Jesse Solomon On The Truth About Summer House, Surviving Cancer Twice, Dating In The Public Eye, & Life In The Spotlight

Summary

The Bossticks Podcast

Episode: Jesse Solomon On The Truth About Summer House, Surviving Cancer Twice, Dating In The Public Eye, & Life In The Spotlight
Date: May 14, 2026
Hosts: Lauryn Bosstick, Michael Bosstick
Guests: Jesse Solomon, with Kristin Cavallari

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Episode Overview

In this dynamic and candid episode, Lauryn and Michael Bosstick (joined by Kristin Cavallari) sit down with Jesse Solomon—musician and breakout reality star of Bravo’s “Summer House.” The conversation covers the whirlwind of life in the spotlight, the complex relationships and betrayals currently rocking the Summer House cast, Jesse’s journey through surviving cancer twice, the challenges of touring as a sober performer, dating in the digital era, and maintaining gratitude and mental health amid public scrutiny. The tone is open, humorous, and direct, with plenty of behind-the-scenes revelations and practical life lessons.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Navigating “Summer House” & Public Drama

[00:10 - 19:50]

• Reality TV Pressure & Friend Betrayals

  • “You just kind of show up and try your best to be yourself with giant cameras in your face.” (Jesse Solomon, 04:29)
  • Jesse details the emotional fallout from recent betrayals among castmates: “It all kind of spirals quickly, and, like, that's what creates a good show, I think. But our show is based off of genuine, real friendships.” (04:29)
  • The trust breach: Two close friends secretly hooked up, fracturing deeply connected relationships.
  • “It hurts deep when you get lied to by people that you're, like, really close friends with.” (Jesse, 05:45)

• The Impact of Filming & Proximity

  • Jesse likens the Summer House dynamic to a “fishbowl” intensified by cameras, where proximity accelerates relationships and conflicts: “You end up dating the people that you're spending time with … proximity is a big factor in relationships.” (09:19)
  • Kristin humorously tries to map out the relationship web, highlighting how convoluted things can get.

• Andy Cohen’s Perspective

  • Jesse shares that even Bravo’s Andy Cohen was rocked by the season’s drama: “He actually sent me a nice text after the reunion because he saw, like, how hurt I was ... That was, like, one of the more intense reunions I've ever done.” (11:32)

• Public Reception & The Limits of Editing

  • “There's 42 and a half minutes and we're in the house for 48 hours. Like, you don't see everything. And then there's our real lives outside of the house.” (Jesse, 13:57)
  • Cast expresses frustration at being misunderstood by viewers who lack full context.

Notable Quotes

• “You get so normalized to every step forward that you take ... you have to remember where you started." (Jesse, 29:40)
• “What the cast was wanting at the reunion was some genuine accountability and no ego.” (Kristin, 19:42)
• “He’s not apologetic … there’s not accountability.” (Lauren & Kristin on West, 17:15-17:19)

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2. Performing, Touring, and Sobriety

[01:11 - 03:01, 40:00 - 41:16]

• Tour Life
  • Jesse is on a 17-city music tour, balancing performance demands without the stereotypical partying: “I'm on a show about partying in the Hamptons ... but I just can't take that ever [alcohol]. I want to give it my best.” (Jesse, 01:36)
  • Discusses the toll of constant travel, vocal maintenance, and discipline: “With the flying, the driving, dehydration, like, difficult.” (Jesse, 01:40)
  • Touring as a single artist, maintaining healthy habits (hydration, voice care, no alcohol).

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3. Dating in the Public Eye

[03:01 - 19:50, 51:40 - 54:24]

• Single, With a Crush (But Not on Show)

  • Jesse admits he’s single, with a crush who is not part of the show: “I hope this summer this crush isn't being as reciprocated as I would like.” (Jesse, 03:36)
  • Jesse avoids playing games (“If I like you, you'll know it.” 03:56), and he’s quit dating apps, finding the endless options overwhelming and unfulfilling: “I think like it's nice to feel like you have a few options, but I think that much optionality becomes really confusing.” (Lauren, 53:18)

• Lessons in Respect & Consent

  • Shares how Sierra taught him that his approach—seeking a friend’s blessing before dating his ex—was objectifying, prompting him to reflect and change: “She taught me a good lesson that, like, you can't just be cavalier in the way that you go about dating.” (Jesse, 08:12)

• DM Culture & Connection

  • Jesse says he prefers introductions through mutuals rather than cold DMs: “If there's somebody that I'm interested in, I'll ... [reply to their] story. But I try to get an intro and I'm off the dating apps at this point.” (Jesse, 52:38)
  • Comic moment: hosts debate the best emojis for sliding into DMs—Jesse: “If you go in [as a man] with an emoji, you can’t do that.” (54:02)

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4. Surviving Testicular Cancer (Twice) & Mental Health

[24:54 - 34:03]

• Jesse’s Cancer Journey

  • He shares a frank account of being diagnosed at 24, losing a testicle, and then facing a recurrence a year later: “I had one of my nuts taken out, and then a year later, it spread to the lymph nodes… four rounds of chemo and went bald and the whole thing.” (Jesse, 24:59)
  • The diagnosis came from a routine check—“I heard my Jewish mother in the back of my head, like, go get your annual physical.” (Jesse, 25:26)
  • The fear and surrealism: “I was like, where's Ashton? Am I getting punked right now?” (Jesse, 25:54)
  • The importance of positivity and support: “I think that's, like, really the only mentality you can have going into something like that is to try and be positive and do everything you can to fight it.” (Jesse, 27:20)
  • The aftermath: shifting perspective, gratitude, but also grappling with mental health dips despite positive outcomes—“There was this weird guilt for not being as happy as I once was.” (Jesse, 27:47)

• Gratitude & Life Lessons

  • “The journey is the best part. Having a family will be a really fulfilling experience ... but I look back on this period and be like, that was the most fun I ever had.” (Jesse, 31:24)
  • Lauryn: “Money solves money problems. That’s about it.” (31:39)
  • Practice of gratitude is emphasized through tough times—“…that's why they call gratitude a practice, because you have to keep … if you miss a couple days … you would struggle with your mental health later on.” (Kristin, 28:51)

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5. Giving Back: Sunrise Day Camp

[32:07 - 34:22]

• Jesse shines a light on the camp for kids with cancer (and their siblings), calling it a highlight of his summer: “A lot of the counselors were former campers and it's just like a really great family. So I'm just grateful to them for like opening up the camp to us and being able to, to show what they do.” (Jesse, 32:12)
• He’s begun performing and volunteering at hospitals and is moved by the ability to inspire and support children battling illness.

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6. Physical and Mental Wellness Practices

[39:21 - 41:16; 54:27 - 56:59]

• Health Habits

  • Jesse details his daily wellness: regular workouts, clean eating, using an Oura Ring, specialized hydration routines, vocal cord care, and sparing alcohol: “I workout every day ... I eat clean ... every morning I make, like, this big hydration drink of, like, colostrum and electrolytes and a whole bunch of stuff.” (39:29)

• Wellness Advice

  • Kristin shares advice from a medical expert: “You should be eating broccoli sprouts every day, he said, especially if you're a man.” (Kristin, 55:36)
  • Lauryn cautions on reputation: “I think it's really important to keep an intact reputation that can carry you into whatever your next version of your career is ... being well-liked and having a strong reputation and having integrity.” (56:12)

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7. Music, Creativity, and Next Steps

[41:16 - End]

• Jesse is reveling in his music career, with sold-out tour dates and viral songs on TikTok: “At my show last night, everybody sings the words. … what a cool thing.” (49:32)
• Jesse writes all his songs, drawing from real-life experiences: “I write songs about my real life experiences.” (Jesse, 50:41)
• Fans tell him he’s inspired them to pursue their passions: “You inspired me to leave my job and do what I’m passionate about.” (Jesse, 49:41)

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• “If I like you, you’ll know it, and if you like me back, we’ll go on dates and hopefully become something more than friends.”
  — Jesse Solomon, 03:56

• “You can't just be cavalier in the way that you go about dating.”
  — Jesse Solomon, 08:12

• “I was just, like ... shocked. And then you always have this, like, voice in the back of your head that's like, what if you're one of the unlucky ones?”
  — Jesse Solomon, on his cancer diagnosis, 25:54

• “You get so normalized to every step forward ... you have to remember where you started.”
  — Jesse Solomon, 29:40

• “What the cast was wanting at the reunion was some genuine accountability and no ego.”
  — Kristin Cavallari, 19:42

• “Money solves money problems. That’s about it.”
  — Lauryn Bosstick, 31:39

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Timestamps by Topic

• 00:10 – 19:50: Summer House drama, friendships, and the emotional fallout
• 01:11 – 03:01, 40:00 – 41:16: Touring life, performance, and sobriety
• 08:12 – 10:00: Lessons in dating and respect
• 24:54 – 34:03: Jesse’s cancer journey and mental health
• 32:07 – 34:22: Sunrise Day Camp and giving back
• 39:21 – 41:16; 54:27 – 56:59: Wellness routines and health advice
• 49:27 – 51:40: Music career, songwriting, and connecting with fans
• 51:40 – 54:24: Dating culture, DMs, and relationship overwhelm

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a rich, raw, and insightful look at navigating chaos both on reality TV and in personal life. Jesse’s vulnerability about his health, friendships, and ambitions grounds the episode, while the hosts’ curiosity and banter keep things lively and honest. The biggest takeaways: be true to yourself even in the spotlight, maintain gratitude despite setbacks, and that the real journey (in love, health, and career) is what matters most.

Find Jesse Solomon's tour dates: JesseSolomonMusic.com
Instagram: @jessesol

Hosts' advice for Jesse: Eat your broccoli sprouts (seriously), maintain your integrity, and keep using your platform to give back.

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Transcript

[Lauren Bostic]

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostic.

[Jesse Solomon]

Together, they are the Bostics.

[Michael Bostic]

Summer House is all the rage. I mean, it is all over the news. And on this episode, we sat down with Jesse Solomon. Not only is he a rock star right now when it comes to reality television, he. He also has a really compelling story that I'm excited to share with you guys. On this episode, Jesse opens up about navigating his life in the spotlight, overcoming testicular cancer, and he emphasizes the importance of gratitude and mental health. With that, let's welcome Jesse Solomon to the Bostics.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I am a super fan of Summer House. I've watched every single season. I could dissect it like a cadaver on the table. I was saying, like the game operation that you used to play when you were little. I will pull the funny bone out like I can. I love watching the human dynamics of it. I'm obsessed. It's not just the reality TV that I wanted you on the show for. There's so many different facets of you that I find fascinating. And you just played a concert last night until what time?

[Jesse Solomon]

Well, the show went from about 9 to 10, and then I got to meet everybody after for probably almost an hour. And then we packed up all the gear, took the sprinter van back to the hotel, and went to Waffle House. And no alcohol, no booze. And I feel bad because people will buy me shots and stuff, and I'm just like, I just can't take that ever.

[Lauren Bostic]

Or, like, you're done.

[Jesse Solomon]

No, I mean, I'm on a show about partying in the Hamptons.

[Lauren Bostic]

When you're doing that, you're. You're taking it easy.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. I just figure, like, it's. I've got a lot of work to do, and I want to give it my best. And I'm already having trouble giving my best performance every night with all the travel, singing for an hour at a time. Like, I trained a lot to get to a place where I can sing for an hour at a time. Well, but it's still, like, with the flying, the driving, dehydration, like, difficult. Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

When you go on this show, did you have the strategy of wanting to do music?

[Jesse Solomon]

No. I've sang my entire life.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay.

[Jesse Solomon]

I went to music school at the University of Miami, and I got. We can talk about my career path and how I got here. But I went into the show thinking, oh, maybe I'll launch, like, a consumer product at some point. I didn't think I would launch a music Career, but it just was, like, the thing making me happy and what I wanted to do. I'm on a 16. We just added a show in Atlantic City. City. 17 city tour.

[Lauren Bostic]

So what number two. What number on the tour was this show last night?

[Jesse Solomon]

Last night was show number six and. Oh, damn, you're just getting into it after this podcast. I'm so blessed to be here with you too. Thanks for having me. I'm driving to Dallas, the van, the band is picking me up, and I have a show in Dallas tonight.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And are you single on this 17 city tour?

[Jesse Solomon]

Am I single?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. So single. No attachments?

[Jesse Solomon]

None.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's nice.

[Jesse Solomon]

I have a crush.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You have a crush?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But here's my thing. When guys say you have a crush. Let me talk to you about this.

[Jesse Solomon]

Good luck.

[Kristin Cavallari]

When you say that you have a crush, that could insinuate the crushes in New York or San Diego. Maybe you have 10 crushes, and the crush that's listening thinks they're the crush.

[Jesse Solomon]

I'm not saying this for her. I'm just talking.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You have a crush.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I don't think she's listening, but

[Kristin Cavallari]

she's not on the show.

[Jesse Solomon]

No.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No more crushes on the show.

[Jesse Solomon]

I hope this summer this crush isn't being as reciprocated as I would like. So we'll see where it goes.

[Kristin Cavallari]

The guy always ends up falling in love with the girl that doesn't like him back.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, she's. She's playing the game well. Yeah, unfortunately, I don't like to play games.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You don't like to play games?

[Jesse Solomon]

No. No, no, no. I'm not. Like, I'm gonna wait to text back. Like, if I like you, you'll know it, and if you like me back, we'll go on dates and hopefully become something more than friends.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How do you manage going on the show? That. That is like, the. I feel like you guys are, like, the rock star of Bravo right now. So, like, you're on this show that's like, everyone's watching it. And then you also have your real life, and you're touring, and you say you have a crush. How do you manage balancing all of that?

[Jesse Solomon]

The show is based off of our real lives, so you just kind of show up and try your best to be yourself with giant cameras in your face. So I would say that's like, my main objective is don't do anything I wouldn't do in real life, because I'm on Summerhouse. Obviously, like, you're in this microcosm and relationships Happen faster. Friendships get deeper quicker. You're talking about really vulnerable stuff. So it all kind of spirals quickly, and, like, that's what creates a good show, I think. But our show is based off of genuine, real friendships, and it's not just like a show friendship. I think you can feel if it was fake, and I think that's why what just happened was, like, so ground shattering. Like, hurt everyone so bad because we had such a good thing going. And for our friends to just, like, betray our trust really hurt everyone. Not to talk about that whole situation. But does that mean.

[Lauren Bostic]

So, like, can people go back now and continue to do the show? I'm like, I'm in, but I'm not as in. I'm on the outside. I'm watching all this now, and I'm hearing about. Obviously I hear about all of this. Like, can. Can you guys be like, all right, back to work, or.

[Jesse Solomon]

I think it's going to take time to repair the. The trust that's been lost, if possible. It's been tough for me because I'm kind of like, friends with everybody. Obviously, like, Sierra and Kyle are the people that deserve the. The sympathy here, not me. But, yeah, just, like, hurts deep when you get lied to by people that you're, like, really close friends with.

[Kristin Cavallari]

When you had the epiphany of realizing that that two of your best friends were hooking up behind everyone's back, were you. Was it, like, gut punched? How did you feel?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I'd been hearing the rumors for a while, so I wasn't, like, surprised, but I was kind of, like, shocked that they would lie to me. Yeah, it was really upsetting.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I was trying to explain it to my husband, and I'm like, it's like if you and I lived in a house.

[Jesse Solomon]

I love when people try to explain it, it's, like, so dreadful.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's hard to explain. But I said if I was. He has a best friend named Weston. If I was, that makes things easier. Sex with Weston. And then the girl that Weston used to have sex with and date.

[Jesse Solomon]

Was your best friend.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Was my best friend.

[Michael Bostic]

Right.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Did I explain it right?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. I mean, it's like you have two couples, they both break up. Two people hook up with each other, and you've got these, like, friends that are left in the crosshair. Crossfire.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

And, like, everybody's getting hurt for a different reason.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

Like, west and Kyle were friends, too. People are forgetting that, like, that was one of his buddies.

[Podcast Sponsor/Ad Voice]

So wait, the guy's name is Wes?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, no.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's West.

[Podcast Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Oh, West.

[Lauren Bostic]

Now I'm gonna get really fucking confused because I just. Because now I'm thinking about Weston, but it's West.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Just don't. Just don't get involved. How do you feel? And I'm sure you feel happy about how Sierra has been received by the public.

[Jesse Solomon]

I guess that's a silver lining of this whole situation happening to her.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

Sierra is a really good person. She cares a lot about her friends. She's taught me a lot of, like, good lessons of things that, like, you just wouldn't typically think of as a boy. So I'm just, like, grateful to her, and I'm glad that everybody else sees how amazing she is.

[Kristin Cavallari]

What's a lesson that she's taught you?

[Jesse Solomon]

Well, I mean, this summer, this past summer, I thought I was doing the right thing by checking with my buddy to see if he would be upset if I pursued his ex. And I didn't realize that that could make her feel objectified. She obviously means way more to me than just, like, somebody I would want to hook up with. And so I never meant to make her feel that way. And it really hurt me to see how upset she was. I wish I had spoken to her first, and obviously I was going to have a more serious conversation with her after I had talked to west about it. She taught me a good lesson that, like, you can't just be cavalier in the way that you go about dating.

[Lauren Bostic]

And does this stuff get real messy just because you guys are in such close proximity and there's maybe nobody else around? Is that what happens? You're, like, in a fishbowl with all these cameras, and you're with each other all day long, and so everybody's kind of like, oh, well, it kind of reminds me of, you know, when you're in school as a kid, you kind of just, like, date within the school because you're not out. Like, but then this is even more microscopic.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I think, like, proximity is, like, a really big thing. Like, you end up dating the people that you're spending time with. You end up friends with people that are close to you. You fall apart with friends that are in different states over time because, like, proximity is a big factor in relationships. So, yeah, if we're, like, going to the Hamptons and only with each other for 48 hours straight, like, you know, what's one date? You spend two hours with someone. Like, that first weekend in the house, you've already slept under the same roof for all these hours. Like, it's like, if you Hang out with somebody for a full weekend. It's like, what, 10 dates?

[Lauren Bostic]

Yep.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So when you go back to explain to Michael. So Jesse dated one of the girls in the house. You guys sort of. No, you. Lexi.

[Jesse Solomon]

Jesse.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Lexi. Long. This is a long time ago.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You dated one of the girls in the house. Here's my question. Would you do it again in the future, or is that off limits for you?

[Jesse Solomon]

No. Going back to my point about, like, doing what you would do in real life. Like, this is my real life.

[Lauren Bostic]

So, Carson, go get me a whiteboard with a. With a map. I need to.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How do I explain? It's like.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I would. I would definitely date somebody that I was attracted to on the show. I would take it way slower.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay.

[Jesse Solomon]

I just, like, didn't see. That's another lesson Sierra taught me. She's like, slow the fuck down.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

And I didn't see a reason to slow down. I was like, I like this girl. She likes me. We're having a great time.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You guys were cute too.

[Jesse Solomon]

Why wait?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Sweet. Is the crush Kristin Cavallari?

[Jesse Solomon]

I mean, that's a whole separate crush. Yeah, I'm obsessed with her.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Oh, okay. So that's a separate crush, but I

[Jesse Solomon]

think we're just friends.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. Because you guys would be cute.

[Jesse Solomon]

Totally.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I'm just throwing it out there in the ether.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

What do you think, Kristen? Get back to us.

[Kristin Cavallari]

She'll hear this when all of this comes out. How is Andy Cohen involved in all of it? Is he texting you guys? Is he waiting for the reunion? What is his energy on everything that's been going on?

[Jesse Solomon]

I think Andy feels for us. You know, the reunion was really intense. He actually sent me a nice text after the reunion because he saw, like, how hurt I was. And, you know, he. He went on and made that video being like, I've done 150 reunions. That was, like, one of the more intense reunions I've ever done. So, yeah, he's just, like, the facilitator, you know? He does watch what happens. He does the reunion. He's not, like, entrenched in the friend group, but he sees it all.

[Lauren Bostic]

He's like, I'm so sorry for you to be a fucking ratings juggernaut.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Andy Cohen said that that was the most intense.

[Podcast Sponsor/Ad Voice]

I saw that.

[Lauren Bostic]

I'm not that under a rock. I did see that part.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Reunion. That's. That is crazy that he said it was the most intense reunion out of 150 reunions.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I. I cried, like, a handful of times. I was Crying all day. I was a mess. Carl's a mess. I was a mess.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Are you crying because of how this has affected the group's dynamic? Are you crying because you don't have anyone to talk to about this? Very. It's. This is a very specific, niche thing that you guys are going through.

[Jesse Solomon]

I was crying because I hadn't taken the time to deal with the emotions and the lying. And I thought that Wes was going to come to the reunion with something that was going to make people feel better and that we were going to be able to walk out of there not turning the page, but at least having apologized and being able to move forward and like, maybe west and Sierra could somehow, like, take another two year path to being friends again.

[Lauren Bostic]

Who are the people the most upset with? This guy west or the woman involved or both?

[Jesse Solomon]

Both.

[Lauren Bostic]

Both.

[Jesse Solomon]

Who's.

[Lauren Bostic]

Who's. Who are you? Who is the audience more upset with?

[Jesse Solomon]

I mean, I think they're just pretty disgusted with both of them right now.

[Lauren Bostic]

Who should I be upset with? Learned.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think it's a really hard situation. I think there's a lot of layers to it.

[Lauren Bostic]

I'm pissed at both.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And I think also there's a lot of things that we probably don't see. So I think I don't like to

[Michael Bostic]

be the judge and juror.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That doesn't work well. I feel like sometimes the public wants to be, like, judging, and the problem with that is that they don't get to see every single thing. And you could correct me if I'm wrong and be like, no, you've seen everything. But it feels like there's, like, more.

[Jesse Solomon]

No, I mean, there's 42 and a half minutes and we're in the house for 48 hours. Like, you don't see everything. And then there's our real lives outside of the house. So I didn't see everything with Wes and Amanda and I was probably, like, around it the most. And so when your friends are telling you that there's nothing going on and it's easy to just believe them, like, oh, okay.

[Lauren Bostic]

Could you not sense, like, any energy or anything?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, there was like a series of events where I was like, you guys are totally fucking. And they were like, no, Wes is my boy. Like, and Wes is like, dude, you'd be the first person I would tell. I was like, okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Are you afraid to go out in public with them right now?

[Jesse Solomon]

Afraid?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Maybe afraid's the wrong word.

[Jesse Solomon]

Hesitant as a couple. Yeah, of course. I don't want to. It's just like Unnecessary drama in my life. Like, I have this whole tour planned. I'm releasing music, and this stuff all happens, and, like, this becomes the focus. Like, Wes is supposed to come to my show in Kansas City with his family, and I'm like, I don't. Am I supposed to tell him not to come? Like, that's a guy that's been there for me. He's been a real friend. But then again, like, I don't have patience for people who lie and hook up with exes without a conversation prior. Like, that's happened to me in the past. And so I know how it feels if, like, one of your best friends hooks up with one of your exes.

[Lauren Bostic]

So are people giving you shit, thinking that you might have known more than you did?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, he picks up fast.

[Michael Bostic]

He.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I did not tell him that. That's not on the note card.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. That's been a whole thing that I guess I haven't really spoken about, but I kind of just ignore it because I know the truth and. Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

But, yeah, I pick up on that. I'm assuming if you guys were that close and you know how guys are like, we guys are like, you become boys or someone. So that I would assume that people like, oh, this guy must have known. Yeah, that's probably.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, there's less of that now, and I think as the reunion airs, it'll be pretty clear what I knew and didn't know. Amanda apologized to me right away after they released the statement saying, I'm sorry that we dragged you into this.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, because she knew you weren't as aware as people are speaking.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. I mean, she knew. She knew that she lied to me. Yeah. Wes didn't pick up on the fact that, like, I've been getting heat for people thinking that I knew, but it's not a big deal.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You know what I see? Can I tell you my. My dynamic?

[Jesse Solomon]

Hell, yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

There's a bit of a liaison fairness and a blaseness from west that is not. Is what I see the cast in you not liking it feels like instead of him coming and saying, I made a really big mistake and I was out of line and I'm sorry. He. There's a kind of, like, this, like, liaison fair blase ness that I think people are like. It's almost like a beta blocker maybe. Like, it's not an acknowledgment of.

[Lauren Bostic]

He's not apologetic.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. There's not accountability. This is what I see. I haven't seen the reunion.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. Well, he does apologize, but that's Kind of like all he does. Like, he's. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have lied. I know that now you can't believe anything that I say because I lied, but I'm sorry. But he didn't. I mean, Andy even calls him out for it. Like, do you see your friends are like, torn up about this.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's the beta. Like, it's like almost like. It's almost like a detached. He's detached.

[Jesse Solomon]

Well, and he's been off social media and, you know, like, KJ read that text and he's. He said something similar to me. Like he didn't realize the gravity of the situation because he hasn't been seeing all the negativity online. So, yeah, I think. I think you're spot on.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But the problem is, is like, do you have to see the gravity of the public all throwing tomatoes to come with your tail between your legs and say. And actually give a real chance?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, you shouldn't. It's a good point.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I think the reunion, it sounds

[Lauren Bostic]

like, oh, and you're stirring the fucking pot, man. No, no, I hear you. I know what you're doing. Yeah, she's stirring. I know you, Lauren.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I'm. I. I told you. I like Human Dynamics and I like to watch it all. And I think what the cast was wanting at the reunion was some genuine accountability and no ego.

[Lauren Bostic]

Lauren likes to drop a grenade in the middle of the dinner table and walk away and say, oh, no, no, no, Jesse.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I do this thing called prompts. You'll love us. So when we go on vacation, we go with like the same 14 people. And you got.

[Lauren Bostic]

Not every time.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You gotta mix it up. It's kind of like Summer House, but

[Jesse Solomon]

vacation and sounds like a show.

[Michael Bostic]

It's kind of a show. It's a show.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's a fucking show. But the thing is, I do this thing called dinner prompts. And each prompt is something to stir it.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, it'll be like one of our friends will be dating a brand new person or something, and they'll be like, let's go around the table and talk about your craziest sexual experience. And then you just get to watch everybody kind of like.

[Jesse Solomon]

And the couples are probably like. It's just like, that wasn't with me.

[Lauren Bostic]

She does this shit and she does it because she wants to be entertained.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, I like. Yeah, I just. Well, this is why I like reality television. It's like an outlet.

[Jesse Solomon]

No, I think that's a great idea. Who wants to just sit through the same dinner with 14 people every night. No problem.

[Lauren Bostic]

You like go through and everybody gets to kind of like do a topic like that.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, we do that at Summer House.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah. And I mean it's fun. So my point is it's just not

[Lauren Bostic]

film for the world to judge.

[Kristin Cavallari]

My my thing with the reunion is I think they wanted some closure, some accountability, some no ego.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, you'll have to watch the reunion. I mean there's three parts so hopefully you'll see a lot of it. I heard there's three parts I want

[Kristin Cavallari]

to talk about the journey that you've showed separately from Summer House, which is a totally different twist. You just showed yourself working with a camp. That was so cool. I loved that segment.

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[Kristin Cavallari]

You opened up about having testicular cancer.

[Jesse Solomon]

I had one of my nuts taken out, and then a year later, it spread to the lymph nodes, my stomach. And I had four rounds of chemo and went bald and the whole thing.

[Lauren Bostic]

Wow.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How old were you?

[Jesse Solomon]

I was 24 the first time.

[Lauren Bostic]

How do you process that mentally when you're that age? It's got to be so terrifying. Like, what. What's going through your mind to get through that period of time.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I think I felt lucky to have caught it early and the prognosis was really good for somebody in the situation. How did you. I went for a checkup. I went to the doctor in New York. You know, I heard my Jewish mother in the back of my head, like, go get your annual physical. And I went. And the doctor said, I don't think this is anything but. You should probably go get another test. I had like a twinge of pain in my nut, but, like, sometimes nuts hurt randomly. So it was like I didn't think anything of it. And I was traveling around for work and I came back. I was like, oh, I should get that test. I get the test and the. The hospital calls me right away and they're like, come back. And I was like, I did like a STD panel. I did this test, whatever. I was like, I must have chlamydia. Like, my life is over. And I go back to the doctor's office. I was like, all right, doc. Like, I've never had chlamydia. Like, can't believe it. He's like, so you have cancer and we're gonna have to probably give you chemo and radiation and Remove one of your testicles. And once we remove the testicle, we'll know, like, what's next for you. And I was like, where's Ashton? Am I getting punked right now? Like, what is going on? Because I'd lived a very blessed life up until that point, and I still am very blessed, but nothing like that had ever happened to me. I was just, like, you know, shocked. And then you always have this, like, voice in the back of your head that's like, what if you're one of the unlucky ones? But I had great doctors, a great support system. My family and friends were there for me. And you just kind of look at it as, like, this shitty period of your life that you're going to hopefully get through, and you're gonna be better for it on the other side. And that's kind of like how I feel now. And obviously, a lot of people aren't as lucky as I was, but I think that's, like, really the only mentality you can have going into something like that is to try and be positive and do everything you can to fight it the best you can.

[Lauren Bostic]

What does that do for your perspective on life after going through something like that?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, it's been great. I would say that, like, I live every day with such joy, just happy to be alive. And that's like, what my. My tour is called, the Happy to Be Here Tour. And I did start to struggle a little bit with my mental health recently because I was kind of losing that gratitude. And I was like, what the fuck is wrong with me? Like, you are so lucky. You have so much. You're doing so well. You're getting to do what you love to do. Like, why are you not as happy as you used to be after you had just beaten cancer? So just kind of like this weird guilt for not being as happy as I once was. But I'm really good right now, and I'm loving being on tour and, like, doing music, and I feel great. Like, it feels like what I'm supposed to be doing, but definitely, like, there have been some mental battles with, like, the. The whole cancer stuff. Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think that's probably why they call gratitude a practice, because you have to keep. I mean, and it sounds like you do, but it just feels like that makes sense that you would feel like that, because if you don't practice it every day, if you miss a couple days like that, it makes sense that you would struggle with your mental health later on.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. Yeah, I. I haven't heard that as much Well, I mean, I think practice.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Human beings do a really good job of basically forgetting the progress they make. And they feel like, you know, like say that, say you try to climb. I'm just gonna use an easy reference. You climb the mountain, you get to the top of the mountain. That's what, that's what you've been working your whole life for. And then you're there and it's like you take a couple steps back and

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[Lauren Bostic]

But you don't realize that you're still a million steps ahead of where you originally once were. But that little regression feels like.

[Jesse Solomon]

No, totally. You get so normalized to every step forward that you take that you have to.

[Lauren Bostic]

That's why people, as it relates to success and even like financial well being, they think that one day they're going to reach a certain amount of that and then it's going to make them happy. They don't realize, like it just becomes the keep going. Yeah. And then, and then if you, you know, say you make a million dollars,

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if all of a sudden the next

[Lauren Bostic]

year you make a lot less, you feel like a loser. But it's like, don't forget you, you did that. I'm using an extreme example, but people get, you know, like they think that the number is going to solve their happiness. If you can't, if you can't be happy and grateful along the way and throughout the process, it's, it's never going to happen for you.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. And I've always been really focused on making a lot of money and you know, I'm starting to make money. But I do think that I'll look back on this period where I'm like, you know, not like super duper wealthy. I don't have, like, I haven't had some exit in a business. That was crazy that I look back on this period and be like, that was the most fun I ever had.

[Lauren Bostic]

The best advice I've ever heard about money is that money solves money problems. That's about it.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Like it won't solve in internal issues, it won't solve things with your family, it won't solve the way you're great. It'll only take care of financial burdens. And some people say, oh, if I get rid of the financial burdens, I'll be happy. But there's all the other baggage. And personally in my life, the more there's been a diminishing return as you make more and more money. Like there's certain levels where if you can take care, you Know of your bills and you know, not worry about what it's going to cost to go out to dinner and your groceries, maybe take a nice vacation. Like that has a real cascading effect, but after that, like just adding more on top of the pile, you do get a diminishing return. It can be depressing, actually.

[Jesse Solomon]

I think the journey is like the best part. But I do think that having a family will be a really fulfilling experience and having money to do that and just like allow your kids to do whatever they want to do. That'll feel good.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're gonna be a great dad.

[Jesse Solomon]

I can't wait.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, you're gonna be a really, really good dad. I can tell. And it seems like something you're excited about.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

That's what's brought us the most joy of everything, probably is becoming parents.

[Jesse Solomon]

How many?

[Lauren Bostic]

Three.

[Jesse Solomon]

Whoa.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I know.

[Jesse Solomon]

So fun.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's a lot of kids. No, but he doesn't leave me alone.

[Lauren Bostic]

You know the best part about having kids and I think you'll, you'll like this. You strike me as someone who likes you get to basically like live the

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[Lauren Bostic]

like through their perspective.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. I didn't touch on the Sunrise Day Camp.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yes, please.

[Jesse Solomon]

Such an amazing organization. I mean the way that the, the kids are just like so happy and they just like feel like normal kids and they forget about all their problems. It's a camp for kids who have cancer and their siblings because oftentimes siblings are like the forgotten about child in these situations and don't get the same attention to go to a day camp in on Long island completely for free. Cool. And even once they're, you know, have beaten their cancer, are allowed to go for until they go to college, whatever they do. And a lot of the counselors were former campers and it's just like a really great family. So I'm just grateful to them for like opening up the camp to us and being able to, to show what they do. It was like in a, in a summer filled with so much drama, to be able to have that like wholesome moment where we could like give back and show. That was really awesome.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You seemed really happy in that episode.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I think things like that just put everything into perspective and just like what we were talking about, like it makes you realize everything that you do have and how much harder it could be. So, you know, I've tried to volunteer whenever I can, as much as I can. Like I've been able to go to a hospital on tour and sing with the kids and talk to the kids and I'm setting up more of those. So, yeah, I think, like, it's amazing that I'm in a place where me showing up and like, giving my time is like, means something to other people. Like, how cool is that?

[Lauren Bostic]

Super cool.

[Jesse Solomon]

Like, even though these kids might not watch Summer House, like, I don't know, for some reason, like, they think I'm cool.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, but see, that's like the, like, I think that will bring you more joy and happiness than any other stuff that we've discussed is being able to like, build a platform and then have other people be excited about that platform and inspired by it and feel like they're part of something. You know what I mean? Like, a pile of money is nice, but like that what you're doing will bring you way more joy than that.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You opened up on the show. You did a five year cancer free check. Did you decide to open up about that so you could inspire people to also go get a check?

[Michael Bostic]

Or did you just.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Were you just living your life? Life. And there was cameras there.

[Jesse Solomon]

It just so happened that it was. My five year checkup was over that summer. I've always been pretty open about having cancer, so it wasn't something I was going to like, hide from my story on the show. I thought it was going to be like a beautiful moment of like, show up, you know, I. I'd been through four of them with no issue. So there was no reason I thought that year five I would have an issue. And then I remember two weeks before the doctor's appointment, I like felt something change on my left nut on my remaining testicle. And I was like, oh, fuck. Did I just, like set myself up to get cancer again on national television? And I started really freaking out. And then I went to the doctor's appointment and he was like, yeah, so we did the scan. Like, this is what I see. Like, what are you talking about? And he was like, oh, you have two things going on. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm totally fucked. And then they were just like two normal things. One was like a calcium buildup.

[Lauren Bostic]

Jesus Christ.

[Jesse Solomon]

One was like a blood vessel. They're like, you're fine.

[Lauren Bostic]

Putting you through the mental.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, my God, man.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think Too west was there for you the entire time that you died.

[Jesse Solomon]

Totally.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So that's like another dynamic that I think is important to the whole situation.

[Jesse Solomon]

He's been a great friend to me. Like, I know his family, I know that they're all great people. So it's just like a hard thing to grapple with.

[Lauren Bostic]

I don't want to get eaten alive here on this because I'm again, like, give me a.

[Jesse Solomon]

Like, who does?

[Lauren Bostic]

I'm a novice people. But do these shows, in a way, the environments create these kind of situations and even maybe hope for these situations. So, for example, like, Lauren and I would not be good on these. Cause, like, we wouldn't. We would just. We would. At this point, we would not, like, do we have three kids under six? Like, we just wouldn't bring the craziness that we would have maybe when we were in our 20s. But I imagine, like, you know, the producers there, the show, the audience, they want things.

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Maybe not this extreme, but they want things like this to happen.

[Lauren Bostic]

Is there a pressure to kind of

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almost perform and to have.

[Jesse Solomon]

No.

[Lauren Bostic]

No. Okay.

[Jesse Solomon]

I would say that that's a great thing. That I didn't know what to expect when I joined a reality TV show. I don't watch a lot of reality tv. I was like, is this all real? And you show up and Summer House especially, like, they don't say, hey, show up at 3 o' clock at this restaurant. Like, you're gonna film a scene with this person. Like, we're just in this house for 48 hours. So you really let your guard down. Do you forget the cameras are there at night? For sure.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You literally forget.

[Jesse Solomon]

I mean, like, we go out, get drunk, come back, and we're like, eating snacks with our friends. Or like, you forget. Yeah, like, you don't. I mean, sometimes you forget forget. But, like.

[Lauren Bostic]

But you don't turn around and there's like the giant, the camera with the guy standing there at 10 o'.

[Jesse Solomon]

Clock.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Kyle's like, they have surveillance farting on the camera. He must forget. Yeah, Like, Kyle let this huge fart rip on the camera one.

[Jesse Solomon]

You're either too drunk or you're just like, they're just never gonna use this. Like, you're just out with your friends. Like you're having a night out. Like, you let your guard down. Anyways, all I want to say is that the producers were just as upset as the public. And as our friend group was when this all happened, they, you know, we had a really beautiful thing. You'll see, like, leaving the house the last weekend. We'd never been closer. And I think the thing about our show that people love is, like, we are genuine friends. It's not just like housewives bickering the whole time. It's based off of real friendships. So nobody wants to see the friend group fractured like this. So I would say, like, to this extreme. No, the network's not. Like, ratings are up. Like, the ratings were 50% higher than they ever had been before this whole thing happened. So the show was, like, doing as great as it had ever done. So that's why it was. Like. I said to West, I was like, dude, if you're. If this is happening, please lock it the fuck up. Like, why. You don't need to do this.

[Lauren Bostic]

I don't care what anyone says. If somebody in. In the quote unquote viz, that network is tickled to death about what's going on, the ratings are through the fucking roof.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Let's say this. The network is different than the producers kind of.

[Michael Bostic]

Right?

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's like a different.

[Lauren Bostic]

If I put the quote unquote executive hat on, those guys are sitting there on that table licking their chops. They're like, this is great tv. People are tuned in.

[Jesse Solomon]

Podcast, I don't know.

[Lauren Bostic]

The health and wellness podcast is diving into the reality. This is.

[Jesse Solomon]

You know, are we health and wellness?

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, not today we're not.

[Jesse Solomon]

Let's get into that.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I was just going to ask you about health and wellness because I see your aura ring.

[Jesse Solomon]

Hell, yeah, It's.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Tell us about your. What's. Jesse's health and wellness tips.

[Jesse Solomon]

So I. I work out every day.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

Lift.

[Jesse Solomon]

I eat clean. I lift probably four or five days a week. I walk a lot. And every morning I make, like, this big hydration drink of, like, colostrum and electrolytes and a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah, I try to be healthy. Obviously. I'm, like, on the road right now on tour, so, like, I'll get some chicken tenders if that's the only thing around. And, like, I drink alcohol sparingly, but right now I'm not drinking. And, yeah, I do some weird shit on tour. I have, like, this nebulizer that, like, hydrates my vocal cords. I have to be on vocal rest. I'm talking a lot right now because I'm here with you guys.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Sorry.

[Jesse Solomon]

What a treat.

[Lauren Bostic]

Sorry.

[Jesse Solomon]

But typically I'm like, let's get the

[Kristin Cavallari]

whole audience to come and see you on tour.

[Jesse Solomon]

Let's get them out.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So what. What can we expect? And I didn't get an invite last night.

[Jesse Solomon]

That's so fucked up of me.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I would have totally been, like, front row.

[Jesse Solomon]

Well, this is our first time meeting, so you guys. You guys are invited to everything I do for the rest of time.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Love it. We're in.

[Lauren Bostic]

We're in.

[Jesse Solomon]

Oh, I can't wait to be on this 15 person trip that we're gonna go on.

[Kristin Cavallari]

The 15 per.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, you're ready to be on the trip?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, the trip is really fun.

[Lauren Bostic]

He'd be a good trip, mate. Yeah, he's a great trip. I could tell right away you'd be good on the prompts.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Did I not tell? I said on the call. I said you are.

[Lauren Bostic]

Let me tell you something.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You are. He's very. You're very likable.

[Lauren Bostic]

These trips are, you know, they're cast. You got to cast a trip. Well, yeah, you got to be real thoughtful about like you're going to go

[Kristin Cavallari]

on the rock star show. Bravo. He knows how to cast a trip, I'm sure.

[Lauren Bostic]

But you know, like, sometimes I see people do trips with their friends and if it's not casted well, like it could be.

[Jesse Solomon]

I. He's aware after this tour, I've got so much going on that I'm going to Turks and Caicos. I've never been. I might just go by myself.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You know, I will tell you, once you have kids, you are never going to be left alone ever. Like, they will find you. So I think taking a trip by yourself is like, let it rip.

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[Kristin Cavallari]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Lauren Bostic]

The other day I had to go to Santa Barbara by myself for this. I was speaking at this thing and she called me. She's like, oh, my God. Like, are you so sad? Do you miss all?

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My God, it's terrible.

[Lauren Bostic]

I was eating oysters and caviar.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I was dick hanging out.

[Lauren Bostic]

I was laying there in my underpants with a fire going. I was like, this is terrible. I don't know. Like, it was. I was thinking, I was like, this probably the first time in six years that I've just been like, by myself.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Weird.

[Jesse Solomon]

Sounds nice.

[Lauren Bostic]

It was amazing.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You know what, though? Having kids, I'm sure, is like being on reality television because. Oh, similar.

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What?

[Jesse Solomon]

How so?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Because there's a camera in your face, but it's a kid in your face.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, but. No, but the thing is.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, you have to be on.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

Setting a good example.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yes.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, but you're not having the world watch and judge you.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yes, that's true. So where do we go from here? Are you going back next summer?

[Jesse Solomon]

They don't confirm things until, like, very last minute. But there's gonna be a show this summer, I would imagine. And if there's a show, I think I'll be on it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We need you on it.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. It's been such a great thing for my life. I've learned a lot about myself. I've made such great friends. It's allowed me to do music. I mean, the fact that I can hang out with my friends in the Hamptons over the summer and then get to go on tour and make music the rest of the year is, like, such a fun thing.

[Michael Bostic]

Which song should we download first?

[Jesse Solomon]

Guess all starts having a moment.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, it's all over TikTok.

[Jesse Solomon]

Everybody's singing it. I mean, I. At my show last night, everybody sings the words like, what a cool thing.

[Kristin Cavallari]

It's so cool.

[Jesse Solomon]

And people come up to me in the meet and greet and they're like, you inspired me to leave my job and do what I'M passionate about. And I get so many messages like that, like people connecting with the lyrics.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You have a great voice, man.

[Jesse Solomon]

Thank you. Yeah, Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

A lot of you got it. Like, his voice. Your voice is.

[Lauren Bostic]

I wish I could sing. I can't sing a note.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I could sing. I could be a backup.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, Well, I wish I had you. So I. I call people up on stage for my. My latest song. Overrated. You should also check that out. It's about falling in love with your best friend. Sounds like it could have been about you guys. And the singer dropped out last minute. And so I posted on my Instagram, I was like, can anybody come sing? And this amazing girl showed up and she crushed it. She was so nervous. I felt bad.

[Kristin Cavallari]

But she did a good job.

[Jesse Solomon]

But she did a good job. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Who's the best friend in the film?

[Kristin Cavallari]

It could have been me. Oh, I do a really mean Disney, like, rendition.

[Jesse Solomon]

I don't say who I write my songs about.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. But it is about someone.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

I didn't just make it up.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay. The Internet.

[Jesse Solomon]

I write songs about, like, my real life experiences.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I want to do a TikTok with you. Tell me if you like this idea.

[Jesse Solomon]

Love it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Okay.

[Jesse Solomon]

So.

[Kristin Cavallari]

So I look into the camera and I say, you guys, my friend Jesse is going to sing you a song.

[Jesse Solomon]

You better be nice.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You better be nice. Michael doesn't get this because Michael's on a TikTok.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. It's a good trend.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And then you come and you could do whatever you want to do.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. Great.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I think that you're fabulous. I think it's so smart that you're diversifying with your tour and everything that you've got going on. And you have to stay on Summer House as a.

[Lauren Bostic]

You have to go back on now because I have this weir thing where I, like, I am in and out of these shows now.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You're gonna be.

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Once I meet someone now I'm, like, in peripherals.

[Lauren Bostic]

So now I'm gonna be like, when's it on? And I'm gonna tune into every episode, right?

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. Well, there's a good season going on right now. You could start.

[Lauren Bostic]

Because now I feel personally, like, I feel personally vested. Almost like when you have, like, your favorite sports team. Now I'm gonna be like, you know, I'm in.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How can everyone go check out where you're touring? Where can they find you? Where can they say hi? If they're single, maybe they can drop in a dm.

[Jesse Solomon]

My Instagram's.

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What are those dms?

[Jesse Solomon]

Look Like Jesse Saul's. My tour is Jesse Solomon Music Dot com. You can buy tickets and yeah, I'm performing in Dallas tonight. I mean the shows are like, a lot of them are sold out.

[Lauren Bostic]

Nice.

[Jesse Solomon]

We, we just sold out Bowery ballroom. It's like 550 people and the show's not for like two and a half months. Yeah, it's. Life is good. I'm so appreciative of you guys having me.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Who's in your DMs? Is there celebrities?

[Jesse Solomon]

I wouldn't say that. Like celebrities are just sliding into my dms.

[Kristin Cavallari]

A lot of hotties.

[Jesse Solomon]

There's just a lot of people. Men, women, everybody's in there.

[Kristin Cavallari]

All different kinds.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Flattering.

[Jesse Solomon]

It's.

[Lauren Bostic]

Do you slide into DMS or will you.

[Jesse Solomon]

I mean if there's somebody that I'm interested in, I'll. What's story?

[Kristin Cavallari]

You reply the story.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, but I try to get an intro and I'm off the dating apps at this point. Yeah, I think that's like, it's just too much.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah.

[Jesse Solomon]

Too many. Too much optionality. Like I need to focus on one person.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's. That's the key. He always talks about this on the show. He's like, when you have too many options, it's overwhelming.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, no, listen. I mean I only hear. Well actually hear about it now from some minute. But most of my guy friends are like, they get to the point like what you're saying, they get burnt out. It's like they can't focus and it becomes overwhelming and it becomes kind of messy and stressful.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. Just like it's like a full time job.

[Lauren Bostic]

I don't think anyone's good with that much. I think like it's nice to feel like you have a few options, but I think that much optionality becomes really confusing.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. Like I, I could go to a bar and there's like, you know, 50 girls there or you can go on your phone and it's like unlimited. So it's. I got to cut off the dating apps and yeah. Try to like talk to one person at a time. It's like a good place to start.

[Michael Bostic]

Lala Kent said she drops in the

[Kristin Cavallari]

DMs like with this emoji. I thought that was clever.

[Jesse Solomon]

Well, she's a gorgeous woman.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Put it out there. She's single.

[Jesse Solomon]

I'm just saying, like being a guy sliding into girls dms. If you go in with an emoji,

[Kristin Cavallari]

you can't do that.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I can't do that.

[Podcast Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Fisting emoji would Be.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, it's like a. It's like a. You see, people are gonna have to watch YouTube. It's like, I don't.

[Lauren Bostic]

If a guy sending this emoji.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, that's just like. It's a really creepy that.

[Kristin Cavallari]

If I was single, that's. I feel like I would go like this, like. Like, chef's kiss.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, that's what it is.

[Jesse Solomon]

Chef's kiss.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jesse Solomon]

Do you guys have any advice for me just, like, aside from dating and life and maybe, like, wellness, whatever?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Well, I actually do have advice for you, and I was gonna give this to you off air, but I felt really called to tell you this.

[Michael Bostic]

This.

[Jesse Solomon]

Okay.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And I'll say it on air. I was going to tell you off. This is really weird. We had. This is so random. We had a doctor on the show that talked about testicular. Is that how you say it?

[Lauren Bostic]

Yes. Testicular.

[Jesse Solomon]

You learned so much today.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Testicular.

[Michael Bostic]

A lot of testicle.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Yeah, testicular and prostate cancer. And he was someone who studied it for years and years. Super smart guy.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I'll send you his Instagram.

[Lauren Bostic]

Still does study it.

[Kristin Cavallari]

And he said that the number one thing that the prostate and test. Testicular. Testicular cancer cells don't like is sulf. I can't speak. Sulforaphane. How do you say it?

[Lauren Bostic]

I don't know what you're trying to say.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Broccoli sprouts.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, they said that could be. Well, they said that, but they also said, like. And this is really hard to do, but. And it's. There's a million things. I mean, as you know, there's a million things that play into this. But stress is a huge.

[Michael Bostic]

No, wait, wait, wait.

[Kristin Cavallari]

The broccoli sprouts, though.

[Lauren Bostic]

But the broccoli sprouts.

[Jesse Solomon]

I was like, you guys can give me any advice in the entire world.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I'll give you the.

[Jesse Solomon]

What is it? Broccoli sprouts.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You should be eating broccoli sprouts every day, he said, especially if you're a man. What lane do you want?

[Lauren Bostic]

I mean, I don't know, man.

[Podcast Sponsor/Ad Voice]

You seem like you have it together, right?

[Lauren Bostic]

You got a killer tour going on. You're on a show, you're doing well, you're healthy.

[Jesse Solomon]

No, I'm just getting better.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You need to eat broccoli sprouts.

[Jesse Solomon]

I had a call with a nutritionist this week, and they put together a meal plan for me, but, yeah, a lot of whole foods. Not enough sprouts, though.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Broccoli sprouts. I'll get into sprouts I'm going to show you.

[Michael Bostic]

He also has.

[Kristin Cavallari]

There's a supplement and it has the broccoli sprout supplement. I gave it to my dad. Michael's on it. It's really good for men. I don't know why. Last night I was thinking about interviewing you. I'm like, I feel called to tell you to eat broccoli sprouts.

[Lauren Bostic]

I think, like, when I think about people in your line of work that do shows publicly, my only piece of advice is to, like. I think it's really important to keep an intact reputation that can carry you into whatever your next version of your career is. And I've seen a lot of people, like, they can in the world of reality. You can burn that down in the wrong way if you're not careful, you're

[Kristin Cavallari]

doing a good job.

[Lauren Bostic]

I don't know what the advice is, but he doesn't need a very thoughtful,

[Jesse Solomon]

you know, get canceled.

[Lauren Bostic]

It's more of, like, I think people underestimate being well liked and having a strong reputation and having integrity and, like, I think it's hard to come back from that stuff. The other stuff, you can always recover. Everybody makes mistakes. You can say something wrong, but I

[Kristin Cavallari]

think you've done a good job being very sturdy throughout this whole thing. And it's very nuanced and very complicated and complex and no one will understand unless they're in it. So I think you're doing good.

[Lauren Bostic]

Doing great.

[Jesse Solomon]

So much.

[Michael Bostic]

Jesse.

[Lauren Bostic]

And we're coming to a show.

[Kristin Cavallari]

We're coming to a show.

[Jesse Solomon]

I will be come to LA playing the Troubadour.

[Kristin Cavallari]

You got to give me the list

[Lauren Bostic]

because an iconic place.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. Justin Bieber just played there. Warmed it up for me.

[Kristin Cavallari]

That's really cool, man.

[Lauren Bostic]

Nice. It was nice of him to do that for you.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. I'm releasing another song called Wildfire towards, like, the end of May. That's like a big pop anthem.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Do you write your songs?

[Jesse Solomon]

I do, yeah. I'm not big enough where people are, like, coming to me with songs.

[Kristin Cavallari]

No, I put it out there.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

But listen, if you can write your own songs as, you know, like, that's where the real, like, write your own songs.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah, I've got, like, ideas in my head all day. I just recorded the song on the airplane. And a voice memo.

[Kristin Cavallari]

How'd you do? You just, like, whispered it.

[Jesse Solomon]

Yeah. I was like, I hope nobody can hear me. But it's actually, like, a really good idea. I'm excited about.

[Kristin Cavallari]

I see big things.

[Jesse Solomon]

I'm excited.

[Kristin Cavallari]

Congratulations.

[Lauren Bostic]

Don't forget about us along the way.

[Jesse Solomon]

Man, how could I forget about you guys?

[Kristin Cavallari]

Eat your broccoli, sprouts.