In today’s episode, Seth Gruber sits down with Pastor Jeff Durbin of Apologia Church to expose one of the most controversial and hidden divides within the pro-life movement. They unpack the explosive debate around equal protection bills, why some major pro-life organizations are actively opposing them, and what that reveals about the true fight for the unborn. Seth and Jeff dive deep into the history of the abolitionist movement, the biblical role of the church in confronting injustice, and what it really means to demand full legal protection for preborn children. This is a bold, eye-opening conversation for anyone ready to understand the battle behind the battle—and what’s at stake if the truth stays buried.

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