Duck Dynasty's "Big Dirty Secret": 34 Years of Marriage & The Price of Fame

Summary

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Episode: Duck Dynasty's "Big Dirty Secret": 34 Years of Marriage & The Price of Fame
Date: February 11, 2026
Guests: Willie and Korie Robertson
Host: Sage Steele

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Episode Overview

In this engaging, heartfelt episode, Sage Steele sits down with Willie and Korie Robertson of Duck Dynasty fame for an unguarded conversation about marriage, family legacy, faith, and the unforeseen burdens of fame. The Robertsons reflect with humor and candor on 34 years of marriage, the phenomenal rise (and price) of their TV stardom, the cultural impact of their work, and how authenticity and faith have been essential to saving their family and shaping the next generations.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. Marriage: 34 Years of Growth and Grit

• Their Early Years:

  • Willie and Korie married young (ages 18 & 19), navigating different family backgrounds and early struggles together.
  • Telling the story of their engagement, including the classic “parents do not approve” drama, fierce debates, and ultimately, mutual respect (43:37–48:40).
  • “We had to fight for it and say, like, okay, this is really what we want. And whenever times got hard, I think in the years that came, it was like, hey, we fought for this.” — Korie Robertson (48:13)

• Balancing Differences:

  • Their families approached life and faith similarly, but everything else was different — a major adjustment for a young couple (57:53).
  • Ongoing work in family businesses, learning from one another, and eventually combining the best traits of both upbringings into their own household (58:05).

• Secrets to Longevity:

  • "It's not like everything's perfect... but it's like continually coming back together and choosing one another over and over again." — Korie (112:42)
  • Humor, shared values (faith, family, ducks!), vulnerability, and giving each other space to grow and change.
  • Sweet anecdotes about Willie's real love notes, enduring affection, and the fun of doing life (and work) together (113:06–115:36).

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2. The Duck Dynasty Phenomenon & Price of Fame

• Origins & Sudden Popularity:

  • They describe the gradual build-up (from VHS tapes to hunting shows to A&E's Duck Dynasty), and the surreal moment when fans began flooding their warehouse, forcing them to buy surrounding properties due to the crowds (03:28–06:04).
  • “Whenever the show happened... thousands and thousands of people just started showing up.” — Korie (05:25)

• Appeal of the Show:

  • The Robertsons credit their faith, relatability, multi-generational format, and genuine humor for the show's widespread success (06:38–08:17).
  • “I think the faith was very important... the fact that we ended the show with a prayer. There were tons of people who appreciated that. That was so unusual.” — Willie (06:38)
  • “Most reality shows are like a carnival. Nobody, like, who does that?” — Korie (07:49)

• Cultural Shift:

  • The family’s show offered a rare moment of wholesome, intergenerational television in an increasingly fragmented streaming world (10:31–11:05).
  • “It was actually the last time... people would actually watch TV together.” — Willie (10:31)

• Downside of Fame:

  • Loss of privacy, churchgoers turning into fans, wild crowds, and the difficulty maintaining “normal” relationships with longtime friends (18:52–19:34; 61:30–65:33).
  • “It is difficult... people we know now are literally global, because they understand... what it’s like to live with this kind of recognition.” — Willie (61:57)
  • Even mundane errands (grocery shopping) become spectacles (65:07–66:44).

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3. Parenting, Legacy, and the Power of Entertainment

• Entertainment Shapes Culture:

  • The Robertsons realized their lifestyle was shaping public values—prayer before meals, family dinners, faith, even the rise of beards in popular culture (14:31–16:14).
  • “What we’re watching is shaping us.” — Korie (16:14)

• Responsibility in Media:

  • Their decision to stay in entertainment is rooted in the “mission field”—the conviction more Christians must enter media to offer light and hope (16:14–17:46).

• Impactful Moments:

  • Fans often approach them, sometimes in tears, recounting how Duck Dynasty brought families together, inspired conversions, or helped viewers through loss (15:01–15:46).

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4. Faith as the Anchor

• Faith Under Pressure:

  • Fame, money, and success severely tested their faith, but ultimately deepened it (20:20–21:11).
  • “My faith today is far more deeper than before... Would you be as faithful if you had way more money? If everybody knew who you were?” — Willie (20:20)

• Church Life & Challenges:

  • Fame brought disruption to their home church community — from welcoming worshipers to mobs and cameras, requiring emotional and spiritual boundaries (18:52–20:20).

• Authenticity over Preaching:

  • They intentionally kept Duck Dynasty from becoming a "religious" show, relying on natural moments (like prayers at meals) to share faith without alienating viewers (85:54–87:17).
  • “We didn’t try to go too far with it... Christians want to try to put too much in there... you lose the entertainment value... We let it be fun; it’s a prayer.” — Willie (85:43–86:19)

• Generational Shift and Hope:

  • They see promise in the next generation's spiritual hunger, honesty, and craving for something true (93:25–94:54).
  • “Young people are really searching for that. I have a lot of hope for this next generation.” — Korie (93:38)

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5. Family Dynamics, Food, and Everyday Life

• Food & Family Traditions:

  • Willie’s passion for grocery shopping and cooking as a tool for keeping the family close—rotating meals, “tiny meals” for just the two of them, and gathering everyone around the table (66:02–68:27).
  • Light-hearted “food snobbery” born from years of hunting, fishing, and appreciating quality and freshness (77:56–79:00).
  • “I did try, Mom. Corey cannot cook. And she goes, I told you, that’s what you’re gonna get when you marry a skinny girl!” — Willie (76:47)

• Humor & Healthy Competition:

  • The couple’s legendary family game nights, competitive streaks, and stories of tears over Scattergories and Monopoly (36:00–38:14).

• Hunting, Clean Food, and the Circle of Life:

  • Candid talk about hunting, processing wild game, and how this ties to faith and appreciation for God’s creation (79:17–83:37).
  • “It's the circle of life. It just feels so good to be able to provide for your family in that way.” — Korie (81:13)

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6. Parenting and Grandparenting Amidst a Changing World

• Navigating Technology:

  • Willie points out parents' hypocrisy over screen time, stressing parents should model the behavior they desire from their kids (98:19–99:21).
  • “If you’re gonna lay that rule down... you have to commit to that as well.” — Willie (98:56)

• On Raising Faithful Kids:

  • Encourages authenticity, consistent values, and pointing children to something bigger than themselves (faith in God) rather than mere achievement or sports (92:20–96:26).
  • “You have to live it out. You can’t just say it... they’ll see what’s really important.” — Willie (95:31)

• Grandkids and Legacy:

  • Now with nine grandkids (and twins on the way!), the Robertsons feel a renewed mission—passing on deep roots and values across generations (102:13–104:34).
  • “Those grandkids are very physical reminders that we need to pass something on.” — Korie (104:02)
  • Five generations currently live on their property—a living family legacy.

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7. Grief, Redemption, and the Power of the Gospel

• Impact of Phil Robertson:

  • A tribute to Willie’s father, Phil, whose spiritual awakening rescued the Robertson family from destruction (104:45–107:17).
  • “Had it not been for faith, none of this would have happened. My family would have split up... and now we’re talking about 50 years later.” — Willie (104:45)

• Hope in Suffering:

  • "There was more joy, way more joy than sadness [at Phil's passing]... he did it. He’s there." — Willie (91:27)
  • The Robertsons see their continued public presence as a means to share this hope and help others.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the show’s cultural impact:
  “We saw how entertainment shaped culture through our show... It was shaping culture in a much bigger way.” — Korie (16:14)
• On authenticity in faith:
  "We’re not gonna be ashamed about this, because it’s the whole reason. Yes. Everything we have, we have now." — Willie (107:18)
• On a life well-lived:
  “All we talked about was the people that he affected in his life. The people who were there, ‘were it not for your dad, I wouldn’t be here.’” — Willie on his father’s funeral (115:36)
• On marriage:
  “We’ve allowed each other to change together and grow together... continually coming back together and choosing one another over and over and over again.” — Korie (112:42)
• On generational responsibility:
  “We need to not let the things that are important to our family die with us.” — Korie (104:12)
• On being role models:
  “Thank you for guiding and for leading and for being role models in the best possible way and for being vulnerable and real. We need more, but there’s never gonna be anybody else like you.” — Sage Steele (120:08)

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Highlighted Segments (Timestamps)

• Their rocky engagement & marriage origins: 43:37–48:40
• Surge in fame after Duck Dynasty’s debut: 03:28–06:04
• Family and humor — game nights gone wrong: 36:00–38:14
• Faith, mission, and the power of Christian entertainment: 17:16–21:02; 85:43–87:17
• Parenting & modeling values in a tech-heavy world: 92:20–99:21
• Passing the torch — multi-generational legacy: 102:12–104:34
• Tribute to Phil Robertson’s legacy: 104:45–107:17

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Episode Tone & Language

The entire episode is marked by warmth, good-natured humor, deep honesty, and the matter-of-fact earthiness that made the Robertsons beloved. Korie and Willie gently poke fun at each other, reflect openly on mistakes, and circle every conversation back to faith, family, and finding hope through adversity. Sage matches their energy, blending admiration with relatable anecdotes. The result is a conversation that feels as welcoming as a meal in the Robertson home: familiar, nourishing, and, above all, real.

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For fans or newcomers alike, this episode offers an inside look at the real people behind the beards, laughter, and prayers, and holds lessons on resiliency, faith, and the enduring strength of family.

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[Willie Robertson]

At card games. Maybe you'd be crying every day.

[Korie Robertson]

Oh, he used to make me cry at card games when we were dating. Yes, say I'm sorry.

[Willie Robertson]

I'm not apologizing for you being stupid.

[Korie Robertson]

Well, how do you think you're gonna get down?

[Host/Interviewer]

Guess what? I was obsessing over your pictures. Can I show you my favorites? Yes, actually, you posted it. Look, this is my favorite.

[Korie Robertson]

And people just started showing up and it was insane.

[Willie Robertson]

Television is nothing more than telling stories.

[Korie Robertson]

It was such a powerful moment for us because we saw how entertainment shaped culture through our shows.

[Willie Robertson]

Most reality shows are like a carnival. Free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. These ungodly people are scared to death of dying. And then they all die. My father just passed away this past summer and there was more joy. That man talked about every day of his life, about when we leave this earth and what's next. And so that hopefully should create a different way you live your life. So we've got to show that and show that to people who are just in the dark and blind by it.

[Korie Robertson]

They have one last big knockdown drag out he and my parents, and he's.

[Willie Robertson]

Like, do you even have a plan? Do you have any sort of plan in life? Where do you plan on living? With my daughter. And I said, well, I reckon I'll pull a trailer up behind Phil's house and we'll live there for free.

[Host/Interviewer]

When you think back to when the show began, and by the way, for about 15 I have did not watch any television except sports, because I worked at ESPN and that's all I did, Sports and three kids.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

So I never watched it. I kind of like that in some ways, just because, like, I'm sure when people come up to you, it's like, what about this, this, this, this? I'm like, no, I'm learning backwards. And I've discovered you more because of what you've done since and faith, especially as my faith has grown. So that's why I was so interested in doing this.

[Korie Robertson]

But.

[Host/Interviewer]

But when you look back at that time and starting off and how quickly it happened, like, overwhelming. Like, how would you describe that time where it just. It took off?

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. In some ways we look at it and I think you see how God prepared us and gave us like, a little bit more. A little bit more to where, like we had a show on the Outdoor Channel before our. For our show on A and E. And so we started becoming like known in the outdoor world, in that world. So if we go to like the trade shows in that world, we were known and people kind of knew who we were. And there was so there was like a little bit of like build up videos for you.

[Willie Robertson]

Before that, VHS tapes.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, before that we made.

[Willie Robertson]

So you were on camera, you're telling stories. It was essentially what YouTube and everything is now. It was that form of, you know, you pay 20 bucks and you'd get the season. The duck hunting season. Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

So we look back and see how God, like prepared and gave us like a little bit more. A little bit more, A little bit more. Kind of trained us and prepared us. But whenever the show happened, I remember whenever we had filmed, you know how you do you film a year before and they edit and all this kind of stuff. So you're doing kind of all that and you just don't know. Like, most shows fail. Most shows, you know, make a few pilots or make an early season and that's it, they're done. So we were in that space of like, what? We don't even know how to prepare. I remember telling Willie, like, should we buy more duck calls? Like, are we going to sell more duck calls? Like, what's going to happen? He's like, I don't know. We don't know. You just can't.

[Willie Robertson]

I said, no. He actually said, you don't need to buy more.

[Korie Robertson]

He said, no.

[Willie Robertson]

And I was like, nobody's going to buy duck calls.

[Korie Robertson]

I think we're going to sell more duck calls. I was like, I feel like we're going to we need to buy some more inventory here. And he was like, no. And so we had no idea the show came out. And I remember whenever. Just people started showing up at our warehouse, we didn't have. We didn't sell. We have a store. We were just.

[Host/Interviewer]

No brick and mortar.

[Korie Robertson]

No. Nothing at all. Like, we just had a warehouse for that.

[Willie Robertson]

We sold. We sold two stores. So we were just a manufacturer.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

So we didn't sell retail. I mean, we sold online, but we didn't sell, like, have a retail brick of oil. Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And.

[Korie Robertson]

And people just started showing up, and it was insane. I mean, Willie has a video of it from that time period. I'm so glad you captured that, because it was like. I mean, we had to buy all the property around us because people were parking in everyone else's, like, yards and thousands. Thousands of people just started showing up.

[Willie Robertson]

You were not.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, my goodness.

[Willie Robertson]

It was a phenomenal.

[Korie Robertson]

When we would pull into the warehouse every day, it felt like you were going in a parade.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

At one point we had drive through people. And remember, we were parking in the warehouse. We had to bring our vehicles inside.

[Korie Robertson]

You had to park inside because you couldn't get out.

[Willie Robertson]

You couldn't get out.

[Korie Robertson]

There were so many people out there. It was crazy. So that part of it just happened so fast. And also, I feel like. I feel like God kind of like lifted us and carried us, because at the time, it didn't feel that weird. We just did it. Now looking back, I'm like, that was crazy. That was insane.

[Host/Interviewer]

Well, you had no choice.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. You think you were like.

[Host/Interviewer]

And then you just have to. But to look back, what do you think it was that, I mean, made people go to that level? Like, it was okay, people again in the world knew you. But then it was obsession in a great way, business wise.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

What do you think that Turning Point was?

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah, I think it was a combination of a lot of things. I think it was. I think the faith was very important. I think the fact that we ended the show with a prayer. There were, you know, tons of people in this country and really all over the world who appreciated that. That was so unusual.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

You didn't see prayers on the end of shows. You know, that wasn't. And so they. And they. They really resonated with that was like, ah, here's somebody that. I think we were very down to earth and relatable to people. So it wasn't like, we weren't. We weren't in Hollywood and we weren't, you know, look at us. I mean, so it's like they were like, oh, that. You know, and then people. Because it was a kind of a three generation show. You could, you could find somewhere in that generation where you found yourself. My dad's just like that. My uncles, I have one just like that. My wife says that to me all the time. My kids. And so all these people were just finding super relatability to which I don't think they found a lot of that. When you watched other TV shows or even reality shows. Yeah, most reality shows are like a.

[Korie Robertson]

Carnival you're watching because it's like a train wreck.

[Willie Robertson]

Nobody, like, who does that. And so this one was like, oh, wow. And I think it was a lot of the things that we do. I think the things were interesting. I think living off the land and eating squirrels or catching frogs, it's something, you know, a lot of people were like. So you were appealing to that side as well.

[Ad Narrator]

And.

[Willie Robertson]

And I think it was. The nature of it was very funny.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And that's so hard to get. It's hard to make stuff funny, you know, I mean, look at most tv. I mean, look at. It's not funny, you know, and so this forced laugh track or something being super funny. And even though I'm on it and was a part of it, when I watch it, I just die laughing. I laugh out loud.

[Korie Robertson]

We've gone back and watched some. We were like, this was actually funny.

[Willie Robertson]

No, it's funny. And I don't even know. A and E did realized they didn't know that it was gonna be funny. They thought it was gonna be like swamp people. We were like, you know, woman, go back. You know.

[Korie Robertson]

And speaking of the first time, we actually went out to LA to like meet with this production company about the show and an idea for the show. And they said they were like, well, here's how an episode could look, you know, and they bring this like, guy in, this like, young guy that had like written up a first episode and he was like, so like the women folk get up at 4am yes, yes. And they like have been varmint hunting. They bring in their varmints, possum hanging.

[Willie Robertson]

Up on the porch, you know.

[Korie Robertson]

And I was like, I'm not. Not. These women folk, like, I think you got the wrong. You got the wrong show, the wrong family here.

[Willie Robertson]

These women folk are not their idea of like, how.

[Korie Robertson]

How do people in Louisiana. Yeah, yeah. You know, we're like, no. And then the production, the owner of the production was like, yeah, scrap.

[Willie Robertson]

That's Terrible. When he just played Matt saying, this is awesome.

[Korie Robertson]

This is perfect.

[Host/Interviewer]

He's the one that told him probably.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah, yeah, fire that guy.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. But I do. I think people were looking for something. It was definitely a time people were really looking for something hopeful and positive and that the whole family could sit on a watch. It gotten to where. Which now we're even more extreme to that. But we were getting to this point of, like, it seems tame at that time now, but this time where it's like everyone is like, mom was in one room watching Real Housewives and dad was here watching sports, and the kids were watching this and then this show that, like, the whole family could come around and watch together. It was intergenerational. It was funny for everyone. It was clean, it was wholesome. And it was this. Something that people were like, oh, this is what we actually were looking for and didn't even know we wanted.

[Willie Robertson]

And it was actually the last, if you think about it was the last time we were gonna have where people would actually watch TV together. This is before the streamers. Before streamers now. So the records we set. And they'll never be beaten because nobody watches TV unless it's sports, you know, that's it.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

I mean, you don't. What brings you together. And now everybody's separate. She watches her thing. Everybody's watching on their own. Nobody has cable, so.

[Host/Interviewer]

Exactly.

[Willie Robertson]

And so this is still. You still have cable, people still.

[Korie Robertson]

Wednesday night, everyone came together and watched it.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah. And if you missed out, you were like, oh, did you see the show last night? And there's just so few shows like that now. Like, there's just stuff doesn't bring you together. So we actually were at a great point in time to where that happened. And we still. Because even jumping. We're back in the business now in tv, it's a whole different.

[Korie Robertson]

So different.

[Willie Robertson]

It's so different. I mean, it's. It's like I can literally just feel the ground crumbling beneath of stuff that used to be just like. So, I mean, think about network and I mean, all that stuff is just. It's crumbling and changing just constantly.

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Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

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[Host/Interviewer]

I think Covid was a big turning point, you know, when all of a sudden people realized, oh, let's hurry up and get this out, because people have nothing else depending on where you live in the country. They're stuck on this. And so let's get this. And then Netflix, hbo, like, all of it just completely blew up. And that's also when, as parents, I had, my kids at the time were like, 13, 15, 17. And that's where a lot of people lost our kids because that's all they had. And that's how they communicated with their friends.

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[Host/Interviewer]

Goodness sake, which is a whole other debacle. Right, Right. But you lose them in that. You don't know what they're watching.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Certainly not what really changed.

[Willie Robertson]

But also, mom and daddy are falling apart, as that was the problem. The problem was mom and dad weren't like, oh, good, that's the anchor. They're losing their minds, too, because this is affecting them mentally and socially and at work. I mean, all these things.

[Host/Interviewer]

And you guys had ended at that point. We had ended at the time.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. We ended in 2017.

[Host/Interviewer]

So people watching reruns, but it wasn't like the Wednesday to bring them together for the original show.

[Korie Robertson]

And I will say, I think this was. It was such a powerful moment for us because we saw how entertainment shaped culture through our show, because, I mean, we had this as a comedy. You know, it was like a sitcom, a family sitcom. But it affected people in ways. I mean, people come up to us still, like, in tears about what the show did for them, how it. They watched it with their, you know, dad on his deathbed, or how my husband became a Christian because of watching your show. And it was this, like. This powerful.

[Willie Robertson]

Like last night.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, Literally.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Still just, you know, because he saw, you know, real men who loved Jesus, you know, and it was this, like, for us, it opened our eyes to the power of entertainment and how it is shaping our culture. And, you know, for us, even in our home, it changed how we watch tv because we were like, oh, what we're watching is shaping us. And it first started, it was like, oh, all of a sudden, people started growing their beards and people dressed like them for Halloween, and, you know, little. Little things like that. But you're like, oh, no. It's shaping culture in a much bigger way than this. And people started saying, we say a prayer before our meal now. Because your family does. We never did that before. My kids won't even let us eat without saying a prayer because your family did that, or my son started up there.

[Willie Robertson]

Cory. The fact that we sat down to eat together, that is more rare than.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's not heartbreaking.

[Willie Robertson]

Nobody eats together. Everybody's just grabbing food on the way, and you're not having this time. And so a lot of people were just like, oh, man, when's the last time we actually just had a meal? You know, you got to go back to Christmas, you know, or Thanksgiving. So it's just. That was so that. And at the time, we didn't realize that was unusual is that people just sit down and actually have a meal.

[Korie Robertson]

Together, you know, so really, I mean, that's why we're still in entertainment now, because we were like, whoa, entertainment is. And I actually. I heard a speaker one time, he was talking about how it used to be that, like, school, education, the church, like the government, like, all these kind of things had a similar kind of effect on people. He's like, now all these things are like tiny hills in the shadow of the mountain of entertainment because of how much time we all spend consuming entertainment today. Podcasts and all of that. And so that's really why our family, we never got out Once we got in, we were like, wow, this is actually an. You know, it means to point people to Jesus, and we need to be here. And there's a lot of Christians that are scared to be in entertainment because there's this, like, perception of darkness. And when we did it, we first signed up to do a reality show. I mean, people were like, your kids are gonna end up on drugs and you're gonna get divorced. Like, what are you doing? You know, it was like, don't do it. Like, what? That's. You know, we're like, no. Like, we need. We need to be in entertainment. Like, we need.

[Willie Robertson]

We were like, if it's not us, then who's got the slides? You know, who's got the slots? I mean. I mean, if you think about television as we used to think about it, like, there's only 24 hours, and everybody. You know, ESPN's competing with a and E, and they're competing with ABC and cbs, you know, and so you've got only. So who's gonna. Who's in the slots? And as we looked at it was like, well, most of it's garbage or dark or just, you know. And so we thought, if not us, who else? Who else will this be?

[Host/Interviewer]

Exactly.

[Korie Robertson]

So it did become a real mission for our family, so we stayed in it, you know, and when you feel.

[Host/Interviewer]

The impact that you being open about your faith has, like, if you're ever questioning things along the way, I'm sure there were, because, I mean, your privacy, like, your whole lives completely changed, and you feel what God is doing not just in other people's lives, but in your lives at the same time. How did your faith grow, change during those years?

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, I think that was a whirlwind, you know, so we had to really rely on what we had, like that grounding in those deep roots. And so I'm so thankful that we stayed in our hometown. We stayed. We had our church family. We had some of those things that were already deep. But, you know, it was hard. Like, there was a lot of. We were so busy. It was a whirlwind church got different because then all of a sudden, people showed up.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah, it was.

[Korie Robertson]

People were there because. Yeah, yeah, fans knew where our church was, so they showed up. There would be cameras in the parking lot, you know, so you're, like, in.

[Willie Robertson]

A back room waiting for everything to get started, and then you have to come out.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, it just.

[Host/Interviewer]

When do people look at you differently?

[Willie Robertson]

12 people come down during the service.

[Korie Robertson]

Ye stop during the service, during church. 100%. Yeah.

[Ad Narrator]

And then.

[Host/Interviewer]

You can't be rude.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, you can't. Yeah, everybody's looking. And then it was like, all the other people that you've known all your whole life that are sitting there are now. They're kind of like, oh, that's cool. But also, that's rude. Weird. You're like, I'm not.

[Korie Robertson]

You know, and then you get criticism from the church of, like, separate. You know, and so it was hard. I think that we're so grateful that we had those deep roots, but there was a having to, whenever the show ended, of, like, okay, find ourselves again in it and, you know, and see, like, a healing. Like, I remember being like, okay, I feel like I'm dry inside. You know, I need some water. Like, spiritual water. Because it was a lot of just, like, pouring out during that time period. And so it was hard on us. I mean. But we both came from families of faith, and so we never lost it. We never lost our faith. We stayed very rooted in it, but we had to be really intentional about that. I would say.

[Willie Robertson]

I'd say my faith today is far more deeper than before, the whole Duck Dynasty experience, because, one, you didn't know as much. So perhaps it's a little easier when it's like, life is pretty simple and you've got the things you're dealing with, and then you throw in, well, would you be as faithful? Kind of like. Reminds me of Joe. Would you be as faithful if you had way more money? Would you be as faithful if everybody knew who you were? If everybody was telling you how great you are or how terrible you are? And so you start adding those layers in, and then it really gets tested during your life, you know?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And do you really believe this?

[Korie Robertson]

Are you going to stay even when you have the world at your offer? Like, you could do this or this or that. Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Would you be as. You know, especially when you're vulnerable and you're, you know, so you're trying to do all this. I think the hardest thing for me was, like, was it if we just did television? If it was like, okay, how about the next five years, y' all just do tv? And we'd be like, oh, that's amazing. It'd be great. You know, you're doing television while you're also running the whole business that we poured everything into to run this business, which is now growing at an unsustainable rate. We don't have enough people. I'm having to hire people. I'm having to interview people in between Filming, you know, the show, the setting is the office. So all that's come on top of what we're trying to run this business. I got people out there, you know, on the productions going, okay, cut the phones. I remember they'd cut their phones off. They would unplug the company phone and shut it down. And no tape guns.

[Korie Robertson]

I'm like, we're trying to run a.

[Willie Robertson]

New 1,000 orders to ship today. And you're in our warehouse trying to. They're like, well, we have to film the TV show.

[Host/Interviewer]

So the hardest part, kids who were.

[Korie Robertson]

In middle school and we had all.

[Willie Robertson]

These kids who were like, in school insane, you know, and then all their lives are being so. It was so hard because you wanted to focus on them going, well, how are you dealing with this in seventh grade? How are you dealing with this in fourth grade? You know, because now everybody's like, I just saw you. I mean, they're seeing them, they're seeing each other on television. And so, yeah, all that at the same time, again, with the media, with the promotion of what. Everybody's going, you know, the powers that be are going, okay, we need you in New York. You gotta, you know, we need you to do the late night shows. We need you to do this. Good Morning America is wanting you do this. And we. And it's like, this is what you have, you know, our public, like, this is where you want to be and this is, you know, you're hot right now, so we gotta just go, you know, and you just keep going and going and going and going and it never stops. It never. Yeah, Everywhere you go, you're so recognizable.

[Host/Interviewer]

You guys don't blend in.

[Willie Robertson]

I got stared at before, but probably em's like, who is this guy? I was at daytona, this is 2013. So this is the height of the show. Had two security guys who were like, ex CIA. These guys had like khaki pants and white shirts and were like super badass. Like, telling me they were the ones who go into, like, Haiti and grab, you know, Americans out of bad situations. And so we're walking around, the guy looks and he goes, he said, I've only seen the reaction people are having to you. I've only seen it in one other person I've been with. And he said, I was with Bruce Springsteen last weekend. He said, the only person I've seen is Clint Eastwood had that. Where people, these people, I mean, when they see Starstruck, especially at a nascar, you know, that's our people. Just when they see you, I guess because of the nature of, of the show and how we come across.

[Korie Robertson]

I think that was part of it too.

[Willie Robertson]

Because they want to come grab. Like if I saw them come up and like touch you, people come up and look at me like, Willie, I mean, this guy's like a Samoan dude. I was at the airport, he's giant. He says, willie. And he comes up like this. And I can. And I said, hang on. I said, I don't know what you're fixing to do, but realize that you know who I am. I do not know who you are. Because I was like, he's fixing that. Pick me up and just bear hug me. And I've had people so they. But they feel like they know you. And if you think about it like you've been in my house, you know, my parents, you know, my children, you know what I'm saying? You know, so many, like you were in television, like, we didn't go to your house. You know, it wasn't like we were know all these details. And I think they just feel like we know, which is great. That's a great thing.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's the effect, the impact. And it's. And it's absolutely undeniable. But there is that.

[Willie Robertson]

Except for all the weirdos.

[Host/Interviewer]

Okay, true. Long list of that, I imagine. But like, it is, I always say, and oh my gosh, my little sports world, I'm like way down here compared. I can't even imagine. Because yeah, at the end of the day, you have brought your family into their living room. So as they're sitting there watching with their kids and grandkids, whatever it is, so they do automatically affect them that they want to, but they almost forget. And these are like sane, normal people who just lose their mind.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, it's a great. It was, it was like a great thing. And it was so like you just felt like grateful that people feel that way towards us. But also it could be overwhelming. Yes, people would. Our kids were teenagers at the time, so people would like pitch their sons to us to date our daughter. Like, he would come and be like, okay, my son's really cute and he's really great and he's a great Christian and he, you know, like, I feel like they should date, you know, things like that. It would be, we'd be like, listen.

[Host/Interviewer]

I've done that anytime or two. I'm like, arrange marriages. Whatever they do in other countries, I'll do it.

[Korie Robertson]

Maybe that'll work.

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[Host/Interviewer]

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[Korie Robertson]

Are you gonna tell your story about college and how whenever, after we, you know, had Dick Dynasty, we went to all the rooms that you've ever been.

[Willie Robertson]

To speaking gig after, I mean since Doug Dynasty started was at the college we went to and I was the.

[Korie Robertson]

Same and he was like, that barely made it.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh yeah, you got that degree though.

[Willie Robertson]

Took all my classes with her and yeah, and then I'm seeing all these fancy rooms and I'm like, where was all like, I never saw any of this. I didn't cash that check for about A month. I just showed everybody else that went to school with me, and I was like, when you're paying those student loans, think about. You're just paying me so bad.

[Korie Robertson]

So this is bad.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's amazing. So this is. This is right after the show started and you went back to speak.

[Korie Robertson]

Yes. Huh.

[Host/Interviewer]

How surreal was that? It was awesome.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, it was fun. It was fun. But he tried to get on the basketball team.

[Willie Robertson]

That was the first story I told.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, you'll have to tell that story. He tried to get on the basketball team, but the college team was like, if you'd have let me on that basketball team, this money would have given. We can tell that. We can tell that story.

[Willie Robertson]

Always Rolling podcast where I'm like, when do we start? They're like, we started as soon as.

[Korie Robertson]

You put the microphone right? Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Do I have a microphone? Oh, I do have a microphone.

[Korie Robertson]

That's how smooth he is.

[Willie Robertson]

You take my wallet, too. Like, I literally didn't even feel his hand.

[Korie Robertson]

Ninja microphone.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's how sneaky he is.

[Korie Robertson]

No.

[Willie Robertson]

So when I was. Yeah. So when we had to school, which I didn't plan on going to college, her dad really thought it'd be a good idea if I went to college. We got married, and so I started school. I took badminton 101. The guy who was teaching the badminton class was the head basketball coach. He had just gotten the job. And so I came up with this idea because I played high school basketball. And at this school, I was like, I can play. I quit a few times, but I was on the team, and so I was convinced I could play. And I was like, I'm gonna play college basketball.

[Korie Robertson]

He was a really good basketball player.

[Host/Interviewer]

I love that.

[Willie Robertson]

Right?

[Host/Interviewer]

You were a center, obviously.

[Willie Robertson]

No, not a. Yeah. My brother says I'm sneaky, athletic, so you have to watch out. So I get this plan. I tell the guy, the teacher, who's also the basketball coach. I said, look, first day, I said, if I beat you in badminton, you're the teacher. If I beat you in badminton in front of the whole class, you have to put me on the basketball team. And he's kind of like, laughing, like, I don't think you're gonna beat me. I said, well, you know, let's go. Let's go and just beat the trash out of him.

[Ad Narrator]

You did.

[Willie Robertson]

He didn't realize I was a really good Batman player.

[Host/Interviewer]

How were you a good badminton player?

[Willie Robertson]

We played at summer camp. I put on badminton tournaments, and so.

[Korie Robertson]

We really got into badminton trophies.

[Willie Robertson]

I've been to the Olympic badminton. We went to the Olympics, and I went and watched all the badminton matches.

[Host/Interviewer]

Are you serious?

[Willie Robertson]

I won the champ. I'm the intramural college badminton champion. I was the intramural in, like, 1993.

[Host/Interviewer]

I need video evidence of this. For real.

[Willie Robertson]

We didn't take pictures.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. Really? Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

So I beat the guy. So after the class, I'm like, I mean, you ain't even got to pay for it. I said, I'll just be on the. I'll be on the team. He said, willie, I can't. Like, that's just not how it works. I can't do it. And I said, you sucker. So years go by, the guy comes out.

[Korie Robertson]

He held that ride all these years.

[Willie Robertson]

We get asked to speak. That guy is still there? No, he's still there. Like, 25 years later, I get up, oh, it's so nice to be back at the campus.

[Korie Robertson]

To the whole student body, the whole.

[Willie Robertson]

There was, like, 5,000 people there. And I said, I just wanted to bring up Coach Morgan. He's here. And everybody's like, oh. I said, he taught me badminton. And I told him the story. Told him the story. And I said, so this guy was not a man of his word. Oh, my God. And I said, let me just tell y'.

[Korie Robertson]

All. I don't remember you saying that. Can you imagine?

[Willie Robertson]

Because I didn't graduate from the university, I transferred. I said, can you imagine? Had he put me on the team, I would have stayed here the whole four years. Can you imagine how much money I would have given this school? Because I would have been a graduate, But I'm not, and I didn't. And it's all because of that man. Oh, my God. Opening story.

[Host/Interviewer]

What did he do with yours?

[Willie Robertson]

He loved it.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's awesome.

[Willie Robertson]

In fact, we filmed there last year. We filmed the new show. We were back. He's still there. He's not the coach, but he was still there.

[Host/Interviewer]

Is he still playing?

[Willie Robertson]

And he said, you still got it. And so we were on the basketball court. I said, give me that ball. How many times did I shoot?

[Host/Interviewer]

He missed a lot.

[Willie Robertson]

I mean, I shot like, 30 times. The first 20, I didn't even hit the rim.

[Korie Robertson]

You weren't warm. Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, that's what it was.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. And it's all filmed, so it'll be documented on the revival. Yeah, I think. I think they showed all your misses.

[Willie Robertson]

That's true.

[Host/Interviewer]

Could you. How would you do today? Playing badminton.

[Willie Robertson]

Badminton, I'd do.

[Korie Robertson]

So you probably still got it.

[Willie Robertson]

I mean, basketball don't know how to play, so.

[Korie Robertson]

A little rusty.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's true.

[Willie Robertson]

Like, when I play people, they don't. You know, they're still trying to. They're just trying to make contact.

[Ad Narrator]

Exactly.

[Willie Robertson]

With the show.

[Host/Interviewer]

But, I mean, you're moving. You have no.

[Willie Robertson]

It's center court. You know what? It's a lot like badminton to me. Reminds me so much of pickleball.

[Host/Interviewer]

I was just gonna say that.

[Willie Robertson]

It's the same. Like, pickleball to me is not like tennis. It's more like badminton.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes, yes.

[Willie Robertson]

Because you gotta. You gotta hold the position in the court in Batman, so. And then it's the dinks and the. Yeah, but in badminton, there's no kitchen, so you can just. So the. The shots are the ones that just barely drip over.

[Korie Robertson]

Now we're after this conversation. We're going home and setting up badminton again. Now I feel like we gotta get back. I know. I feel like we gotta get back into it.

[Willie Robertson]

I bought rackets. I mean, I bought.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, we had this racket.

[Willie Robertson]

I need a badminton racket. I said, go get me the best badminton racket. I said, it will be endorsed by a name you cannot pronounce.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, yeah. Different country.

[Willie Robertson]

A different country. And so he said, I got you like a $400. Oh, my gosh. And it was endorsed by some with 12 letters, some like whoever the Asian national champion is over there.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Willie Robertson]

But I had it all set up, and I thought, my kids, I thought everybody. And no one has gotten the badminton bug.

[Korie Robertson]

So this summer we're getting into it again. Yes.

[Host/Interviewer]

You'll be the one.

[Korie Robertson]

I do like badminton, too. I'm not very good, but I do like it.

[Willie Robertson]

Nah, you were. You weren't that bad. You were mulchy.

[Host/Interviewer]

What's mulchy?

[Willie Robertson]

That means not good.

[Korie Robertson]

That's definitely an insult. I was like, I don't think that's so my compliment.

[Willie Robertson]

So what I try to do when I play. Not Corey, but when I would play like other men. And so what I myself, the badge. I'd want to put them as a mark. Like, you want to put a red mark on them when it hits him. How hard? Yes, right in the chest. In fact, remember the guy?

[Korie Robertson]

Remember the director of the tennis?

[Willie Robertson]

And I made him a T shirt and it said bullseye right in the middle of his chest because he was a tall guy and he couldn't get that racket. So if you just went center mass. And I would just as hard as I.

[Host/Interviewer]

This is how you get the aggression out.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Yes.

[Host/Interviewer]

How have you gotten the aggression out all these years without badminton. Then like what. What is the thing now?

[Willie Robertson]

It's just meditation.

[Korie Robertson]

Golf.

[Willie Robertson]

Golf, yeah. Golf clubs. Yeah. I don't have that same competitive.

[Korie Robertson]

Well, I was gonna say you don't go easy.

[Willie Robertson]

You act like you go easy. How many Scrabble boards and Monopoly board.

[Korie Robertson]

You don't go easy on me either.

[Willie Robertson]

Risk. Yeah. Be a nuclear bomb and risk. Because I'd get so mad, I would.

[Korie Robertson]

Throw back in the day.

[Host/Interviewer]

Remember how.

[Willie Robertson]

Remember biggest fight we had was over Scattergories. We had the biggest fight.

[Korie Robertson]

The opposite.

[Host/Interviewer]

No.

[Willie Robertson]

But I never shut it down.

[Korie Robertson]

Our family. It's a word game and it's like it. It should not be a fight. You should. It's like you vote up or down. Yeah. But you can kind of like we take it to another level of like you can convince. Plead your case over whether or not it's a. It's a word, you know, it fits or not.

[Willie Robertson]

And y' all schemed against me. Things that have spots. And I put sneaker bars, Snickers bars. Because if you put them in the freezer, they'll have little light spots. I made a great case and they all went.

[Host/Interviewer]

That is the most random thing.

[Willie Robertson]

It's a thing with spots. Put a chocolate bar in a freezer and you'll see slight spots on it. 100%. I should have won the point. They did and I got mad. I quit.

[Ad Narrator]

I mean, what was.

[Willie Robertson]

I never played Santa down.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Everybody.

[Korie Robertson]

Which now our son in laws are the same way. We went on family vacation with like 40 family members in one house. And it's so funny because like the other cousins and their husbands are like mild and like fine and they don't argue. Our family, our son are the ones causing all the problems. I'm like, all of our son in laws, all of our kids are fighting over categories and the rest of the cousins are like looking at us like.

[Host/Interviewer]

What'S wrong with you people?

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host/Interviewer]

If that's your worst fight though, Legit worst fight.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Categories. That's impressive.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, that was. Yeah. But a card games. Remember you'd be crying every day.

[Korie Robertson]

Oh, he used to make me cry about games when we were dating. Yes.

[Host/Interviewer]

What?

[Korie Robertson]

He grew up with four brothers and they were brutal to one another.

[Willie Robertson]

Like three brothers.

[Korie Robertson]

Oh, three brothers. There's four of them all together. They were brutal. And so like he just like treated me like that too when we first started dating. And I'd be end up crying every.

[Willie Robertson]

She grew up like super soft in a neighborhood and Everybody was.

[Korie Robertson]

You know, the worst thing they did.

[Willie Robertson]

Was pinch each other. You know, we were soft. You know, we were.

[Host/Interviewer]

Not that you were the opposite exactly, but you were. Okay, so which phase was this? How old were you when he was making you cry over cards?

[Korie Robertson]

17. We got married at 18 and 19, so we were babies. So we had a little maturing to do. I needed to toughen up a little bit. He needed to soften up a little bit. And so here we are, 34 years later. We're. We figured out.

[Willie Robertson]

Is that our anniversary?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, I know. And guess what? I was obsessing over your pictures. Can I show you my favorites? Yes, actually, you posted it. Look, this is my. She's like, oh, here we go. These are not my photos. I was not there when you got married.

[Willie Robertson]

What did I post?

[Host/Interviewer]

Wait, did your assistant post it? Did you write the caption?

[Willie Robertson]

Sometimes.

[Ad Narrator]

Tell me that you wrote the captions.

[Korie Robertson]

For your wedding anniversary. I think I.

[Willie Robertson]

There's a system.

[Korie Robertson]

You did. No, I already.

[Willie Robertson]

It's internal AI.

[Korie Robertson]

I read to him.

[Willie Robertson]

We have a system. That stuff comes up.

[Korie Robertson]

I read to him what he wrote for me on anniversary. He was like, wow, that was nice.

[Willie Robertson]

Okay, so it was good, though.

[Host/Interviewer]

Can we complete that? Did you write the caption for your wedding anniversary?

[Willie Robertson]

Sometimes I open, sometimes I go, that's perfect. That's. That's me.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Host/Interviewer]

Honest. I will say this.

[Willie Robertson]

Sometimes she writes.

[Ad Narrator]

Let me just.

[Korie Robertson]

I do not. I never write your captions. Let me just say this. He writes really sweet love notes. He really does.

[Host/Interviewer]

Like, the real ones.

[Korie Robertson]

The real handwritten love notes.

[Ad Narrator]

Stuff that the world doesn't need to say.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's right. Got it.

[Korie Robertson]

But socials and. Yeah, I love it, but he's honest.

[Ad Narrator]

And this is the first one you posted.

[Host/Interviewer]

In case you didn't know what you posted. This is the first one.

[Willie Robertson]

That's what I posted.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's so, so sweet.

[Ad Narrator]

Like 18 and 19 years old. What do you remember about that day?

[Willie Robertson]

It's like I was taking her to raise. It was like she was a child.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh. I mean, you're legal.

[Willie Robertson]

That day was. Yeah, I was nervous, and that was a big deal.

[Korie Robertson]

We had an awesome wedding. We had like 800 people there. So our families were both like kind of the two big families at the church. The Robertsons and the Howards were like, both big families. Both kind of like outspoken, well known in the church. And so, I mean, everyone was there for our wedding, and it was really special and fun. All of our little cousins were Our flower girls and little. What do you call the little kid that brings the ring bear? The ring bear and all that. It was super sweet and it was super fun.

[Willie Robertson]

We weren't like, oh, dad didn't wear. We couldn't get him to wear a suit.

[Korie Robertson]

No.

[Willie Robertson]

I said, I'm bagged.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's okay.

[Korie Robertson]

I didn't.

[Willie Robertson]

I know, but I was like, I.

[Korie Robertson]

Think he wore corduroys.

[Willie Robertson]

He wore his church clothes, which was basically what I have on.

[Korie Robertson]

It was like corduroys and like a.

[Willie Robertson]

Like a button up shirt.

[Korie Robertson]

Like a flannel. Button up flannel. That was his. Nice. Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

I said, can you wear a suit? And I said, no, not a chance.

[Korie Robertson]

You should tell about my dad driving you there.

[Host/Interviewer]

To the one over that.

[Korie Robertson]

To the wedding.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

About the fact that, like, so, I.

[Willie Robertson]

Mean, there's context with that. Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Okay.

[Willie Robertson]

It's like the end of the story.

[Korie Robertson]

We'll go back to the beginning of that story. So I'm 17 years old when I go to my parents and say, we're going to get married. Not only are we going to get married, but I had a scholarship to the college that they went to that I was going to.

[Willie Robertson]

That was the college that we ended up.

[Korie Robertson]

So not only was I going to now marry Willie, I was not going.

[Host/Interviewer]

To go to that college.

[Korie Robertson]

I was going to stay and go to our local college. And I had, like, changed just everything all of a sudden, which you can imagine how they reacted. They did not think that that was a great idea at 17 years old and told me as such. And my dad, like our parents, our families, as you can imagine, just grew up very differently. My dad had the spreadsheets and the PowerPoint presentation of why this is probably not a good idea and what you should be thinking about and how are you gonna live and all this kind of thing. So we had a summer of arguments with my parents, which was very unusual because I did. I got along with my parents very well. We didn't have. So it was this, like, battle throughout the summer. Well, the end of that summer, I decided they were right. I needed to go to college. So I told Willie, I'm going to college. I'm going to go to the college that I have the scholarship. Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

And I totally understood. And I said, that's a mature decision.

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[Korie Robertson]

No. So he broke up with me because you broke up? Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah, Well, I mean I felt like we're having to stand ground here. You know, if you're gonna listen to your parents for the rest of your life, you've gotta again.

[Korie Robertson]

We were.

[Willie Robertson]

Im here in your young 17 year old self.

[Korie Robertson]

That lasted about a week. So I went off to college. Willie calls me and was like.

[Willie Robertson]

And I caught her week later like how did you get to this call? How do you.

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[Korie Robertson]

Yes. So he called me about a week later, we got back together. And then I turn 18 and we go back to my parents and we're like, okay. We decided that this is we're gonna get married. They have one last big knockdown drag out. He and my parents literally like came over.

[Willie Robertson]

She called me and said, now Cory's at college so she's having to quarterback this on a landline. That was like a party line for your dorm.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Like other people would be on the phone. Yeah. And she said, my parents are coming to get you to go to their house to have a meeting. I said, heck no, I ain't going with them. And she's like, why not? I said, because I'm about to walk home. I said, this won't go well. And then I'm about to leave, and then if I'm in the car, I'm not getting trapped by that. So, no, if they want to meet, they can come to my place.

[Korie Robertson]

And let me just say, my parents were not, like, fighters. I never heard my parents yell in my life.

[Willie Robertson]

Indiana, nice. Like, just everything's like. Until this situation happened. And then the Willie was, like, ready to fight. I was subleasing a room for my brother, so I live with them, he and his family. And then I have my own little situation there in my room. So they come over, and we all sit on the couch, and I had a couch in there, and we started arguing. I mean, it was basically me and her dad and so much. So my brother came and just busted the door. He thought I had the TV on loud. He was like, hey, hey. He was like, oh, sorry. You know, and he didn't realize. And her dad is, like, on the edge of this seat, and he's like. He's getting so mad at me. And I thought he was gonna, like, punch me, which I was ready. I was like, let's go, you know, like, 100%. And I'm not. I'm just being. You know, he's got me backed in a corner, and I'm definitely. Because he's popping off stat, then I'm basically giving him back. Oh, well, you don't think. You don't think God can work in that way? You know, so. And he's like, well, no, I'm not saying that. Well, you just said that, you know, and you just brought this. And, you know, he's like, 50% of the marriage is in. So you're calling the shot. This marriage is not gonna make, you know? Is that what you're saying? You're. Oh, you profit, you know, so I'm. I'm being.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Willie Robertson]

You know, not. And he's mad.

[Korie Robertson]

Not exactly respectful, because he brings over.

[Willie Robertson]

Like, files and statistics and, like, a.

[Host/Interviewer]

Folders, and, like, he literally had files.

[Willie Robertson]

Oh, 100%, yes. Like, he had all the data.

[Korie Robertson]

My dad is like a reader, a studier. He's, like, sending.

[Willie Robertson]

He's.

[Korie Robertson]

Oh, he sent me articles today to read. You know, he's that. That dad.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Not like your dad, exactly.

[Willie Robertson]

And he's like, what? Do you even have a plan? Do you have any sort of plan in life? Where do you plan on living with my daughter? And I said, well, I reckon I'll pull a trailer up behind Phil's house, and we'll live there for free. Oh, my gosh. That was not what he wanted to hear. And. And finally, her mom is sitting in the middle, and her mom's not saying much, and her mom just goes, okay, John, I think you've said what you wanted to say. Willie said what he needed to say. We'll go talk more and think about this. And so they left, and we talked, and I was like, well, that didn't go well. And then they said, okay.

[Korie Robertson]

They called me back. They called me back on the landline a little bit later, and they were like, you know, we. We've said what we said. We have to say we love you. You're our first daughter. Like, this is hard for us, but we totally get it. And if you want to marry Willie, then we'll support you 100%.

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[Korie Robertson]

That same night.

[Willie Robertson]

So that was in October. We got married in January, and I rode to the wedding with her dad. That's what. That's kind of. That's the content.

[Korie Robertson]

He rode to the wedding with my dad, and my dad basically said that to him.

[Willie Robertson]

You know, we. We had what we thought we said, what we said. But now we're here and getting married, and we'll support you hear another thing about it.

[Korie Robertson]

We literally haven't had a crossword ever since. Yeah, that's amazing. And really, looking back 34 years, looking back, I feel like it was a gift to us to have to kind of fight through that, because it was like, we really had to fight for it and. And say, like, okay, this is really what we want. And whenever times got hard, I think in the years that came, it was like, hey, we fought for this. We wanted this. We had to decide, choose each other, even when it was hard. And so I think it was a good. It was a good thing for us. Honestly, looking back on that one, I.

[Host/Interviewer]

Wonder if there was a bit of a test, too, as dad, first daughter, and for them to have come back to you that night to support it, to me, that means. Okay, he was. He might not have liked what you were saying, but he respected the fact that you're like. You're 18 years old, and you act like you're. Like, you're not pushing me around. I love your daughter. This is what we're gonna do. Like, I think that's really impressive for your age. Yeah, I think it was.

[Willie Robertson]

It really was. Yeah. You had to know. And then we obviously had to think about all this stuff that was gonna.

[Korie Robertson]

Happen, to think about all that and say, like, okay, choosing each other.

[Host/Interviewer]

Right.

[Korie Robertson]

No matter what.

[Willie Robertson]

And then I Moved. Well, we got married. We got married on Saturday. We. Then I moved up to the campus and we. We got. Where are we? At an apartment.

[Korie Robertson]

A little apartment. Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And then I started college on Monday.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, that was.

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[Willie Robertson]

Was not even a. Honey. It was just like.

[Korie Robertson]

But we did not care. We were like.

[Host/Interviewer]

We were together.

[Korie Robertson]

We were together. Amazing.

[Host/Interviewer]

It was legal. Okay, so fast forward to you being in her dad's shoes and, you know, someone wants to come marry your daughter.

[Willie Robertson]

I think. Well, I kind of learned I didn't want to be like that. And so I wanted to be.

[Korie Robertson]

Even though we talked about. We were like, maybe it was good for us. Maybe we should do that a little bit more. But we did.

[Willie Robertson]

Jess will be careful about what you said, because the problem was I was taking it as, y' all just don't like me personal.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. Yeah. It was hard.

[Willie Robertson]

Even though they were sad. No, that's not the case. But it was like, well, it really looks like that. It really looks like, you know, where I was someone else or had. You know, and so. Because that's. That was kind of the shame of it. Because I knew her parents really well. We, like, we were really good friends. They were the youth leaders in the church. And. And so, like, I respected them and really looked up to them. So then it was like everything was kind of crashing, going, oh, these are the people that I thought were so awesome. And now they literally just don't like me. We didn't. You know, Cory and them were way more successful. And I was like, they just don't think I've got a plan or going anywhere. And so I was taking it personally. So fast forward to when now when I'm talking to my kids about who they're gonna marry, I definitely didn't want to come across. And anyway, like, I don't like them or I don't like the way they are, because once stuff gets said and done, it's hard to walk that back, because that has happened to us. Like, I remember my brother one time was dating this girl, and they broke up. He comes to me and, like, sober, and I'm like, oh, she was terrible. You know, like, that girl was crazy. And he's like, yeah, she was awful. Well, they get back together in three days, and I'm like, oh, shoot, you.

[Korie Robertson]

Gotta be careful of that with your kids.

[Willie Robertson]

He told her what I said, and now she's like, I can't stand him. Because you said. And I was like, well, we were in agreement.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, but you also, I'm sure Understand where dad was coming from. Maybe you didn't like the way he handled it, but that literally comes from father's love. That is so unique with a daughter versus a son. And no matter how much you like somebody, you're like, I'm gonna kill you if you hurt my daughter. That's a. That's a whole different.

[Willie Robertson]

Right. Well, there's probably a healthy fear that I really didn't have to market or advertise there. I'm sure there was a. I'm sure they understood kind of where I came from. And so. And I think what. I think probably what her dad. Probably the shortness of what he didn't think through was that he had raised her. So he had. You've put all this stuff into your child. You have to trust, like, her judgment. I've been with him for, you know, 18 years or 20 years, however long it is. And you've taught him everything you know. And at that point, you've got to trust that and say, well, they know.

[Korie Robertson]

The values, and I think ultimately that's where they came to. But, I mean, 17 years old, that's.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's hard.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. Now looking back, I'm like, okay, I was. I was young.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, because. Yeah. And she being the oldest and also the oldest grandchild of a lot of grandchildren from a successful family who are all. It's funny, her grandpa, CEO, her dad, CEO. So it's a bunch of CEOs, which. And I was a future CEO. So when you put all that together and, you know, you got a bunch of decision makers who are basically going, that's the deal. That's what we're doing. And then when somebody's not following suit, you know, you're not in the boardroom, you're not at work, you know, it's like. And I'm basically going to. I don't work for y'. All.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's different.

[Korie Robertson]

You're not taking.

[Willie Robertson]

So you got to make your case. So with my kids, so what I would, you know, if there's something that I'm thinking, oh, I need to interject. I just really try to think. What's the smartest way to do it? How do I make you think without being confrontational?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

I mean, I can be confrontational, but that doesn't. Usually. That doesn't help, because once we get in that, then you kind of lost, you know, and there's like, nobody can think.

[Host/Interviewer]

How was your relationship with her dad after?

[Korie Robertson]

Great.

[Host/Interviewer]

So you literally just. Okay, that's over with.

[Willie Robertson]

Just went point.

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[Willie Robertson]

And yeah. Because I was able to move on. And I realized, like, in our relationship, if there was gonna be trouble with me and her dad or me and her mom or, well, there was gonna be trouble with us. Which incidentally, did happen later with me and her mom ended up working together at. At the church camp. The camp we met at. So she was a director, I was a director. And so we started clashing again just from, like, I'm not her son and, you know, and she's not my mom. And so. And Cory, we get caught in the middle. And so I realized. Learned again, learned from that. Like, well, this is not because I'm coming home telling her, like, your mom is driving me crazy. And it wasn't over just being a mother in law. It was literally over work. Like, they were working in the work environment.

[Korie Robertson]

It's hard to work in a family business.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah, it was really hard.

[Korie Robertson]

We both come from family businesses. Like, my family had a family business. His did, too. So it's like those inner workings of, like working with your brothers and mom and sister in law and mother in.

[Willie Robertson]

Law and father in law responded to like, my mother was like a bragger. Like, if I went, I would go clean up because I was a big cleaner. And so I would clean up the whole yard. I'd build something. And mom would be like, that's the best thing I've ever seen. That's the. You know, And I would just be like, that's what I'm talking about. You know.

[Korie Robertson]

And his mom was like, did you notice he brought his Bible to church?

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[Korie Robertson]

You know, that kind of mom that like every little thing. Or like, he changed the diaper. Oh, he's amazing.

[Host/Interviewer]

He could do no.

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[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Willie Robertson]

So then with her mom was just not like that. So I would go out there and get the camp ready for the summer and just work like crazy and have it. I'd be like. I'd step back and be like, I mean, this cannot look any better. It's like 100 acres of property and trails. And she would pull up and she would go, oh, it looks nice. There's a shovel over there leaning against that tree. And I would just be like, this is his perspective. All the stuff I did. And you literally said the one thing that. And I'm like. And I would get sick and he'd.

[Korie Robertson]

Come home just like, die.

[Willie Robertson]

That would be. So she missed the hole.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. I mean, that was quite the contrast between the two moms and the dads. Right. So when you said earlier that Maybe that rougher start, in particular, the relationship with her dad did come back to help you during tough times.

[Willie Robertson]

Oh, 100%.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. What are some examples of maybe where you're like, all right, that prepared us for something that we didn't know was coming?

[Willie Robertson]

Well, I think it prepared us for one where we were, where life was gonna take us, which was. It was both of us separate than actually both of our families. We moved off and went to college, which is very helpful to kind of establish who we were. And then, because we came back to our hometown. And so it's always interesting when you're. When you're in your hometown and the expectations or lack of expectations of what people think. And so that prepared us for that. I ended up working for her parents. That's who I worked for, like, in my 20s, was running this Christian camp, which was part of their foundation and nonprofit work that they did. And so it's very helpful in the preparation for that. But then also to know how to deal with my parents as well, especially over who does it better? I think Cory and I really, for the first, like, 10 years, it was, who does it? But is it her family? Does it better, or does my family? And they were so different. The faith part was aligned 100%. Like, they had the same faith, and they had the same love of the Lord, but how we did things was just completely different. And so there was a phase when I was like, well, this is how, you know, you should do things. And then. And then I remember going. Then I remember swaying away from my parents going, oh, my gosh. They're. They are ignorant as, hey, you know, they don't know. You know, then I went through that phase, and then it's a coming back phase of, like, it all worked. You know, it all helps to.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. Figuring out the strengths and the gifts from each side. And then, like, okay, how do we want to do it as our family? Like, okay, what do we take from here? What do we take from here? And meld into something that we feel like is us and is our family.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, in my 20s, having to work with your family, like, so I had to. Which was rocky at times, too, to get along well. Then when I turned 30, that's when we took over our family business. So now I'm the head guy at our family business. So all that experience after going, well, that didn't work. And that, you know, learning how to motivate people, how to. To get, you know, people to do stuff, and especially when they're related and when they're seeing you as their little brother or their son. And so all that experience went into what ultimately culminated when. When I turned 40, we turned 40, which was then Duck Dynasty. Now we have this show, and now you're in front of, you know, the world and you're running this thing and you're having this show. And so all that experience was so valuable to draw back to the, you.

[Korie Robertson]

Know, which my dad.

[Willie Robertson]

Media and, you know, everything.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

My dad ended up being a real integral part into our. Into the Robertson family business, into Duck Commander and everything. There's a whole story around that. And the way my dad kind of helped Duck Commander and the business early. Early on. But whenever we took it over, he actually came and worked with us and handled, like, our contracts and licensing and all those detail things that, you know, that Willie really didn't grow up knowing or understanding or whatever. And so that was a huge help to us. He was. He was the one that was like, just helped us, like, take care of insurance and, you know, all the detail things of a business that we didn't really know.

[Willie Robertson]

I was definitely like, he was that guy.

[Korie Robertson]

He was great. He's great and still is. Loves doing it.

[Willie Robertson]

Goes through a map, sorts it all.

[Korie Robertson]

Out, make sure we check.

[Willie Robertson]

Sure. Car insurance goes through all the details.

[Korie Robertson]

Make sure we look at the financials. And, you know, he's been great at that and really mentored you in business in a lot of ways through all of that. Yeah. Because you didn't have that growing up necessarily. Your dad was definitely more about the big vision.

[Host/Interviewer]

And that's cool, too, because how old is your dad now?

[Korie Robertson]

Let's see, 75.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

So. And then my parents were 76 and 79 and, you know, things happen and health. And I'm sure that makes him feel really good that he can contribute and still help and be part of it.

[Korie Robertson]

Absolutely.

[Host/Interviewer]

But it's yours. Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. He had sold his business by that time, actually. The warehouse that we're in was our family business warehouse. We had a publishing company, was one of the businesses. And so he had sold his business with, you know, semi retired by the time Duck Dynasty happened. So he was really able to come alongside us and be just like a massive help during that time period. And, yeah, we're really thankful for that and still does. I mean, he's a great dad and.

[Host/Interviewer]

Granddad, you know, I'm picturing the church scene, especially there at the beginning, and you were just trying to remain normal and praise God and. And bring your family up in the Church, et cetera. And then all of a sudden, it wasn't that easy. It wasn't that simple. You know, not everybody can handle success like friends, neighbors, people maybe been in your life the whole time. And then all of a sudden, you guys are perceived differently in the community and they can't relate financially in any other way. Were their friendships affected? Relationships loss through the years?

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah, I figured to this day, I mean. Yeah, and that is hard because it's hard to have what used to be a normal conversation with people. And I would find myself where I'd be like, I just don't know what to say. I don't know, to be like, what you got going on? They're like, man, look at that new lawnmower. See if I'm. You know. And so I'm like, oh, that's awesome. That's great. Yeah, you guys should. What you got going on. And I'm just like, I don't even wanna.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

I don't. I can't even, you know. Well, I'm, you know, I'm going down Florida, and I'm doing a podcast with Sage. Then we're gonna be on stage. Then we're gonna, you know, and I. Because you can feel it going. Oh, I get, you know, in my local world, you know, the person's gone. And so it's. It is. It is difficult to. Where. Because. And the people we know now are friends with are literally global. Like, because a lot of people that we are super good friends with are people that are in somewhat similar situation, you know, where they, you know, it's. They've done things and so they understand.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

Hey, I get it. I get. We're, you know, we're not gonna go to this restaurant because it's gonna be crazy, you know, so we're gonna have, you know, we're gonna do something different. And so. So we. And we've met, which is probably my favorite thing about the show, is just all the people we've been able to meet and hang out with, a lot of them I looked up to or were fans of. And some not. Some were just like, wow, this is great. You know, I learned so much. So much work that's been done, like, for the church and for the kingdom, that blew my mind. And so what. A lot of my people that, you know, you grew up in this smaller town, they only think at this, like, they can only think as big as that parish or we have counties or whatever it is, and they don't really think beyond that. And so it's you know, to think, to see what people are doing all over the world and, like, with just craze. So it's so inspiring to Cory and I to do that and sometimes to run with those horses, to, you know, be inspired to do more and bigger things and think outside of that and help others. But it is tough. Yeah. Local people are funny. They're like, half of them love it. Like, they'll give you. Like, I'm gonna give this. You ain't got to pay me nothing. And then the other half are the opposite way, which is, I'm gonna triple charge you. Now, I know you got tons of money. So it's like this weird, like. And so I can easily see it. Like, I can see it in their face. Like, you can just tell my. They are not. They are not impressed. And they're. Because people be like, well, I guess, you know, do you think, oh, yesterday, the lady that she ended up eating you to. We're at the airport. So we're at the Monroe Airport. There is always 40 people in the line to go through security. There is a pre check line. It says pre check. And airline employees. I go straight that line. Everybody I know looks at me going, does he think he is. And I don't want to. Every time someone go, it's pre check, pre check. I'm not just jumping.

[Korie Robertson]

You can have this, too.

[Willie Robertson]

So I go in the pre. And I'm standing there and I'm. And this leg goes, what are you trying to get there faster than we are? And I don't know this. And I said, it's prejudice. The airline set this up.

[Korie Robertson]

It's.

[Willie Robertson]

You know, you should really get it if you fly a lot, because it's a way. But the fact that she said that. I knew when she said that. I said, you knew what that was? Everybody's thinking every time, like, yeah. And then the tsa, like, hey, will it. You know, and it's like, oh, he thinks he's getting all this. And she was like, do you think you're better? And I said, yeah, I don't. I'm not in any way, too. I think I'm.

[Korie Robertson]

Willie does all the grocery shopping in our family, and he cooks and everything. But people in the grocery store, most of the time, he goes in, they're like, you. You do your grocery shopping.

[Willie Robertson]

I believe you buy groceries.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, I gotta buy groceries too, you know. And he's like, I'm old school. I don't order, like, whatever the grocery delivery. Like, all our kids, like, they don't go to the grocery store store. They want grocery delivery. But Willie's like, I like to go to the grocery store. But people are always like, you go to the grocery store. Yeah, that's normal.

[Willie Robertson]

You know, I was at the store the other day, and the lady said. Somebody said, is that Willie Rose? She goes, oh, yeah, he's up here every day. He's a good guy. It was like, he grocery shop. I'm like, thank you, man, for your endorsement. Wow.

[Host/Interviewer]

Is that intentional for you to not change in every way? But, like, no. These are the basics. And I could have somebody. A company delivered or have an assistant go do it. But you are.

[Willie Robertson]

It's what I enjoy doing.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. He likes it.

[Willie Robertson]

Love, love, love. Why I would never. So there's apparently my kids. You can order your groceries, and they bring them to you. Like, just. And I'm like, I would never have anybody like my vegetables. Like, I'm looking at every one. I'm like, up. That ain't gonna get it. And so when I get there, too, I'm usually. I'm usually cooking in my mind. So I'm there going, okay. So as I'm walking through, I'm actually working out the meal of what I want to cook. Like, I'll call her and say, do you have any ideas? Or a lot of my kids will text me and be like, are you cooking? So I'll go up there, and as I'm working, walking through, I'll be like, I think I have this. And so I'm doing all that, and it's the whole experience that I love.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's amazing.

[Willie Robertson]

And I don't just go to one. I go to about Typically to cook a meal. I go to three different grocery stores.

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[Willie Robertson]

Because they have different. So some specialize in different. Like, I buy fruit and vegetables at a certain place, but there's meat that's better at a different place. And so I hit every serious about.

[Korie Robertson]

The Robertson family are serious about their food. Very serious.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Korie Robertson]

And I appreciate it. I'll take it. He does it all.

[Willie Robertson]

I love. Like, that's what I would do. If it's a day of. If I'm home by myself on a Saturday, which is rare, but so I would grab a cookbook. I would look up something. Or we would have, like, my kids, we'd have a meal somewhere. Like, we could have a meal here and be like, I can cook this. And then I would go study, look it up, go to the grocery store stores, find what I want, get the ingredients. And sometimes I'll cook an entire meal. It'll just be me. And I'll lay it all out, and I'll taste it, and I'll be like, either this is good or this is terrible. And then it goes into the next phase, which is the testing. So then I invite maybe a couple of kids over, and I'll say, this is a testing meal. They try it, and then when it goes full thumbs up, it go. Sadie says, put it in the rotation.

[Korie Robertson]

So then it comes in. Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

So then it'll. And all of them have different things that they like. And so then. But that is another way. Was really my way of saying, how do I intentionally bring the family together? And food is such a great. And that meal. And they come over like crazy because they're all trying to figure out every day, what do we eat? And so when they're like, ah, Dad's gonna cook this. So here they come together. Now we're in the family dinner scene.

[Korie Robertson]

That's right. If I, like, post a picture of something he cooked and they're not there, they're, like, so offended. They're like, why didn't we get the invite?

[Host/Interviewer]

What happened?

[Ad Narrator]

How did.

[Host/Interviewer]

How did we not get invited?

[Korie Robertson]

Because they. We all live together, like, in a neighborhood beautiful right there together. And so we are. We eat together, you know, almost every night whenever we're home. Everybody's, you know, either they invite me to their house when he's gone because they know I don't cook. So I love that. Now our kids are cooks, too. So I'm like, whose house can I go eat at while he's gone? But, yeah, if we happen to have a night where it's just us two at home and he cooks something good and I post it, I get the text immediately, like, what, dad made oats of pork and didn't invite us?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Believe it or not, that is one of my meals, actually.

[Host/Interviewer]

When's the last time you had a meal at home, just you two?

[Korie Robertson]

This week we actually. Yeah, this week we did. Just us, too.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, pretty much everything. I've been home.

[Korie Robertson]

I know, but she's saying just us, too.

[Willie Robertson]

Like, oh, just.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah. Different come over.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

No, but it was actually a lot.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah. I made these. I call them tiny meals just because it's just for two of us.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And I would do these little. Oh, that was the. The ginger salmon.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Angel.

[Korie Robertson]

So good.

[Willie Robertson]

Three stores. So I go to the first store to get ginger, which is the closest one. So I want a ginger root, like.

[Korie Robertson]

The real root that you have? Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

So I go in there. They've got one little. It's the most pitiful package. So I get it. So I'm looking around because everybody knows it. I'm like, I have to open the smell. I'm like, it looks like it's half dried. I'm like, no, I'm not. No, I'm not doing this. So I told her when I left, I said, all I need is ginger. I'll be back in five minutes. So I ditch that grocery store. I go to the Walmart neighborhood market, which is usually super reliable produce. And so I go in there and I'm looking. I can't find. I'm like. And I'm. I can find everything. Like, she calls me from a grocery. Like, I'm at the grocery store, and she's like, at Disney, where she's like, wow. She goes, where do you find me to go? I'm just like, notice how they're refrigerated. Goods are in the back of this thing. And, like, he can walk around. And, like, I'm like, yeah, it's a. It's a great place to hang.

[Korie Robertson]

To be fair, when my kids were little, I did all the grocery shopping. This is a newer phenomenon. Like, as he's been more, like semi retired. Well, I'm just saying, like, I used to go to the grocery store, but once he took it over, I just abdicated that responsibility totally. So now when I do go, he likes it when I do go. I am like, wow, this is kind of cool, you know? But I'm lost.

[Willie Robertson]

So in Walmart, I can't find the ginger. So I have. I'm like, oh, man. I'm about to ask, which is not one, but. And the workers, they're not. It's like they're there trying to. They're packing other people's groceries to deliver.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

But nobody's, like, really being helpful. So finally I'm like, ding, ding, ding. And, like, headphones going, like, where's the ginger? Like. And I'm like, I know I'm in here every day, but. And I was right there. Oh, we're out. I'm like, store number two. I'm ginger less. And I'm like, dad, gingerless. I've got to keep going in deeper into town, away from our house. And now I'm like, an hour gone. So I go into another supermarket, and there's a lady there, and I'm looking, and she goes, I'm trying to find the ginger. And I went, don't say I'm Looking for. I've never heard anybody, even. Most people have never even heard of a ginger root.

[Host/Interviewer]

Exactly.

[Willie Robertson]

And me and this lady are both. And I look down and there's one package. And I'm going like, oh, no, this is where I don't want everybody knowing who I am. Willie Robson just shoved the lady out of the way to get the last package of ginger.

[Korie Robertson]

But I went to three stores.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah. And I said, well, I've been to three stores looking for ginger. And she said, we know what it is. Everybody's trying to get their system right. And I said, what? Yeah, like. And I was like, I'm just cooking salmon. And she said, no, this is. I guess because the new year.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, then she's like. She's like, give me the benefits of ginger. And I'm like, oh, crap. I said, well, look, I'm gonna buy this. And it was organic. She said, I ain't buying that organic. It's too expensive. And I said, well, I can just give you some. There's plenty of root.

[Ad Narrator]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

She goes, no, no, no. I don't even live here anyway. And I was like, then what are you doing in this?

[Host/Interviewer]

In my store?

[Willie Robertson]

You're in my store looking for ginger, but you're not gonna buy the organic? And so I came home telling Corey this. I said, I think I met.

[Korie Robertson]

I think she was an angel.

[Willie Robertson]

I think she's an angel.

[Korie Robertson]

She told me all about how great ginger is. And now, literally, we are here in Florida doing this interview. He's got a package of ginger that he packed in a suitcase.

[Willie Robertson]

A brute. If you. No, I was in there cutting it. This. He's making ginger tea.

[Korie Robertson]

This morning he was. Now he's obsessed.

[Willie Robertson]

This is full of ginger root.

[Host/Interviewer]

Are you serious?

[Willie Robertson]

I was in the hotel cutting it. I brought a knife, a whole thing of ginger root, and I'm in there.

[Korie Robertson]

I think this lady was there to just, like, give me this, like, health benefit that I needed to know. And now I'm going to.

[Willie Robertson]

You said, that's your ginger angel.

[Korie Robertson]

That's your ginger angel.

[Host/Interviewer]

God placed her there in front of you.

[Willie Robertson]

You 100%. 100%.

[Host/Interviewer]

He's like the power of God.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

I sliced some the other day. I will admit, I don't know if my husband knows ginger slices and then just squeezed a bunch of lemon.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

So together. That's what that is.

[Korie Robertson]

That's it.

[Willie Robertson]

And then I went to the restaurant bar and I said, can I just get a lemon? Like. And she gave me all that then. So I had My knife in the room and I squeezing my lemon and put.

[Host/Interviewer]

Have you.

[Ad Narrator]

It's good.

[Korie Robertson]

Yes. I'm doing it too.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's good.

[Willie Robertson]

Then she did it. Now our daughter in law, oh my gosh, she went and bought a bunch of ginger and did it. And so.

[Korie Robertson]

And now everybody who hears this podcast is going to go buy ginger.

[Willie Robertson]

Cook in your place or.

[Ad Narrator]

Okay.

[Willie Robertson]

Are you cooking at all?

[Korie Robertson]

Yes.

[Host/Interviewer]

Don't. Did you hear that was judgy. Are you cooking at all?

[Willie Robertson]

I said, are you the cook?

[Korie Robertson]

And you're like he. Which leads to the next question. Trust me, you cook.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes, but yes, but no. Okay, yes. And there's a difference. I'm slow and I love to bake. Like I will bake sweets all day, all night. I'm obsessed. I have a problem. But actually I'm now 12 days into no sugar and no carbs and I.

[Korie Robertson]

Want to kill people.

[Ad Narrator]

But it's fine.

[Host/Interviewer]

He is a great cook and very efficient and quicker. But listen, we've only been married four months. We're newlyweds. So I don't know, is this gonna continue? If God takes. Keep cooking for me.

[Willie Robertson]

Are you cooking for Bud? You're cooking. Okay.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah. He cooks a lot. He's just.

[Korie Robertson]

That's awesome.

[Ad Narrator]

I don't trust myself.

[Host/Interviewer]

So I, I'm recipes. He can wing it.

[Willie Robertson]

What are you eating on the plate? That's how we are ordering food. Are you like sending stuff in restaurants? What, like getting it?

[Host/Interviewer]

No.

[Ad Narrator]

So you're gonna judge me if I.

[Host/Interviewer]

Say I get stuff delivered?

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah, that's what my kids do. They get it. Restaurants bring, you know, it's their door to.

[Korie Robertson]

All our kids cook now.

[Host/Interviewer]

I kind of refuse with that. And I. So, I mean, I could eat red meat last the other night with bison, like 24. I love my red meat. And I'm like, bring it bloody. Don't mess with me otherwise. And whatever. Vegetables, asparagus, Brussels sprouts, whatever. But I love it. And it's every day. And fish, really, salmon and all the beef in the world. That's all I really crave besides chocolate, but I can't do that.

[Ad Narrator]

And so it is.

[Host/Interviewer]

And it is a bonding thing, right? And now my three kids are off in college and one is out of college and working. He has one in high school and one college age as well. And so they're around more. But it is hard to cook for two people just to say, I mean.

[Willie Robertson]

I would never take a food recommendation from you. You're not the right size person that I would There's a certain person that I, you know, if you recommended food to me, I need to have a certain amount of girth quality that I would appreciate going. Okay. You understand? And that's what happened with Corey. So Cory. Corey's trying to. No, she's trying to cook. And it's not. She's not.

[Korie Robertson]

I did try one.

[Willie Robertson]

So I called my mom. I said, mom, Cory cannot cook. And she goes, I told you that's what you're gonna get when you marry a skinny girl. I was like, well, I know she does a lot of great things and she is thin, but she can't cook. She ain't never gonna be able to cook. My mom had the right. She had the right body proportion that could recommend a meal. And I'd be like, that woman knows what she's talking about. About. She knows what she's talking about.

[Host/Interviewer]

This is. Yeah, it's very judgmental.

[Korie Robertson]

It is. It is not very Christian. They have a lot of judgments about food. Trust me. My sister in law, so like, they were also very picky about, like, brands. You know, how to be the brand that their parents, you know, that your family ate and used or whatever. My sister in law, they were like on a budget because they had no money when they were early married. She would buy the off brand and pour it in the. Like the oil and pour it in the. Do you know that Missy did that to Jace and would pour it in the brand. She would be a sneaky. To get the cheaper version. Yes.

[Ad Narrator]

That's amazing.

[Korie Robertson]

And no. Yes. Because their family, like, you better get the right brand too.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, we're still.

[Willie Robertson]

Remember the guy the other day?

[Korie Robertson]

Absolutely.

[Willie Robertson]

He brought me dad gum, Price Saver butter. I sent him to get Price Saver butter. And I'm talking about butter. I'm talking about, oh, bucket of butter.

[Korie Robertson]

And y' all didn't grow up with money. Y' all didn't grow up with money. But you made sure you had the.

[Willie Robertson]

Right brand once we had money. So I send him to make to go get butter. And first he brings back the butter that I like.

[Host/Interviewer]

Good butter.

[Willie Robertson]

So then I send him back. I'm making this thing I make for people for the holidays. And so he comes back and half of it's like, price. And I'm like, what did you just buy? It was cheaper. I'm like, cheaper? You saved 20 cents. And now that I went and melted snobs like, look at this, look at this.

[Korie Robertson]

Look at the difference. Y' all are food snobs.

[Willie Robertson]

100%. 100%.

[Host/Interviewer]

Okay. So that's the biggest. Is that the biggest change from not having money to having money is now your food snobs?

[Willie Robertson]

No, we were food snobs.

[Korie Robertson]

No, they were food snobs.

[Willie Robertson]

We were food snobs. We were poor as heck.

[Korie Robertson]

They were.

[Ad Narrator]

Okay.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Because of quality.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

And you need to establish some girth.

[Willie Robertson]

Freshness, but it's not like. But it's more like freshness and.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Because we eat a lot of stuff that we catch or kill, you know, and so it's all about being fresh. It's not packaged and frozen and all this stuff. So we're into that.

[Host/Interviewer]

I will say my kids, my ex husband, he was a hunter. And I. I am obsessed since then. Because if you don't grow up around it, what is this? And you think it magically just appears at Whole Foods? It's like, guys, no, there's a process yet here, and some processes are better than others. And literally bison the other night.

[Korie Robertson]

So good.

[Host/Interviewer]

Antelope might be my favorite. All venison and everything. So then when you don't have that, I'm going to wash my mouth here. But at the end of the day, I'm like, like, can you learn to hunt, baby?

[Korie Robertson]

You need to fill the freezer. You need to fill up the freezer. He loves.

[Ad Narrator]

He fishes.

[Korie Robertson]

I mean, he's obsessed with that. That's great.

[Willie Robertson]

But we didn't get you on the hunch, right?

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

I'm sure my kids did it and my girls and I was so excited for them to truly understand, first of all, one of the reasons why God put these animals on this earth. And it is so much better.

[Willie Robertson]

So much better.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

It gets coming from that field to my kitchen, and there's no questions.

[Willie Robertson]

She just got a deer.

[Korie Robertson]

I did.

[Host/Interviewer]

Did you?

[Willie Robertson]

Last week.

[Korie Robertson]

I did last week.

[Host/Interviewer]

So we went out deer hunting. So forgive me, maybe I should know this. So are you. You're gutting it? You're dressing.

[Korie Robertson]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I did not grow up in a hunting family.

[Willie Robertson]

She's not.

[Host/Interviewer]

I know, but it's been 34 years planning.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, but I'm doing that. I mean, I'm not opposed to, like, getting my hands dirty. For sure. I'll get my hands dirty. I'm not opposed to get my hands dirty for sure. But I didn't necessarily, like, grow up in a hunting family. So it. I have, you know, come to it. But I love it because, like, all the things you said, it's the circle of life. It just feels so good. To be able to like, provide for your family in that way and also like in their family, which I love from the very beginning, that eating kind of more seeds seasonally. You know, in the summer we eat more fish and.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Springs crawfish and. And we all look forward to deer season because we're like, can't wait for that first, like, deer steak and all those things. It's like fun season.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Korie Robertson]

It's kind of like part of our family rhythm that we just love. So I will. I love to. Now I'm like, now in my empty nesting. Used to. I was like, we can't both be hunters. Like, you got to get up early and you're out there and I'm home with the kids and all that kind of stuff. But now I'm like, dying. I'm like, take me on a date in the woods. I love it. It's so fun.

[Willie Robertson]

And we tried this.

[Host/Interviewer]

So cute.

[Korie Robertson]

It's really.

[Host/Interviewer]

Take me on a date in the woods.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

So we were trying to slip in. It's not. And we have a camera guy. So it's not as romantic as you're.

[Host/Interviewer]

Watching.

[Willie Robertson]

Everything because I'm always filming all the. Especially the lines. And so we were trying to slip in. So we hunted right around. It was actually the same road kind of deal as our daughter and her husband.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

So they were after this bigger, bigger buck. And we. This is on our place. So we. I was very aware of this buck. And so we were over here. We got a terrible. We were in a bad setup. The wind was bad. And so long story short, we didn't see deer. They saw a bunch of deer. Didn't see him. But then she wasn't going the next morning because she didn't want to wake up at the. That early. And they were going out of town. And so Cory and I slid into that.

[Korie Robertson]

Their spot.

[Willie Robertson]

Cory was gonna try to shoot that buck, and we just knew he was gonna see him. And we sat there till probably 8:30 and we had to go. And I said, we'll just. Just get a dough. So she. She gets her dough. And then the next day they came back to that spot and she got the big buck and she FaceTimed us. She FaceTimed and was like so excited. She was like, I got him. And so we could see him over there.

[Korie Robertson]

And they've been hunting. They've gone to that same.

[Willie Robertson]

Wow.

[Host/Interviewer]

So satisfying. And it's. It's funny, I. My kids at one point, you know, let them post a picture of a little buck that My daughter got. It's probably 10 years ago. And, I mean, I knew what was gonna kind of come with that. Insane. I thought I knew. Yeah, absolutely insane. And the number of uneducated people who, again, just think it magically appears in a grocery store. It was. I mean, the threats you get, it was. It was. It was crazy.

[Korie Robertson]

You know, I think that that has changed a little bit over the years. Used to, we got a lot more of that, like, early on, and I don't know if it had to do with our show being on television and we had that meal. One of the reasons we had the meal at the end of the episode was to show that, because we wanted to show people, like, no, we're not just hunting to hunt. It's like it feeds our family, you know, so we intentionally put that meal at the end of the episode for that reason, and it ended up just having a real impact on people. But I do think that that has shifted. And now that people are like, oh, more aware of the hormones that they're putting in the. There is a resurgence of people saying, like, oh, actually, this is, you know, a better way to eat, and there's something to living this way. So I do think that some of that has shifted. And not that we still don't get it. I mean, if we post, but we're. Sometimes we're gonna get it.

[Willie Robertson]

A little bit.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, right.

[Willie Robertson]

So they're probably thinking, oh, no, they're falling.

[Korie Robertson]

That's true.

[Host/Interviewer]

Again, educating. I was trying to think about another show that incorporated the faith aspect as much as yours ever.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

I mean, obviously, you take out, like, the evangelical. No, there. There is no other show that has ever done that. And fortunately, we can all keep going back and watching reruns. And then the revival, of course, now too. But I feel like, gosh, now more than ever, we need you and to continue to do it. Not just what you're doing, but the way you're doing it by always leading with faith. I'm an optimistic person. Glass half full. But this world is scary right now, and it's. And it's crazy. So do you feel that? Do you feel that? I mean, I know that we can all kind of contain ourselves in our homes and just go hide. And obviously, you're still doing the television show, but, like, I feel like we need you now more than ever.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, I think a couple of things. One is one of the reasons you didn't see it as much, we didn't try to go too far with it. Doug. Dynasty is not a Religious show.

[Korie Robertson]

No.

[Willie Robertson]

So what happens is Christians, and from a good heart, I think. But they're like. They want to try to put too much in there. It's like cooking a meal when you're like, all right, you got enough stuff in there, you know, like. And so they won't. They're like, well, we got to tell this, then we got to tell that. Well, we gotta make sure. And what happens is, it's so heavy with all this, you lose the entertainment value, because it's almost. It's a weird well.

[Host/Interviewer]

And it also seems that it's not genuine.

[Willie Robertson]

Right.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's, like, forced.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

It's almost like you're trying to.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

You weren't trying to teaching that. We're like, we're just gonna have fun. It's a prayer. Like, my father always wanted more. He's like, we need more preaching on the show. I'm like, dad, this is not that show. If you want to come later and listen to a podcast, if you want to read one of our books, if you want to get deeper, we can go deeper. But we let that be to where you didn't have to. It wasn't just overtly in your face. No, not at all. And if you're, you know, an atheist, you can't watch this and have any enjoyment from it at all. And so. So I think that was key. I do think the world is scary. Corey and I were just recently. We've been talking about this for a couple of weeks. I mean, just read the New Testament. It's not like it was then. Way scarier. The Book of Acts is. Christians are just literally getting mowed down and killed.

[Korie Robertson]

You know, which they are again today in different parts of the world.

[Willie Robertson]

Not here. I'm saying. Not mean. I think when we're saying it's scary, I think. I think a lot of times we're referencing America. And so it came, and so I was seeing people's faith really emerge from that. It's kind of like what we talked about with the trials, like, when we got married. Like, it makes you stronger. And so sometimes you find out really where that faith is. I don't know. The problem is, I don't know that we have had as much faith as we thought we did. I think Covid exposed that. So church is full, and then Covid comes, and then, like, churches drop, like 30 to 40% of their whole. People just left and just said, well. And I remember talking to pastors, and they're like, they just left. I can't believe it. And I'm like, well, you're the one that's been talking to them for the last 10 years. What have you been telling them? Like, how deep does this go? If there's a.0001% chance that you may get Covid and die and so you don't show up to meet with your church? In the New Testament, there was a 100% chance you were going to get killed because of your faith. And these people would just continue to go more and more in that. And so I think we kind of learn probably more about this, probably the shallowness of what people consider even faith, like, you know, which is essentially for a lot of people. I go to church, you know, when I can, you know, and that really doesn't say anything. It just says you're geographically located in a certain building, you know, for a few times out of the year. And so I think to find that real deep faith, found that you're walking with God. And that's why with our show, it couldn't help but like, that's going to ooze out of us because that's who we are. And so you're going to see not necessarily religiousness or preaching, but you're hopefully, you see the fruits of the spirit. You see love and joy and peace and patience and kindness, and you see these things flowing out. That's what comes out. And you can still be funny and you can still have a weird look on life and think things are funny and have that. So I think that's hopefully what we were trying to do. And what we try to do, even with entertainment is not just shove it down someone's throat and then also try to figure out how to communicate with people who you really just don't like. And I can't stand how they. How they're ugly and they're, you know, maybe ugly speaking and, you know, and I'm still looking at them going, well, I've been the same way to the Lord. The Lord's looked at me going, well, that is really not, you know, that is ugly. And that's the way you're thinking or the way you're saying stuff. And so I think, okay, well, how do we communicate with. With these people as well, Even the people we don't like, even the people who you would go like. And so it's not just like, if I were to say, the world's going to hell in a handbasket, maybe true, but the question is, what are we going to do about it? So do we just gather up in Our little situation and put up the tent, say, well, you know, as far as us right here. But there's still the message of Jesus in the New Testament was we go, we go and we continue to go and still try to do that, no matter how hard it gets, no matter if people don't like you. And our people say it's crazy, hopefully, you know, we can, the message can't get through. We just think about different ways to package the message. Doesn't change, but how you deliver it can.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

So how you can do that in entertainment, how you can do that. You know, churches are one thing, but a lot of people aren't going to go there. So they. So you got to find, like, my father was converted at a bar, you know, by a preacher, went and talked to him at a bar, you know, and something like, well, how do we get to people that aren't going to show up? And how do we continue to. You know, the Bible says the Apostle Paul said he prayed constantly that the mystery of the gospel could come out of his mouth more clearly. And so he knew it. Like he wrote half the New Testament. So. But why is he still praying? Because some weren't. He couldn't get through to people. And so I think when the issues come up of today and the stuff that we all see on the news and so, and I just try to put that through the lens of, okay, well, how do we, you know, how can we come off of that? How can we share good news out of that rather than just all bad news?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

Like, God didn't call us to be the bearer of bad news. Like, we can all sit here for an hour and just talk about how bad things are.

[Host/Interviewer]

Of course.

[Willie Robertson]

But that's not. Our job is to bear bad news. Our job is to bear good news. So we gotta have answers and hope and forgiveness and redemption. I mean, all these things are such great aspects of who we follow and what we are. And so we just gotta. One, we gotta live that out, manifest that, and be essentially ambassadors for the Lord. We're here representing that and knowing we have the hope of living again. My father just passed away this past summer and there was more joy, way more joy than sadness. We were like, ah, he did it. He's there. That man talked about every day of his life, about when we leave this earth and what's next. And so that hopefully should create a different way you live your life.

[Host/Interviewer]

Absolutely.

[Willie Robertson]

And so we've got to show that and show that to people who are just in the dark and blind by it and can't see it or caught up in whatever they're at. So that's the mission.

[Host/Interviewer]

How would you advise younger parents? Because I see people. There's, like, a yearning for it again. There really is. I think that's the blessing to come from so much of this darkness is that people like, okay, we can't choose to live this way. So, yeah. For younger parents who really want to make sure that their kids grow up like yours, knowing that Jesus is their Lord and savior and to lead with that, what would you guys tell? Because you did a beautiful job.

[Korie Robertson]

Well, as you asked that question, I was thinking about the hope of there's revival happening. They named our show the Revival, and we had no idea. Actually, A and E came up.

[Willie Robertson]

We didn't name it. Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, you're serious.

[Korie Robertson]

I'm serious.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, gosh.

[Korie Robertson]

And when they said it, we were like, whoa. That's kind of like a lot of spiritual implication. And you're seeing it. I was thinking about, like, in the sports world. I mean, how many athletes are now talking about Jesus? Like bullets blatantly talking about it. And you hear about sports teams that are, like, coming together and having.

[Host/Interviewer]

The networks aren't editing it out.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

Do you know some of the college players or something?

[Host/Interviewer]

Look at my quarterback, Mendoza from Indiana. There's mine. Like, every interview, he starts with that. So starting interrupting. When you see that if these kids are leading the way, it's amazing to.

[Korie Robertson]

See that the younger generation is really, like you said, leading. They are so interested and they are rejecting. They're trying to figure out, like, okay, what's true. Because in this world now, when we don't really know what's true. Nothing. You can't really trust anything. It's like, okay, now we need to go and find out actually what is true. And I think young people are really searching for that. I have a lot of hope for this next generation. I feel like they are, like, yearning for something more. So I would say that is parents just, like, point them to something bigger than them. That's something we tried to do with our kids when they were little, is be like, look, it's not all about you. There's something bigger than you, and that's a good thing. Like, God is so much bigger and there's so much more to this life than, like, what this little thing that you might be dealing with right now, you know, and whether that's on social media or whether that's the friend at the, you know, the cafeteria table or whatever, there's there's more to this life, and it's deeper. And God loves you and he's with you and he's for you. And just that I think that sharing that with our kids and treating them like, hey, you can do more. You're not just called to, like, just live in this. Like, little, little. You have the power. The spirit of God lives in you, and you have the power through that. And, you know, not living in fear, not. Not accepting that we're the most anxious generation and we can't do anything. Like, no, like, you can have the spirit of God living in you, and you can walk in that. And there's confidence that comes in that. There's purpose, there's meaning that comes in that. So I think just trusting our kids with that saying, like, hey, there's more. There's more to you. And that comes through knowledge of Jesus and following him and just walking in his way, not in the way of the world.

[Willie Robertson]

You got to live it out. You got to be authentic. And so you can't. You're saying you can't. You can't just say it. And then hopefully they, you know, people are saying, oh, we're supposed to go to church so we can be. But then they're looking at their parents going, they ain't really, you know, because you can see what's important. And so if you're saying those things, but yet, if you follow someone's life and you realize the main thing they want to make sure happens. I want good grades. I want to make sure we get this college paid for. I want to make sure this. Sports. Oh, my gosh, sports. Don't get me started. It's a religion. It is a religion. I mean, people literally are bound down to whatever, you know, I'm afraid I always pick on him. I'll call him every night. I'm like, what church we at tonight? Cross country, Soccer, baseball. I mean, it's just.

[Ad Narrator]

And the travel.

[Willie Robertson]

And the travel and the money that's spent. So if you think about. Think about a religion, what you think about a traditional religion or church or ministry, you look at the amount of time and those parents are just like, they sacrifice everything in their life. Everything is going for those years of doing that. And at the end of the day, what Exactly. Not that, like the Bible says, not that there's not some benefit, but when that is your number one thing the kid knows, like, it ain't going to church. It ain't studying the Bible when it comes to that. I know what my parents are serious About. And if you live that, don't be shocked when they, when they're completely bankrupt, when they're in college going, is this all that life is? I just literally lived my whole life for baseball and it ended when I left high school, you know, and like now I've got to figure it out now what. You know, now what's there. And so that's something I see. And I think also we're talking about COVID with the, with the parents. One of the, one of the things I've seen that's really odd is most of the time parents are telling their kids something. It goes along with what they're doing or how they're living. For instance, if two parents are morbidly obese, you don't see them telling their kids, like, you have to eat healthy because it's like, what y' all ain't, you know, so usually we're all gonna be morbid. You know, it's like you look at the whole family because you can say, oh, that's, that's that pattern that's happening. But I find with the phones and stuff, it's so weird to me that, you know, you're looking at your kids and you need to get off that phone. You're on that thing too much, but yet you're just a slave to it yourself. And that to me, that looks so phony because the kids going, really? Really, Mom? Because you're sitting there just.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, true.

[Willie Robertson]

I sit behind people on the planes and I just watch them what they, they. It's the craziest thing. It's like they're just like incessantly going through it and then they put it down and they look for like. And then it's back up and it's this thing. And then I just, it's my entertainment on the fly. I just watch them do this and it's just like swipe. And then. And this is a 48 year old woman, you know, I'm like, what? She's doing, like, and you're just. And so. And you can. And when that's a 13 year old kid, of course they're, you know, of.

[Host/Interviewer]

Course that's the example that we're giving them.

[Willie Robertson]

And it's just feeding that beast. And so that's one thing I see for young parents is to say, if you're gonna lay that rule down, if you're gonna say, here's the changes I would like to see, especially we know what the social media stuff does, then you have to commit to that as well. You have to say, look, when you look at me. I cannot be that. That guy who's just, you know, I mean, it's in our own home. It's in. We're sitting at the dinner time, like, what the heck? What are you doing? You know? So my new rule for this year is, like, you have to announce what it is, because I get it sometimes. Like, there's times I'm like, I'm sorry, there's a driver out here, and I have to let him know you know where I'm at. And so I need to. You know. But you should just announce what it is. Like, hey, I'm fixing to mindlessly look at things. Football scores for the next five minutes, I just want everybody to know I'm gonna be. And then I'm gonna go from there to Instagram, and I'm just gonna scroll through for about three minutes. Just want everybody to know what I'm doing. And if you can do that, if you want to lay that out and say, that's what I'm doing, then go ahead, buddy.

[Host/Interviewer]

Get that phone out.

[Willie Robertson]

Other than that, I'm gonna make them go outside. Be like, the new smokey.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

Get outside.

[Host/Interviewer]

I like that.

[Willie Robertson]

If you want to go outside and stand there, you know.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

But during smoking, during dinner, let's just have a rule, you know?

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

You got 30 minutes, if that.

[Ad Narrator]

Right.

[Host/Interviewer]

Put it away.

[Korie Robertson]

Right.

[Host/Interviewer]

And that's for all of us.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

So if you picked up your phone. But then I would be like, crap. Because you real. And it makes you pick up yours.

[Host/Interviewer]

It does.

[Willie Robertson]

Then you go, shoot. And then Cory's gonna go, oh, okay.

[Host/Interviewer]

We're all.

[Willie Robertson]

And then y' all are both. And then we're all gonna be addicting.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

You know, looking like idiots, doing the podcast.

[Korie Robertson]

Contagious.

[Willie Robertson]

We're all on our.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And that's what. When somebody else sees it, then it. There's like. It's some kind of reminder. Oh, yeah. Well, then I should be. And then that's why. You see, it drives me crazy. It's.

[Host/Interviewer]

You just did. You all did a beautiful job. And you still are. And you still are. And I know. I'm gonna wrap this up. I could talk to you all day, and then you'll hate me, and I'm gonna stalk you for the rest of our time on Life Surge anyway, so I can't make you hate me on day one, so I'll behave here. Get you guys out of here in a second. How many grandkids now?

[Korie Robertson]

Nine.

[Willie Robertson]

Nine.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's What I thought.

[Korie Robertson]

And we have twins on the way.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Korie Robertson]

Coming next month, so we're so excited.

[Ad Narrator]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Do you realize she is the hottest grandma? Aw. Like, that's ridiculous. We are the exact same age. Actually, I'm a year older than you. I'm November of 72.

[Korie Robertson]

You're 70?

[Host/Interviewer]

73. Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

You're 72.

[Host/Interviewer]

Wow. And I am not ready to be a grandma.

[Korie Robertson]

It's the best life. I'm telling you. You're gonna love it. I mean, in due time. In due time. But it's so much fun.

[Host/Interviewer]

You are stunning. And I know you know that. Everybody knows that.

[Korie Robertson]

And I would not have guessed you were a year older than me. So you are amazing. So. Yes.

[Host/Interviewer]

Okay.

[Korie Robertson]

This is a love fest.

[Host/Interviewer]

Can you make sure we're recording this part? Inspire kids and my husband. No, thank you. But. But that is. I feel like that's what leads you now. That's what guides you now, obviously, marriage is number one and always should be, but those nine plus grandbabies.

[Korie Robertson]

Yes.

[Host/Interviewer]

What has that been like?

[Korie Robertson]

It is so much fun. It's better. I mean, I knew I'd love being a grandmother because I love being a mom, but it's even better. It's like all the good and all the fun and none of the bad. You just get to enjoy. So I love it. But also, it gives you a greater sense of, like, oh, there's another generation coming that we got to make this world good for. You know, I think that we've been talking about that lately how especially in the American culture, you kind of think just now, you know, there's, I think, other cultures and other parts of the world, like, you think more generationally and how important that is for us.

[Willie Robertson]

Americans are, like, super short.

[Host/Interviewer]

We're very.

[Willie Robertson]

Next year, next two years.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Korie Robertson]

Because we do live. My grandmother lives on our property, 94 years old. To my newest grandbaby, you know, who's six months. Six months. So we've got five generations living right there. But having grandbabies, it gives every news. You're like, all right, we got to get going. Like, we don't have time to waste. Like, I want to have a good world for them to grow up in. And you see, you hear the news. Of course, we all look and see, like, oh, our world's about to change. Lot with all the things that are coming. We're about to enter a phase that is going to be really different, probably, than what we've ever known before. And so, like, what's important in life? How do we dig some deep roots for these kids and grandkids so that, like, whenever the world changes and all the winds are blowing, that their roots are so deep that they're strong and they're not going to topple over, you know, and so I think that's for us. Now we're like, okay, what do we need to pass on to the next generation? As we actually read Arthur Brooks From Strength to Strength. Have you read that book? Oh, it's so good. It's like in your 50s and kind of like how you make that shift going from strength to strength and what things served you when you were younger. Now, how do you turn that into helping the next generation and mentoring the next generation? So I'm actually writing a book kind of about this, so I've been doing a lot of thinking about it. And yeah, those grandkids are very physical reminders of like, we need to pass something on. We need to not let the things that were. That are important to us and important to our family die with us. We have to pass that on and it's up to us to do that. As you know, now, the older generation, which is crazy to say, but that's where we are.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, it is crazy how fast it has gone. And I'm like, please, Lord, slow down. You know, may will be a year since your dad passed. How are you?

[Willie Robertson]

Oh, good. Yeah. I think about. It's duck season right now, so. Yeah, I've been thinking about Phil a lot. The sad thing about Alzheimer's is watching them go down mentally so bad. I guess a small positive is when they pass. I think everyone is ready. Everyone's ready for them to. Because you realize they're not. You realize how upset they would be knowing the condition that they're in. My dad would have just been like, ah, to realize where he was mentally. And so, yeah, so it's kind of that bittersweet thing. So it's really enjoying those moments when he was still, you know, had cognitive skills and could do stuff. And then, you know, he got to a certain point where he just couldn't. He had no idea what was going on. And so, yeah, but again, that's where the faith really is. That's the message that he taught me how to, you know, tell other people in the message of hope and what the gospel had done for him and really our whole family. And I'll probably speak to that today when we're talking. Is that because people do say, like, I'm so glad you're bold about your faith. I'M like, had it not been for faith, none of this would have happened. My family would have split up. They were divorced. I mean, they were on the way to divorce. Separated. He was awful. It was over, you know, moved in different states. They didn't live with each other. And. And were it not for the gospel coming into their lives, dad changing his life completely, giving it over to Jesus Christ, who he knew nothing about, mom having the same faith, converting to it, and then giving her the ability at that point to forgive Phil for being such a terrible person and terrible husband, keeping that family together. And if. If it would have just been for that family, I'd have been happy because that was my mom and dad. And so now where dad wasn't there and he was abusive and all that, now he's there, and now they're praying, but he just started catching fire. He's like, I gotta go tell everybody I know how this changed my life. So that's why now we're talking about 50 years later. That's why that message is so important. Because none of this. None of this would happen. I wouldn't have met her. Like, who knows what?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, everything's different.

[Willie Robertson]

My life would be completely. I've been broken home. Maybe I'm a believer, maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm a horrible person. Who knows, you know, and so that's why we just go back going, yeah, that's why, you know, and so we're not gonna be ashamed about this, because it's the whole reason. Yes, everything we have, we have now. As it turns out, the Lord was like, okay, I got something. As Corey said, that preparation started beginning for life, you know, because I think we were growing up, we were all pretty good storytellers. And probably one of the best things we had was no phone. We didn't even have a tv. We had, like, three channels.

[Host/Interviewer]

I know.

[Willie Robertson]

And so we learned how to teach.

[Host/Interviewer]

We had the best upbringing because of that.

[Willie Robertson]

We learned how to tell stories. We sat around that dinner table and I listened to stories, and we would tell stories, and we would. And so television is nothing more than telling stories. You know, it's just telling stories through pictures. And so we had all kind of gotten good at that and then. And so that's why that we always, you know, are going to bring that up, because you never know. You never know who this is going to affect and where. You know, where I see somebody, like, if you looked at Phil Robertson in the late 60s, be like, that guy's, you know, stay away from him. You know, and for somebody to see that, and his sister actually did, was like. And she said, if you convert that guy, he'll convert thousands of people for the Lord. I don't know how she saw that. Like, how did she know that?

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And that's exactly what happened when he.

[Korie Robertson]

Was at his worst, where most people would have said, give up on him. Get away from him when he's being.

[Host/Interviewer]

Hurtful to his kids. You guys were afraid. I mean. Yeah, yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

And so for all that to happen. So there's nobody I can't look at today go, like, you know, no matter what. I'm like, well, hey, the gospel will come in. And, you know, the Bible says, I'm not ashamed of the gospel, for it has the power. It has the power. It's not us as the deliverer. That message has power.

[Korie Robertson]

Yes.

[Willie Robertson]

When you step back and see it, you're like, whoa, look at what happened. Look at how it can totally change lives. It can change communities, it can change countries. It can change. It can change everything. That's why I'm positive. And that's why I look and say, maybe we just need to figure out a better way to get the gospel out there.

[Korie Robertson]

Our new season releases March 7th of the revival, and the first episode is a tribute episode to Phil.

[Ad Narrator]

Awesome.

[Korie Robertson]

And after I got to watch it already, and I just was bawling when it was over, and I was like, this is the whole reason we did the revival. I mean, it is. It's so powerful because Phil. There's a lot of clips of Phil, and. And he. He basically says that on television.

[Willie Robertson]

Don't tell me how it ends.

[Korie Robertson]

He says that. And it is. It was, you know, because we decided to do this new season, and we were. You know, we were kind of like, you know, life's good. Should we get back in television in this way? We still been entertainment and in a lot of other ways. And we're actually, you know, launching a platform, streaming platform, and all these things that we've been working on. But we were like, do we kind of go back in. In this way and make a TV show about our family again? And we decided to do it. And I saw the cut of this episode that's coming, the first episode, and I was like, that's why we did it right there. Because Phil says so plainly, the gospel. And he talks about. There's clips where he talks about marriage and relationship and all these things that people need to hear, you know, And I'm like, okay, this is why we did it. And it's really powerful. I don't even think you've watched it yet, but it is. It is.

[Host/Interviewer]

Are you going to.

[Willie Robertson]

I probably watch that one.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Before. I mean, before debuts in March.

[Willie Robertson]

Now I'll watch it with everybody.

[Korie Robertson]

You'll watch it with everybody when it comes out?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. So.

[Korie Robertson]

But it is. It's really powerful, and it definitely is, like, okay, that's the reason.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's the why.

[Korie Robertson]

That's the reason we did it. Yeah.

[Ad Narrator]

All the years.

[Host/Interviewer]

I mean, how cool. And I have a grandmother. I lost Alzheimer's. And I think it's the cruel. It's just the cruelest disease. And especially at the beginning, they know it's happening, and then you just see it. But what a blessing to have had so many years on film, like you said on tape. To look back and for your grandkids to be able to see the whole reason why they are here, that's a blessing. Despite all the chaos and the friendship losses and the relationship changes and the tough times, like, okay, we have this forever, long after you're gone. That's amazing. My final thing is, I guess where we started, and I didn't mean for this to happen, but I love the way you two look at each other. It's evident on TV and clips and, you know, things I've watched through the years more recently. But like, this today, honestly, like, it's. It's amazing. It's just special. It's real. It's very.

[Willie Robertson]

Oh, crap. Now everybody's starting to cry.

[Host/Interviewer]

No, it's just real. Like, I'm watching this, and I. And to start with, the pictures from. And I didn't even scroll through, all the ones that you don't know that you posted, they're really. It's like, it is a true love story. And when you can still look at each other and, like, want to be in the same room, want to work together, I mean, it's one thing to be partners and husband and wife, but when you choose to work together, like, every day, I mean, you're best friends.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah, we are. We are. We got to grow up together. We started young, and we feel like.

[Willie Robertson]

Well, that was the thing.

[Korie Robertson]

We were such a blessing. We did. And we've allowed each other to change together and grow together and always say, it's like 34 years of marriage. It's not like everything's perfect or ever has been, you know, but it's like continually coming back together and choosing one another over and over and over again. And I think that's what we've Been able to do. And it's a gift.

[Host/Interviewer]

What do you love the most about each other?

[Korie Robertson]

Well, he makes me laugh a lot, as you can tell. He definitely Phil. So Phil would always. He'd come every time he had this, like, kind of things he'd say to each of his daughter in laws, the same thing every time. And he'd say, what's it like being married to Willie? And I would say, it's never boring. And he'd be like. And Willie said when he'd grow up, he would tell them, like, don't be boring. That was like the best compliment for me to say, like, it's never boring.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah. He would say, life is full of boring people. Don't be one of them.

[Host/Interviewer]

Don't be one of them. That's right.

[Willie Robertson]

So you want to have good, good stories.

[Korie Robertson]

He makes me laugh. He takes good care of us. He cooks for us. And most importantly, he loves God and is passionate about his relationship with God and his relationship with us.

[Host/Interviewer]

With me.

[Korie Robertson]

He writes me sweet love letters still. And loves our kids very well. Writes them notes that make me cry. He's a softy. Underneath it all. Underneath it all, underneath the beard. He's got these really cute dimples under that beard too. That.

[Host/Interviewer]

When's the last time you saw that?

[Willie Robertson]

When's the last time I shaved? 2007.

[Korie Robertson]

A long time.

[Willie Robertson]

It was 2007.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Willie Robertson]

That was the last time I saw. And I didn't get the look that I wanted.

[Host/Interviewer]

What do you mean?

[Willie Robertson]

Like, I cut the beard and I came out. I thought she was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I forgot. What was that? She was like, oh, wow.

[Korie Robertson]

I was like, so sensitive.

[Willie Robertson]

Oh, no.

[Host/Interviewer]

So you grew it back.

[Willie Robertson]

I said, I will never shave this.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh, those young pictures. You do have adorable dimples.

[Willie Robertson]

Yes, I can. Yeah, I know what I look like because I see my. See my kids.

[Korie Robertson]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

I mean, Sadie. I mean, she's you.

[Korie Robertson]

She is insane.

[Host/Interviewer]

Like all of us.

[Willie Robertson]

Yeah. I think Cory's just so solid. Such a. I mean, my favorite thing is how she is with the family, like how much she cares about the kids and now the grandkids. And so. Yeah, it's just. And that's what I was hoping, like when we got. When we got married, because I knew she was gonna hold up on the attractive scale. I'd already done the math. And I said, yeah, she's got the right. She's gonna be a grandma, but she's still gonna have it. And so see, if she would have been a super Good cook. She may have been a little bit more girthy and. Which would have been fine. Which would have been fine.

[Korie Robertson]

I got a problem.

[Willie Robertson]

So I knew that. But I knew she had such a passion for children and teaching. And so just watching her with the kids, because through all this chaos, because I think probably what the biggest fear was when we were talking about the show is you're going to lose your family and your kids are going to hate. You mentioned like Covid and like, I mean, that's the number one thing. Whether you're Christian or not a Christian. You're weared to death about your kids, you know, and you want desperately for them to be happy and for us to have faith and to understand what life is about. And so watching her be able to pour that into them, through not being famous, through not having money, then through the fame and through the television, through all the stuff, has guided. And she has been such a constant force. Not that I haven't been there and played my part, but relationally, they're like best friends. I mean, they talk every day, all of them. And we were just talking about that plowing up everywhere. And I said, it's hard. It's hard with six kids to have that much. And now six has turned into five are married. And so you've got 10 human beings and now you have the grandkids. And so you start doing the time. If you just start budgeting time, like I spend this much time with this one. And so. But we. I think that the tricks we've learned is to we work so if they want to, we can work together so we can figure out a way to make income to pay for this stuff. And there's a real sharedness in that where we're able to work together and have that. And if it's not the case, that's fine. It just gives us a lot more to talk about because we do all this stuff together. She did that with her family, I did it with mine. And now we can see fruits of that growing like that. So I think that's what's most wherever I'm at, wherever, you know, because I travel a lot and I speak a lot and I pour, you know, pour out to a lot more people. I think God's got me on a certain mission, especially with some messaging that I'm, you know, telling people about sharing their faith and about, especially a lot of men and that we. That we need that to be confident and powerful for God, for the kingdom of God. So God's got me doing this stuff. And it's hard this day. It's hard to go like, well, I want to affect the kingdom of God, but also I want to have this balanced life, and I want to be home, man. I read the New Testament. There just wasn't a lot of balance there, man. These cats were just going and just pouring it all out and saying, hey, our reward will be in heaven, you know, and we saw that with Phil when he passed away. We never talked about, bottom lines, how much money he made playing football, you know, Terry Bradshaw, whatever. All we talked about was the people that he affected in his life. The people who were there is like, you know, were it not for your dad, I wouldn't be here, you know? And so that's what's really most important. You're talking about the eternal things. And so I think that's my favorite thing about Corey is what she's done with the importance and value of this family. Because we have, you know, our top three things are faith, family, and ducks or whatever the last one is, you know, whatever you do. So that faith has been top, and then that family's been second. You have to keep it in that order. And so she's definitely done that. So good job, bro.

[Host/Interviewer]

Thanks, babe. You guys are such a blessing that we have been able to witness for all these years. I'm so glad about the revival, the word of the phrasing that whoever give them credit for that title, but for where we are today. And I just think it's so, so needed and in marriage. So your, you know, hashtag goals, your goals for me, when the kids start pumping out kids of their own, I'm gonna call you. What do I do?

[Korie Robertson]

I just did a podcast, and with Sadie, and we were talking about our New Year's resolutions, and I said one of mine was Grandma Hard, because I was going with G these G things. And she started laughing, and I was like, I know. It's like, I want to go hard in the paint on Grandma Ing this year. And she was like, you are. You go hard on grandma.

[Willie Robertson]

Hard in the paint.

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Harden the paintball now too.

[Korie Robertson]

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I gotta be there.

[Willie Robertson]

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God bless you, but thank you. Thank you for guiding and for leading and for being role models and the best possible and for doing, for being vulnerable and real. We need more, but there's never gonna be anybody else like you.

[Korie Robertson]

A thank you. This was.

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