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Dr. Gerry Curatola On The Oral Microbiome, Ozempic Teeth, Jaw Clenching, & What Your Dentist Isn't Telling You
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Michael Bostic
The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Fantastic.
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Michael Bostic
And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Are bringing you along for the ride.
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Lauren Everts
Get ready for some major realness.
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Michael Bostic
Welcome to the Skinny Confidential.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Him and her.
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Michael Bostic
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. Today we have our friend, Dr. Jerry Curatola for the second time on this podcast. Podcast. The first time he was on, it absolutely crushed it and it blew people's minds. Dr. Jerry Curatola is an internationally acclaimed biologic dentist, researcher and author of the Mouth Body Connection, known as a pioneer of oral microbiome science and prebiotic dentistry with over 40 years of practice, founder of Rejuvenation Dentistry and pioneer of the oral microbiome science behind Revitin prebiotic toothpaste. He's a longtime NYU faculty member and friend. He's the dentist that Lauren and I see, the one that we take our kids to and quickly has become a friend and trusted advisor when it comes to taking care of our mouths. In this episode. Episode, we're diving into all the ways that we should be taking care of our mouth, things that we should look for, how the mouth is one of the first lines of defense when it comes to our overall health and so much more. This episode's for anyone that's interested in health, wellness, and understanding the mouth and body connection a little bit better. We also talk about what many dentists aren't actually telling you and misconceptions around the oral microbiome. With that Dr. Juri, welcome back to the Skinny Confidential. Him and her show. This is the Skinny Confidential.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Him and her.
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Lauren Everts
You know how everyone in the world is like, I got the guy. You know how I got the guy? We actually got the guy. And the guy is in the studio, we have our biological dentist. Who is the what of dentistry?
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Michael Bostic
The father of the father.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah. Cue the godfather music of dentistry. Biological dentistry.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
43 years.
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Lauren Everts
Explain in layman's terms to someone who's listening, what's the difference between a regular dentist and a biological dentist?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Well, you know, biologic dentistry is a philosophy of practice. It's not a specialty. It is really an approach that looks at root causes, that looks at toxicity and inflammation. And it looks at A lot of my background in biologic dentistry is rooted in biologic medicine. And it was really Switzerland and Germany that was very, you know, this going back 30 years, there was a man by the name of Thomas Rao, and he had opened a clinic in Switzerland called Paracelsus. And I had this nurse who was a patient of mining. She actually went to the program at Harvard Medical School with me in complementary and alternative medicine. There was a program for a short while up at Harvard Medical School. It's actually unfortunate. It was only run for about two or three years and then Harvard Medical School closed it. But it was really opening the opening doctors. I was open to all healthcare practitioners, which was really interesting because my first day there, there was a medical doctor there and he goes, hey, I'm Bob. You know, so and so. And I said, hey, Bob, I'm Jerry Curatola. And he goes, hey, Jerry, what do you do? And I said, I'm a dentist. And he goes, what are you doing here? Actually said, what are you doing here? I said, well, this is open to all healthcare practitioners. But you know, Bob, the mouth is not divorced from the rest of the body. Like, this is connected to this. And this is how kind of absurd healthcare has been with this division between medicine and dentistry. So I come out of that program and I immediately, you know, and. And what's interesting is we really looked at. At how the body regulates and heals and the effects of toxicity and inflammation. And when I started to really understand that a lot of what we do in dentistry is not creating coherence, which is a big word, or alignment with the rest of the body, like mercury fillings, like root canals, you know, which, by the way, yeah, we.
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Michael Bostic
And this is your second time on the show, guys. We dove deep into the root canal issue with Dr. J. Went crazy viral when we did that with you. So if you haven't heard that episode, go out, check or watch it. Go check it out. But yeah, keep going.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah. And, you know, and then this understanding that, you know, a lot of the materials we use in dentistry that we think are mechanically good for restoring the tooth are actually like even some of the resins we use. Most popular resin in restorative dentistry is something called bis. GMA resin. Well, bis. The bis part is bisphenyl, a bpa. So you have. And then this huge issue with microplastics. So you're putting these microplastics in the mouth at 98.6 degrees, you know, body temperature. And if you grind your teeth and, you know, clench and all this, you're going to swallow these particles. And then there are dentists will like, oh, well, my parent, my patients. I've been practicing 30 years. My patients are still alive. And I'm like, yeah, but just because you don't see the symptoms yet. It doesn't mean that there isn't a bio burden or bioaccumulation. It's like mercury fillings, right? And I call them mercury fillings, and I don't call them amalgam anymore because they're not silver fillings. They're 52% mercury. So if you call it a silver filling, it's really a fraudulent misrepresentation in my opinion. And so these mercury fillings off gas and the. The.
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Michael Bostic
We know this now for a while.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah, we know this. It's been tested. I went on the Dr. Oz show and they actually took a mercury vapor ionizer in this contained thing. And Dr. Oz gets up and says, you know, he's holding a thermometer and he goes, if I drop this thermometer, you will have to evacuate the studio. And, you know, because the mercury would spill. And yet, you know, dentists are working with this stuff, you know, since the Civil War, and they're putting this stuff. Still putting the stuff in teeth. Why? Because it's cheap, it's easy to put in. I mean, a monkey could put an amalgam filling in with a thumb, you know, you know, you could basically put it in. And dentists used to put it in with their thumb. When I was first in practice, you know, I would actually see. Had a couple of patients, and I was like, what are these grooves on the top of the. Oh, it's a thumbprint. Because they didn't even wear gloves and they would put it in now. Yeah. You know, our bodies can get mercury out, right? We have the ability, Most of us, 86% of us have an ability to chelate heavy metals and get these out of the body. But there's another 14% that don't that have a genetic variation. It's called the APOE4 gene. And they can't get it out. And these are people that get all kinds of neurological problems from. From a neurotoxin, which. Mercury is the most neurotoxic element on earth. So some people could.
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Michael Bostic
So, so, so, like, if 100 people get it, 86 of them could be, hey, I'm fine. But the other 14 have no ability to get it out. And they are the ones that become symptomatic.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
It bioaccumulates and, you know, and actually bioaccumulates anyway, and we get some of it out. And then eventually, you know, if you got like 10 fillings, you know, or. Or, you know, 12 surfaces of this stuff, you will end up, you know, having subtle effect, like People who have gut problems. That's a symptom of mercury toxicity, brain fog, irritability, all of that stuff. Actually, the symptoms of mercury toxicity and the symptoms of Alzheimer's disease are identical.
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Michael Bostic
Wow.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
So, you know, and we see that so many people, you know, and. And actually, what do they say? It takes 20 years for the symptoms of Alzheimer's to kind of start to show after exposure to neurotoxins and things like that. So we see a lot of things in dentistry that just really are. You know, dentistry needs to pivot. You know, there is this really illogical and. And really harmful, I think, lack of connection between medicine and dentistry, between, you know, what you would say, medical doctors and dentists. You know, it happened a century ago. And your mouth is the center, literally the center of coherence for the whole body. This concept of coherence, which I learned in Switzerland and Germany with Dr. Thomas Rao, who I was starting to talk about, said, this guy, I had a nurse who did the Harvard program. Her name was Barbara. And she came to me and said, oh, Jerry, there's a change in my manner. I became her patient. She became my patient. She basically cured my daughter of chronic sinusitis just by altering her nutrition and her diet, got her off dairy and gluten. This is before, you know, that was even known. We're talking about the late 1990s. She came to me, and then all of a sudden, she tells me, there's a change in my medical history. I was just diagnosed with breast cancer. And I was like. My first knee jerk response was, oh, are you going to Sloan Kettering? Which is the, you know, the big cancers, you know, anybody who has cancer. And she's like, hell, no. You know, that's a meat grinder. I'm going to the Paracelsus Clinic. And she's like, you know, it was founded by this Dr. Thomas Round. Then she said to me, you know, you need to meet him, because he is the first medical doctor that. That I've ever met where if you have anything wrong, the first thing he says is, open your mouth. You have amalgams, you have root canals. You have, you know, microblastics. Do you have holes where your wisdom teeth were removed? A lot of people get their wisdom teeth extracted. There's an extraction socket. And we used to think, oh, you know, the gums grow over, you know, the bone fills in and everything is groovy. And now we know that that doesn't happen a lot because the way bone regenerates and heals is it Needs a scaffold, you know, the cells that make new bone and all that. So you end up with what's called a hole in the jaw, which is referred to as a cavitation. And you hear it talked about a lot these days. Why? Because now we have diagnostic tools to be, to be able to see them.
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Michael Bostic
Do you believe people should get their wisdom teeth taken out?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
That depends on whether they are malpositioned or not. I think the answer to your question is I think a lot of wisdom teeth get extracted almost like a rite of passage, you know, you know, you're 16, get your wisdom teeth out there, going to be a problem later on. And that's not necessarily true. So I think there's a lot of, a lot of unnecessary third molar extractions, wisdom teeth extractions. There's a lot of unnecessary root canals being done, like, oh, you got a toothache? Oh, it's a root canal. And it's like, you know, like a root canal is no big deal. And it is a big deal. You're literally devitalizing a tooth and doing taxidermy on a tooth. That's essentially what root canal is. And you know, you know, a lot of my root canal specialist colleagues, endodontists, they're always telling me, oh, Jerry, you know, you're an alarmist. And I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm just looking at the fact that. And a devitalized tooth does go through changes. And, and there are 100% of endodontically treated teeth. In one PubMed study, 100% of endemically treated teeth produce endotoxins. And endotoxins are bacteria and bacterial byproducts that are inflammatory and dysregulate your immune system. So if you can avoid a root canal, you want to avoid it now. Do root canals get people out of pain? Do root canals keep the tooth in your head for a period of time where it's not going to be creating havoc? Absolutely. But we really need to look at the long term implications because anything dead in the human body will necrose. It decomposes over time, even if it's filled, even if there's no fever, no pain, and no swelling.
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Michael Bostic
So instead of a root canal, would you, if you could make your decision, would you just say, pull the tooth and not mess with that, or would you say it's situational?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
I, I think it's a viable option if you want to, like, be proactive about long term, you know, issues. I think proactively, you know, the cost of a root canal and the cost of a dental implant are equivalent. And a ceramic dental implant can give many, many years of service. Now, metal implants are also controversial now because all of the studies and the research that's emerging is that metal implants can also produce endotoxins and they also don't generate healthy bone. They actually create sclerotic bone. It's almost like scar tissue bone versus ceramic implants which have been shown to have vascular bone or bone with a blood supply.
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Lauren Everts
I want to go back to what you were about the woman who had breast cancer. Do you think that root canals and these implants that are metal are contributing to cancer?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Well, I think that most those two procedures, root canals and metal implants and the production of endotoxins. When you talk about cancer, we're really looking at the fact that cancer is multifactorial. You know, it's not like, oh, you know, Susie got breast cancer, Tommy got prostate cancer, da da dum. And there's a cascade of events where the train goes off the tracks and inflammation, chronic inflammation creates really is known to, you know, you flip, you can flip a flip a switch, a genetic switch, and you end up with what's called tumor genesis or the growth of tumors. And then what we're finding right now, and a lot of the research is moving in the direction of there's this onslaught of parasitic activity and that every cancer has a parasite attached to it. So you have people now, you know, using things like ivermectin and anti parasitic drugs in their treatment protocols to actually reverse cancer is not this, you know, scary thing anymore. We're understanding that cancer is just the end stage of dysregulation. So to your point, can an infected root canal? And I had a patient come into me before COVID actually a while back, and she was a new patient. She had come, you know, for an aesthetic. I know she was interested in getting veneers. And so she came in and they, we, we go through a pro. We go through a comprehensive protocol. When a patient comes in, we will do a 3D cone beam automatically just to scan for, you know, because those little tiny X rays, which are 2D are almost irrelevant in some cases.
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Lauren Everts
This is what you did for me and Michael when we came in.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
So a cone beam shows a ton of things. If anybody hasn't had a cone beam, they should definitely. I read them routinely with virtual consoles. I mean, people all over the world do virtual consults with me to read their cone beam. And I really do help kind of direct and, and Help them understand of what maybe their dentist hasn't shown them their whole. Only because he doesn't either have that technology or he's not trained in reading that. And a lot of general dentists don't even bother.
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Lauren Everts
So you had a patient that came in that wanted an aesthetic, and you did a com.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
This was incredible. She came in for an aesthetic consult. And on one side, when I went, the cone beam was up. You know, we have these big monitors, which you guys have seen the. There was a big monitor up in my conference room. And on the monitor, they happened to put our cone beam up. And on one side, on the upper right, on the molar, the first molar, which, by the way, is on a. You know, there are meridians. Like, that's how acupuncture works. But the first molar is like grand central station of energy flow in the body. It's on the breast meridian, it's on the thyroid meridian, it's on the stomach meridian. And on the upper right, it's on the pancreas. And on the upper left, it's on the spleen. That's a lot of energetic channels from your brain stem through every tooth to every organ system in the body. And so what we saw, what I saw when I walked into the room was she had an infected root canal that was so infected that it was. There was infection in her sinus, literally filling half of her sinus. And on the other side, she had a big black halo around the end of the root canal, which is sometimes indicative of a cyst. So my first answer to her was I said, you know, I said, hey, I'm just looking at your cone bee. Do you have any problems with your breasts? I hadn't looked at her medical history. I hadn't looked at anything. I said, do you have any breast problems? And she gave me this deer in the headlights look. And she said, I just had a double mastectomy at Sloan Kettering Hospital.
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Lauren Everts
Why is that a meat grinder?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Well, I'm saying that a lot of times, you know, the response to cancer in the. In the orthodox medical world is surgical, is like chemo, radiation, surgery. You know, it's like chemo, radiation, surgery, chemo, radiation, surgery, double mastectomy, double mastectomy. And, you know, not this concept that, can we reverse cancer? Can we cure cancer? Can we stop the progress of cancer? And I firmly believe, at this stage in my life, after 43 years and looking at conventional medicine, alternative medicine, functional medicine, biologic medicine, yes, we can get the body, and that's the thing that I learned in Switzerland, I learned that our body has this life force and it is, in Ayurveda they call it prana, and in Chinese medicine they call it chi. And in the Western world, you know, we call it the spirit, you know, but in biologic medicine, we call it the biologic field. It is this life force and it gives us the capacity to regulate and heal. And that's called coherence. That's that alignment.
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Lauren Everts
Why does it make people so uncomfortable when you say that we can cure cancer without the things that they do in the hospital?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Well, I know, I'm not saying that. I mean, curing cancer can also involve, and I'm not saying, oh, you don't need, you know, conventional medicine, you know, doesn't have a place and, and you know, you should only, you know, go, you know, walk on coals or, you know, get, get crystals. I, what I'm saying is, is that when we understand the root causes, when we understand that you can avoid the things, chronic inflammation. And that's why I'm, I'm here today with you guys to say dentistry. I, in my opinion, biologic dentistry is at the forefront of your ability to regulate and heal.
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Michael Bostic
Let me ask you this. What is the response from other dentists? Are they fans of your work? Do they dislike what you're doing?
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Lauren Everts
It's disruptive.
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Michael Bostic
Wait, hold on. Because I want to, Because I wonder.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
I, I'm like, I got, I now I really enjoy, you know, kind of, I love to educate the other dentist and I love, you know, unfortunately you get this herd mentality sometimes. Like fluoride is good. You know, fluoride prevents cavities. Fluoride, you know, putting fluoride in the water, putting fluoride in the water has done absolutely nothing. And they even, even the, you know, there was something called the Cochrane Report, the cdc, the World Health Organization. Actually I was on a debate with someone from the American Dental Association. He was saying that, you know, water fluoridation was the greatest thing in the 20th century, you know, and I'm like, you know, have you looked at the science? Have you looked at the facts? Western Europe most, 80 and 90% of Western Europe never fluoridated. And the decay rates from 1970 to 2010 went down the, exactly the same as the United States, Australia and New Zealand who fluoridated and threw this crap in the water, which is crap, it is industrial waste product. And so, you know, and everybody, finally, we're waking up because dumping it in the water is not only ineffectual but it's harmful. There's more than 60 studies linking drinking fluoridated water and lower IQ in children because it's not. It's not even clean flora. It has arsenic.
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Lauren Everts
Lowering my iq. Daddy, he gave me fluoride toothpaste.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
All of us, right, I know. And you know, the thing is, like, we think, first of all, we know that fluoride works, if it works at all, it works topically because it does promote. And it actually, actually fluorine, which is, you know, if you want to look at. I'm not to bring you back to high school chemistry, but if you want to look at F minus, it is the most. Fluorine, which fluoride was kind of made up from the word fluorine is the element on the periodic table. Fluorine is the most highly char. Highly negatively charged element on the periodic table that's not radioactive next to radioactive. So it's the most highly charged non radioactive element on the periodic table, which means that when you introduce it in the body, it blows out other negatively charged. So our teeth and bones are made of hydroxyapatite, not the synthetic mineral they make, you know, that's made, you know, they're putting in toothpaste to spackle tubules of teeth.
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Michael Bostic
The reason I asked if other. And you still have to answer if.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
They like, I gotta get to that.
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Michael Bostic
But the reason I ask is, you know, after meeting you years ago and going to you as our dentist and seeing you, you know, if I have to go to another dentist for another reason for a teeth clean or whatever, and I tell them at the end, like, don't give me any fluoride or like, it's a. I have to like fight them on it, you know what I mean? And they don't like, they don't like that.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Dentists are like brainwashed into thinking and they are literally brainwashed because they get fed this crap. It's really 65 year old. I have. My daughter is in her third year of dental school and. And actually she made a decision to go to dental school during COVID And I always knew she'd be good at it because she, she is an incredible artist and she loves biology. Anything biological, she loves. So she loved blood. And so the first year of dental school, she's like, dad, you know, they started the fluoride garbage, you know, And I'm like, really? And. And she raised, she raised her hand and said, you know, doctor, whoever it was, you know, like, isn't it true that there's a Lot of science that's emerging on, you know, cognitive impairment in children from drinking fluoridated water, lower IQ in children. And then this, there's been peer reviewed studies here. This is not junk science. And literally her, even the other kids in the class are like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. And you know, and they were like jumping on her.
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Lauren Everts
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Michael Bostic
Speaking of conspiracy theorists, the conspiracy theorists have been more right as of late than wrong. Have you seen that meme? It's like the, you know, the conspiracy theorists have put some points on the board in the last couple of years. Just saying.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah, no, I was just asked by one of the New York City councilmen because he brought a bill up to. In New York to like. Because you know, what it does really drink? What they're putting in the water is a waste product. It's fluorosalic acid. They have to wear hazmat suits to dump it in the water. Do you realize weird. And it is. And it does nothing to reduce decay. Decay rates went down the same whether you dump this crap in the water or not. But you have very, very powerful lobbying group. It's. What is it? A byproduct, an industrial byproduct, you know? No, it's a waste product. It is a phosphate fertilizer industry. You know, can you say Monsanto? Aluminum manufacturing. Can you say Alcoa and uranium enrichment, which is dod, you know, that, that's. And it's a, you know, and they used to, they tried to put it in the ground. People don't realize that the whole campaign to put fluoride in the water was the result of EPA lawsuits against Alcoa in the 1930s. And then they found that. Whoa. When you introduced this in the, you know, when you introduce fluoride to teeth, it's so highly negatively charged that it blows out the hydroxy element, the. Oh, minus, and it makes floor appetite. What is floor appetite? Definitely more acid resistant. So they were like, oh, it's more acid resistant. Yeah, it's more acid resistant, but it reduces the tensile strength. It makes teeth more brittle. Teeth and bones. So we had an explosion of hip fracture rates in the 1980s, and we had, you know, osteoporosis studies linking with us fatal bone cancer in children. Osteosarcoma in male children between the ages of 7, 6 and 11. That was Harvard School of Public Health 2006. What else? Thyroid disruption. What else? Calcifying your pineal gland. Oh, that's just a little thing, you know, between your eyes there. It's often referred to as the third eye. Well, your pineal gland. What does that control? Melatonin production. Well, what does that do? Sleep. Why is sleep important? Hell, that's how we regenerate, you know, so this is the insanity of. Of this policy that it's time, you know, it's time for people to wake up and it's time for dentists to really kind of like snap out of it and say, wait a minute, wait a minute. You don't get cavities from a lack of fluoride. You get cavities from an imbalance in the oral microbiome, which is why I spent my whole life. You got that toothpaste upside down, by the way.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah, don't do it upside down. Tell us about the veneers.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
First of all, there are a lot of different porcelain. Okay, so what's the difference between a biologic aesthetic dentist, a biologic cosmetic dentist, and a conventional cosmetic? Conventional cosmetic dentist may have good hands, may do aesthetics and all that. In our office, we're going to look at you much more holistically. We're going to see a lot of times people that need veneers have had bonding and fillings and all this other stuff. And a lot of that material really needs to be cleaned out on the left. And it needs to be removed by the way we remove microplastics the way we would remove any other toxic material. We don't just drill it out where it goes all over and you're swallowing and all this stuff. We're going to use a porcelain that has. We're not going to use any aluminums or any metals because believe it or not, there's aluminum disilicate is a real restorative material. So we are going to use non BPA composite resins or BPA free resins. We're going to use porcelains that do not have any aluminum in them or any other material that, you know, they actually were putting lead in porcelain to make it reflect more.
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Michael Bostic
Why, as you're talking, why would all dentists notice it? A cost thing, more expensive material.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Like an awareness and a consciousness, I think people focused on. And listen, aesthetic dentistry is one of, you know, I love doing aesthetic dentistry. I mean, I was an art miner when I was in college. I was a neuroscience major and an art minor. So when I came out, I gravitated to cosmetic dentistry. And I was in the beginning of it, you know, the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry didn't even exist. And I was doing, you know, I was doing veneers in 1983.
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Lauren Everts
Wow.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Even the biggest guys in New York, the biggest, you know, restorative cosmetic guys, they didn't even. They weren't even. There was only one laboratory that I worked with, and it was in Kansas City, Missouri that it was the Chameleon Dental Laboratory. I'll never forget 1983, that was doing veneers. Then a company called Genma in California got into doing veneers. But, but remember, you know, it's great to do aesthetics. And I came up with the name rejuvenation dentistry because I wanted to put the wellness doc together with the beauty doc. And I said, you know, really, rejuvenation is not just looking younger, but it's, you know, living healthier and living longer. So it's really important to look biologically, not just mechanically at how we restore teeth.
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Lauren Everts
What is Ozempic teeth?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
It's, it's, it's a real thing, really, it's a real thing because, well, you know, these GLP drugs are amazing. You know, they can do some really, I mean, it really restores and levels out blood sugar because diabetes is to me the biggest issue, the most, one of the most inflammatory issues. And it's very connected to gum disease. So gum disease increases your chance of getting type 2 diabetes, right? And then type 2 diabetes makes inflammation in the mouth and bleeding gums, you know, terrible. And so you have this two way street where blood sugar really is a major, major problem. It's connected to, they're calling Alzheimer's, you know, type 3 diabetes. So really we have this problem with blood sugar. So the glp, you know, these peptides have really done, I think, a really amazing thing in helping people lose weight, get their blood sugar back to normal, help their cardiovascular system, you know, reverse their diabetes and all this stuff. But what they do is they slow gastric emptying and they slow the flow of bile. Now you need bile for vitamins, vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin K. By the way, vitamin D and K are in revitin, but when they reduce vitamin D, for example, and they also make you, your mouth drier. So your mouth gets drier, your teeth start to get more brittle and a lot of that is lower. Vitamin D. You need vitamin D and K for your teeth and bones. It's really important. So, you know, they're calling Ozempic teeth and they had dentists out there, oh, you got Ozempic teeth. You know, because they're seeing higher decay rates, gum recession and all that. And all of that is controllable, but you need to be aware of it.
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Lauren Everts
So what do people do if they're on ozempic and they don't want ozempic teeth?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
One, they need to make sure that they're hydrating much more than they used to. Okay. Number two, they need to increase their intake of protein. Number three, they need to watch their vitamin D levels. You know, that's why, you know, I created revitin and by the way, you know, was 15 to 20 years of research and, and I realized that we've got to get out of symptom driven health care. Oh, oral care. We got to get out of symptom driven oral care and really look at. At root causes. And a lot of. One of the things that drove me into developing revitin was I saw a study from Japan from the 1970s that showed that gums, you know, disease. Gums, periodontal disease. They found this one. These group of researchers found that, that gums were deficient in vitamin C and CoQ10. Those are the two big, biggest nutrients. CoQ10, you know, I know you're taking it, Michael.
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Michael Bostic
Well, that's what I was asking before we started the show, guys. I was. There's CoQ10 in the Vervitin and I take CoQ10 as a supplement. But not. I didn't. I wasn't doing it because of my teeth. I just heard it was good for.
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Lauren Everts
Well, you actually, if. If I wasn't alive, you would be using Colgate for your toothpaste for the last 10 years. But thanks to me, you've been using revitin.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah, I didn't even realize you were using revitin before we even knew each other.
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Lauren Everts
I was using your toothpaste before I met you, but I. It was the old packaging, which my.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Son, my son Grant has done an amazing job.
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Michael Bostic
You know, in the beginning it was only branding, right?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
No. You know, he said to me, dad, you have the best toothpaste. All my friends love it. It's the best. You know, you have the best toothpaste, but it's packaged like Swiss hemorrhoid cream. And I was like. And it was like white. You know, it had the blue. And I thought it was like, you know, prominent. He's like, that is. It just doesn't look like what you did. And this, you could tell this is something you could eat.
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Michael Bostic
So why do you want CoQ10 for your teeth?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
CoQ10 is the CO factor in the manufacture of ATP. And in English, ATP is the energy in the tank. So the more the metabolic need, like your heart beating all the time, your skin and your gums. So the more the metabolic need, and those are the three highest metabolic needs, Heart, gums, and skin. You need more CoQ10. And as you get older, your ability to make CoQ10 goes down. So we found that CoQ10 and vitamin C, which we knew, you know, sailors on ships got scurvy, which was really gross. But scurvy is, you know, this really disease gums and they found that they were deficient in Coq 10 on the ships. But actually recently I learned that Portuguese sailors, because of what they line their water tanks or whatever with, they were actually getting vitamin C from it. And so they didn't have any scurvy. So vitamin C. I mean if I could take any vitamin, if I could only keep one vitamin, I had to get rid of every vitamin in my medicine cabinet. The one vitamin I would keep is.
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Lauren Everts
Vitamin C. What's the brand that you like to take?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
The vitamin C? Yeah, I actually have a liposomal vitamin C that, that I use. There's a, there's a couple of good ones. But liposomal is a suspended form. You have higher absorption.
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Michael Bostic
Will you take the liposomal vitamin C from Symbiotica?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Symbiotic is a good one.
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Michael Bostic
I heard that it's hard to get the vitamin C from a non liposomal delivery system.
- [37:53]
Dr. Jerry Curatola
It's true. And, and I actually make my own. I have an optimal nutrition.
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Michael Bostic
Are you holding out on me or whatever?
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Lauren Everts
Why are most clean toothpaste still wrecking our mouth?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Because a lot of them are still symptoms. So they're free of dyes. When we say clean, right, we're taking out the artificial flavor which by the way the artificial flavors are horrendous. You know they still using saccharin and aspartame in the commercial toothpaste. And actually the sugar alcohols are another pet peeve of mine. Erythritol and xylitol which are, you know, everybody's like oh, you know, we use pretty birch bark for ours. And you know, the reality is is they all go through an industrialized process and it's a high value chemical and it's very disturbing to the microbiome. So it's really about the whole approach with revitin versus other clean toothpastes. We're focused on promoting or making peace with your microbes in your mouth. Because my research has shown and recently I have a big paper being published on something called smdc Sialo Microbial Dental Complex. And that's a very fancy word for saliva microbes. Teeth, how they work together. Your saliva is loaded with ionic minerals like phosphorus and calcium. Your microbial flora in your mouth. Your oral microbiome actually transports minerals from saliva for your teeth to remineralize constantly. And that's when the, when the oral microbiome is in balance. When your microbiome is out of balance, you're. You actually demineralize and then you get cavities. So it's really. The root cause of decay is not. You didn't have fluoride. It's not. You don't. You didn't use nano hydroxyapatite, which has got a whole host of other issues. You know, your teeth are not like porcelain tiles that need spackle. Your teeth are living, breathing organs that have a circulatory system, a lymphatic system, a neurologic system, a skeletal system. They actually, there is fluid exchange in the dentinal tubules. And there's amazing things that go on with your teeth. They're living, vital mini organs, so to speak. And, and so clean toothpaste is taking out dyes and minerals and all that, but it's not restoring balance to this essential ecology that keeps us alive.
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Lauren Everts
That makes total sense, what you're saying. So the probiotic, the prebiotic, the vitamins are restorative.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Correct.
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Lauren Everts
Tell us the truth about mouthwash. Let's break everyone's heart.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
I, I went viral on this. You know, I went into a supermarket, pulled a thing, and it says, kills 99,9% of germs in the mouth. And I said, you know, if we were really able to do that, we would unleash ecological Armageddon, okay? Because guess what, those microbes in your mouth, they're producing nitric oxide, okay? And nitric oxide is important for everything from good sex to good heart to your nervous system to your immune system signaling to all of that. Nitric oxide is one of the most essential compounds. And guess what? Your oral microbiome and nasal breathing, which, by the way, was why I love your mouth tape the most.
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Lauren Everts
You heard it here first. The best dentist in the world, the father of biodentistry, loves the mouth tape.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
I do.
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Lauren Everts
Okay. Why?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Because, well, it's comfortable.
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Lauren Everts
Okay.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
And. And it actually, you know, because a lot of them peel off.
- [41:38]
Lauren Everts
Yep.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
And a lot of them are not comfortable. And it does start to train you to do nasal breathing. The only thing I would say is make sure you don't have a deviated septum. Make sure that you can breathe through your nose, because there are people that can't breathe through their nose. They need an ent.
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Lauren Everts
Okay.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
But a lot of people breathe through their mouth. Just, you know, it's just a habit.
- [41:57]
Lauren Everts
Which is really bad for you.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
And it's really bad for you. It, it increases your risk of periodontal disease, tooth decay, all these kinds of things. But most importantly, when you nasal breathe, you are making nitric oxide. Here we have again, nitric Oxide.
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Michael Bostic
Let's talk about a reverse issue that, you know, a lot of people are mouth breathing. I think I fall in the camp of clenching my jaw. And I know you said stress lives in the jaw. For me, it's like I have a, like I can tell sometimes I wake up and I'm like, man, I must have been clenching last night. And I wear the mouth guard, right. So that I like to guard the teeth. But do you agree with stress living in the jaw?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's one of the first places it manifests. And, and you know, I always, you know, I always look for the signs of that because it's, it's very dysregulating to your vagal nerve regulation. So you have, you have a vagal nerve that goes from your brain stem literally to your colon. So like from the brain to the drain, you have this vagal nerve. And actually my new book, which is the coherence cure with Dr. Cure Atolla, it's Beyond the Mouth Body Connection. So the Mouth Body Connection was the first book and now I've been working on this whole concept of coherence because I think your mouth, the bridge of coherence, the most important center of coherence is your mouth. And if you're clenching, you have dysregulation of your vagal nerve. You have all kinds of inflammatory signals that are, that are being given and, and it's, it, it and those inflammatory signals affect mental, you know, and, and physical.
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Michael Bostic
When you were saying the vagus nerve, like, you know, one of the things that I have to work on and be mindful is like my HRV score. Yes. And I have to do things like. Lauren, what's that? The shift wave. You just got that like I, I.
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Lauren Everts
And I don't know how you haven't.
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Michael Bostic
Tried that, this Apollo neuro thing, but it helps, need it for the vagus nerve. And I imagine it's connected to my.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Jaw clencher vagal energy flow, you know. So the vagus nerve is not just biologic. Right. It's a real big nerve that goes, you know, from the, from the brain stem to two thirds of your colon. And, and, and the, what we have found in research is that the bridge of coherence for vagal regulation is the mouth and the heart. It's like right from the, what they call the energy center called the throat chakra to the heart chakra. So energetically, throat chakra to heart chakra. That's the bridge of coherence for alignment and regulation.
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Michael Bostic
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Lauren Everts
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Michael Bostic
So what do you do with patients that clench their jaw and they want.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
To stop a lot of things. So first of all, we want to get to root cause, because if you have an airway issue, so the first thing I would do if somebody's clenching is, do you have an airway issue? Because what happens is people start to clench at night and they, they clench at night. Because when the brain, when you have an apnea episode, your blood oxygen levels go down, the brain goes crazy, and you clench or gnaw. And so we find a lot, you fix the airway, the clenching and the grinding actually goes well, you saw my issue.
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Michael Bostic
I got, I got my nose smashed, but you saw my. So I got to get that fixed. I got to come.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Exactly.
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Michael Bostic
But that could be an issue with me.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Right, so airway could be an issue for you, Michael. The other thing is I would look at ways that you can reregulate. And so, you know, we look at. This is an interesting. This is very, very important. And I'm actually expounding on this in the book too. But actually we regulate and heal on five different levels microbially. And we know about dysbiosis and what all that does energetically. Right. Energy flow and, and so we look at meridian flow and things like that. We regulate on a biochemical level and that's hormone, hormone regulation and all that. We regulate psycho emotionally. Some people, you know, they got stuck psycho emotionally. They get stinking thinking. They live in a state of fear and anxiety. And that's unfortunately the environment we're in right now. Really, you know, it makes us incoherent, you know, and, and doesn't restore coherence. You just turn on the news and, you know, we have, we have incoherence in our, you know, in our climate, incoherence in our, you know, economy, politics, anywhere you want to look, there's a lack of coherence.
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Lauren Everts
The shift wave chair you should get for your office, it's absolutely life changing. It vibrates and like you wear a little thing on your finger and it measures.
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Michael Bostic
It's really amazing sound to you too. So it might be similar to what.
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Lauren Everts
What are the scary truths about X rays?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Well, X rays are cumulative. Okay, so we, you know, that's. That we know. And what's interesting is I have A good friend who's major nutritional product manufacturer, and he's working on products that eliminate ionizing radiation from the body. Fortunately, a lot of new X rays are digital. But I. And there's. See, there are tools that can be used in dentistry to minimize patient exposure to dental X rays, because again, the first thing I said was, it's cumulative. So if, you know, every time you go to dentist, like, every. Every six months you go to dentist, or some people go three months, it's like, every six months you need X rays, you need X rays, you need X rays. It's like, you know, what. Wait a minute. You know, there's ways. What are you taking the X rays for? Well, we want to measure bone levels. We want to check for decay between the teeth interproximally. Well, we have trans illumination for that, and we have other methods of measuring periodontal pockets and bone levels and things like that where it's not necessary every six months. And, you know, especially on kids, you know, I find it really. You know, we can use other ways of other diagnostic tools that we have in the box right now other than using, you know, standard dental X rays. Every time a patient goes to the.
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Michael Bostic
It always scares me when they're like, there's no problem. And then they.
- [54:53]
Dr. Jerry Curatola
Find. And they run out of the room. They run out of room.
- [54:57]
Lauren Everts
Gen Z has the biggest problem with oral inflammation.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Why?
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Lauren Everts
I don't know. You tell me.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
First of all, that's a real stat.
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Lauren Everts
Oh, yeah, they're grinding their teeth because they're on their phone too much.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
They are cyborgs.
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Lauren Everts
What that mean?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
They are half machine and half. I have a social media guy, you know, they're all in their 20s. If they're really good, they're in their 20s, you know, early 20s. And, you know, he said to me, I'm a cyborg. I was like, you know, Michael, you have to get off the phone. You know, Michael, I'm going to take the phone away just for a little bit, you know, because he's. You know, we would. We would be shooting content. And the gen zers, they are so connected and they're so impatient with someone like me. Like, here I am. I'm a baby boomer, okay? So I'm literally a dinosaur. And like, literally. And they. And I would hold the phone and go, I'll find it. And he's like, Dr. Jerry, Dr. Jerry, can I take. Can I take that? Because he was like, he would. And then he would literally take the phone, and I think he would just look at it and like it would come up, you know what I was.
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Lauren Everts
So why do they have the most. The biggest problem with oral inflammation?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
There are so their, their nervous system is so overstimulated and they are so. I mean if you get an emfs and all that other crap, the reality is is that they are very tech. All of that is very inflammatory. Besides the fact that it's diet. What's interesting is I find that diet and nutrition of course are a cornerstone, you know, of oral health. Right. Alkalizing, anti inflammatory antioxidant rich. That's what I always talk about with diets. And I don't get into oh yeah, keto and it's a pescatorian, you know, pescatarian and all this other stuff. It's like alkalizing, anti inflammatory antioxidant rich. You know, the second thing is exercise. So exercise. What does exercise do? Exercise improves immune system competence, circulatory function. You know, you're, you're moving lymph. You are actually producing short chain fatty acids. Short chain fatty acids are very anti inflammatory. So it helps to reduce inflammation and you need that. So exercise. Important third thing. Stress management. You really want to control stress. And I find that gen zers, they're super, super stressed. They're way.
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Michael Bostic
Well, imagine that every time you turn something on, it's just telling you how bad everything is.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Right.
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Michael Bostic
It's interesting when I talk to people because we and I think similar. There was always, you know, bad news in the world. But you didn't grow up constantly being bombarded with how terrible things were. You grew up with a lot of hope, inspiration.
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Lauren Everts
It's the person who. It's the person who's using it. Responsibility to take autonomy over it.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, but the problem is Lauren and.
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Lauren Everts
Not turn it on. You have to have boundaries around.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, but I'm empathetic to this.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
The world's gonna keep moving boundaries. Yes, I totally agree with that. I think that a lot of them are gonna have some very serious health problems.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Because of this inability to manage what is a stress that they're not even aware of.
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Michael Bostic
Well, because think about this. When we grew up, there was like, you know, 30 channels that you would watch. And the majority of like there were some the news, some bad things, but the majority of what's good, like happy programming, good movies, good stories, you know, even like, even if action movies were crazy. But the problem is now the, the main channel is the phone. And these companies have learned that fear sells and anxiety keeps you hooked.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Oh yeah.
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Michael Bostic
And so the majority of programming that you're turning on, the news that you're watching on Social is bad, scary, negative news all the time. And so, yeah, you can be intentional, but, like, we grew up understanding that there were those kind of options. If you grew up in a time was like, only shit all the time. It's hard to escape.
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Lauren Everts
I have empathy. I just.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
No, I do too. I do too.
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Michael Bostic
And the problem is that it's not. It's not necessarily true. It's just. That's the stuff that people realize they can showcase to you to get your attention.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think a lot of them. And, you know, I have, you know, they work with me and, you know, and they work, you know, in my practice and all. And they're. And. And they're wonderful in. In many ways. I find that they really have an extraordinary. Some extraordinary gifts. And then there's. There's a lot of things that are. Are very concerning for me, not just for their oral health, but for their systemic health and wellness and their mental health and wellness.
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Lauren Everts
Wow. We covered a lot. Everyone should go get your toothpaste. I've been using your toothpaste forever. My kids use it, My dad uses it. My stepmom uses it. My whole family's on it. I personally like it because of the prebiotics in it. I like it because of the vitamins. I put it on my gums. I was healing the other day, and I put it on my gums. It's amazing. I personally like the citrus flavor. That is my favorite. That's my ride or die.
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Michael Bostic
I like the mint, though, because it makes me feel like I'm doing, like, I, like, maybe something nostalgic. Makes me feel like. Like I'm getting the job done.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah. You know, what's interesting is that everyone was addicted to men in oral care, and everybody doesn't understand, like, the reason why there were these really strong peppermint oils thrown into toothpaste is it covered up everything that was bitter in the soap. Right. Because what was toothpaste? Toothpaste was developed by soap makers 100 years ago and. And 150 years ago. And so basically, you know, you had soap for your clothes, so for your hands, soap for your hair, so, you know, so your skin. And then you needed soap, soap for your mouth. So it was really detergent origin. And then it was all about putting chemicals in bug killers and all that. So really what I wanted to do is take it and turn it into a nutritional product. And what I didn't realize When I first was developing this and it was one of my mentors, Dr. Stephen Moss, who was, he's an MD, DDS, PhD, and, and he had a company called Health Education Enterprises and he would be given money by the majors to kind of do research that would say why something worked. Like, like if Colgate was coming and they wanted to study how to kill plaque because that's what they, their objective was. They thought it was a good thing. Right. You put pesticide in toothpaste. The triclosan was a non biodegradable pesticide. The principal ingredient, ingredient in the leading to leading toothpaste for 20 years was triclosan.
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Lauren Everts
I had too much of that in my body.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
I had to do like a detox.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah. I mean, triclosan is a nasty non biodegradable chemical. But why do they put it in there? Well, they found. And maybe if we use a little bit, you know, it'll kill plaque. Little did they know that they were, you know, you need healthy plaque, keeps you alive, you know. So he was, he said, you know, your product might save the world. And I laughed. And he said, no, I'm serious. He goes, because if these bastards, you know, continue to put this stuff, you know what we know, you know, his research showed that you don't want to kill plaque. You really want to make your mouth, you want to restore health, you want to make peace with your microbes.
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Lauren Everts
And the problem with brushing your teeth is it's a daily habit that you're doing twice, sometimes three times a day. So you have to examine these daily habits, I think, and see what you're putting in your mouth. Health, right?
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Absolutely.
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Lauren Everts
You gave us code skinny for 15 off. You can go to revitin.com that's R E V I T I N dot com. Use code skinny. Start with the citrus. Just trust me and get them both.
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Michael Bostic
Get the mint.
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Lauren Everts
If you want to do a consultation with Dr. Jerry, tell us what you are offering the audience.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Well, we, I do virtual consults. The easiest way to kind of be introduced. And we're going to give 20% off a virtual consult.
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Lauren Everts
Well, how do they book.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
They can go to. Right to our website, Rejuve Health.
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Lauren Everts
Okay, so.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Or they could follow. Follow me on Instagram. Yeah, follow me on Instagram Dr. Jerry Curitola in the link tree. There's a way you can book a virtual consult. We are going to give a discount for Skinny Confidential. Skinny is the code for the revit and Skinny is the code for, for the consults the consoles people love, they really gives them a lot of information and it helps guide them. And if they choose to come visit us in our offices, we're more than happy to see them. Otherwise, we will help guide them to someone that could help them in their area.
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Michael Bostic
What I will say the problem with seeing you is that once you see you, you don't want to go anywhere else because it's comprehensive. And also it makes you think about some of the things that you're. Listen, not to diminish anyone, but when you start to see how comprehensive it is, the things that you do and the way you do it. Like even when you, you helped me with my, one of my, my veneers in the back and it was because it broke even with the ozone and cleaning it up and getting it all organized, I was like, well, I'd never done that before.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Yeah. You know, there are protocols that I've created over 40 years that, that have really been effective and that, you know, and I always say, you know, good dentistry can be expensive, but not as expensive as bad dentistry. And I see people going through problems and issues and the same problem over and over. So I really, you know, would, would recommend a virtual consult or an in person meeting.
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Michael Bostic
Next time I see you. We're going to fix my airway.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Absolutely.
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Lauren Everts
Dr. Jerry, I will see you next time I'm in New York. And thank you for coming on the show.
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Dr. Jerry Curatola
Thank you for having me. It's great to see you.
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Lauren Everts
Thank you.