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The Secure Developer
Hosted by Snyk · EN
Securing the future of DevOps and AI: real talk with industry leaders.
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A Vision For The Future Of Enterprise AI Security With Sanjay Poonen
Dec 1600:27:30Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryThe future of cyber resilience lies at the intersection of data protection, security, and AI. In this conversation, Cohesity CEO Sanjay Poonen joins Danny Allan to explore how organisations can unlock new value by unifying these domains. Sanjay outlines Cohesity’s evolution from data protection to security in the ransomware era, to today’s AI-focused capabilities, and explains why the company’s vast secondary data platform is becoming a foundation for next-generation analytics.Show NotesIn this episode, Sanjay Poonen shares his journey from SAP and VMware to leading Cohesity, highlighting the company's mission to protect, secure, and provide insights on the world's data. He explains the concept of the "data iceberg," where visible production data represents only a small fraction of enterprise assets, while vast amounts of "dark" secondary data remain locked in backups and archives. Poonen discusses how Cohesity is transforming this secondary data from a storage efficiency problem into a source of business intelligence using generative AI and RAG, particularly for unstructured data like documents and images.The conversation delves into the technical integration of Veritas' NetBackup data mover onto Cohesity's file system, creating a unified platform for security scanning and AI analytics. Poonen also elaborates on Cohesity's collaboration with NVIDIA, explaining how they are building AI applications like Gaia on the NVIDIA stack to enable on-premises and sovereign cloud deployments. This approach allows highly regulated industries, such as banking and the public sector, to utilize advanced AI capabilities without exposing sensitive data to public clouds.Looking toward the future, Poonen outlines Cohesity's "three acts": data protection, security (ransomware resilience), and AI-driven insights. He and Danny Allan discuss the critical importance of identity resilience, noting that in an AI-driven world, the security perimeter shifts from network boundaries to the identities of both human users and autonomous AI agents.LinksCohesityNvidiaSnyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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Vulnerabilities In Enterprise AI Workflows With Nicolas Dupont
Dec 200:34:34Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryAs AI systems become increasingly integrated into enterprise workflows, a new security frontier is emerging. In this episode of The Secure Developer, host Danny Allan speaks with Nicolas Dupont about the often-overlooked vulnerabilities hiding in vector databases and how they can be exploited to expose sensitive data.Show NotesAs organizations shift their focus from training massive models to deploying them for inference and ROI, they are increasingly centralizing proprietary data into vector databases to power RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) and agentic workflows. However, these vector stores are frequently deployed with insufficient security measures, often relying on the dangerous misconception that vector embeddings are unintelligible one-way hashes.Nicolas Dupont explains that vector embeddings are simply dense representations of semantic meaning that can be inverted back to their original text or media formats relatively trivially. Because vector databases traditionally require plain text access to perform similarity searches efficiently, they often lack encryption-in-use, making them susceptible to data exfiltration and prompt injection attacks via context loading. This is particularly concerning when autonomous agents are over-provisioned with write access, potentially allowing malicious actors to poison the knowledge base or manipulate system prompts.The discussion highlights the need for a "secure by inception" approach, advocating for granular encryption that protects data even during processing without incurring massive performance penalties. Beyond security, this architectural rigor is essential for meeting privacy regulations like GDPR and HIPAA in regulated industries. The episode concludes with a look at the future of AI security, emphasizing that while AI can accelerate defense, attackers are simultaneously leveraging the same tools to create more sophisticated threats.LinksCyborgOWASP LLM Top 10Snyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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Autonomous Identity Governance With Paul Querna
Sep 2300:31:24Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryCan multi-factor authentication really “solve” security, or are attackers already two steps ahead? In this episode of The Secure Developer, we sit down with Paul Querna, CTO and co-founder at ConductorOne, to unpack the evolving landscape between authentication and authorisation. In our conversation, Paul delves into the difference between authorisation and authentication, why authorisation issues have only been solved for organisations that invest properly, and why that progress has pushed attackers toward session theft and abusing standing privilege.Show NotesIn this episode of The Secure Developer, host Danny Allan sits down with Paul Querna, CTO and co-founder of ConductorOne, to discuss the evolving landscape of identity and access management (IAM). The conversation begins by challenging the traditional assumption that multi-factor authentication (MFA) is a complete solution, with Paul explaining that while authentication is "solved-ish," attackers are now moving to steal sessions and exploit authorization weaknesses. He shares his journey into the identity space, which began with a realization that old security models based on firewalls and network-based trust were fundamentally broken.The discussion delves into the critical concept of least privilege, a core pillar of the zero-trust movement. Paul highlights that standing privilege—where employees accumulate access rights over time—is a significant risk that attackers are increasingly targeting, as evidenced by reports like the Verizon Data Breach Investigations Report. This is even more critical with the rise of AI, where agents could potentially have overly broad access to sensitive data. They explore the idea of just-in-time authorization and dynamic access control, where privileges are granted for a specific use case and then revoked, a more mature approach to security.Paul and Danny then tackle the provocative topic of using AI to control authorization. While they agree that AI-driven decisions are necessary to maintain user experience and business speed, they acknowledge that culturally, we are not yet ready to fully trust AI with such critical governance decisions. They discuss how AI could act as an orchestrator, making recommendations for low-risk entitlements while high-risk ones remain policy-controlled. Paul also touches on the complexity of this new world, with non-human identities, personal productivity agents, and the need for new standards like extensions to OAuth. The episode concludes with Paul sharing his biggest worries and hopes for the future. He is concerned about the speed of AI adoption outpacing security preparedness, but is excited by the potential for AI to automate away human toil, empowering IAM and security teams to focus on strategic, high-impact work that truly secures the organization.LinksConductorOneVerizon Data Breach Investigations ReportAWS CloudWatchSnyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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Retrieval-Augmented Generation With Bob Remeika From Ragie
Sep 1600:36:45Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryBob Remeika, CEO and Co-Founder of Ragie, joins host Danny Allan to demystify Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) and its role in building secure, powerful AI applications. They explore the nuances of RAG, differentiating it from fine-tuning, and discuss how it handles diverse data types while mitigating performance challenges. The conversation also covers the rise of AI agents, security best practices like data segmentation, and the exciting future of AI in amplifying developer productivity.Show NotesIn this episode of The Secure Developer, host Danny Allan is joined by Bob Remeika, co-founder and CEO of Ragie, a company focused on providing a RAG-as-a-Service platform for developers. The conversation dives deep into Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) and its practical applications in the AI world.Bob explains RAG as a method for providing context to large language models (LLMs) that they have not been trained on. This is particularly useful for things like a company's internal data, such as a parental leave policy, that would be unknown to a public model. The discussion differentiates RAG from fine-tuning an LLM, highlighting that RAG doesn't require a training step, making it a simple way to start building an AI application. The conversation also covers the challenges of working with RAG, including the variety of data formats (like text, audio, and video) that need to be processed and the potential for performance slowdowns with large datasets.The episode also explores the most common use cases for RAG-based systems, such as building internal chatbots and creating AI-powered applications for users. Bob addresses critical security concerns, including how to manage authorization and prevent unauthorized access to data using techniques like data segmentation and metadata tagging. The discussion then moves to the concept of "agents," which Bob defines as multi-step, action-oriented AI systems. Bob and Danny discuss how a multi-step approach with agents can help mitigate hallucinations by building in verification steps. Finally, they touch on the future of AI, with Bob expressing excitement about the "super leverage" that AI provides to amplify developer productivity, allowing them to get 10x more done with a smaller team. Bob and Danny both agree that AI isn't going to replace developers, but rather make them more valuable by enabling them to be more productive.LinksRagie - Fully Managed Multimodal RAG-as-a-Service for DevelopersRagie ConnectOpenAIGemini 2.5Claude Sonneto4-miniClaudeClaude OpusCursorSnowflakeSnyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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Securing The Future Of AI With Dr. Peter Garraghan
Sep 200:38:19Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryMachine learning has been around for decades, but as it evolves rapidly, the need for robust security grows even more urgent. Today on the Secure Developer, co-founder and CEO of Mindgard, Dr. Peter Garraghan, joins us to discuss his take on the future of AI. Tuning in, you’ll hear all about Peter’s background and career, his thoughts on deep neural networks, where we stand in the evolution of machine learning, and so much more! We delve into why he chooses to focus on security in deep neural networks before he shares how he performs security testing. We even discuss large language model attacks and why security is the responsibility of all parties within an AI organisation. Finally, our guest shares what excites him and scares him about the future of AI.Show NotesIn this episode of The Secure Developer, host Danny Allan welcomes Dr. Peter Garraghan, CEO and CTO of Mindgard, a company specializing in AI red teaming. He is also a chair professor in computer science at Lancaster University, where he specializes in the security of AI systems.Dr. Garraghan discusses the unique challenges of securing AI systems, which he began researching over a decade ago, even before the popularization of the transformer architecture. He explains that traditional security tools often fail against deep neural networks because they are inherently random and opaque, with no code to unravel for semantic meaning. He notes that AI, like any other software, has risks—technical, economic, and societal.The conversation delves into the evolution of AI, from early concepts of artificial neural networks to the transformer architecture that underpins large language models (LLMs) today. Dr. Garraghan likens the current state of AI adoption to a "great sieve theory," where many use cases are explored, but only a few, highly valuable ones, will remain and become ubiquitous. He identifies useful applications like coding assistance, document summarization, and translation.The discussion also explores how attacks on AI are analogous to traditional cybersecurity attacks, with prompt injection being similar to SQL injection. He emphasizes that a key difference is that AI can be socially engineered to reveal information, which is a new vector of attack. The episode concludes with a look at the future of AI security, including the emergence of AI security engineers and the importance of everyone in an organization being responsible for security. Dr. Garraghan shares his biggest fear—the anthropomorphization of AI—and his greatest optimism—the emergence of exciting and useful new applications.LinksMindgard - Automated AI Red Teaming & Security TestingSnyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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The Future is Now with Michael Grinich (WorkOS)
Aug 1200:33:11Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryWill AI replace developers? In this episode, Snyk CTO Danny Allan chats with Michael Grinich, the founder and CEO of WorkOS, about the evolving landscape of software development in the age of AI. Michael shares a fascinating analogy, comparing the shift in software engineering to the historical evolution of music, from every family having a piano to the modern era of digital creation with tools like GarageBand. They explore the concept of "vibe coding," the future of development frameworks, and how lessons from the browser wars—specifically the advent of sandboxing—can inform how we build secure AI-driven applications.Show NotesIn this episode, Danny Allan, CTO at Snyk, is joined by Michael Grinich, Founder and CEO of WorkOS, to explore the profound impact of AI on the world of software development. Michael discusses WorkOS's mission to enhance developer joy by providing robust, enterprise-ready features like authentication, user management, and security, allowing developers to remain in a creative flow state. The conversation kicks off with the provocative question of whether AI will replace developers. Michael offers a compelling analogy, comparing the current shift to the historical evolution of music, from a time when a piano was a household staple to the modern era where tools like GarageBand and Ableton have democratized music creation. He argues that while the role of a software engineer will fundamentally change, it won't disappear; rather, it will enable more people to create software in entirely new ways.The discussion then moves into the practical and security implications of this new paradigm, including the concept of "vibe coding," where applications can be generated on the fly based on a user's description. Michael cautions that you can't "vibe code" your security infrastructure, drawing a parallel to the early, vulnerable days of web browsers before sandboxing became a standard. He predicts that a similar evolution is necessary for the AI world, requiring new frameworks with tightly defined security boundaries to contain potentially buggy, AI-generated code.Looking to the future, Michael shares his optimism for the emergence of open standards in the AI space, highlighting the collaborative development around the Model Context Protocol (MCP) by companies like Anthropic, OpenAI, Cloudflare, and Microsoft. He believes this trend toward openness, much like the open standards of the web (HTML, HTTP), will prevent a winner-take-all scenario and foster a more innovative and accessible ecosystem. The episode wraps up with a look at the incredible energy in the developer community and how the challenge of the next decade will be distributing this powerful new technology to every industry in a safe, secure, and trustworthy manner.LinksWorkOS - Your app, enterprise readyWorkOS on YouTubeMITMCP Night 2025Snyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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Open Authorization In The World Of AI With Aaron Parecki
Jun 1000:36:07Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryHow do we apply the battle-tested principles of authentication and authorization to the rapidly evolving world of AI and Large Language Models (LLMs)? In this episode, we're joined by Aaron Parecki, Director of Identity Standards at Okta, to explore the past, present, and future of OAuth. We dive into the lessons learned from the evolution of OAuth 1.0 to 2.1, discuss the critical role of standards in securing new technologies, and unpack how identity frameworks can be extended to provide secure, manageable access for AI agents in enterprise environments.Show NotesIn this episode, host Danny Allan is joined by a very special guest, Aaron Parecki, the Director of Identity Standards at Okta, to discuss the critical intersection of identity, authorization, and the rise of artificial intelligence. Aaron begins by explaining the history of OAuth, which was created to solve the problem of third-party applications needing access to user data without the user having to share their actual credentials. This foundational concept of delegated access has become ubiquitous, but as technology evolves, so do the challenges.Aaron walks us through the evolution of the OAuth standard, from the limitations of OAuth 1 to the flexibility and challenges of OAuth 2, such as the introduction of bearer tokens. He explains how the protocol was intentionally designed to be extensible, allowing for later additions like OpenID Connect to handle identity and DPoP to enhance security by proving possession of a token. This modular design is why he is now working on OAuth 2.1—a consolidation of best practices—instead of a complete rewrite.The conversation then shifts to the most pressing modern challenge: securing AI agents and LLMs that need to interact with multiple services on a user's behalf. Aaron details the new "cross-app access" pattern he is working on, which places the enterprise Identity Provider (IDP) at the center of these interactions. This approach gives enterprise administrators crucial visibility and control over how data is shared between applications, solving a major security and management headache. For developers building in this space today, Aaron offers practical advice: leverage individual user permissions through standard OAuth flows rather than creating over-privileged service accounts.LinksOktaOpenID FoundationIETFThe House Files PDX (YouTube Channel)WIMSEAuthZEN Working Groupaaronpk on GitHubSnyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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The Evolution Of Platform Engineering With Massdriver CEO Cory O’Daniel
May 27, 202500:40:01Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryDive into the ever-evolving world of platform engineering with Cory O’Daniel, CEO and co-founder of Massdriver. This episode explores the journey of DevOps, the challenges of building and scaling infrastructure, and the crucial role of creating effective abstractions to empower developers. Cory shares his insights on the shift towards platform engineering as a means to build more secure and efficient software by default.Show NotesIn this episode of The Secure Developer, host Danny Allan sits down with Cory O’Daniel, CEO and co-founder of Massdriver, to discuss the dynamic landscape of platform engineering. Cory, a seasoned software engineer and first-time CEO, shares his extensive experience in the Infrastructure as Code (IaC) space, tracing his journey from early encounters with EC2 to founding Massdriver. He offers candid advice for developers aspiring to become CEOs, emphasizing the importance of passion and early customer engagement. The conversation delves into the evolution of DevOps over the past two decades, highlighting the constant changes in how software is run, from mainframes to serverless containers and now AI. Cory argues that the true spirit of DevOps lies in operations teams producing products that developers can easily use. He points out the challenge of scaling operations expertise, suggesting that IT and Cloud practices need to mature in software development to create better abstractions for developers, rather than expecting developers to become infrastructure experts. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the current state of abstractions in IaC. Cory contends that existing public abstractions, like open-source Terraform modules, are often too generic and don't account for specific business logic, security, or compliance requirements. He advocates for operations teams building their own prescriptive modules that embed organizational standards, effectively shifting security left by design rather than by burdening developers. The episode also touches upon the potential and limitations of AI in the operations space, with Cory expressing skepticism about AI's current ability to handle the contextual complexities of infrastructure without significant, organization-specific training data. Finally, Cory shares his optimism for the future of platform engineering, viewing it as a return to the original intentions of DevOps, where operations teams ship software with ingrained security and compliance, leading to more secure systems by default.LinksMassDriverAnsibleChefTerraformDevOps is BullshitElephant in the CloudDockerPostgresOpenTofuHelmRedisElixirSnyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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The Future Of API Security With FireTail’s Jeremy Snyder
May 13, 202500:38:00Tap to summarizeEpisode SummaryJeremy Snyder is the co-founder and CEO of FireTail, a company that enables organizations to adopt AI safely without sacrificing speed or innovation. In this conversation, Jeremy shares his deep expertise in API and AI security, highlighting the second wave of cloud adoption and his pivotal experiences at AWS during key moments in its growth from startup onwards.Show NotesIn this episode of The Secure Developer, host Danny Allan sits down with Jeremy Snyder, the Co-founder and CEO of FireTail, to unravel the complexities of API security and explore its critical intersection with the burgeoning field of Artificial Intelligence. Jeremy brings a wealth of experience, tracing his journey from early days in computational linguistics and IT infrastructure, through a pivotal period at AWS during its startup phase, to eventually co-founding FireTail to address the escalating challenges in API security driven by modern, decoupled software architectures.The conversation dives deep into the common pitfalls and crucial best practices for securing APIs. Jeremy clearly distinguishes between authentication (verifying identity) and authorization (defining permissions), emphasizing that failures in authorization are a leading cause of API-related data breaches. He sheds light on vulnerabilities like Broken Object-Level Authorization (BOLA), explaining how seemingly innocuous practices like using sequential integer IDs can expose entire datasets if server-side checks are missed. The discussion also touches on the discoverability of backend APIs and the persistent challenges surrounding multi-factor authentication, including the human element in security weaknesses like SIM swapping.Looking at current trends, Jeremy shares insights from FireTail's ongoing research, including their annual "State of API Security" report, which has uncovered novel attack vectors such as attempts to deploy malware via API calls. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the new frontier of AI security, where APIs serve as the primary conduit for interaction—and potential exploitation. Jeremy details how AI systems and LLM integrations introduce new risks, citing a real-world example of how a vulnerability in an AI's web crawler API could be leveraged for DDoS attacks. He speculates on the future evolution of APIs, suggesting that technologies like GraphQL might become more prevalent to accommodate the non-deterministic and data-hungry nature of AI agents. Despite the evolving threats, Jeremy concludes with an optimistic view, noting that the gap between business adoption of new technologies and security teams' responses is encouragingly shrinking, leading to more proactive and integrated security practices.LinksFireTailRapid7Snyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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The Case For Steward Ownership And Open Source With Melanie Rieback
Apr 29, 202500:44:11Tap to summarizeEpisode Summary Is the traditional Silicon Valley startup model harming the security industry? In this episode of The Secure Developer, Danny Allan talks with Melanie Rieback, founder of Radically Open Security, about shaking up the industry with nonprofit business models. Tuning in, you’ll learn about the inner workings of Radically Open Security as a non-profit organization and the positive impact its donations have had on the open source ecosystem.We discuss the benefits of a steward-ownership business model, why it pairs so well with open source, and its power to reform venture capital and align incentives with long-term sustainability. For those interested in diving deeper, Melanie shares resources from her startup incubator, Nonprofit Ventures, and her free online Post Growth Entrepreneurship course. Tune in to learn why reforming our business models is vital for preserving and protecting our open source ecosystem and, by extension, security! Show NotesIn this episode, Snyk CTO Danny Allan chats with Dr. Melanie Rieback, founder of Radically Open Security, about her journey from academia and pen testing to founding a cybersecurity company with a radically different business model. Melanie shares the motivations behind creating a not-for-profit organization that donates 90% of its profits to the NLnet Foundation, supporting open source and digital rights initiatives. They discuss the discontent with traditional cybersecurity business practices, including lack of transparency and ethical concerns like selling zero-days.Melanie explains Radically Open Security's structure, operating as a collective primarily using contractors, and how this model has allowed them to grow to 50 people while serving major clients and offering pro-bono work for nonprofits and critical open source projects like the Tor Project and Tails. The conversation then broadens to discuss alternative business models like steward ownership, where profit rights are separated from voting rights, aiming to lock value within the company and prevent mission drift often caused by traditional VC funding.They explore the concept of "Post Growth Entrepreneurship," which Melanie teaches, focusing on non-extractive business models and reforming finance itself. The discussion touches upon whether the tech industry, particularly open source, is moving towards more sustainable and ethical models, citing examples like Signal, Proton, Mastodon, and Mozilla. Melanie emphasizes that the culture of open source developers is often inherently altruistic, not greedy, but can be compromised by traditional funding systems. Finally, Melanie offers resources for listeners interested in learning more about these alternative models.LinksRadically Open SecurityRadically Open Security on LinkedInNLnet FoundationNonprofit VenturesPost Growth Entrepreneurship CourseSnyk - The Developer Security Company Follow UsOur WebsiteOur LinkedIn
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