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The Secret Sauce
Hosted by Mukul Deora · EN
The Secret Sauce Podcast - a thought-provoking show that decodes the science and systems behind better health, performance, and decision-making. Hosted by Oscar-nominated filmmaker and entrepreneur Mukul Deora, it cuts through the noise with depth, intelligence, and conversations that make you think differently. Tune in every Thursday for world-class conversations that sharpen how you think, live, and lead.
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The Woman Who Built Apollo Beyond Hospitals | Shobana Kamineni | Mukul Deora | E28
6d ago01:02:45Tap to summarizeShobana Kamineni is the force behind Apollo HealthCo, a triple-unicorn healthcare business built across Apollo 24|7, Keimed, and Apollo Pharmacy.In this episode of The Secret Sauce Podcast, Mukul Deora speaks with Shobana Kamineni about what it takes to build and scale healthcare businesses inside one of India’s most respected healthcare groups. She shares the story behind Apollo Pharmacy, the creation of Keimed’s medicine distribution network, and the rise of Apollo 24|7 as a digital healthcare platform built for modern India.The conversation explores how Apollo transitioned from being hospital-led to becoming an integrated healthcare ecosystem covering medicine delivery, doctor consultations, diagnostics, health records, AI, and preventive healthcare. Shobana also explains why the biggest opportunity in healthcare is not only treating illness, but also helping people detect risks early and manage their health better over time.From building teams and handling failure to selling Apollo Munich, scaling during COVID-19, and aligning Apollo’s businesses into a single ecosystem, this episode offers a rare look into how a triple-unicorn healthcare business is built.This episode covers:How Apollo HealthCo became a triple-unicorn healthcare businessThe story behind Apollo 24|7, Keimed and Apollo PharmacyWhy 80% of healthcare happens outside the hospitalHow digital health records can change patient careWhy AI in healthcare will support doctors, not replace themThe importance of preventive healthcare, whole body MRI and genetic testingHow early detection can reduce the cost of diseaseWhat India’s healthcare future could look likeWatch this episode to understand the future of healthcare in India.
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A Top Radiologist Reveals What Your Health Checkup Misses | Dr. Anirudh Kohli | Mukul Deora | E27
2w ago01:17:20Tap to summarizeMost people wait for symptoms before taking their health seriously. But some of the biggest risks, heart disease, fatty liver, visceral fat, aneurysms and metabolic syndrome, can build silently for years.In this episode Dr. Anirudh Kohli, radiologist and CEO of Breach Candy Hospital, to understand how preventive imaging can help detect hidden health risks before they become serious.Dr. Kohli breaks down the scans and tests that matter, from CT angio, calcium score and photon-counting CT to MRI, DEXA scan, ultrasound, brain MRI angiography and liver elastography. He explains why blood tests alone may not give the full picture, why Indians are at higher risk for early cardiovascular disease, and why visceral fat is one of the most important health markers to track.This conversation also explores the reality of executive health checkups, the fear around CT scan radiation, the rise of fatty liver due to metabolic syndrome, the limits of full body MRI, and why even fit people, runners and gym-goers can still carry serious hidden risks.We also discuss:• Why heart disease can be silent until it becomes dangerous• What calcium score actually reveals about your heart• When CT angio may be more useful than a basic checkup• Why visceral fat matters more than visible weight• How fatty liver can progress into liver damage• Whether full body MRI is truly worth doing• Why a brain MRI angiography may help detect aneurysm risk• What health scans to consider in your 30s, 40s and 50s• Why executive health checkups need to go beyond blood tests• How AI is changing radiology, diagnosis and medical imaging• Why self-diagnosis through Google or AI can create unnecessary panicThis episode is for anyone who wants to understand preventive health, early detection, medical imaging, heart disease risk, metabolic syndrome and the tests that can help people make better health decisions before symptoms appear.Watch till the end for a practical, age-wise understanding of preventive scans and what modern medicine can reveal before disease becomes urgent.Subscribe to The Secret Sauce for more conversations with doctors, experts, leaders and thinkers who decode health, longevity, performance, decision-making and the systems that shape our lives.
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India's Top Divorce Lawyer: Reveals What Actually Ends Marriages| Adv. Mrunalini Deshmukh | Mukul Deora| E26
3w ago01:41:02Tap to summarizeDivorce in India is often seen as the end of a marriage, but the reality is far more complicated. From emotional infidelity and family interference to legal delays, alimony, child custody, and social pressure, separation in India is rarely just about two people walking away.In this episode India's Top divorce lawyer Mrunalini Deshmukh explains why Indian marriages fail, why divorce cases are rising in urban India, and how divorce law in India can make the process emotionally and legally difficult.The conversation explores love marriage vs arranged marriage, cheating, open marriages, intimacy issues, ignored red flags before marriage, misuse of divorce laws, maintenance, child custody, and why some contested divorces can drag on for years.A deep, practical, and honest conversation on modern Indian marriages, divorce, and the hidden cracks that often appear long before a couple enters court.
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The Sleep Signs Every Parent Should Know| Dr. Indu Khosla| Mukul Deora| E25
4w ago01:16:35Tap to summarizeA child’s sleep problem doesn’t always look like a sleep problem. Sometimes it looks like poor focus, mood swings, anxiety, weight gain, bedwetting, mouth breathing, snoring, or a child who wakes up tired despite “sleeping enough.”In this episode, Dr. Indu Khosla explains why children’s sleep health is deeply connected to growth, immunity, learning, hormones, behaviour, breathing, and long-term development. She breaks down how child sleep problems change from infancy to teenage years, what parents often get wrong about bedtime, and why screens, overstimulation, routines, and delayed sleep cycles are affecting children more than ever.The conversation also covers sleep apnea in children, REM and non-REM sleep, melatonin, baby sleep training, toddler sleep habits, teenage sleep deprivation, parasomnia, sleepwalking, mouth breathing, snoring, and ADHD-like symptoms linked to poor sleep.If you’re a parent trying to understand what healthy sleep really looks like, this episode gives you a clear framework for what is normal, what is not, and what signs should never be ignored.Topics covered:How sleep needs change from infancy to teenage yearsWhy screens and overstimulation affect children’s sleepBaby sleep training and common bedtime mistakesToddler sleep habits and the importance of routineTeenage sleep deprivation and delayed sleep cyclesREM sleep, non-REM sleep, melatonin, and circadian rhythmSnoring, mouth breathing, bedwetting, and sleepwalkingSleep apnea in children and why it can be missedHow poor sleep can look like ADHD-like symptoms or anxiety
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Top neurosurgeon: A man couldn't stop laughing at his brother's funeral. Here's what we found inside his head. Dr. Mazda Turel | Mukul Deora | E24
May 1401:21:32Tap to summarizeYour brain is not just where you think. It is where your memory, sleep, behaviour, movement, judgement, personality and identity are being built every day.In this episode, neurosurgeon Dr. Mazda Turel takes us inside the human brain from awake brain surgery and brain tumour cases to sleep, alcohol, smoking, screen addiction, dopamine detox, AI, neuroplasticity and spine health. He explains what actually happens inside the brain when we sleep less, drink more, sit for too long, outsource thinking to AI, or ignore early neurological symptoms.This conversation also explores the surprising ways brain tumours can change a person’s humour, appetite, smell, emotions and personality and why the brain remains one of the most powerful, fragile and mysterious organs in the body.You’ll learn about:Awake brain surgery and how surgeons protect speech and movementThe 10% brain myth and how much of the brain we really useSleep, the glymphatic system and brain detoxAlcohol, smoking and their effect on brain healthText neck, spine pain and posture damageDopamine detox, screen overstimulation and AI’s effect on thinkingNeuroplasticity, ageing and how to keep the brain activeWatch this episode if you care about brain health, neuroscience, sleep, focus, ageing, and what modern life is quietly doing to your mind.
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India's top art auctioneer: I couldn't sell this painting for 4 lakh. It just crossed 40 crore| Mallika Sagar| Mukul Deora | E23.
May 701:34:30Tap to summarizeA painting sells for ₹100 crore. But how does that number actually happen?In this conversation with Mallika Saagar, India’s top art auctioneer, we demystify the Indian art market from how artworks move from artists to galleries, to how they enter auctions, to what really happens when collectors start bidding against each other.Mallika breaks down the difference between the primary and secondary art market, how auction houses work, what buyer’s premium means, why the hammer price is not the final price, and how terms like reserve price, provenance, rarity, medium, condition, and quality shape the value of Indian paintings.The conversation also goes deeper into the psychology of auctions: why people overbid, why some collectors hide their bids, why bidding can become emotional, and why patience matters if you’re looking at art as an investment.For anyone curious about Indian art, art auctions, collecting, luxury markets, or alternative asset classes, this episode is a sharp introduction to a world that is growing fast but still widely misunderstood.This episode covers:How artworks move from artists to galleries to collectorsWhat happens inside a live art auctionPrimary market vs secondary market in artBuyer’s premium, GST, hammer price, and hidden costsReserve price, estimates, and how bidding startsHow provenance, rarity, medium, and condition affect valueWhy collectors sometimes overbid or hide their bidsThe psychology, ego, and adrenaline behind auctionsIndian art as an investment and asset classHow India’s art market compares with global markets
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This what reading can do to your brain | Reeta Ramamurthy Gupta | Mukul Deora | E22
Apr 3001:20:57Tap to summarizeWhat does reading actually do to your brain, your stress levels, your focus, and the way you live? In this conversation, Reeta Ramamurthy Gupta Asia’s 1st Reading Coach tells us why reading still matters in the age of endless scrolling, short-form content, screens, and constant stimulation. The discussion goes beyond “reading is good for you” and looks at what actually happens inside the brain when we read, why books activate deeper thinking, and how reading can shape the way we learn, respond, create, communicate, and understand other people.A major part of the conversation also looks at children, families, and the culture of reading at home. What do children learn when they are handed screens instead of stories? Why do conversations, books, and shared reading matter for a child’s development? And how can parents create an environment where curiosity, thinking, and learning are rewarded?This episode also explores the therapeutic side of reading how the right book can help someone process anger, anxiety, grief, identity, conflict, and emotional blocks. Books can become mirrors, mentors, interventions, and tools for self-mastery when chosen with the right context.In this conversation, you will learn:→Why reading is brain training, not just entertainment→How screens and scrolling affect focus, attention, and deep thinking→What reading does for stress, creativity, memory, and emotional control→Why paper reading and digital consumption affect the mind differently→How books help build empathy, patience, and cognitive flexibility→Why reading matters for children, families, and learning cultures→How stories can help us understand ourselves and others better→Why successful people often use reading as a tool for clarity and growth→How the right book can help change the way you think, respond, and liveIf you struggle to read, feel addicted to scrolling, want to build a sharper mind, or want to understand why books still matter in the modern world, this episode will give you a deeper reason to return to reading.
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The Best Formula For Longevity | Dr. Vishakha Shivdasani| Mukul Deora| E21
Apr 2301:27:42Tap to summarizeWhy do so many Indians struggle with metabolic health, sugar cravings, and rising diabetes risk even when they feel “fine”? In this conversation with Dr. Vishakha Shivdasani, Physician practicing metabolic health, longevity and disease reversal breaks down the real problem behind modern Indian health.This episode explores how the typical Indian diet, hidden insulin resistance, and everyday habits are quietly driving conditions like diabetes, fatty liver, and metabolic dysfunction. More importantly, it explains why most people only focus on treatment after disease shows up and what you can do to stay healthy before it’s too late.Dr. Shivdasani shares a practical, science-backed approach to metabolic health, including how to read your body beyond standard blood tests, why sugar cravings happen, and how small changes in nutrition, movement, and lifestyle can help reverse early-stage metabolic issues.In this episode, we cover:Why “normal” blood reports can still hide underlying problemsThe truth about sugar cravings and what actually drives themHow the Indian plate contributes to metabolic dysfunctionWhy medication often manages symptoms but doesn’t fix the root causeSimple daily habits that improve blood sugar and overall healthIf you care about improving your health, preventing disease, and understanding how your body really works, this conversation offers a clear starting point.Watch till the end for a deeper understanding of how to move from treating illness to truly staying well.
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The Doctor Every Indian Doctor Looks Up To Finally Speaks | Dr. Farokh E. Udwadia| Mukul Deora| E20
Apr 1601:24:29Summary readyWhen to let patients go is one of the hardest decisions in medicine, but it’s onlyone part of a much deeper conversation.In this episode, Dr. Farokh Udwadia, Padma Bhushan awardee and one ofIndia’s most respected physicians, reflects on how medicine has evolved andwhat it may have lost along the way. From building critical care in India todecades at the bedside, he brings a rare perspective on science, judgment, andthe human side of healing.The conversation explores how modern medicine, despite its advances, oftenrisks becoming mechanized, prioritizing reports, tests, and intervention overunderstanding the patient as a whole. He shares why clinical judgment, intuition,and empathy cannot be replaced by technology and how emotional distress oftenmanifests as physical illness.It also dives into some of the most difficult realities doctors face:over-medicalisation, unnecessary procedures, and the ethical dilemmas aroundend-of-life care. From ventilators and resuscitation to euthanasia and living wills,this episode examines when treatment stops being care and becomes prolongedsuffering.In this conversation, you’ll understand:● Why medicine may be losing its human touch● The difference between curing a disease and healing a patient● How judgment and experience shape better decisions than data alone● When life-saving treatment becomes prolonged suffering● What it means to practise medicine with integrity and compassionWatch till the end to rethink what medicine can do and what it should do
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India's Leading Cardiologist: This Is How You Avoid A Heart Attack | Dr. Kirti Punamiya | Mukul Deora | E19
Apr 201:27:38Tap to summarizeMost people think heart attacks happen because of age, weight, or obvious symptoms. This conversation challenges that assumption by examining heart attack causes and prevention, revealing why young, thin, and “healthy-looking” individuals remain at risk and what truly drives heart disease today.From the confusion around COVID and heart attacks to the role of inflammation and cholesterol, this episode breaks down the real causes of heart attacks and why early heart attack symptoms are often misunderstood or ignored. It offers a clearer understanding of how cardiovascular risk develops silently over time.Modern risk factors are explored in depth, including poor sleep, chronic stress, smoking, alcohol consumption, high-carbohydrate diets, and over-exercising. The discussion also addresses common assumptions about “healthy” living, showing that being vegetarian, lean, or physically active does not necessarily reduce heart disease risk and that internal damage can remain undetected.Key topics covered:Difference between heart attack, cardiac arrest, and artery blockageRising incidence of heart attacks in younger age groupsRole of inflammation alongside cholesterol in heart diseaseImpact of smoking, including occasional and passive exposureLimitations of vegetarian and carb-heavy diets for heart healthEffects of sleep deprivation, stress, and post-party workoutsImportance of early detection and understanding silent symptomsThis episode provides a structured, evidence-led perspective on heart attack causes, symptoms, and prevention and how long-term cardiovascular health is shaped by everyday decisions. Watch till the end to understand how risk builds silently and what factors influence it over time.
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