The SaaS Podcast - Episode 417: CV Partner: From Developer to $5.5M ARR SaaS CEO with Erling Lin

Host: Omer Khan
Guest: Erling Lin, Founder and CEO of CV Partner
Release Date: October 24, 2024

1. Introduction

In Episode 417 of The SaaS Podcast, host Omer Khan interviews Erling Lin, the founder and CEO of CV Partner. CV Partner is a SaaS product designed to help professional services firms manage and showcase their team's resumes and project experiences to secure more bids and proposals. The conversation delves into Erling’s journey from a developer to a CEO, the challenges faced during bootstrapping, the significance of user experience, growth strategies, and the pivotal decision to raise venture capital after a decade of self-funding.

2. Erling's Inspirational Quote

[04:00]
Erling Lin:
"Working on your circle of influence—focusing on what you can change today—has been super helpful. Instead of being frustrated by bigger systems, I concentrate on building my business, and gradually, my influence expands."

3. Founding of CV Partner

3.1 Identifying the Problem

[05:03]
Erling Lin:
"CV Partner is for professional service firms—IT consultancies, management consultancies, engineering firms. We help them manage resumes, CVs, and past projects to tailor and showcase their team effectively for bids and proposals."

Erling founded CV Partner in 2011 after recognizing the significant time and effort consulting firms invested in formatting and customizing multiple consultants' resumes for large project bids. Initial attempts included a B2C resume generator, which failed to gain traction, leading him to pivot towards solving the specific pain points of professional services firms.

3.2 Early Development and UX Overhaul

[10:55]
Erling Lin:
"We hired Nicolai, a UX expert, who completely revamped our product's design and usability. This major design shift became a key differentiator for CV Partner."

Despite building an early version of CV Partner, Erling realized that a developer-centric interface wasn't appealing to customers. Feedback from prospects indicated poor design, prompting the addition of a UX expert as a co-founder. This collaboration led to a more user-friendly and visually appealing product, enhancing customer acquisition.

4. Overcoming Initial Challenges in Sales

4.1 Lengthy and Ineffective Demos

[17:55]
Erling Lin:
"Early sales demos often dragged on for hours, overwhelming prospects. Over time, I learned to streamline pitches, focusing on what customers truly cared about, reducing meetings from two hours to sometimes just ten minutes."

As a developer without sales experience, Erling’s initial demos were exhaustive, often extending beyond customer interest. Through experience and possibly insights from sales literature, he developed the ability to recognize when to conclude a demo, making the process more efficient and less taxing for both parties.

4.2 Building Customer Relationships

[16:20]
Erling Lin:
"We approached the local market, engaging with smaller consultancies open to Lean Startup and Agile methodologies. By continuously refining our pitch based on customer feedback, we maintained open doors for ongoing dialogues and eventual sales."

Persistent engagement with prospects, even after initial feedback, allowed CV Partner to refine its product and sales approach. Erling emphasized the importance of not fearing rejection and recognizing that opportunities for follow-up often arise later.

5. Growth Strategies and Channels

5.1 Conferences as a Growth Channel

[26:24]
Erling Lin:
"Attending and speaking at conferences was pivotal. We connected with similar companies and potential customers by engaging with them during breaks and leveraging our conference presentations to build credibility."

Conferences provided a platform for CV Partner to showcase its product, network with potential customers, and establish authority in the industry. Submitting talks enabled Erling to gain stage presence without incurring high costs, effectively using events to drive growth.

5.2 Inbound Marketing: SEO and Google Ads

[33:55]
Erling Lin:
"Inbound leads from SEO and Google Ads were consistently successful. We focused on optimizing for relevant keywords and creating targeted content, although it required ongoing tweaking to avoid attracting irrelevant traffic."

By investing in SEO and targeted advertising, CV Partner attracted leads organically. This approach complemented conference-based networking and word-of-mouth referrals, creating a diversified growth funnel.

5.3 Word of Mouth

[33:25]
Erling Lin:
"Satisfied employees often carried CV Partner to new organizations when they changed jobs, enhancing our word-of-mouth growth. A great user experience and onboarding process made the system easy to adopt and recommend."

The quality of CV Partner’s user experience fostered organic referrals, leveraging the professional networks of existing customers to expand the user base without substantial additional marketing expenditure.

6. Transition from Bootstrapping to Venture Capital

6.1 Decision to Raise Funds

[06:35]
Erling Lin:
"After ten years of bootstrapping and reaching $4 million ARR, we realized that external capital could accelerate our growth. This transition allowed us to expand faster than relying solely on revenue."

Bootstrapping provided financial discipline and organic growth but eventually limited the company's ability to scale rapidly. Recognizing the opportunity to expedite expansion, Erling opted to raise venture capital.

6.2 Impact of Raising VC Funding

[45:31]
Erling Lin:
"Raising VC funding aligned our ambitions with investor expectations. The support from our Norwegian VC has been invaluable, providing professional board meetings and strategic insights that have propelled our growth."

Securing VC funding introduced new dynamics, including increased expectations for growth and scalability. However, the support and expertise from investors facilitated more structured and accelerated expansion efforts.

6.3 Adapting Team and Operations

[44:30]
Erling Lin:
"Transitioning from a bootstrapped team to a larger organization required hiring customer success personnel in new geographies to ensure effective onboarding and localized support."

Expansion into new markets necessitated strategic hiring to manage regional operations, maintain customer satisfaction, and support the growing global customer base.

7. Lessons Learned and Best Practices

7.1 Sales Efficiency

[24:17]
Erling Lin:
"Focus on the main workflow and value of the tool during demos. Avoid overcomplicating the presentation with unnecessary features. Understand the client's needs and tailor the demo accordingly."

Erling emphasizes the importance of delivering concise, value-driven demos that address the specific pain points of prospects, avoiding the temptation to showcase every feature indiscriminately.

7.2 Importance of Delegation

[50:36]
Erling Lin:
"Delegation is crucial. As soon as you figure out how to do something, delegate it. It might take longer initially, but over time, it becomes efficient and frees up your capacity to tackle bigger challenges."

Delegating tasks effectively allows leaders to focus on strategic initiatives, fostering scalability and operational efficiency within the organization.

7.3 Maintaining a Growth Mindset

[50:06]
Erling Lin:
"Successful founders need to reinvent themselves regularly. Roles evolve from coding to sales to strategic leadership, requiring adaptability and continuous personal development."

Adaptability and the willingness to evolve are essential traits for founders navigating the multifaceted challenges of growing a SaaS business.

8. Lightning Round Highlights

8.1 Best Business Advice Received

[48:43]
Erling Lin:
"Take control of the pipeline. Shift from being reactive to proactively pursuing opportunities, enabling more consistent and manageable growth."

8.2 Recommended Book

[49:21]
Erling Lin:
"The Revenue Architecture by Jacko Founder Coy. It contextualizes SaaS models and provides a framework to assess and implement growth strategies effectively."

8.3 Attribute of a Successful Founder

[50:06]
Erling Lin:
"The ability to reinvent yourself regularly, adapting to evolving roles and challenges within a growth company."

8.4 Personal Productivity Habit

[50:36]
Erling Lin:
"Delegation. Freeing up personal time by entrusting tasks to others enhances overall productivity and operational efficiency."

8.5 Fun Business Idea

[51:14]
Erling Lin:
"Integrating tech and AI into the food and wine industry. While not lucrative, it's a passion project close to my heart."

8.6 Fun Fact

[51:34]
Erling Lin:
"I own a 250-year-old farm in Norway—it's my digital detox, allowing me to reconnect with nature and unwind from the digital world."

8.7 Passion Outside Work

[52:15]
Erling Lin:
"Food and wine. I'm passionate about exploring wine regions, grape varieties, and integrating technology into this domain someday."

9. Conclusion

Erling Lin’s journey with CV Partner underscores the importance of identifying a genuine market pain point, prioritizing user experience, iterating based on customer feedback, and strategically leveraging growth channels. His transition from a bootstrapped developer to a VC-backed CEO highlights the balance between organic growth and accelerated expansion facilitated by external funding. The insights shared offer valuable lessons for SaaS entrepreneurs aiming to build, launch, and grow their businesses effectively.

For more information about CV Partner, visit cvpartner.com. To connect with Erling Lin, find him on LinkedIn or at erlingvpartner.com.

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