Podcast
The Short Term Show
Hosted by 8 Figure Airbnb and Short Term Rental Real Estate Investor Avery Carl · EN
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
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The Lake Michigan STR Strategy That Changed Everything with Jeremy Udovich
1w ago00:26:38Tap to summarizeAvery is joined by Jeremy Udovich, founder of Sheboygan Vacation Rentals, to discuss how he went from a career in golf and software sales to building a thriving short-term rental portfolio and management company in Wisconsin. Jeremy shares how a single property near Lake Michigan grew into a portfolio of owned and managed vacation rentals, why Sheboygan’s beaches, golf courses, racetrack, and outdoor recreation create strong year-round demand, and how access to capital helped him scale quickly. He also explains why he waited years before leaving his W-2 job, the importance of education and preparation before taking on risk, and what he looks for when deciding whether to manage a property for another owner. The conversation offers valuable insight into scaling responsibly, building a management business organically, and finding overlooked opportunities outside of traditional vacation rental hotspots. Connect with Jeremy: www.sheboyganvacationrentals.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →The Affordable Gulf Coast Market Most Investors Overlook with Kelsey Ardoin
2w ago00:31:41Tap to summarizeOn this week's episode, Avery is joined by Kelsey Ardoin to break down what’s working right now in the Galveston and Crystal Beach short-term rental market. Using one of her own properties as a case study, Kelsey shares how investors can dramatically improve bookings without spending tens of thousands on major renovations, focusing instead on guest experience, outdoor entertainment spaces, hot tubs, and highly photographable amenities. She explains why large-group properties continue to perform well in this drive-to market, how to design beach houses that stand out from the competition, and why maximizing comfortable sleeping arrangements is critical to success. Avery and Kelsey also discuss current market conditions, why Crystal Beach remains one of the more affordable beach investment markets in the country, and how today’s buyer-friendly environment compares to the frenzy of the COVID-era boom. Connect with Kelsey: agents@theshorttermshop.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →How Chris McKenna Built a 10-Property STR Portfolio and Retired in Just a Few Years
3w ago00:39:54Tap to summarizeOn this week's episode, Avery is joined by Chris McKenna, a former Fortune 500 executive who retired at 49 after building a portfolio of short-term rentals across Alabama, Oklahoma, and Maine. Chris shares how hearing Avery on a BiggerPockets podcast sparked his real estate journey, leading him from a demanding corporate career to owning multiple vacation rental properties that now generate nearly $1 million in annual revenue. He recounts the unforgettable challenges of his first investment property—including a renovation disaster that landed him in the emergency room with Bell’s palsy—and explains why staying focused on long-term goals helped him keep moving forward. Chris also discusses scaling a portfolio across multiple markets, transforming underperforming properties through strategic upgrades, and the lessons he learned from purchasing and revitalizing a lakeside cabin resort in rural Maine. How to connect with Chris: https://lawrenceslakesidecabins.com/https://vandellvacationrentals.com/gulfshores/ Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →The “Regular Guy” Blueprint for Building Wealth with Short-Term Rentals with Lance Lalanne
4w ago00:35:07Tap to summarizeOn this week's episode, Avery is joined by Lance Lalanne, a Louisiana-based business executive and real estate investor who transformed his family's dream of owning a beach condo into a successful short-term rental business. Lance shares how a conversation with a friend, Avery’s audiobook, and guidance from the Short Term Shop team helped him confidently purchase a condo in Orange Beach, Alabama, negotiate a significant discount, and build a thriving rental from the ground up. They discuss the importance of buying based on numbers rather than emotion, leveraging coaching and community support, and creating a long-term wealth-building plan through strategic real estate investing. Along the way, Lance shares lessons from his first year as an STR owner and why he’s already planning property number two. Connect with Lance: LeiLani321.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →How a Bad Realtor Nearly Wrecked Their STR Dreams (And What They Did About It) with Erica and Jon Larson
Jun 300:42:37Tap to summarizeAvery Carl sits down with Erica and Jon Larson, a former teacher and a VP of sales who turned a career shake-up into a thriving short‑term rental business. They share the real, often messy process of leaving their W‑2 jobs—starting with a tight budget, learning the hard way why you never skip a home inspection, and the nightmare of trusting a realtor who wasn’t an STR expert. From teaching kindergarteners to managing guest messages mid‑class, Erica and Jon walk through the grit, risk, and persistence it took to buy their first Smoky Mountains property in 2022 and eventually replace one full‑time income. This conversation is packed with candid lessons for anyone dreaming of trading a traditional job for property‑based freedom. Connect with Erica and Jon: Website: CYLPrentals.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/changeyourlatitudeproperties/ Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →Negotiating Deals and Finding Hidden Value in Texas with Stacey Lancaster
May 2700:23:46Tap to summarizeAvery is joined by Short Term Shop agent Stacey Lancaster to explore the current state of short-term rental investing across Texas Hill Country and the Austin area. Stacey explains why the market currently favors investors who are willing to negotiate, create memorable guest experiences, and look beyond turnkey properties to add value through design and management. They also discuss how continued population growth in Texas, future developments like Fredericksburg’s incoming Waldorf Astoria, and shifting market conditions could shape demand in the years ahead. Connect with an agent: agents@theshorttermshop.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →Where and What to Buy in Southern Utah
May 2000:25:30Tap to summarizeAvery Carl is joined by Short Term Shop agent Cody Roberts to break down why Southern Utah has become an increasingly attractive short-term rental market. They discuss the tourism demand driven by Zion National Park and the surrounding outdoor attractions, the strict permit regulations that help prevent oversaturation, and the types of properties that perform best in the market. The conversation also covers the benefits of condos and townhomes with resort-style amenities, the appeal of purpose-built short term rental communities, and why investors need to understand local regulations before buying in areas like St. George and Hurricane. Connect with an agent: agents@theshorttermshop.com Connect with us: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ https://stsplus.com/ Follow Avery Carl on Instagram Follow Avery Carl on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →What Actually Triggers an IRS Audit on Rentals ft. Ana Klein
May 1300:34:30Tap to summarizeOn this week's episode, Avery is joined by Ana Klein, CEO of Tax Boss, to break down how short term rental tax law can help high income earners significantly reduce their taxable income. Ana explains how strategies like cost segregation and bonus depreciation can create large paper losses that offset W2 income, while emphasizing that these benefits only work when paired with strong investments and long term planning. The conversation dives into common misconceptions, including year-one benefits, depreciation recapture, and why trying to game real estate professional status can backfire. They also highlight the importance of proper bookkeeping, time tracking for material participation, and working with qualified professionals to avoid costly IRS audits and mistakes. How to connect with Ana: https://www.instagram.com/taxbossana/ How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →The Asset Protection Hack That Stops Lawsuits Before They Start with Dohn Thornton
May 600:45:51Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Dohn Thornton, a seasoned real estate investor and short sale expert who has flipped over 3,000 properties and now focuses on advanced asset protection strategies. Dohn breaks down the concept of a spendthrift trust, explaining how it differs from traditional LLCs and trusts by offering greater privacy, lawsuit protection, and potential tax advantages through a contract law structure. The conversation dives into how these trusts can shield assets from discovery, avoid triggering taxable events, and fundamentally change how investors think about income, expenses, and wealth management. Dohn also shares real world examples from his own business, including how switching to this structure deterred lawsuits entirely and reshaped his approach to investing and long-term wealth building. How to connect with Dohn: https://bensonfinancial.us Instagram: @dohnthornton How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
Transcribe →A New Way for Property Managers to Get Clients ft. Emily Tunggala
Apr 2900:20:45Tap to summarizeOn this week’s episode, Avery is joined by Emily Tunggala. Emily shares how Hospitable is expanding beyond traditional property management software by launching a marketplace that connects property managers with owners looking for help. She explains how the platform uses performance data and insights to match the right managers with the right properties, while also giving newer managers tools to onboard clients professionally. The conversation highlights how this could change the way managers find clients, reduce time spent chasing leads, and create more opportunity based on results rather than connections. How to connect with Emily: https://hospitable.com/ How to connect with Avery: The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/ Short Term Shop Plus - stsplus.com Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Join the Short Term Shop Facebook group Check out the Short Term Shop on YouTube For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s books: Smarter Short Term Rentals - Buy it on Amazon Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties – Buy it on Amazon
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