Podcast
The Short Term Show
Hosted by 8 Figure Airbnb and Short Term Rental Real Estate Investor Avery Carl · EN
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
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Where and What to Buy in Southern Utah
1w ago00:25:30Tap to summarizeAvery Carl is joined by Short Term Shop agent Cody Roberts to break down why Southern Utah has become an increasingly attractive short-term rental market. They discuss the tourism demand driven by Zion National Park and the surrounding outdoor attractions, the strict permit regulations that help prevent oversaturation, and the types of properties that perform best in the market. The conversation also covers the benefits of condos and townhomes with resort-style amenities, the appeal of purpose-built short term rental communities, and why investors need to understand local regulations before buying in areas like St. George and Hurricane. Connect with an agent: agents@theshorttermshop.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →What Actually Triggers an IRS Audit on Rentals ft. Ana Klein
2w ago00:34:30Tap to summarizeOn this week's episode, Avery is joined by Ana Klein, CEO of Tax Boss, to break down how short term rental tax law can help high income earners significantly reduce their taxable income. Ana explains how strategies like cost segregation and bonus depreciation can create large paper losses that offset W2 income, while emphasizing that these benefits only work when paired with strong investments and long term planning. The conversation dives into common misconceptions, including year-one benefits, depreciation recapture, and why trying to game real estate professional status can backfire. They also highlight the importance of proper bookkeeping, time tracking for material participation, and working with qualified professionals to avoid costly IRS audits and mistakes. How to connect with Ana: https://www.instagram.com/taxbossana/ How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →The Asset Protection Hack That Stops Lawsuits Before They Start with Dohn Thornton
3w ago00:45:51Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Dohn Thornton, a seasoned real estate investor and short sale expert who has flipped over 3,000 properties and now focuses on advanced asset protection strategies. Dohn breaks down the concept of a spendthrift trust, explaining how it differs from traditional LLCs and trusts by offering greater privacy, lawsuit protection, and potential tax advantages through a contract law structure. The conversation dives into how these trusts can shield assets from discovery, avoid triggering taxable events, and fundamentally change how investors think about income, expenses, and wealth management. Dohn also shares real world examples from his own business, including how switching to this structure deterred lawsuits entirely and reshaped his approach to investing and long-term wealth building. How to connect with Dohn: https://bensonfinancial.us Instagram: @dohnthornton How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →A New Way for Property Managers to Get Clients ft. Emily Tunggala
4w ago00:20:45Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Emily Tunggala. Emily shares how Hospitable is expanding beyond traditional property management software by launching a marketplace that connects property managers with owners looking for help. She explains how the platform uses performance data and insights to match the right managers with the right properties, while also giving newer managers tools to onboard clients professionally. The conversation highlights how this could change the way managers find clients, reduce time spent chasing leads, and create more opportunity based on results rather than connections. How to connect with Emily: https://hospitable.com/ How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →Tax Savings Won’t Save a Bad Deal with Brian Boyd
Apr 2200:46:12Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Brian Boyd. Brian, a tax attorney and real estate investor, breaks down how the short term rental tax strategy works, explaining how investors can use cost segregation and bonus depreciation to offset active income while building wealth. He emphasizes the importance of self-managing properties, tracking time accurately, and understanding the rules to properly qualify for these tax benefits. The conversation also dives into common mistakes investors make, like overspending on furnishings or prioritizing tax savings over cash flow, and highlights how real estate can be a powerful long-term wealth-building tool when approached strategically. How to connect with Brian: YouTube: @yourtaxlawyerInstagram: briantboydTikTok: @briantboydFacebook: Brian T Boyd How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →The Real Chaos Behind Setting Up STRs ft. Kim Fitzpatrick
Apr 1500:34:25Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Kim Fitzpatrick. Kim shares how she went from being a PE teacher and single mom to launching her first Airbnb with an air mattress, eventually scaling into multiple investment properties across markets like the Smokies and Montana. She breaks down how her hands-on experience renovating and setting up properties led to founding Launched Host, a service that helps investors go from empty to guest-ready in just seven days. The conversation also highlights the realities of launching short term rentals, the importance of systems and guest experience, and how simplifying setups can reduce stress and improve long-term success. How to connect with Kim: Launchedhost.com https://www.instagram.com/launchedhost?igsh=dnNhYXpjbGZsbHBm&utm_source=qr https://www.facebook.com/share/1K5wTTDLjP/?mibextid=LQQJ4d How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →The Biggest Due Diligence Mistakes Killing Your Deals with Ari Rastegar
Apr 800:35:41Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Ari Rastagar. Ari shares how he built a multibillion-dollar real estate firm starting with just $3,500 and explains why real estate is far more operationally complex than most beginners expect. He dives into the importance of risk management, due diligence, and local market expertise, highlighting common mistakes investors make—especially when relying too heavily on spreadsheets instead of real-world context. The conversation also explores why short term rentals require an intense focus on customer experience and operations, and how scaling systems and processes is key to long-term success. How to connect with Ari: Website: https://rastegarcapital.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arirastegar/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rastegar TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@arirastegar How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →How to Win in Broken Bow Without Overspending ft. Cathy Craig
Apr 100:27:27Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Cathy Craig, a top agent and investor in Broken Bow, Oklahoma, who shares an inside look at the current market and why now may be a prime time to buy. She explains how prices have come down significantly from peak levels while demand and occupancy remain strong, pushing back on the idea of “oversaturation” and emphasizing that the market continues to grow with infrastructure and tourism. Cathy also highlights what actually drives success in this market, focusing on guest experience, smart upgrades, and avoiding over-investing in unnecessary amenities. She wraps with real examples of high-performing properties and practical advice on buying right, adding value, and standing out without overspending. How to connect with Cathy: www.theshorttermshop.com How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →How to Protect Your Short Term Rental From Lawsuits ft. Katie Johnson
Mar 2500:34:40Tap to summarizeAvery is joined by Katie Johnson, a short-term rental attorney and investor who breaks down the most common legal mistakes hosts make and how to avoid them. She explains key risks like missing deed restrictions, improperly handling LLCs, and failing to secure adequate insurance, along with how to protect yourself from lawsuits tied to pools, amenities, and guest incidents. Katie also dives into service animals vs. emotional support animals, the legal realities of raising capital, and why setting up your business structure correctly from the start is critical. The conversation highlights how being proactive with legal strategy can save investors from costly mistakes down the road. How to connect with Katie: @strlaw.with.katiestrlaw.comkatiejohnsonplc.com How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →Turning Construction Skills Into Short-Term Rental Cash Flow ft. Robert Warren
Mar 1800:47:22Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Robert Warren, a real estate investor who shares how decades of experience in building, rehabbing, and developing led him to short-term rentals. He breaks down how he transitioned from long-term rentals and flips into STRs, including buying and optimizing properties in Gulf Shores and the Smokies for stronger cash flow and seasonality advantages. Robert also dives into creative deal-making, like using 1031 exchanges and value-add renovations to scale faster, while emphasizing the importance of buying right, avoiding over-leverage, and maximizing guest experience. He wraps with practical advice on investing mindset, building wealth through assets, and using time and skills to create equity early on. How to connect with Robert: detaildesign.biz How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
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