
#861: Join us as we sit down with Bobby Parrish – best-selling author, ingredient investigator, & founder of the wildly popular brand FlavCity. Known for breaking down complicated food labels & exposing the truth behind what’s really in...
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Lauren Everts
The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
Michael Bostick
Fantastic.
Lauren Everts
And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostick.
Michael Bostick
Are bringing you along for the ride.
Bobby Parish
Get ready for some major realness.
Lauren Everts
Welcome to the Skinny Confidential. Him and her. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential him and her show. Today we are joined by someone who's completely flipping the food industry on its head. With over 18 million followers and an app that's become the grocery store sidekick, Bobby Parish is here to show us how to live a Bobby approved life. From humble beginnings, eviction notices, family illness, to now leading a clean ingredient movement, Bobby's mission is simple but powerful. Know what you're putting into your body. So with that, get ready for clean swaps, grocery hacks, ingredient bombshells, and a look behind the scenes of building an empire that's changing lives one grocery cart at a time. With that, Bobby Parish. Welcome to Skinny Confidential, him and her show. This is the Skinny Confidential him and her.
Unknown
You've called out seed oils. Tell us about seed oils.
Michael Bostick
The cool thing about seed oils is that it's really coming to light lately about how prevalent they are, why they're used, and how bad they are. But I kind of feel like I was one of the OG back in like 2016, 2017 talking about them. The interesting thing is that they're in everything for a reason, because they're super cheap. And they actually used to be machine lubricants for like machinery and farming. And then grandma used to always cook with tallow butter, lard. And Then around the 20s and 30s, Big Ag figured out that we can turn this machine lubricant into really cheap cooking oils and sell it as something that's cheap and healthy and put like an American Heart association stamp on there. And we bought it because they put a big marketing campaign behind it. But the truth is that when you have a canola seed or a sunflower, that in and of itself isn't that bad. But it's so perverted to go from that to the cooking oil bottle that they all look golden and healthy, right? But they're all highly inflammatory. They're essentially rancid. They've been deodorized and bleached, they've been chemical laced. And it's one of the primary reasons we have such an inflammatory response in our diets.
Lauren Everts
What I think's so crazy about that and is I've like, as I've gotten older and realized when you look at the shelves. What's crazy is that they're all the same color.
Michael Bostick
Yes.
Lauren Everts
And that's alarming because, you know, when you cook anything now, it doesn't look that it's alarming that they're all just a wall of the same color. How, how does that process even happen?
Michael Bostick
Yeah, it's essentially like, like the factory process of it is it's. We're bleaching it, we're deodorizing it, and we're making it so it looks exactly the same because a bottle of soybean oil and canola oil and corn oil. I was just at the grocery store showing that big wall. They're all golden and beautiful. But they shouldn't be because even if you look at olive oil, especially extra virgin, which is so good for us, there's always going to be different shades of green. There might be sediment on the bottom if they're filtered or unfiltered. So I think that's been one of the biggest things that's come to light the last few years that people realize, okay, well, if I'm not going to use canola oil to sear my steak or my cake recipe calls for a canola oil, what should I use? And it's just really easy. Now you can use avocado oil, which is a healthy fat. I cook with a really cool fat at home now called algae oil. And it's made by fermenting algae and they just press the fat out of it and it has a high smoke point and it has no flavor like a canola oil, but it's incredibly high in omega 9 fatty acid. So it's not inflammatory. So I always tell people, like, if you want the easiest baby steps, like I always think in my head, you know the movie with Bill Murray, what about Bob? You know, so baby steps, like the baby steps to having a healthier lifestyle is just cutting out seed oils which are in everything. In the grocery store, if you walk down the middle aisle, you'll see them pretty much in everything. But if you just learn to read the ingredients and then at home swap out those oils with better for you oils like avocado oil, ghee, grass fed tallow, grass fed butter, then you're doing 90% of the work already.
Unknown
Is there a brand where you can't go wrong, that you just love the brand and everyone could go buy it, any kind of flavor and it would be good?
Michael Bostick
Are you saying for oil? For anything?
Unknown
For oils, yeah.
Michael Bostick
So for oils, yeah. Primal Kitchen, chosen foods and then actually to take it a step further. I was just thinking about this the other day. Like, is there a brand in today's world where you can walk to the grocery store and trust everything they make? I could only probably think of one off the top of my head, and that's Ciate, which is here in Austin too. Right. Everything they make is with awesome ingredients. No flavorings, no seed oils, no yeast extracts, no flavor enhancers. One of the biggest lies, I think, in the grocery store. Do you ever, like, walk around and you read the ingredients and you see something called natural flavors or organic flavoring?
Unknown
Yeah.
Michael Bostick
So, like, that is the biggest lie in the grocery store. And I've been, like, mad about it for years. Because artificial flavorings, we know, are probably bad for us, right? Those are actually derived from petroleum. They're horrible. But natural flavoring makes it seem like it's, like, good for you, and it's really an unregulated term. So when you pick up, like, a vanilla yogurt or a raspberry yogurt, and there's no raspberry, it's just flavoring. It's not actually a good thing.
Lauren Everts
So what could natural flavoring be composed of? Like, what. What are the things they're able to kind of, like, squeak by and trick consumers into thinking it's natural, but really.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. So while artificial flavors, the only rule about that that the government has is it cannot be from anything real. It has to be 100% fake. Natural flavors has to start with something real. So if it's raspberry natural flavors, it has to start with a flavoring derived from the compounds of the raspberry. But then it goes to a flavoring institute. They're usually called flavor and fragrancing houses. And they'll manipulate it with hundreds of synthetic solvents and chemicals to make it linger on your tongue a little, more or less make it hit a more floral note. So it's one of the biggest lies in the grocery store. So I always say, if you see that, put it down. It's one step above artificial flavor.
Unknown
Here's where I spiral. And Michael thinks I'm crazy. I don't think I know when stuff is made with almond flour or, I don't know, almond milk. Then I start thinking, but what are the almonds sprayed with? How do you say it? I always say it wrong. Glyphosate.
Michael Bostick
Oh, glyphosate.
Unknown
Yeah.
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Unknown
So then, even though it says, okay, this is made with almond flour, then I'm like, okay, but what's on the almonds?
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Unknown
Am I crazy to think that I'm.
Michael Bostick
Gonna side with Michael? You're a little crazy.
Unknown
A little crazy.
Michael Bostick
Cause that's where, like, I draw the line. I know.
Unknown
I was like, this is not Bobby approved.
Michael Bostick
I think I try to draw the line somewhere. It's like, okay, if something is clearly bad for us. Canola oil, artificial flavors, artificial colors made from dyes. Okay, These are just known carcinogens banned in other countries. We allow it here. But when you start to go next level, like you said, Lauren, that's when you start to spiral.
Lauren Everts
Because you could spiral. You could take the same thought process and be like, well, the cow, but did he eat grass? That was pesticides. And what did the grass.
Michael Bostick
You could just.
Lauren Everts
You'll go nuts for the rest of the. Yeah, that's your life.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. So I would draw the line somewhere and come back down to normalcy. And you'll be.
Unknown
I'm like the guy in Better Call Saul with the aluminum tin hat. I can, like, I can really tell a story. Michael sent me this meme the other day of Xena the warrior jumping across.
Lauren Everts
Like, it was the zena. Xena, the warrior Princess. Do you remember that show back in the day? She's jumping through the air doing front flips for, like, the meme. It says, like, me jumping to conclusions. Like, that's, that's Lauren.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is rooted in some, like, some truth. So you're not like a conspiracy tin hat person? Like, yes. Glyphosate is the, is the active ingredient in Roundup. Roundup is the most common herbicide. It's sprayed like crazy.
Unknown
It's not crazy.
Michael Bostick
No, that's not crazy. But then thinking like, oh, my God, were these almonds on the tree sprayed with Roundup?
Unknown
It's out of control. Oh, my God.
Michael Bostick
Like, then it starts. Yeah. Then it's like, just go to your bubble and eat your liquid food. And like, you know, it's. We have to draw the line somewhere. And I, I try to. I try to make it so, like, we're not going to be too crazy with.
Unknown
I just found out that I've been cleaning my fruits and vegetables wrong. I was cleaning them with vinegar and baking soda, and I just found out that the vinegar, like, negates the baking soda. It neutralizes it. And you're just supposed to do it with baking soda.
Michael Bostick
Oh, I didn't know. See, I didn't know that. Yeah. All right.
Lauren Everts
I just eat the fucking fruit. I literally just grab it and eat it.
Michael Bostick
I mean, I, I, I'll side with Lauren in this one. I would wash it in something. Right. That has been shipped from God knows where.
Unknown
Yeah, you're eating it with the rabbit.
Lauren Everts
Here's the thing though, what I love about your content, and we're going to get into that in your story, is that you allow people to enjoy and live their life. Like we have people on this show and God bless them, they go down so far, these raffles. They take such extreme measures. I'm like a real 8020 kind of guy. Like, I will do like, listen, if I can avoid these artificial ingredients and natural flavors and if I can get rid of seed oils and if I can get rid of, you know, drink better water, like I'm going to do that. Of course, if I'm a better cleaning supplies.
Unknown
But I had in and out yesterday.
Lauren Everts
But I'm not going to like.
Michael Bostick
But you know what?
Unknown
No, no, I don't really.
Lauren Everts
Sometimes I'll tell me, Bobby, that don't know me very well. Like, like I'll be drinking a margarita. Like you drink alcohol. Yeah, once in a while I have. Or like, or I'll eat, you know, and I don't do it all the time. Like maybe like once a quarter. Like I'm going to live my life is what I'm saying. And I think people can become neurotic with this. And there's such a movement now in the health space, which is great. It's, it's ripe time for people to start taking ingredients seriously. But you can be, you can drive yourself crazy if you go too far down the rabbit hole here.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, I mean, I try to make it relatable. So like if you're going to have potato chips, right. Which we know are not healthy for us. Right. Well, the ones cooked in avocado oil versus the canola oil are going to be your better. What I call Bobby approved options. Right. Because avocado oil is anti inflammatory, not bleach processed to death. Canola oil is even ice cream.
Lauren Everts
The food industry itself has been able to get away with murder and really sometimes literally in cases with the way they've been able to market to us as a population. Like some of the things that, you know, when big tobacco came in and bought a lot of these companies, some of these marketing practices are abhorrent. Right. And like they take advantage of consumers and you think you're doing the right thing when really, you know, like someone's reading natural ingredients and trying to feed their family and they think like they're doing the right thing.
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Lauren Everts
Little do they know.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, I mean, well, that's all food marketing. It's very little regulation. I just did a video a few weeks ago about, like, what do these top seven food labels mean? Because when people see like the USDA organic stamp or a certified non gmo, like it has warm fuzzy feelings for themselves. And they think like, oh, this organic fruit isn't sprayed. Well, no, it is still sprayed. It's just not sprayed with synthetic preservatives. And it's better for the soil. We're not sterilizing the soil so our, you know, top soil turns into dust and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean, it goes back to relatability. So I don't care if you want to eat ice cream, potato chips, in and out burger, right. As long as you just know what's in there and know, like, it's not a diet. Like, I'm not preaching, go on a keto diet, go on this diet. It's just know what goes in your body. And yeah, if you're gonna have a cheat of a margarita or fast food. Yeah, whatever. We know it's a cheat. But there are ways to eat foods that we all love every day, but just with better for you swaps that will make your body feel a lot better.
Unknown
What's the biggest lie that we've been told as American people when it comes to the food industry? Gosh, girl, let me pull out my scroll.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot. Let me go to the list here. Well, I think. Well, I'm a child of the 80s, right. I'm 47 years old. So I grew up in a time when they told us fat and butter was really bad for us. And instead we should eat this margarine because it's made of plant oils and it's good for us. And they got rid of all the fatty snacks and just replaced them with sugary snacks. So, like, I don't know if you remember, but there was this, there was this devil's food cookie cake from Snackwell's, of course, right? Oh, Snackwell's in a green box. Unbelievable.
Lauren Everts
How do I not know that?
Unknown
Michael doesn't have any attachment to food, so he doesn't remember the snacks. They're like the little mud pies or like moon cakes.
Michael Bostick
Moon cakes.
Unknown
And they're snack wells. And they were marketed as like low fat cookies.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, low fat or even fat free. I think fat free fat. But what they did is pump up the sugar and everything like that.
Unknown
So I'm going to show them to Michael.
Lauren Everts
Keep probably Seen him. I just.
Michael Bostick
You probably can't get them anymore. It's, you know, that was. That was here and there, but they just basically. And it's so easily just brainwashed everyone. Oh, my God, stop using butter. Stop eating fat. We're going to go to low fat. And then they realized that it was all wrong. You know, a dozen years later, and we were just eating high sugar. It's exactly the green box. Yeah.
Lauren Everts
Yeah.
Michael Bostick
They were so good.
Unknown
Mom used to have these.
Lauren Everts
Yeah, mom used to have those for sure.
Unknown
Mom for sure had these. The cream sandwiches. Oh, the double. The double fudge cakes. That's the one. I used to like the white ones.
Lauren Everts
The white cookies, the. With the vanilla frosting.
Unknown
Yeah. It was so popular in the 90s, you're right.
Lauren Everts
But go on.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. So, I mean, it's just things like that. But. But the way they get away with it so quickly. So go back to the 1920s and 1930s. Like, for ages, we all cooked with lard and butter. And then all of a sudden, they just switched us to Crisco. Really? Right. Which was crystallized cottonseed oil. And they just made it seem like it's better for us and healthy, healthier. And it worked. I mean, people switch so darn quickly, and, like, it's crazy how quickly that can happen. So, like, little by little, that's how just big, big food, Big Ag tricked us. And you mentioned a second ago, Michael, basically they took all of the. The food scientists and the marketing team from tobacco, put them on food, and next thing you know, they were just showing us studies and sponsored studies that these foods were good for us and better for you. Swap. So unfortunately, it's really easy for them to do that. And then we trust them and we adopt that to our everyday life.
Lauren Everts
They did the same. I mean, listen, the same thing happened with, like, animal proteins. You know, like, humans have evolved eating. And listen, if you have a moral reason, to each his own. But humans evolved eating animal proteins for thousands and thousands of years, and all of a sudden it was demonized and told us it was bad for us. Like, it's just what I always think with when it comes to this stuff is you as a human being, evolution is a real thing. You evolve a certain way. You can't just all of a sudden turn off evolution. Right. Like what you're talking about with, like, the Criscos, we turned a part of our evolution off by saying, like, we're going to introduce this foreign product that we've never digested before into our system. It's not going to, it's not going to go well.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, for sure. And then it's amazing how quickly that plant based craze just like took over, right? And all of a sudden everyone's like, oh, it's bad to eat meat. Even though it's pasture raised, grass fed, regen farmed. We need to eat our plant burgers that are made of, you know, soy seed oils, cellulose, gums. It's a joke.
Lauren Everts
How did you get into this world? How did you initially become so interested in this, in this lane?
Michael Bostick
It goes back to my mom. So I grew up cooking in the kitchen with my mom. I have vivid memories of her baker's rack in the kitchen with like Julia Child's book and French cooking book. So I was really always into cooking and like transforming raw ingredients into a final dish that we could enjoy. As soon as I turned 16 years old, I started hitting the gym with my buddies and I wanted to put quality food into my body and know that what I'm going to make is going to help fuel my body also. And right around that time also my mother was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. And so then it just really became apparent that, okay, we have to take this seriously. We have to know exactly the food that goes in your body because that can heal you. Ultimately she passed away in 2015 after, thank you, 15 year battle with Ms. But that was really important to me and it kind of like transformed the way that I thought about food as fuel, as nutrition, to. Wait a second, like food is really supposed to be nutritious. And so that's when I started realizing that it's one thing to be eating healthy. What does that mean? It's more about like, okay, I want to eat food that I know is going to help my body thrive and maybe other people would want to learn about that too.
Unknown
And correct me if I'm wrong. Is one of the causes of Ms. Inflammation?
Michael Bostick
Yeah, it has a lot to do with it. And the more inflammation then the more it affects like the mylon sheath breakdown there. So like there was a time I remember when we were doing bee sting therapy on my mom. So my dad would buy these boxes of bees in the mail and like he would sting her along the spine and she was like yelling out like crazy. But it, it created an anti inflammatory response, you know, but so, but if you think about the average diet, right, going back to what we just said, it's very inflammatory. So even if you don't even have a chronic disease or ms, like a Chronic state of inflammation is really, really bad for multiple reasons.
Unknown
Is there a specific thing that causes it or is it a combination of things?
Michael Bostick
The ms? Yeah, that's I think up until even now, like they can't even pin down exactly what it is. It's one of those weird things where they don't know if it's a virus or what. And the weird thing with her is that her brother had it too. So her brother had it early on from like teenage years on. And then my mother was diagnosed with it in 90 99. So at that point she was like 60, 68. Her slowly kind of progressed and she went from walking to being wheelchair bound to being very immobile. But yeah, it's, it's, it's one of those things where they can't really pinpoint even to this day, like what is the root cause of it.
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Unknown
I eat liver.
Bobby Parish
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Unknown
It's so interesting. Like, I know someone that grew up in Bakersfield and in Bakersfield they spray all the crops with all the pesticides. And the person that I know has autoimmune and she's always sick and she doesn't feel good. And a lot of people she knows have the same things. They have allergies, they have all these things. It's almost like sometimes you're a byproduct of the environment that you grew up in. Maybe it's not even genetic, but it sounds like you're your mom's brother also. It's like, it's just.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, there's something.
Unknown
Yeah, there's something.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. I can't tie it back, obviously, but there's got to be something they were both exposed to.
Unknown
Yeah.
Michael Bostick
Because that's. It's pretty rare to have that, you know?
Unknown
Yeah.
Michael Bostick
So yeah, there's. I agree there's something. There's something to that. I just don't know what it is.
Unknown
How do you help people on a day to day shop better? Like what. What have you seen that's really life transformative for the people that, that follow you?
Michael Bostick
Yeah. So it's really cool because when I'm at the grocery store making these videos, I'll run into A lot of people who say, like, you have helped me transform my health. I'm off of my blood pressure medication.
Unknown
So cool.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, it's so cool. And, like, it's interesting too, because I've been doing this for 13 years now. So, like, you guys know when you're in your creator mode, like, you're just. You're dialed in. You know, your videos are reaching a lot of people, you're helping people. But then when you have that interaction of meeting them and they tell you how their pantry and their health has transformed for the whole family. I see people walking around the grocery store using my app. So I have this app where you can scan a barcode and it tells you. It highlights the bad ingredients and it tells you if it's Bobby approved or not. And if it's bad, it tells you why the ingredients are bad, and it gives you a better recommendation. And so, like, I'll just see people using in the grocery store, and then I'll just pop up behind them like, oh, that's Bobby approved. So, yeah. So I know it's really cool to see that people take my advice. And once again, even cooler, I think is I'm not a nutritionist. I'm not a doctor. That's probably one of the biggest knocks against me.
Lauren Everts
People give you shit for that.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, for sure, for sure. But I actually counter to that. It's probably a good thing because, like, if I was a nutritionist or preaching like, the food pyramid, which is completely backwards, then I would just be peddling the same, you know, jargon that's making us a fat, sick, chronically ill country.
Lauren Everts
You know what's scary, though, about what you do and what's gone on in this space in general is, you know, you'll have things like American Heart association approved or like USDA organic. When. When the general. When the average consumer, including myself over the years, sees that, you assume that people that have gotten these kinds of degrees or expertise have given this stamp approval and that this is actually good for you.
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Lauren Everts
And then what you find out later as you go down the rabbit hole is that like, somehow, somewhere along the way, they were able to get that stamp of quote, unquote, approval from these credentialed people. Somebody somewhere at some point that had that expertise signed off, and it's not good for you. But the American people, and just people in general have been misled with labels like that. And they assume because the credentialed people have put the stamp of approval, like, when I see that, as before I started Doing the show, when I see a label like that, I'm assuming that some medical board or some medical group got together and said, hey, that's good for you.
Michael Bostick
For sure, for sure. And. But then it goes back to our conversation before about that stamp may have been done because the company themselves paid for the study and said, here are the results. Like, we qualify to be heart healthy. So like, it's totally perverted. Just like they will convince you immediately that plant protein is better than meat protein, that Crisco is better than butter.
Lauren Everts
I mean, yeah, but the average consumer has no idea that that study even took place. They just see that and like, again, if you're just. And they, the companies like this, they assume like, hey, like a bunch of doctors got together and said, like, that's the choice for you.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, for sure. That's why I think, like the, the term Bobby approved has taken off. Because, like, it's not about heart health or it's literally ingredient based. So if a product is Bobby approved, it has what I call best in class, ingredients that are good for you and will not hinder your health. It doesn't look at, oh, the calorie count, the saturated fat. You can do that research if you're interested in. But if something is made with canola oil, if something has corn syrup, it's not going to be good for you. Like, there's no subjective reasoning there. That is a fact. It's not Bobby approved.
Unknown
What are brands that people had thought were good for them that you've called out, that you did? The whistleblower.
Lauren Everts
The brands love you.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. Yeah. I used to be a lot harsher in my, in my early days when I was a young buck, I used to be a lot harsher when I would call that out. And then like, I realized, well, I don't want to attack the brands themselves. I just really want to go after the ingredients only. So, like, I just go after the ingredients. So if, if a brand is using like bad ingredients, like, also for legal reasons, I'm not going to call them out. I'm going to call out, oh, man, it's such a bummer. They're using high fructose corn syrup or yellow number five as opposed to coconut sugar or beta carotene for the color.
Unknown
When my children go to a birthday party.
Michael Bostick
Yes.
Unknown
And we give them the birthday cake and the pizza and all the things that are there, they come home and act like completely different children and listen, at our house, I would say our house is 80, 20, like, we try to give them Eggs and steak and broccoli and green beans. But, like, you know, they'll have a muffin or a cookie or a goldfish or whatever. But we.
Michael Bostick
We.
Unknown
It's. It's limited.
Lauren Everts
Not a Gold Vision, but it's a.
Unknown
Bunny, an Annie's bunny, which isn't. I just learned for their teeth. I heard it's the biggest cavity giver.
Michael Bostick
Bunnies because of the flower.
Unknown
Our doctor or our dentist told us that those bunnies and goldfish get stuck to the teeth and give cavities more than sugar.
Michael Bostick
Really?
Unknown
Yes.
Michael Bostick
Well, they're made of, like, enriched wheat flour or wheat flour, which essentially is a sugar. So I guess it kind of makes sense.
Unknown
Yeah, it's get stuck to the teeth anyway.
Lauren Everts
It's more about it sticking on the teeth for long periods of time with children. You know, like, adults aren't going to run around with, like, trees all over.
Michael Bostick
Their teeth and brush their teeth.
Unknown
I just can't believe how my kids act when they have, like, a sugar splurge. And then I started to tell Michael. I'm like, I could understand why parents think that then their children has ADHD or ADD or whatever, like a learning disability. If they're. If they're getting fed that every day, they act crazy.
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Unknown
What has been your experience with kids and certain foods and dyes?
Michael Bostick
Yeah. So I have one daughter, Rose. She'll turn six pretty soon. And so being around us and growing up in the kitchen, like, she's had a really, really clean diet. But I totally agree when you say that, Lauren, because when you go to any birthday party, it's always the bright red and the bright yellow frosted cupcakes.
Unknown
With the plastic balloons.
Michael Bostick
Yes, exactly. And so, I mean, there is undoubtedly a link between the colors and behavioral issues. And I just noticed it. Like, I think it was a week ago. Rose went to a party and she had one of those, and then she was a wreck afterwards. She was crying in the car and she was acting, like, really goofy. And that never happens, you know, so it bothers me that, like, the parents will do this as a celebration for the birthday, but all they're doing is just hyping their kids up on these colors that are known behavioral disruptors.
Unknown
So what. What would you recommend as parents? Because I don't want my kids to miss out on the birthday celebration. You just give it to them and let them act crazy. Yeah.
Michael Bostick
No. So, like, that goes back to what I said earlier. Like, there's always a simple swap for everything. Like, I will always find you the better for you option. So I'll never say like, oh, sorry, kids, you can't have your cupcakes for your birthday. You know, have a fruit bar. So there are plenty of frostings out there. Like, for example, you go to the store and Simple Mills makes a nice frosting that isn't colored with yellow number five or blue number one. It doesn't have high fructose corn syrup in there. It might have a little bit of palm oil, but this is where we do the 80, 20, right. And it's sweetened with coconut sugar. So there is an option. So make your cupcakes, use your crappy flour if you want, that's fine. But don't put the red frosting on there. Just use a normal frosting. You don't have to put, you know, the balloons on top and the stuff like that and get them all hopped up on that. So there is an easy swap. It's just when the parents just call the local bakery and say, make me 24, you know, red cupcakes. It's a little bit of.
Unknown
I mean, you could see if kids are eating that every day, you can see why they're being diagnosed with certain things.
Lauren Everts
Well, why I like doing this show and you know, why I appreciate what you do, is I really don't even take the perspective of like, blaming the parents. I think it's the majority of people still, if they don't listen to shows like this one and others, and they don't follow people like yourself, you assume you go in the grocery store, this is on the label. It's good for you. I talk to my dad all the time, and I'd be like, when I was a kid, I had this, like, well, ingredients have changed since you were a kid. You know, you're 80 years old now. It's like, it's a little bit different. And most people don't real. Like, if most people realize these ingredients, especially the colored eyes, which many of them are now being banned, have these harmful chemicals and that are causing these brain alterations. Like, most parents say, I would never touch that. They just. It's a lack of awareness. And it's not a fault. It's more of just, we've not been given enough information.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, it's been going on for years. We'll just continue it. How bad can it be? But like you said, like the stuff from the 60s, cupcakes at parties are vastly different for now. And there's a lot of data out there to back up that, yeah, these colors are really disruptive for the Kids. So let's just swap it out. No one's taking away their cake. You know, they can have their cake and eat it too.
Unknown
If someone's on a budget, what's the best investment?
Michael Bostick
Yeah, I love doing budget stuff because, like, a lot of times people associate eating cleaner or healthier with more expensive and that can be the case. But I do a lot of videos and content from like, Aldi's and Walmart, so there's no, there's no problem going there. So the best investment would be cooking at home. I don't care how expensive you think eating out is. If you go to any casual restaurant, you know, In n Out burger, oh, so good. It's going to be leaps and bounds and more expensive. So I'll do these fun videos where I'll do the cost comparison. So, like, I'll do the clean Bobby approved version of Chick Fil A versus theirs. Or we did one where it was like Buffalo wild wings, right? Was during like March Madness. And I went to the restaurant and ordered and I thought it was a joke. But six wings was $13. Six little wings, right? So then I made like six wings at home with pasture raised chicken for like $3 and change. So number one, the best investment is cooking at home.
Unknown
And you don't get all the microplastics from the Postmates. I know, but I can't help it. Michael's like, ordering like a steak that's like a $40 steak. Postmates. And it comes in a heated plastic thing. And I'm like, what is the point of this? It's like plastic. I'm sorry.
Michael Bostick
No, no, I, I, you're actually, you're, you're right with that one. You're right.
Lauren Everts
Yeah, Just give it to her.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, I'll give you that one.
Lauren Everts
We don't need it. We don't want to get stuck on this for too long.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, yeah, I'll give you that one. And then if you want to go even deeper about.
Unknown
I love how I like, judged my husband and then I ate in and out yesterday. Go ahead, Bobby.
Michael Bostick
Well, how about you go, you go.
Lauren Everts
Do not deep. Was me.
Michael Bostick
There you go. What about when you go to the coffee shop and you get it in those paper cups? Well, they're all lined with a thin layer of plastic.
Unknown
But then it still has plastic.
Michael Bostick
But it's not as bad as putting 205 degree liquid in there. Right. So we can go down that rabbit hole all day. Right? So, like, I would just, I would, I think, I don't know if you can do it anymore. But you used to be able to go to any coffee shop and bring like your yeti and they would pour it in there.
Unknown
Yeah.
Michael Bostick
But now maybe because of cooties, they won't do that. I don't know.
Unknown
Okay, so. So go on with your, your best investment.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, yeah. So, okay, so eating at home. So eating at home, which means you just get a couple cooking utensils. Right. So obviously not Teflon. Right. So that's the pans we all grew up with. Teflon nonstick. They work great. But we know that the Teflon is carcinogenic and they wear off over time. So you get a nice ceramic pan, you get a couple utensils, you buy the food at the grocery store, you don't order it with Instacart and stuff like that. Right. And you, you just go to Aldi, you go to Walmart, you cook your own food and you just don't go out nearly as much. And you'll save so much money and then you can find yourself splurging on other things.
Lauren Everts
You know what's funny too, we started having more home cooked meals at the house and I noticed I started getting more trim and feeling a lot better. And we don't realize when you go out all the time again, you're eating out, you're spending the money, but also maybe you're not always getting the greatest ingredients, you know what I mean? And so many of us have been conditioned out, Postmates, Uber eats go out all the time. Convenience, convenience, convenience. But I noticed when we started cooking more at home, I started getting much healthier.
Unknown
What's a Bobby approved cocktail?
Michael Bostick
So that's interesting because like, if you're just going to get a straight up spirit. So like tequila is a clean spirit, Vodka is a clean spirit. Like at home, I'll drink wine a few nights a week with my meal, but I drink natural wine, which is a long fermentation wine.
Unknown
What brand do you like?
Michael Bostick
Dry farm wine. Delicious.
Unknown
Okay, we do too.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, I call it headache free wine. I love it. But you get in trouble when you start adding the mixers. Right. That are made of simple syrups and colors and stuff like that. But there's nothing wrong with having tequila made from fermented agave. You know, you probably don't want to like go overboard with it, but only.
Lauren Everts
Like drink like half the bottle.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, there you go. Yeah.
Unknown
What are some wellness things that you do for yourself that maybe don't have to do with food?
Michael Bostick
Yeah, for sure. So I Try to keep it pretty basic. So, like, when I watch the show and I see people like ice bathing at 459 and then, you know, heat infrared sauna five minutes after. That's cool. And I'm sure there's benefits for me. I try to get seven and a half hours to eight hours of sleep every single night. Like, to me, that's the most important thing. So, like, I will shut it down at 9:45 and just go to bed because I get up at 6:20. I do find that 10 minutes of red light therapy is really helpful. And. And we have the panels at home. But then I got lazy because I don't want to lay in front of the panels because I can't multitask. So now I just put the face mask on and I just do that while I'm like, watching YouTube or something. So red light therapy and then just getting in the gym and doing some kind of movement for four days a week. So, like this morning before I flew here, I have this sled in my backyard. Like the NFL players. Right. So I just push it and then I walk backwards. Like moonwalking. Amazing for the legs. Then I do a few sit ups and I'm done.
Unknown
Are you into weightlifting?
Michael Bostick
Can't you tell, Lauren?
Unknown
I mean, yeah, I can see a muscle. I can see. I just want you to confirm.
Michael Bostick
I will. I will confirm. Confirm the rumors. Yeah, but, yeah, but not. But not anything like big. Like, I'll just get in there like three, four days a week, toss the weights around, and then I'm done.
Lauren Everts
But you're active. You take care of yourself.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, yeah, I take care of myself. I'm actually a big fan of creatine too. I was really late to the train on that. Like, I was taking that when I was 16 because it was cool back then. And then all of a sudden it came back like, you know what, though?
Lauren Everts
When we, like, I could speak for both of us, I guarantee you were doing this when we were taking creatine back in the day. You were probably taking so much and with the weight gainer, you're doing the thing, you're overdoing it. Yeah, Just like probably like taking quadruple the dose that was needed. Yes, I did the same thing.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. But I did notice, like, so I've been taking it out for maybe like seven months. And like after two weeks, like, I'm like, I have good energy. I can increase the weights a little more, you know, but. And I don't sit at home. So, like, I have a standing Desk. I'm standing all the time when I'm working. So like movement and just a few, a few tips of sleeping. Little red light and that's it.
Unknown
What's the process that you go through to curate and vet for your app? Because I know that it's very specific.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, yeah. So that the app was years and years of basically classifying products, but then it was actually a problem solved because people would DM me and email me dozens of times a day with a picture of X. Is this Bobby?
Unknown
Oh my God.
Michael Bostick
And I was always reply. I'm like, no, it's not approved because of whatever. So I told my wife, I'm like, let's just create an app where somebody scans a barcode. Like it should be doable, right? So you know, I'm like, okay, let's do it. She is a computer science science master. She's smart. And so we thought we would do it. It'd be $30,000 to make the app and it would take a little time. It was over $100,000 to do the app. It took a lot longer than expected. But the coolest part of that is like there's millions of products at the grocery store. So how do we get it? Well, there are ways of plugging into like APIs, but what I did in the early days is I'd have scan parties. So we were living in Chicago back then and I would have like 25 Bobby approved fans come and we'd go to the grocery store and I'd be like, you're in this aisle, I'm in this aisle. And we'd just scan and build up the database. So now we have like 1.4 million products and growing in the, in the store. And it purely is based upon my view of what ingredients are good for us and what ingredients are bad for us. So if a product you scan has a bad ingredient, it will highlight it, it will tell you why it's bad and then you can scroll at the bottom and it tells you a better recommendation within that category. So if it's cereal or pasta or.
Lauren Everts
Whatever for you personally, are there certain ingredients that are like absolute no go's no matter what?
Michael Bostick
Yeah, absolutely. So I'm really stringent, like I'll never, I'll never waver. So that's one thing. Like if I'm, if I'm steadfast in my belief that seed oils are bad, like you're not going to convince me that they're, they're better. I don't care what studies you're citing or anything like that. So the ones we talked about, you know, so if there's canola oil, soybean oil, if there's refined sugars, corn syrup, fake colors, natural flavorings, stuff like that, those are easy red flags to make something that is a product you shouldn't consume.
Bobby Parish
95% of home goods on the market contain forever chemicals. That blew my mind. Also, did you guys know that plastic cutting boards shed the thousands of microplastics with every use? This blows my mind because there's so many moms out there that are using plastic cutting boards and none of us know. I had a plastic cutting board forever and I just found this out. So inner Caraway. Caraway's cutting boards are constructed entirely of birch wood. They're beautiful too. I use them all the time. There's no plastics, there's no bpa, there's no nonsense. I am obsessed with their cutting boards. I have like three. They also are very serious about their materials when it comes to cookware. So it's free of toxic materials like pfas, pfoa, lead and other harmful chemicals. So you really have like guilt free cooking. You don't need to worry about all these pain points. I personally love their beige set. I've used it forever. It's nonstick and it makes a great egg. I'm not the best cook in the world, but I make a mean egg and that's thanks to caraway. And it's nice to know that I'm cooking my farmer's market egg on something that's non toxic. If you've been eyeing their Internet famous 12 piece cookware set, now is the perfect day to buy. You can shop Caraway risk free. Enjoy fast free shipping, easy returns and a 30 day trial. Plus if you visit carawayhome.com theskinny10 you can also take an additional 10% off your next purchase. This deal is exclusive for our listeners, so visit CarawayHome.com TheSkinny10 or use code TheSkinny10 at checkout. Caraway Non toxic cookware made modern for.
Lauren Everts
People who partake in the consumption of alcohol. I think there are two camps. There's the camps of people who love tequila and the camps that maybe don't like it so much. What I find is the camp that doesn't like it so much has likely not had a high quality tequila. Like what I'm sitting in front of here, which is a straw tequila. Likely you've had a low quality tequila, but with a straw you have the highest quality right now. In front of me, I have their anejo, their blanco, and my personal favorite, the reposado, which, funny enough, I actually use in margaritas instead of the blanco, even though most people use a blanco. So, like I said, a straw is my go to tequila for margaritas at home. And it doesn't just taste good, it does good too. Every bottle of Estrall Tequila helps build homes for families in need in Jalisco, Mexico. And after making the tequila, they upcycle leftover agave fibers into adobe bricks used to build homes in their community. How cool is that? So when you're sipping a marg, you're also supporting a great cause. Drink margs do good. What could be better? So the way I personally like to enjoy a straw tequila is either straight on the rocks or if I'm going to do a cocktail, I do a margarita classic margarita, which I've talked about before. Most people, like I said, they use the blanco, which will make a phenomenal margarita. But I actually like to use the reposado. But what I've really been enjoying is a tequila Old fashioned lately with the anejo. A lot of people think you can only do this with whiskey, but you can actually make an incredible old fashioned with tequila and use anejo. You know, one of the worst things you could do is kind of switch alcohols throughout the night to different spirits. So if you want to stick with tequila and enjoy maybe an old fashioned and maybe a margarita, you can do both with a straw. Try the anejo, try the reposado, and then maybe do one on the rocks with the blanco.
Michael Bostick
That's.
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Bobby Parish
Did you know that most toilet paper has formaldehyde and chlorine in it? It also has dyes. I was shocked to know I found out this probably a year ago, that there's all of these crazy things in toilet paper. We're wiping our most intimate areas with this all day long. My daughter is using the toilet paper. My husband's using it. I went on this, like, wild goose chase to find the best toilet paper on the market. And while I found some brands that were great, I also wanted to create something better. And so that's what we've done at the Skinny Confidential. We have created a better choice. I was involved in every single detail of this toilet paper. We took out formaldehyde, we took out chlorine, we took out the dyes, we took out all the things that I didn't want my family exposed to. And then, of course, in our very Skinny Confidential way, we wrapped it in pink. As you can see, I wanted the experience of the delivery when you got it, to be very romantic and pretty. Never. Are you excited about getting Your monthly delivery of toilet paper. And I wanted to make you excited. So it comes in the most luxurious box. You open it, it's packaged cute, and it also has our little stamp on it. And you can put this on all of the rules in your house and know that it's a better choice for you and your family. I am so passionate about this launch. We have been working on this launch for a long time. My team is so excited about it. It's shaking up the market and it's disruptive and it's everything that we want to bring to the table. So if you're looking for a better choice when it comes to your toilet paper, go to shopskinnyconfidential.com grab it now. We will sell out, but we're doing subscription, so I would definitely say to subscribe so you can make sure that you get it monthly. That's shopskinnyconfidential.com.
Unknown
I have been eating the same bowl of cereal every single night since I've gotten pregnant. And I'm at the point now where I'm eating it in bed on my stomach.
Michael Bostick
Amazing.
Unknown
Like, it's. It's so good. And I know it's gonna end soon, so I just am living it up.
Lauren Everts
I hope it ends like, tomorrow.
Unknown
Michael can't take it. He. I think see him. Cuz Michael, like, is someone who doesn't eat in the bed.
Bobby Parish
No, I don't believe in eating bed.
Unknown
Tray with, like, sides that I put my newspaper and my magazine in that I put my iPad. I like. I love eating in bed. It's my favorite thing.
Lauren Everts
This may be sexist, but I found more women like to eat in bed than men.
Unknown
Well, then go date a guy. I am forever gonna eat in bed. I love my. My daughter and I have slumber parties in bed. She tells me it's her favorite part of life. She like, we have Plowman's lunch.
Lauren Everts
Yeah. But you know what? She. They do that together. And my daughter goes on my side while they do it. I come in and there's just crumbs everywhere.
Michael Bostick
That's annoying.
Lauren Everts
Yeah, that's annoying. And I'm sweeping off the bed. You know like when you look like a nut and you're wiping the sheet? Like, that's what I. That's horrible.
Unknown
We will forever eat in bed.
Lauren Everts
And then Lauren's like, why are you making so much noise? I'm like, because there's fucking crows everywhere. Sweet.
Michael Bostick
It's a bad feeling.
Unknown
Can we do my cereal on air? Like, I don't have the App, though. I have to get it. So can we do it on your app? Like, can Erica pull it up?
Michael Bostick
Absolutely.
Unknown
Okay, so the first thing that I have is I have probably a cup of real real cereal. It's the flakes. Corn flakes.
Lauren Everts
It's called real real cereal.
Unknown
It's called real real cereal. I want to see what it's rated on your.
Michael Bostick
Interesting. That's the brand?
Unknown
Yeah.
Michael Bostick
Is it that newish brand that, like, has the old school look to it, but made with better ingredients?
Unknown
Okay, I want to know what your app rates it.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, that one is. Well, that one uses like an organic corn and everything.
Unknown
I know. That's why I want to see what the app says.
Michael Bostick
Pretty sure that one's Bobby approved.
Unknown
I think it's Bobby approved. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. That's a cool new brand that I just found like a few months ago. I thought you were gonna say something way worse.
Unknown
It's real. No, I have another one and then I mixed with it. Okay, I'm giving you the good one first.
Lauren Everts
Oh, it's approved, huh?
Unknown
It's approved. Okay, so it's real, real. It's the cornflakes. The second thing that I mix in there is Mother's Best Frosted Shredded Wheat.
Michael Bostick
No chance.
Lauren Everts
There's no cheater.
Michael Bostick
Don't you love that name? Mother's Best?
Unknown
This is a version. I think that's a good version.
Michael Bostick
Well, it's probably better for you than frosted Beans.
Unknown
Maybe it'll convince me not to have it.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. I was hoping you say something I can give you an alternative to, but I don't think there's a Bobby approved frosted Shredded Wheat.
Unknown
You should make one. I'm not joking.
Lauren Everts
Just abandon everything you're doing and make.
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Lauren Everts
Yeah.
Unknown
Who doesn't like a frosted Shredded Wheat?
Michael Bostick
It's got cane sugar. Okay. Is it organic wheat in there too, though? No. So.
Unknown
So it's horrible.
Michael Bostick
I wouldn't say it's horrible, but it's probably. I mean, it's not like as bad as few as the other one.
Unknown
So it's not boggy.
Lauren Everts
Let's just put it this way. You wouldn't be swapping into it, but.
Unknown
What'S wrong with it? The cane sugar.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. 12 grams of added cane sugar. So let's just think about it for a second. Right, so 12 grams of added cane sugar is three teaspoons. Okay, so imagine three teaspoons of a white sugar in your bowl of cereal. It's a lot. That's a lot.
Unknown
I do like Extra too. I'm like, every night's a couple more.
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Lauren Everts
Don't you have to be worried about like diabetes and stuff during pregnancy?
Unknown
Michael, mind your own business.
Michael Bostick
I was gonna say that, but I'm.
Unknown
Glad you mind your own business. I didn't do that test.
Michael Bostick
Yes.
Lauren Everts
Listen. Not a doctor. Sure. You have to ask the question.
Michael Bostick
Exactly.
Unknown
Looks at me with the eyes of when I'm eating that cereal. I'm like, don't even try.
Michael Bostick
I'll curate a list of other Bobby approved cereals for you to eat.
Unknown
But it has to be frosted.
Michael Bostick
So if you want a. A version of Cocoa Puffs that are Bobby approved, I can hook you up.
Unknown
What?
Michael Bostick
So Cocoa Puffs bad.
Unknown
Okay.
Michael Bostick
Seven Sundays. Cocoa Puff cereal good.
Unknown
I like that. I just bought that for my kids.
Michael Bostick
There we go. Right?
Unknown
Better than the one with the panda on it.
Michael Bostick
Yes.
Unknown
Oh, I just bought that one too.
Michael Bostick
Fuzzy Panda. Usually when there's fuzzy things that's a bad thing on, on labels.
Unknown
I know the Smacks has the frog and the Lucky Charms, but why can't.
Lauren Everts
The clean brands use the fuzzy pandas.
Michael Bostick
And get, if they get, maybe it's below them. They're like, we're not going to resort to a stupid tricks to fool our kids.
Unknown
Okay, so I'm going to exchange the Fuzzy Panda and get the sundae.
Michael Bostick
There we go. Seven sundaes. Real Cocoa Puffs.
Unknown
What about Magic Spoon?
Michael Bostick
So better for you than like, like the junkie cereal. But like, not even close to Bobby approved. So if you looked it up on the app, it has sunflower oil in there. It has natural flavorings. So like I'll tell people, hey, that's better than Lucky Charms, but it's not good for you.
Unknown
What do you think about children's supplements? This is so random, but I, I'm giving my kids supplements every day and I, I don't want to give them Flintstone vitamins. So what. What are the best children's supplements?
Michael Bostick
But Flintstones are doctor recommended. Michael.
Unknown
Pediatrician.
Michael Bostick
You're being foolish.
Lauren Everts
Oh, and I would say that I survived off of hose water and Flintstone vitamins.
Unknown
Anoindex, don't forget.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. In general, I think kid supplements are unnecessary. Oh yeah? Yeah. This is my opinion. I think it should come from the diet. I think of the one supplement that my daughter takes is a good probiotic. So seed makes a powdered kid's probiotic. Well, that's great. Right? Because like they can eat nutritious food, but getting things that foster like the microbiome and the Gut, which is the second brain, really important. But I mean, think about it. Most of those things are made of like synthetic vitamins anyway. And what's the bioavailability of that?
Unknown
You know, what do you, how do you think about giving your daughter food? Like, is there a method to the way that you feed her?
Michael Bostick
It's gotten a little more challenging. So she's in kindergarten.
Unknown
Tell me about it.
Michael Bostick
So before that it was like, oh, anything you put in front of her that we're eating for dinner, she would eat. But now it's gotten challenging because she goes to school. Right.
Unknown
And they have an opinion.
Michael Bostick
There's that too. And so she sees the kids eating like the goldfish and like the lay's potato chips bag. And then I noticed she doesn't want to eat all the food we eat. I noticed like I eat a lot of red meat. I had a lot of grass fed steak. I'm sure you do too. So. But she doesn't want that anymore. She doesn't want to chew on the food. She wants it like softer. So like I've been making bobby approved versions of chicken nuggets. So I'll get pasture raised ground chicken and bread it in stone milled flour and fry it in avocado oil and serve it with primal kitchen ketchup.
Lauren Everts
It sounds pretty good.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, it's really good.
Lauren Everts
I want to be your child now.
Michael Bostick
So. Yeah, it just, it creates more work.
Unknown
It's a lot of work. And you're right about them not wanting to chew, but you want them to chew because it's, it's so good for their jaw.
Michael Bostick
Yes.
Unknown
I even was like, to my daughter, I was like, you can have some gum because it's good, it's good for chewing.
Michael Bostick
Well. Yeah, well, actually you're 100% on it. All the foods we eat now are so processed and soft that like our jaw muscles are weak and everything like that.
Lauren Everts
Yeah, you know, I, there's like, the more I hear you talk though, I think, you know, there's hope for people if they, if they just apply like, you know, what you're already providing out there, which is like just better for you. Swaps the majority of the time and consistently get off all the stuff that we know is harmful. Like the problem is, is most people's diets that are, you know, that don't have access to the information, they're using poor ingredients consistently all the time, multiple meals a day, like that's what eventually kills us, right?
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Lauren Everts
If you can just eliminate the majority of that stuff. And once in a while, if your kid has a bag of chips at school and but the majority of the time she's eating healthy with you guys. Like, I think that makes such a huge difference.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, for sure. And even, but even if you go back to cooking that own food yourself, so like, even if you made like chicken nuggets like I did, or even if you had fried chicken three times a week, if you're making it yourself, it's miles better than getting kfc. Or like, I did a video one time at what's the chicken place. Everyone goes, chick Fil A. Yeah, Chick Fil A. And I said, why is it so addictive? And so I ordered everything. And like, I took a bite. I'm like, damn, that's really good. They put MSG like three times in there. They put foods in there that make you hook to it. Right. So if you made a fried chicken sandwich at home in avocado oil with, with like organic chicken, it's still not great for you, but it's a million times better than the version at Chick Fil A.
Unknown
The MSG is wild. It makes you like, go to sleep.
Michael Bostick
It's crazy.
Unknown
It really is wild.
Michael Bostick
Yeah.
Unknown
Why did you decide to disrupt the supplement industry?
Michael Bostick
So that came about because people would always ask me, like, what supplements, what proteins are bobby approved? And supplements are interesting because, like, I don't use a ton of supplements, but I do think they have a purpose and a point for a lot of people. But a lot of them have ingredients that are the opposite of what a supplementation should be. Like, so many protein powders have sunflower oil and gums to make them creamy. So many vitamins. The carrier oil is corn oil and soybean oil. So I'm like, well, this is a problem because this is not actually good for you. So like that protein in front of you. I used to always make this protein smoothie on stories after my workout. And it had like 12 hipster ingredients. It had grass fed whey, it had grass fed collagen, coconut milk for healthy fat, regular milk for, you know, the viscosity, reishi mushrooms, cordyceps mushrooms. And so I thought to myself, well, can I powderize all those ingredients and put it in a bag so someone can have an all in one complete smoothie without gums, oils, emulsifiers, natural flavorings. And it turned out I could. And the reason why people, other people don't do it in the industry and make clean products in general is because it's a little harder. It's definitely more Expensive, but it's the right thing to do. It's people over profits.
Lauren Everts
I like that you use whey in this with the collagen.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. And it's 100% grass fed undenatured way, so it's very gut friendly.
Lauren Everts
Yeah. A lot of people are trying to just do like the collagen now and the protein, it's not, it's not a complete protein.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown
I'm also learning too that I've learned through this podcast that a lot of the supplements aren't, aren't even absorbing.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. Bioavailability, right? Yeah. So like you're taking them crazy. And your body like 99% of vitamin Cs are made of ascorbic acid or calcium ascorbate. It's synthetically derived from corn. So like your body can't even absorb all that. Right. So like I'm like, well, I'm gonna make a vitamin C and I call it C later. And it has acerola juice powder, camu. Camu powder and AMLA, which are 100 bioavailable. So like it can be done. But once again, people like shortcuts and people like higher profit margins, so that's why they don't do it.
Lauren Everts
What's the majority of the pushback that you personally get when you're out there creating this kind of content?
Michael Bostick
He's not an expert. Why are you listening to him? He's not a doctor. Which is funny because like doctors spend like one hour in their entire medical training on nutrition.
Lauren Everts
Don't get me started. I said this and the audience was split. Some people were mad, other people were not. But we've had doctors come on that have admitted that they don't get that kind of training.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, like, like you said earlier, it's not a knock on the doctors, but you wouldn't go to them for nutrition. So there, I'd say that's the number one thing, is that he's not an expert. Why would you listen to him? And then all of a sudden, like after I got got like to a certain size of followers, like I became like a grifter and like a scam artist somehow. So like, like why would you listen to him? He's a grifter. Like I don't even understand what that means. But you know, for the most part, I honestly don't pay attention to that. Like I don't even read the comments of that.
Unknown
Whose content do you consume that you look to that you think is doing.
Michael Bostick
A really good job, like in general across any Medium.
Unknown
Yes.
Bobby Parish
Besides our podcast.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, of course, of course, yeah. So it's interesting. So like, that's basically like, like all I watch at night. So like at 8 o' clock I'll pop on YouTube and I'll usually just watch podcasts. So, like, it's so different. Like sometimes, like I'll just find myself watching like a Brian Johnson video just to see what crazy thing he's doing.
Lauren Everts
Have you guys ever met up?
Michael Bostick
No, I haven't met him.
Lauren Everts
We got to make that connection.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, yeah. So, right, so like where that, that's so like above or like beyond what I would do. Like, I find it interesting to just see what he's doing. Right. Maybe you could pull a little information out of there so that, that's interesting. I watch a lot of creator content. So like I've been in this creator game for like 13 years. So like I like to watch podcasts from other creators who talk about like their journey and what helps them and how to be better at that and then. But then I'll find myself watching videos about like luxury watch market and why it's in a bear market. So it's very random.
Lauren Everts
Like watches.
Michael Bostick
I don't even own a watch, but I like the idea of luxury watches.
Lauren Everts
Once you start going down that rabbit hole.
Michael Bostick
I've heard, I've heard, I've heard it's a deep dark.
Lauren Everts
I watch. I watch YouTube videos on watches. I find that interesting too.
Michael Bostick
It's very interesting.
Unknown
I just take note of what Michael says. Michael watches all of it. And I just sit back and tell him which one I want for my push present.
Lauren Everts
You won't believe what this plastic container is doing to your food. Good night.
Michael Bostick
You just sit back with the ball on your stomach making crumbs while he's watching.
Unknown
People should try that mixture, but I'm going to try it with the sundae. Cocoa puff.
Michael Bostick
Yes.
Unknown
Okay. Where can everyone follow you, find you support what you're doing? Get your all in one protein smoothie powder, which the berries and cream looks so good.
Michael Bostick
It's very yummy. So if you want to watch my videos and just learn how to shop cleaner. A lot of people like to watch my Costco videos because Costco has a cult following. You can just follow me on any platform, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok under Bobby Parish.
Unknown
What are you getting at Costco? What are the top three things?
Michael Bostick
Yeah, so like staples that I always get there. So they have fantastic extra virgin olive oil for a great price in glass bottles too. And once you go down that rabbit hole. Lauren, if you want to go down there, you realize that 80% plus of extra virgin olive oils are actually fake.
Lauren Everts
Have you tried Brian Johnson snake oil olive oil?
Michael Bostick
I haven't, but I assume that it's real life.
Unknown
Chosen foods or Primal Kitchen Primary kitchen for avocado oil. Primal Kitchen.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, they're good for avocado oil.
Unknown
Okay.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. So their extra virgin olive oil is fantastic. They have, have a great deal on Kerrygold grass fed cheese. So Kerrygold is 95 grass fed.
Unknown
Love it.
Michael Bostick
Right. Not, not raw. But it's hard to find that, that's a must. They actually have really great snacks there. They have grass fed beef sticks there and they actually just, just got these grass fed wagyu beef sticks from Epic Bar, which I think is an awesome bar.
Unknown
I saw you post that.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, Delicious.
Unknown
Okay.
Michael Bostick
Delicious. And then pantry staples like if you want to get high protein lean foods, they have, have the best prices on lead. Lead free tuna, wild caught canned salmon and stuff like that. So yeah, if you want to learn more, there's a video called the top 25 things to buy at Costco in 2025 on YouTube. It will cover everything there.
Unknown
We gotta tell your dad that your dad's a big Costco shop.
Lauren Everts
Oh my God. He's like the only guy that doesn't get carded there. He just lives.
Unknown
You know what I like at Costco? A big hot dog.
Lauren Everts
Is that approved?
Michael Bostick
No, no it's not. It's super cheap.
Unknown
Those hot dogs though are so good.
Michael Bostick
Isn't that crazy? You can get like a foot long hot dog in a for like under two bucks. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Crazy.
Unknown
Yeah, those. But you know what you can't buy at Costco? The toilet paper. I have to give you some of my toilet paper.
Michael Bostick
I heard you have non toxic toilet paper.
Unknown
I have clean toilet paper.
Michael Bostick
I would love to try that.
Unknown
Which is. Is Bobby approved? Can I get on the app?
Michael Bostick
Yes. We will submit your product in the app right now.
Unknown
No formaldehyde and no chlorine.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, that's one of those rabbit hole things that if you do go down it, you realize like yikes, I'm wiping my butt.
Unknown
I went down the rabbit hole of toilet paper.
Lauren Everts
Yeah, we live in a fucking rabbit hole.
Unknown
No, the rabbit hole of toilet paper. I think I should be on the BO approved app.
Michael Bostick
I'm sure it's there already. We can, we can check.
Unknown
I love it.
Michael Bostick
We can check. So yeah. So you go to YouTube. Any platform, search my name. Bobbi Parish.
Unknown
We have a code too.
Michael Bostick
Yeah. So if you want to get the supplement. So we have the all in one protein smoothie. Summer's coming. We have electrolytes. It's one of the only ones on the market that uses real organic fruit instead of natural flavorings, which they fly. In the grocery store. We have these sleep gummies that are made of phytomelatonin that are the same thing. Plants. Plants and flowers open and close at night. That's the same melatonin from plants.
Unknown
And it's the first seed. Oil free, refined, sugar free. Gummy.
Michael Bostick
Correct. There's no other gummy on the market. And I thought, is there a reason why? Oh, yeah. It's a little harder to make. It's a little more expensive, but you can do it. So all those products. Yeah. So I think we created a promo code. If you go to the website shopflavcity.com you can get 15% off site wide just for Skinny Confidential users with code. Skinny.
Lauren Everts
Thank you for that.
Michael Bostick
And if you guys do want to do a giveaway or something like that.
Unknown
Sure, let's do a giveaway. Let's give away all of Bobby's favorite products. Bobby approved. All you guys have to do is.
Bobby Parish
Tell us your favorite part of this.
Unknown
Episode on my latest post at Lauren Bostic and follow Bobby on Instagram, which is Bobby Parrish. Easy.
Michael Bostick
I think our favorite part of the podcast is learning that Michael has to sleep in crumbs of your cereal.
Unknown
You know what?
Lauren Everts
It's unbelievable.
Unknown
You know what I have to sleep in. Wait, hold on. You want to go down this rabbit hole? You know what I have to sleep in? I just bought silk pillowcases. Gorgeous silk pillowcases. Fucking monogrammed with his initials on.
Michael Bostick
Wow.
Unknown
He gets in bed the other day with his hair gel that we just found out has jet fuel in it. Lays his hard helmet head on the pillow, all over the brand new silk pillowcase.
Lauren Everts
And then he wants no, it's natural.
Bobby Parish
Me to lay it organic.
Lauren Everts
Bunny gave me Jack Henry. I think that's.
Michael Bostick
That's what I use too.
Lauren Everts
Jack Henry.
Michael Bostick
It's amazing.
Lauren Everts
It's not a jet.
Unknown
There's jet fuel in the open. It's mango butter and no, no, there's jet fuel in his hairspray. Don't let him.
Michael Bostick
Oh, hairspray's a no go.
Unknown
Hairspray's not Bobby approved.
Lauren Everts
I have 0.0% hairspray in my hair right now. I swear.
Unknown
Okay. They threw it away.
Michael Bostick
Yeah, that hurts because they threw it away.
Lauren Everts
Yeah, that's why. Literally, she threw the whole thing.
Unknown
I threw it away. I'm. No. Because someone came on the podcast and told us that Hairspray has jet fuel.
Michael Bostick
You know what?
Lauren Everts
When she irritates me now, I'm just going to look at her and, like, you know, this is not my clothes.
Unknown
I've decided that I'm not gonna hook up with you anymore if you are wearing Hairspray.
Lauren Everts
We'll see about that.
Michael Bostick
Actually, I. I hate perfume, too, so. Like, those perfumes and fragrances. Like, I will not hook up with my. With my wife if she wears perfume.
Lauren Everts
Yeah, I don't.
Unknown
You heard it here first. That's a. An exclusive. A skinny confidential exclusive. He does not hook up with his wife if she's wearing perfume. And guess what? You heard it here first. I will no longer hook up with you if you are wearing jet fuel on your hair.
Lauren Everts
I will make you a bet that that's not true.
Unknown
Bobby, thanks for coming on the show.
Michael Bostick
My pleasure.
Lauren Everts
Thank you, Robbie.
The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Show: Episode Summary
Episode Title: Bobby Parrish On The Truth About Food Labels, Hidden Ingredients Making You Sick, Healthy Swaps, & ‘Bobby Approved' Grocery Swaps
Release Date: June 30, 2025
Hosts: Lauryn Evarts Bosstick & Michael Bosstick
Guest: Bobby Parrish
00:00 – 01:07
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick and Michael Bosstick kick off the episode by introducing their guest, Bobby Parrish. Bobby is renowned for his significant influence in the clean ingredient movement, boasting over 18 million followers and a popular grocery store companion app. His journey from facing personal hardships like eviction and family illness to becoming a leader in food transparency sets the stage for an insightful discussion. Bobby’s core mission is "Know what you're putting into your body," aiming to empower consumers with the knowledge to make healthier food choices.
01:07 – 04:18
Bobby and Michael delve deep into the pervasive issue of seed oils in the modern diet. Michael provides a historical perspective, explaining that seed oils were originally machine lubricants before being repurposed as affordable cooking oils by Big Agriculture in the 1920s and 1930s. He highlights their ubiquity and inflammatory properties:
Michael Bostick: “They’re all highly inflammatory. They’re essentially rancid. They’ve been deodorized and bleached, they’ve been chemical laced” (02:23).
Lauren points out the alarming uniformity of seed oils on grocery shelves:
Lauren Evarts: “What's crazy is that they're all the same color... How does that process even happen?” (02:29).
Michael explains the industrial processes that strip these oils of their natural properties, making them prevalent and misleadingly healthy-looking:
Michael Bostick: “We are bleaching it, we're deodorizing it, and we're making it so it looks exactly the same...” (02:30).
04:07 – 06:04
The conversation shifts to the deceptive nature of food labeling, particularly the term "natural flavors." Michael criticizes this label for its lack of regulation and potential to mask harmful additives:
Michael Bostick: “Natural flavoring makes it seem like it's good for you, and it's really an unregulated term...” (04:53).
Lauren echoes concerns about the uniform color of seed oils, questioning how such processes can alter the natural appearance and quality of oils:
Lauren Evarts: “What’s crazy is that they’re all the same color.” (02:29).
They emphasize the importance of reading ingredient lists to avoid harmful additives and make healthier swaps, such as using avocado oil, ghee, or grass-fed butter.
06:04 – 09:34
Lauren and Michael discuss the fine line between being health-conscious and becoming overly obsessive about every ingredient. Lauren shares her struggle with information overload, fearing contamination from pesticides like glyphosate:
Lauren Evarts: “I was cleaning them with vinegar and baking soda, and I just found out that the vinegar negates the baking soda...” (06:25).
Michael advises maintaining a balanced approach:
Michael Bostick: “I try to draw the line somewhere and come back down to normalcy.” (07:00).
They advocate for an 80/20 approach, where the majority of food choices are healthy, allowing for occasional indulgences without guilt or extreme restrictions.
09:34 – 16:38
The hosts and Bobby reflect on how the food industry has historically misled consumers. Michael draws parallels between Big Tobacco’s tactics and Big Agriculture’s strategies to promote harmful products as healthy alternatives:
Michael Bostick: “They took all of the food scientists and the marketing team from tobacco, put them on food...” (13:05).
Lauren adds that animal proteins were demonized despite being a staple in human diets for thousands of years, highlighting the evolutionary disconnect caused by introducing processed and foreign ingredients:
Lauren Evarts: “Humans evolved eating animal proteins for thousands of years... It’s not going to go well.” (14:20).
Michael critiques the rise of plant-based alternatives that often contain the same harmful additives as their animal-based counterparts, undermining their purported health benefits.
14:39 – 16:38
Michael shares his personal story of his mother’s battle with multiple sclerosis (MS), which deeply influenced his commitment to clean eating. Witnessing her struggle reinforced the belief that nutrition plays a crucial role in health and wellness:
Michael Bostick: “Food is really supposed to be nutritious... I want to eat food that I know is going to help my body thrive.” (15:58).
The discussion underscores the link between diet and inflammation, particularly in managing chronic diseases like MS. Michael explains:
Michael Bostick: “If you think about the average diet... it’s very inflammatory.” (16:38).
This personal connection propels the mission to educate others on making informed, health-conscious food choices.
16:38 – 17:00
Before transitioning into promotional segments, the hosts summarize key points:
Michael and Lauren emphasize the importance of informed choices and provide tools, such as Bobby’s app, to help listeners navigate the complex food landscape.
This episode offers a comprehensive examination of the hidden ingredients in everyday foods and the deceptive practices of the food industry. Bobby Parrish, alongside hosts Lauryn and Michael Bosstick, provides valuable insights and practical advice for consumers seeking to make healthier, more informed dietary choices. By highlighting the importance of ingredient transparency and advocating for balanced eating habits, the episode empowers listeners to take control of their health without falling into the trap of overconsumption or nutritional paranoia.
For listeners seeking to delve deeper into clean eating and ingredient transparency, Bobby’s app serves as an invaluable tool, bridging the gap between consumer awareness and practical application in grocery shopping. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to transform their relationship with food and prioritize their well-being.