Heather Graham On Hollywood's Hidden Truths, Reclaiming Your Power, & Building A Life On Your Terms

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Bossticks – Heather Graham On Hollywood's Hidden Truths, Reclaiming Your Power, & Building A Life On Your Terms

Date: March 26, 2026
Hosts: Lauryn Bosstick and Michael Bosstick
Guest: Heather Graham (Actress, Writer, Director)

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Lauryn and Michael Bosstick welcome actress, writer, and director Heather Graham to discuss her journey through Hollywood, confronting its entrenched sexism, and her evolution into a multi-hyphenate creative with a focus on female empowerment. Heather shares deeply personal stories about her upbringing, career highs and lows, reclaiming her own narrative, and the spirituality and self-care practices that help her build a life on her own terms. The conversation explores not just fame and the entertainment industry, but the importance of self-love, healing trauma, and forging unconventional paths.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Bossticks' Teenage Connection to Heather's Films (00:42–02:28)

• Lauryn and Michael credit Austin Powers—starring Heather Graham—as a pivotal movie in their adolescent relationship, cluing in Heather to their childhood scrapbook filled with ticket stubs.
• Heather quips: "I'm glad I inspired the finger banging." (02:16)
• The trio immediately strike an informal, humorous, and confessional tone.

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2. Heather Graham’s Upbringing & Early Career (02:29–06:23)

• Heather details growing up in a conservative, religious family. Her father was strict, while her mother urged her to pursue artistic passions:

  “She [mom] actually said to me, like, ‘Don’t get married and have kids. Pursue your dreams as an artist.’” (03:34)

• Childhood shyness and feeling nerdy; acting in school plays offered a “way to try to be cool”.
• Her big break came at 17 with License to Drive—she reminisces about the surreal feeling of driving onto the 20th Century Fox lot.
• Early career was marked by “hills and valleys”—no straight shot to stardom.

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3. Breaking Through, Stereotypes, & Hollywood Sexism (06:23–10:31)

• Boogie Nights, Swingers, and Austin Powers brought fame, but also public misperceptions:

  “I think people do [see me as a wild party girl]. I don’t think people truly know how nerdy I am, but that’s fine. I like to pretend…” (07:19)

• Much discussion about Hollywood’s sexist double standards, particularly around roles involving nudity:

  “As an actress…to get a job, a lot of times you would have to, like, take this...They’d be like, ‘If you're not willing to do it, you can’t do this movie.’” (09:24)

• Heather celebrates owning her sexuality onscreen (“I actually have no judgment on sexuality in movies”), yet critiques the hypocrisy of an industry authored by men—then women judged for “playing those parts.” (09:37)

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4. The Cultural Shift in Fame & Media (10:31–13:16)

• The hosts and Heather lament the splintering of pop culture:

  “Now there’s so much content, everyone’s watching all their special niche kind of things.” (11:28)

• Heather recommends the show Heated Rivalry, delighting in representation and emotional storytelling: “Hot gay guys are having sex with each other and falling in love.” (12:01)
• Shares pride in being a voting member of the Academy and donates iconic Boogie Nights roller skates to its museum.

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5. Navigating Challenging Roles & Industry Changes (14:17–18:13)

• Discusses the stress and awkwardness of performing nude/sex scenes—“It is nerve wracking. It’s slightly terrifying…” (14:36)
• Recalls the pressures of being sexualized and contrasts her true self with her on-screen persona (“More Bridget Jones than a siren”).
• Talks about playing darker roles, e.g., Law and Order: True Crime, Menendez Murders, and the disturbing nature of real-world news:

  “The news is as disturbing as the Menendez brothers...read about the Epstein files…” (17:22)

• Critiques lack of legal accountability in high-profile abuse cases:

  “There’s only one person that’s gone to jail and it’s a woman…Ghislaine…” (18:04)

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6. Reclaiming Power & Spirituality (18:29–21:48)

• On empowerment:

  “I think it’s just feeling good about yourself, loving yourself and not letting other people take that away from you, basically.” (18:29)

• Shares that Transcendental Meditation, yoga, and especially Al-Anon have helped her heal from codependent patterns:

  “It’s about just being the best version of yourself, loving yourself first and giving from the overflow…” (19:08)

• Cranial sacral therapy—described as trauma release stored in the body’s fascia—is a shared obsession between the hosts and Heather:

  “Talk therapy doesn’t get…If you’ve had past trauma, it doesn’t heal it the same way as somatic therapy can.” (21:14)

• The ongoing work of emotional unwinding and confronting buried personal memories.

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7. Routines, Wellness, & Self-Care (31:48–33:32)

• Heather’s daily essentials:
  • Lots of sleep
  • Working out (yoga, Pilates, some weights)
  • Healthy eating/cooking for friends.
• Considers starting a cooking show due to friends’ encouragement.
• Yoga is both her top exercise and a spiritual/composure practice:

  “I get to a spiritual place in yoga…when it gets hot and, like, you’re sweating…you just feel like you’re, like, reborn.” (33:20)

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8. Creative Direction—Writing, Producing, & Female Storytelling (33:32–41:12)

• Increasing focus on development: writing, optioning books/scripts, directing (inspired by Reese Witherspoon and Margot Robbie’s companies).

  “My goal…is just to tell…interesting stories with female protagonists.” (37:21)

• Frustration at enduring “patriarchal” economics in greenlighting and pay:

  “The men are paid more because…each actor has a value and the men are just worth way more. And so it’s a lot easier to get a movie greenlit if you’re a man.” (37:56)

• Discusses writing her own revenge script inspired by the Jeffrey Epstein scandal—“Nobody’s getting any consequences. I’m writing this…” (40:39)

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9. Life, Relationships, & Rejecting Expectations (47:10–52:56)

• Heather speaks on resisting the “traditional script” (marriage, kids):

  “I think more…the culture’s more accepting of it now…There’s a lot of people that are terrible parents…and better not to do it if you don’t think you could.” (49:16)

• Shares advice from her therapist:

  “If you don’t have kids, then life will bring you people to nurture.” (49:48)

• Recognizes ongoing double standards—“I don’t think people are going, ‘Well, you’re a guy, why don’t you have kids?’ Like, what’s wrong with you?” (50:13)
• The Bossticks reflect on the importance of truly liking one’s partner over just loving them.

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10. Personal Growth & Creating on Her Own Terms (53:05–56:10)

• Writing process: sets aside dedicated blocks (“four hours today and just write…”) and finds creative energy in both discipline and collaboration.
• Excitement for current and upcoming projects:
  • They Will Kill Youl premiering at SXSW—“If you mix Kill Bill with, like, Get Out maybe and Rosemary’s Baby…It’s a wild story.” (54:13)
  • Upcoming horror and comedy films, a TV show, and development projects behind the camera.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Owning Her Narrative:

  “I fooled them into believing I was this, like, sexy movie star. And it’s kind of like a fake persona almost.” (07:19)

• Hollywood Double Standard:

  “The system is kind of run by men, and then the women get judged for playing those parts...then they’re criticized. Even though, like, men are creating this whole world and then criticizing the women.” (09:37)

• Healing as Empowerment:

  “It’s about loving yourself first and giving from the overflow…” (19:08)

• On Not Conforming:

  “I think it’s great to do [parenthood] if you have this love in your heart...But I don’t think everyone should feel, like, obligated.” (49:16)

• On Female-Driven Stories:

  “I just like seeing stories where a woman...It’s from a female point of view.” (34:29)

• The Power of the Past:

  “You know, these memories you’re trying to bury, they’re there. You have to deal with it.” (30:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Heather’s Early Influences & Family ............ (02:29–03:49)
• Breaking into Acting & Early Rejections ....... (03:57–06:23)
• Hollywood Sexism & Stereotypes ................ (08:22–10:31)
• Pop Culture, Representation & The Academy ..... (11:01–13:16)
• On-screen Nudity/Intimacy Scenes .............. (14:17–14:49)
• Trauma, Healing & Somatic Therapy ............. (19:08–21:48, 28:27–31:16)
• Routine, Wellness, Self-Care .................. (31:48–33:32)
• Writing/Directing Female-centered Stories ...... (33:32–41:12)
• Rejecting The Traditional Script .............. (47:10–52:56)
• Upcoming Projects & New Direction ............. (54:13–56:10)

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Overall Tone

Genuine, unfiltered, and often humorous. Heather and the hosts have an ease and warmth that allows for honest revelations, deep observations on the entertainment industry, and discussions about healing, empowerment, and designing a life that doesn’t fit any mold.

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For Listeners: What You'll Take Away

• A rare, honest look at Hollywood’s inner workings from a woman who’s succeeded on her own creative terms.
• The value Heather places on spirituality, healing, and authentic relationships.
• Encouragement to chart your own path—whether that’s in career, relationships, or personal growth.
• The inspiration to reclaim power through self-love, artistic courage, and female camaraderie.

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Recommended for anyone interested in the intersection of pop culture, personal evolution, and the candid truths behind Hollywood’s glamour.

Transcript

[Lauren Bostic]

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostic. Together, they are the Bostics. Hello everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Bostics. Today we sit down with Heather Graham, who's a multi hyphenate actress, writer and director who first broke out in Drugstore Cowboy, earning an Independent Spirit Award nomination before delivering iconic performances in Boogie Nights, Austin Powers, the Spy who Shagged Me and the Hangover. And Lauren and I really enjoy meeting Heather. We grew up watching her. We grew up being a fan of many of her movies. We talk about a lot in this episode. We talk about navigating Hollywood, owning your narrative, building a life on your own terms, and how you can reclaim your power and live a life that works for you. With that Heather Graham. Welcome to the Bostics.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay, so Heather, you kind of got my husband and I together.

[Heather Graham]

Oh my God. Okay. Because you guys are the most beautiful couple. You guys are both the most gorgeous looking people together. I mean, wow.

[Michael Bostic]

If we had told our 12 year old son that Heather Graham was gonna say that about us, we would have died.

[Lauren Bostic]

Because. Okay, so we met when we were kids. The audience gets really annoyed at this story at this point.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. Sorry guys, but we have to tell this story.

[Lauren Bostic]

We watched and I think we went to the movies and we watched Austin Powers.

[Heather Graham]

No way. When you were 12?

[Michael Bostic]

20 times. 20 times. The reason I know this is cause I made a scrapbook of all our movie tickets and one whole page is your movie. So what we would do is we would together.

[Heather Graham]

You went 20 times.

[Michael Bostic]

We would sneak in to hook up. So he was like fingerprint when you were 12?

[Heather Graham]

What?

[Michael Bostic]

Oh my God, you guys really get

[Heather Graham]

into it on this. Wait, wait, how old were you? I know. And he was doing that when you were.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh God, I hope your dad's not listening to this. Turn it off, Brad. Actually, her dad did it.

[Michael Bostic]

We had not been together that long though. We got back together way later. But we started in Austin Powers.

[Heather Graham]

Oh my God. Are you kidding?

[Lauren Bostic]

And that was at the time like, that was like the. That was like one of the biggest movies of the year and of the time.

[Heather Graham]

It was cool. Yeah, it was. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

I used to call him Mini Me.

[Lauren Bostic]

Okay, well, here's the thing.

[Michael Bostic]

He's really short.

[Lauren Bostic]

I had not fully hit puberty yet. I was 12. I was a 12 year old boy. Girls develop faster.

[Heather Graham]

Wait, it's so romantic. Can I do you have. I want to see pictures of you guys at 2. Pictures.

[Michael Bostic]

You gotta show a pizza, you gotta show a picture at the movie. Probably watching your movie.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Welcome to the show.

[Heather Graham]

I'm glad I inspired the finger banging.

[Michael Bostic]

I mean, listen, Michael had one eye

[Heather Graham]

on the screen and one eye. No, no, no, I'm joking.

[Lauren Bostic]

It was not hard for me to look at Heather. I'm going to be honest.

[Heather Graham]

No, no, no, no.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay. So I would like to go back and hear about your childhood pre all of this. What were you like when you were a little girl?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I grew up. I had a conservative religious family, especially my father. I mean, I was very into like playing dress ups and pretending to be characters and making up stories. I love movies and. And then when we moved when I was nine from. We lived in Virginia and then we moved to California, I became kind of shy. Cause it was like around puberty ish time. I was nine, starting to go through puberty. And then I became very shy and awkward and nerdy and I used to act in school plays and that was my way to try to be cool, basically.

[Michael Bostic]

So what did your parents do to get you more in the spotlight and get you out there? Was there something that they did?

[Heather Graham]

Well, they were very different. My father was extremely religious. He was pretty much like, if you have premarital sex, you're going straight to hell. My mother was like kind of a bit of a. I think she felt she didn't really get to live out her artistic dreams. So she was like, you should just be an artist. And she actually said to me like, don't get married and have kids.

[Michael Bostic]

She told you that?

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, she was like, pursue your dreams as an artist.

[Michael Bostic]

I like the honesty. Listen, kids aren't for everyone. I don't understand. It's not like a one size fits all, so I understand that.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah. It's kind of interesting when your mom tells you that though. You're like, okay, so you're not really happy? No.

[Michael Bostic]

Did you feel like that?

[Heather Graham]

I mean, that's my projection. I don't know if that's true, but yes. That didn't seem like the happiest relationship to me.

[Michael Bostic]

So did that help get you out of your shyness or.

[Heather Graham]

No, I still. Well, when I was in high school, I was very nerdy. I had to wear neck gear, you know, for a certain point. But anyway, then I played in Damn Yankees and I played like the devil's whore.

[Michael Bostic]

Oh, no.

[Heather Graham]

I played like Taylor's hook.

[Lauren Bostic]

What did your highly religious father think of this?

[Heather Graham]

Oh, he was like, what?

[Michael Bostic]

You know, like.

[Heather Graham]

But it was like the school play, you know, you know, whatever it's about and someone's selling Their soul to the devil to become, like, a good baseball player, you know, so.

[Michael Bostic]

So when you played that, was that, like, a breakthrough for you?

[Heather Graham]

It made me feel, like, more confident. Cause at school, I was kind of awkward. I had weird haircut. I had basically, like a mullet, you know, where it's, like, kind of like feathered, but then, like, pieces would curl around at the bottom.

[Michael Bostic]

You had the last laugh.

[Heather Graham]

I look like a Mormon in my pictures. People say, like, I dressed like I was, like, an older woman that was very conservative.

[Michael Bostic]

I think that your high school or your junior high is probably like, ugh, when they see you now.

[Heather Graham]

But then I got a job in a movie, License to Drive. And a style, like a movie stylist helped me, you know, find some clothes for the movies. So then I kind of got to keep some of them. And then I felt cool.

[Michael Bostic]

Was that your first big break?

[Heather Graham]

It was, yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

And what was that like?

[Heather Graham]

It was amazing. I was 17. I was driving onto the 20th Century Fox lot. And, you know, when you drive onto a lot and you're just. No one in my family was in the business. It's just amazing that they just let you through the gate and you just drive onto, like, 20th Century Fox lot. It was incredible.

[Lauren Bostic]

And how did they find you to begin with? Were you auditioning or.

[Heather Graham]

I auditioned. Yeah. Yeah. I used to drive and go on all my auditions.

[Michael Bostic]

After you have your big break, what is the momentum like for you? Was it quick? Was it a slow burn? What was it like?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I feel like it's a lot of, like, hills and valleys. Like, you have a moment where you're like, oh, my God, this is amazing. And now, you know, you're getting offered things or it's easier, and then suddenly, like, nothing happens, and then suddenly something else happens, and then you get more opportunities, and then it's slow. It goes in waves, probably.

[Michael Bostic]

So what was the next thing that you did after your first big break?

[Heather Graham]

Well, after License to Drive, I did drugs for Cowboy, which was also, like, a really cool movie that got a lot of attention. And then. Yeah, and then I kind of. I worked, but it wasn't as kind of successful, I guess, or seen until I started to do, like, Swingers and Boogie Nights and, like, Austin Powers. And then there was that moment.

[Michael Bostic]

What happens when you do Swingers and Boogie Nights? What is the after effect of those movies?

[Heather Graham]

I bought a house.

[Michael Bostic]

Are you out partying? Are you out clubbing? Are you at home?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I was always, like, a very nerdy, responsible kid who was just like, I need to work, you know, I mean, I did, you know, drink a little bit. I was never doing a lot of drugs. I mean, I occasionally, like, smoke pot or whatever, but I had a moment in my early 30s where I was like, I was never wild, you know, like, maybe I should try to be. Because at that time, people were going to raves. I was like, I should try to take ecstasy and go to a rave, but I'm just not a party girl.

[Michael Bostic]

You were at home.

[Heather Graham]

I was, like, hung out with friends, and I just wanted to work, really. I'm like a little worker, worker bee.

[Lauren Bostic]

After you do Boogie Nights and you say you're not a party girl, are people inviting you and trying to get you to party a lot more? I imagine so, yeah.

[Heather Graham]

I remember actually Drew Barrymore used to have amazing parties at her house and saying that I'm not a party girl. I did sometimes go to parties, you know, but I wasn't like, going out every night, or it would be, like, a special, like, fun thing. And then there was a time where I tried out to go to clubs more, but I just. I'm not.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, I guess what I'm asking is, do. When, after doing the role, do people perceive you as, like, a wild party girl?

[Heather Graham]

I think they do, yes. I don't think people truly know how nerdy I am, but that's fine. I like to pretend because when I was in high school, I was kind of this nerdy girl, and I was doing well in school, and everyone thought, like, oh, you're not the pretty one. There's all these other women that are, like, pretty girls that were prettier. But then when I started getting attention, I felt like I fooled them into believing I was this, like, sexy movie star. And it's kind of like a fake Persona almost.

[Michael Bostic]

There's an actress that just wrote a book about this. I'm Gonna Fly.

[Heather Graham]

I think Pamela Anderson has talked about this, where she puts on her, like, Persona kind of totally.

[Michael Bostic]

She's similar. She, like, led with her sexuality, but, like, her real identity was wanting to be at home and cook and.

[Heather Graham]

No, my real identity. I felt like I was more like Bridget Jones, but I wasn't getting cast as that. Those characters, you know, I was getting cast as, like, more of, like, a sexy whatever. No, I always felt like more. I related to, like, the Bridget Jones character.

[Michael Bostic]

Her name's Mina Suvari. Yes.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Yes. I just finished her book, and she talks about how she kept being cast as, like, this beautiful siren, but in reality, that's not how she felt. I mean, remember American Beauty?

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Like, she was like.

[Heather Graham]

But I mean, also the business. I mean, whatever. It's pretty sexist, you know, so it's mostly. And now maybe, hopefully it's getting better. There's more female storytellers, but it's mostly male storytellers. So Mina Savari is being told by a man's story. You know what I mean? It's. There's so many more stories being told by men.

[Michael Bostic]

Like, it's the man's projection of what sexuality is onto the actress.

[Heather Graham]

Right.

[Michael Bostic]

How is Hollywood different back then when you did Swingers and Boogie Nights to now?

[Heather Graham]

I mean, look, it's still sexist, but it was way more sexist. Like, I've listened to other episodes of your guys show, but yeah, they were really harsh on women, I think, in a lot of ways, like, men could do anything, but a woman would be under this, like, microfying, you know, magnifying glass over, like, she's too sexy. She's not sexy enough. It was like, a lot of pressure. And even as an actress, because, you know, sometimes you get offered jobs and they'd be like, there's nudity or there's not nudity. It's like. It's weird because to get a job, a lot of times you would have to, like, take this, you know, and

[Lauren Bostic]

you'd have to do the nude scenes in order to get it. Or they wouldn't.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, they'd be like, if you're not willing to do it, you can't do this movie. And then people be like, well, why did you do this nudity? And you're like, well, that's the fricking jobs that are out there. You know what I mean? And look, I'm very proud of being in Boogie Nights. Like, I feel so proud of that.

[Lauren Bostic]

It is an iconic movie.

[Heather Graham]

It's an iconic movie. And I actually have no judgment on sexuality in movies. I think it's awesome. But I do feel like, you know, the system is kind of run by men, and then the women get judged for playing those parts that are written by men and directed by men and then, like, released by men, and then they're criticized. Even though, like, men are creating this whole world and then criticizing the women.

[Lauren Bostic]

Because to your point, if you could have said no to some of those roles, but then you don't get the roles and. And that's how the movie's written anyway. And so it's like, if you want to further your career, you're kind of.

[Heather Graham]

And I don't know if it's like, you know, how I look or my type. But, yeah, it's funny how women get penalized for, like, the roles that we're allowed to play. You know what I mean? It's like, I feel it's a little

[Michael Bostic]

more celebrated now, at least.

[Heather Graham]

No, it is. And that is a little bit. It's great. Like, being a sexual woman is now, like, I was, you know, the two dope queens. I remember I was watching all their live shows. And, like, I feel like younger women are more like, celebrating their sexuality, which is amazing.

[Michael Bostic]

Thank God.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

So when Austin Powers comes out, is that a different level of fame?

[Heather Graham]

It was. Yeah. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

What was that like?

[Heather Graham]

I mean, it was a mixture of awesome and also a little bit like, what do I. You know, it's hard when it's.

[Michael Bostic]

You.

[Heather Graham]

You can't really see it objectively. But, yeah, I'm grateful. I'm grateful. I was in a movie that a lot of people watched. I'm glad that you guys watched it.

[Michael Bostic]

I, like, in the theater, you know, recite all the different things from that movie. It's like, it's. I mean, it's talking like.

[Lauren Bostic]

You know, there's this article that just came out recently, and it said back then, in the 90s, early 2000s, 80s, whatever, everybody would kind of, like, have the same cultural moments where something like Austin Powers would come out and you'd all watch it.

[Heather Graham]

I was thinking that now there's so much content that everyone is not all watching the same.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, like, we probably all watch something different this week.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

So the problem is you don't. Like, back then, when that came out, especially for the younger people. Yeah, that was the only thing people were. I mean, there's a few, but it

[Heather Graham]

was like there were less things to watch. So it was like, okay, five movies came out. People are watching those. There's, like, not that many TV stations. So everyone's watching the same shows now. There's so much content. Everyone's watching all their special niche kind of things.

[Lauren Bostic]

And it's weird because stuff comes out all the time now that people are talking about. And I feel so out of the loop because there's, like, really popular things that I have no clue about.

[Heather Graham]

Me, too.

[Lauren Bostic]

And the team makes me feel like I'm this ancient dinosaur.

[Michael Bostic]

But I'm like, well, like, heated rivalry.

[Heather Graham]

Oh, my God. I'm obsessed with heated rivalry.

[Michael Bostic]

I've seen it. Yet you watch it.

[Heather Graham]

Okay, well, look, a lot of straight guys are afraid to watch it, but

[Lauren Bostic]

I don't even know what it is.

[Michael Bostic]

What is it?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Explain what it is.

[Heather Graham]

Okay, you guys have to go home immediately and watch. Okay. One of my best friends, she's a TV writer, and she always tells me which TV shows to watch. Her name is Deb Fisher, and she. She did Ginny in Georgia. But anyway, it's about these two hockey players who are, like, the. Both the best hockey players in the. In their leagues. And they. They're. They're always fighting each other, and they're the best, but then they fall in love with each other, and they have, like, hot sex scenes, and it's about how they're afraid to, like, be, you know, together because they're gay.

[Michael Bostic]

Is it a reality show or real?

[Heather Graham]

It is a fictional story based on a book.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay.

[Heather Graham]

And it's so good. Oh, my God, I started crying. Episode five. I'm so excited.

[Lauren Bostic]

But, Lauren, if I told you that I've been watching Fallout and that it's based on a really popular video game, people are like, what? But it's also very. Walt Goggins is the leader.

[Heather Graham]

That's cool.

[Michael Bostic]

There's so many shows.

[Lauren Bostic]

The point is, there's so many shows. You can't. There's two.

[Heather Graham]

Okay. But heated rivalry makes you happy. Because I'm in the Academy, and I'm so grateful, because my whole career, I'm so grateful to be in the Academy. A lot of those Academy movies are very disturbing. So you're watching it. It's like genocide. People are dying. It's every terrible. And then you watch he and it's like, hot gay guys are having sex with each other and falling in love.

[Michael Bostic]

What does it mean to be in the Academy?

[Heather Graham]

Basically, you get admitted by your body of work, and you get to vote for the Academy Awards.

[Michael Bostic]

That's cool.

[Heather Graham]

It's so cool.

[Michael Bostic]

I mean, that's a flex.

[Heather Graham]

No, it is amazing. Yeah, I'm flexing right now.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. To be in the Academy is amazing if you have to do a sex scene or a nude scene.

[Heather Graham]

Actually, one last flex.

[Michael Bostic]

Yes.

[Heather Graham]

I had my roller skates. There were two pairs of roller skates and Boogie Nights, and I had my pair, and I was like, I guess I should give these away because I'm moving. I'm like, why am I keeping this? And then people were like, no, don't do that. And so my manager gave them to the Academy museum and they took them. Isn't that cool?

[Lauren Bostic]

Those are iconic skates.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. Do not give those skates away. Oh, my God. I feel like millions of people.

[Heather Graham]

I gave them to the Salvation Army. But no, My manager was like, no. And then people buy those movie props. And then I work with Mike Flanagan, who's a really talented director, and he bought the other pair and he has one of the Boogie Nights roller skates, and he has them in his house with, like, he has a lot of movie props.

[Michael Bostic]

You gotta be that for Halloween one year again.

[Heather Graham]

I know. Well, I'm doing a photo shoot with Us Weekly on Friday, and I'm gonna wear roller skates. They asked me to wear, like, roller skates.

[Michael Bostic]

I mean, that's adorable.

[Lauren Bostic]

Can you skate?

[Heather Graham]

I can, but I mean, I haven't recently skated that much. But hopefully I won't kill myself.

[Michael Bostic]

When you have to do any kind of nude scene, do you do a shot of tequila before you do it or do you just go in, like, what's it called? Raw Dog?

[Lauren Bostic]

No, I don't think that's. No, that's not the right term.

[Michael Bostic]

No.

[Heather Graham]

Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

No, I have to raw dog to

[Heather Graham]

her, like, for that before.

[Michael Bostic]

Just go in, like, I'm just gonna see how this. Or do you plan it in your head? Or is it not nerve wracking at all?

[Heather Graham]

I mean, it is nerve wracking. It's slightly terrifying because, you know, I mean, as a woman, like, you're looking at your body like, oh, my God, there's flaws.

[Michael Bostic]

Ah.

[Heather Graham]

You know, and then, of course, you try to, like, dye it or, like, try to look as good.

[Michael Bostic]

So much pressure.

[Heather Graham]

But then, you know, ultimately, I think

[Michael Bostic]

you just try to.

[Heather Graham]

As an actor, you try to just get into the story and not be self conscious.

[Michael Bostic]

What if the guy gets excited? Like, what do you do? You just keep going with it. I mean, I can imagine you on that.

[Heather Graham]

Some actors say, like, well, forgive me if I get excited and forgive me if I don't.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay. Oh, I was hooking up with a guy on set and they didn't at

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[Michael Bostic]

I would be very offended.

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[Michael Bostic]

I would be very offended if there

[Lauren Bostic]

wasn't, like a. Yeah, but I think on the other side is, like, if they do, then maybe that's, like, creepy too. I don't know. Well, no, if I was in that situation, I wouldn't know what the appropriate move would be. You know, I just.

[Michael Bostic]

That is funny.

[Lauren Bostic]

I would really be, like, concentrating on, like, just being fully professional.

[Michael Bostic]

Good thing you're not Taylor. He would just finish.

[Heather Graham]

There's a lot of people there. You're not just alone. Like, there's like 10 people. Like, someone's doing your hair and makeup. Lighting. Yeah. So you're not, like, sitting there alone?

[Michael Bostic]

Okay. I just was. I heard an interview with another actress that says she would do three shots of tequila before she did the sex scene.

[Heather Graham]

Wow.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, she said it on a podcast.

[Heather Graham]

Did it work?

[Michael Bostic]

Sex and Life. The show Sex and Life.

[Heather Graham]

Oh, wow.

[Michael Bostic]

She said she had to do three shots?

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Who, Sarah Michelle Geller? No, Sarah Shahi.

[Heather Graham]

Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

I don't know her last name. I have to Google it.

[Lauren Bostic]

Taylor, pull it up before the end of this show.

[Michael Bostic]

It's sex life. And she said she did three shots of tequila before.

[Heather Graham]

That'll do it.

[Lauren Bostic]

A good amount of shots.

[Michael Bostic]

After Austin Powers, what was your next big thing?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I was in a movie called Bowfinger that was just around the time of Boogie Nights. Austin Powers, Bowfinger? Yeah. There was some cool things, I guess I did, you know, from Hell with Johnny Depp.

[Michael Bostic]

How was that? Was that fun?

[Heather Graham]

It was fun. Yeah. We were in Prague, and it was very. It's cool.

[Michael Bostic]

Johnny Depp, cool.

[Heather Graham]

He was cool.

[Michael Bostic]

He's cool.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

I mean.

[Heather Graham]

Oh, wow. Cool.

[Lauren Bostic]

Taylor is back there.

[Michael Bostic]

And then you did Californication, the Hangover, Law and Order, True Crime, the Menendez Murders. That would give. That. That's a lot.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Is that when you have to take on a role like that? Does that affect your inner peace?

[Heather Graham]

It can in moments, but I don't know. As an actor, there is something kind of cathartic about it. I mean, you don't want to be in that headspace, like, every day, all the time. But it's kind of fun having a juicy role.

[Michael Bostic]

So it's better to have the juicy role with dynamic than something that feels flat.

[Heather Graham]

Well, the good thing about movies and TV is you're doing this and it ends. And, you know, you do the intense scene one day, but I don't know how people do plays, because they do every. That seems harder to me. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

So with the Menendez brothers, it's not, like, hard to focus on that and then have to go home and turn

[Heather Graham]

it off, you know, it is disturbing. But, like, read the news. The news is as disturbing as the Menendez brothers. I mean, read about the Epstein files. It's like, so it's more disturbing, you

[Michael Bostic]

know, that's gonna be a movie. I feel like that's gonna be. That's gonna be a Netflix show. It's gonna be called the Files, and it's gonna be creepy.

[Lauren Bostic]

They already have one, but I wish,

[Heather Graham]

like, someone would just get some justice. I don't know. It's just, like, where's the justice.

[Lauren Bostic]

Some of these people that are being revealed have been like propped up over years and years as like these people that you should look to. And I think the big lesson here is you gotta really be careful about.

[Heather Graham]

Well, my friend made a comment, he said out of all these, you know, mostly men abusing these like young people, like there's only one person that's gone to jail and it's a woman. What's her face? Ghislaine. I don't know how you pronounce her name.

[Michael Bostic]

I never even thought about that.

[Heather Graham]

Isn't that screwed up? She is the only one who is in jail.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, I guess he was there until.

[Heather Graham]

I guess he was there until they quarantined him. He's not there anymore.

[Lauren Bostic]

Allegedly. Let me come close.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, allegedly. Everything's allegedly allegedly. How do you define an empowered woman? You were talking about off air about how you're all about empowering women. How do you define someone that's empowered?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I like, first of all, I guess I want to empower myself. And then I'm into female empowerment, you know, and I like to be around women that are into that. I think it's just feeling good about yourself, loving yourself and like not letting other people take that away from you, basically.

[Michael Bostic]

Do you have a spirituality practice? I know, I think you read, you practice tm.

[Heather Graham]

I do tm, yeah, I do a lot of stuff. I do tm, I do yoga. I go to Al Anon. I don't know if you guys know what it is. It's basically a 12 step group. I'm not like an alcoholic or drug addict. It's more about relationships, like having someone in your life that's been a drug addict or alcoholic. And it's kind of about codependency basically. And I do that.

[Lauren Bostic]

What led you to that to begin with?

[Heather Graham]

You know, a friend of mine was going and I was kind of bored one day and I went. And after I went I just felt like so uplifted. And it is about spirituality. It's about connecting to your higher power and like turning all your worries and fears over to your higher power. And it's about just love being the best version of yourself, kind of loving yourself first and giving from the overflow as opposed to like, I feel like I was brought up in like a patriarchal culture that was like, give to everyone else and after you've given to everyone else, if there's maybe do something nice for yourself if there's time, you know, it was not like, love yourself and then Give from the overflow.

[Michael Bostic]

That's interesting that you go to Al Anon. Do you go once a month? Once a week, whenever you feel. Is it like, scheduled?

[Heather Graham]

I usually go like twice a week.

[Michael Bostic]

Oh, yeah, that's. I'm like, very interested in that.

[Heather Graham]

I think it's really interesting. And you know what? It's a beautiful way that people share. It's almost like, you know, you're on a podcast. People are just sharing intimate details about their life with, like, people they don't really know. And you watch people grow and you know when you're going through something and you see someone else sharing something similar, it gives you a deeper understanding of, like, what to do in your own life when you look at them and go, wow. Like, you know, I don't want to do that, you know.

[Michael Bostic]

Right. And you can also look at. It seems like that it teaches you how to deal with. If you have someone in your life that's an alcoholic or a drug addict.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, it's totally. It's basically about detaching with love like that you have to just decide if you can accept their behavior or not. And if you can, then just to be as loving as you can and to set healthy boundaries, or if you can't, like how to lovingly detach and just like love them from afar. Basically.

[Michael Bostic]

I would like to go to one of those. Let's see. In Austin. I think that sounds really interesting to me. That sounds more interesting than a one on one therapy.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, I think. Well, because the one on one therapy is all about you. Right. And there's nothing wrong with that, but I think with this you can start.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, there's all kind of healing things. Like I do this thing called cranial sacral therapy. Not a lot of people know what it is, but it's kind of like getting a massage. But it's almost like you're. It affects your nervous system and like calming it down. And I feel like that's very spiritual and I'm just into any kind of like, healing, healing stuff.

[Michael Bostic]

I cannot believe you just said that you do cranial sacral.

[Heather Graham]

Why do you do it?

[Michael Bostic]

It is all I talk about.

[Heather Graham]

I am obsessed.

[Lauren Bostic]

I just started doing it because of her.

[Heather Graham]

Oh my God. Really? I am obsessed.

[Michael Bostic]

It is been, at least for me, nine years of therapy in seven months.

[Heather Graham]

Because I feel like talk therapy doesn't get like. If you've had like past trauma, it doesn't heal your trauma the same way. That's like somatic. Some kinds of somatic therapy can, I think too It's.

[Michael Bostic]

It. It's in your fascia, the trauma. So, like. Like, say you got in a car accident or say someone did something really bad to you and there's a trauma there. It's in your fascia.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

And there's an unwinding that happens in it where it releases the trauma that's stored in the fascia.

[Heather Graham]

No, that totally happened.

[Michael Bostic]

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[Michael Bostic]

And the sweetness, I like to make very, very light.

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I recommended this drink, too, to some

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Heather Graham]

I get it. I go once a week. I am literally obsessed now.

[Lauren Bostic]

I started doing it.

[Michael Bostic]

Just tell me off air who you go to, because I don't have anyone here.

[Heather Graham]

No, I have someone really good.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay. What she told me, and I thought this blew my mind, is she said when babies come out of the womb, a lot of people think that they're colic or they're crying a lot or they're a bad baby. And what it actually is is that the baby has had a traumatic experience coming through the canal.

[Heather Graham]

Wow.

[Michael Bostic]

And that even like you or you or you, we could have had traumatic experiences at birth. That is stored in the fascia. And if that doesn't get released, the baby's constantly uncomfortable. And that you can actually have your birth trauma when you're like 21 or 40 or 50 or 60. So what the. What she does is she aligns the baby after birth and it like sets up this whole.

[Heather Graham]

Wow, I need to help your child. Wow, that's amazing.

[Michael Bostic]

It's like the energy was just like. He was maybe like fussy and it just cleared.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, then the problem is it's not a problem, but she gets her hands on someone like me who's like 40 years of burying it down deep.

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[Heather Graham]

Cause you're a guy too, so you're probably repressing now.

[Lauren Bostic]

It's like I'm trying to work through it, but it was crazy. Like the first few times I started doing it, I started getting these crazy headaches the week after.

[Heather Graham]

Did you guys have any memories come up while you were doing it from your past?

[Lauren Bostic]

Yes, she does.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, she has memories. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

It's when you start unwinding it. My girl calls it unwinding. I cannot believe. I mean, I love to try all different things, but it is so powerful.

[Heather Graham]

It is so powerful. And I think it's so cool. People care about trauma now because I think in the past, people didn't really understand it, but I was looking at the best selling books of the year, and the number one best selling nonfiction book was the Body Keeps the Score about the trauma.

[Lauren Bostic]

It's an older book.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah. Isn't that interesting?

[Michael Bostic]

People are paying attention. They're understanding that it's stored in the body. Cranial sacral. I cannot say I love that you just said that. You're one of, like, maybe the second person to know.

[Heather Graham]

No one knows what it is.

[Michael Bostic]

Usually it's random.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, it is.

[Lauren Bostic]

Almost feels like it took me a second to understand what was going on because you kind of just.

[Heather Graham]

And do you feel it's helped you or what do you.

[Lauren Bostic]

I think what I've realized is that to your point, there's probably stuff that's buried down deep that I know is there. And then my. My mind, or my. Whatever personal defense system I put up.

[Michael Bostic]

It's all closed off.

[Lauren Bostic]

Is doing whatever it's doing to guard whatever's in there. And so I know I need to get it out in some kind of way.

[Heather Graham]

That's exactly what happened to me. It was like I went for the first time and it was like, you know, these memories you're trying to bury, they're there. You have to deal with it.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah. That's how I feel. I feel the memories are buried. I know they're there. I know they're probably holding me back in some way, but I haven't quite got them out yet.

[Michael Bostic]

Do you talk when you do it, or do you just sit in meditation?

[Heather Graham]

I've done both. There's some people I've gone to where I don't talk, but there's other people where I will talk and I'll. I'll just tell them, like, all these personal stuff, and it's kind of cathartic.

[Michael Bostic]

Yes. I go to Dr. Maria in Austin. If you're ever in Austin, I will shout her out. She's amazing.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

And she has totally changed my life.

[Lauren Bostic]

I'm never getting an appointment again.

[Michael Bostic]

No.

[Lauren Bostic]

There goes all my trauma work.

[Heather Graham]

I give you guys first priorities.

[Michael Bostic]

We gotta live in abundance. We gotta.

[Lauren Bostic]

The trauma's gonna be buried the rest of my life.

[Michael Bostic]

That's really cool that you do cranial sacral, but I think it's also cool that Al Anon. I feel like it's synergistic to the cranial sacral.

[Heather Graham]

It is. It is. I think, like, because I wasn't out, I'm.

[Michael Bostic]

I'm.

[Heather Graham]

Well, I am still. But I did the 12 steps, and that allowed me to, like, uncover, like, past trauma and be there and, like, in a. In a loving way to, like, heal.

[Michael Bostic]

That basically really cool. Those two things together seem very, very powerful.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

What's a daily habit or a ritual that you do every single day to look like this bombshell Persona is there, like, what's happening beauty wise?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I like getting a lot of sleep. I like working out. I work out, like, five times a week. And I just, like, try to surround myself with loving people. Yeah. Eat healthy food. I'm really into cooking and eating.

[Michael Bostic]

What are you cooking?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I like having people over and cooking. I'm kind of toying with the idea of maybe doing, like, a cooking show, but whenever I cook for my friends, they're like, you need to put this on Instagram and you need to do a cooking show. Because I. It feels, like, very loving to make food for people you care about. So I cook for my friends a lot.

[Michael Bostic]

What workouts is Heather Graham doing?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I really like yoga a lot. That's my number one top. In fact, I'm about to go on a yoga retreat on Saturday. I'm so excited. But I like to take really hard yoga classes, like, where you're sweating and you're, like, doing all. And then by the end, you feel, like, cathartically, like, so good. And hot yoga. I mean, I don't always do hot yoga, but there is one class I like to go to that is hot. It's very hot. And then I do Pilates and I go to the gym.

[Michael Bostic]

Are you, like, lifting weights?

[Heather Graham]

I do sometimes lift weights. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay.

[Heather Graham]

Not all the time, but sometimes cardio. Cardio. I should probably do more cardio. What about you?

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[Michael Bostic]

Well, I'm in the midst of losing £20, so it's. That's been a journey. And I look at a lot of weights.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, okay.

[Michael Bostic]

Heavy weights. But I think that. I think yoga would be very synergistic, just like cranial, sacral, and al. Anon.

[Heather Graham]

It feels like it's so good.

[Michael Bostic]

I know. I feel like I need more yoga. Yeah.

[Heather Graham]

I feel like I get to a spiritual place in yoga where, especially if I go to a hard class, and sometimes when it gets hot and, like, you're sweating, by the end of it, you just feel like you're, like, reborn and like you're just, like all your stress is gone, and you just feel like, just happy to be alive at

[Michael Bostic]

this point in your career. What is making you say yes?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I do love what I do. I'm getting more into some development stuff, like, you know, writing and directing and optioning books. And I do love what I do, and I love people, you know, even though I like to be an introvert, sometimes I like working with people. And, like, in the movie I have coming out, I got to do, like, action scenes, you know, that was really fun. I had never really gotten to do, like, these fight scenes before. But I do like being creative and telling stories, and I like stories with female protagonists.

[Michael Bostic]

When you say optioning books, does that mean you take a book and turn it into a movie?

[Heather Graham]

Yes. You option the book on the road to, like, turning it into a film or a TV show. Like, I'm writing stuff and, like, just all different. Like, I just optioned the script and I gave it to, like, Happy Madison, and they're potentially interested. That's cool. Yeah. So lots of different, interesting.

[Lauren Bostic]

Have you worked with them before?

[Heather Graham]

I did work with Adam on anger management, like, a time ago, but. Oh, my God, I forgot.

[Lauren Bostic]

That's a good movie, too.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah. And Jackie Sandler likes the script that I. Whatever. Anyway, I hope it happens. But I just love. I love watching stories with female protagonists, maybe because when I came up in the business, there were not that many. I think now there's so much more content, so they're making more. But I just like seeing stories where a woman. It's from a female point of view.

[Michael Bostic]

Who is your favorite actor or actress that you've worked with?

[Heather Graham]

Wow, this is like, a hard question.

[Michael Bostic]

Or maybe, like, your top three. You've worked with so many.

[Heather Graham]

I mean, my mind is a bl Ever. I feel so grateful to work with so many people.

[Michael Bostic]

She's like, Johnny Depp, Adam Sandler, Mike Myers, Burt Reynolds. I mean, there's so many.

[Lauren Bostic]

Burt Reynolds is pretty cool.

[Michael Bostic]

Do you, like, realize when you're in it how crazy it is what you're doing? Or does it not feel it's cool?

[Heather Graham]

It is cool to think, like, oh, my God, like, I got to work with, like, Steve Martin and Eddie Murphy or, like, you know, these cool people. Like, I'm kind of obsessed with Patricia Arquette, and I just got to work with her.

[Michael Bostic]

That's cool.

[Heather Graham]

I'm like, wow, I love you. You know what I mean? I'm a fan.

[Michael Bostic]

So who is? Like, if you had to pick someone who has been the biggest inspiration that you've worked with?

[Heather Graham]

I don't know. This is, like, a question I feel like I need to think more about. I mean, one of the most inspiring movies I watched was, like, Harold Maude and, you know, Bud Court just died. But I thought Ruth Gordon in that mov was really inspiring. And I think that movie, like, really inspired my whole life because she had such a zest for life, and she was such a quirky, interesting individual, and I felt really inspired by her, but I never got to meet her.

[Michael Bostic]

When you're acting, do you. Is it something that comes naturally at this point, like, you don't even have to prepare because you've got it. Or is it something that you constantly have to refine?

[Heather Graham]

I work so hard. I recently started, a few years ago, started working with this new coach. Her name's Warner Lachlan. And she coaches the. All these really cool actors. But she has this whole method where you come up with all these memories from your past. So say you get a character, you read the script, and then we'll come up with like. Like seminal moments in the past. Like this happened and then this made you do this. And. And then you. You. You use your imagination. You. You imagine all these memories. So then it's weird. You close your eyes and you talk through the memory. She has a whole book about it, but it really, when you go there, it. It's really powerful. All the preparation is there, and that helps you do it.

[Lauren Bostic]

I've heard also when you work with great actors or actresses, it feels easier than when you work with people that are maybe not as. Because I've heard from other people that you're able to kind of like, drop into the role easier if the person across from you is really good in their role.

[Heather Graham]

It makes it appears more. It helps make it real. Yeah, that's true.

[Michael Bostic]

That makes sense because even with an interview, I feel like that's similar. If the person's open, it's easier to interview.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, it's always hard. It's harder to do. I think any kind of medium like this, when somebody's either, like, nervous or not into it or like, off. Right?

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. Yeah. So are you going to focus in the next chapter of your career more on the behind the scenes?

[Heather Graham]

Yes. I'm working on having my own production company. I have my own production company. It's called Force of Nature Studios.

[Michael Bostic]

Cool.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah. My goal, I have a whole pitch deck that I came up with is just to tell, like, really cool, interesting stories with, like. Like, with female protagonists. And I mean, I'm inspired by Reese Witherspoon and Margot Robbie and their companies and how they, you know, focus on that because, you know, the business is not really focused on that. And if you look at how movies are made, each actor has a value and the men are just worth way more. And so it's a lot easier to get a movie greenlit if you're a man. So I think it's cool. All these women that are taking that into their own hands, how do we

[Michael Bostic]

change the way that people are paid in this business? Why? I don't understand why the Men are paid more.

[Heather Graham]

The men are paid more because they take the movies that you've made and they put it into like this whole mashup. And then, you know, then that makes them worth more, like, whatever, like an action. Mainly because the whole business and the whole world is from a patriarchal system. So it's kind of changing all that. That would do it.

[Michael Bostic]

So, like, you take a superhero character and the superhero's made like, 1, 2, 3, 4. But what if there's a woman in it, too?

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, you know, we had Scarlett Johansson on, and I think she might be one of the highest, highest paid actress because she was in that Marvel franchise. She's in. I think she's in more Marvel movies than. Maybe not now, but she's been in a shitload of those films.

[Michael Bostic]

But I think that there shouldn't be such a big pay difference. I don't understand.

[Heather Graham]

I mean, it's not only pay, it's what they greenlight, you know. So if you look at the Avenger or even movies like that, usually there's like a male lead, you know, and then, oh, the woman's like the second or third or fourth lead. So it's. It's just something, you know. Of course there's the exceptions and there's movies with female leads, but it's. It's more. The majority are male leads.

[Michael Bostic]

So this is why you're so passionate about dating.

[Heather Graham]

That's why I am. Because I do feel like it affects women. Like, I know it affected me, like, growing up. And you see yourself as always, like, the women are always the supporting characters. And I think I grew up being a people pleaser and like, oh, my God, I'm supposed to, because that was my model. My mother was like a very traditional mom. And it felt like it was all about, like, what does my dad want? And my mom's just trying to please him. And it just felt like she didn't feel like an equal to me. So, yeah, I felt like as a woman, I wanted role models of women to look at who were strong and doing what they wanted and not just trying. Of course, of course. It's, you know, if you love someone, you want to please them, and that's fine, but to be your own individual, strong self and not just to be like, what do you want, honey?

[Michael Bostic]

You know, there is this book that you have to produce. It just came out and it's all about. It's kind of like, has the same energy of what you're saying. Like, the woman steps into her own power. It's called Strangers.

[Heather Graham]

Okay. Wow.

[Michael Bostic]

And it's about this woman that feels like a stranger in her marriage and they end up getting a divorce. And. And it's.

[Lauren Bostic]

What the hell you doing reading that?

[Heather Graham]

So good. I need a new book cuz I'm going on a yoga retreat. I want it.

[Michael Bostic]

Strangers. Perfect for a yoga retreat. Who wrote it? Her name's Belle. B E L L E. I'm not sure what her last name is. You can google what her last name is cuz they want to shout her out. Okay. This book I. I started, I could not put it down and it's like exactly the same vibe of what you're saying.

[Heather Graham]

Interesting.

[Michael Bostic]

You need to produce.

[Heather Graham]

Okay. I'm going to totally.

[Michael Bostic]

Can I have a supporting role?

[Lauren Bostic]

A cameo?

[Heather Graham]

A cameo? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Well, first I have to get the option from the writer.

[Michael Bostic]

You have. I'm read this on the yoga retreat. I was meant to meet you and you are meant to produce everything you do.

[Heather Graham]

I would like that. I would love to find a new book.

[Michael Bostic]

I feel like it has like already. Bell Burden. Yep, that's it. Bell Burden. And you know what? I think it already has 100,000 five stars on Amazon. Like it's so good. It's such a good book.

[Heather Graham]

Well, I am writing a script right now which I haven't finished, but it's about this woman that goes to like a Jeffrey Epstein island and kills everyone. I'm like, I want revenge. Nobody's getting any consequences. I'm writing this. I'm like, I need to probably do.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, you heard it here first.

[Lauren Bostic]

The question is, is it gonna get greenlit? Take it around.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, if she has all women working around her, maybe it will. That's.

[Heather Graham]

I mean, that needs to like have some justice for that.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, that's. You would be a great person to spearhead that. Someone going, no, but I want to

[Heather Graham]

read the Stranger's book. Thank you. I need a good book.

[Michael Bostic]

I read the Stranger. I feel like you'll love this.

[Heather Graham]

That book. Okay.

[Lauren Bostic]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Michael Bostic]

So Mara Labs actually started after founders

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[Michael Bostic]

I gave it to my dad, I

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Michael Bostic]

You guys have to listen to the episode. They also have this other product that's really interesting.

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Michael Bostic]

different now than in your 20s?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I think I have a lot of similarities, actually. My friend just gave me. Have you seen those picture frames where the pictures like are like on a video screen and they float through?

[Lauren Bostic]

Anyway, my mom loves those things. She gets mad if we don't send pictures to it.

[Michael Bostic]

That's cute.

[Heather Graham]

Okay. So anyway, I think they have a lot of similarities, but I do think I'm better. I think I kind of was brought up in this old fashioned family where it was like, you're just supposed to go be obedient. Right. You're not supposed to go, well, I don't agree, or this is the thing, or I want this or I want that. Like it's very different from how kids are today. But so it took me a lot to learn how to speak up for myself to kind of get clear on what do I want and not just try to be a people pleaser, basically.

[Michael Bostic]

Are you a reader?

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Is there any books that you can recommend to our audience?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I just read the new Jennette McCurdy book I liked. Well, of course, you know, I'm so Glad My mom Died was great. And then her new one is called Half His Age, which I thought I would like be triggered by. But it was like, great. She's so good.

[Michael Bostic]

She's a good writer.

[Heather Graham]

She's a really good. And I actually listened to it. Cause of the traffic in la. I was listening to it. But let's see. Have you guys read the Vanishing Half? That's a really good book. It's about these two sisters who are black, but they can pass. And one decides to pass as white and the other doesn't. It's kind of like the trajectories of their lives. And it's really interesting.

[Michael Bostic]

Jeanette McCurdy. I read I'm Glad my Mom Died, but I have not read the other one. I'm gonna put that on my list.

[Heather Graham]

It's really good.

[Lauren Bostic]

You.

[Heather Graham]

If you have, like, Spotify or Audible. She reads her own book and you can listen to it. It's pretty great.

[Michael Bostic]

That's. I feel like she would be a good one to produce, too.

[Heather Graham]

You guys should interview her. So interest.

[Lauren Bostic]

We've been going back and forth with her.

[Michael Bostic]

I would love to.

[Lauren Bostic]

And trying to figure out.

[Heather Graham]

She's very open.

[Lauren Bostic]

Would love to talk to her.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, she is very open. What's a rule that you have with yourself when it comes to choosing prod projects now?

[Heather Graham]

I guess, you know, the script and then the people involved and. And then money. I don't know. Is it okay to say sometimes you just want to make money?

[Michael Bostic]

You know, like, own it?

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, own it. I mean, I think you hope it'll be good, but you don't always know.

[Michael Bostic]

You. This is a question that our team asked. You've never followed the traditional script. The marriage, the kids, the settling down in a conventional way. Are you. Do you feel like that's natural, or do you feel like you have to defend it?

[Heather Graham]

I mean, I think that more women, more. The culture's more accepting of it now. I think in the past, it was this idea of, like, well, why? Why aren't you doing that? But I think less people are doing it, you know, than they were, you know, so it's not like. I think it's great to do it if you have this love in your heart and you want to give to kids. But I don't think everyone should feel, like, obligated because obviously there's a lot of people that are terrible parents and, you know, better not to do it if you don't think you could.

[Michael Bostic]

I also think there's, like, it's different strokes for different folks. Like, not everyone wants to do the same blueprint that is accepted by society.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah. I had a therapist, and she was like, you know, if you don't have kids, then life will bring you people to nurture. You know, so then there's other things that come into your life that you can nurture.

[Michael Bostic]

You know, I mean, Jennifer Aniston is such a good example of that. Like, she, to me, seems like she lives. I mean, I don't know her, but she seems like she lives such A full, beautiful life.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

I feel like she's always hosting her friends, and she has, like, friends that are family members. And I think she's a good example for people that don't want to.

[Lauren Bostic]

Did people pressure you in the past?

[Heather Graham]

Well, because if you think about it, it's kind of sexist. I don't think people are going, well, you're a guy. Why don't you have kids? Like, what's wrong with you? I. I mean, whatever. It's not the same judgment as on a woman. So I do think it's cool that more women are just like, it's fine to not do it. If it's not.

[Michael Bostic]

It's not for me. I like that.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah. I think what happens with guys later. Cause some of my friends are going through this is like, if you reach a certain age and you haven't settled down, they're like, well, are you never gonna, like, they kind of look at you as like, well, you're just like a playboy all the time. You're never gonna, like, take an ear.

[Michael Bostic]

It's not the same with women, though.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, but it's not necessarily in a negative way, but you could be in,

[Heather Graham]

like, a serious relationship and not have kids, too.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, that's right.

[Michael Bostic]

You know what I mean? But, yeah, you know who's done it, right? They did have kids, but you know who's done it cool is Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell that they seem like they have fun and they're not married.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

You know, we could have just dated forever.

[Lauren Bostic]

Was that. We're not doing that.

[Heather Graham]

Wait, so how long have you guys been together?

[Michael Bostic]

We've been together for a long time. It's like that meme. We've been married, though, for 10 years.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, but we've been together since we were. It's like 20 years, but we've known each other for. Since we were 12. So, like, basically.

[Heather Graham]

That's so cute.

[Michael Bostic]

I think the trick is, is you have to like the person, not love.

[Heather Graham]

Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

I think you have to, like, what is your trick? You've got to like them. Like, I want to, like to be around. If I woke up tomorrow and didn't want to be around you and stopped liking you.

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[Michael Bostic]

Like, I got to like you.

[Heather Graham]

Is it because, like, you are friends as well as being, like, chemistry and stuff?

[Michael Bostic]

I like being around him.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, I think you have the chemistry and then, like, yeah, I think you're best friends.

[Heather Graham]

That's awesome.

[Michael Bostic]

That's the word. I prefer you, but if I didn't, I told You. No, I like, prefer to. If it's like, even if I'm out, like with my girlfriends, like if you came, I feel like it would add,

[Heather Graham]

make it more fun.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, it would make it more fun.

[Heather Graham]

I, I know you seem very sweet as a guy. You're like very supportive, cool, like you seem cool.

[Michael Bostic]

They should make more like you.

[Lauren Bostic]

Listen, like I, no, I, I feel, I, I, I talk about this a lot. I grew up with a mother who I saw my entire life work hard and have her own career and her own thing. And then I think as I got older I would just very comfortable with that dynamic. And then I was, I think in a weird way, if you want to get like psychological about it, I was more attracted to the archetype of a woman who kind of had that interesting. And less of the traditional, if that makes sense, because I didn't have it. I think as I've grown, I've noticed that I can be like, I can go to dinner with her friends and still just be myself, but be not.

[Michael Bostic]

So you're saying you're perfect?

[Lauren Bostic]

No, but you know what's funny is like I sometimes like, I'm probably not getting invited to all the guys trips or golf, golfing, which I don't want to go golfing. You know, stuff like that.

[Michael Bostic]

What practices do you do to protect your energy?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I think it's the people that you're around. And I think sometimes I need like a day or two to my, like sometimes I need to regroup by being alone, you know, or basically working out. I think working out gets me out of my head, which is really good.

[Michael Bostic]

I, it's like a recharge, like I

[Heather Graham]

said, being in nature. I'd say nature's so important. Like the new house I bought. I feel like I'm in nature. And yes, being in nature, being alone, sleeping.

[Michael Bostic]

Do you have a practice when it comes to writing?

[Heather Graham]

Sometimes I just like to, you know, go, okay, like I'm gonna set aside four hours today and just write something, you know, and then whatever it is, it is, but just set aside time and then just make, make myself do it.

[Michael Bostic]

Four hours is a long time.

[Heather Graham]

It's a long time. But people sit there for like eight hours.

[Michael Bostic]

I don't know how people do that.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

If I ever am writing, I, I feel like I only can do like an hour and a half. I need to try four hours.

[Heather Graham]

I mean, you can get a lot done in an hour and a half.

[Michael Bostic]

Oh my gosh, I'm trying to write something right now.

[Heather Graham]

What Are you writing?

[Michael Bostic]

I'm trying to write a book, but it's really hard. It's really hard. I honestly think, writing a book.

[Lauren Bostic]

It's funny to hear you say that because of course.

[Heather Graham]

Of course it's hard to get, like, a co writer to help. I don't know.

[Michael Bostic]

I feel like I'm so far in it that I'd rather just finish it. But then I'm like, is. Is that not a hard.

[Heather Graham]

I think it's. It is hard.

[Michael Bostic]

It's hard.

[Heather Graham]

I think it's really hard.

[Michael Bostic]

Maybe one of the hardest things. It's almost like. It's almost like being, like, birthing a baby. It's hard. The book thing is.

[Lauren Bostic]

Why are you looking at me like I would know? I don't know.

[Michael Bostic]

Anyway, what are you working on now? Tell us about your new movie.

[Heather Graham]

Okay, well, I have a movie coming out. It's called they Will Kill youl. And it's. Yeah, it's a funny title. It's easy to remember that title. It's coming out March 27th. We're premiering at south by Southwest on March 17th. And it's a very cool, very wild. It's almost. If you mix Kill Bill with, like, get out maybe and Rosemary's Baby, it's. It's a wild story.

[Michael Bostic]

We are at South By. We barely go out.

[Heather Graham]

Oh, wow.

[Michael Bostic]

For a little grandma.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, Grandpa.

[Michael Bostic]

But we like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Like, the beds. Yeah, the grandma and the grandpa. But we are going to.

[Lauren Bostic]

This business is headquartered out there.

[Michael Bostic]

So maybe we'll stop by and say hi.

[Heather Graham]

You should definitely.

[Michael Bostic]

Is it like a screening?

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, we're having a premiere. It's on the 17th at like, 9:30. And then we have, like a press day on the 18th. And there's like a kind of content creator. I'm sure they would love to have you guys, like.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, we'll stop by and say hi. We'll be there.

[Lauren Bostic]

We're speaking out there at that.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. But it's not the 17th. 16th, but maybe we'll go the next day.

[Heather Graham]

I get there the 16th and there's like. There's like a. We're having, like, some kind of content creator dinner. I'm sure that they'd be very excited if you guys want to be any part of it.

[Michael Bostic]

I'm gonna give you my email and you can let me know when you guys are there so everyone can go watch your movie. Is there anything else that you're working on that we can get excited for?

[Heather Graham]

Well, I just did. I did a movie. It's scary. It's called. Well, at the moment, the title's called what Happened to Doris? It's the Doris Byther story, which they. They made a movie in the 80s called the Entity with Barbara Hershey. It's a scary story about this woman that was, like, haunted in her house. And they took photos of it. It was like, the only. It's one of the most documented, like, stories of, like, haunting. And then I'm in this new Carrie TV show. And then I. I did a part in this Osgood Perkins movie where I basically. My face explodes.

[Michael Bostic]

I did a lot of scary horror things.

[Heather Graham]

I know I have. And then I have these two movies that I think I'm gonna do this year that are. That are more comedy. Yeah. And then I have a bunch of stuff that I'm working on in my development stuff.

[Michael Bostic]

Taylor has asked three guests on our show, and we've interviewed a lot of people to take a picture.

[Heather Graham]

Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

I think you're gonna be number four.

[Heather Graham]

Okay.

[Lauren Bostic]

He's gonna ask you.

[Michael Bostic]

I think he's gonna ask you for a picture.

[Heather Graham]

Okay. I would love to.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah.

[Heather Graham]

And I want to take a picture with you guys.

[Michael Bostic]

We're gonna take a picture, but Taylor never asks for a picture.

[Heather Graham]

Really? Taylor, I'm so honored. Thank you.

[Michael Bostic]

Taylor came in, whispered to me before you came on. She's so beautiful.

[Heather Graham]

Oh, that's nice.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, he's a fan. Heather, thank you for coming on the show.

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Thanks.

[Heather Graham]

It's fun talking to you guys.

[Lauren Bostic]

Thank you for doing this.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, maybe we'll see you in Austin.

[Heather Graham]

Yeah, I'll give you my number.

[Lauren Bostic]

By then, my trauma will be worked out.

[Heather Graham]

No, I want to hear your trauma.

[Michael Bostic]

The 20 movie tickets.

[Heather Graham]

Oh, my God. Well, I want a picture of you when you were 12. Like, a little picture.

[Michael Bostic]

One tickets, like, he felt me up. The next tickets, like, he grabbed my ass. The next tickets, like he took a finger.

[Lauren Bostic]

I was doing everything I could to go to the movies. Back then

[Heather Graham]

in the background was like, oh, my God. Well, you must have gone to some other movies. Like, what other movies?

[Michael Bostic]

Did you. No, we really didn't. We just got to routine.

[Lauren Bostic]

Listen, I gotta go.

[Heather Graham]

I don't care about the movie. Just I'm sitting next to this beautiful girl.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, we loved the movie, though, because it was so. I mean, again, at the time, it was so funny, you know?

[Heather Graham]

I know. It's funny.

[Michael Bostic]

Still is funny. It's a. What's it called? A perennial. Perennial seller. No, thank you for coming on the show.

[Lauren Bostic]

Thank you for doing this.