How To Unlock Your Higher Self & Reprogram Your Mind: Clear Limiting Beliefs, Heal Subconscious Blocks, & Manifest Your Dream Life

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Show

Episode: How To Unlock Your Higher Self & Reprogram Your Mind: Clear Limiting Beliefs, Heal Subconscious Blocks, & Manifest Your Dream Life

Air Date: October 17, 2025
Hosts: Lauryn Evarts Bosstick & Michael Bosstick
Guest: Marley Rose Harris

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Episode Overview

This inspiring episode dives deep into the art and science of identifying and breaking through self-limiting beliefs, healing subconscious blocks, and manifesting a life of abundance. Lauryn and Michael are joined by Marley Rose Harris, founder of the Higher Self app and personal development mentor, who shares her personal journey from a small town and family trauma to self-made success. The discussion blends tangible, tactical tips with illuminating personal stories, practical neuroscience, and straight-talking advice about money, relationships, the nervous system, and the power of self-awareness. The episode aims to give listeners actionable tools for reprogramming their minds and creating their dream lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Marley’s Background & Early Programming

• Marley’s upbringing: Grew up in a small Canadian town, parents were chefs; healthy living instilled early but had no real exposure to personal development until university.
  • “I grew up thinking, if you can make $100,000, you've made it... like, that is my dream.” (02:10, Marley)
• Early struggles: Gained weight in college, went on health journey, found personal development podcasts (including this one), and became obsessed with the world of self-improvement and entrepreneurship.
• First entrepreneurial steps: Designed websites and logos for local businesses before embarking on travel and remote work adventures in Australia (03:15–04:49).

2. Trauma, Family Dynamics, and the Blueprint of Chaos

• Marley recounts her father's suicide after her parents' separation, describing him as outwardly vibrant but deeply struggling.
  • “He was—the strongest, hardest working, most loved man that I ever knew... and he didn't see that in himself.” (05:57, Marley)
• She connects her attraction to chaos and patterns of self-sabotage to the emotional turmoil and instability of her childhood, highlighting the connection between upbringing and nervous system responses.
  • “Growing up, my nervous system was surrounded by chaos, that became a blueprint for me.” (07:08, Marley)

3. Self-Awareness: The Foundation for Change

• Lauryn and Michael emphasize the importance of self-awareness and personal accountability in changing one's life trajectory.
  • “I think one of the big things that directly impact the outcome of your life is how self-aware you are.” (08:52, Michael)
• Marley describes how self-awareness allowed her to notice—and eventually change—the patterns of chaos she repeated in her adult life.

4. The Limiting Belief Cycle and How to Break It

• Marley reveals that mainstream personal development advice (“change your beliefs!”) never explained how to actually do it. She developed her own method focused on working with the nervous system and subconscious reprogramming.
• Connection between survival mode and creativity:
  • “If your body is in chaos, it's signaling to your mind there's danger... you cannot build your dream business, manifest love, or follow your soul purpose in survival mode.” (15:15, Marley)

Practical Steps for Changing Money Beliefs (20:48–23:06)

1. Audit Your Beliefs:
   • Set aside quiet time, list all your beliefs about money, no filter/denial.
   • “Not writing it down isn't going to make it less believable. Like you still believe it.” (20:52, Marley)
2. Look for core limiting belief:
   • Most common: “I am not enough,” which echoes in every area (money, relationships, body image).
   • “If everyone in this world could just believe that they are more than enough just as they are, the world would be a completely different place.” (23:40, Marley)
3. Rewrite as Empowering Questions:
   • Flip each negative belief into a positive question instead of a flat affirmation (“How am I attracting so much money?” instead of “I am rich”).
   • “Your brain is actually wired to answer questions. So if you say, ‘How am I so beautiful?’... it can’t dismiss that because it’s a question.” (45:29, Marley)
4. Accountability Is Non-Negotiable:
   • Take 100% accountability for your reality.
   • “The first step is taking 100% accountability for your reality.” (18:33, Marley)
5. Self-Observation & Correction:
   • Regularly audit yourself for the traits you criticize or resent in others.
   • “If you’re pissed off that someone’s playing the victim, see where you’re playing the victim. Flip it on its head.” (42:52, Lauren)

5. The Role of the Nervous System and Subconscious Mind

• Our core beliefs and emotional “thermostats” are installed from birth to age 7.
• Marley connects childhood emotional states to adult habits and feelings of lack or chaos, referencing the reticular activating cortex (RAC) as the brain area that filters our reality based on what we believe.
  • “If you start to change your beliefs, you start seeing opportunities where you only saw ways you couldn’t make money.” (30:07, Marley)

6. Self-Worth, Scarcity, and Manifestation

• The group discusses how feeling “not enough” leads to perpetual lack in all areas.
• Lauryn and Michael note society’s tendency to humble or shame people with self-belief:
  • “People get shamed for bragging about themselves, being overconfident, being their biggest cheerleader.” (23:11, Michael)
• Marley on “attracting what you are”: If you want love, be loving to yourself today. If you want abundance, embody abundance now.

7. Desperation Repels: Letting Go to Attract

• Obsession/desperation energy (in money, love, etc.) creates resistance and repels your desires. The panel discusses personal experiences with relationship dynamics as a metaphor.
  • “If you want something so badly, you can’t attract it from chasing it. You have to become it.” (33:28, Marley)

8. Case Studies & Client Stories (35:09, 47:53)

• Marley shares transformative stories of clients who:
  • Cleared beliefs about being disrespected and instantly attracted a partner who respected boundaries (36:28–37:26).
  • Rewrote childhood beliefs about money, immediately receiving new financial opportunities (55:34–56:28).
  • Cleared her own block that “money makes people leave” and made $100,000 in one week after using her method (59:33–60:10).

9. The Limits of Money and What Truly Matters (56:28–58:58)

• Marley acknowledges money solves money problems, but peace, safety, and love are the greatest forms of wealth.
  • “What makes me happy is family... feeling safe, having a regulated nervous system, a safe home. That's the richest you can ever be.” (56:44, Marley)
• Referencing Jim Carrey’s quote:
  • “I hope everybody gets rich and famous so they can realize that it's not the answer.” (58:20, Michael quoting Jim Carrey)

10. The Higher Self App & Marley’s Tools (62:28–63:49)

• Marley’s app offers daily subconscious reprogramming & “Clear the Fear” meditations to recalibrate limiting beliefs in 22 minutes.
  • “Every morning, we need to recalibrate our brain to what we do want, because if not, we will go back to those automatic habits of 'not enough.'” (62:28, Marley)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The first step is taking 100% accountability for your reality.” — Marley (18:33)
• “If everyone in this world could just believe that they are more than enough just as they are, the world would be a completely different place.” — Marley (23:40)
• “People are addicted to just having enough. It's not their fault—it's something they learned. It's an identity.” — Marley (53:36)
• “You will always attract what you believe.” — Marley (37:25)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:50 – Marley’s background and introduction to wellness/personal development
• 04:49 – Move to Australia, working while traveling, call home about father's suicide
• 07:08 – How childhood chaos shaped nervous system and beliefs
• 13:54 – Most impactful self-development advice and method creation
• 16:36 – Tactics for changing money beliefs (audit, rewriting, accountability)
• 23:06 – "I am not enough": The root belief and its impact
• 30:07 – The reticular activating cortex and filtering reality
• 33:28 – Why desperate energy repels manifestation
• 36:28 – Client story: Changing beliefs and attracting respect in relationships
• 45:29 – Affirmations as questions for powerful reprogramming
• 55:34 – Client story: Clearing guilt around money and attracting abundance
• 56:44 – Does wealth change happiness?
• 59:33 – Marley clears her own money/fear block
• 62:28 – App explanation and daily rituals

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Actionable Takeaways

• Audit your beliefs regularly about money, love, body, success.
• Write your beliefs down, then flip each into an empowering question.
• Practice daily recalibration using rituals, meditation, or Marley’s app.
• Prioritize internal safety, peace, self-approval, and self-accountability.
• Remember: You can't attract what you aren't ready to be.

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Episode Tone

Real, candid, conversational, supportive, and cheeky; the hosts interweave personal anecdotes with hands-on advice and occasionally roast each other with good humor.

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Final Thoughts

The episode powerfully demonstrates that changing your beliefs—through self-awareness, emotional honesty, and consistent internal work—is not “woo-woo,” but essential for creating abundance in all areas of life. Marley, Lauryn, and Michael share both the “why” and the “how,” empowering every listener to start the journey of subconscious reprogramming today.

Transcript

[Michael Bostic]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Fantastic.

[Michael Bostic]

And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic.

[Lauren Everts]

Are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness.

[Michael Bostic]

Welcome to the Skinny Confidential. Him and her.

[Lauren Everts]

You know how there was, like. There's kale. It was like cold plunge saunaing. Like, there's all different kinds of, like, waves. I think the nervous system is about to hit.

[Michael Bostic]

I would rank the nervous system a little higher than Kale, though. You know what I mean? Like, I would put that one.

[Lauren Everts]

Kale had a moment. That the PR for Kale was really good.

[Michael Bostic]

It had a good PR moment. But I would say that, like, the nervous system is a much more important wave.

[Lauren Everts]

How did you become interested in the nervous system to begin with?

[Marley Rose Harris]

So I feel like my story goes back to All Honestly University, and I come from a town with 300 people. There's a stop sign, okay? And I was really lucky growing up. Both of my parents were chefs, and my mom was really into health and wellness. So growing up, I was so spoiled that when I got to university, I didn't even know how to cook an egg. So I go to university, and everyone's like, freshman 15. Freshman 15. And I was like, oh, that's not gonna happen to me. You know, I was just so fortunate to be given all this healthy food that I didn't even know what fat was, what sugar was. Anyway, so then I hit the cafeteria, and I'm not even thinking, and I'm drinking every weekend, eating whatever I want, and I come home and I'm like, I don't think I did freshman 15. I think I did, like, freshman, like, 30. It hit me hard, okay? And so for the first time in my life, I started working on, okay, I want to actually feel better. And so I started learning about health, about wellness, and really trying to understand how to feel good. And so I think my first intro to the nervous system and feeling good was through trying to feel better in my body. And that's actually how I found your podcast. So this is, like, back in 2018.

[Lauren Everts]

Wow.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

Thank you.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Longtime listener. And I was like, I was. And I had never heard of personal development. I'd never heard of this world. And right when I learned about it, I felt so at home. Like, I. I loved it. I became obsessed. And that's how I found out about Tim Ferriss, Joe Dispenza, all these people that were talking about all these magical things. And I grew up thinking, like, okay, if you can make $100,000, like, you've made it. Like, I would be like a millionaire. Like, that is like my dream. And so when I started learning about all these people, I was like, well, there's this whole other world out there that I didn't even know existed. And, like, I'm so thankful for a podcast because it expanded me and. And it expanded, you know, what I knew was even available and possible. And I'm that type of person that I'm like, okay, I read the four hour work week, and I basically made that my bible. And I was like, okay, I want to work four hours a week. I want to escape winter. I want to work from my laptop and I want to work from anywhere in the world. That was my biggest dream. If I could just do that, I will have made it. And I started working on the side. I started designing websites and logos for businesses in my small town. I saw it as like a little niche. And so I started doing that. And I wasn't. I wouldn't say it was like, doing well. Like, I was making like, money to like, drink on the weekends, you know, I really wasn't taking it seriously. But that first year, I booked a trip to Australia. And during winter.

[Michael Bostic]

Why Australia? Like, why can't. Like, what was the reasoning?

[Lauren Everts]

I don't know.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I just was like, I feel like I was a palm tree in a past life. Like, I'm a plant. Like, I'm so happy near the ocean. I'm so happy in sunshine.

[Michael Bostic]

Can you tell me where your town was near in Canada? Like, where?

[Marley Rose Harris]

So it's like three hours north of Toronto.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay.

[Marley Rose Harris]

It's a small town called Clarksburg, Ontario. Google it. Google it.

[Michael Bostic]

And what is like the main. I go the product or good or service that comes out of that? What is. What is the town known for?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Apples.

[Michael Bostic]

Apples. Interesting. And if your parents, I'm assuming if they were chefs, did they have restaurants in the town or what do you do?

[Marley Rose Harris]

So my dad had a restaurant growing up and then he started working in the gold mine. So he would fly down to Guyana. And yeah, my dad was wild. He also worked in la. He worked for Alice Cooper.

[Michael Bostic]

Like, he was Alice Cooper, like the heavy metal singer Alice?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, he was his driver.

[Michael Bostic]

That's pretty cool.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, he's as cool as me. Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

What do you say?

[Michael Bostic]

He was like, I want to play Alice Cooper. I'm 18. That's such a fucking good song.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Anyways, he was wild. I actually have Alice Cooper's jacket We.

[Michael Bostic]

Should have brought the. Okay. We should have let us out.

[Lauren Everts]

We should have worn the jacket.

[Marley Rose Harris]

No.

[Michael Bostic]

Do you know who we're talking about here?

[Marley Rose Harris]

He's tiny.

[Lauren Everts]

Like, I do know who you're talking about.

[Marley Rose Harris]

But wait, school's out for summer? Is it that?

[Michael Bostic]

But he's got a song called I'm 18. Everyone go play it on Spotify right now. I love that song. Like, made me just want to kick through a door when I was a kid.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay, so you moved to Australia?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, so I moved to Australia. And while I was in Australia, I was like, I'm a millionaire. Because I was working on my business and I was just making enough to break even while I was traveling. And I was, like, living in hostels, so I wasn't living large. But I was like, this is the best thing ever. Like, I made it. And, you know, that was just everything to me. And while I was there, I got a call and it was from my college, and they were like, we really want you to come run our entrepreneurship center. And this is in January. So it's in the middle of winter, and I just started learning about personal development. So I think I was meditating for, like, three minutes a day, like, nothing major. And I always had a gratitude journal that was about it. And I just had this, like, gut feeling that I was meant to go back. And everyone around me was like, don't go back. Like, it's the middle of winter. You're going to be so unhappy. You did this to escape winter. Like, you just stay in Australia. And I was like, I don't know. I just need to go back. So I took the job, flew back, and then two weeks after flying home, I got a call from my mom and my dad had committed suicide, and.

[Michael Bostic]

Oh, sorry to hear that.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Thank you. And for me, this was the impossible because he was and still is, like, my best friend. The strongest, like, hardest working, most loved man that I ever knew. Like, when he walked into a room, it was like, oh, my God, Andrew's here. Like, he. He just lit up a room. He was a life of every party. He was so loved. And he didn't see that in himself. And I learned that now in hindsight. And in that moment, I actually felt relief for him. I knew he was in a lot of pain. He was. While I was in Australia, my mom called me. No, he called me to say that they were separating. And I was like, thank God. Like, I have been waiting for this my whole life. Like, why? Because I grew up in a family where my mom and dad, I could see just sense from a very young age that they weren't happy with each other.

[Lauren Everts]

So that. So you. It sounds like your nervous system was out of whack when you were young too. Because to sense that is hard on the nervous system. And it sounds like your dad's nervous system was out of whack, obviously.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

Because of what happened to him. So that's interesting. There's like a thread.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. And I'm gonna thread this into a whole yarn in a moment. And so like that. Because as you grow up as a child, that's when you create your nervous system. And because growing up, my nervous system was surrounded by chaos, that became a blueprint for me. And I would just attract chaos everywhere I went because that was just my normal. And I didn't know what was happening.

[Michael Bostic]

When you say you would attract chaos, give me a few examples of, like, what you. What would happen.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Like, blacking out every weekend. I would do this thing where I'd always make myself late for everything. I would always leave everything until the last minute. I would always just get myself in these situations where I would just cause, like, for example, always making myself late, always making myself have pressure when there didn't need to be. And like, not choose peace. If that made sense. Like, if there was an avenue that was peace, I'd be like, okay, and I want to go this way. Even though it was like the less desired option. But that was just like what was normal to me. I track friendships, relationships. That would be that chaotic energy, because that was my safety zone. That was normal to me.

[Lauren Everts]

It's very self aware.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. So.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, not. Yeah, I mean, not a lot of people that exhibit those behaviors have the awareness to realize, like, that's how they're behaving. And I think for people around them, sometimes it could be very confusing because they're sitting there being like, why are you doing this? Selfish.

[Lauren Everts]

Are you talking about me?

[Michael Bostic]

No.

[Lauren Everts]

I feel like you are. I feel like this is like. Like this is like a manipulative tactic. I don't believe you. He's all, like, peripheral. Hold on.

[Michael Bostic]

I didn't even look at you.

[Lauren Everts]

I know, but that's. There's an energy.

[Michael Bostic]

If it feels right.

[Lauren Everts]

I'm too in tune. Sorry.

[Michael Bostic]

I'm not saying it's too soon. I'm.

[Lauren Everts]

But ask the question. Go ahead.

[Michael Bostic]

Wasn't talking about you, but if the shoe fits. And I'm not even.

[Lauren Everts]

Were you really not talking about me?

[Michael Bostic]

I swear to God, I wasn't talking about you, but that's another thing for you to examine. Okay, I will say you are, but I think, I think a lot of people struggle. I mean there's, there's things I think about a lot when one of the big things I think about is self awareness. And I think I'm not the only one. But I think it is like one of the big things that directly impact the, the outcome of your life is how self aware you are. And unfortunately a lot of people are very unself aware. Like they don't realize that what is in their wake after the decisions they make. They don't realize how they're being perceived by family and friends.

[Lauren Everts]

What's something that you're self aware about? About yourself?

[Michael Bostic]

Like, I can come off, I know for sure like that if, if you get introduced to me and I saying the wrong line. Like I, I know a lot of people think I'm probably an arrogant asshole and I'm aware of that. I'm aware of like the way I can come off. And so I tailor it in a different way in my personal life and others. But I'm like aware of that perception. I'm aware that. I'm aware that my, my blunt delivery sometimes can make people uncomfortable. Like I, like, I think the, the worst thing through life and you're not aware of those things and you're confused by why people react to you the way they do. Does that make sense? Or you're confused about why you're having the outcomes you're having. And I think I mean it as a compliment, like when you are that self, aware, you're able to either live and kind of like manage that or you're able to kind of use it to tailor the outcome that you want. But when you're not self aware, as mo. As and as I believe most people are not, or many people are not, then you go through life really struggling because you're like, why does this keep happening? Like, what's going on? Why am I in the bad relationship? Why do I have bad friends? Why do I not get the job I want? Why does this like, why am I always so upset? Like, you know what I mean? It's like it's, it's because they're not being self aware of like what's actually going on around them.

[Lauren Everts]

So through the self awareness of you realizing that you're choosing chaos over peace, what happens?

[Marley Rose Harris]

And I want to come back to that because that's a really good point. And so, okay, so going back, so in that moment when my mom called me, I Hung up the phone, and I called my best friend. And this was a best friend that I met in Australia, and I met two of the same people in the same way. I said, I love your tattoo. And I don't often compliment tattoos, but they had really beautiful tattoos. And they both said, oh, thank you. This is because I lost my. One was her boyfriend and one was her brother. And in that moment, I was like, wow, I've never met anyone so positive, so happy, and has been through a trauma like that. And I just had this knowing that I was like, I'm going to lose someone, and that's an example to me that I'm going to be okay. And so when my mom called me, I was like, okay, got to go. I called my friend, and she was like, marley, I just don't want this to make you lose your sparkle. And as cheesy as that sentence was, it was exactly what I needed in that moment, because I needed something to be my Northern Star. And I was like, I'm not gonna let this break me, because for the first time, I was experienced so much, like, happiness, which was living in Australia, running this business for actually, like, the first time in my life, like, feeling so happy. And I was like, okay, I am not gonna make this break me. I have no idea how to go through this. I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm just gonna make this make me. And it was at my dad's celebration of Life, like, four months later that I spoke and I said, I'm gonna dedicate the rest of my life to figuring out a way and a tool so that no one does what my dad did and think that that's the only option and has to struggle so much to get there. And I. And again, like, I had done, like, a three minute meditation at this point and maybe done, like, a few gratitude journals. Like, I had not healed or done any, like, deeper healing. And for the first time, I went to therapy because it was subsidized from the government. Like, we grew up, you know, I would say poor, like, struggling. And. And. And from a very young age, like, I just thought, okay, if I can have money, then everything will be okay. Because as a young child, I was always, like, observing, like, okay, what was causing the chaos, what was causing the problems. And it always felt like because there wasn't enough money, it caused tension. So from a very young age, I was like, I just want to make as much money as possible because then I'll be happy and then I'll feel love like as a young, I just remember thinking as a young child, like that was like the solution to the problem that is existing in the home. And so on that journey I was, I began becoming obsessed. Like I'm a Capricorn and once I get into something, I get in. So I was reading all the books, listening to all the podcasts, like Joe Dispenza, you know, Tony Robbins, all these people trying to figure, okay, how do people actually feel good? Like, how can people love themselves enough and actually have permanent change in their life and feel good? Because. And I became my own guinea pig because I again, didn't know how to deal with grief. There's no handbook, you have no idea what's going on. Like it was. I was literally going to work and my shoes had like massive holes in them and I didn't even notice. It was. So yeah, quick, quick pause on that.

[Michael Bostic]

Out of all those books and all those things that you read and studied, who, who do you remember being the most impactful or helpful? Because I'm sure a lot of people want to know. I mean, you mentioned Joe and Tony.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Well, can I be honest? None of them in, in the. Okay, that's not true. But in the sense of. Everyone kept saying the same thing to me. They kept saying, if you want to change your life, you have to change your beliefs. And I understood that because I started studying the subconscious mind and we can go into that of how that works. And, and I understood, okay, if you change your beliefs, you'll change your reality. Cuz I was like, how can someone grow up and have, and not have money, then have all this money? Like, what did they do? How did they get there? And I was trying to like reverse engineer success. And everyone just kept saying, you just have to change your beliefs. You just have to change your beliefs. But no one told me how. And I was like, okay. And the options were like hypnotherapy, journaling, da da, da. And I was like, I don't really like those options because nothing is, I mean, nothing in life is guaranteed. But there wasn't like a result. There wasn't like, okay, this is going to get this. It's like, just do this for the next 40 days and see what happens. And I didn't like that. I was like, I get, I want results. So over time and to bring it back to the nervous system, like, that's why I created my method is it is the most effective way to reprogram your limiting beliefs into positive ones. And you know, in my own life, I went, I lost 30 pounds. I became a self made millionaire at 30. Growing up poor. I met the love of my life and I have a healthy, loving, like beautiful relationship which wasn't modeled to me growing up. Financial wealth wasn't modeled to me. None of this was modeled to me growing up. But I was able to do that through changing my beliefs. And so when it comes to the nervous system, you know that is your body. So if your body is in chaos, it's signaling to your mind, okay, there's danger, there's threat. And when your body is in danger and threat, it's like, it's like a, a lion running like after a zebra. And the zebra is like, okay, danger, danger. That zebra is not thinking, okay, how am I going to make more money today? What's for dinner? You know, it's not like relaxing and like thinking about its highest next self is thinking about survival. And if I think if we get people out of that survival mode and out of that danger and allowing them to feel safe, that's when like the weight drops. That's when you manifest the relationship. That's when you build your dream business. That's when you follow your sole purpose. That's when you empower yourself to be the best version of yourself and create this life beyond your wildest dreams.

[Lauren Everts]

So say there's someone listening that has negative beliefs. What are some tactical tips that you can give to help change those beliefs? Cause you mentioned there was nothing that actually told you how.

[Marley Rose Harris]

So if someone listening, I'm sure everyone listening, like I teach this stuff and I embody this stuff every day. I still have limiting beliefs. Like everyone has limiting beliefs. It's the thing is, is okay, so let's choose an area of life. I think most people come to me for money.

[Lauren Everts]

I was just gonna say let's talk about money. The way people talk about money to me is wild. Wild.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

I don't even want to like say the word that I want to say because I feel like that's limited to me. I want to say like there's a way to think about money in a really abundant way. So how can we switch that belief if someone's listening, A lot of people.

[Michael Bostic]

Have so much fear around it because you're talking about survival like it is a modern day survival mechanism. Right? Like if you don't make a living, a lot of people assume this. If you don't make a living, you have a hard time making your way through the world. Because it's how we transact, it's how we Eat. It's how we provide birth. It's all these things.

[Lauren Everts]

But even that sentence that you just said's low vibration.

[Michael Bostic]

No, I'm just saying that's why people have fear around, around money.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Okay, so let's loop back to this self aware conversation. So there's a law called the cause of cause and effect. You are the cause of the effect. And I think once you start to realize that and empower yourself, like my financial reality was my effect. Like I was causing that effect. Okay. When I was $30,000, I created that. No one came in and gave me that debt. Like I created that. Which also means that I have the power to it.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, they see a lot of people have struggle with this line of. And by, by the way, I 100% agree with you. But a lot of people struggle with this because we live in a culture now where there's in many cases a lack of accountability and there's a lot of blaming and there's, you know, well, these are my circumstances or this how I grew up or this is what someone did to me or society puts this pressure on me. There's. And I agree with you, I think if you, if you don't have that accountability from the first place, it's very hard to do what I think you're about to talk about, which is then make the choice.

[Lauren Everts]

So what you're saying is the first step is self awareness and self accountability.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, I always say this. The first step is taking 100% accountability for your reality.

[Lauren Everts]

I mean put that on a T shirt.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I totally agree with you and I get it. Like it was so much easier for me to be like it's my parents fault. You know, it's the way I was raised and wanting to blame everyone else because that is the easier option. Like that's the way.

[Lauren Everts]

But it's.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I'm to get out of it. That's comfortable.

[Lauren Everts]

Also delusional.

[Marley Rose Harris]

But, but I always go back to like how bad do you want it? Like how bad do you want to change how bad my. Okay, in the beginning it was silly. But my why was literally I did not want to experience winter ever. Like, like I didn't.

[Lauren Everts]

But that's a lie.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Like that was so much pain for me.

[Michael Bostic]

The winners, you guys get up there like, you know, like if you've experienced like we don't have them. But I, I've heard stories of what those winners look like and like, you know, we freak out over here if it gets, you know, if it gets.

[Lauren Everts]

Into the 30s, if I go To London. I'm like, and I love London, but like by a week I'm like, oh my God. Because it's dark at three. I mean it's.

[Marley Rose Harris]

No, it's depressing. It's so depressing.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah, but maybe I need to change my reality and go to London and be like, you know what, I love London.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, but London doesn't get that kind of winter, what you're talking about.

[Marley Rose Harris]

But also like, you're also allowed to not like things. Like if you don't like the cold, you don't like the cold, you don't have to suffer. And that's the thing is like, I think it's like, so people move away from pain and they move towards pleasure. Right? So if their reality isn't painful enough, they're not going to change actually, because that's just like what they're used to. But this is actually so. Okay, so your beliefs were created between the ages of 0 and 7. That's when your subconscious mind was open and you took in everything as you know, this young baby. And this became your truth and this became your comfort zone. So this became your financial thermostat. Not just financial thermostat, but every thermostat. So like relationship thermostat, body thermostat, like what you learned and what was normal and consistent became your comfort zone.

[Lauren Everts]

That's interesting that it's. I didn't know that all your beliefs come from zero to seven. Yeah, that's very interesting. So if someone's listening, what are the steps you would take to change their belief? The first one you mentioned was being self aware. Yeah, what's the next one?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Okay, so we're talking about money. Okay. But this can go for any area of life. If you want to manifest relationship, whatever, it covers everything. So if you are wanting to track more money, I want you to take a piece of paper, I want you to light a candle, I want you to close the door and I want you to put your phone on silent and set a 10 minute timer. And I want you to write down what are all my beliefs about Money. And you're going to have a moment where you write some. You're like, something comes to you like, oh, I don't want to write that down. Okay. But you believe it. So you just need to get everything out. Okay. Not writing it down isn't going to make it less believable. Like you still believe it. So we need to get everything out on a piece of paper and that you can look at and you can Do a direct equation of like this is creating a reality. Like you can mirror it thinking.

[Lauren Everts]

So it's like an audit.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, an audit.

[Michael Bostic]

So give me an example of like what people like, you've seen what they write down and like how that audit works.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Marley Rose Harris]

So I would say the biggest limb belief that I see in my practice is wait, guess what it is what to guess. What do you think the biggest. But. But like universally, what do you think everyone's biggest limbing belief is about themselves? I can't wait translates to everything.

[Lauren Everts]

I can't.

[Marley Rose Harris]

They don't have enough confidence on that tone. It's that they believe that they're not enough. That's the biggest thing that I clear amongst all of my. Everyone that comes to me.

[Lauren Everts]

And that's why Louise Hay says in all her meditations to say over and over and over, every day, all day long, I approve of myself.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yes.

[Lauren Everts]

That's interesting that you say that. She never says I am not enough. She says like to combat that, I would think she says to say over and over all day long, I approve of myself. I approve of myself. That's in every one of her meditations. Yeah, that's interesting.

[Marley Rose Harris]

It's exactly why so, so because beliefs don't have like this thing where they're like, okay, I'm only going to show up in relationships and then not money. Like it just over all areas of life. So then if you don't believe that you're enough, then there's also never enough money. Then also your partner never does enough for you. Like it's. And then also your body is never going to look good enough. Like it's. It mirrors in every area of life.

[Lauren Everts]

A lot of that comes from comparing yourself to other people's journey or other people. I think that's where I think that. That because, well, how would you know what enough is without comparing yourself?

[Michael Bostic]

I think it's that for sure. And a lot of people, like society does a good job of trying to humble people consistently.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Exactly.

[Michael Bostic]

And they don't. And people get shamed for bragging about themselves, being overconfident, being their biggest cheerleader. Like people. People want you to humble yourself in front of them. Right.

[Lauren Everts]

I get shit. Whenever I say I think I'm great, I think I'm amazing. But if I don't think that, then who, like, how can I expect anyone else to think?

[Michael Bostic]

Because again, even when you're saying that out loud, there's certain people that will be. They don't it.

[Lauren Everts]

I think everyone should think they're great and everyone should think they're amazing.

[Marley Rose Harris]

That is my, like, if I. My thing is, like, if everyone in this world could just believe that they are more than enough just as they are, the world would be a completely different place.

[Lauren Everts]

I agree with you.

[Marley Rose Harris]

And, and also, okay, so we are raised in schooling in and think about how we're taught in school. When you get your grade back, is it like green check. It's like red, red, red. When you're speaking in front, you're constantly getting audited on how good you are. We are constantly getting audited on how we're not enough. We are programmed to believe our whole lives that we are not enough. Every time, even in, in the class, it's like, okay, who's going to play gym? Who's picking for gym? It's like, oh, the person get picked last. It's not enough. It's like, we are. It's not our fault. It's not like. It's just the fact that we are constantly being compared to others, compared to the media, compared to this perfect, you know, photoshopped person. And if you don't look like this, you're not enough like, that society makes us think that.

[Lauren Everts]

I feel like you have to brainwash yourself. You do. You have to literally. What's that thing? Water board? Your water? Is that what the right word? Like, no, you have to, like, you have to like.

[Michael Bostic]

Waterboarding is a debated form of torture that they use.

[Lauren Everts]

You have to like, delulu. You have to be delusional, and you have to think you're amazing.

[Michael Bostic]

Wait, you're using waterboarding in the Completely wrong.

[Lauren Everts]

You know who I feel like is really a good example of someone who just thinks they're amazing and it. And it radiates out of her. Kris Jenner. Like, you can tell that even before keeping up with the Kardashians. Like, she and Kim too, they, like, they thought, their thoughts, you can tell, were like, the sky is the limit. You can feel that energy.

[Marley Rose Harris]

So that's their belief. So that's their reality. The. The belief is the cause and the reality is the effect. Always. Okay, so sorry, I'm going on tangents, but I'm like getting so excited about this.

[Lauren Everts]

We love a tangent.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay, so if you say something like money is evil, or I don't need money to be happy, what you're doing is you're creat. The cause is now. The effect is basically you will push that away from you because you have created that narrative.

[Lauren Everts]

Or people that, like, there's. There's an undertone sometimes I notice of people that sort of shame other people for caring about money. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Like. Like being like, I don't. I don't need this. I need this. And, like, almost like shaming people who. Who enjoy making money.

[Marley Rose Harris]

T. Harve Eckhart says, yeah, we'll show me their bank account.

[Lauren Everts]

Right? It's almost like you have to. If you want to make money, you can't shame the thing that you want. Does that make sense?

[Marley Rose Harris]

No, exactly. Like most people that I speak to, there's a very rare. Like, they will be very aware of the fact they want a lot of money. Like, I. Maybe because I live in South Africa, it's, like, different. But I think most people, most of the time, whether or not they want to admit it or not, know that they want money. They just feel really frustrated because they don't know how to make more.

[Lauren Everts]

But, but, but that's an affirmation, what you just said, saying, I don't know how to make more money is an affirmation. That's a belief in your head. What I think that is important about affirmations that people have to understand is there are negative affirmations, too. So saying, I don't know how to make. I want more money, but I don't know how to make it, that's going on in the tape and the cassette in your head.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Exactly. So, okay, wait. Perfect analogy. Okay, so if we think about your reality as like a movie projector, okay, the. There's a film and the tape, and the cassette is projecting the movie.

[Lauren Everts]

Exactly.

[Marley Rose Harris]

So the film is your beliefs, and whatever you believe will be projected. So if we think about, okay, we want to change the movie, we're not going to the screen, like, cutting out and, like, adding stuff to the screen. We're going to the tape, and we're removing the old tape and we're adding a new tape to create a new reality. And.

[Lauren Everts]

And that comes up in your energy, too.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Everything. So in my practice, the most effective way to making more money, to creating this reality that you want has come from changing your beliefs. And I've seen, like, I have so many stories I could tell you guys.

[Lauren Everts]

You have, like, amazing stories that have happened.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, but it sounds like the first step is you have to get. You have to take accountability, and then you have to take inventory of what's going on in your life, and then you have to change. Like, if you want something to change, you have to change your beliefs around the things that are not going well in your life.

[Lauren Everts]

I will give an example in my own life of how a limiting belief really affected me.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

And I've talked about this before, so if you've heard it. Sorry. I, after my first baby, gained so much weight in pregnancy. And the tape in my head was, I can't lose weight. This is so hard. This is so overwhelming. I feel so fat. That was the tape that was playing in my head. And the second that I changed that tape, the weight fell off me.

[Michael Bostic]

Of course, you change it to.

[Lauren Everts]

I changed it to, I'm losing weight. Weight is falling off me. And Louise Hay taught me how to do this. This isn't like something that I innately knew. I'm losing weight. Weight is falling off me. I'm. I would imagine myself in the outfit that I would want to wear. I had the outfit hanging in my closet. I would look at it every day. And so I sort of like manipulated my reality like clay to what I wanted it to be. And this pregnancy, my third one, the tape in my head right now is, I'm losing weight. I've gained 30 pounds, so I'm acknowledging what it is, but I'm losing weight. And I think that, that you do. The first step, you're right. Is not. It needs to be a self awareness that you're even having the thoughts or beliefs.

[Marley Rose Harris]

You also have to want it. Like, I'm not here to convince anyone what they want and don't want. Like, if you come to me and you're like, marley, I really want to earn more money. I want to manifest my dream relationship. I want to manifest my dream body. I'm like, okay, I got you. I have the tools to get you there, but you have to want. I think that's also the first step. Like, first step aware that you create your reality and you are fully. The ownership is on you to do this. And then you have to want it. And then once, like, okay, I'm sure that once you start changing the tape, you maybe met out of nowhere this trainer that was going to help you or like found these tools that were supported in that.

[Lauren Everts]

Exactly what happened.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, exactly. But. So there's a part of your brain called the reticular activating cortex. It filters out based on your beliefs. So it filters every reality. So like, if you're in a room and everyone's talking and everyone else, Michael, you'll turn, but no one else is going to turn because that word isn't important to them.

[Lauren Everts]

Right.

[Marley Rose Harris]

So that's your rac. So if you're having that tape over and over in your mind, like, okay, I am so fat or whatever, dah, dah, dah. The trainer and the whatever is not going to come to you because you're, it's not in alignment with your beliefs. So it's unimportant. Another way is, you know when you're looking at a car and like you just start to see that car everywhere and you're like, oh my gosh, like everyone has this car now. That car was always there. It just was never important. So what happens is when you start to change your beliefs, for example, you change. Like I also was just getting by like paycheck to paycheck. And then when I started to change my beliefs and change my beliefs about money, I started to see opportunities where I only saw ways that I couldn't make money. I started to make see ways that I could make money. So when you change your belief, your actual brain filters out what's important, which is incongruent with, or incongruent with what you actually believe. So then you start moving towards things that you believe are true to your point.

[Michael Bostic]

So there's a science behind it. It's not just like woo woo manifestation. It's the way your brain works.

[Marley Rose Harris]

It's the way your brain works.

[Lauren Everts]

It's like opens your channels. I also think when you become obsessed with something, I'll give you an example. If all you're obsessed with is how do I make more money? More money, more money, more money that can, that can, that's almost out of alignment and unbalanced and that can end up hurting you. So if you become, I'll give you another example. If you become obsessed with finding someone, you're not letting it in and letting it get into alignment. So I think the affirmation part's important too. You don't want to become obsessed with money. To me, it's like money is a tool to get me to where I want to go. Which is what's the bigger goal of that? Bigger than the money. Does that make sense?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. So, okay, so I love this point. So whenever I have a client who's like, okay, I really need a relationship. Okay, well why? And, and it's, it's with everything in.

[Lauren Everts]

Life because it's like desperate.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, it's desperate energy. And that repels, as we all know. But you're not actually after. This is actually the interesting thing. People aren't actually after the money. It's the way the money is going to make them feel. The way the Relationship is going to make them feel.

[Lauren Everts]

And that's almost. That's almost like how do you rework that?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Exactly. So I would ask you, like, why do you want a relationship so badly? I want to feel loved. I want to feel supported. I want to feel seen. I would say, okay, that's great. Do that now, like love yourself now. Make yourself feel support. And because you can never. You will always attract what you are. You attract what you are. We're energetic beings. You attract like law vibrate, law of attraction. Like attracts like. So if you want to attract a thing, you can't attract anything out of lack. You can't attract abundance out of scarcity. It doesn't work. If you're in scarcity 247 and you're trying to attract more money, that doesn't work.

[Lauren Everts]

I think the reason we got back together is because you changed your energy.

[Marley Rose Harris]

No, but I had good.

[Michael Bostic]

I always had good energy. You were just like, you were closed. You were.

[Lauren Everts]

I know, but there was a little desperado in high school and you change the desperado. This is not this talk about this experience.

[Michael Bostic]

You don't think I was desperado?

[Lauren Everts]

There was a little like waiting up for me until 5:30 in the morning when I was asleep at 1. Energy.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, I had other girlfriends and other things going on.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay. But then when you got out of that desperado, I was like, I kind of leaned into it.

[Michael Bostic]

So I know, you know how we were the other day.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Grounded self awareness.

[Michael Bostic]

These false narratives. This is a false narrative.

[Lauren Everts]

It's my inner monologue. Welcome to it.

[Michael Bostic]

I remember basically going to. Going to you. This is a true story. Tell me if it's not. And saying, this is the last time you have a chance with me. Are you taking it or not?

[Lauren Everts]

That's. And there was no desperate energy.

[Michael Bostic]

So.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay, true story. True story.

[Michael Bostic]

This is. Okay, we got to work on your narratives.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I'm like trying to think about that. I'm like, so you took back your power, basically. And she felt that. Yep. And then. But, but that's with everything narrative. Also with money. That's with the relationship. If you want something so badly, you can't. You can't attract it from chasing it. You have to become it. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

What I will say, and this doesn't just apply to me or to you or to you or to our producer Carson. Like, everybody knows the people in their lives that are constantly complaining about what they don't have or how hard it is or how bad the relationship is. And we all are sitting Here, either listening or thinking of these friends. And the pattern is a recognizable pattern. It's the same narratives on repeat, Right? It's the scarcity narrative. I can't do this. I'm not enough. Nobody wants that. Like, it's. And it's that over and over and over again. And it's heartbreaking when you're close with someone to watch it. But, like, it's exactly what you're talking about. It's. The scarcity is not going to bring abundance. And the unfortunate thing is, like, getting. I feel like you have to be ready for this conversation in order to hear it. You have to want it. To your point, there's a lot of people, they just. It's like, on repeat until they, I think, get to a point or have a life event where they say, like, enough is enough. I'm changing.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. Like, so I had a client, and she kept attracting partners that would not respect her boundaries. Over and over, it was this theme, and we think, okay, well, I'm just gonna break up with this guy, and then the new guy's gonna respect my boundaries. And the same thing over and over and over and over. So the reason why that happens is because you are attracting that because you don't respect your own boundaries. So when I met her and she actually came to me for money, she wanted to make more money, but her real thing was like, I really just want a relationship. And I was like, okay, well, let's see what's been going on. And. And what? The thing that she complained about most is that men never respected her boundaries. So I just simply asked her, like, where do you not respect your own boundaries? So we had a list. She stopped. She just made pivots and adjustments with all the things.

[Lauren Everts]

What was the list?

[Michael Bostic]

And is it hard for her to hear that message or to go through that with you?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Well, to your point, like, she was ready. Like, she was seeking help.

[Lauren Everts]

She was seeking.

[Marley Rose Harris]

She was seeking help. So she was like, I'll do anything, right? Things. Like, she was working till 4 in the morning. She was going to the gym for four hours a day. Like, she was disrespecting her. Like, disrespecting her boundaries, her body. People would do things and she would just allow it. Like, they would say mean things. Instead of standing up for herself or setting a boundary, she would just allow it. So there's a very large lack of boundaries.

[Lauren Everts]

That's interesting.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, really interesting. She started saying those boundaries, and we cleared her limiting belief that she is disrespected. This Fear of being disrespected. And. And then I have this tool called neural linking. It's how to create a new belief. It's. It's creating a new neural pathway in your brain. And her new neural link is that I am so respected and that I am loved for who I am. Two weeks later, I get a message from her and she met this guy and he literally has been so nice to her and he's messaged her saying, I just want to let you know that I respect you and I respect your boundaries. And then four days later it was like, and I just love you for who you are. And I was like, but like, you can't even make this up. Like, once she changed her energy, it was like physically represented through text messages. And again, it's not a coincidence. It's just you will always attract what you believe. So if you believe in scarcity, you will attract scarcity. If you believe that you're respected and you start respect yourself, you will attract that.

[Michael Bostic]

It's like, it's exactly what I mean. It's like that thing. It's like wherever you go, there you are. And it's what we're talking about early with self awareness is like a lot of people just like really struggle to see themselves from a realistic perspective, right? Like we see ourselves in the way people. But it's hard to step back and truly be self aware and be like, this is not only how I see me, but how the world sees me, me. Right? And until you can do that, I think it's really hard to get to the points you're talking about.

[Lauren Everts]

I also think what you said, if whatever you want to attract, you have to be first. And they teach you this in aa. I think it's like, whatever. If you want someone who's hard working, if you want someone who's disciplined, if you want someone who's funny. I have this friend and I swear to God, he was sitting around making fun of the girls that he was attracting and their teeth, he's like, what is going on with these girls teeth? They're yellow, they look like a snaggle tooth. They're one is brown. Like, I heard him making fun of these girls teeth. And I looked at him and I'm like, bro, your teeth, like literal look. Like, like, I don't even.

[Michael Bostic]

Like, he works at the carnival.

[Lauren Everts]

Like, like, it's like, you can't expect someone to have perfectly beautiful teeth when you don't have the teeth yourself. And that's a physical example. But it goes for like, energy, too. Like, you cannot. My favorite is when someone who is so goddamn unfunny and not witty is like, I want someone who's funny and entertaining. It's like, you sit there like the WB frog. You're not gonna find someone that's tap dancing with jazz when you're as boring as. Like, it doesn't make any sense. If you want someone who's funny and witty, then you have to be funny and witty.

[Marley Rose Harris]

But your friend, sadly, was projecting his teeth insecurities onto these women, and it's not fair, and he needs to heal his own. Like, I gave him my security to address.

[Lauren Everts]

No, because I'm done with these guys. Like that. I. I hear Michael saying, my. Our friends complaining.

[Michael Bostic]

The guys meet our friends?

[Lauren Everts]

No, but it's like, yeah, it's all of our guy friends, and I'll hear them complaining about girls, and I'm like, are you funny?

[Michael Bostic]

Or I've never heard any of your girlfriends complain about guys.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah, well, I would say tell them the same thing. Like, are you funny? Like, do if you want someone who's funny and also, like, my thing, too. And I'm gonna call this out. If you're a woman and you're listening and you're saying that you want some rich man, go be the rich man. Look at Cher. Go be. Go, Go make money, and you will attract money. I really believe that.

[Michael Bostic]

I mean, listen, here's the thing, and this is the truth for everybody. We are hypercritical of others and not nearly critical enough of ourselves. Like, I. I am a firm believer in shame. I know people think that's crazy. I really am. I. I think people don't have nearly enough shame. They're not nearly enough ashamed of themselves. At moments in time. We are very quick to project onto others why they should be shameful and why they need to change their behaviors and why they need to do better. If I see one of these people tell me to do better one more time on the Internet, I'm like, I'm going to go, and I'm going to show up at your door, and everyone's.

[Lauren Everts]

Going to tell you to do better.

[Michael Bostic]

Go. And I'm going to knock on the door with a clipboard and say, I'm here with the team to audit your life, to see how you're doing. But it's true. It's like we're so quick to project outward and. And judge other people, and we're not nearly quick enough to judge ourselves. Like, the way we're living, the way.

[Lauren Everts]

We'Re But Marley's right. There's a production.

[Michael Bostic]

But you get what I'm saying.

[Marley Rose Harris]

It's a reflection. You're actually just judging yourself. So whenever. Sorry to interrupt you, but whenever anyone complains about anything, to me, I was like, okay, you're actually just complaining about yourself, so let's put that back on you. So, for example, so I also have friends that want rich men, right? But it's like, okay, but why do you want that rich man? You actually just want safety because you believe that if you have a rich man taking care of you, then you'll feel safe. They're going to get into that relationship, and they're never going to feel safe because they're trying to fix an inside problem, which is wanting to feel safe on the outside. And what I'm here to share with people is, like, if you actually just believe this on the inside, then you can feel safe, and then you can attract any person from a place of love and actual alignment and actual, like, soulmate connection instead of this needing them to validate this feeling of safety. But, like, I'm sure you heard so many stories, like, it never works out that way. Like, if you're trying to fix an inside problem from the outside. You see this all the time with actually celebrities. They grow up, they don't feel like they're enough. They had some sort of, like, controlling parent that made them feel lack. So then they're like, okay, I'm gonna become famous, and then all these people are gonna love me. Then I'm gonna feel more than enough. Then they get famous and they realize, oh, my gosh, I still don't feel enough. Then they go to drugs and alcohol, hoping that to numb the pain. And we all know that, but that's like. It's like. It all stems from this belief of, like, not feel. This is like, the thing that I feel like, if anyone could take this away from this episode is if you are struggling with not feeling more than enough. If you fix that one thing, if you. If you reprogram that one belief, your whole life will change. Then you'll have more than enough. You start to attract more than enough money, you'll start to attract more than enough love. Like, you'll just have this feeling of peace inside of you and safety inside of you that no one can take from you.

[Lauren Everts]

I think this episode is really important, and a lot of the things you're saying is how I try to live. I'm obviously not perfect at it, but I love all this stuff. It does get called Woo woo all the time. But I don't care. It's, I'm just sharing like what's worked for me. I think what you said earlier about seeing all the people that you're pissed at or you're angry at or you're critical of and looking at them every single night and doing an audit and then see where you do the same thing that's pissing you off. So if you're pissed off, I'll give an example that someone's playing the victim. See where you're playing the victim, like flip it on its head. That's been really helpful for me. If I'm critical in my head of someone, I try to see where I show up as something that they're doing and it sort of gives yourself a self audit.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I think for anyone listening who's like, ooh, this is woo woo. I choose science instead. The thing about science, and again you can is science. What are we looking for? Something that works 100% of the time. Nothing works. There's nothing in this world that works 100% of the time. And in science they used to literally shoot babies up with mercury. Like right, like so science is getting debunked every single day. And so what I like to look at is, okay, what has credibility? Credibility means it has belief and trust. If you are credit, if you are credible or if you have credibility, you have belief and trust. So what do you believe and trust? And for me it's what has worked for me and it's what I've seen work for my client. And I, and I like, I can't not just see where my clients are changing their beliefs and if, let's just look at myself, let's not even involve my clients. Like there is no reality where someone like me from a small town in Ontario, Canada, with 300 people who grew up not having money, who grew up in a home. I mean I love. My parents were doing their best and I acknowledge them for that and I love them for that. I like, I was, I chose my parents. It all worked out perfectly. But like, there's no reason that I should have became a millionaire, right? The reason why that happened is because I change. I chose to change my beliefs. I wasn't lucky. I didn't work harder than anyone else. It was like that was a mere reflection of. I used to believe in scarcity and now I believe in abundance.

[Lauren Everts]

What are the tools that you use throughout the day or in the morning or night to help you really be your highest self? Oh my gosh.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I forgot to even mention the tool that I talked about to change your money beliefs. So this is a really good one. So remember how we were making a list of all of our names?

[Lauren Everts]

Oh, you did? Do you burn the list? No, no, we said light a candle.

[Marley Rose Harris]

No, we're lighting a candle just to, like, set an ambiance.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay, okay, got it, got it.

[Marley Rose Harris]

So. So we're taking that list. And that is a reflection of all of your beliefs about money. And you're gonna see, okay, if you fear the most common money, fear is probably that there's not enough or that.

[Lauren Everts]

You'Re gonna run out.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. Very scarcity. Or that they don't trust money, they don't trust in it to increase. Very common. And I've inconsistency with money. That's a big one. And so on. So this is just a really simple tool that anyone can do at home for free. So I invite you to do that. And then on another piece of paper, you're going to write down the opposite belief. So how is money so consistent? How am I attracting so much money? How is my money increasing? And you write all the opposite belief. And you write that down. And I love actually changing it into something called an affirmation. This, like, levels up an affirmation because if you don't believe that you're beautiful and you look in the mirror every day and you say, you're so beautiful, your. Your mind just gonna say, no, I'm not. Or if you're like, I'm making so much money, your brain's gonna automatically dismiss it and say, no, I'm not. But your brain is actually wired to answer questions. So if you say, how am I so beautiful? Or how am I making so much money? It can't dismiss that because it's a question. And then your reticular activating cortex, what we talked about earlier, is gonna start to find the answer to those questions. Tony Robbins says, if you want better answers, ask better questions. So you begin to write down all the opposite beliefs as questions. So how is money so consistent for me? How am I making so much money? Or how am I now making $4,000 a month? And then you're gonna notice again, maybe with Lauren's situation where she changed her beliefs and then this trainer came out of nowhere. It's like, okay, there's like this referral, or someone comes up with you, a business, business idea. And usually your brain would say no and dismiss that because you don't make money. But now you start to invite things in, and then Things start to change. So I would say that's a really easy tool that anyone can do right now at home that will change their life. And you can don't have to do this with money. This is literally everything.

[Michael Bostic]

We've done episodes where, you know when people say, I don't have enough money. And you say, well, how? Like, what are some things I could do to make a little bit of extra money? And then you're forced to go through that exercise and you're supposed to. You actually like have to go through and talk about the ways and it gets your brain thinking about the possibilities. So I fully agree with that process.

[Lauren Everts]

What is the most amazing success story that you've had?

[Marley Rose Harris]

One of my gorgeous clients came to me and again, she came to me for money. And she started telling me about relationships. And she was like, I think it's gonna be easier for me to manifest a hundred million dollars than my relationship, like meeting my soulmate. And I was like, challenge accepted.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah, but that's an affirmation.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Exactly.

[Lauren Everts]

But.

[Marley Rose Harris]

But don't worry. I'm like, this is like, that's my job. So whatever she believes coming to me, I'm like, it's fine. That's old. That's an old story.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah.

[Marley Rose Harris]

So using my method, the clear, the fear method. Because basically, if you want something, let's say you want to ink, you want to feel in abundance with money, you want to have more than enough money, which is you're not an overdraft every month. Let's just say that as bare minimum, the reason why this is going to shock many people, the reason why you don't yet have that is because you actually are afraid of it.

[Lauren Everts]

I agree with you. So you're like, a relationship would be the same thing.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Everything.

[Lauren Everts]

You're almost. Maybe you're used to chaos and you're.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Afraid your comfort zone is chaos.

[Lauren Everts]

I actually just little tangent.

[Michael Bostic]

I actually.

[Lauren Everts]

To go back to what we were saying, I actually will say that I don't think I was ready for the relationship.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Oh, here we go.

[Michael Bostic]

Did you hear this? Wait. Earlier the narrative was that I was too desperate or.

[Lauren Everts]

Well, you were a little desperate.

[Michael Bostic]

I'm gonna have the team blend these clips together. So you're gonna show the first part of the thing was you saying I'm too desperate. And the next part is you saying you're not ready.

[Lauren Everts]

You were desperate. But feel like I wasn't ready for a normal, consistent, easy relationship. I wanted to go through the chaos.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Exactly. So Michael represented self aware with the period. But Michael represented, like, safety, consistency. And for you, that was probably.

[Lauren Everts]

It was a little boring and maybe.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Not normal and maybe not.

[Lauren Everts]

By the way, I love it now.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, of course, that's what we all understand.

[Michael Bostic]

We talked about this earlier when we were dating. I'm like, like, listen, I'm not going to be that kind of chaotic running around. Like, I'm not going to invite all that when you find that person that's like, I'm not willing to get on the chaos train. Like, I'm not going to do. We're not going to have infidelity. We're not going to blow out fights. We're not going to have the thing where we, like, scream and yell and fight and don't talk and then make up and have good. Like, we're not doing that. And I think a lot of people, like, they want that and there's a way and it comes off. Maybe the person comes off as boring if they're not giving that to them. But yeah, in the long run, like, what do you want?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Well, I. I wouldn't say. I don't. I don't know if anyone wants chaos. I think they're just used to it. It's just their comfort zone, subconsciously.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah, I understand that. I understand that.

[Michael Bostic]

Listen, I don't. I'm not gonna say people want chaos, but it's that thing where it's like, girls like, oh, I date bad boys. You know, like that.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. Because that was what their dad was.

[Michael Bostic]

Or it's like, what? But it's. But what is a bad boy? Does that mean, like, I'm a womanizer and I treat you like shit and I, like, don't come home and I, you know, and I lie to you and I do. Is that like a bad boy, like. Or is that just like somebody you shouldn't be with? Right.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. I think what I see in my practice, that women attract the relationship that they have with their father because that's what's comfortable, unless they've done the healing work around it, because that's what I did until I healed that. And then I met someone that was so safe, so grounded, so consistent family. And I was like, what's going on? Like, I had to actually, like, have that feel safe for me. Okay. So my back to my. I actually have two stories that I really want to tell because one's do with money, because I think a lot of people.

[Michael Bostic]

Did that girl make $100 million?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Not yet, but we're getting to that. So. So. So I was like, okay, what about being in a loving, consistent relationship is scary. That's my question. That's my number one question to all of everyone that I ever work with. Okay? And what it came down to is that she believes if she's in a relationship, she has to take care of the person. Again, this is not conscious. This is subconscious. It's a subconscious pattern because she was ready to believe to take. She has to fix everything. Like, she is responsible for the other person. So subconsciously she was attracting all these people that were, like, needing so much from her, and she was just like, ew, this is the biggest ick. And would just like, push them away. Because she's very independent, she's very capable. Like, she doesn't need to be taking care of herself and someone else. So using my method, we cleared that fear that she is going to have to take care of someone else and feel responsible for them. And it literally goes to the first moment that you create the belief. We reprogram the story and it creates a new belief, Belief in your subconscious mind. And two weeks later, she's messaging me being I met someone. I was like, oh, my gosh. Wow, that's amazing. Two months later, they're literally engaged. And she's like, I met my soulmate engaged within two months of cleaning this belief.

[Lauren Everts]

So did you tell her that she owes you a hundred million dollars?

[Marley Rose Harris]

Well, now I was like, okay, check. That was easy. Let's go to the $100 million now. Okay. Another story. So this I think, will be more relatable because we're talking about money as well. So I had a client that was constantly in overdraft, and she came to me and she's just so frustrated. She's constantly an overdraft. Like, and this is very common. People will like, make, let's say $500, but then a $500 bill will come up. So it's like, it's constantly this up and down, this feast and famine energy. I see a lot. So people have the money, then it goes and have money.

[Lauren Everts]

Well, they like taking it to the edge.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah, well, it. And they're addicted to this just enough. It's. It's these pattern of always just having enough.

[Lauren Everts]

That's interesting.

[Michael Bostic]

We get pushback. When you say that to people, when they're saying, like, they're just. People are addicted to just enough.

[Marley Rose Harris]

No, they're like, you're right.

[Lauren Everts]

No, because the people that are coming to you are ready for it. Yeah, that's the thing.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Like, and I.

[Lauren Everts]

That's why she's not Gonna get pushback. Because the people that are seeking her out are ready for the conversation, which is great for you. Go ahead.

[Marley Rose Harris]

But that's what I'm ready for. Like, I'm ready for people who want to change. Like, that's what makes.

[Michael Bostic]

Out of context. People would be upset about. About it. Like we put it on social. Like, I can see it now. Like you put that. What you just said on social and you say, pete, what was it again?

[Marley Rose Harris]

People are addicted to just being enough. No, no, but it's just having enough. But the thing is, I want to say, and make this very obvious, it's not their fault. It's not like they're like purposely feeling this way. They got taught this growing up, and it's embedded into their subconscious. As a child, they took it on. And now 35, 45, 55 years later, they're just believing this belief over and over. And it's not like they're choosing it. We can't. We can't just say, oh, this is a belief. And I just don't want to believe this today. It's a. It's a habit. It's an identity. You can't just like, wake up and be like, okay, I'm gonna change my name from Marlene tomorrow. I'm gonna be Samantha and just be. Change my whole identity. Right. Like we're. We identify with these beliefs. It's our identity. And so it's. It's like not your fault if you believe this. It's something that you have learned. It is a behavior that you've been picked up and have been taught, but it's not your fault.

[Lauren Everts]

But it is. Is someone's fault if they aren't. If they don't become aware of it and hold themselves accountable.

[Marley Rose Harris]

It's your choice to continue to believe it, but it's not your fault that you are. It happened to you, right?

[Lauren Everts]

So it's not their fault. It's not your fault that it happened to you. But it's your due diligence to take accountability and be self aware to change it.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I think so.

[Lauren Everts]

So what happened to the girl in Overdraft?

[Marley Rose Harris]

So we're on the call and I asked her, like, what is scary about having more than enough? And she had this fear of guilt, this fear that if she had more than enough that she was gonna lose someone. And that's very common with money. Like, I had to clear that myself. I had a. And we can get to that. Maybe I'll be my third story of how I made a hundred thousand dollars In a week after clearing one belief. But I went to that client and I was like, okay. She had this fear of if she had more than enough, she felt guilty. Like, like someone. She was gonna have this dose of disloyalty from her family. And you have to remember, in the subconscious, nothing is logical. There's no, like, logical sense. It's all illogical because it's basically like a child brain.

[Michael Bostic]

Right.

[Lauren Everts]

I understand that she felt guilt around making a lot of money.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. So we went, using the method, using clear the fear, we went back to the exact moment, and it went to her, like, literally on a playground. And she was surrounded with all of her best friends, and they were all making fun of kids who had money.

[Lauren Everts]

Huh.

[Marley Rose Harris]

And so we rewrote that story. We recreated the new belief, and on the call, she got an email from a new client, which was £3,000amonth, which automatically put her out of overdraft. Moving forward again doesn't always happen that instantly, but when you change your belief system, it opens up a new reality. And that just, like, happened instantaneously, which was so incredible. But I'll finish it off with my. One of my. I've had to heal many limiting beliefs around money, and I still am. Like, at every new level, I'm noticing, okay, there's new, like, healing is like an onion. Like, I'm noticing as I'm increasing and growing that there's always new things to heal.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, I was going to ask you a personal question. For someone who's come from humble beginnings to now having the success you've had, like, how much did that actually change your happiness? Like, I'm sure it contributed, but. But to your point, like, there's a lot of people that get to that next level that aren't happy, right?

[Marley Rose Harris]

That's such a good question. So it was actually very early on that, like, when I hit my first $10,000 a month in business, I was living in Australia. I had an oceanfront apartment. I had everything in my life that I had dreamed of at that moment up until then. Like, I had made it to the point, and I was like, oh, wait, I'm still dealing with anxiety. I'm still dealing with the loss of my father. I'm still not happy every day because I thought that if I had money, that everything would go away. Like, I. It would solve all of my problems and I would be super happy and everything would be great. And although money does solve money problems, I think after a point of, like, having needs met and, like, not having to worry about money. I personally don't believe it has a diminishing return. I don't believe that it makes you that much happier. Because what I value now is so. Is not. Is. Is honestly like family and is feeling safe. And having a regulated nervous system is having, like, a safe home that's surrounded by trees. Like, that's what makes me happy. And. And being surrounded by a family who I feel loved by and loves me is, like, the richest that you can ever be, in my opinion. So I love giving people the tools to make enough money to do whatever they want, travel, da da da da da. But at the end of the day, I think what I'm really here to help people know and inspire people to do is, like, not to settle, not to give up on their dreams, and not to think that just because you have this desire, you're not capable of achieving it.

[Michael Bostic]

There's. There's that quote by Jim Carrey, of all people, and he was saying, like, I hope everybody gets rich and famous so they can realize that it's not the answer. Like. Like, he's like, I hope everybody experiences as mo most richness as much fame as they can have, so they realize it's not the answer. And I think, like, to your point, many people that struggle with money think that once they have money, it'll solve all their other problems. It solves the money problems. And I'm not gonna listen. Once you have your basic needs and groceries and can take care of your family, like, there is a certain level. Level of satisfaction and stress release and happiness that comes from that, but there's still all the other things that you're going to have to deal with as a human being that money cannot solve.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. So I was in a business launch, and it was, like, day three, and no one had purchased. And it was just so weird. I was like, what's going on? Like, this is abnormal, you know? And I was like, oh, wait, I literally teach this stuff. Let's do what I do best. What I would do to someone else, I do to myself. So I went to the beach, and I asked myself, like, what about earning money right now? Feels scary. And I realized that at this time, I was, like, newly in my relationship, and I realized I had this fear that if I made this money, I was gonna push my partner away.

[Michael Bostic]

Huh.

[Marley Rose Harris]

And I would never do anything ever to, like, purposely push him away because I love him so much. And so I went back with my method, and it came to this point as from a young age. When I was younger, the Only I made up this belief that money makes people leave, because when my dad went to work, he left. And so when my dad went to go make money, he would leave. And so I made up this limiting belief when I was a young child that when there's money involved, people leave. Huh. And so I cleared that limiting belief, and then within seven days, like, everything took off, and I made $100,000 cash in seven days.

[Lauren Everts]

That's interesting that you say that, because when I say to my daughter, I'm like, I'm going to go to work. I love my work. I have to go make money. I don't want her to associate that with me leaving. That's so interesting. Whack a mole. Anything you say to a child, by the way, you, like, you're like, did I say that wrong? It's. You want to make sure you say it right, because you're right. One little thing that you think is, like, lays on fair, and, like, just casual talk can have an effect for a lifetime.

[Marley Rose Harris]

I, like, I hear what you're saying, but you love what you do. Your family is super safe. You have a loving home. Like, that feels aligned. Like, that feels good.

[Lauren Everts]

Well, I will tell a personal story I was telling my daughter for a while. I'm so sorry. I have to go to work. I really want to be with you, but I do have to go to work. And I talked to Emma Greed, who has four kids, and she was like, lauren, change it to Mommy loves what she does. And I'm so excited about work, and it gives me so much purpose. So I'm gonna go do what I love, and that's what I do now. And it's a totally different conversation now. Yeah. When I leave, she's like, oh, mommy's gonna go do what she loves to do. That lights her up.

[Michael Bostic]

Because kids get worried about you.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah. Because it's like. Yeah, because I was saying before, like, oh, I have to go to work. I'm so sorry. So I was almost, like, giving, like, a negative energy towards work. Yeah. But it's so true. Like, the way you say it is so important.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Well, children take everything personally. So, like, as a young child, if my dad left for work, I wouldn't. I didn't have that. No one told me, like, oh, I'm just going to work. Like, I still love you. It would just be like, oh, leaving. And then. And then I was like, oh, my God, there's something wrong with me. So it created this belief for, you know, up until I started doing this work is that, like, oh, I thought something was wrong with me because when my parents left or when there was an argument, I didn't think that, oh, they're arguing about something that's not to do with me. You and all children do this because they don't have the conscious mind to rationalize. They just take it personally and they think, oh, I've done something wrong, this is to do with me, this is my fault. So I'm going to take this on as a survival mechanism to feel safe. And then we hold that until we change it.

[Lauren Everts]

So you cleared that belief about your partner and you ended up doing a hundred grand in a week.

[Michael Bostic]

Tell us about the app because I know you have clients personally, but what, what can people expect on your app?

[Marley Rose Harris]

So the Higher Self app is for you if you want to reprogram your Limiting the Belief is the first subconscious reprogramming app that on the market. And it's a daily ritual. So every morning we need to recalibrate our brain to what we do want because, like we've been talking about all day, if not, we will go back to those automatic habits of not enough, etc. Etc. And so we need to start every single day with reprogramming and recalibrating to what we do want. So I see this app as your daily ritual to creating a life beyond your wildest dreams.

[Lauren Everts]

So it's just like a check in.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. So we have something called Clear the Fear, which is the method I created to clear limiting beliefs in 22 minutes. So we have like a hundred in there. So basically all the most common limiting beliefs that you have are in the app to clear those. And then we also have recalibration. So these are my version of meditations. And these recalibrate you to what you do desire. So if you want abundance, your dream body, if you want to feel, feel peace, if you want to heal your nervous system, any state that you desire to be in is in the app. And we recommend swapping it for your morning meditation to actually instead of to really just recalibrate you to that reality. And we have four custom tracks for a Skinny Confidential collection that we made.

[Lauren Everts]

Cute.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

So you guys can go to the Higher Self app, Skinny. And that's so nice that you gave them four months for free. That's amazing. Everyone should go do that. And if someone wants to come talk to you direct, how can they find you on Instagram?

[Marley Rose Harris]

So I'm everywhere at MarleyRoseHarris and yeah, send me a DM. I love to chat and I'M here to help.

[Lauren Everts]

I got so much out of this conversation. I think what you're doing is so important, and it really. You are right. It does start with your beliefs. And that can completely transform your life. It's very like, it's very. Awaken the giant within. Louise Hay vibes. All the good vibes.

[Michael Bostic]

Lauren, you had a breakthrough. You realized that you were chaotic and that you were just like pushing my consistent.

[Marley Rose Harris]

Yeah. You had a fear. It was just a fear.

[Lauren Everts]

I totally had a breakthrough. And I wish my husband could have had the same breakthrough and been self aware enough to understand that he was desperado. Marley, thank you so much for coming on.