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Jodie Sweetin On Addition, Full House Childhood Fame, Embracing Her Authentic Self
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Michael Bostic
The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Lauren Everts
Fantastic.
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Michael Bostic
And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic.
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Lauren Everts
Are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness.
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Michael Bostic
Welcome to the Skinny Confidential.
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Jodie Sweetin
Him and her. Aha.
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Michael Bostic
I did watch Full House a little bit. Lauren was like a suit. I think she was in, like, clubs and stuff.
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Lauren Everts
But guys.
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Michael Bostic
But for my knowledge, what ages were you like, or what age were you from when you started to when you finished?
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Jodie Sweetin
I started when I was five and I was 13 when it ended.
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Lauren Everts
Did you.
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Jodie Sweetin
It was eight years, beg your parents.
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Lauren Everts
To get you into acting at 5?
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Jodie Sweetin
I actually got into acting at, like, 4. I was doing commercials, so I was like, a really bright kid. I read super early, like three and a half. I loved performing, I loved dancing. Anything I could do, singing, whatever. Like, I would just do it in front of my parents, my grandma, you know, whoever would pay attention. I would tell my parents I wanted to be a modeler, which was what I called people on tv. And so my mom was like, oh, you know, we live down in Orange County. No connection to the business. Like, my parents are very sort of, you know, blue collar, middle class. Like, just. There was no connection to the business. And so I started. Started doing commercials. Well, I started doing, like, print stuff, just, you know, like pictures, whatever, Sears ads, something like that. And then started doing commercials. And I did my Oscar Mayer hot dog commercial was my first commercial. I also did a Sizzler commercial with the all you can eat shrimp, which was a lot. And then went into Full House. Like, I got a guest appearance on Valerie, which was the show with Valerie and her kids. Valerie Hogan. No, not the Hogan family. Oh, my gosh, I can't think. Anyway, I did an episode of that. Same producers as Full House. And I just got cast on the show from doing that. I actually never auditioned. I didn't. They saw what I did on my guest appearance, and they were like, that's who we want for Stephanie.
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Lauren Everts
And then at 5, did you even understand the gravity of being on a show that was so intense and famous?
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Jodie Sweetin
Well, the show was not intense and famous when I was 5. Yeah, we were. We barely got a first season. We had the first 13 and that we had shot. And, you know, after the pilot, we were like, are we gonna get a back end? Like back in the day when, you know, a season was 26 episodes on a network. And, you know, it was like, are we gonna get the back 13. Are we gonna get the back 13? And we did, but it was still kind of struggling along. And, you know, the critics were like, it's a cheesy family show. We were like, yeah, that's the point. And then around, like, mid second season, we really started finding our audience. And from then on, like, we were an audience hit. The critics never always, you know, sort of trashed it, but the audience loved it.
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Lauren Everts
I think what you were selling, if I look back on my own childhood watching it, was hope. It's like there's, like, a family unit there. And I think a lot of people I can imagine that came from broken homes would be like. Like, this is something I really want to watch. Cause it made them feel good, right?
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, it's true. I can't tell you how many people have come up to me throughout the years and said, you know, I was raised by my aunt, or, you know, my parents are gay, or my. You know, all of these different family structures. How many times people have come up to me and said, full house. Let me know that it was okay to have a family that might not be your blood relatives or that might look a little different from everybody else. Like, the show taught people, that's okay. It's about love. It's about family. It's about supporting each other. It doesn't matter what it looks like, you know, And I always thought that was a really great message on set.
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Lauren Everts
Was it the same vibes? Like, it seems like you guys are all very close from. I've read a lot of your memoirs and autobiographies, all you guys, and it seems like there's a closeness.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, we are ridiculously close. We have spent a lot of time together over the years. God, it's been like, almost 40 years now than I've known these people. It's crazy to think about. I think it was just the 38th anniversary of the airing of Full House, and so, yeah, it's wild to think about. But, yeah, we were so close and so much of a family, just really from the beginning. And a lot of that came from our producers, who. Jeff Franklin was wonderful with us kids. He did not have kids of his own, so he was very much like moms, whatever, you guys. You know, like, he really respected us as kids and didn't overwork us, didn't push us. And, you know, then the family of cast that we got, like, we got these really amazing adults, John, Bob, Dave, who are family guys. You know, at the end of the day, they all wound up having kids, but they Come from bigger families. And they shared that with us. You know, it wasn't ever a separation of, like, oh, there's the kids, and they're sort of on the side. You know, it was very much. We were a cohesive bunch.
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Lauren Everts
A lot of the shows, like, it feels like they are exploiting the kids, but with Full House, it never felt like that. As a viewer, I don't even know how to explain it.
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Michael Bostic
No, it's funny too, because John's been on this show and he described it in the same way, but from like a reverse side. Like, almost as like a. Like more of like a father uncle. He, like, he was protective of the kids.
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Jodie Sweetin
They all were, like. And that was the thing that really made a difference. We were in an environment where the kids. Welfare came first. It was. We were important. And our studio teacher, Adria Lader, who was also the social worker on set, like, she was always there for us. And just. I mean, she. I still talk to her to this day. You know, it's really amazing how we all sort of joined together. But it was. I was very fortunate that in all of my experience, I've never worked on a set with people that I don't like. I've never worked in an environment where I'm like, oh, my God, I'm gonna lose my mind. I hate working with these people. Like, from the beginning, I have had an incredibly positive experience of being in this business. So I count myself as very lucky because I know, you know, a lot of the Disney shows, a lot of the Nickelodeon shows, like, it was a lot different because the kids were really more of a commodity.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Jodie Sweetin
And in some cases, yeah. They were much more, I think, seen as, like, just things that were making someone money. And at the end of the day, that's all most actors are. But we never felt like that. It never, you know, they would let us go. I went to school in the morning, like, regular school in the morning, and worked in the afternoon. And they would, like, schedule around important events so that we could go to them.
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Michael Bostic
What was. I guess if you're looking back now, and maybe it felt normal to you, but for people listening, what felt like. Or what was a normal childhood experience versus an abnormal. I mean, it's probably.
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Jodie Sweetin
I don't know what a normal childhood experience is. I didn't have. From the time I was, like, four years old, I didn't. I don't know what anonymity is. I don't know what it is to go in the world and not have people recognize you or Know you or pay attention to.
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Lauren Everts
It's so weird. That's such a trip that you, you don't have, like, the contrast. Like, you don't know what the difference is.
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Michael Bostic
Right?
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Jodie Sweetin
People are like, what do you, you know, what's it like growing? I'm like, I don't know. What was it like being normal? Like, you're just like, I don't know. It was just growing up. Like, it's just what I did. And I loved it so much and I had so much fun as a kid. I was like, this is awesome. Like, I get to travel sometimes. I get to work with all these fun people. Like, it was incredible, you know? And of course, as it goes on and you get to be more closer to your teenage years. You're like, oh, my God, this is so embarrassing. I can't believe, you know, mortified because kids are cruel.
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Lauren Everts
You should have came to my school, girl.
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Jodie Sweetin
Let me tell you. It would have been the same.
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Lauren Everts
You should have came to my school. I thought I told you this off air. Was literally the vice president of the Jody Sweden Fan club. And this is before, like, this is when computers are.
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Jodie Sweetin
Oh, right.
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Lauren Everts
Like, it wasn't like how it is.
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Jodie Sweetin
This was the dial up. This was.
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Michael Bostic
What did you do?
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Jodie Sweetin
Can't be on the phone.
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Michael Bostic
What did you do in the fan club?
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Lauren Everts
On my dad's computer. Fine artist. This is like, this is the kind of, like the kind of vibes that were up. What's that other. A clip art?
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Jodie Sweetin
Yes. Yes. Right.
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Lauren Everts
And I typed in your name and it wasn't. It wasn't Safari. It was some search. I don't even. Probably aol something weird. And I typed in your name and up came your fan club. And I, I. It was like a chat room about how much everyone loved you. And we would just chat in the chat room and then chatting with in there. This is before the time that you could connect on a platform about.
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Jodie Sweetin
It was like chat rooms. Yeah, yeah.
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Lauren Everts
And everyone was like, they were like, dissecting the show episodes or what you were wearing or what your outfit was like. It was really funny.
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Michael Bostic
The younger people listening, they, like, have no idea what a chat room is.
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Jodie Sweetin
Right. They're like, what's that? Is it on, like, Discord or Twitter? Yeah, you're like, something weird.
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Lauren Everts
I don't remember. My dad doesn't know that story. I'm sure he'll be thrilled that I stuck on his computer.
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Jodie Sweetin
Well, I mean, you didn't download any malware that you know of, so this.
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Lauren Everts
Is before dick pics.
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Jodie Sweetin
So I think, yeah, yeah, you're totally fine.
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Lauren Everts
As you grew more and more famous and became more and more well known, how did your parents deal with that with you? Because you mentioned that they weren't in the industry.
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Jodie Sweetin
I mean, you know, my parents were like, they always encouraged me to do well in school, to have normal friends. Most of the friends that I invited to my birthday parties were like kids I went to public school with. You know, I, My parents really made sure that I lived a quote unquote normal life when I could go on vacation, just have time to like be a kid. But, you know, it's weird. As you get more well known and especially as a kid, you all of a sudden feel incredibly self conscious. You're like, oh, everyone's looking at me, you know, talking, like, actually ran into somebody who I went to middle school with recently who said, oh my God, my kid was so afraid to go to middle school. And I told them the story about how hard it was for you the first day. And I was like, wow, 30 some odd years later. But it was. I showed up to school and I couldn't walk to class without everybody following. Like I had. So then I had to get escorted by the principal. And that's really what you want to do in middle school, you know. So it was like all of these things that. The experience that I had was amazing. But it was really, I think there were times that it was hard and hard for my parents because they don't know how to handle this. Nobody, you know, handling your kid being famous. But I think for them, making sure that there was like very clear boundaries of normal kid time and not work and then go to work and still have fun, but like have a life.
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Lauren Everts
When that happened in middle school, did you want to stop the show or were you still committed to doing it?
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Jodie Sweetin
Oh, no, I was still committed to doing it. I never wanted to not do what I was doing. I just wished that everyone knew that I didn't give a shit about it and neither should they. It's like, not a big deal. So can we not make it a big deal? That's why I never watched the show. I'm like, I don't care, whatever. It's just my job. It's what I do. I don't consider myself famous. It's. It's weird. Like I'm not that person.
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Michael Bostic
No, it makes sense because you're just you from your perspective. It's a normal, everyday person. That's your profession and you do things and yeah, I think, I mean, like, doing something like this and working with talent is like, most of the people that you meet and you get. You get kind of jaded to the kinds of people that you talk to. Not that you're not impressed, but you realize people are just people.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah.
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Jodie Sweetin
That's the thing is I never, like. It was never. I was never starstruck or like. Like, because it was just like, oh, whatever. Yeah, they do the same thing, you know, And I just. People are people, regardless of, you know, what they do. And I guess when I was younger, that was really the only thing that I wished is that people would give me a chance to just get to know me and that, you know, I wasn't stuck up. I didn't think I was better than everybody. I. You know, I was just wanting to have friends, too, and, like, if we could just all make it not a big deal.
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Lauren Everts
Did it ever become not a big deal?
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah.
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Jodie Sweetin
I mean, you know, the first. The first couple months at a new school were always a challenge, particularly as I got older. But I will say I was in the same school for, like, fourth through sixth grade, so that was easy. Public school. By the time, like, fourth grade was, you know, a couple months of that was over, they were like, okay, cool. And then they just made fun of me, you know, as normal kids do. And then I went to middle school, my first year middle school with a lot of those kids in, like, seventh grade. And then eighth grade moved to a different school, and that was where that, like, crowd of people were, and it was a whole thing. And happened the same thing in seventh grade. You know, I would change schools, and people would. They'd either love you or hate you. So it was, you know, one or the other. But then by the time I was in high school, everyone was like, whatever, we know her. It's not a big deal. And I went to a performing arts high school within my regular high school. So there were other kids that were in the business or that, you know, did musicals and stuff like that. So it was a little bit more understood amongst some of my peers. But, yeah, by that time, I had kind of just become the normal kid.
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Lauren Everts
And when the show ends, are you, like, ecstatic, or is it an identity crisis? What do you feel like?
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Jodie Sweetin
It was a total identity crisis? No, I was heartbroken. I didn't. I didn't want it to end.
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Lauren Everts
You didn't want it to end at all?
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Jodie Sweetin
No, I loved doing it. It was home. It was everything I knew. It was everyone I knew. It was my entire existence up until that point, you know, how often were.
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Michael Bostic
You guys filming when you, when it was going?
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Jodie Sweetin
We would film three weeks on, one week off. And we had, by the time we came around to, I think, the third season, we had four day work weeks. So it was Tuesday through Friday, three weeks on, one week off. And then you had usually like a hiatus somewhere in the middle. But, you know, you were shooting nine and a half months out of the year when you had a network show. Cause you had like 24, 26 episodes.
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Lauren Everts
Like, did you want to keep the acting?
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Jodie Sweetin
Absolutely, I wanted to keep acting. I wanted to keep auditioning. And it was hard because I would walk into a room and, you know, even casting directors would be like, oh, my God, I love you on Full House. Okay, you have to say it. Just say, how rude. And you'd be like, in there for some, you know, audition that requires you to be, like, really raw or emotional. And then they were like, okay, okay, sorry. Okay, go on. And you're like, well, I, I, it's. I don't know what to do now, you know, and so it was really hard. Like, it's. And I think still people see you as one thing, and in some ways they only want you to be that one thing because it's easier for them. But, yeah, I love what I do. I love performing, I love acting, I love theater, I love singing. All of it.
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Michael Bostic
Is that one of the downsides of doing, like, a network tv? Because same thing with John is you, you do it so often, so long that you get that typecast.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we even see, we saw it really happen with the Friends cast. Now, granted, they were making a million dollars an episode, so bless. But it was very hard for some of them because the show was so successful. To be seen as anything other than those characters like it does, it's a blessing and a curse. It's a great thing while you're in it. But then afterwards, you really, you have to hope that other people are willing to give you a chance to do something different.
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Lauren Everts
You know, Frankie Muniz just was in, I think Us Weekly, and he said the exact same thing. He's like, it's so amazing that I was on this hit show and I loved it so much, right. But the transition out of it. And he went, I think he went on to be a, he's a race.
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Jodie Sweetin
Car driver and stuff. I did a show with him in Ireland for like three days. We did a Name that Tune, which they were shooting over there. Random. I don't know why, but he's a lovely human.
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Lauren Everts
He wants to go back into acting now, too. And it's like, I think that in my opinion, the public has become more open to people wanting to be multifaceted. I think when you were growing up, like, it's probably hard because it does seem like they want to put you in a box and label it.
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Jodie Sweetin
For sure. For sure. And it's still, I think now, I mean, now that I'm a little bit older and even coming back and doing fuller and then kind of coming back from that, I think people, yes, it was the sitcom and it was the Tanners and all that continuation, but I think people saw me like a little bit differently than that. And, you know, doing like standup comedy and stuff like that too, I think is people are starting to see me as something a little bit more than Stephanie Tanner.
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Lauren Everts
The other day I saw you and this might have been in the same magazine. You declared that it was potato day.
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Jodie Sweetin
Oh, what?
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Michael Bostic
What?
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Lauren Everts
I'm obsessed with this. Can you tell us about potato day?
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Jodie Sweetin
Potato day. Sometimes you just need a potato day. And I. So I am a person who is going all the time. Like, I ha. I'm doing 3,000 things at once, but I never give myself credit for doing it. I'm always like, you could be doing more. You should be doing more. You're lazy. You know, all this stuff. So I would try and like cram everything in and just be busy all day. And then what I realized is, is that some days you just need to literally be a potato. Just.
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Lauren Everts
I do, Michael.
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Michael Bostic
Okay.
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Jodie Sweetin
You just need to.
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Lauren Everts
Michael, that means no questions.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, tell him no questions.
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Michael Bostic
For some reason I was going the food route, but that didn't.
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Lauren Everts
Well, he french fries this morning and handed me a four month old screaming baby with no bottle. That's how we woke me up.
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Michael Bostic
But I was going to make the bottle.
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Jodie Sweetin
I know, but I've had two kids, so that is a. That's not a potato day. No, no. And the potato days become ever more important when you do have kids because even when they get older, you're like, you know, I'm constantly driving this one here and this one over here and, you know, all of this stuff. Some days I'm like, don't talk to me. Don't do anything. Don't ask me a question. You have that every morning. Don't make me make a decision. Pick what food we're going to like. Just let me watch whatever the hell I want or scroll on my phone all day.
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Lauren Everts
Agreed.
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Jodie Sweetin
Like, I'm not going to take a shower. And I just want to be left alone.
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Lauren Everts
Do you hear that?
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
I've been trying to teach him this for a hundred years.
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Michael Bostic
You do a lot of potato days now that it's being.
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Lauren Everts
No, I don't do a potato. You don't even lie. The second I potato, he's like, lauren, like, you will not let me.
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Michael Bostic
You're a big potato dinner.
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Jodie Sweetin
I don't let myself potato. So, like, that's why I will declare potato days.
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Lauren Everts
I call it marinating.
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Jodie Sweetin
Same thing. It's like marinating makes me feel more like I need to take a shower. Because I definitely don't on potato days. And marinating, I feel like I'm. I don't know, marinating my own.
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Lauren Everts
I'm not the biggest shower person.
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Jodie Sweetin
I feel you. And I think girls are this way. My husband is this. He's like, what? What do you mean?
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Michael Bostic
Because I'm like a two shower day kind of person.
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Jodie Sweetin
That's him. So he is that way. But I think it's because it is an ordeal for us to shower.
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Lauren Everts
It's an ordeal.
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Jodie Sweetin
You're getting your hair wet, your makeup's coming off. You might have to shave your legs. If it's an everything shower, forget it. You're in there 25 minutes. But like, it's just, oh, God, now I don't have to dry my hair in the thing. And I don't want to. I don't want to, guys. In and out. You're done.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, it's quick.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, I could shower quickly. I'd be like a quick.
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Lauren Everts
It's called a horror shower.
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Jodie Sweetin
Oh, yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Horse bath. Takes a bath the bathtub. And you just do your pits and your bits.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, yeah.
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Lauren Everts
And you just get out. Like, I just can't be bothered every single day to do a full shower.
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Michael Bostic
You could also up the. The whores baths though too.
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Jodie Sweetin
He's like, you could just. In the room, you could just be a little cleaner.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, no, I mean, I don't care what, like if you got to spray yourself.
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Jodie Sweetin
Here's what I will say, though.
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Lauren Everts
That doesn't stop you.
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Jodie Sweetin
My husband. And now after we've been together eight years, there will be times that after like two days, he'll be like, God, I need to take a shower. And I'm like, wait, you didn't take a shower today? He's like, no, not yesterday either. I'm like, oh, my God. For him, come to the dark side.
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Lauren Everts
You've never done that in your entire life.
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Michael Bostic
I feel like your personality, my Japanese Grandmother would be spinning in her grave if I, if I did not shower.
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Jodie Sweetin
Let me tell you, I love to be clean, but some days I just don't have the energy, the dopamine to get through showering. Like I have adhd and some days I've just gassed out. It's not happening.
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Lauren Everts
Maybe if you would have led every single day.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah. Oh, everything. I am a commitment phobe to everything. I can't do anything every single day.
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Michael Bostic
If you would have led with this in the, the chat room, you would have maybe got Jody's attention back there.
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Lauren Everts
I know, I tried, I tried.
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Jodie Sweetin
I never even went in those.
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Lauren Everts
I think that's better though.
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Michael Bostic
Well, she's probably a good.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Not that there was anything bad, it's just better.
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Jodie Sweetin
No, I. Once I was older, I did make the mistake of going into chat rooms in like my older teenage years. And I was like, oh God, this was horrible. But yeah, when I was young I didn't really.
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Michael Bostic
But was the Internet like it is now back then where people.
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Jodie Sweetin
There wasn't an Internet when I was a kid.
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Michael Bostic
But would people like criticize you guys online anyway? You didn't have to deal with that.
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Jodie Sweetin
Because now, I mean, people would criticize us. Luckily, again, being a kid, you did have a little bit of safety. But, you know, I think I was 8, 9. I think I was about 9 years old when Star magazine made up a whole story and put it in the magazine that Bob Saget was trying to get me fired. That I was a problem on set, that I was running around all over the place and not didn't know my lines. Which was the most hysterical part because one, I was so close to Bob at the time. Cause he had two daughters at that time that were very close to my age. I would go spend weekends at his house with his family. He would make us blueberry pancakes and we'd all sit in bed and watch cartoons. Like Bob was not trying to get me fired. I, Bob and John will tell you this. I knew everyone's lines like mine and if they screwed up, I'd be like, this is. Here's your line. Cause I just would remember it all. So like this complete bullshit. This whole thing about a nine year old kid and that, that hurt me so bad that into my career in my 30s, I refused to do. And every time they would ask I'd be like, no good standing your ground.
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Michael Bostic
So it was like more like they just made it up. It was one of those publications that would write these weird.
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Jodie Sweetin
It was Enquirer. It was the bullshit, you know, the rags sort of magazine. But as a kid, that's almost scarier than that. You took that in as like, who. Who is it that said this? Who doesn't like me here?
- [22:27]
Lauren Everts
Who.
- [22:27]
Jodie Sweetin
What? I'm not, I'm not safe in a place that I didn't think had anybody that was gonna go outside and say anything, you know what I mean? Like, it just.
- [22:37]
Michael Bostic
You were literally having hit pieces written on you at 9 years old and people that, you know, listen, I've had my fair share myself.
- [22:42]
Jodie Sweetin
So, yeah, as an adult, you're like, suck it.
- [22:45]
Michael Bostic
But it's one thing when you have strangers commenting on things, it's like kind of. But it's a different thing when there's an actual publication in business that is quote, unquote, respected. Writing at that age, I imagine that was really challenging.
- [22:56]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, it was, it was like, stuff like that was really weird. It was just weird and hard and it was always weird because I'm like, why are. Who does. Who's just making up stories about people? Like, I mean, even now when people are like, I just making up entire things, I'm like, y' all need to get a hobby or something. Like, it's just, it blows my mind the amount of, you know, that the criticism and, you know, hate that has always existed for anyone in the entertainment business. But to go for a nine year old is pretty rough.
- [23:29]
Lauren Everts
It's usually, this is my theory I've deducted. It's usually two things. They either want to be acknowledged by the person, so they say a zinger, right? Acknowledgment, and then they'll immediately backpedal and apologize. Or it's projection. So like, for sure, like, you know, saying something about the way you look or whatever and they're projecting their own insecurity onto you Now.
- [23:51]
Jodie Sweetin
I don't care about the comments. I really don't go on social media as much like I'll post and leave. I'm like, I don't want. It's a mess. But recently I was, I posted a picture where I thought I looked really cute. And one of the first comments that I saw was, oh my God, what's going on with her eyebrows? And so then I was like, well, shit, what is going on with my eyebrows? And I looked and I was like, there's just not really there. That's all I don't have. You have great eyebrows. That's what reminded me, I'm gonna give.
- [24:19]
Lauren Everts
You some brow peptide.
- [24:21]
Jodie Sweetin
But I literally.
- [24:22]
Lauren Everts
But you don't need It. But I'm just saying.
- [24:23]
Jodie Sweetin
Oh, no, I do. This is microblading, honey. There's like four hairs doing the microscope. So.
- [24:27]
Lauren Everts
But then you spiral when someone says that. Or you just.
- [24:29]
Jodie Sweetin
No, but it. Literally every time I'm doing my eyebrows now in the mirror, I'm like, oh, my God, what's wrong with your eyebrows? Like, it just as a joke almost in my head. It's funny to me now. Now I have a very thick skin, and I'm like, I don't care. I don't know you. Why does your opinion matter?
- [24:46]
Lauren Everts
It doesn't.
- [24:47]
Jodie Sweetin
It doesn't at all. And so, yeah, I just. It doesn't affect me the way it used to.
- [24:54]
Lauren Everts
What if you saw that person and they had no eyebrows? Right.
- [24:58]
Jodie Sweetin
I'd be like, oh, yes, glass house stones, my friend.
- [25:03]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the eyebrows.
- [25:05]
Jodie Sweetin
No, I'd take a picture with them and be like, oh, my God, look at their eyebrows.
- [25:09]
Lauren Everts
You just have to. I think that's good. To just ignore it and to not read it.
- [25:13]
Jodie Sweetin
No, I don't read it. I ignore it. I. I mean, you know, look, I have been very public about addiction and about, you know, multiple divorces and all kinds of things. You know, at this point, I think having all your secrets out there, quote unquote, and like, feeling like there's nothing that anyone could hold over you anymore. It's. That's freeing. I'm like, what do you. Okay, what are you gonna say?
- [25:41]
Lauren Everts
I've.
- [25:41]
Jodie Sweetin
I've lived through 43 years of some real serious bullshit. At times, like, okay, let's keep going.
- [25:48]
Lauren Everts
It's liberating, I think.
- [25:49]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah.
- [25:49]
Lauren Everts
I also think, like, as a fan of the show, that's one of the things that I loved about you so much, was it was refreshing to have someone tell the truth, because a lot of people go through a lot of stuff in private and they don't air it out. And I love that you were so honest in everything you do. I feel like you're honest on your podcast, on social media and your book. It's like, what you see is what you get.
- [26:07]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, that's very much, very much me. And I will say, you know, funny that you mentioned that, because I probably wouldn't have been as public about my addiction, but back to the tabloids, someone who worked there sold out that I was there and had someone come and, like, take pictures and all kinds of stuff. So it was really a moment of like, okay. Yeah. Of like, okay, it's out there. It's out there. And, you know, I wasn't doing glamorous drugs. And of course they, I mean, I was doing all the drugs, but of course they focus on like the worst, most salacious thing. And so at that time I was like, well, I can either hide from this and like hang my head and be mortified, or I can just say, yeah, I fucked up. I had a really hard time and this is what happened. And like, oh, well, that's life. You know what I mean? That's what happens. Other people go through stuff. We all go through stuff. It doesn't have to be so shameful. I think getting rid of shame and stigma around addiction and mental health and so many things in the past few years even we've seen it just become so much easier to talk about. And it's not as like, it doesn't rack you with fear of what are people. Oh my God, what if this happens? You know, everyone's touched by it.
- [27:32]
Lauren Everts
Everyone, Everyone. And it's when someone comes out that's so strong and brave that you admire and just is honest about it. To me, it's like, it's, it's refreshing. It's like, it's, it's like, oh, I've experienced this. You've experienced like, it's, it's just nice.
- [27:46]
Michael Bostic
We've talked to a lot of people on the show over the years in the realm of addiction. And what we say every time is whether you are somebody that's personally touched by, you know, somebody in your family or a friend that is everybody is a.
- [27:57]
Jodie Sweetin
Affected by everybody. And particularly now everyone has someone in their life, most likely that is struggling with addiction or, you know, whether it's known or not known to them. You know, there's life is hard. Life is. It's confusing, it's messy. You know, again, I've been divorced a bunch of times. Like I could hide from that and be like, oh my God, I can't believe it. I put it in my stand up act like, you know what I mean? Like, let's take the air out of it. Like, let make it funny. Laugh at yourself.
- [28:29]
Michael Bostic
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- [34:19]
Jodie Sweetin
Well, I mean, I just mentioned that I've been divorced three times and you know that I look terrible on paper. But really, if you get to know me, I'm not that bad. Unless I'm gonna marry you. No, but, no, I like, you know, I just, I make fun of myself. I make fun of stuff. I get up on stage and I'm like, okay, let's get three things out of the way. How rude. No, I don't talk to the Olsen twins a lot. And yes, I miss Bob. Okay, now, you know, get down to business. And now let's get to the funny shit.
- [34:47]
Lauren Everts
Those are the three things that you get asked all the time.
- [34:51]
Jodie Sweetin
That's why I just am like, let's just cover this now. Yeah, yeah. Say, how rude, right? Like, you know, do you talk to the Olsen twins? And like, you know, I'm so sorry, like, you must miss Bob a lot. And I'm like, yep, all three of those. Check. Now I can go on. But like I say in a funny way and people laugh because everyone in the room is thinking it. Like, everyone in the room is like, I want to. I wonder if she's gonna say it. Interact. So I'm like, let me just do it and get it out of the way for you.
- [35:17]
Michael Bostic
In the realm of addiction, was this like something that happened slowly over a period of time or one day you got introduced and it was like, quick.
- [35:23]
Jodie Sweetin
Well, the first time I ever drank, I was like 1413, 14. And it was at Candace's wedding and I was just a blackout drinker. I went. The last thing I remember doing, I think is somewhere around the M of a ymca. And then I don't remember anything from the. The rest of. And it was awful and it was ugly and it was embarrassing and my mother was horrified.
- [35:47]
Michael Bostic
Did people know you were drinking or was this like you're sneaking off at the table?
- [35:50]
Jodie Sweetin
Oh, no, no, no. I was at the table and I was drinking. And you know, it was like I was across the room from my mom. So they would pour a glass of wine and I'd be like. And then they'd get around, right? Then they'd get around to pouring more and I was like, I'll take a little more, please. Like an idiot. 13, 14 year old. You know, it was a lot of red wine and the bathroom was very white. Not a good mix. Anyway, at that moment I was horrified the next day and I felt awful. But it clicked something in there where I was like, ooh, that was fun. You didn't give a shit about anything. You just, you don't remember it. And it's not like I realized that that was sort of the fix all. I mean, a lot of it was just dumb teenage stuff, but I definitely knew at an early age, I'd say around 15, 16, I knew that I drank and partied in a way that my friends did not and that, you know, they were like, what bro? Settle down. And I would be like, okay, well now I gotta go find somebody that I can do these drugs with. Or, you know, it was like finding different people that didn't make you feel so bad about what you were doing.
- [36:58]
Lauren Everts
I mean, I can imagine if, if I was on TV at your age, it's like an. You get, you get dopamine in a way that like, like the normal person doesn't. Right. It makes to me like it makes sense that as you get out of that you would keep chasing it. I understand, like for sure.
- [37:13]
Jodie Sweetin
I mean, and I, I, like, I didn't realize also, you know, I got diagnosed with ADHD later in life and it's, I'm a, I'm a nightmare with it. And when I was on set, that was my hyper focus, so I could remember every line and do everything. And even now when I'm on set, like I'm paying attention to everything. Where are my keys? Where's my phone? Like, that's my life. And on growing up, you know, I had this sort of hybrid environment. And then when that was lost at 13. It was like, who am I? What do I do? My schedule, my busy, my going. My thing that kept my brain busy, that stimulated me, that I loved. That was my hyper focus. Now I'm just all over the place, you know, And I always say, like, that was why I think I found stimulants, because. And I would be more sober than anyone else in the room.
- [38:07]
Lauren Everts
And I.
- [38:08]
Jodie Sweetin
Now I'm like, oh, I was just. I was looking for a way to make my brain work better.
- [38:15]
Lauren Everts
When did you find out you had adhd?
- [38:16]
Jodie Sweetin
Four or five years ago, when both of my daughters were struggling with it. And, you know, there's all these forms you gotta fill out, and I'm filling it out for them. And I realize, oh, as a child, I would have scored myself higher on these things than I'm scoring them. And even now, I would score higher, you know, oh, this is really bad. And I was like, oh, wait, this is all adhd. Like, it really explained a lot of things in my life.
- [38:44]
Michael Bostic
We just recently had Busy Phillips on the show, and she was talking about adhd. Cause I think she struggles with the same thing. She said the almost exact same thing.
- [38:50]
Lauren Everts
She was working, she was filling it out. Yeah, same thing.
- [38:52]
Jodie Sweetin
And I will say that is a really common story among women, among moms, because we show ADHD differently. We're not the hyperactive, jumping around, can't sit still. Like boys are necessarily. We are talkative in class, we're passing notes. We are, you know, not staying on task. Our rooms are messy, but it's because we like all the clothes, you know, all of these things that, like, we just aren't good at. But it doesn't look like what people think ADHD is or ADD is.
- [39:26]
Michael Bostic
When you say hyper focused, does ADHD mean that the thing that is, like, most important to you, you can nail that and stay completely focused on that. But everything else just so people.
- [39:34]
Jodie Sweetin
And my really good friend who is a therapist, wants to write a book, is writing a book on ADHD and particularly later diagnosis in women. But, you know, what she says is, it's not attention deficit. You have so much attention that you're paying attention to everything. So, like. But you can't make a decision on what to focus on the most. So you're just kind of bouncing around everywhere. You're like, oh, I'm gonna look at this. Oh, wait, that reminds me, I gotta go over here. I mean, I will have seven tasks half done in my house because I'm moving from thing to thing. You know, where you don't really, like. Oh, wait, how. How did I get to cleaning out the.
- [40:16]
Lauren Everts
The.
- [40:16]
Jodie Sweetin
The. The linen closet?
- [40:18]
Lauren Everts
I start packing for Europe and, like, start organizing this scrapbook.
- [40:23]
Jodie Sweetin
My husband every day finds my coffee in the microwave from, like.
- [40:27]
Michael Bostic
He's like, scrapbook on our dining table for how long now? What's going on with that?
- [40:31]
Lauren Everts
I'm sweating because this is like. No. And.
- [40:33]
Jodie Sweetin
But here's the thing is the hyperfocus is. It's the thing that, for whatever reason, in that moment is giving you the dopamine. So if I'm on set, ugh, I'm alive. I love it. Everything is. I'm getting all of the dopamine, so I'm able to do all the things.
- [40:49]
Michael Bostic
So if somebody gave you a script or a bunch of lines to remember, how long would it take you to do that compared to what the other cast members would do?
- [40:56]
Jodie Sweetin
I mean, now that I'm old and perimenopausal, my brain seems to be going. It takes a little longer, but. No, Memorizing for me is really easy. You know, I joke, but I'm pretty good at remembering lines. And they may not be, you know. Exactly.
- [41:10]
Lauren Everts
Because you're hyper focused on it.
- [41:12]
Jodie Sweetin
Because it's what I love. So I'm like, words are my thing. I read obsessively. Even now. I did as a kid. That was. I would go to the library and check out, you know, 10 books at a time and spend hours in the bookstore. I was kind of a nerd. But words are my thing, so. And performing is my thing. So, like, those two things together, it's great. You know, I love it. But, like, ask me to make some appointments and phone calls, and it's gonna probably take a good 10 to 14 business days. Cause it just feels overwhelming. And I'm like, oh, got it. Got it.
- [41:47]
Lauren Everts
What if they're.
- [41:48]
Jodie Sweetin
Oh, no. What if they ask a question and then you just avoid it, and then it just goes away? And then you think about it, and you beat yourself up over it, and it doesn't get done. And it. You know, that's sort of the cycle of.
- [42:00]
Michael Bostic
But it sounds like if you manage it the right way, it could be like a superpower.
- [42:04]
Jodie Sweetin
It is. And that's what a lot of people talk about now, is that really. It's. And, you know, kids that are struggling in school, it's because we force this really linear way of thinking on people who are neurodivergent with, you know, adhd, who. Most of the people you meet in creative, you know, Sectors of the world have it, have some sort of neurodivergency because it does give you like the ability to see things maybe that other people don't see, or to look 10 steps ahead or to try something that nobody else would try because you are willing to take risks, you know.
- [42:41]
Lauren Everts
But people do get. If I. A lot of the things I've like realized I need to get tested for this. It seems like people around you, they get frustrated because they don't understand how you can be like a high performer in one area, but then you can feel overwhelmed, right?
- [42:57]
Jodie Sweetin
You're like, it's the executive. Executive dysfunction is what it's called. And it basically is like, it's the menial tasks, it's the tasks that you're not getting dopamine, showering, brushing your teeth, making up.
- [43:10]
Lauren Everts
I don't brush my teeth, but that's cause I'm on my vibrating plate, right?
- [43:13]
Jodie Sweetin
But like stuff like that, that you're like, you know, or being on time or, you know, all of that kind. My husband lives in a house of three women who are all neurodivergent adhd. And he is one of those people that if you say you're leaving at 6, you're leaving at 6. If I say I'm leaving at 6, I'm like, look, it could be anywhere from like 5:45 to 6:20, you know what I mean? It's a window, but new. And that's like, it's really interesting when I realize how differently my brain works than some people.
- [43:52]
Michael Bostic
So I have a question then for you. In a different lane, knowing that about yourself, what is the best way to interact with someone with 80, like say you don't have it and you want.
- [44:00]
Lauren Everts
To be taking notes.
- [44:01]
Michael Bostic
Well, I'm wondering now how you like, what would, if you did want to be out the door at 6, but you know, you have like, how do.
- [44:06]
Jodie Sweetin
You make a very specific like agreement? Okay, we're, we're leaving the house at 6:00'.
- [44:12]
Lauren Everts
Clock.
- [44:12]
Jodie Sweetin
I'm going to be ready by 5:45. Which means. And then you got to really do the work, back it up and give yourself 20 minutes of cushion time. 20 minutes of I don't like my outfit, 20 minutes of I messed up my makeup. You know, whatever. Build that into.
- [44:25]
Michael Bostic
But your husband has to do that.
- [44:27]
Jodie Sweetin
No, I'm pretty good now at being like, okay, I gotta do that. But my kids are terrible at it. I do think over the years and being in the business and having to be on time, like, I'm on time. But I, man, do I push it. I will know. If it takes me 12 and a half minutes to get somewhere, I am not leaving any earlier than that. Like, and my husband is one of those, you know, early as on time people. And I'm like, no, no, no, we're skating in at the time, but I'm here.
- [44:59]
Lauren Everts
I think it's because you give yourself 20 minutes, but then you get distracted.
- [45:02]
Jodie Sweetin
You're like, that's exactly what it is.
- [45:04]
Lauren Everts
Oh, I need to clean the window.
- [45:06]
Jodie Sweetin
Right, right, right. 20 minutes. Oh, I didn't sharpen these pencil. Whatever it is, it's interesting.
- [45:10]
Michael Bostic
It is interesting to sometimes watch her do some of the things that she thinks she can get done in an absolutely unrealistic period of time.
- [45:18]
Lauren Everts
I swear to God, I will get in the cold plunge if I have to. 8:45, I will get in the cold plunge at 8:30.
- [45:24]
Jodie Sweetin
But here's the thing, is that like in the moment that you're like, I can totally do this in three minutes. I get out, I can get. Right, I got it.
- [45:31]
Lauren Everts
I'm in the car at 10 minutes.
- [45:32]
Michael Bostic
We'Ll have to go pack all the kids and the whole family to go. Like a week long trip. And I'm like, my stuff's done the day before, it's an hour before the flight and she's not. And it's unbelievable to me.
- [45:44]
Jodie Sweetin
Oh, so packing. I actually, I love organizing and I think it is because my brain feels so scattered that I really like things to be organized. So when I pack, I have my little packing cubes and all this stuff. But it takes me forever going back and forth. I overpack because I can't make a decision. You know, things like this that are like, I get decision fatigue where after a while I'm like, I don't even, I don't know what I want to bring. I just, this is too much. I can't handle it. I don't want to choose anything anymore. But it takes me a while to pack. I do it the day before because of course, who wants to do things early, wait till that last minute. But it will take me like two and a half hours to pack.
- [46:29]
Lauren Everts
He has a bullet pointed list with things that he checks off every vacation. I saw you the other day looking at your phone.
- [46:37]
Jodie Sweetin
Here's the thing. I do that now because, yeah, maybe.
- [46:41]
Lauren Everts
I should do it.
- [46:41]
Jodie Sweetin
I forget stuff. It keeps you on task and it keeps me on task and it feels so nice to check things off.
- [46:47]
Lauren Everts
Like I'm in the airport ordering off Amazon because I forgot to get right.
- [46:51]
Jodie Sweetin
Like, you know what?
- [46:51]
Michael Bostic
The baby bottle. This is a packing tip for, like, there's. To me, there's nothing worse than overpacking.
- [46:57]
Jodie Sweetin
But that's a guy thing, though. But to me, to girls, women, most femme people, there's nothing worse than underpacking.
- [47:03]
Michael Bostic
Okay. Because what if we.
- [47:05]
Jodie Sweetin
What if something. Now we're going somewhere now. I need, like something a little bit nicer. And all I brought is T shirts.
- [47:09]
Lauren Everts
Lisa's dying right now because she brings, like the small little bag this big everywhere she goes with like a couple outfits and a pair of shoes, and it's like, good to go.
- [47:19]
Jodie Sweetin
My husband can travel for a week with a backpack.
- [47:21]
Michael Bostic
I'll watch her get to a place. And there's. So what happens is the reverse. When you get there, there's so much stuff that then you are overwhelmed on where everything is. And it's just a pile.
- [47:30]
Jodie Sweetin
No, see, I. When I travel again with the organization, I move in. If I am somewhere for more than two nights or two nights or more, I am hanging everything up. I am putting all of my product out.
- [47:45]
Lauren Everts
Because you like to organize.
- [47:46]
Jodie Sweetin
Because I like to organize. And it helps my brain feel settled. So I think, like, I've found little ways that help my brain feel a little more organized. Like, I journal in the morning now. I have this awesome journaling thing, Silk and Sonder, that is like this women owned company that I love. And it's like bullet journaling, but it's very much like 10 minutes, 10 minutes in the morning. And I write out my day. Even though I have it on my phone, I write out my day and for some reason that sticks it in my brain. Like, it's easier and less overwhelming. I like that too. On my phone, I'm like, oh, my God, there's so many dots. There's so many things. Everything looks crazy, but when I write it down, I'm like, really? I have like two things. An appointment and a phone call to make.
- [48:28]
Lauren Everts
And you don't. You can cross it off, too.
- [48:30]
Jodie Sweetin
Oh, yeah. It's so good to cross it off.
- [48:32]
Lauren Everts
It just feels good, right? You said.
- [48:34]
Jodie Sweetin
Anyway, sorry for taking us down.
- [48:37]
Lauren Everts
No, no, we love it. We love it. You said Dancing with the Stars was one of. I think you said it was one of your most, like, cathartic. I mean, I don't want to quote you.
- [48:44]
Jodie Sweetin
Well, it was one of the physically hardest things I've ever done until I did beyond the Edge, where I lived in the jungles of Panama for two weeks outside. That was then that took the cake and ran like ironman competitions every day. It was like these gnarly physical things.
- [49:04]
Michael Bostic
Why did you want to do that?
- [49:05]
Jodie Sweetin
For that exact reason that it's absolutely like, when else am I gonna go to the jungle for two weeks and like stress test myself? And I'm also one of those people. I like the risk taking. I like pushing myself. My mom said the same exact thing, though. She was like, what is wrong? Why would you do that? That sounds like a nightmare. Then you thought, there's really no way to describe it in the moment. It is. I mean, there was. We were sleeping outside on just bamboo, like rough bamboo. No. No pillows, nothing. Pouring down rain, snakes, you know, the monkeys were stealing our food. You know, just everything. And it would pour down rain. Cause we were in the rainforest of, you know, like in the rainforest pouring down rain to where you'd hear like trees falling places. And you were like, did you want to go home? No. The thing was, is you. You were the only person who could like ring the bell. And we didn't vote people off. It was all for charity. So it was all about how far am I willing to push myself?
- [50:17]
Lauren Everts
And when you got to go home, were you so happy?
- [50:20]
Jodie Sweetin
So, yes and no. So I made it to the final four okay. And it was me, an army ranger who was a country star, and two NFL players, Colton Underwood and Ray Lewis.
- [50:32]
Michael Bostic
Okay, Ray Lewis is tough. That's pretty cool.
- [50:34]
Jodie Sweetin
Ray Lewis is badass and saved my ass at one point from like drowning, basically. But it was. I had started. I have a really bad injury on my left ankle from a. This stupid thing that I broke it like really, really badly, like eight years ago. Plate, pins, the whole deal. And it was really starting to bother me and it was starting to get to where I was like, I'm gonna break my ink because you're running through creeks, over, I mean, climbing up ladders, doing wild, ridiculous things. And I was like, I don't know if I can do this. And. And my bigger thought was, it's going to be teams of two. Whoever gets on the team with me is automatically at a disadvantage. Not that I'm not badass and tough, but I'm not a 6 foot 4 football player or an army ranger who has trained in the jungles of Panama and lived there for months at a time. Like, I am not that. So overall, I was like, I think I'm ready to go. So I made it to the final four, but instead I tapped out and I switched places with coach, Coach Mike Singletary. And he took my place instead. And I was like, I'm good with that. Cause I knew I made it. I was like, I made it to the end. I knew I did it. But in that moment I was like, I'm not going to help someone win the most they can, and I don't want it. I'm okay with going home now.
- [52:06]
Lauren Everts
I'd rather have sexual healthier ankle. That sounds smart.
- [52:09]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I, I'm not a smart person when it comes to taking good care of myself. Like, I've broken my ankle multiple times. First time I did it, I just shoved it in a tennis shoe and walked around.
- [52:20]
Lauren Everts
You're not into self care or anything?
- [52:22]
Jodie Sweetin
No, I. Self care is great, but I am not one. Like, if I'm sick, I will keep going unless I am dying. Because I think I, you know, I worked as a kid and it was like, you don't get sick days, you got a cold, you got the flu, you got to take some Tylenol and you got to get up and go. So I've learned, like, there's this ability to push myself, but I also think it's. I like a challenge. I like, and I like extreme challenges. I like something that's hard. I like to see, test my mental strength. I think some of that risk taking probably has been really an asset in some ways. And it also has, you know, definitely put me in situations that were really stupid and dangerous. But at the end of the day, I made it.
- [53:07]
Michael Bostic
At what point in your drug use did you start to think like, hey, this is, this is going too far? Or was there a moment or was there like an intervention or.
- [53:15]
Jodie Sweetin
I mean, it was always too, like, it was, that was the point, you know what I mean, was to go too far. Like, I was, I was not a person who was like, oh, let's just like sip wine with dinner. I was like, if we ain't doing a bottle, what's the point? You know what I mean? So it was like, I always knew that my goal was like, blackout drinking or just getting as wasted as possible. And, you know, it. Like, I think I knew for a very long time that I was heading down a road that I was, you know, it was going to be jails, institutions, or death. Like they talk about in 12 step programs. Those are like, become your three options. And I was getting very close there. I mean, I, I did not think I would probably see my 30th birthday at the way I was going in my like mid-20s, like 24, 25. And I didn't plan on it. I was like, I guess this is what we're doing. And then it, you know, I like, life changed. I got married again and quickly found out that I was pregnant after that. And then it was like, okay, so this is what we're doing now. You know, everything changed. It was up and down. It wasn't perfect. I haven't, you know, had a perfect journey. But that really was the thing, I think that changed. Everything was like, oh, okay. It's like, party time's done. Like, you.
- [54:29]
Michael Bostic
It's gotta take care of somebody else.
- [54:31]
Jodie Sweetin
I gotta take care of somebody else. And also like, oh, I did make it this far. I am a mom now. Like, wow, I didn't. Oh, okay. I didn't think I was gonna like, make it to this. Now what do I do?
- [54:47]
Lauren Everts
So how did becoming a mother change you as a person?
- [54:49]
Jodie Sweetin
I think it, you know, it. I realized that it's not all about me anymore. And, you know, and that's hard because, you know, I think moms are expected to give up everything when we have kids. So it is sort of a tough balance that, like, yes, it's not about me completely anymore, but also like, if it's not about me at all, I am a miserable person.
- [55:17]
Lauren Everts
It's so, it's such a, you know.
- [55:18]
Jodie Sweetin
And like finding that balance. But it just, it made me like, wake up and just finally get back to like, knowing how to handle myself and being responsible and being like, oh, that's right. You don't have to be a complete, like, you know, nut job partying every night of the week. You actually can find some joy in normal life.
- [55:44]
Lauren Everts
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Michael Bostic
When you watch yourself back now after all these years, what kind of emotions pop up? Because I imagine it's strange to see yourself as a. As a grown woman that's an adult with kids in a family, and then see yourself that not a lot of people can go back and see that kind of footage of the kids.
- [62:34]
Jodie Sweetin
It is. But at the same time, like, I've grown up in front of cameras. I've seen myself so much on like, that it's. I'm like, eh. But now I have. It's fun to go back and look at myself as a kid. You know, like I said, there was that awkward, like, teenage period where you're just like, oh, my God, I was on, like, a lame family show and I have a lame catchphrase and, like, I'm just so lame, you know, but. And my clothes and whatever. But now I go back and I'm like, this is an amazing time capsule of who I was, what I was, like, what I was into, what I was wearing. They really, you know, Stephanie was really a lot of me. And so it is. It's fun to go back and, like, see all of these things. And, you know, my kids have watched it here and there, but they're not really impressed.
- [63:21]
Lauren Everts
Oh, my gosh. The one where you and Gia were driving on.
- [63:25]
Jodie Sweetin
Yes.
- [63:26]
Lauren Everts
The car. The truck was coming towards them.
- [63:28]
Jodie Sweetin
And joyride one, they decided to go.
- [63:31]
Lauren Everts
Around the car, and they were on the same side as the truck.
- [63:33]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah.
- [63:34]
Lauren Everts
And then you guys were smoking cigarettes in the bathroom.
- [63:36]
Jodie Sweetin
Terrible.
- [63:37]
Lauren Everts
But it was so like, when you're a little girl and you're watching that, I remember just being like this. They're so cool.
- [63:42]
Jodie Sweetin
They would never make a show like.
- [63:43]
Michael Bostic
That again these days. But the kids smoking cigarettes.
- [63:46]
Jodie Sweetin
Well, I wasn't smoking.
- [63:47]
Lauren Everts
Gia was smoking.
- [63:48]
Jodie Sweetin
Gia was smoking. Oh, yeah. Have you watched Euphoria?
- [63:50]
Michael Bostic
Well, yeah, like a network television show, Right?
- [63:53]
Jodie Sweetin
Well, it would be great if there was a sitcom on network television these days.
- [63:57]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, we need a good sitcom.
- [63:58]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah. But, yeah, it was fun. It was fun to get to be, you know, the kind of. The one that didn't play by the rules all the time. Steph was a little bit of a, you know, boundary pusher, and I liked that about her.
- [64:12]
Lauren Everts
Was the cigarette real?
- [64:14]
Jodie Sweetin
No. We actually had this. We were having this debate the other day because Molly Morgan was on the podcast, and she played Mickey. Mickey was the long, dark hair. Oh, I thought it was me and Gia. It was me and Gia and Mickey.
- [64:26]
Lauren Everts
Okay. I probably would see a.
- [64:28]
Jodie Sweetin
Anyway, she was on the show, and I was like, yeah. Remember us stealing, like, the clove cigarettes and going and smoking them? Cause Marla and I talked about doing that. She's like, wait, were they clove, or were they, like, the marshmallow ones? I was like, no, no, no, no. They were for sure clove. Cause we would sneak into the prop room and go find them in the drawer and, like, sneak two out. And Marlo and I would go, like, on the lot. We'd be like, we're going to lunch now. Cause, you know, we were 13. My mom would let us go to the commissary, like, around the corner, but we'd, like, go and secretly smoke cigarettes and go and buy, like, the Green Day album at the Warner Bros. Store on the lot.
- [65:03]
Lauren Everts
Meanwhile, I was listening to Forever, Forever.
- [65:07]
Jodie Sweetin
The song that literally will be around forever.
- [65:12]
Lauren Everts
Did he sing that? Is that actually him? Don't think I asked him that.
- [65:15]
Jodie Sweetin
Oh, yeah, yeah. No, he definitely. He sang that. It's a Beach Boy song written by Brian Wilson.
- [65:19]
Michael Bostic
I didn't know he still plays with Brian. He did.
- [65:22]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, he did. And. But, yeah, John still plays with the Beach Boys. But, yeah, that was a Brian Wilson song that he wrote, I think, like, a while ago. Well, obviously, it's been a while now, but even before that. And John wound up taking it for the show. And then there was, like, A. There's a, Like a music video of it.
- [65:43]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, of course.
- [65:43]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, yeah. The shirt open and, like a chain and the thing. Yeah, it's very 90s.
- [65:48]
Lauren Everts
And then that was like, the porn back in the day.
- [65:51]
Jodie Sweetin
Right, right. And then there is also somewhere a rap version of it.
- [65:56]
Michael Bostic
Oh, no.
- [65:57]
Lauren Everts
Prove it.
- [65:58]
Jodie Sweetin
No, I, I. So someone, like, I think look it up on YouTube.
- [66:02]
Lauren Everts
Okay.
- [66:03]
Jodie Sweetin
Because Andrea was telling me about this, and I think we saw a clip of it. It. But there's, like, a little there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said the same thing. I was like, absolutely not. She was like, oh, I've seen it.
- [66:13]
Lauren Everts
My childhood crush was. Is Uncle Jesse, right? When you're a little girl and you have Uncle Jesse on set, is that your childhood crusher? Is that. No. So that's two families.
- [66:21]
Jodie Sweetin
I've seen John, like, speaking of Uncharted, like, I have seen him looking, you know, just literally like, he hasn't showered in four days. Come to rehearsal. Scraggly beard, backwards hat, nasty. You know, sweats with stains on him. He was like, that's. The John I know is like, my God. No, no.
- [66:42]
Lauren Everts
Oh, my God.
- [66:43]
Michael Bostic
Listen, when he was in here, still to this day, John, if you hear this, every girl in the office is head turning.
- [66:49]
Jodie Sweetin
Here's what I will.
- [66:49]
Michael Bostic
And then he got lost in the parking lot downstairs. And I.
- [66:52]
Jodie Sweetin
That sounds about right.
- [66:53]
Michael Bostic
I missed, like, 40 calls from him, and he's like, I'm lost in the parking lot.
- [66:55]
Jodie Sweetin
And that sounds about right. Cause, yeah, he's probably not paying attention. He's also a really good adhd.
- [67:00]
Lauren Everts
Yeah.
- [67:01]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, I think. Yeah. It's funny. I'm really into building Legos. It's one of my little things that I do to. To find dopamine. And John is also into it. And so we will send pictures back and forth of the LEGO sets that we're building and nerd out together. So that's.
- [67:16]
Michael Bostic
There's a new Star wars set that just came out that's supposed to be incredible.
- [67:19]
Lauren Everts
I know.
- [67:19]
Jodie Sweetin
I heard it's amazing, but I'm not a Star wars person, so, like.
- [67:23]
Michael Bostic
But from, like, a build perspective.
- [67:24]
Jodie Sweetin
From a build perspective, it looks. It looks pretty cool.
- [67:27]
Michael Bostic
I like doing Legos, too. When I'm stressed out, I'll get some Legos.
- [67:30]
Jodie Sweetin
Just some Legos. But, yeah, I don't want to keep them.
- [67:32]
Michael Bostic
I just want to build them.
- [67:33]
Jodie Sweetin
I don't worry.
- [67:34]
Lauren Everts
I don't keep them. They disappear. Brick.
- [67:36]
Jodie Sweetin
Go to Bricks and Minifigs gigs.
- [67:38]
Lauren Everts
Okay?
- [67:39]
Jodie Sweetin
They will take any sets you have built. Unbuilt extra Legos, they sell it, you bought. They'll, it's like consignment. They'll give you money for them. It's not, you know, a ton, but they also do a lot of like work and stuff with like adult day programs and kids with autism and stuff like that.
- [67:55]
Michael Bostic
Like that. See, that's what you got to do with these LEGO sets. Because I take all this time and.
- [67:58]
Lauren Everts
I'm, okay, well now what?
- [68:00]
Jodie Sweetin
I don't care about it. I built it, I'm done.
- [68:02]
Lauren Everts
I give them to.
- [68:03]
Michael Bostic
I'm like, Taylor knows I had them all. Yeah, I've been through some stressful periods with me and I had a lot of LEGO sets.
- [68:08]
Jodie Sweetin
I want to figure out how to sign them or somehow like have different celebrities build LEGO sets that they signed.
- [68:16]
Michael Bostic
That's cool.
- [68:17]
Jodie Sweetin
Like for charity and they're auctioned off. You know what I mean? Because I know there's a lot of people that like to do Legos and there's some things that you could probably get celebs that are like connected to the Harry Potter or the, you know, whatever. That's a good, like, I'm trying to, I, I'm. Yeah, that actually is still my idea.
- [68:35]
Michael Bostic
No, that is a good idea.
- [68:36]
Lauren Everts
That's a really good idea because like I can imagine like, say I liked a certain, like I'll just make this up like one of the Ninja Turtles or something. You have someone build it and then you can sign it for your kids.
- [68:45]
Jodie Sweetin
Sign it. And like do, you know, a few little videos, like those time lapse videos of you building it so that they see that you actually got to like, you did it.
- [68:53]
Lauren Everts
Go trademark it, right? Chat GPT and trademark.
- [68:56]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, no, I, I just, I, I'm actually building a full house LEGO set that we have in the legos ideas competition right now.
- [69:03]
Michael Bostic
See, if you built that and signed it and it was.
- [69:05]
Jodie Sweetin
Well, we are building it and trying to get it made into an actual LEGO set that they sell, which is the LEGO ideas thing. Basically, people submit ideas and then you have to get all these votes. Well, I think it should be the.
- [69:17]
Lauren Everts
Front of the house. The bunny, the bunny on the wall.
- [69:21]
Jodie Sweetin
Can you get a bunny? Oh, no, it is. So it's the front door, the living room, the kitchen with a wall that comes down in the kitchen with the car. You can back the car through the kitchen.
- [69:32]
Lauren Everts
Oh, that's cool.
- [69:33]
Jodie Sweetin
It's got the staircase, everything. Yeah, that was the one that we really focused on because that's like the, I mean the couch everything is like so iconic. No, yeah, lego tinyurl. Like lego ideas.com, go look it up and people can find the full house Lego set from me and John Sosis.
- [69:51]
Michael Bostic
Who'S a. I'm not kidding. I think we should pull this clip and we should send it to the LEGO people. I'm sure somebody here knows where. I'm not kidding. We could see if this could be cool.
- [69:58]
Jodie Sweetin
Yeah. Oh, no. We've been big upping it on my, like, we're I think very like 2,500 votes away from making the 10,000 mark. And once you make the 10,000 mark, then I believe it goes to Lego itself or something like that to like a committee. Right, right.
- [70:15]
Lauren Everts
What else are you working on right now that lights you up, that gets you excited?
- [70:18]
Jodie Sweetin
One of the things that I'm doing that I love, you know, like I said, stand up comedy. But I have this really fun and ridiculous show that I do here in la. It's a live comedy show. It's called Smoke show with a comedy Pageant. And we take three comedians and put them through the most fucked up, ridiculous beauty pageant that you've ever seen. And it's hilarious.
- [70:42]
Lauren Everts
Like, give me an example of what you mean.
- [70:44]
Jodie Sweetin
Okay, so one of the things that we do, one of our favorite segments is the mystery talent box. So my producers and I come with up, up with talents that they will have to perform but they don't know what it is.
- [70:57]
Lauren Everts
Got it.
- [70:57]
Jodie Sweetin
So like last time we had around we somebody pulled out an auctioneer. But then I gave them what they would be auctioning off, which was some really strange tentacle dildo and they had to like auction it off. And it was Taylor, you should have went. But it was hilarious. Like, and then, you know, you get people, you're like, okay, you've gotta, you know, whatever. Or sing an opera in Italian. And they're, you know, just fun stuff like that. We have a bathing suit competition where people have to blindly pick bathing suits out of a box and then assemble them in 30 seconds however they can. We do a lot of really fun, ridiculous stuff. It's here in LA. We have another show October 18th at Bespoke on Fairfax. And then we do like monthly shows.
- [71:44]
Lauren Everts
And then you also have your podcast, right?
- [71:46]
Jodie Sweetin
I have my podcast, how rude. Tanneritos. I'm super excited with that. It's been doing really well. We're on like halfway through season five of Full House of the Rewatch. So I think we've done. I don't know how they break up podcast seasons anymore, but we're Five and a half seasons into Full House of Watching, so we've made it pretty far.
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Lauren Everts
You're very accomplished. I'm a forever fan of vice president.
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Michael Bostic
Oh, I'm Stark.
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Jodie Sweetin
Well, you're president in my book, so thank you.
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Michael Bostic
That is, you know, you got the.
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Jodie Sweetin
If I ever started up again, though, I'll give you a call.
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Lauren Everts
I mean, I was all in. Where can everyone find you to say hi?
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Jodie Sweetin
They can find me on Instagram, Odysseweetin, or you can check out How Rude Podcast.
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Lauren Everts
Or wait, can you. When you say How Rude Podcast, can you say it in your voice as the podcast?
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Jodie Sweetin
How rude. There you go.
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Michael Bostic
She's like, oh, great.
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Jodie Sweetin
There you go. See, I told you three things. How rude. No one'll talk to me all day.
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Michael Bostic
Lauren's not gonna say it right now, but I know.
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Lauren Everts
Well, it's a childhood trait.
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Jodie Sweetin
Absolutely.
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Michael Bostic
Being told by you that she's the president of the Jody fan Club.
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Lauren Everts
You don't even know. And then Uncle Jesse, between you and Uncle Jesse, like, it's like, that's it.
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Jodie Sweetin
Your dreams have been accomplished.
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Lauren Everts
They have been accomplished.
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Michael Bostic
You can quit now. Shut it all down.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yeah, shut it all down. Shut it all down.
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Lauren Everts
So many outfits. I copied. When you said you guys are looking at the outfits, I'm like, oh, my.
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Jodie Sweetin
God, I copied up the outfits. Oh, yeah. I think Andrea and I were talking about maybe doing a costume contest this year, like, for the podcast, having people submit, hit the best costumes from when.
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Lauren Everts
There was a little. Or now.
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Jodie Sweetin
Well, she does a Kimmy Gibbler costume contest every year where people dress like Kimmy, and it's amazing. So we're talking about doing one this year. Or she and I were talking about dressing up as each other's characters.
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Lauren Everts
You know what Full House is? I always don't say this. Right. What's the perennial?
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Michael Bostic
Perennial?
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Lauren Everts
Perennial. It's a perennial seller.
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Jodie Sweetin
Yes.
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Lauren Everts
It's something that. It doesn't matter how old, how young. It's like, you can just. You can watch it now, right? You can watch it then. It's always iconic. Yeah.
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Jodie Sweetin
And there's, like, new generations sort of coming every, you know, every few years. Somebody that's our age is like, oh, my God, I just introduced my kids to, you know, Full House, and. Or they. The kids watched Fuller House, and then the parents were like, oh, if you like that, go back and watch the original, you know? So it's crazy.
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Lauren Everts
I need to watch Fuller House.
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Jodie Sweetin
Okay.
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Lauren Everts
That's what. So my.
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Jodie Sweetin
I haven't watched those ones either.
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Lauren Everts
So don't you got to do a rewatch of that.
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Jodie Sweetin
And then.
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Lauren Everts
But also, I. Is my daughter old enough to introduce her to Full House? She's five.
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Jodie Sweetin
Oh, yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Okay.
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Jodie Sweetin
It's made for four kids. Yeah. There's nothing. No five year old. I mean, I was five and I got the jokes, so I think it'll be. I think you'll get it.
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Lauren Everts
Okay. I'm gonna introduce my daughter to that. Because it's also low sensory.
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Michael Bostic
Wonderful.
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Jodie Sweetin
Super low sensory. It's mellow. It's something you can do together that you won't hate, you know? Like, trust me. I remember watching things with my kids, and I was like, if I have to watch this one more time, I'm going to stab my. My eyeballs out with a fork.
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Lauren Everts
And then when you're done, you can go to Fuller House.
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Jodie Sweetin
Exactly.
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Lauren Everts
I love it.
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Jodie Sweetin
There you go.
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Lauren Everts
You're amazing. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Jodie Sweetin
Oh, my gosh. My pleasure. Thank you for.
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Michael Bostic
Thank you for doing this.
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Jodie Sweetin
This was so much fun. And I'm like, boy, did we go on a journey.