn't there. It got right a little bit with Jaden Daniels, but I'm used to that place being electric defensively, offensively, the crowd loving the coach. It doesn't mean you got to win every game. But there has to be an engagement. Ed Ogeron won because. And the people loved him because he engaged with them. Les Miles engaged eating grass and all the weird stuff he did. Nick Saban was Nick Saban, and I think Brian Kelly got away from that, but they got back to that with Lane Kiffin. He fits. He is going to bring something that I think LSU fans want again, and that's a championship.
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Ryan Rosillo
Nothing to disagree with on. On that. Is there any part of it. And I'm not even getting to, like, when he was younger, because by all accounts, people that know him, and again, I don't know him at all, but I know people that know him. And it's like, this guy's gotten shit together, you know, and you saw some of that happening the last couple of years at Ole Miss, so that's a big part of this. But is there anything to, like, his pattern? You know, there's just a lot of stuff. Like, Marshall did an incredible job@espn.com just giving you this full timeline of reporting of, like, how it all started and all the twists and turns. But, like, there's part of it where, you know, he's going to the AD at Ole Miss saying, all right, you're going to talk to the leadership group, which is the group of players about, you know, Lane wanted to keep playing. There was a chance. They thought maybe if Auburn won that game, they're going to play in the SEC title game. So there was a decision that had to be made there, and then ultimately a team that's going to be in the playoff. So Lane is trying to leverage his power in Oxford to stay on and keep coaching. And again, I don't know how long LSU would have put up with that. They said, okay, it's fine if he wants to coach in the playoff. I can understand Ole Miss saying, we didn't feel like having an LSU advertisement for this entire. Because it's all it was going to be talked about. He'd already made his decision. But Lane, like, the thing that bothered me a little bit, and it may mean nothing. You know what? It's going to mean nothing. But I'm just going to say it is. He tells the ad, like, hey, you're going to talk to the leadership group about who they want to have coach this team, and you're not going to like what they want to hear. And then he goes in. It's the exact opposite. And the players are like, we don't really care. We're kind of sick of it. And we're just worried about Our position coaches where again, the defensive side of the guys stay. And then it sounds like Charlie Weiss is going to go back as far as the offense and then go to lsu. But it just always seems to be a little bit extra with him, which ultimately I know doesn't matter if they win games. But that's the part of it that I don't know. It always just drives me crazy.
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Booger McFarland
So here's what I'll say. I think Lane made a decision that he wanted to leave Oxford and go to Baton Rouge. And I think at that point, the art of negotiation took place. And at that point, it turned into nothing different than when you're negotiating with a company or a business. Like, there are things that you do to create leverage. There's things that you do to create, to get an edge. There are things that you do to try to put the ball in your court in the negotiation. So everything that happened from the moment that he said, I'm leaving until the moment that he got to Baton Rouge, I look at it and I encapsulate it as a negotiation. And so there are certain tactics that were probably used. I don't know all the details, but I've been in negotiations, you've been in contract negotiation. We all know how it goes. It's a leverage play. What do you do? What's your. What's your thing that you can leverage? And so I look at all of that in one little ball and say, negotiation. Now, the fact that he wanted to coach the team also, I think that was the right thing to do. I think LSU had already signed off and said he could go back and coach the team. The fact that Ole Miss in my mind, took it personal. And here's what I mean. It's like this, Ryan. Let's say you're living in one house and you're married to this lady in one house and you leave her to say, I'm going two houses down and I'm going to start dating your best friend. But, oh, by the way, she's got a couple of kids. I can't move in there yet. Can I still stay here? Well, the person you're staying with is going to say, hell no, get the hell out. If you want to leave, go. It's the same thing, like personal feelings became involved. I think the best thing for the kids would have been to let Lane finish coaching. It's the reason Charlie Weiss Jr. Is going back, because that's the best thing for the kids. But because Carter and I get the whole, you know, six week billboard for lsu. I get all of that. But at some point, I think the personal feelings and the emotion of you're leaving me to go to my arch rival and you still want to come hang around, I think the emotion of that got the best of everybody involved, and I think once that happened, that it was time for him to leave. I do give him a lot of credit for not holding a grudge and allowing Charlie Weiss to go back. Because Charlie Weiss is now working at lsu, Lane could have easily said, hey, you can't go. But Lane allowed Charlie Wise Jr. To go back and coach those guys. So I give Lane a lot of credit for that.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, it even said, like, hey, if you're not on the plane, you're not. So it's like, so what do I have to do? I have to fly with you, get on the plane, and now I'm allowed to go back.
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Booger McFarland
The offense, like all of those negotiation tactics. So that's why. Because if you get down to who said what, when they said, that's why I put all of that stuff, the leadership council, the negotiation, it's. It's negotiation tactics. And however him and Jimmy Sexton tried to figure out a way to get what they wanted accomplished, that's on them. The fact that once he got to LSU, he allowed Charlie Weiss Jr. To go back, I thought was admirable. I thought it was something that he didn't have to do. And I think the kids at Ole Miss, two, three months down the road, they will appreciate that. But regardless of all that, I think everybody in Baton Rouge, you know this. You probably talked to a bunch of people. They're ecstatic that Lane is the coach. There was never going to be an easy way to do it. Everybody's talking about, well, how come he didn't do it the right way? Well, you tell me, Russell, what's the right way to do what he did? Like, I've been thinking about the right, quote, unquote, right way. I haven't found the right way yet.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, that's the thing that's really hard to debate, because I think on the negotiation thing, just in the bigger picture, even though all our things are different, and it is a little different when you have millions of fans relying on you. You know, when you have one of these jobs, you have the responsibility of an entire community, you know, which is way beyond anything most of us are ever dealing with, with any of our decisions. But I think the similarities are. Eventually, you just get the point where, like, hey, this is your best offer. This is your best Option, this is how we're going to work this. Like, it's all on the table. And it felt like all of that was pretty much understood because LSU was going to pay him whatever it took to bring him in. It sounds like Ole Miss would have matched and made him the highest paid coach. And then it just kept going, going on and on and on again. So, look, the right way to do it in this business, in college football, I don't know what the right way to do it is. I just know that it's, it's kind of the way business is done and it's really nasty. And because it usually is always really nasty, there's less sensitivity about the next guy that has to do something that nobody's going to like. So, you know, it feels a little gross when it's a team heading to the playoffs. But, you know, I don't, I don't know if you thought that he should have been able to coach throughout the playoff. I have no problem with Ole Miss going like, look, we're not, we're not doing this. I don't know if there was a way that Lane could have done it where it would have been better. I don't know if LSU would have been fine with that if they kept advancing, being like, hey, we've got transfer portals. We've got all this stuff coming up.
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Booger McFarland
I'm telling you. Hey, I'm telling you. I'm not telling you what I heard. LSU was cool with him coaching as far as they went into the playoffs. They were fine with it. They were okay. They told Lane he could coach, right?
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe that would have been the right way to do it. But like, I look at even James Franklin right now with the Penn State situation of Virginia Tech, like, they've been 24 decommits from Penn State. Eleven of those have gone to Virginia Tech. So with this being over the last few years of the transfer portal and all this stuff, like, Lane's not going to be like, he's going to be prepping for Ole Miss playoff games, but he's also going to be inside the facility telling these guys that he thinks matter and can play for him in Baton Rouge. So I think we'd be really naive to think that that wouldn't be part of the reason why Ole Miss is like, you know what, man? Like, we're just not going to do this. We're not going to have you around anymore. So I, I don't really blame them for deciding, hey, this doesn't make a ton of sense. Even though it sounds like if they had played, if they were going to be playing tomorrow, excuse me, on Saturday in the SEC title game, it sounds like they let him coach. Yeah, he would have coached that game.
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Von Miller
Right.
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Booger McFarland
Because the turnaround would have been too quick. There's a. I think the way to do it is how North Texas is doing it, how Tulane is doing it, how if James Madison gets in, how they're going to do it.
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Ryan Rosillo
But those guys aren't in the same division. That's.
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Booger McFarland
I understand. They're not in the same division. And because that. There's less emotion. The reason this got messy is because of the emotion, the emotion involved because of the rival and because Ole Miss has always looked at LSU and said, that's what we want to be. And that's how that rivalry became so. Like, even going back to Halloween night when Billy Cannon took the punt return back, like, if you go back that far, this robbery has been brewing for a long time. And Lane, talk about role reversal. He stirred the robbery when he was at Ole Miss. And so how, I guess, how ironic is it now he's on the other side. It just creates. I think the schedule comes out next week. We're going to find out when LSU goes back to Oxford. That'll be must see tv. I think two games will be must see TV next year. Clemson comes to Baton Rouge for Lane's first game next year. And then somewhere, I think in October, LSU goes to Oxford. I don't like to predict things, but I can guarantee you game day, I'll probably be at those two games.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, it would make sense. And I'll correct myself. Technically, not the division anymore, but the history being in the same. Yeah, yeah. It's a little extra than, say, you know, it being somebody who used to be in the East. Let's talk SEC title game then. What do you got?
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Booger McFarland
To me, that game is less about X's and O's, it's more about mentality. Like when Kirby left Bama and went to Georgia, what did he try to do? He tried to mimic what Nick taught him. We're going to be physical. We're going to run the ball, we're going to play defense. Well, somewhere along the lines, he mimicked everything but the mindset. Because every time Georgia plays Alabama, it's almost like they're getting their own way. Now, I'll give him credit. He's won one time and that was a big one. That was for the national championship.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, that was a big one. Right. But that's the only way.
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Booger McFarland
I mean, that was. That was a huge one. But Georgia has probably been more talented than Alabama a lot of the times. At the very minimum, they've been as equally talented. So how come they can't win? I think it's all mental. You know, Warren Sapp said years ago, he told me, never accept the carbon copy the original. And the original was always Alabama and it's still been Alabama now. It's kind of crazy now because Alabama doesn't do Alabama anymore. They don't line up and run the football down your throat anymore. They can't run the football this year for whatever reason. Jam Miller can't run it. The offensive line hadn't been good. So it's like the fun and gun with Ty Simpson and Jeremy Bernard and Ryan Williams, who sometimes catches it, sometimes he doesn't. So.
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Take away all the X's and O's. I just want Kirby to get his team to play like the team on the other side is Texas and not Alabama, if that makes sense. Because they play with a mentality. I think that's different. Every other team on the other sideline not named Alabama. It's like they come into the game and say, we're going to dominate. It's almost like when they go against Alabama, we're just trying to play on the even or something. To me, that's. That's where that game always gets out of whack.
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Ryan Rosillo
I love the matchup, not just because of the names, but who these teams are right now and then who they looked like last week because, I mean, I think it's fair to say Alabama, even though it was odd because they actually looked like they were able to run the football against an Auburn defense who doesn't let anybody, like whatever you want to say about Auburn, and I've said this earlier in the pod, like, I think that defense is the best unit of any bad team in college football. It's. It's absurd how, how nasty and how talented that group is. They're not going to be involved in any more of these conversations. But it comes down to Ty basically in the second half once again, like having to solve it. And it wasn't his greatest game. So we know they're likely going to be one dimensional. They got shut out in the second half against Georgia in that game. There's probably some decision stuff there with Kirby where like, man, if you got a chance to look that one again or replay it, whatever, he made the decision didn't work out. Then they have that, that pitch out to cash it doesn't work out, gets blown up, you know, so they were right in it after getting rid of a ton of points in the first half. The funny thing is on the other side, like I started to feel better about Georgia's front. I still feel better about their front. But then Stockton has the worst game of his season against a Tech defense that get lit up for three straight weeks. Although I would say watching Tech and Georgia play like that, Tech defense was so up for that game because of the rivalry and how hard those guys were hitting and they just were a really intense unit there that didn't look anything like the previous few weeks. So I'm leaning Georgia in this one because I would think in a rematch in the season and the history and just the one dimensional part of Bama's offense, even though it's not like I think Stockton's going to beat you multiple times, I think the Tennessee thing was probably more of an aberration than who he became this season. I guess I just like Georgia in the matchup.
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Booger McFarland
Yeah, Georgia's got a. Georgia's got to run the football. Like if you're, if you're Georgia, then I think you got to run it with Frazier and Bowens. You got to control the line of scrimmage. You got to get dealt and lucky involved with the tight end. You're going to have to hit a big play down the field. I don't think this, this Bama defense is as, as good rushing the passer. So maybe, maybe, maybe it's the old theory, let's come out and throw the football and get up a little bit and then let's turn around and hand the football off. So I'm not sure what Mike Bobo is going to come up with, but I know one thing, like Georgia is as talented as Alabama. This game should be really close. But for whatever reason, whether it's turnovers, whether it's here we go again, when something bad happens, it's usually not that way. And I think Kirby's got to get his team mentally ready to play. I do think Bama is probably more talented offensively. Georgia is more talented defensively. So let's see how this thing plays out.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I can't wait for this one. How does Indiana win?
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Booger McFarland
I think if you're Indiana, I think.
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Your quarterback has to be the best football player on the field. Now if you think about last year's game, I think that Rourke, I believe Indiana's quarterback's name was like he didn't play well. They were kind of offensively they couldn't get anything explosive. I think Mendoza is way better than Rourke. I think they have an opportunity to create some explosive plays. But Mendoza's got to play well. Like Matt Patricia is like he's scheming things and doing things. Like if you go back to the opening game against Arch, until the last game against Marcel Reed, like he's made quarterbacks look really bad based on some of the things he's doing defensively. Caleb Downs, Sonny Styles, Arvl Reese, like those guys have been absolutely outstanding. And so my question would be is, can Mendoza play and put up points? I don't think this is going to be a 1714 game. I think Julian saying is too accurate with the football. I think Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate are too good. I think if you're Ohio State, they finally got out of their way against Michigan where they said, okay, even though we can run the football, what's the best part of our team? It's the quarterback and the wide receivers. So let's throw the football. And so I think this game is going to be played in the high 20s, low 30s. Mendoza is going to have to put up some points. I think that's the key to that game. Man, this Indiana team is better than the one last year. The one last year really, even though the score was kind of close, they really were never in the game. And so I just want to see Concurrent Signetti's bunch, who's better this year hang with Ohio State. I know this. If the game is in the fourth quarter and it's a game, it's a one score game in the fourth quarter. I want to see how Ohio State performs because they've had double digit leagues against everybody. How do they handle being in a tight game in the fourth quarter when they got to make a play?
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Ryan Rosillo
I mean you can make the argument for both of these teams, I mean other than the emotion around Michigan where that Michigan team needed Ohio State to make four mistakes for them to be in the game. You know, both of these teams have just not been challenged the last, the last month and a half. You could make the argument looking at, you know, how the Big Ten schedule played out for them.
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Okay, if Duke wins, do you want them in the playoff?
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Booger McFarland
No, there's no room for a five loss team in the playoff. I'm just. Come on, man, let's be honest. Like we can sit up here and sugarcoat it.
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Von Miller
Like, I'm with you.
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Booger McFarland
If Tulane wins and JMU wins and Duke wins, I don't want to hear about Duke beating Virginia and getting a bump. There's no way a five loss team should be in the playoff. I think in that situation, JMU gets in, Tulane gets in, Duke. Hey, don't lose five times. That's all. I'll say.
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Ryan Rosillo
That Yukon loss though, looks better now. Just, just for the record.
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Booger McFarland
Better as in, like, well, you know.
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Ryan Rosillo
It had a nice season up there. In stores. Number two in independent football, right behind Notre Dame, of course. One of only two teams that play independent football.
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I look in the past when I would look at the structure of the new 12 team playoff. I mean, I, I can make an argument. But again, you get all this stuff passed. They had to tell the group of five, like, you will have a chance to be in this. So it feels like a full playoff and then, you know, whatever. Ultimately the big boys can kind of do whatever they want, but they probably felt like.
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A little bit more giving at that time, being like, look, we're going to get 12 of these. We're going to get this much more TV money. We're going to have all these extra games. Like, yeah, we can let those guys play in one of them. At least they change the seating part of it generally. Even a five loss team, like I look at your power four experience, to me it's a completely different level of football. It is a. Not to say that one team can't beat another team on one given week, but to look at what you go through in the American, you know, although the American, it feels pretty strong at the top. Sunbelt, I would probably argue against you on this one, but because it's this Duke team, you know, maybe if it were Tennessee with four losses somehow in this version of it, you know, like I, I was listening to some Tennessee arguments the other day about how like they're not that good and I was like, man, I don't know. Like, granted they got smoked by Vandy at home, which I didn't expect. But you look at the Georgia loss, you look at the Bama loss at the first half, end of first half, second half stuff like I'm like, God, that's a really good four loss team. So I'd like to leave myself the idea that there could be a team with a ton of losses, that it's like, think about their losses and how they played out and then who they actually lost to. But that's not the case for Duke. You know, we're talking about two lane, where they get two lanes quarterback. We're talking about the UConn part of it. They get destroyed by Illinois, which is like the one ranked win that a bunch of other teams have and then they don't even play. I think they played two of the top five teams in the acc. When you look at the standings there at least going into the last weekend, so it's hard to make a case for that five. I just wonder if the committee will actually do it and go with the Tulane North Texas winner and then and go James Madison. It'd be, it'd be wild, but they'd probably have a lot more support for something that I didn't even think was a possibility.
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Booger McFarland
I think the committee's got a lot on their hands from a seating standpoint. I think we have an idea of what the teams are right now. Virginia winning, you're in. If Duke wins, I think jmu, if they win, they're in North Texas, Tulane, it's a winning end game, but other than that, it seems like the teams are set. We're just going for seeding. I think Ohio State, Indiana. Regardless of what happens, I think both of those teams are getting a buy. All right.
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Ryan Rosillo
If Georgia loses, you would think so. You know, it's, I mean, I don't know how that game gets ugly. Maybe it's just Ohio State starts hitting all these big shots. But like I'm, I'm with you. Like this is the part of it where you would hope on the seating and the ranking stuff, it's like, well, if you just lost to everybody's number one and it was somewhat competitive, I don't want to see Indiana like over penalized for that and start pushing up some of these other teams. Like, I'd probably be more willing to make an argument for Texas Tech getting bumped up if they smash BYU again than I would. Just the default, hey, SEC conference champ this year. Because I've throughout the entire season, like, I think these teams are good, but I don't think any of those SEC teams are special by any means.
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Booger McFarland
No, I don't think there's any special team in the country, to be honest with you. I think Ohio State's probably the most talented team. Other than that, I think it's a lot of good teams. Like every, like the committee fell in love with Notre Dame throughout the season. They ran off 10 games in a row, but who did they really beat? I mean, the best wins usc. You know, people say, man, they've gotten so much better. Well, look at Miami also. Miami's gotten better also. I don't think there's a dominant team like Georgia. Georgia looks like they can dominate sometimes, but I've seen Georgia struggle also. And so this is a year that I think that it's just like in pro football. I think this is a year where there's five or six teams that if you told me, hey, here's the matchup, I'll say they can win that one. And I think that's what's going to be so cool about this 12 team playoff and then also the NFL playoffs. When they start, we don't know who's going to win it. Yeah, Ohio State will probably be a prohibitive favorite, but I'm not betting the farm saying they're going to win it all.
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I'm just not. Especially when I watched them play against Michigan the other day. And if Bryce Underwood could hit the side of a barn, Michigan was in that game. They just kept kicking field goals And Michigan is not super like overly talented. They're very well coached, but they're not overly talented. So it's just one of those things that even though Ohio State's supposed to be this juggernaut, like when they've gone against teams that have equal competition, Texas, Michigan, like the games have been fairly close. Right.
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Ryan Rosillo
Like, I don't know the Texas one. Sure. I mean the Texas one is, you know, goal line play goes the other way, then who knows how we're talking about Texas, how we're talking about Ohio State. I think after the first quarter, once everybody settled down with the emotion of that, I thought Ohio State was dominant against the Wolverines, but you're right. I mean they were completely limited too because Underwood just isn't going to do it against that team right now.
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Booger McFarland
Correct. And also Michigan was kicking field goals. Imagine instead of Michigan kicking three field goals, they scored three touchdowns. That's a whole different ball game. So. But to your point, they did what they normally don't do, which is get big plays and create a separation. And at that point it was a runaway because Michigan was never going to be able to score that many points.
- [27:34]
Ryan Rosillo
I have a couple NFL thoughts, but I just want to make sure I touch on the Big 12. I put it last. I can't fathom BYU beating Texas Tech in the rematch unless it's just a mistake filled game.
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Booger McFarland
I think they got to take him in a phone booth and make it a 12 round slug fight. Like they got to resist them being byu. Resist the urge to drop Barbach Meyer back and let him throw the football 30 times. Don't do that. Like you got to run the football, man. Make that defensive line. There's an old saying, Rossillo, in football, I don't know if you ever heard this one. You got to earn the right to rush the passer. Okay, Texas Tech wants to rush the passer. Well, how do you earn the right to do that? You got to stop the run. If I'm Solani, I'm making them stop the run. I'm going to run the football. And that does two things. One, it's going to slow that pass rush down of the Texas Tech Red Raiders. And two, it keeps Barry Morton and offense off the field. That's what I do. And that doesn't mean you got to turn into Navy and run the football 60 times. But it does mean that you got to be okay with getting four or five yards, throwing a 10 yard pass, getting four. Like you got to be okay with that ball control offense.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. I did not like Bear had a tough day. Bear had a tough day in Lubbock. So, you know, maybe second time around, being a young quarterback in the seat a second time, it's going to be a little bit easier for him. But I still think Tech could have put up way more points if they weren't kicking field goals all day.
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Booger McFarland
So with that saying, you said you can't see a way BYU wins. So let's go down that road. BYU wins, Texas Tech is in, BYU's out. Based on what the committee had done, now, most likely you're going to see a situation where Notre Dame and Miami are right there next to each other. And if it comes down to that final spot, Notre Dame has been ahead of Miami all season long. I'm going to ask you a question. Do you think at the last rankings that the committee would move Notre Dame, excuse me, move Miami over Notre Dame and give Miami the spot based on the head to head?
- [29:27]
Ryan Rosillo
Look, I have a hard time with this, right? Cause like, I would want to be, if I were on the committee, I would want to be able to say, like, hey, I know what the resume is and I know all this different stuff because like, you can get really, really.
- [29:39]
Biased with the way you want to present a resume. Like, it's super easy to do. I mean, I could, I could do it with all these teams and be like, hey, here's the argument for, here's the argument against at least the ones that we're debating, not with the top teams, because there'd just be nothing against it. I, I feel like Notre Dame is the better football team today.
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But as this thing has played out, I'd have a really hard time ignoring the head to head in your scenario where that means Texas Tech and BYU are in and we're going for that last spot. I mean, sure, we could talk about C.J. carr, first snaps ever on the road. Miami was the better team. You know, late, you're like, wow, Notre Dame's back in this game. That's how I remember it though, where it never really felt like Miami was all that threatened, even though there was a chance there at the end.
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I also think Miami really hurt themselves losing the way they had lost, what, twice in three weeks right as the committee got started. So it was kind of like, ah, Miami's a huge afterthought. And then they had to like, work to kind of build them back in because now they're stuck in this problem. So.
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If I want this regular season to mean what I always try to defend and protect with, with expansion and realignment, all these things that I hate, I would probably, you know, lean towards. Look, I think we have to give it to Miami on the head to head here. So that's what I would do. That's. That's where I've come on this.
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Booger McFarland
Right. I think I agree with you. Like, if head to head's not going to matter, then why are we playing the games? To me, it's as simple as that. I hear you. I think Notre Dame is better. I think Notre Dame might be better. I don't have to really think, though, I can go back and turn the tape on August 31st. And I watched them play and regardless of when it was, they played this season. And it has to count. Like, this is a resume. It's not a beauty pageant. It's not about how you look right now. It's a resume contest. And when you look at the resume, when the resumes are equal, what's the differentiating factor? Well, I saw these two teams play in A beat B. It's as simple as that for me.
- [31:24]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. The committee, this committee, at least this year, tracking some of the stuff. And I'm not one to be like, oh, these people are so stupid. And this is so. Because it's like, look, the rank of 25 teams, like, any one of us can find something that we can get really mad about, probably make a really compelling case. But they seem to be very aligned with some of the metrics. And Notre Dame is off the charts on some of the overall, like, rankings where you'll look at them as a football team. So that might be something they're defaulting to in the room and ignoring something that I think over the years. Like, I think back to that TCU Baylor argument that we had like 10 years ago, and it was like, yeah, I know their loss is worse than your loss, but I mean, my God, you would never, you would never argue it the other way. Notre Dame would never argue it. Their fans would never argue it the other way if it was the other way around. And Miami were ranked ahead of them. So I do think that that's supposed to matter in a regular season that has been. Look, it's still super important, but watered down a little bit more as we've had so much expansion.
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Kyle Sirruti
All right.
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Ryan Rosillo
NFL, it seems a little just less dramatic and no. Kind of finish up here with you. Do you really like any team in the afc?
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Booger McFarland
I like denver. I don't trust pho knix.
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I like indy. I don't trust daniel jones.
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I.
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Don't trust Walter Morrison.
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Ryan Rosillo
You like Drake May, but don't trust New England.
- [32:54]
Booger McFarland
I trust Mike Brayburn. Yeah, I do, I do. I trust Mike Braybo and I trust Josh McDaniels with that quarterback.
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If you told me I could hang my hat on one right now, I think New England is going to get the buy. That means they don't have to play the first round. I think they'll have a home playoff game the second round. It's going to be 25 degrees in Foxborough. I think I'm going to give Mike Vrabel one win. It's on him. And I think the second win to go to the Super Bowl, Drake May is going to have to play like he's played all season. So if you gave me one team to hitch my wagon to on that side of the bracket, I would hit you to the Patriots. If you told me the nfc, I probably hit you to the Rams. I think the Rams, if they're healthy, the way Stafford is playing, they can run the football defensively. I like what they're doing. Emmanuel Forbes has found, like, I guess found the, you know, found his calling. Going from Washington to la. I think the Rams are the best team. And then I say that and then Carolina puts a foot in their mouth and beats them in Charlotte. So it just, that's what I'm saying. Like there's several teams that can kind of win this thing this season.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, the Carolina loss now though, especially what they've done at home. And then of course the Green Bay game in there as well. And they were like the darlings of Vegas there for a while. Like every single week you'd look at sharp plays and it was like, man, Carolina again. And they were on it. Incredible job by, by the people that do this professionally. I don't even look at a Carolina loss, especially the way that one plays out. You get the two fourth down versions. You've got Bryce Young playing probably the best game he's ever played. You've got the huge turnover that leads to another seven. So, you know, anybody that's holding teams to these standards of like, you can't have the bad week after everybody fell in love with you, I'm more inclined to go, what are your best wins? Like? Does it look like you can beat the best teams in the NFL and for some of these teams, good records, I may not see that. I may feel like it's schedule at least with the Rams. Like, I know when you line up against the best teams, like, I really like your chances Even with that blown game against Philly earlier this year. So if we stayed in the nfc, how many teams did you pick against the Bears in a playoff game? So it'd be the Rams.
- [35:01]
Von Miller
Rams.
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Ryan Rosillo
Eagles in a rematch or.
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Booger McFarland
No, no, something going. Something's going on with the Eagles, man. Like, I've seen it too many times. Rams, Seahawks, Bucks. Where's the game being played at?
- [35:18]
Ryan Rosillo
Well, I don't know. I mean, yeah, let's say the seating plays out. It's at Chicago.
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Booger McFarland
No, it's going to be too cold up there. Yeah, probably. Probably Ram Seahawks with the ability to go into Chicago and win. I think those are the two teams that I would pick that have the ability to go into Chicago and get the dub.
- [35:37]
Ryan Rosillo
How funny was it being a warm weather team and then going like.
- [35:44]
Kyle Sirruti
We'Re.
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Ryan Rosillo
Going to talk ourselves into that. We're not going to be cold and we're tough and we're all these things and it doesn't matter. And then you get out there and you're like, damn, it's cold. Because that was part of the Tampa resume there forever. It was that you guys, once you traveled north a certain line, you were a different team. And I think it's still hard for us to kind of understand that stuff. But then I even think back to the playoff last year. That Tennessee team, that's the coldest football team I think I've ever seen. When they were at Columbus and it looked like their whole team was like, can we just now, like, this sucks. Like, every shot on the sideline was like, hey, let's just run the ball and run this fucking clock. Like, we don't want to be here anymore. Speak to your experience surrounded by a bunch of tough dudes with great resumes. Whereas, like, we can. We can hype ourselves up as much as we want coming out of the tunnel, but something happens when you're not used to it.
- [36:35]
Booger McFarland
Dude, here's the thing about it. Like, living in cold weather helps you create a mindset. Everybody's cold, first of all. But when you live there, you have a mindset that you're used to dealing with. When you live in a city where in December, like right now in Tampa, it was 85 degrees a day. I played golf 85. I tried to make it cold because it was 55 this morning when I teed off, I put on the quarter zip, and by the time I played two holes, I had to take it off. And so that's how soft we are in Florida. And no matter how many times you tell Yourself, hey, just lock in. When you walk out there and that hulk, and that's what we call it, that hawk, it's like 20 degrees and the wind is blowing and it starts to cut through your skin and you can feel it down. You're running down your throat and coming out the crack of your behind, big guy. It comes a situation where you got to lock in for three hours and it turns into mental toughness. And because we don't do it a lot, that's where you see it. Like, Tennessee has never been in that. It gets a little cold in Knoxville, but it's not as cold as it is in Columbus. So you, you're. You're used to dealing with on a daily basis, whereas we're trying to get into it and get acclimated for three hours. And it becomes a, becomes a mindset, man, because everybody's cold. Like, you can't tell me Ohio State wasn't cold. But because they deal with it every day, they know how to deal with it every day. And mentally they're, they're. They're capable of dealing with it every day, whereas if you're not used to it, man, and it's hell, dude. Like, it's cold.
- [38:01]
Ryan Rosillo
So even though I think all of us that have watched the Bears this year, and you're like, are they really this good? Like, they're not number one seed good, I don't look at them being the top of the nfc, even though there's a number one next to them right now and going like, hey, that's the team I'm picking to win the NFC and play in a Super Bowl. But kind of to your Patriots point, where it's like, all right, you know, who are they playing? Like, if the Pats are playing the Colts or the Chargers at home, you know, once they get a buy, like, all right, well, what's the concern there? You know, I do think this Colts correction that we're in the midst of right now, too, has a lot to do with the schedule. You know, they still got two tough ones here, so it could be one of those things where the Colts actually look good again at the very end of the season, and we're just like, hey, that was a really tough four game stretch for them after, you know, other than that Denver game at the beginning of the year was like, is that a bad loss? Like, no, it's actually a really good win for Indianapolis, and we shouldn't be that down on Denver for that game. But it sounds like based on everything you're saying, There is that you probably pick Chicago at home against a team you might like better just because of what you just explained.
- [39:03]
Booger McFarland
Yeah. Especially if the defense continues to play to the level that there are. Caleb is. Even though the passing game hasn't been great, Caleb makes two or three wild throws a game, man. Like the throw he made the other day in the Philly game when he was rolling to the left and threw it to the tight end like a little 7 route to the corner. Like, that was stupid, dude.
- [39:21]
Ryan Rosillo
That's the USC Caleb. That's the guy that I fell in love with. I was like, there we go.
- [39:26]
Booger McFarland
Like, when he can make those throws like they're going to be. And Ben Johnson is good for 10, 10 to 14 points, because if he's schematically, he's going to create something where they're going to score a couple of touchdowns, then it turns into if they can run the football with this rookie manang guy and Swift, like, dude, they rush for almost 300 yards against Philly.
- [39:45]
Ryan Rosillo
I couldn't believe it.
- [39:46]
Booger McFarland
Me either. But they did it.
- [39:48]
Ryan Rosillo
Do you know that there was the most the Fangio's given up on the ground in 20 years?
- [39:53]
Booger McFarland
Yeah. And that's because, like, Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter were just getting abused inside.
- [39:58]
Ryan Rosillo
And Carter's now hurt with the shoulder thing, which Max actually makes a little bit.
- [40:02]
Booger McFarland
It's kind of weird because he had a double procedure. They didn't call it surgery, they just called it a double procedure. I'm like, like, what kind of procedure are we talking? He got shots in him or. Cause they didn't say surgery, they just said procedure. So I'm trying to figure out, like, what the hell is that?
- [40:17]
Ryan Rosillo
It sounded maybe a lot worse than it actually is, but yeah, we'll see. We'll see if they can't figure it out. You think with the talent or maybe, you know, you start going like, hey, is this group a little overrated? It's like, well, a lot of those guys are just in a Super bowl last year, so I'm not quite ready for that. As disappointing as that game was, I know you probably have another tee time for probably getting another nine holes in here. What'd you shoot today?
- [40:40]
Booger McFarland
88.
- [40:42]
Ryan Rosillo
That's terrible for you.
- [40:44]
Booger McFarland
No, that's actually. I hadn't played in six weeks. That's the first time I touched a club in six weeks. With all the travel, I literally grabbed the clubs. I hit about 10 balls. And I played at this place called Cabot, which used to be the old Worldwoods Cabot Citrus farms. It's pretty cool. First tee shop piped it down the middle. I started feeling pretty good. Then the second shot, I hit it so far right, I was able to get up and down and make bogey. I make a lot of. I make a lot of bogeys, man. I make some good pars and some par fives. My green regulation percentage sucks.
- [41:18]
That's what. That's what makes me struggle. Like, I drove the ball well today. I couldn't hit any green. Short game was cool. I stayed out the bunkers. Of course, today wasn't. It was. It's long, like it was 6900 yards, but it was kind of wide open. Like, I don't. Yardage has never been a problem for me. It's the fact that I got to be able to hit more greens where I can actually score and keep up with some of the rosillo scores I've been hearing about.
- [41:41]
Ryan Rosillo
Well, we'll get you out here. Are you going to be in LA for any of the games?
- [41:45]
Booger McFarland
Maybe I'm coming to Santa Clara for the super bowl, so maybe I have to make a trip up.
- [41:50]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, come on out. We'll. I'll have to connect you with Marty Fish because I don't have the kind of juice that he does to get us on somewhere nice.
- [41:55]
Booger McFarland
You don't have to connect me. I can call Marty. We can put Marty on the Zoom right now. That's my guy.
- [41:59]
Ryan Rosillo
I just. Yeah, no, maybe the three of us or whatever, we'll.
- [42:02]
Booger McFarland
Yeah. And we can get Andy Roddick or James Blake and. Let's go do it.
- [42:06]
Ryan Rosillo
Blake Griffin, staying with the Blake theme. You're the man. Thanks, Booger. We'll see you Saturday. All right.
- [42:11]
Booger McFarland
Anytime later. So.
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Ryan Rosillo
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- [43:24]
Ryan Rosillo
He's been one of my favorite players throughout his time in the NFL. Commander's linebacker, future hall of Famer, and host of the Free Range Podcast. It's Vaughn Miller. Good to see you. What's up?
- [43:33]
Von Miller
Howdy, guys. Thanks for having me.
- [43:35]
Ryan Rosillo
This was a big week for you with the history with Denver. It was a really fun game. I know. Not the outcome you'd want. I almost feel like that Ingram route against your guy, Bobby Wagner, was unfair to have him, to have to hold up and coverage on that one. But look, this stage of your career, is there a different kind of appreciation for you to have this kind of matchup, knowing the history and success you had against your opponent?
- [44:00]
Von Miller
Yeah, you know, that was a. That was a tough loss. It was a tough week for Von Miller all the way around. You know, the Aggies lost to tu, and, you know, then we lost to the Denver Broncos, and, yeah, it was tough. Now I can just go back to being a fan, you know, now I could just go back to being a fan in Denver Broncos. Definitely my favorite, you know, team, the National Football League. A huge fan. Played there, you know, 11 years. But with that being said, I definitely want to win. You know, when you love somebody so much like that, you definitely want to, like, beat them and say it, you know, I told you so. But, you know, I won't have the opportunity to do that right now. And, you know, everything happens for a reason. There's no coincidences in life. And that's just how I was supposed to be. So I'm okay. I'm okay with that.
- [44:47]
Ryan Rosillo
When you were talking about their old line, going up against it, and I. And I really want to talk about what you want to do after being a player, but what is it that you see from this group that. That led you to giving them such great praise?
- [45:00]
Von Miller
I think it's just, you know, I think it starts with, you know, Garrett Bose. I'm a huge fan of him off the football field, so I think it was easier to. To give, you know, them their flowers like that. Been knowing Gary for a long time. I know the type of player that he is. I've Seen him come in as a rookie and develop into one of the best left tackles in the NFL. And, you know, Quinn Minors is one of the best guards in the NFL. They've paid all five. All five. Llama. From Wattenberg to minor scarabos to McGlinchey, they have been playing together solid, solid group. They've been playing together, you know, for a very long time. And, yeah, when you turn the film, like, they're just a solid group from right tackle to left tackle.
- [45:46]
Ryan Rosillo
I promise, this is going to be 30 minutes on the Broncos. But I know that you mentioned you'd reached out to him this summer about going back. You were kind of funny about it, but it. It seemed like it was quick. Yeah, it was. Why was that?
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Von Miller
You know, just most. You know, so I had a. I had a Von's Vision charity event for my foundation in Denver. You know, every year I have that in Denver, and, you know, I invite some of the Denver Broncos to come out. You know, whether that's Patrick Tan, Gary Bowles, Cortland, you know, whoever. Like, my guys are still there. I try to invite him to come back, you know. You know, Gary came this year and, you know, just talking to Gary and hanging out, and he was like, bro, have you talked to the Broncos, like, come back? And I was like, man, y' all got. Y' all got Nick Benito and. And. And Jonathan Cooper. Like, y' all don't need me. He's like, no, but you've on. Man, did it be dope to have you back, man, we'd be so. It'd be so dope to have you back. And you could. We could contribute. And there's this and that. We ready to go to super bowl. And you could trip. Like, you know what? Like, all right, I'll reach out. You know, me with my GM mindset. I already knew, like, what the answers was going to be. Like, they got two other great pass rushes underneath those guys, and those guys go out there and get sacks as well. They're very productive on the football field as well. And they play special teams, too. So I already kind of knew, like, you know, what it was, but it was a small piece in my heart that was saying, like, okay, out of 53 guys, like, I can. It's gotta be a spot out of these 53 guys that I could, you know, that I could take and, you know, but that was just a small, like, little percentage in there. But I knew what, like, his answer was going to be. It was exactly what I had just told you. Like, we Got two other guys and, you know, just giving them the space to be able to grow. Like, you know, when I get in the game, like, it's dedicated for me to get in the game. Like, when I'm in the game, like, I don't have to share that moment or share that space with anybody. Like, it's. It's me going out there trying to do whatever I can to get a sack. I don't have to, like, you know, for the small period of time that I'm out there, the 35%, it's about Vaughn getting sacks and Vaughn making a play. So I knew, like, you know, to have that opportunity with the Denver Broncos, it probably, you know, it probably wouldn't happen. You got two guys that's 100% of the time that when they out there, they out there to get sacks and make plays. Jonathan Cooper and Nick Bonito. So I knew, like, you know, what it was. And that's exactly. After a short conversation. That's exactly what George Payton said. And we actually talked more about the path to be a GM in the National Football League. That's. That's something that I. That I really want to do after football. You know, coaching is. Is just. I got a lot of respect for coaches, and I see the. I see, like, what it takes to be, like, a great coach in the National Football League. And I knew that I would probably be more suited for the infrastructure of the team and, like, building the team and getting the right guys in there than coaching guys each and every day. That's just my opinion.
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Ryan Rosillo
What did you do, decide you wanted to become a gm?
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Von Miller
I decided it a long time ago, honestly. Probably year 10 in the National Football League, probably year nine. Like, after seeing John Elway do it for so long and, you know, John lynch, you know, Ozzie Newsome, like, some of the guys, some of the former players that I saw, like, play, you know, hall of Fame careers and then, like, head over to the front office. Like, I saw those guys do it. I was like, man, that'd be something that. That I wouldn't mind doing. And it would. It's not like I have, like, that, but I would say, like, I have this special talent or this special gift to, like, build teams. I would simply just go off on my experience, like, you know, being on. I went to SUBO three times. One, two, played with so many different hall of Fame players. I would just base it off some of the experience that I had. And not only the players, but I've been around some hall of Fame athletic Trainers and hall of Fame head coaches and, you know, hall of Fame gyms and hall of Fame cafeteria workers and, you know, hall of Fame janitors and hall of Fame. Like, I've been around so many different people and so many different personalities. I would just try to recreate, you know, my own version of that.
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Ryan Rosillo
If you were a GM and you were looking to hire a coach, I don't know if you're going to give me a name here, because you play for so many guys, you may not feel like you want to leave anybody out, but there's probably a. A formula you have in your head of, like, look, I. I want you to understand the game at this elite level, but I also want you to understand personalities and managing that many people on the roster. Like, who. Who do you think of when you think of, like, this was kind of the perfect combination of all these attributes.
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Von Miller
I blame some good ones, I'll say that. And I get those guys, they props off top. Coach Fox was a great one. Coach Kubiak was a great one. Vance Joseph, Big Fangio.
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I learned so much from him, from the defensive perspective. You know, his time at head coach was short, but when it comes to the best defensive mind that I've. I've been around probably Coach Fangio, and this was year.
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9, 10, and 11 that I was with Coach Fangio, and I was able to learn so much defensively. I was. I was a better defensive mind after Coach Fangio being my. My head coach. And probably, you know, he probably was a better defensive coordinator than head coach, but his IQ around the game is unquestionable. I learned so much from him. Coach McVay, like, he was amazing, like Coach McVeigh.
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Coach McDermott, like, he gets this stigma of being like, a hard nose, like, dry, like coach, but he's one of the best coaches that I've been around as well. And then, you know, obviously, dq, it just gets like, I'm always around like a great coach. And I think that's been a common denominator throughout my entire football career. Me being. Getting around Dan quinn, like, year 15 was definitely helpful, too. Like, being around Coach quinn at year 15, like, I feel like I could play year 16, I could play year 17 just by having a coach like that. But for me, the best coach that kind of embodies everything that I would want to do as, you know, a GM would have to be Coach McVeigh. He just. He just got. He just. He just got it. Like, he was a. Yeah, he was a great football man. He could Manage personalities. He was young. It's kind of like an actor, you know, he's kind of like a, like a, like an Oscars. Like, you know, he's a handsome coach with like the little flip up on the hair. Like super smart, super intense. Like, he led every single meeting. Like he knew how to influence guys and motivate guys. Not like it was hard either though. Like, we had Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford, Cooper cup, you know, Andrew Whitworth, Leonard Floyd, Jalen Ramsey. Like, and he was able to just balance all of those personalities and we were able to win the super bowl all over it. So I would try to find my. The best version of Coach McVeigh that I probably could.
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Ryan Rosillo
How hard would it be? Find another Aaron Donalds?
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Von Miller
It'd be impossible. Just like it'd be impossible to find another Coach McVeigh. But I think, you know, one thing about this league, it's always more talent. It might not be exactly like Aaron Donald. You'll never find another Aaron Donald, but you can go find a game record that wrecked the game similar to Aaron Donald did.
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Ryan Rosillo
Put the GM hat on then. Let's go back to your draft class. You went number two behind Cam Newton. If you were the gm, would you have taken Cam one or you with the.
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Von Miller
Well, what I've seen, like, in hindsight, I probably would have took J.J. watt number one. You know, they already had Jimmy Clausen and you know, the year after it was Andrew look and you know, RG3. So even if we weren't able to be successful, you know, with Jimmy Clausen, I would have had tj. I would have had JJ Watt, and then it was quarterbacks in the draft after me too. So you probably could have ended up with J.J. watt and Aaron, Aaron look on the same team. And then who knows what would have happened. So then you wouldn't been able to have Luke Keakley either, though. And he's a, He's a Hall of Fame talent too. But you know, and in my opinion, like J.J. watt, like, with hindsight, still would have. I still would have took. Probably would have took J.J. watt number one, and I still would have went number two to the Denver Broncos. I think, you know, my career and the type of fans that I had, I wouldn't want to trade that for nobody. Like Broncos country, like this game that we just played. Like having seen all of those Broncos jerseys and seeing the type of love that I still got for Marcos country, like, I wouldn't want to trade that selfishly, you know, we redrafting the draft but selfishly, I wouldn't want to trade that from nobody. But I would have took probably Cam. I would have. Then Cam Newton would have been number three to the, he would have been number three to the Buffalo Bills and who knows the type of impact that he would have had on that franchise, you know, as well.
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Then you got. I just do the top five. Then I think it was, I think it was. Julio was number, was number four and then Patrick Peterson was number five. I probably would have kept all those the same. And yeah, that was, that would be my little reshuffle.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, but that was also.
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Yeah, so you'd have Jones because the order was, was Marcel Darius, AJ Green, then Patrick Patterson or Peterson. Excuse me, I want to ask another kind of team building thing because like over the years, just as a fan, right, you go, hey, this is the most important thing. And then sometimes maybe the rules change and there's the cyclical nature of the game. And then, you know, look, I, I watched historically, I think there was an argument against paying the top receivers based on the team's success. And then, you know, sometimes that can be like, hey, that's just something that's happening. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. And then you watch what the Cowboys are doing right now with this offense where they end up with another number one in Pickens, which I know you talked about on the Free Ranch podcast because it's just like we knew the talent was there, but what he's doing now is like a real. He's not just another number one. We're talking about a guy who's like a top five wide receiver. Next to cd. If you could build and maybe I'll be. You can correct me if you think I'm wrong in these positions, but if you could have two of this of like premier guys at the same position, would you rather have two elite tackles, two elite edge guys, two elite corners, or two number one receivers on the same team?
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Von Miller
I just don't. It's just.
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You know, obviously there are anomalies, but I just, I just don't believe in having the highest paid quarterback and the highest pay wide receiver. You know, your, your receiver is dependent on the quarterback. And, you know, cd, CD Lamb was, I think it was the second highest paid wide receiver and Dak Prescott gets hurt, you know, last year, and his success is dependent on the quarterback. Obviously there are anomalies. Like, you see what's going on now. Like, I, I just can't. With that being said, I, I can't see Jerry Jones letting go of George Pickens, like, and you already got CD Lamb on the books. Dak Prescott is already the highest paid player in the National Football League.
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But I. I just can't. You already let go of Micah Parsons, which was absurd to me, because Micah doesn't. His success isn't dependent on any of those things. Like, you just throw Michael Parsons out there, he's gonna get you 15 sacks a season. Like, and that's without having the top quarterback. Just imagine you put him on one of the teams that has a really good offense and they're playing with a lead. Like, who knows what type of success Michael would have in that type of environment, too. And there also are anomalies in that too, like what Miles Garrett is doing. And he is one of the worst teams in the National Football League. He rarely ever plays with a league. You saw the one game that he did play with a lead versus the Raiders, and he had three sacks. The week before he had four sacks, and the week before that he had.
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Booger McFarland
Five sacks versus the Patriots.
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Von Miller
And they were getting killed that game, too. So there are anomalies with that. But I would pick, if I could have two of the best, like, that was the question. Like 1 and 2, would I rather have the 1 and 2 wide receiver, 1 and 2 defensive ends, 1 and 2 corners, or 1 and 2 offensive tackles? I would.
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It would. I would have to go with either the offensive lineman, a left and right tackle, or a left and right defensive end. I think, you know, you can build around both of those guys. You know, you want to have, like, left and right tackles, two of the best tackles, and a decent quarterback. I think you can get. You can have some success there. But with those pass rushes, like, you know, you can build around those guys, too. They're going to make the cornerbacks better, they're going to make the linebackers better, they're going to make the interior linemen better. You know, corners all great. They're right there, right behind those two. I feel like having a left and right corner is great. Like you. I've had success in that environment as well. Like, we had a keep Talib and Chris Harris, and we were able to have success with me and DeMarcus, and we were just. We had players on all four corners of the defense.
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I know past rushers and I know the type of impact that they could have on games and.
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But I would say I would. I would have to go with the left and right tackle. I'm just one more player away. I'm just the quarterback away. And it doesn't even have to be like a.
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You know, a top five quarterback. Like, I'm just. I'm a quarterback away from having a really good team. Because those tackles, they're. They're so. If you look at every right tackle, every dominant right tackle in the NFL, they have a really good offense. Like, if you look at Christian, he was on.
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Booger McFarland
He's on.
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Von Miller
He's playing left tackle now, but Christian Wirth, he started on the right. They had success. You got penny se. Right tackle, they're having success. Juan Taylor, right tackle, they're having success.
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Brian o' Neal is one of the best right tackles in the league. They're not having, you know, the, the success that they would want with the Minnesota Vikings, but throughout his career that he's been there, they've been able to have competitive football teams. If you have a really good right tackle, you know, your offense is. You're going to have some success at the right tackle position.
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Ryan Rosillo
There was a play in the game against Denver where your right tackle got called for a hold on the first touchdown in overtime, right? And Cooper's coming around the edge and he gets real low. And, you know, look, it's kind of one of those momentum plays they call it whatever you end up getting a touchdown, you go for two. Doesn't work out. That play reminded me of you, except for the part where Cooper ended up on the ground. Because your bend is unlike, I think, anything I've. I've ever seen. And I mean, I know this is like a weird question, but do you have an abnormally, like, longer torso to legs? Like, have you ever been measured? Because I just can't imagine with your size, the bend, and all the times it looked like you may go down and then you just magically would pop back up and close on the quarterback. It is as special, like, of an identifying thing of any player that I've ever seen.
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Von Miller
I think it's just. It's just speed. Like, and I try to take complex situations and just make them simple. Like, I'm just thinking, how fast can I get from point A to point B? That's all I'm thinking about is getting from point A to point B is as fast as possible. And, you know, that's the hardest part. Whenever you do a ghost move and like, the tackle just totally whiffs over the top of you. The hardest part is just staying up and like, bending around the corner. Jonathan Cooper got lucky on that one. Cause that field was slippery and he ended up slipping. And then like, the tackle just kind of like laid on him. It wasn't holding.
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Kyle Sirruti
Like, he.
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Von Miller
If you look closely, he was. He didn't even have him hooked for real. Like, you know, Jonathan, his. His neck wasn't like bent back or anything like that. He just kind of like failed. With him, it looked bad.
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Ryan Rosillo
Is. Is the prop. You know what I mean? Like, I was.
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Von Miller
It was not bad, though. He wasn't like dragging him down or anything like that. He just kind of like, fail with him.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right. And it's funny, I don't know if you've seen the TV tape of it, probably not, because it's only been a couple days. But the official, as he goes into the television to make the holding call, you can see he's kind of bummed out. Like, he has this look, the place is going wild. You know, they're going to go. You guys are clearly going to go for two. And he's like holding. And look, it ended up not mattering or anything, but it was one of those things because even Collins was like, oh, these Broncos edge rushers, they get so low. They get so low. And I was like, nobody gets. Nobody gets. The guy that get historically low is on the other side of the field right now.
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Von Miller
Yeah, it was a great game, man. And, you know, I'm still kind of wounded from that game. Like, it was a tough week for, you know, Von Miller, the Aggies losing the tu, then, you know, playing my former team, which I'm a huge fan of. It's just when you. When you are such a fan of, like, a team like that, like, you want to beat them, you know, I want. I wanted to win. So, you know, losing to, you know, tu, the Longhorns, the only loss on an undefeated season as the Aggies, that was tough. And then losing to the Denver Broncos, a team that, you know, I have so much love for, but I really wanted to beat him bad. Like, that was. That was tough, too. And one, you know, one little. That batted pass, like, because the guy was open like we had. I got open in the flats. And that batted pass, like, it was. It was just tough. You know, the way. The way we lost. Played an excellent game. The way we lost and just. It was just a tough week for Von Miller. But I'll bounce back and we'll be ready to go versus the Vikings this week.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, let's talk a little A and M here because you know how much your school means to you and that rivalry. And it's. It's great to have this rivalry back again, but bigger picture, a And m headed to the playoff. How do you feel about them?
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Von Miller
I feel great. I think, you know, Coach Elko has done an incredible job, you know, with that team. You know, usually you will see like, you know, some type of, you know, fall off a little bit. We haven't had any of that since Jimbo left.
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You know, Mike, Mike has done an incredible job of just picking right up. He's a great teacher. He's an excellent coach. This defense that we have is solid. I think the jump that we have for Marcel Reid is, has been incredible. Having those two wide receivers, kc, Concepcion, like, it's, it all happened at a perfect time. Marcel was able to run the ball and throw the ball and he's took incredible jumps too. Like last year, he was just like a little scrambler. Now he can scramble, he can throw. He's, he looks comfortable after, you know, in the backfield. You know, the word that they use is moxie. You know, he definitely has that. He has this confidence about him. Like he's not, he's buying time to make a play, not buying Tom to run for his life. And, you know, this defense is great as well. You know, Cassius Howell is one of the best pass rushes in, you know, college football. We got really good corners, really good linebackers. Tyron York, he's been, he's been good for the last, you know, three years. So solid defense, solid offense. And you know, it's sec, you know, made tried and approved. You know, this team is built to win in the sec.
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Ryan Rosillo
I want to finish up with some of the more current day stuff here because, you know, the run with Denver, playing with somebody like Manning, you go up to Buffalo, you've got la, you've got Stafford. And look, Jaden was terrific last year and of course he's been hurt. But is it, you know, because you had Manning like at a different stage of his career. I guess I wonder, like, who you've been most impressed with as far as a teammate at the quarterback position.
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Von Miller
Man, I played with some good ones. Josh Allen, Jaden Daniels, Matthew Stafford, Peyton Manning. I love all those guys like Josh. I would say Josh is probably like my favorite.
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Just personally, like, just my favorite. But Peyton Manning, like, you know, that's just ranking, like, I don't want to have anybody. Like, I love playing with Matthew Stafford too. Like, I love playing with Jaden Daniels. Like, but Peyton Manning, like, it was just, this is my second year in the National Football League. We get the sheriff. It was a sense of urgency. Like, I remember watching him like at OTAs like he'd like drop back and did like the little hitch and you see like the towel and like he had the big shirt like, and he was throwing the ball and it was like sharp. And I was just like blown away. I was like, yeah, we can do it. Like we got Peyton Manning. We can, we can win the Super Bowl. And right, right when he stepped in that organization like his first time like there like it took us from being like a team that just wanted to win a division to let's go, let's go win a Super Bowl. And the second year, the first year was probably our best team. You know, 2012. That was a year with the Mile High Miracle where they the Jacoby Jones catch and the Ravens going to win a Super Bowl. Ray Lewis last year and that was probably our best team. We didn't end up doing it because of that play. The next year we go to the super bowl and we lose to the Seattle Seahawks. It was the whole like a championship offense, a championship defense, what wins, you know, the Seattle Seahawks won that one the next year we wasn't quite as good as the two years before. We were the number one seed though. But we, we lost in the first round. We lost in a division around to the Indianapolis Colts and that was in 2014. They cleaned house, they fired Coach Fox and it's like, what's going on? They hired coach Kubiak. We're like, dang, what we doing? Like we still got a chance to win a Super Bowl. Like this is Peyton Manning last year. He's going to do it. Like we can still do it. And we ended up winning nine games that year within three points or less. So we got 16 games, we win nine of them within three points or less.
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Ended up going to the playoffs. We had a nail biter with the Pittsburgh Steelers, we beat the Patriots and then we go and face Cam Newton in the super bowl and we win that one too. So Peyton Manning, the four years that I played with him were definitely magical. And that would be the quarterback that I would pick. But I love all of those guys though.
- [68:49]
Ryan Rosillo
Did you guys call him the Sheriff? Because I always see the nickname reference and then I never hear it outside of like he certainly wouldn't introduce himself as the sheriff.
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Von Miller
Yeah, the shirt, that's just what he just in Denver like that's just the way he carried himself and you know, especially like on the team, like a day to day work like environment, like he was hands on with everything. Like want the defense to run these place. Like he knew Everybody in the. He knew everybody in the organization, like, from Alfredo our cook, to the janitors, to the trainers to everybody. Like, he knew everybody by first name basis. And it just gave off like this sheriff, the leader of the town type of vibe.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I've heard it was really, really special. Like, you don't understand, like you can watch on Sundays, but you don't understand what somebody like that who understands his responsibility to the organization, but you don't really understand unless you're around it every day of what he can do for a franchise.
- [69:45]
Von Miller
He was more than a quarterback, though. He was definitely more than just a quarterback on game days. He had like an influence on everybody. It was good.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, that's a good way to kind of end this though too, because, you know, when I look at you with Dan Quinn and you were talking a little bit about like, you know, this is somebody that knows that he can trust you, that you can trust him. You know, looking at some of the snap count stuff, like, clearly they don't want to wear you out, which I think you alluded to. Like, hey, I'm gearing up. I'm thinking about 26, but like, where you're at right now, what do you want out of this? What do you want out of next season as you close out your career?
- [70:18]
Von Miller
I want to get deep in the top 10 of sacks. I don't like to say can't, but 200 sacks would be a challenge. You know, I'm at 134 right now. 200 sacks. It'll be a challenge to get there. If I can get. Yeah, 200 sacks would be tough. 200 sacks would be tough by the end of my career this year. 15. Getting the 200 sacks would be tough. Um, but 141 will put me at six. One, one. 41 will put me at six. All time Michael Strahan. And that's. That's only seven sacks away. So I got five sacks left in this. I got five games left in this season. Then playing next year. I can get seven sacks in two years. So I was able to get five up until this point. I can get. I can get seven.
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Ryan Rosillo
For those who want to hear more from Vaughn Miller, I would encourage you to check out the free wrench podcast because you're on it too. Like you're playing and then you're running through the games. You gave you breakdown of Shore's start Miles Garrett move, which still seems like. Do you watch that Miles Garrett move against Trent Williams and get a little jealous?
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Von Miller
No, man. Miles is Just, he's in his own lane. Like, he's a. He's a special player. Like, you know, fellow Aggie.
- [71:30]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
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Von Miller
I've been a fan of Miles for a long time. And you just got to be at peace. Like, I know what I could do.
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He's in a whole different stratosphere.
- [71:42]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
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Von Miller
And you just got to be at peace with who you are and what you can do. And, like, you know, God is very fair and God made Miles the way he did, and God made me the way he did. And, you know, I'm. I'm grateful for that.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, I think he did a pretty good job with you as well. Again, check out the free ranch podcast as we visit with Vaughn Miller, and hopefully you'll come on when you become a gm. All right.
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Von Miller
Hey, I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me.
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You want details?
- [72:09]
Kyle
Fine.
- [72:10]
Von Miller
I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet.
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Booger McFarland
What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine.
- [72:20]
Von Miller
And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible.
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Booger McFarland
Let me tell you what's required.
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Ryan Rosillo
Hello, everyone. This is the ryan Rossello Show. LifeAdvice, LifeAdvice, rrmail.com you already know that because you're this deep into the pod. Or we should do intros for the couples out there. The lovers, life advice for the lovers. That might be a shirt. I don't really blame. We did pretty well on the RSLO hoodie sales thing. You know, I feel good about that, but I. You got to be a particular kind of guy to be rocking that and then have to like, explain it. And then maybe somebody who doesn't know is like, what Is like, who's the guy? I think he is. Like, he's got a logo. And then you're rocking the hoodie because you like the content that much. So anybody that bought one, thank you because, you know, your real one. Yeah, yeah, right.
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Kyle Sirruti
But laid it all on the line.
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Ryan Rosillo
Anybody that was giving me about it, I was like, yeah, I actually get it. That was the original design that we had with Legends. And because I'm an investor in Legends and have known Scott, the founder, for such a long time that it was just like, hey, I want to do something for you. And then they designed the thing. I was like, oh, that's cool. And I gave them out to a bunch of my friends. Then we did like a one off sale of them for Legends a couple years ago, but we didn't make that many of them. You Know, and it's also like, because it's such nice stuff, it's not necessarily the least expensive thing you could ever buy. So a special.
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Kyle Sirruti
We're not talking comfort colors here, you know?
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right, but I mean, we'd probably do a lot better on cover colors. Yeah, but don't you think we'd probably do a lot better on just like some thing that's a little more generic as opposed to pretending I'm like some five star wide receiver signing with Oregon?
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Kyle
Yeah, no, it's a niche product.
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Booger McFarland
No doubt.
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Kyle
Let it.
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Ryan Rosillo
Let it flow, boys. You're gonna let it out right now.
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Kyle
I. I don't have anything to say. Like, I think. Yeah, like, you know, it's.
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Booger McFarland
It.
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Kyle
I, like I said I had bought one beforehand. I know what they're like. I like them playing golf. Am I wearing it, you know, around? Maybe not, you know, hey, but it's. It's a. It's a statement piece, you know, it's also like.
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Booger McFarland
Well, you.
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Ryan Rosillo
But if you wore it around, like, to me, that would make.
- [74:24]
Kyle Sirruti
There's kind of three guys in the world that it makes the most sense to wear it, and you're one of them.
- [74:28]
Kyle
Well, if I showed up today wearing it on the pod, you guys would be like, what the.
- [74:32]
Kyle Sirruti
Would that be weird?
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Kyle
I feel like that'd be weird.
- [74:34]
Kyle Sirruti
That that's. Twitter comments might do that. But I would never.
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Kyle
That's true. I can't. I can't read the Reddit comments, man. It's just. Yeah, it's tough.
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Ryan Rosillo
But anyway. Well, I don't know. Is it cool if I wear it? I mean, I've worn it to the gym a couple times. A couple questions.
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Kyle Sirruti
Yeah, it totally is.
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Kyle
It totally like Steph Curry, you know, he wears his own stuff. Right.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, thank you for comparing me to Steph Curry, but allow me to push back.
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Kyle
Is it not cool for LeBron to wear his logo?
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Von Miller
I don't know.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, Yeah, I think those guys are pretty much like logo tier. I think you have to accomplish more than I have. And I'm not trying to, like, humble this at all. Like.
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Kyle
Yeah, I love people that have a logo, though.
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Kyle Sirruti
Your logo is your name, dude.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, but do I like those people?
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Kyle Sirruti
Gold's Gym, guy in the barbell. You know, that might be a little strange. It's just.
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Kyle
Let it.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, it is. You're right. It is sort of the name. So anyway, like, on the next thing that we do, it'll probably be a little bit more for everyone. How about that? And I Don't know what that is. You know, I mean, would you actually just rock the T shirt with the Ryan Rosilla show on a pocket? You know, like, is that. I would.
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Kyle Sirruti
I like the new logo. I like the colors. Also thought we had some pretty good ideas. I hope that's not just in a wastebasket somewhere.
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Ryan Rosillo
No, it's.
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Kyle
Here's the thing too is, you know, barstool kind of does.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well that stuff. I took a picture of it just in case it. Good.
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Kyle Sirruti
I got it in my notes app.
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Ryan Rosillo
If you ever actually care about doing it. Well, now I really care. Now I think the next launch is just going to be a Kyle approved thing and we're just going to the Kyle line.
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Kyle Sirruti
Yeah, we just paid it, so you don't patronize me. No, I'm not patronizing one thing on a T shirt. I think the merch mech, like, maybe there's room for something, you know, that's all.
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Ryan Rosillo
What if it just said Nephew Kyle, like nameplate on the back and then there's an nk.
- [76:18]
Kyle Sirruti
That's the one you would ram through. That's the one you would ramp through production.
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Ryan Rosillo
No, no.
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Kyle
Well, the other thing too is our guy. Our guy Trig, right. Who does like all the animated, the drawing stuff. He's awesome. He will. He hit me up and after. Because he listens to the show. Listen to the episode was like, hey, like, let me. Obviously, like, you know, we got Black Friday stuff going on, but, like, let me know what you guys want. But I was thinking we. I don't want to rush stuff before Black Friday. If we release our stuff on our own, like at a different time of year, like, maybe we do it, you know, I don't know. March, April, maybe before the NBA playoffs. Like, it's a little. It's our own thing. We can kind of own it a little bit more. It'll be special.
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Ryan Rosillo
Well, that sounds like. I don't know, sounds like you're trying to break off from the company. I don't know if Dave's gonna like that. No, no, no, no.
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Kyle
I'm just saying, like, we would just get lumped into the rest of the barstool stuff, which is fine.
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Ryan Rosillo
We weren't ready. We weren't ready for the full line. Like, I saw some of the true Chiclet stuff and I was like, that's awesome. That thing is sick.
- [77:08]
Kyle Sirruti
Really?
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Ryan Rosillo
Look how good that looks. And then I. I started feeling bad about it.
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Kyle
I got a box of stuff. I don't know how that happened, but.
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Kyle Sirruti
I think Ryan Was that you?
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Kyle
That you.
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Kyle Sirruti
I showed up yesterday and I meant to give you.
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Kyle
That's good stuff. This is a great. I mean, listen, I love this. Love this hoodie. It's great.
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Ryan Rosillo
It looks great.
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Kyle
Looks stuff too.
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Ryan Rosillo
Girl.
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Kyle
That stuff's very popular.
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Kyle Sirruti
Mom threw that extra stuff on your tab too, because I got my Resolo hoodie and then you threw that extra stuff on your tab.
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Ryan Rosillo
Thank you. I think it was just understood. It was like, hey, can everybody get hooked up here on this one? Thanks a lot.
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Kyle
Thanks, man.
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Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, no problem. All right, that's fashion. Let's get to some emails.
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We have one I actually love, so maybe. I don't know if I'll do that one second.
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Yeah, I'll do a pretty basic one first and then.
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We'Ll do this other one second. Because honestly, I don't have anything close to a good answer, but I want to share it with everybody. Life advice. Fluke concert encounter. A fluke encounter from Reddit and a concert. All right. Hey, guys. Love the show. Listening last 15 years or more. Wow. All right. Two hour drive times five days a week. The show's been my favorite, so thank you. Used to go to a lot of concerts, haven't since COVID I've seen Tool a few times. Like that genre alternative. I wanted to drive four hours to see a band, Sleep Token, and it was sold out. Do you like that, Kyle?
- [78:33]
Kyle
That's great.
- [78:36]
Ryan Rosillo
This Friday, Sleep Token. Put the kids to bed and come rock and aside. I'm going to just say this because the reason I watch Snatch. You know the guy that plays Bricktop, he came out. I don't know how old the video is. Is it Brixton?
- [78:52]
You're kind of my London guy because I stayed in a very, very small circumference.
- [78:57]
Kyle
I'm your London guy. No, no.
- [78:58]
Ryan Rosillo
I don't know. Yeah. Malevolence. Hardcore band.
- [79:02]
Kyle
Nope.
- [79:03]
Ryan Rosillo
Well, the actor who plays. What did I say? I said Bricktop, right?
- [79:09]
Kyle Sirruti
Yes, you did.
- [79:09]
Ryan Rosillo
Making sure I had something else in my head for a second. He comes out and introduces those guys and it's unbelievable. I would almost rather have that guy intro my show. So I don't know if we can get to barstool sales. Cameo, maybe what's in the budget. And have Bricktop interested because he introduced.
- [79:29]
Von Miller
Yeah.
- [79:29]
Kyle Sirruti
If you buy a cameo, can you just use it as many times as you want? Or is that like. There's probably a legal thing in there, right? I might be able to.
- [79:36]
Ryan Rosillo
I saw some other guys.
- [79:37]
Kyle Sirruti
Christmas for you, buddy.
- [79:38]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, maybe that'd Be nice. There's some other guy that was like, I would. I like to do a cameo is send him crazy things like, oh, like if you.
- [79:47]
Anything else, 2018, you do.
- [79:51]
All right. All right. Anyway, so sleep token. And it was sold out and I was broke. I did it too many times. I got on the subreddit and someone was advertising a free ticket. We agreed. We met at the venue and our tickets were together, but she was attractive. The next day, I DM her to say thanks, and I asked what else she listens to. We keep messaging back and forth a couple weeks and turned into a texting daily thing. Then to even watching movies at night at the same time while texting about it.
- [80:18]
Kyle
You'll hit play, hit the spacebar.
- [80:20]
Kyle Sirruti
3, 2, 1.
- [80:23]
Ryan Rosillo
I didn't even know that was a thing. I went on a trip with someone and hit the. Hit the video on the plane. And I like, yeah, yeah. Like we were next to each other. This is a long time ago.
- [80:35]
Kyle
But that makes sense, though.
- [80:37]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, but it was. She was like, wait, you already hit play? And I was like, well, yeah. I don't know what she's like, no.
- [80:43]
Kyle Sirruti
It'S part of the routine here.
- [80:45]
Ryan Rosillo
We have to hit it at the same time. Like, do we?
- [80:49]
Kyle
Yeah, because then you. Then you get wandering eyes. If someone's ahead of you, you know, and you keep looking over. Yeah. It might be a curse point for that.
- [80:54]
Kyle Sirruti
You know, like stand seated or something.
- [80:57]
Ryan Rosillo
Window, Window into some of my decisions in life. I'm like, yep, that checks out. It's like, what? Why? Who cares? Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? Figure it out. Yeah, I don't have much, you know, I don't need to set up my snacks then. To even watch your movies. You covered that. It's been five, six weeks of this. I think she likes you, dude. Feels like you're in. Yeah. It would be mostly talking about what's going on in our lives and a lot of joking back and forth, but we've yet to hang out in person. Well, this would be scary, except for the part that you've already met at this concert, which is a very specific kind of band.
- [81:31]
We've yet to hang out in person. We talk about it when it's weeks out. She seems to want to. I've also been out of the game way too long and we never told each other. Yeah, right. Yeah, we can tell. Never tell each other how we feel about what's going on with us. But she does.
- [81:50]
She does all the time want to watch movies and text with Me. And I love every minute of this. So she also just got out of a long term relationship that just ended earlier this year. Worst case, where am I? The rando Reddit guy that's nice and makes you feel comfortable, but not that comfortable. Maybe she's afraid of jumping back in into a possible relationship. I have also gotten into many friend zones in the past. You've gotten into the friend zone because they're waiting for you to get out of the friend zone because they're like.
- [82:15]
Kyle Sirruti
Two pussies circling each other in a bar parking lot that's never going to fucking. There's a lot of shouting. Well, I'm sorry that's just as it is. Yeah, yeah, sorry. It's okay.
- [82:26]
Ryan Rosillo
It's okay to say it, but I've refrained from it because I don't. Yeah, okay.
- [82:29]
Kyle Sirruti
Sorry.
- [82:30]
Ryan Rosillo
No, you do whatever you want.
- [82:31]
Kyle Sirruti
I'm having trouble adjusting. I'm having trouble adjusting to.
- [82:34]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, yeah, nightlife. That's word.
- [82:36]
Kyle Sirruti
I'm the, I'm like a daytime bar guy and I've been, I've been having some, some weird nights out. There's a guy who said he's going to remember my face.
- [82:45]
Ryan Rosillo
So I just.
- [82:46]
Kyle Sirruti
Shouted my name at him.
- [82:47]
Ryan Rosillo
I told him I'm around.
- [82:47]
Kyle Sirruti
I don't know. This is like, I never had to deal with any of this stuff during the daytime when I would go back.
- [82:52]
Ryan Rosillo
Now it's all back up, back up. We'll get to a different crowd. We'll get to you guy who went to the sleep token show. So. Yeah, right. You were a daytime pop in guy. And now because of time zone changes and I don't know that the schedule's all that different. You're, you're out, you're working the nightlife crowds now is what. So you, you're out there.
- [83:14]
Kyle Sirruti
It's just one of my buddies or go out. So it's just, it's really, my, like.
- [83:17]
Ryan Rosillo
Most people really kind of at night.
- [83:19]
Kyle Sirruti
Save the tone. I see that enough.
- [83:22]
Booger McFarland
I'm, I'm doing it.
- [83:23]
Kyle Sirruti
I'm doing the thing now. I'm doing the norm, the thing that everyone else does.
- [83:26]
Ryan Rosillo
So. So you, what are you saying? Like you're getting messed with now? Is this what happened?
- [83:32]
Kyle Sirruti
It was just like I've just got a new enemy already. Like I haven't had an enemy in LA in like, you know, almost the whole time I was there. Now there's a guy who's screaming, he's gonna remember my face.
- [83:41]
Ryan Rosillo
What happened? Give us the timeline.
- [83:43]
Kyle Sirruti
My buddy like was like trying to get into this bar that we were already at.
- [83:47]
Von Miller
And he.
- [83:47]
Ryan Rosillo
What time is that wallet?
- [83:48]
Kyle Sirruti
It's probably like 11. 11pm he lost his wallet. He's like, rummaging through his whole car. It's a mess. There's a guy, like, in his window talking to him. And I'm just like. I see him like, hey, man, what's going on?
- [84:00]
Ryan Rosillo
And he's.
- [84:01]
Kyle Sirruti
He guess he didn't like that I was near him, even though, like, he was. We were both talking to my friend. He's like, what are you doing, man? Get.
- [84:07]
Booger McFarland
Who.
- [84:08]
Kyle Sirruti
Who the fuck is this guy? And I just, like. I said, hey, mind your own business, man. And. And he's like, oh, mind my business. I'm gonna remember your face, man. His friends are, like, carrying him off. And I was just like, this is just. This would have never happened at the Frolic Room, so.
- [84:21]
Ryan Rosillo
But you yelled, my name's Kyle.
- [84:23]
Kyle Sirruti
Yeah, I'll be around. Yeah, you have to remember my face. I'm Kyle.
- [84:26]
Ryan Rosillo
Damn right will be. Yeah.
- [84:29]
That wasn't a lie. I will be around. Yeah, we're around. So I don't know. All right, so let's get back to our guy here. Yeah, man, I mean, you really. You already did a great self evaluation. Here she is waiting for you to make some kind of move. Like, what other invitation do you need here? And let's also face it, too, when there are like, do you know how when a Juggalo meets another Juggalo.
- [84:54]
It'S on? And I'm not calling Sleep token, icp. I mean, I don't know that they have the resume or the reach, but.
- [85:03]
You know, you're into a certain kind of music and you have this connection. She's probably not meeting a lot of men that are necessarily, like, as into some of this stuff. She advertises the ticket. She may have even done that hoping to meet somebody. So, like, what else do you need to have happen here? You need to get out of your own way and straight up say, like, hey, this is my favorite thing. I look forward to it every day. Like, I love this. And you know what? Like, I know you've gone through a lot. Like, this is kind of new for me again. But, like, let's just hang out, you know, without, like, worrying about where it's going or any of that stuff. I'll drive up to meet you. You know, don't say, like, you know, the kind of. The move is like, I'm getting a hotel in town, you know, so I can stay there and then drive Back in the morning. So you're already, like, getting assumptions out of the way. And then who knows? Like, that could be some extra credit for you because he wasn't assuming anything or whatever. And maybe this is challenging for her, but you're getting a lot of great signs and you're aligned in, like, a very specific interest here, where you're probably providing her just conversation, and I don't mean to say it again and be redundant dialogue with somebody. She's probably not meeting a lot of people like you, so give yourself some credit here and fucking, you know, rip off the shackles of doubt.
- [86:16]
Kyle Sirruti
Yeah. I remember being younger, thinking, like, we should hang out sometime was like, enough. And then the girl's like, yeah, we should. It's like, no, you have to be like, hey, what about this Friday? I'm thinking about this thing like, you think that you've done enough. And like, that that might even be pushing your comfort zone, like, where you're like, ooh, going out on a limb here saying, we should hang out sometime. And then when she just fires back with, yeah, totally, and you don't do. And you don't follow up with that, that's how you end up doing the six week, you know, circling. So I think you have to do specifics. And I really like your, hey, I'm getting a hotel. And like, all that stuff. There's, there's plenty of stuff we can build off of that.
- [86:50]
Ryan Rosillo
But the.
- [86:51]
Kyle Sirruti
You got to hit the hole, man. You got. This is a football term.
- [86:53]
Ryan Rosillo
I'm talking here.
- [86:54]
Kyle Sirruti
You got to just, you got, you just gotta, like, you gotta do that. That's the first thing you have to do. You have to put something on the books.
- [87:02]
Kyle
Yeah. Like, you've done the hard part, right?
- [87:04]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. And that's somebody.
- [87:06]
Kyle
There's.
- [87:07]
Von Miller
Yeah.
- [87:07]
Kyle
You know how many dudes listen to this podcast? Like, how do I get that?
- [87:09]
Kyle Sirruti
And you're keeping up.
- [87:10]
Kyle
Can I get her number two?
- [87:12]
Ryan Rosillo
You're not thinking about checking out a snake token.
- [87:17]
Yeah.
- [87:18]
Kyle
So I, I, you know, here's the other thing, too, is like, there's no way you're reading the situation wrong. Like, if you're, if you're, like, staying up together, clicking play at the same time to watch a movie, like, that would be an incredible gaslighting situation from her.
- [87:30]
Ryan Rosillo
You're almost engaged, actually interested.
- [87:32]
Kyle Sirruti
Yeah, you're right, bro. You are right.
- [87:37]
Ryan Rosillo
Mike. You might be emailing her next week about a prenup. Who knows? So go get it.
- [87:45]
All right. This one is unbelievable. It's one of my Favorite emails in a really long time. It's not because the email itself. It's the premise. What this guy is hoping to pull off. Let's get into it. Please leave out details like location and pertinent information. Okay, no problem.
- [88:05]
61195. 26 years old. Pickup comp is a fundamentally deficient lower IQ. Steve Nash in Dallas. I think we're all low IQ than Steve Nash.
- [88:16]
Kyle
So he Steve Nash, but not the iq nor the basketball skills. Got it.
- [88:21]
Ryan Rosillo
Hey, guys are getting more honest with this stuff though. Remember when this first started happening? I don't even know how it happened necessarily, but you know, it's like every guy that was a little thick around the waist was like, Boris, DL. You're like so French. Yeah, we did Johnson.
- [88:33]
Kyle Sirruti
Yes.
- [88:33]
Kyle
Right.
- [88:34]
Ryan Rosillo
Not Magic Johnson, but you get the point. Used to squat four bills for reps. Recently moved into more erg, skiing and rowing. All right. Wow, that's a young age to make that decision.
- [88:47]
What's up, Ryan? Kyle Sirruti. Apologies in advance for the longer email. Here's the situation. How do I convince my long term girlfriend that moving out after living together for two years to live with a group of my childhood buddies for a year isn't a step back in a relationship?
- [89:07]
Kyle
There's not an answer to this.
- [89:09]
Kyle Sirruti
Dude, this is like Ocean's 14. You're gonna need a whole crew to pull this. Oh, man.
- [89:16]
Ryan Rosillo
This is like getting too far in Final Fantasy VII and then being like. Or no. Final Fantasy 10. It's like, no. You just don't have enough hit points built up. Nerd alert.
- [89:24]
Kyle Sirruti
Took the wrong path.
- [89:26]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. You didn't put in the work those trails.
- [89:31]
Kyle
Outside of like hitting up Leo DiCaprio and pulling some sort of inception move where you. You plant the idea in her mind that this is a good idea? I have no idea. Idea.
- [89:39]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. Brain chip.
- [89:41]
Kyle Sirruti
Your friend has to fake like a terminal illness and be like, this is his last wish.
- [89:44]
Booger McFarland
We got six months.
- [89:48]
Ryan Rosillo
There's a thing called make a wish, but for dudes. Yeah. And they're not sick.
- [89:55]
Von Miller
Oh, man.
- [89:56]
Ryan Rosillo
I met my girlfriend senior year of college four years ago. We've been inseparable since. She's an amazing partner. Out of my league. Pictures attached. Saw the pictures. She is probably out of your league, man. But I don't like saying that.
- [90:08]
Kyle
What are you doing, dude?
- [90:09]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, she's gorgeous. She's. One of the pictures is like, incredible. Anyway, incredibly smart, easygoing, overall, great person to build a life with. He also included a graduation picture. So it's like oh, she's also really smart, too. We've enjoyed each other's company so much. We've been living together.
- [90:27]
For the past two years with two other roommates, her friends from college. Wait a minute. Is there something perhaps on the pros and cons list to use that in your argument? Like, well, I lived with you.
- [90:38]
Kyle Sirruti
If you even really want to make this argument. Yes. If you really just.
- [90:42]
Ryan Rosillo
What's the problem with your friends for two years?
- [90:44]
Kyle
Yeah, this is like a Judd Apatow movie from like 2007. Waiting to be like, they both convinced each other to move in with their friends after being. I would watch that movie.
- [90:53]
Ryan Rosillo
Like, I would have wanted to do this. This is something I would have. I would have done, dude.
- [90:58]
Kyle
I still. I'm married with two kids and I'm like, how do I.
- [91:00]
Kyle Sirruti
It's fun to think about.
- [91:03]
Kyle
This is why people buy houses. Like, you know, you see on the Instagram, it's like, oh, you know, if you buy this whole block, right? And you know, everyone's got a house and there's like a community pool and it's like, yeah, like, let's just go in on this. This would be awesome. We could all live together.
- [91:13]
Kyle Sirruti
It's failed town in Texas or something, right?
- [91:15]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, no, I love that stuff. I mean, I'm. There's certain neighborhoods, certain friends of mine that I have, and they all just like, hey, they're at a stage of their life where they all bought houses on a golf course or, you know, they're. Some of the guys are rich enough to have like condos in the city. Maybe that would be just better for everybody. Maybe it'd be better for parenting. Anyway, back to the email. There's a theory working out of my head there, but I don't want to disrupt where we're at right now. All right, so I'm not the most conventional post college setup. I have no complaints. Living with women is great. Relatively clean, proactive about doing housework, chores. Don't mind friends coming over out of the blue for NFL Sundays, pre games before going out, video games, et cetera. It all allows me to max out my 4,401k backdoor Roth, make substantial investments into my personal portfolio. Pretty sweet, right? Sounds great, man. Here's a conundrum. A group of my hometown best friends are all relocating to my city, renting a house together, and want me to join as the fourth roommate. Damn. Dude like myself are all in good careers, relatively focused for being guys in their mid-20s. While I normally wouldn't entertain an Opportunity like this with any other group of guys. Part of me revels in the idea of getting one last hurrah with the fellas for a year before getting engaged and for fully transitioning into a conventional adult living situation a year after party.
- [92:28]
This is not going to work, but anyway. This, however, will require me to convince my girlfriend that blowing up our current setup and moving in with our respective friends is all caps, not a step back in the relationship. I have to know like, did you talk about. Oh, well, it gets worse. For context, we have previously discussed the possibility of moving out of our current spot and settling into a two bed, two bath apartment for us. He's excited about two year old dog. Yeah. So you've already planted this seed that you just. Now it's even harder. While this would be a great setup, the conversation hasn't gone any further than it being a prospective option. Well, I promise you she's thought about it probably more than you have. Am I crazy for wanting to live with my guys? Quick answer. No. As we've all discussed here, back to the email. As we get older, I realize our time together is finite and this is likely the last chance we'll have it all live under one roof. I personally do not see this as a step back in a relationship. We would ideally still live incredibly close to one another. Still spends the same, if not more time together than we do now.
- [93:25]
Kyle Sirruti
You're crazy, dude. You've taken the crazy pill already. That's nuts.
- [93:29]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, that sentence is doing a lot of work.
- [93:32]
Kyle Sirruti
Yeah, Jordan Belfort here.
- [93:35]
Booger McFarland
Just.
- [93:35]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, we still spend the same comma, if not more time together than we do now. Can you come over? No, I just. I just got Bedard on the sabers.
- [93:51]
I'll see you tomorrow. With this in mind. I don't even know how if I should bring this up to her. Part of me thinks she'd be okay with it, but the other more rational part of me tells me I'm stupid for even thinking about asking her about this and it will not go over well. Please let me know what you would do. Would you keep your mouth shut and carry on with your happy little life or make a compelling argument for why we should do this and how it would be impactful to our future plans together. She has a ton of friends in the area who have professed interest in living together in the past, but have never seriously considered it due to our current living situation. Thanks for reading. Big fan of the show. All right.
- [94:26]
Well, I want you to ask solely for the follow up email so Selfishly, I'm going to tell you.
- [94:31]
Kyle Sirruti
Buy a pair of like Ray Ban Metas and just give me like a two minute clip of that. Dude, I just. That's.
- [94:38]
Ryan Rosillo
Do you ask. Let's ask the married guys here. No, no, no.
- [94:43]
Kyle
I mean, no. You could.
- [94:46]
Ryan Rosillo
What?
- [94:46]
Kyle
You could just play it off as a joke, but there's no way it goes.
- [94:50]
Kyle Sirruti
She's smart enough about anything. She'd be like, are you. Wait, hold on a second. Let's just pause. Are you fucking seriously trying to get, you know. No way.
- [94:57]
Kyle
The other thing too is like.
- [95:00]
Girls, females, they have like a timeline on these things. Women. And like it's a bad look in her circle if you did like that.
- [95:11]
Kyle Sirruti
Is like her parents are never social suicide. Friends, parents, cousins.
- [95:17]
Kyle
And I know you don't see it that way, but that it's, it's and it isn't that way. You could love her and want to do all the things. Want to marry, have kids with her.
- [95:24]
Ryan Rosillo
Like they have a dog too.
- [95:26]
Kyle
It is so. It's such a bad look for her that like it's almost disrespectful. I mean it's definitely disrespectful. Even though I think you're like, your intentions. You feel like a pure guy. Your intentions seem good. I get it. But like, this is what golf trips are for, dude. I'm going on one next week. We're going to Tampa. Eight dudes.
- [95:42]
Kyle Sirruti
Hell yeah.
- [95:43]
Kyle
Like, this is why you do these things. Like when you get to a certain age, like you're, you know, you're a little. Seem like a little bit younger. But like when you get a certain age, like these are things you look forward to. You get once a year. You kind of get to reminisce with the boys and that's kind of it. And that's just life. I mean, get an Xbox, like hop on and just like have a couple nights a week and talk. Yeah, like that's like, seriously, that's, that's, that's unfortunately.
- [96:02]
Kyle Sirruti
Share your locations on iPhone. That's kind of fun.
- [96:04]
Ryan Rosillo
We're.
- [96:04]
Kyle Sirruti
We're experarint.
- [96:05]
Kyle
Do any of the other guys have girlfriends either? That's I guess a good question. Like I. They probably are all single too, so this is like, this is a mess.
- [96:11]
Kyle Sirruti
Their lifestyle's gotta be.
- [96:12]
Ryan Rosillo
No.
- [96:12]
Kyle Sirruti
4 dudes aren't moving into a house to rent. If one of them has a girlfriend.
- [96:16]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
- [96:17]
Kyle Sirruti
Or at least a serious one.
- [96:19]
Ryan Rosillo
I want him to ask and also pitch that this will actually make them stronger.
- [96:24]
Kyle Sirruti
It seems like he's really feels like he could have a couple of bullet.
- [96:28]
Ryan Rosillo
Points to throw out, test our relationship more. If it were three of my favorite guys, not only would I ask, I would then break up if not allowed to, and then probably have, like, a moment two years later where it's like, oof.
- [96:42]
Kyle
I was gonna say if this is the girl, like, this is his girl. Like, this is not. You don't.
- [96:45]
Kyle Sirruti
This is why you don't take this step.
- [96:47]
Ryan Rosillo
I think it's his girl.
- [96:48]
Kyle Sirruti
This is why you don't take this step when you're 24 years old, which is what he did.
- [96:51]
Kyle
Right?
- [96:52]
Kyle Sirruti
This was.
- [96:52]
Kyle
It's because this is life, you know?
- [96:55]
Kyle Sirruti
I know. I'm just saying, when you're 24 years old and you're like, this might be the girl, you know, but we're gonna scope her. We're gonna scope each other out for a couple of years before I ask her to marry me. You're 24. I mean, you've only been out of school for 20 for two years, right? So, I mean, you really didn't leave yourself much of a chance to have the living sister. I'm not saying don't date anyone. I'm just saying when you take this thing and you hop on a lease at 24, that's pretty much if this is. If this is who it works out with, that's gonna be your only roommate forever. So this is you kind of. Don't you miss that chance? The fact that he said he's 26, he's been there for two years already, you know, that's. That's one of the drawbacks of committing to a living situation like that, because you cannot. You can't just say, hey, you know, everything will be the same. But I'm just. We'll have different addresses.
- [97:41]
Ryan Rosillo
Now, the problem is, if you do it in a joking manner to, like, soft launch it, she'll see it, and then she'll be like, wait, you're serious. If you were to bring it up again, and then she'll point back to the joke, and it's like, well, you handled it this way. Like, this is one of those scenarios where it's probably whatever you come up with. And I've been thinking here, as I read it, we've done it again. All right? You have to find a way, right? You're sitting there. You have to find a way to at least pitch this to give it the best chance of you getting permission to go ahead and do this. And if you soft launch it and she doesn't really pick up on it and then you revisit it again, then you're going to get penalized for soft launching it. It's like, oh, wait, this whole time you've been serious and you've wanted to do it, so that's probably out. If you went the other route where it was like really funny and she knows your three buddies. And then it's like they do a PowerPoint deck full presentation. Why it's a good idea, all this stuff. They could be right.
- [98:36]
Kyle Sirruti
They kind of like, oh, God, you serious?
- [98:39]
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, yeah, this is. And then everybody's laughing and like they really nail it, you know, maybe rehearse it a couple times. That also could backfire in a huge way because it's like you've been devising this plan and then they. This whole time you've made the decision, this is something you wanted to do. And you didn't even talk about it with me. You talked about it with them first. Like, there's just so many fucking landmines with this thing. So I. I love that you two guys both said straight out, don't even ask.
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Kyle Sirruti
I'm saying some sleepovers, dude, just for.
- [99:05]
Ryan Rosillo
The explorers out there, for the guys that, that want to wander. I want you to ask just so you can tell us how bad it was.
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Kyle
We got some. I mean, I know I have something to lose in this situation. Like it's not. I know it's not going to go well. I don't know. I think it's. Here's the thing too, is like you're in the same city. I know it's not the same thing, but like, you're still young enough where it's like if you spend a night or a weekend over at the, at these dudes houses, like it's. You're going to be able to do that. You know, it's not like you, you can still kind of have the fun and not have to necessarily live there. I know it's not the same. I remember everyone's gonna come at me, but like, you could still like, hey, Friday to Sunday.
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Ryan Rosillo
No one should come at you for saying that. I mean, everything you just said makes a ton of sense. I. I want him. What if she says, yeah, no problem. Is that actually bad? I mean, think about that. What if you get your way and then it's like, oh, you'll be like.
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Kyle Sirruti
Just popping up at the apartment unannounced. Like anything going on here.
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Ryan Rosillo
There's just so many things you can't say because you're gonna like, we get you, man. I get you. Even though I'm so much older than you, I wouldn't want to do this now. Right? But this was something Even in my 30s, like, I toyed with. I know a couple guys, I think they kind of, like, gave up on decent careers just to move in with the cooler friends that we had in our friend group later on in the scenario where I would, like, kind of see the deal and be like, you know what these guys are? Who cares? And now that I'm so much older than. Even back then, it's like, who gives a shit if you're 30? Is you live in a major city and you go, what's the plan? Everybody's dropping their messenger bags off at the sofa and being like, it's Friday. Is it sushi and blow or.
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Booger McFarland
It'S.
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Ryan Rosillo
That's an old line from a radio talk show hosted espn. Cowherd said it once and he got in trouble, and it was just hilarious. He was doing, like, a daily thing. And he goes, you know, he's like, I don't. It was like. It was like a whole Joe buck thing where he was saying he liked that Joe buck wasn't a baseball nerd, and it made him a better announcer because he's basically said, he's not going to watch the pirates on Tuesday. And then cowherd was like, I like that guy's cultured. I want my guys out in the mix. He goes, I don't want you watching pirates baseball on Tuesday. I went, sushi and blow. And they called him in and they were like, hey, that analogy, you're great with them.
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Kyle Sirruti
The line. I think we found the line that.
- [101:26]
Ryan Rosillo
One may not work. And then it was just classic cowherd. He, like, comes in on prepping one day. He's like, what's up? I was like, what's going on? He's like, they didn't like the sushi and blow analogy.
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And then the thing is, the great thing about cowherd is you could just go, like, all right, whatever. Like, yeah, that's not really something to get too upset about. Anyway. Report back. Yeah, these two guys. Look, the vote is 2 to 1. Don't even bother asking.
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Kyle Sirruti
Yeah, the one thing I could think of. It's like, you ever had, like, an idea that makes. That you haven't talked to, like, anyone of consequence about, and you just think it's like, so. And it's. The second you. You tell somebody that, like, matters in your life, they're like, what, are you, crazy? And you've Already planned, like, steps two, three, four of this plan, and you.
- [102:10]
Ryan Rosillo
You get three little scooters.
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Kyle
Oh, dude. I was gonna buy a house in Maine with my buddies after my bachelor party and you. Seven hours. Not that big of a deal.
- [102:17]
Kyle Sirruti
Exactly.
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Kyle
Think of how many. You know, we could all go up. There's five bedrooms. It's on a lake, and you're just like, what?
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Ryan Rosillo
By the way, if you do that in.
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Kyle
Yeah, well, you were invited. That was my basketball. You'd show up. So there you go.
- [102:28]
Ryan Rosillo
That wasn't going to work. The wedding. That one. I feel zero, zero guilt about the wedding, but we've already discussed there's other elements that were going on there. No, you're good. I know you don't care. Listeners care, which, you know, makes. Makes all this worth it. All right, that'll do for the pod today. I think we can't solve all of them. We had some people follow up on the hot tub guy, the creepy Italian guy. We missed on that because plenty of guys were like, have the dude, the husband just show up and be like, hey, wife couldn't make it. Where's the tub? Oh, that's great. We had a lot of people say that we missed on that one. That was really good. So thank you to those.
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Kyle
Yeah, yeah.
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Ryan Rosillo
Hey, look, we're trying to get better every day. You know us.
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Thanks to Kyle. Thanks to Steve. The Ryan Rosillo show, part of the Barstool Network. Please subscribe and check out our good 10 minutes on our YouTube page as well. And we'll be back on Monday, recapping a huge conference championship weekend in college and Danny Cannell. And Danny Cannell going over the rankings where he almost crashed his car, bitching about the rankings, which was. I was like, did he actually do this video? And guess what? He did it. So we'll get to that as well. Thanks for listening.