Kyle Richards On The Truth About Her Life, Family, & What You Don't See On RHOBH

Summary

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The Bossticks: Kyle Richards On The Truth About Her Life, Family, & What You Don't See On RHOBH

Podcast Hosts: Lauryn Bosstick, Michael Bosstick
Guest: Kyle Richards
Air Date: March 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this rich and revealing episode, Lauryn and Michael Bosstick sit down with Kyle Richards—actress, entrepreneur, longtime Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) cast member, and mother of four. Kyle shares the unvarnished truth about her upbringing, family life, motherhood, career evolution, and lessons learned from her years on reality TV. The conversation is candid, humorous, and at times deeply emotional, offering listeners a unique window into Kyle’s real world—far beyond what is seen on RHOBH.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Motherhood, Family Dynamics, and Upbringing

• Early Motherhood and Family Chaos:

  • Kyle had her first daughter, Farrah, at 19. Her four daughters are spaced over two decades, making for a vibrant, dynamic household. She candidly shared, “I'm someone who can handle a lot at once…like happy chaos. I do well with that, so I really enjoy that.” [01:13]
  • She regrets not having more children in between due to challenging times, divorce, and remarriage.

• Parenting Style & Hands-On Approach:

  • Never used nannies or drivers; was anxious about others caring for her children and loved being a present mother (“My anxiety didn’t allow me to have anyone help me” [02:00]).
  • Emphasizes the importance of being off phones and fully present with children, reminiscing about park days when she gave her daughters undivided attention. [02:51]
  • Wants her daughters to eventually let her babysit their future kids, despite her own former reluctance to delegate childcare.

• Reflections on Body Image & Insecurity:

  • Encourages mothers not to agonize over post-baby weight or self-image: “One day we're gonna wish we look like this.” [04:02]
  • Emphasizes embracing the present moment and looking kindly at oneself.

Early Career, Childhood, and Family Business

• Start as a Child Actor:

  • Began on Little House on the Prairie at 5, acted in movies such as Halloween at 7.
  • Talks about her mother’s driven, sometimes tough, “stage mom” energy—“She was like the original Kris Jenner.” [08:56]
  • Her mother’s goal was partly to help shy Kyle become more outgoing.

• Colorful Family Tales:

  • Shares stories of childhood entrepreneurship—her sisters setting up “stores” at home, managing unemployment checks from acting jobs, and a car-washing business (even as known TV kids). [07:45]
  • Anecdotes demonstrate humor, independence, and a unique family dynamic.

Transition to Reality TV & “The Real Housewives”

• How RHOBH Happened:

  • Casting followed a memorable E! True Hollywood Story interview about niece Paris Hilton. Initially reluctant—“I don’t want to do reality television, I’m an actress” [10:11]—but found herself intrigued by the opportunity.
  • Helped cast early cast members and assumed it would highlight “home with my kids and playing and having fun.” She admits: “I did not know what I was getting myself into.” [11:14]

• Would She Do It Again?:

  • Yes, despite ups and downs—“I appreciate and I acknowledge the things that it has done for me. It’s opened a lot of doors.” [11:41]
  • Used the platform to launch other ventures (e.g., her production company “House of 18” and the series “American Woman”); shares insights into turning Housewives exposure into business/creative opportunities.

• Staying Authentic:

  • Credits her staying power to authenticity—“I’m a very normal, real person,” in contrast to RH personalities who become “caricatures” or “cartoon characters.” [13:25, 14:09]
  • On reality TV personas: “I see that all the time…when I see someone coming in with an agenda and this persona, I see right through that. It is painful for me to sit through.” [15:08]
  • Believes relatability, not performance, keeps her connected to viewers.

• On New Housewives/Fake Ventures:

  • Skeptical of newcomers who see Housewives as a business springboard: “You will never last if you’re not being yourself.” [18:11]
  • Admits only a minority succeed long-term via platform-building.

The Reality of Public Scrutiny

• Extreme Public Exposure:

  • Talks about the invasive side of reality TV—audiences “feel you owe them everything.” [35:13]
  • Shares how fans analyze everything: “They’ll send me a screenshot and say, ‘Oh, I saw you had this shampoo in your shower.’” [34:26]
  • Observes that fans feel especially entitled to scrutinize reality stars’ private lives compared to podcasters or non-scripted personalities.

• Resilience Against Criticism:

  • “Neither all the hate nor all the love really means anything.” [37:15]
  • Endures negative attention with equanimity, referencing the abuse nieces Paris, Britney, and Lindsay suffered from tabloids and paparazzi. “I don't know how those girls survived.” [38:48]
  • Over time, says, “You just become desensitized. We're just totally flatlined.” [39:38]

Marriage, Separation, and Family Stability

• Kyle & Mauricio: Separation With Grace:

  • Candid about her current separation (“We don’t live together, but we haven’t done any paperwork” [40:49]). They have “a lot of respect for each other and a lot of love,” aiming for amicable co-parenting. [42:14]
  • On people’s assumptions and projections: “Everybody has a comment and a perspective. Everybody feels they’re entitled to tell you guys what to do.” [43:57]
  • On future reconciliation: “TBD…The longer things go on like this, it seems harder… just hard to accept or acknowledge because it is such a big part of our identities.” [42:54–43:21]

• Raising Grounded Kids in LA:

  • Focused on hard work, humility, and financial wisdom (“We would tell her, one day we’re gonna have a house, but we have to have enough cushions in the bank.” [31:58])
  • Open conversations about privilege: “There’s people that have a lot more than my kids, and people have a lot less. And that’s something that we talk about all the time.” [50:22]

Health, Sobriety, and Wellness

• On Sobriety:

  • Sober almost four years (“July 15th, that’s four years” [50:46]). It wasn’t about heavy drinking, but hangxiety—and loss of a best friend—which pushed her to stop.
  • Feels “so good” and calls it a “superpower”: “When they're saying things, I’m like, that’s not what happened, let me tell you, because I was the only one not drinking last night.” [59:31]
  • Refuses to draw arbitrary timelines: “I never put a timeline on it because I just didn't want to do that to myself. But now I would be so disappointed if I did drink.” [62:58]

• Fitness & Biohacking:

  • Embraces weight training, peptides (GHK-CU, BPC157), hormone replacement (pellets), and red light therapy. “If I can take a peptide and it’s gonna…take away lines and use my red light therapy mask, oh, I’m doing every single thing.” [66:27]
  • Candid about insecurities and goals, wanting “healthy from the inside out.” [66:46]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Relatability and Realness:
  “A lot of comedians…will always say to me, you’re so difficult to do because you’re actually a real person.” —Kyle Richards [13:25]
• On Raising Strong Daughters:
  “You get out of your kids that you put into them…my girls are my best friends. They are my favorite people in the world to spend my time with.” —Kyle Richards [46:09]
• On Leaving Her Marriage in ‘Gray Area’:
  “We just…don't live together, but we haven't done any paperwork...We’ve just been doing it on our own terms, in our own time.” —Kyle Richards [40:49–42:14]
• On Handling Judgment and Fame:
  “All the love…all the hate, neither of it really means anything.” —Kyle Richards [37:15]
• On Self-Development & Wellness:
  “Not drinking is a superpower…I feel so good.” —Kyle Richards [59:22, 59:28]
• On the State of Housewives Franchises:
  “We are monks in Beverly Hills, guys. The real Housewives of Beverly Hills are monks at this point.” —Kyle Richards [60:58]
• On Considering a Family Podcast:
  “Maybe there’s a podcast in your future…I actually, really, actually do want to do that. I’ve thought about maybe doing one with my four daughters.” —Kyle Richards [76:19]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Motherhood & Parenting Philosophy: [00:49–04:21]
• Career before RHOBH & Family Stories: [04:21–10:32]
• Transition to Reality TV: [10:32–15:08]
• Being Authentic on TV: [13:17–15:10]
• Public Scrutiny and Coping with Fame: [33:07–39:38]
• Marriage, Separation, and Co-Parenting: [39:48–44:26]
• Raising Grounded Children in LA: [46:09–50:44]
• On Sobriety and Health Routine: [50:46–59:31]
• Biohacking, Fitness, and Aging: [63:54–66:59]
• Production Company and New Ventures: [70:37–72:57]
• Reflecting on a Public Life and Podcast Plans: [75:28–77:59]

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

The episode is a treasure trove for fans and newcomers alike—a rare window into the real life, mindset, and values of Kyle Richards. Through laughter and candor, she champions authenticity, resilience, and the importance of family. Whether reflecting on her “happy chaos” motherhood, her ability to turn fame into creative ventures, her evolving relationship with Mauricio, or her commitment to self-care, Kyle comes across as both down-to-earth and deeply self-aware.

The Bossticks’ conversational, playful yet probing interview style draws out the best in their guest, making for an episode as entertaining as it is insightful.

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For those interested in more, follow Kyle on Instagram [@kylerichards18], watch her projects via her production company House of 18, and, possibly in the near future, look out for a Richards family podcast!

Transcript

[Lauren Bostic]

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostic. Together, they are the Bostics.

[Michael Bostic]

The Bostics are interviewing Kyle Richards. What an icon. Oh, you'll love this episode. Actress, television personality, entrepreneur, mother of four. She is a household name. She is an original cast member of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. As we know, Emma, housewives connoisseur and Kyle Richards exceeded my expectations. We are gonna talk about living authentically, motherhood, new ventures, raising strong daughters, reality TV secrets, and family life. So let's get into it. Kyle Richards, welcome to the Bostix.

[Karina]

Tell me the separations of the children again.

[Kyle Richards]

Okay, well, I had my first baby, Farrah, at 19 years old. I was a mommy at 19.

[Karina]

That's crazy.

[Kyle Richards]

Then I was in my 20s with the next, and then I was 30 with the next one, and then almost 40 with the last one.

[Karina]

And you wish you squeezed two more in.

[Kyle Richards]

Yes, I do. I wish I'd had more in between, but Sophia was so difficult.

[Karina]

Well, she was.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, Farah, first of all, I was so young, and then I had to wait and, you know, I got divorced, and then I got remarried. So I had a window there where, you know, obviously, that's why there's that gap. But, yeah, I wish I had had more in between. But Sophia was challenging. I thought, okay, I guess I'm done. And then they, you know, they get older and they go to school, and you're like, I can do this again. And I'm someone who's can handle a lot at once. Like, I, I, I. I can have the kids and the dogs and, like, a lot, like, happy chaos going. I do well with that, so I really enjoy that. And I liked all of it, the pregnancy and everything.

[Karina]

You're gonna be such a good grandma when they all have kids.

[Kyle Richards]

I know.

[Karina]

Like, I can see them just leaving all the kids at your house.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, I'm so scared that they're gonna be like me because I never let anybody watch my kids or touch my kids. I. And I'm so worried that they're gonna be like me.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, that's like us.

[Kyle Richards]

No, they went everywhere with me. I never had a nanny. I never had someone who drove my kids to school. Wow. So when I see. And by the way, shame anybody who does do that, I Now, you know, people are working. There's working moms. I get all that. But, like, I was honestly, I was just too OCD and too afraid. My anxiety didn't allow me to have anyone help me, but I'm so scared they're gonna be like that and not let me take the baby.

[Karina]

They will, they will.

[Michael Bostic]

I know Farah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, Well, I think because you're so hands on and they know you can handle it, like, you know, then they'll be more inclined to do it. Like, if I leave my kids with my dad, I'm. I think he will forget. Like, that they're even there.

[Kyle Richards]

That me too.

[Lauren Bostic]

I. I know he will forget.

[Kyle Richards]

I'm so. I worry. I'm already worried about how they're gonna be as I know they're going to be amazing moms, but I see, like, I used to go into the park with my kids. I loved it. And, you know, I'm actually an introvert. So for me to go into the park with my baby alone, you know, the two of us on a blanket and bring like a picnic and toys and talk. I wasn't looking at social media.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

I was only playing with my children and like, having that one on one time with them and it was such a beautiful time. And I feel like that it really, you know, affected who they became as, you know, children and adults. And now I'm looking at these people and they're like, the stroller is closed all the way. They don't even realize. Blankets covering the baby's face. They're scrolling. Look at Instagram. They're wheeling. There's a stroller. I'm like, pay attention. Like, you need to talk to your child and like, teach your child and like, you know, communicate with them.

[Karina]

I'm screaming, get the EMF away from the baby's head. The baby's skull is. Is way thinner than a human skull. You cannot put the phone by the baby's head.

[Lauren Bostic]

I can't go down this rabbit hole with you again.

[Karina]

Just saying. Kyle is agreeing a different way. She's agreeing. It's when I try when I'm with my kids to get off my phone. I think it's important. She's right.

[Kyle Richards]

It's really important.

[Karina]

I agree with that.

[Kyle Richards]

But back to what you said about the B weight. You will never look back and think, I. Oh, my God. I mean, when I look back and think, I can't believe I was insecure about that. It's so stupid. And I see these women and they're. They have like some extra weight on them from having a baby and they look so beautiful. I'm like, why do you don't feel beautiful?

[Karina]

I don't feel beautiful with 60 pounds on me. I just. You don't.

[Kyle Richards]

You don't. But when you look back one day you're gonna think, why did I feel like that?

[Karina]

Okay, maybe. I mean, listen, I know you feel

[Kyle Richards]

like this in the moment, but I'm just telling you. I mean, and you're so gorgeous. This. Always tell my kids, and, you know, and myself too, that when I feel insecure about being in a bathing suit or something. Like, one day we're gonna wish we look like this.

[Karina]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. Great advice. Okay, so I have been a fan of you Pre Housewives.

[Kyle Richards]

Thank you for that.

[Michael Bostic]

Yes.

[Karina]

There's a whole career that happened. Little House on the Prairie. Love.

[Kyle Richards]

My first TV series. Yeah.

[Karina]

Okay. And also, I just finished Melissa Gilbert's book. And then I think she actually wrote about working with you. I wanna say she did.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, I'm sure, because I started that series when I was five years old.

[Karina]

Wow. So little. And then you also were. I saw you. This is so random. I remember seeing you grown up on like, an E. True Hollywood special for Paris. And I remember looking at you and being like, she's so beautiful. And I kind of, like, followed you. I don't know how. And then you appeared on Housewives. And I was so excited.

[Kyle Richards]

That interview actually led to the Housewives. And it was weird because, you know, like you said, I started out as a child actor since I'm little. I mean, my first TV series, I was five, but I'd already been working before that. Even so I was like three and four. And then I went on to do movies from there. You know, my first movie was at 5 years old. And I did, like, scary movies, Halloween when I was seven and started like, you know, did you know that?

[Karina]

Did you know she's the little girl?

[Lauren Bostic]

I didn't realize that, but obviously I've seen the movie a million times. And now I gotta, like, go back and look at that.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, that was really cool.

[Karina]

Then the Witch Mountain.

[Kyle Richards]

One escaped. Which mountain returned to which mountain? So I'd done that my whole life. And, you know, that was my career. And I feel like some people. Maybe some people. A lot of people do realize that, but some people don't realize that too. Wait, why am I saying this? Why do we get on?

[Karina]

You're just. We're just talking about how to your Pre Housewives. And also, another thing I find so interesting about you is your mother was such a strong force. It seems like she was. She seems like she had a real personality.

[Kyle Richards]

She was really strong, really tough. Aries, Irish. I mean, fire across the board. Then she. When I look Back now, like, she was a single mom. You know, she and my. She and my father were separated when I was like three years old or something. And she had a lot of pressure on her with her daughter. So, you know, she had to be tough and she didn't want us to ever, you know, be scared. And she wants to be independent. So she was trying to be a good role model to us. And in doing that, she was extra, extra tough, which I don't know if it really helped me.

[Karina]

You guys all have this funny personality. Is that from her?

[Kyle Richards]

My mom was really funny. Yes. Yeah.

[Karina]

You said on the show that Kathy was like, would set up a store. You have to tell this story.

[Kyle Richards]

So when we were little, Kathy was the oldest. So when she was like, say, 15, Kim was 10, I was 5. And my mom would let Kim and I have our unemployment checks when our shows are on hiatus and we would go and like, get our little unemployment checks. When I think back to that is really weird. I remember the man at, like, the candy stand at the unemployment place. So Kathy knew that we would have cash. And Kathy was like always wanting to buy things and spend money. So she would set up a store in the house and she would go around the house. And my mom collected like, you know, like baccarat and lalique and all these little things that we were not allowed to touch. And she would say, you know, there's a sale starting in 10 minutes. And Kim would go and she had lifted up the corner of the carpet and. And hid her money under the carpet and it was lined up and Kim would like, wash it and iron it. Oh, no, that's not good. But so she would get the money and then we'd go to the sale and the fake sale. We would buy all these things that we're so excited we get to buy and keep. And then my mom would, of course, would come in and scream, who took all this from the living room and take it all back. But then Kathy had already spent all the money.

[Lauren Bostic]

So she actually took the money from you and went and spent it in other places.

[Kyle Richards]

Yes.

[Karina]

I mean, this is like, these are big personalities for kids to have to be around. Your mom must have a big personality.

[Kyle Richards]

She had a very big personality. And then Kim and I had a car washing business.

[Karina]

Okay.

[Kyle Richards]

That even though we were on TV series, we didn't think about that at the time. Like, that we're like rolling up these people's homes. Like, do you want us to wash your car for $5?

[Karina]

They're like, aren't you the girl.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, but we weren't thinking about that because we didn't think about being on television. You know, we just thought we were like, you know, we just want to be normal people and we would, like, wash their cars and leave the soap on and, like, get in trouble for the neighbors.

[Guest or Additional Host]

So did your mother push you into

[Lauren Bostic]

acting or did you. Was that a pursuit of your own?

[Kyle Richards]

No, my mom actually did, and I'm actually really grateful she did because my mom studied at the Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York.

[Karina]

Okay.

[Kyle Richards]

And then she was also a very young mom. And then, you know, she was wheeling Kathy in a stroller through New York City. That's where they all are from. And people were stopping her on the street. She's so beautiful. She's so beautiful. She should be modeling. So my mom put Kathy in modeling and it became commercials. And then Kim came along, and then it was the same with Kim. And Kim did, like, a carpet commercial, crawling on the carpet. Six months old.

[Karina]

Wow.

[Kyle Richards]

So my mom was kind of living vicariously through her kids and moved everyone to Hollywood.

[Karina]

She was like the original Kris Jenner.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, literally. And Kris and my mom were very close, actually.

[Karina]

Oh, I didn't know that then.

[Kyle Richards]

I was born, you know, in la, and then my mom was like, well, Kyle's the shy one, and I don't want her to be left out. Her sisters are, you know, on these TV shows as Kathy was also acting.

[Karina]

So did it push you out of your comfort zone to not be shy?

[Kyle Richards]

It did my mom. It was. For my mom, it was two things. It was. She didn't want me to be left out because my sisters were working like that, and because I was shy, she thought it would help me overcome my shyness. But I thought every audition was a doctor's office. I would have a panic attack on top of being shy.

[Karina]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kyle Richards]

And I'm not really sure why. I think they had a white jacket on the first one or something. And it, like trauma di.

[Karina]

You, like, remember it being feeling like a doctor's office. When you got on E for that special, how did Housewives approach you from that?

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, right. That's how that question started, this whole thing.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

So that's the ADHD that runs in my family. Coming up.

[Karina]

He gets it.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, she's this. She's a self diagnosed. She's going.

[Kyle Richards]

So, yeah, they asked me to do that interview. And then it became like the. You know, somehow I became the spokesperson for our family because Kathy, like, you know, felt uncomfortable to talk and whatever so she said, can you talk to, what, a Greta Von Suster? And, like, Barbara Walter? She's always the one talking.

[Karina]

You were good at it.

[Kyle Richards]

I was good at it. I was comfortable. And I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I just. So then I ended up in that role, and then I did that E2 Hollywood story about Paris and Nikki, actually. And then someone saw Casting Person from the Real houses of Beverly Hills, and they reached out, and I was like, I don't want to do reality television. I'm an actress, and I don't want to do that. I had taken some time off because Portia was just born.

[Karina]

That's right. She had just been born.

[Kyle Richards]

Just been born.

[Karina]

So what makes you decide to pull the trigger on Real Housewives? Do you watch the OC1?

[Kyle Richards]

Well, I started watching because it was on hold because they kept saying, we don't have a green light yet.

[Karina]

Okay.

[Kyle Richards]

And in the meantime, do you have any friends? And, like, I'm like, you know, putting together, like, a little group, helping them, and, like, while I was waiting to hear if we got greenlit, because they didn't think, if you have OC Why do you need Beverly Hills? And I was like, well, if you have New York, why do you need New Jersey? Hello. There's a big difference here.

[Karina]

Big difference.

[Kyle Richards]

So I started watching some of the shows, but I was like, oh, that's different for them. I wouldn't be fighting with anybody. I'm just gonna be home with my kids and playing and having fun, and my kids are so cute. Who wouldn't want to see my kids? I did not know what I was getting myself into.

[Karina]

If you did know what you were getting yourself into, like, say you now is giving you advice, then what would you say?

[Kyle Richards]

I would still have done it.

[Karina]

You would?

[Kyle Richards]

Yes. I mean, there's been times, of course, I would probably give you a different answer, but sitting here today, yes. I mean, I would do it again.

[Karina]

So even though through all the challenges and all the ups and downs and all the fights, if you could, you still just. There's something about it that you just love.

[Kyle Richards]

I mean, I wouldn't say there's something about it that I just love. I appreciate and I acknowledge the things that it has done for me. Yeah, it's opened a lot of doors, you know, for me, you know, for producing. I just started my production company, house of 18, and, you know, that was how I was able to produce American Woman. And I have two shows in development right now and two others that are about to go into development some. That all happened because the housewives and people literally would say, oh, you know, they want to meet you because they're a fan. And then I'd meet them and tell them stories. I'm like, oh, we want to make that show. I was like, oh, this is how I'm going to do this. I can come up with my ideas and, like, sell a show. If they want to meet and talk, you know, because they're a fan, then I'm going to turn this into something else because I don't want to be doing this forever. And that's what I love to do, is to create.

[Karina]

You know, I've talked to a lot of people off air because we have

[Michael Bostic]

similar makeup, hair, Jason, Karina, Irene and Chris right here.

[Karina]

Yes.

[Kyle Richards]

That's why we look like clones today.

[Karina]

I know we look like clones. Can you tell? You have the same makeup in hair.

[Kyle Richards]

Yes.

[Karina]

But I talked to a lot of them and they just say the nicest things about you. And they said, I've heard this from multiple people, that when you go to BravoCon, you are like Oprah if you're like the most famous housewife out of everyone. And I've heard this not just from them, from multiple people, that people.

[Lauren Bostic]

It goes nuts when you go there.

[Karina]

Crazy. What is it? I mean, I know what my own opinion. But what do you think it is that makes people go so wild for you? Like, you're like this rock star.

[Kyle Richards]

I mean, it is so strange, I have to say, going to something like that. Yeah, sure. But I think, well, first of all, I'm the longest running, consecutive running housewife in the history of the whole franchise of all across the board.

[Karina]

Okay?

[Kyle Richards]

So I've been there the longest and I've never left, and I've never been put on pause or fire.

[Lauren Bostic]

So 15 straight, no breaks, no pause.

[Kyle Richards]

I've never called in sick. I've never canceled an interview. I've never not shown up last season, not this season. I walked off in the middle of filming and was like, goodbye. But other than that, that was my. You know, I think, honestly is, you know, a lot of comedians who like, their shtick is to make fun of us or impersonate us, they will always say to me, you're so difficult to do because you're actually a real person. And, you know, I think a lot of the. I mean, not to, you know, shade anybody, which, because what I'm about to say may sound like a shade, but it's also what makes them great tv. But there's like they're caricatures. They're like. They're characters. They really are.

[Lauren Bostic]

This is the headline of this. That's the entrance.

[Kyle Richards]

Calls every housewife a cartoon character.

[Lauren Bostic]

You know, that's what'll happen.

[Kyle Richards]

You know, of course that's what's gonna. But a lot of these people, I'm saying, are like caricatures I adore, but, you know, like I said, it makes great tv. But I am actually, in spite of doing what I do, I'm a very normal, real person.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

And I think. I don't know, maybe that's why. I have no idea.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, it seems like. I mean, the only way you've probably been able to sustain that long and that consistently is by being yourself. We talk about it even in the context of this show. Cause we've done it for a long time. It's a lot easier to just show up and just be who you are and just talk as opposed to trying to curate a person or experience. Like, I think the people that do that, it starts to fall apart over time.

[Kyle Richards]

And I see that all the time.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Host]

I'm sure.

[Kyle Richards]

And when I see that, I'm just like, oh, God, I can't. You know, I mean, I'm willing to make mistakes and, you know, because that's part. I mean, it's life, you know, I. If I'm being real, I'm going to have great moments. I'm going to have bad moments. But when I see someone coming in with an agenda.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

And this Persona they want to project, and, I mean, I just see right through that it is painful for me to sit through.

[Karina]

You know, I can tell when you find it painful. Do you know, As a viewer, I can tell.

[Kyle Richards]

I'll tell you off air.

[Karina]

I can tell when you can't as a viewer, because I feel like I know you. And I think that as a viewer, the reason, and I'm a Housewives practitioner, is because I. I think people see themselves in you. And what I mean by that is like, we've all had drama with our sister. We've all had stuff with our significant other. You're a mother. It's very easy for me to pull moments throughout all the seasons you've done where I can relate to it.

[Kyle Richards]

Right.

[Karina]

Well, that's what I think it is.

[Kyle Richards]

I think it's being relatable. Yes. I think people. I do hear that a lot. Yeah. I don't know. I think that that probably has a lot to do with it. And I think when Beverly Hills first started, they Thought, this is gonna be the most fake phony of all the franchise. And all of a sudden, they're like, wow, these are all real people with actual, real problems. I mean, season one, it was. You know, there was stuff with my sister and dealing with her alcoholism and all that that was, you know, we were trying to keep under wraps. And then it was Camille with her divorce, and then what Taylor was going through, and, you know, people expected us to be fake. And all of a sudden, like, oh, these are actually real people.

[Karina]

Right.

[Kyle Richards]

But since then, you know, I've watched people come in pretending to do certain businesses and trying just. Just the facade. I can't. And I'm not going to be mean, contrary to what people may like to say, you know, I'm not. I'm not. And I will never hit below the belt. The things I could say that are going through my mind sometimes, which I'm sure people wish I would say, but I'm not there to hurt anybody or ruin their businesses or, you know, their marriages or anything like that. But I'm like, give me a break. But I will have to call you out if you're.

[Karina]

We can see it on your face.

[Lauren Bostic]

You could say that. You could say what you were thinking

[Guest or Additional Host]

here on the show.

[Lauren Bostic]

Nobody will pick it up.

[Karina]

All you have to do is watch the show. You could see it if you could see it on your face that you're

[Michael Bostic]

like, oh, my God, certain scenes.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah. I just can't. I just can't. I mean, sometimes that is a laugh. I'm like. I mean, just. I don't know. They're just coming on there to. It's different now. There's people coming on to start a business, you know, And I literally was there just showing. I was just like, this is my life. I wasn't there selling anything. I'm not plugging anything. I'm just, like, living. And then people come in and like, oh, you know, they've watched all these years and they're fans of the show, and it makes them interact differently.

[Karina]

I couldn't do it. I could never do Housewives because I know the game.

[Lauren Bostic]

Like, what's the percentage? What is the percentage you think of people who come on with the intention to, like, build a platform or business that actually have success versus the ones that kind of come and just, like, crash and burn and fizzle out?

[Kyle Richards]

By doing the percentage, I'm going to say, well, the crash and burn is probably not that high. I'm gonna go with 30%. But the 70%, their businesses don't necessarily always do.

[Karina]

Well, can you tell right away if it's gonna be a crash and burn?

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, because I think if your sole intention is to just, like, extract that kind of value while also not providing good stable, like, it's.

[Kyle Richards]

You will never last if you're not being yourself.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

I think Bethany, keep that up.

[Karina]

You saw her build the business.

[Kyle Richards]

Exactly.

[Karina]

That's why I think everyone wants to, like, build like, something like she's done. But you watched her build the business in front of you and you watched her struggle. So you were invested as an audience.

[Lauren Bostic]

The real question is how many of the husbands come through unscathed? I feel like a lot of these husbands, they just get nailed.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, I can tell you, I inadvertently. I was not a. Trying to, you know, like, for what I do as an actor, whatever. There was nothing I could really promote because in the beginning, the show was so different. I'm getting to the husband part. Sorry. With the adh.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, no, no, go ahead.

[Kyle Richards]

That, you know, we weren't supposed to acknowledge. We were just like housewives. I wasn't. They didn't really want me to talk about the fact that I was an actor. And, you know, so it was, like, weird, but so I felt like, you know, I can't promote that. But, you know, we were starting the agency and they saw the struggle. And the reason it became a storyline is because of the situation with my family and the, you know, what it caused and created. Otherwise it would never probably even been covered. So, I mean, it's not lost on me that, that, you know, when we started the agency, it was one office on South Beverly Drive with five agents, and Farrah and Mauricio were two of those.

[Karina]

I didn't know that.

[Kyle Richards]

Yes. And now there's over 150 offices all over the world, Europe, everywhere. And, you know, that the brand recognition is huge. So there's, you know, I did not know that. Yeah.

[Karina]

So that's like a silent killer assassin.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, Mauricio's been on here and we talk. I mean, like, the size and scale of what he's accomplished is pretty phenomenal.

[Karina]

There's always a woman, though, behind the man.

[Kyle Richards]

I will say this. He acknowledges that too, which is nice, too. Cause he does acknowledge that woman's the neck.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, when he came on here too, he acknowledged that and said that it was basically you guys doing it together.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, it started. We were, you know, we had no money and we didn't have help or anything, like I said. So we just. He came home one Day. I don't know if he's told us. I think he does talk about this in his book. And he had been fired. He was in the clothing business and he had lost his job. And I could tell he had been crying and it just crushed me. And it was right before Christmas and he had no money. And I was like, we need money to buy Christmas presents for our kids and, you know, the babies. Alexa was six months old and Farrah was seven. So I said, why don't we go and hire a babysitter once a week and we'll go get our real estate license together. And that's what we did. We went to Santa Monica College and got a real estate license together. And it was the best thing that ever happened to him being fired that day. And that's how this. And then I would call him like in this two bedroom condo with now three kids and I'd be like, where are you? And he'd say, I'm at the golf course because there's like nothing going on. I should find something. I was literally a devil. I'd be like, I am not going to live in a two bedroom apartment for the rest of my life with three kids. I mean, Sophia was in our room in a bassinet and he's like, there was nothing going on. Like, I don't care. Find something. And I was like, I need a house. I need to get out of here. So, yeah, you know, we have regular normal struggles, I think.

[Karina]

What was the turning point where you guys started to see momentum with the agency where he was not on the golf course?

[Kyle Richards]

Well, I mean, by the way, he turned that around real quick. He was just, he was a kid at this point. He was 25, what I'm talking about. Wow. So, yes, 25 years old. So he quickly became the number one agent at Kathy, My sister Kathy, my brother in law Rick's real estate company. He became number one. And he would win, you know, number one every year at that holiday party. He would win the trip, the watch, the whatever, everything. And yeah, that's how it all started. So.

[Karina]

And when does he come to you and say, I want to open my own brokerage? Is it a brokerage? Is that the right word?

[Kyle Richards]

I think so. Okay. I don't know if I just own it. I don't know.

[Karina]

When did he decide to open the agency?

[Kyle Richards]

So, well, it was first we wanted to be partners with, you know, Kathy and Rick. They, you know, I shouldn't say they, but like that didn't work out. Let's just say that's where the whole issue started. But we wanted just to be partners. And I should say he because even though I'm obviously part owner because it's my, you know, it's our company together, I very much like he runs that whole show. So he wanted to be a partner with Rick and it didn't end up working out. So then he said I can't work for someone forever, you know. And obviously we had our own kids and we didn't want to be under somebody for the rest of our lives. So people decided to branch out on our own. You know what happens.

[Guest or Additional Host]

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[Lauren Bostic]

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[Karina]

When you guys launched that, how quickly did it start to become this huge thing? Like, what are we not seeing that show?

[Kyle Richards]

I mean, I feel like they did show over these years, I think. I don't really remember now. It's been so long, but it was like, you know, I don't even remember what the second office was, but the. The company getting bigger, and then we needed a bigger space. Like, clearly, we can't stay in this little space on South Beverly Drive. Then we needed a bigger space, and then, oh, you know, now we need more and more. And they kept. People kept coming and coming and coming. And then, you know, honestly, with. With the. We had the best agents there was in town coming. And then with the recognition from the show, like, more people wanted to join. It became like. And they just created this culture within the agency where it was, like, the cool spot to work and be.

[Lauren Bostic]

Is that how we met Farrah? Cause, you know, Farrah's. She helped us with Melissa get in touch when we moved to Texas, but then she sold a condo for us. But is that how we met Farrah?

[Karina]

Did we meet Farah before I met Farah? Because Farrah reached out to me on Instagram and said she loved my blog. And I was like, that was a long time ago. That was a long time ago. And then I. Farrah, and I went to Dantana's and had the Nikki Hilton salad, which is so funny.

[Kyle Richards]

So funny.

[Karina]

And I told her. I was like, your mom needs to get on. At the time, it was called Reward Style. I was like, tell your mom to

[Michael Bostic]

get on Reward Style.

[Karina]

Because I would see your outfits on Beverly Hills, and then I would see other people monetizing off your outfits.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah.

[Karina]

So, like, I would see.

[Kyle Richards]

I'm so not good about this, by the way.

[Karina]

I. I gotta tell you, off air, I would see, like, like, other sites putting, like, your sweater that you're wearing and all your stuff, your iPads, all the things. And I was like, buying your iPads. And then, like, but know you. But you wouldn't get the commission.

[Kyle Richards]

No. And I would repost those people's stories for them. And I was like, I'm not making anything off this, but whatever.

[Karina]

It's like 20,000 clicks. They're making, like, I know. Okay. So I was like, your mom has to get on Reward Style. Anyways, that's kind of how we started becoming friends. And then it just. We've just been friends because.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, the reason I ask is. Cause it was, I think in the earlier days of the agency. And it was doing. It had a footprint and it was doing well, but like, not nearly what it's doing now. And it was like her and a few other people that we know over here locally, but it was like, I think it was just the one office maybe.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, Farah, you know, she's. I mean, she is incredibly. I mean, I'm sure you know this, she's very, very smart. But I have to take a moment to brag. You know, she graduated, she went to NYU and then into usc and she graduated magna cum laude. She's really brilliant. She's an incredible writer too, which is why she loves to read, you know, blogs and things like that. But she immediately, people would love to say, because she's our daughter, she works so hard.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, she's like one of. She's one of the more self motivated people that I've met.

[Kyle Richards]

Unbelievable. The people that stopped me on the street about her, you know, as an agent. And it just. I'm always like, I'm so proud, you know, I mean, I'm so proud.

[Karina]

Yeah, you should be proud of her. She's. And she, she is so down to earth from so many other of the people I've met in la, because I was new to la, I was from San Diego. She's so down to earth and what you see is what you get.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, I think especially because of the profile of the family she comes from. Right. Like, you don't. She doesn't lead with that, I guess, is what I'm saying.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, you know, she. Even though, you know, obviously her dad, you know, successful, a lot of money, and then when I married Mauricio, she has two amazing dads, by the way, to be clear. Two amazing dads. So. But when Mo and I first got married, we didn't have any money. Like, she. That's very much ingrained in her. And we would tell her, you know, one day we're gonna have a house, but we have to have enough cushions in the bank. That's what we would say to her. We have to have enough cushions. Like. Cause we could buy the house. We won't have money in the bank then. So she would always say, you know, how many cushions do we need? How many more cushions do we need? So she was always thinking like that, you know, like, we have to work hard and like, put our money away and save our cushions to buy a house. And she'd say, one day I'm gonna have my own room. I don't have to share And I can turn up my little lamp next to my bed. And, like, she's always been, like, determined to, like, work hard and, you know, so I'm really, I'm. I'm grateful that she has that because by the time we got to Portia, our life was very different.

[Karina]

She is. She is a hard worker.

[Lauren Bostic]

So when you're doing housewives and you're expecting one thing and then it starts to get very personal and very first season aggressive really quickly, what's going through your head? Are you like, this is great. Stay on the course. You're like, I gotta get the hell outta here.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, my gosh. Over the years, there's been so many different things where I've been like, this is not what I was expecting. I mean, everything from season one, like you just said.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

To now. And I think in the beginning, you know, when I had the big blow up with my sister Kim in season one, that was. There was so much stuff, you know, going on off camera that I couldn't say on camera, and I would never say. And I did not expect to be pushed to that limit, even though, you know, anyway, it was a lot, you know, going through that with my sister Kim and everything. But of course, then I'm like, this is just too much, you know, And I remember them coming to me and saying, we're going to show you this. We're going to come to your house and show this to you. And I was.

[Karina]

That's respectful.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah. I mean, our. The production company and Alex Baskin, who's our executive producer, you know, they're. They're not like the other shows. I. I know because I've talked to the other franchises and our production people and producers run things very differently. And they came and they sat with us and, you know, one of the producers even, like, cried with me and. But of course, those moments, I'm like, this is too much. And I can't explain everything because it's, you know, you can't. Like certain family things you just can't share and explain.

[Lauren Bostic]

Were they showing it to you to kind of brace you for what was they were gonna release or to kind of get your input on what they could release?

[Kyle Richards]

No, no, no. We don't have that on screen.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah. So they were like, this is what's coming and what.

[Kyle Richards]

Right. And they felt bad, but it was like, it's literally, it was a season finale. That's how it ended. And it's like, I mean, I learned real quickly that, you know, you don't get to choose what you want shown and what you don't. What you do and don't want shown. But then you. Even now, it's like, it's just too much. Because what happens is when people start to know your life and. And they'll send me a screenshot and say, like, oh, I saw you had this shampoo in your shower, and you're like, oh, what is in the background? I didn't even know. Or I go to get, like, a lip gloss, and the camera's like this, like, hold on, let me see what's in my drawer. My God. Oh, you're stressing me out. Because they are up in your business. And, you know, so sometimes the audience, which, by the way, they're amazing, the fans are very passionate. They're like sports fans. But sometimes it's like, my God, they really feel you owe them everything. And I'm like, where do you draw the line? Where do you draw the line? Because, you know, like, a lot of the girls on the show, they'll keep, like, people they're dating private, off camera, and they don't want to talk about it, and we all just kind of know. We don't say anything. But then all of a sudden, the rules are different. You know, all of a sudden, you're like, wait a minute. Every. No one here has shown and talked about. So it can be very invasive. And the audience does think you signed up for this, is what you hear. You signed up for this. Do you want to see me going to the bathroom, showering, having sex, too? Where do we draw the line?

[Lauren Bostic]

There's something with the platform that you're on that I think has people feeling more entitled than they would with, like. So, for example, we do this show, we don't get that kind of reaction. People like, people probably, you know, they want to know certain things, but they don't feel like they have a say. I don't think in, like, how we live. But with you, it's like you've put yourself out, so now we get to comment on everything, no matter how invasive.

[Karina]

But you're right. Do you want to see the colonoscopy? It's like. It's like they do. You have to set your own. They do.

[Kyle Richards]

They want to see it.

[Karina]

They do want to see it.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, but there's. What I'm saying is there's like, an unspoken maybe rule that's like, if you sign up for that, then now we are entitled to be as invasive as we want to be.

[Kyle Richards]

There's. It's 100% the mindset. And then also there's sort of this, like, I think because of what we represent, like money and. And wealth and the sort of opulence that you're like, screw you. Too bad. You have this problem. Not a lot of sympathy. Yeah. There's no sympathy for you. So you get a lot of that. And some days I'm like, it's very overwhelming. Guess what? I also have really bad days. I have sad days some days. Does it feel sorry for myself? I also feel sorry for myself sometimes, too. On certain days, life gets hard.

[Guest or Additional Host]

Does it rattle you at this point

[Lauren Bostic]

or it's been so long and you've dealt with it for so many years that it's.

[Kyle Richards]

It doesn't rattle me anymore. But I feel disheartened sometimes when I see some comments and I'm like, I mean, honestly, everything in the world today makes you feel like that. I'm just like, what are we living in? But I don't. I'm not affected by. I don't even. I used to, like, block people and, like, I don't even care. Say your rude thing. I don't care. You want to say, I'm ugly, I'm stupid. They hope I'm fired or whatever it is. You know, I learned a long time ago that all the love, like, we just said, the Bravo con of, like, ah, my. And then all the hate, neither one of it really means anything.

[Karina]

Valerie Bertinelli came on the show yesterday, and she said that too. And I have found the most evolved people in this business. You cannot read the positive or the negative.

[Lauren Bostic]

She said, don't read the good or the bad.

[Karina]

You can't read it.

[Kyle Richards]

You're not. You're not so amazing. I remember my best friend Lorene, who's passed away. You know, she's my best friend since I'm 7 years old. And people come up and be like, oh, my God. And say, you know, they go over the top. And she'll be like, why are they acting like that? I'm like, I, I. She said. And she would joke, I'd say, like, she's not so amazing, Cal.

[Guest or Additional Host]

No.

[Lauren Bostic]

And, you know, we just, we were recently speaking to your niece who, like, I mean, Paris used to get nailed in the, like, so bad. Like, maybe worse. Like, probably top five worse than anyone, right? Like, so, like, if you could name five people that got nailed the most, like, she's probably in that five.

[Kyle Richards]

Britney, Lindsey, Paris, that trio that you saw in that famous photo.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

I don't know how those girls survived.

[Karina]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

But we were talking about this a little bit with her, and it's just like at some point, you just gotta block it off. I mean, I don't think people can get away with what they used to get away with anymore in the way that they used to write about those girls.

[Kyle Richards]

I think there's an experience in the comments. They can. Publicly, they couldn't.

[Lauren Bostic]

That's what I'm saying.

[Kyle Richards]

People doing it, this kind of a thing, or like, you know, late night talk shows or getting called out for what they said to these girls. But, like, the comments and things like that. But I think about those three girls specifically all the time. Lindsay, Paris, Brittany.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

Because the bullying and the abuse that these young girls endured at such a young age, it literally could make me, like, get emotional. It was so mean. It was so cruel. And I would see these things about Paris. I would get so mad, like, how do people talk to these people like this? And everything was a lie. Everything was assumed. And, you know, like, it was so maddening. And, like, to me, I was a little kid when she was born. To me, Paris is like my little baby sister, even though she's my niece. And I was like, how do these girls get through that? How did they survive that? And if they can do that, and I'm the age I am, I can survive this, too.

[Karina]

It's wild. I mean, they've got to, like, put some laws or parameters or something around it. It seems to me that the more hate you get, the more resilience you build, though, and you almost become unaffected by it and almost indifferent.

[Kyle Richards]

Just become desensitized. We're just totally flatlined is what happens. We're just like, okay. They want to be like, what else

[Karina]

can you say, right?

[Kyle Richards]

I've had it all. I've heard it all.

[Karina]

Well, you put your marriage out on screen, and everyone fell in love with you guys as a couple, and you guys were married. And I think this is very important to say for 30 years. Right?

[Kyle Richards]

30 years. Long time. I know.

[Karina]

I mean, I might be done after 30 years. That's a long time.

[Lauren Bostic]

I joked the last time I. The last time I saw Mauricio, I joked and I said, do you get a new bracelet for every year? He likes those bracelets in the summer.

[Karina]

Oh, my God.

[Kyle Richards]

His stack. His midlife crisis stack. I saw someone call. I was like, oh, my God. By the way, I mean, that's a good brand name.

[Karina]

Midlife crisis.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah. I'm like, what? I'm. It's so funny because, like, people just love to come up with all of these things. But, yes. I mean, it is a long time to be married and.

[Lauren Bostic]

Long time.

[Karina]

It's a long time to be married and.

[Kyle Richards]

For a long time, you know, was one of the things I was most proud of.

[Karina]

And you guys. You guys are not divorced. You call it a. What it says on here.

[Kyle Richards]

I do. There's a name for that.

[Karina]

There's a name.

[Kyle Richards]

I don't know where you got that from. Is from the Internet, Because I didn't come up with any of that.

[Karina]

Okay, hold on. Let me.

[Kyle Richards]

This is what we didn't do. The conscious young couple, post separation. Post separation.

[Karina]

Is that right?

[Kyle Richards]

Well, we're not legally separated, but we're. We just. We don't live together, but we haven't done any paperwork.

[Karina]

How have you guys managed paperwork?

[Lauren Bostic]

Kind of like. We talk about this all the time. Like, paperwork's kind of a pain. Like, you might as well just. There's a lot of complications, especially with what you guys have built. I would say just, like, maybe just keep it.

[Karina]

If we decide to do a separation,

[Lauren Bostic]

let's just keep it tight.

[Karina]

So much. There's so much to undo.

[Michael Bostic]

It's like a ball of yarn.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah. And then I see people.

[Lauren Bostic]

Doesn't seem like a strategic business move. If we had to.

[Karina]

Yeah, you're just uncouple.

[Lauren Bostic]

We'd have to let it uncouple. Yeah, let's just keep it tight so we don't have to go through all that.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, there's so many people now also on the show this season. You know, I'm seeing, like, what Dorit's going through, and, you know, Rachel Zo is, you know, filed for divorce. And, I mean, everyone just does it their own way. Everyone does it differently. It just depends. Like, you guys get along well, you know, then you're not. Hopefully you can do it amicably and not hurt, you know, your children, you know, and this is gonna be the next headline. Kyle Richards says these women are hurting their children. That's what I'm trying to say. Every separation is different. Every divorce is different. Every relationship is different. And, you know, this is what's working for us so far. And I say so far because obviously we're not going to stay in this gray area.

[Karina]

But how have you guys managed to do it so gracefully? Because he came on our show, and I don't know if you heard the show, but he was really eloquent in the way he talked about you. And I feel like even when you guys are on the show you can feel, it's. It's graceful.

[Guest or Additional Host]

Well, it feels like you guys still

[Lauren Bostic]

have a high respect for each other.

[Kyle Richards]

Listen, I mean, you don't love someone that long and have that kind of relationship with them and just disappears. Like, I mean, I mean, unless one of them is a complete asshole and piece of shit, then I guess that would disappear. You know, we built this beautiful life together, this beautiful family. And. Yeah, I just don't. I mean, I have a lot of respect for him and I have a lot of love for him, so. And vice versa. So there's just been no reason to fight and not. We haven't had somebody, you know, a third party pushing us to, you know, separate or fight a night. So we've just been doing it on our own terms, in our own time.

[Karina]

Will you and Mauricio ever get back together?

[Kyle Richards]

The million dollar question.

[Karina]

What do you think?

[Kyle Richards]

I mean, I'm asked that all the time by everybody. And I mean, listen, like I said, we will not always stay in this gray area. And there has been more talks about that as of recently, I will say. But kind of like tbd. Well, I mean, I. Listen, the longer things go on like this, it seems harder, you know, to think about. Where do you get that from this.

[Lauren Bostic]

The more normal it feels, right?

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, exactly. And kind of settling into this. But I think both of us, it's just hard to accept or acknowledge because it is such a big part of our identities, you know, being, you know, married so long. But we've kept it so normal with our family. And I could say, you know, for the kids, it's not just for, I mean, them, it's for us too. And my kids are for the most part, adults, so.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, I imagine there's like the other layer, which is you guys are going through a lot of this publicly, which I'm sure is not the easiest thing because again, everybody has a comment and a perspective. Right. And everybody feels they're entitled to tell you guys what to do.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, everybody, Everybody. And they're like, he's gonna screw you and you need to do this. You do that. And I'm like, like, okay, okay, okay. You do you. I know. I appreciate your advice. I know where it's coming from. From your own past experiences.

[Michael Bostic]

They're projecting.

[Kyle Richards]

They're projecting.

[Karina]

One thing that I want to know as a mother of three, is how you have managed to still have this tight knit family into their 20s and 30s. I really admire that. What are some things that you guys do? Like, is it weekly family dinner? Like, what are the things you guys travel together?

[Kyle Richards]

Well, first of all, I always say about parenting, like, you get out of your kids that you put into them and the essence are babies. Like I said, I was the mom that had the, you know, the baby strapped on me at all times. And we did the shared, shared family bed, which probably wasn't the best thing in the world. Don't recommend, but it worked for your kids.

[Karina]

We were still doing it.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, we did that for a long time. Yeah, exactly.

[Lauren Bostic]

She sent me this video the other day of a bed that's like as wide as this table.

[Kyle Richards]

I was like, I just, he, I guess he sold Eddie Murphy's house or something. He's like, he has a customized bed where all the kids would sleep in. I was like, oh great. This is just what we need. This is just what we need. 20 foot long bed so we can never ever be alone.

[Lauren Bostic]

But you guys have girls though.

[Guest or Additional Host]

All girls, right?

[Kyle Richards]

All girls for course. Okay.

[Lauren Bostic]

Like you can't have our grown sons laying in bed with us. Like they need to go off living

[Karina]

with his mom for the rest of his life.

[Lauren Bostic]

At some point they need to go off and be, you know, no men. That can not be.

[Kyle Richards]

It's hard, it's hard to. Sophia's 5 foot 10 and she would like get in bed with us. I'm like, there's like Sophia there. We got another one. Dogs of kids. Bracelets. Bracelets.

[Karina]

You got to get all 40 of them.

[Lauren Bostic]

I don't care what anyone says. I'm just going to say this and maybe some of the moms or dads will get mad like, you don't want to have a 1012 year old boy laying sleeping. Mom and dad.

[Karina]

You haven't met me. You haven't met me. I'll be like, get on mommy's lap. I put him under my shirt like I'm still pregnant.

[Lauren Bostic]

What if you met me and I was, you know, like, hey, I just got done sleeping with my mom like four years ago.

[Karina]

It's not about you.

[Lauren Bostic]

No, you had a hard enough time just like, like having a mother in law come in, like that's let alone like we're not mess up our kids.

[Karina]

What are, what are you, what are the things that you do? Like what are the things like the mission statement of your family?

[Kyle Richards]

I mean, yes, we do everything together. We are traveling together. We do that a lot. And we used to say that, you know, we like to have them like this is like out of touch. But I'm just gonna say it anyway. Like when we would go. Go on a boat we love because they couldn't escape. So they couldn't leave for, like, breakfast, lunch, or dinner. No, literally, like, you can't go anywhere. So we have you locked down for two weeks, and it's breakfast, lunch, and dinner together, reading our books together. And we love that. Oh, yeah. That was the whole time that we saw you guys on the boat. That was too fun.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, you remember that?

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, I do. Yeah. We were on Yacht Stalkers. There's an app called Yacht Stalkers. Really?

[Lauren Bostic]

You were stalking us?

[Kyle Richards]

Mm.

[Karina]

This is a relatable conversation.

[Kyle Richards]

Yes. Yeah, very relatable. But, no, what I do is, like, we do have family dinners. We go out. Dinner. We have dinner. We have game night at home. We have movie night at home. And, you know, my girls are my best friends. They are my favorite people in the world to spend my time with. And it is. I don't. Not ever. Not one time when I have all four together. Does it ever pass me that I think to myself, I cannot believe that all four of these intelligent, beautiful, kind, funny girls. Women are mine. And, yeah, don't tell me. Oh, they're not yours. We just. We're just a incubator. No, no, no, they're mine. They are all mine. I made them, I carried them, and I look, and I'm just like. I cannot believe it. You know, God is good. God really, you know, did me right. And I just cannot believe that there are these incredible people are like, mine I get to hang out with all the time.

[Karina]

You really do have four solid children, from what I can see. I mean, and I know one of

[Lauren Bostic]

them well, and it's not easy in this city.

[Karina]

No, it's not easy. It's not easy in the city. You've managed to raise them in a really humble way. Is there a takeaway for the audience there?

[Kyle Richards]

Well, you know, like I said, when Momo and I were first married, we didn't have it. So Alexia and Farah especially saw us, like, you know, building and, you know, working really hard. And then. And as we started to be more successful and make more money. But then they just saw us both working really hard all the time. And at first I had this sort of guilt because I had the kind of mindset of, like, stay at home, mom all the time. And then I was feeling guilty that I would go to work with Portia. And then this girl I knew said to me, from school, mom at school said, well, why do you feel guilty? Don't you want your daughters to see it working. Is that a good example? And I. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, you're right. So, you know, they've seen how hard that Mo and I have worked for what we have because we didn't have help from anybody. And so I think that helps in having it be a conversation. And, you know, they were not the girls that like, got expensive handbags when they were, you know, 15, 16, and got to spend whatever they want. They had to really, you know, you know, I would give them a present here and there when they got straight A's and things like that. And it's open conversation because of where we live and what we do that we've had to make it like that. So, you know, I feel proud. The fact that they are down to earth in that sense, even though they have nice things and they come from what they come from, how would you

[Lauren Bostic]

manage if there was other friends or kids at the school that were maybe living differently and getting access to all those things? What does the conversation look like to kind of ground your kids?

[Kyle Richards]

Well, this is kind of interesting because I saw a friend at Porsche's just got. Oh, I shouldn't be saying this on here, but she got a G wagon for her 16th birthday. And I was like, whoa, wow. And I was like, I cannot believe she got a g wagon for 16th birthday. And she said, well, why did you guys buy me my car then?

[Karina]

What was her car again?

[Kyle Richards]

Her car is the Porsche Macan. Okay, so it's not nearly as expensive as G wagon.

[Lauren Bostic]

It's nice, though.

[Kyle Richards]

But it's a very nice car. And it was the nicest of the four daughters first cars. But that was Mo. And he was like, she's. Her name is Porsche and she needs to have a Porsche. I was like, okay. But so then she like pushed back. Well, you did that. So why did you think? I'm like, no, I'm not judging. I was saying. And she's like, no, it felt like you were judging. And, you know, I have a very nice car and I'm. And I work really hard at my school and you thought I deserved it. And I was like, okay, okay. So, you know, there's people that have a lot more than my kids, and people have a lot less. And that's something that we talk about all the time, too.

[Karina]

That's a good, like a good way to look at it. There's people that have a lot less and there's people that have a lot more. It gives you context.

[Kyle Richards]

They're very aware of that too. So that's the Thing, you know, and she said, like, oh, I felt a little bit uncomfortable. You know, I could tell she was uncomfortable in certain situations that we did give her that car. So, you know, that's all on Mo. You know what? Let's just blame Mo for all this. I wouldn't die any of this.

[Karina]

I am dying to ask you about your sobriety.

[Kyle Richards]

You've been sober for four years almost in July. July 15th. That's four years.

[Karina]

And were you just sick of being hungover? Like, what was the reason that you decided?

[Kyle Richards]

No, because I wasn't even a big drinker. Of course, when I would go out with my friends or to a party, I would have, you know, margaritas when

[Karina]

you do the splits. And if you haven't seen Kyle do the splits, go Google it.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, unfortunately, I feel like too many people have seen me do the splits. But also, like, you know, dinner, I'd have a glass of wine or a couple glasses of wine, but it was a combination of things. You know, I. I am someone who, like, after I'd have a few drinks, the next day, I would wake up and feel depressed.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

Like, I just felt down. What's they call it? A. Not a hangover melancholy. Like, no, it was like a hangxiety anxiety. There we go. Hangxiety. Thank you, Karina. I would get hang. I'm an oversharer as it is. So then I'd be like, oh, my God, I shared too much. But then I realized now that I do that without drinking anyway, so it doesn't really matter, but it was the timing. I had just lost my best friend to suicide, and I couldn't afford a day to feel. Feeling depressed, and I wanted to feel the best I could and, you know, physically. And I thought, okay, well, I'll just not have alcohol, sugar, carbs for a couple weeks and. And, you know, take a couple pounds off. And all of a sudden, it's sort of like I felt so much better, and I looked so much better. And then two weeks became a month, and then one month became two, and I was like, why do I need to go back to that again? Wait. I can live my life, have fun, and never have anxiety again.

[Michael Bostic]

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[Karina]

I loved it.

[Michael Bostic]

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[Karina]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Karina]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Karina]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Karina]

Like, it's just.

[Michael Bostic]

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[Karina]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Karina]

a glass of champagne during some of the housewives scenes?

[Kyle Richards]

It's the weirdest thing. Like, I just.

[Karina]

You just don't want one?

[Michael Bostic]

No, that's if I feel like you have to.

[Lauren Bostic]

Some of them are having a little too much champagne in those scenes.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

Listen, not drinking is a superpower.

[Karina]

It is a superpower. I bet you feel fantastic.

[Kyle Richards]

I feel so good.

[Lauren Bostic]

Then you have your wits about you too.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, yeah. And the next day when they're saying things, I'm like, that's not what happened. Let me tell you, because I was the only one not drinking last night.

[Karina]

So they don't remember exactly how. How the story went.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, I mean, in times in my life, I see this happen with people. I'm not saying on my show necessarily, because honestly, our show, there are not a lot of big drinkers.

[Karina]

You're right.

[Kyle Richards]

They're really not.

[Karina]

The biggest drinkers, I'm gonna say is New York.

[Kyle Richards]

I'm gonna agree with that. I've seen some really big drinkers on New York, and I'M just like, oh, my God. That is. That's a lot. I. You know, I just did the ultimate girls trip.

[Karina]

Yes. Tell us about that. Give us a little juice on that.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, I was like, why would I do this? This when I'm, like, off not shooting the Housewives? Like, what? But it was the OG One, so I felt like I have to do this. I've been, you know, they're this long on the show. So it was Vicki from OC Let me go through this. I don't want to forget anybody. God forbid. It was Luann from New York. Love Porsche from Atlanta, Teresa from New Jersey, Giselle from Potomac, and then Lisa Barlow from Salt. Like, and it was just a lot of personalities, and I haven't seen all the shows, you know, up to date, but so many personalities and, like, so much going on. Really overwhelming. But what I realized is, like, some of them, I. Like, we would stop at these different cities, and we'd meet other. All the other houses that come in from the franchises. And I saw, like, some big blowout fights happen.

[Karina]

Hopefully the cameras captured it.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, they did. But I was like, like, these people are hardcore. Like, we are monks in Beverly Hills, guys. The real houses of Beverly Hills are monks at this point. And I was like, how? I would. I would kill somebody. I've heard someone say something about someone's kid, and then they were calling someone a. I don't even. I can't even say other things because I don't know what will be shown and what won't be shown. I don't want to get in trouble for.

[Lauren Bostic]

But do you feel like the new franchises, they kind of got to enter in with a step up in order to compete with the older ones? Yeah. Like, I feel like.

[Kyle Richards]

I don't know, but this was. They didn't even need to do this. We're like, we're just celebrating 20 years of Housewives. Why are you coming in here? So it was just interesting to see.

[Karina]

It's nice, though, because you get to be sort of the voice of reason and set it back a little bit. Probably when they're like, da, dun, dun, dun.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, yeah. I was, like, literally in the middle, and they're fighting, and then they're like, kyle, this is not what happened. This is what happened. She did this. I'm like, listen, I'm not your therapist, guys. And then we met the Rhode island girls. The new Rhode island girls.

[Karina]

How's that? Oh,

[Kyle Richards]

that was another situation. I was like, I literally feel like Mother Teresa sitting in this room right now we came in and they start coming in and they. The personality's flying with things coming out of their mouths. And I was just like, oh, my God. One point I had to yell, everybody stop talking. And I was like, I have to leave the room for a minute. I was so overstimulated by 1 million households around me.

[Karina]

That's intense. And those OGs, each of them bring something very different to the table.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, yeah.

[Karina]

I mean. I mean, Teresa mixing with Lisa Barlow just.

[Lauren Bostic]

Luann's been on the show. She's funny.

[Kyle Richards]

She sang.

[Karina]

She gave a little.

[Kyle Richards]

Of course she sang. Which. That didn't go over very well with a couple of housewives on the show.

[Lauren Bostic]

They didn't want her to sing or they didn't like what she was singing.

[Kyle Richards]

Why? Like, you're like, no, ma'. Am. Enough with that singing.

[Karina]

Really? I would have, like, recorded a beat with her.

[Kyle Richards]

It was so funny. You'll have to wait and see. But that. I was very entertained by that.

[Michael Bostic]

I cannot.

[Karina]

I cannot wait. So the sobriety. Are you committed to being sober for the rest of your life? Are you committed to just today? What. What's your vibe on it?

[Kyle Richards]

I never put a timeline on it because I just didn't want to do that to myself. I mean, but now I would be so disappointed if I did drink, even though I didn't have a problem before.

[Karina]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

You know, so I'm like, when I do go out in public and I say, you know, you have a non alcoholic, you know, sparkling wine or, you know, non alcoholic beer. I'm paranoid because people watching and I'm like, first of all, I need to look at the bottle because I have to see it myself. That has no alcohol. And then I ask them to leave it on the table because I don't want someone saying, I saw Kyle Richards and I saw a beer bottle and she was a liar, because that happens all the time. Just being accused of lying. So. But if I had accidentally taken a sip of something with alcohol, I would be really, like, tortured because I'm very like, you know, like Capricorn in me. I'm like, no, no, no, no. I have to stick with this and be so. I don't know. I don't. I don't see myself drinking, but who knows? I mean, what I one day say, it's.

[Karina]

It is inspiring to watch. Also your fitness journey. It feels like you got into weightlifting, right?

[Kyle Richards]

I do. I. Yes. I mean, I. I mean, I. What I call it weightlifting. I use weights every day, but, I mean, I don't think I'm cool enough to say weightlifting because they're not like, huge. I didn't want my. My arm started to get a little too big for a little bit. I thought I was being a good thing. And I was like, oh, no, I don't like that. Now I gotta go back.

[Karina]

I have not right now. Have you ever heard of hey, Mod ar Arms? Like, you say hey, Mod across the street, you go, hey, Mod. And why mod? And because this. Mods are like, it's a little wiggle. It's called hey, Mod Arms.

[Kyle Richards]

I don't like. Now I'm feeling through my sweater. I don't know if I like this.

[Lauren Bostic]

I find it so funny when women say that. They're like, they're. They start weightlifting. Like, I'm getting. Just getting way too strong. Way too big. Way too. It's like, you know how hard it is to, like, guys. Like, that's all we do is, like,

[Guest or Additional Host]

try all the time.

[Kyle Richards]

You want to be big.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah. But it takes for, like. It takes like, years to just put on. Like, Chris is over. He knows you guys are like, I'm just too jacked right away. It's been two weeks of lifting weights.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, I thought I was, you know, I wanted to look really good for Alexia's wedding. And I was like, my dress was strapless. I'm like, I need my arms to be looking really good. And honestly, after having four kids and your weight goes up and down, up and down, up and down, it's not easy. That's like, one of the hardest areas to hit is the arms. Yep. So I started increasing the weight, thinking I'm going to burn and make them really well. My arm looked big picture to me. And I was like, that's not what I wanted. And I got to go back and lower that down. And I'm sorry that I get so boxed. This is not my problem.

[Karina]

I don't see anything big.

[Kyle Richards]

I made a sweater. No, now, now it came down.

[Lauren Bostic]

Now, I need to know about your supplements, docs. I want to know what you're doing to put on this masterpiece.

[Kyle Richards]

I am taking Peptides.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, you are? Which ones?

[Karina]

Oh, you got to tell us what Peptides you're taking.

[Kyle Richards]

Apparently, the one that the memory doesn't work because I can't remember the name of the Peptides. But I think. Help, Chris, help me out. G, H, K, C, U. Yeah.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, you're doing the glow stuff. That's like skin hair, right?

[Karina]

Is that the one that you're doing too?

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah. Can you not? And Then I take the one that hurts when I put. That's the only one that hurts when I inject it. The blue one, I think that was for the muscle repair and stuff.

[Lauren Bostic]

The BPC157, huh?

[Kyle Richards]

I take that.

[Lauren Bostic]

That's good. It's good for recovery.

[Kyle Richards]

What else do I take, Chris? Ghk cq. What is that?

[Karina]

Oh, my God.

[Kyle Richards]

Who the hell could remember? Please explain to me how everyone is supposed to remember all of these things.

[Karina]

What does each one do? One's for glow bpc.

[Kyle Richards]

I just stab myself and hope for the best. Okay. I mean, I literally pinch and stab it in there. And I'm like, this is somebody who had to go to hypnotherapy because of my fear of needles. I do not care. I'm not one of these people who's gonna say, you know, I earn these wrinkles. You know, I want to age gracefully. I'm not either, by the way. I'm impressed by those people and I admire them. That's not for me.

[Karina]

No, that's not.

[Kyle Richards]

If I can take a peptide and it's gonna, you know, take away lines and use my red light therapy mask. Oh, I'm doing every single thing.

[Karina]

I will do every single thing until I'm rigor mortis in the ground. I want Karina to do my makeup. When I am laid to rest, I want you to fan my hair out. Chris, I better be looking so fucking hot.

[Kyle Richards]

And by the way, I don't even mean like, you know, like I wanna look good. Like, not like. Cause I actually don't love to wear makeup, as Karina will tell you. I don't love to wear makeup, but I want to look good so that I don't have to wear makeup. I want to look. Just have my skin feel good and be healthy from the inside out.

[Karina]

What are other beauty secrets, tips, tricks that you do?

[Kyle Richards]

Okay, well, the peptides is a huge thing.

[Karina]

Okay.

[Kyle Richards]

And I never talk about this just because I don't know why. No one's really asked me. But, like, I do hormone replacement therapy.

[Karina]

And does it work?

[Kyle Richards]

Absolutely.

[Karina]

Is it the pellet or the shot?

[Kyle Richards]

I do the pellet.

[Karina]

Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

And is it putting in your ass?

[Kyle Richards]

Does it hurt? Yeah. When I say that somebody thought actually putting up in my ass.

[Lauren Bostic]

And you hear this.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, my gosh, is it clear that it's in the butt cheek?

[Karina]

Puts a pellet up her ass?

[Lauren Bostic]

No, but more.

[Kyle Richards]

This is a. In my butt cheek, to be clear.

[Lauren Bostic]

But this is. Now this is becoming a lot more women are starting to Talk about this. And didn't they just pass new laws or regulations to push this through a little bit more? Didn't something happen?

[Kyle Richards]

I have been reading about that, yes. See, I. And I hope that, you know, I like that it's more of an open conversation now, but, like, I watched my mom just be terrified, honestly. And she had her last period at, like, 40 years old, and I just remember her being, like, moody and edgy and, like, I can remember her with a fan all the time. And I was like, I do not want to be like that. I'm never gonna ever be like that. So I had had a promise with my best friend Lorene. Like, if we ever see that happening, we need to, like, talk to each other, because I don't think my mom and all these people I've seen go through this, realize that, how scary they are, and we have to be watching each other. So. So I was like, when do I start that? How soon? And I literally got ahead of it. And, you know, I battled my weight pretty much. You know, when I was younger, that was always, like, my thing. My sisters were blonde and skinny, and I was, like, curvy, and, you know, so I was like, I don't want that to happen to me. I want to be, like, fit. And I really feel like it does really help make a difference.

[Karina]

Okay.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah. We've had a bunch of people come on the show as they. Mark Sisson's one of them as they get older. And it's what I always tell people is it's like, it's not a matter of if, it's just when. Like, for sure. I will will look at that stuff as they start to get older, because

[Guest or Additional Host]

we've seen the quality of life of

[Lauren Bostic]

so many people, like, change for the better. And we talk to older people on the show, and they say that their sex life changed, their energy changed, they're happier, they're healthier, they're managing weight. And so why would you not access those tools if you can?

[Kyle Richards]

100%. And I can kind of tell when someone's not taking it and should be.

[Karina]

Oh, oh, I'll have to look for

[Kyle Richards]

that look on your face. Am I going to get. Am I going to be raked over the coals for saying that? No, I think Chris is saying, yes. Yes, Chris, there's no more coals for

[Lauren Bostic]

you to be raked over at this point.

[Guest or Additional Host]

Thank you.

[Kyle Richards]

I've been raked over every cold. Bring it on. No, I can look and think, okay, I can tell this person is not taking that, and they should Be. And I've sent many people. You know, I just think that whatever

[Lauren Bostic]

specific about the person that might be the cool people.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, no, but no, I've sent many, many friends and maybe a couple housewives.

[Karina]

There's a whole nother show on your inner monologue.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is true.

[Lauren Bostic]

True.

[Kyle Richards]

This is true.

[Karina]

The real inner monologue, your mom carrying a fan is so 360 because Kathy's fan. Oh, yeah, I have the pillow. I got the pillow.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, my gosh.

[Karina]

I got the pillow. I got the fan. I don't need the fan. I just think it's funny, Kathy.

[Kyle Richards]

But my mom had a hand fan. Oh. Travels with a big, big, like, big, huge. Like.

[Karina]

What about. I got the handheld fan that she had. The little round.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, she does that too.

[Karina]

I gotta get a rope.

[Lauren Bostic]

Oh, my God. We ran into her at the airport. Airport the other day with Rick. And there was like three dogs. Like, they were late to the flight. He's like, Hilton, Hilton. It was like, screw. Like, oh, my God.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren Bostic]

The dogs were going nuts. My God.

[Kyle Richards]

She's a lot. She's a lot. She's hysterically funny, though.

[Lauren Bostic]

But she is definitely hysterically funny.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, she is.

[Karina]

She's very, very funny. Okay, so tell us about your production company and tell us about the new season of the Lincoln Lord.

[Kyle Richards]

So my production company is called house of 18. And you know, all four of my girls have 18 in their birthdays. One and eight next to each other on the 18th or the 18 lined up. So it's just been my good luck number always. That's why my Instagram is Kyle Richards 18 and all that. But so we called the production company that. And I have two shows, like I said, that are in development and two shows. I'm trying to think of the wording. What is this called? I think that is one is like it in early stages of development and the other two are like farther along in the process. You know, like scripts being written? Actually currently, right now. Yeah. Like pre production.

[Karina]

Is it like based off a book or is it something that you're creating out of nowhere?

[Kyle Richards]

Something. Well, I love to read. So, like, one of the ideas is something I just came up with that I was inspired by an article I had read years ago. And another one is inspired by just real life things that are going on. And another one is just a story that happened to me years ago. So I, you know, some of them are inspired by and some of the stories I came up with. And I really love doing that, like, to me, I'm. Everything turns into, like, a story in my head. Like, I'm in my car, I don't listen to music usually. I'm just literally just thinking of stories.

[Karina]

Well, there's a lot to think about with everything you've got going on in your life. I mean, I'm sure there's all kinds of different stories.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, now I have, like. It's just so strange because my life has taken such an interesting, like, turn. So my life is not what it used to be at all. As you may have heard, we've read a couple of times, the dynamic at my house is a very different situation now. But, yeah, and then, you know, and so I'm really enjoying the producing. And then the acting is just my first love. That's what, you know, I've done since I'm little and being able to do, you know, all of that has been great. You know, the Housewives, which is stressful, you know. But then when I'm creating and producing and I'm acting, it's just. I just feel only excitement all the time, you know, I don't. I don't. Even if it's. I always compare. Like, you know, I remember when I was shooting the last Halloween movie, or maybe it was the Halloween before that one. Halloween Kills. And I was 4 o' clock in the morning in a swamp. And they had men in the swamp with me with headlamps on with rubber suits up to here, looking for snakes and alligators. And I was getting in there with them and I thought, I would rather be doing this. How scary is that? I don't have to be doing this in a housewife. You would get in the swamps with

[Karina]

the alligators and snakes for a living on a daily basis at Beverly Hills. Getting in a real one's like, easy.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, I remember I went up because they'd only told me that the alligators. And I was like, I'm not. Not doing this. Because they had a stunt person. I was like, there's no way I'm letting a stunt person do this. So I went up to the man who had, like, the stick with the thing for that, the alligator wrangler. And I was like. Didn't want the director to hear me. And I was like, so can you just tell me, like, what are the chances of there really being, like, an alligator near me? And he was like, if I were you, if it was a snakes, I'd be more worried about than the alligators. And I was like, no, don't. The snakes Nobody told me about, but I was like, I just love that. You know, I love that. And I have this sense of, like, pride after. And accomplishment. So I. I love doing that. And then this season doing Lincoln Lawyer, I've had more compliments and nice messages from people. People like, you know, all over that. Just like, only nice things, which, you know. You know, when you do the Housewives, you get such a mix and you're like, God, this is really nice. And people say, God, you know, you're.

[Lauren Bostic]

I mean, it feels like now like people are on your side and really rooting for you. Do you feel like that that's shifted over the years? Like we're like. It feels like more positive than negative.

[Kyle Richards]

It's. I mean, I have to say I'm fortunate in the sense that it's. You know, you see comments in the, you know, like we say on Instagram or like, you know, on Page Six and things like that. And there'll be mixed things, but, like, people DMing me and coming up to me are always overwhelmingly positive and supportive. And, you know, they really do feel like they know you. You know, they'll say, can I hug you? And they'll wrap their arms around me and give me a hug, and people love you. And they'll say, like, thank you. And they'll say, like, you know, I've been watching you going through, you know, Mauricio and, you know, your journey and this and that. And that's like the sweet part, you know.

[Lauren Bostic]

Has it ever worked out for any of the husbands now that we never got that figured out?

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah, I think. I think Mo's come out pretty much unscathed. They give him a little bit of hard time now because, you know, but

[Guest or Additional Host]

he was never really in there squabbling

[Lauren Bostic]

with the girls, right? Like, he didn't.

[Kyle Richards]

No.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah. Like, the guy. Whenever I see that, I'm like, oh, that's not going to end well for you.

[Kyle Richards]

I know. No, he's not there squabbling with the girls.

[Karina]

I gotta ask you, Brad or Angelina?

[Kyle Richards]

You know, I said that.

[Karina]

I'm taking both.

[Kyle Richards]

Okay, you're taking both.

[Karina]

Okay. I'm greedy.

[Kyle Richards]

Here's the thing I said. There's a couple reasons why I said that. First of all, everybody was like, you know, there was so much gossip about me, and everybody was, like, trying to dance around the question, but they just kept, you know, coming to me, coming, coming to me. So I thought, I'm going to a. You know, say something to, like, make them laugh and maybe shut them up a little. Bit.

[Karina]

Bit.

[Kyle Richards]

And the other side of that is like, I don't know. You know what? I've changed over these past few years. I've evolved, I've grown. And what can I say? I'm open minded. You know, that's a great. I'm still by myself, I will tell you.

[Karina]

You must know that you are very good on a mic. I've not heard you on a lot of podcasts. Is this the first podcast you've ever done?

[Kyle Richards]

No, I just don't do Juicy often. You did Juicy Scoop.

[Karina]

I heard you on a long.

[Kyle Richards]

Yeah. And I did Jackie Schimmels.

[Michael Bostic]

Yes, yes.

[Kyle Richards]

Because I know Jackie and found her. I just. And I'll. You know, I've done Teddy's because she's one of my best friends and other than that, I don't usually do them. But then you guys are so close to Farah. And then Mo was on here and Kathy in Paris. I'm like, you know, let's get the whole family.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah, why don't we bring everybody on at once here?

[Karina]

Well, let's do an open round table with the whole family.

[Kyle Richards]

Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine that?

[Karina]

I'll host it. Like a reunion.

[Lauren Bostic]

I bet that would actually be fun. Well, we'll set it up. Yeah, exactly. We'll have to moderate. There's. There's a lot of moving pieces, but

[Karina]

you are very good on a mic. Like, I gotta say, she's really good on a mic. So maybe there's a podcast in your future.

[Kyle Richards]

I actually, really, actually do want to do that. And I know everyone seems like everyone, but I. I think there's so many, like, things I want to talk about. I actually thought about maybe doing one with my four daughters. I was. You know, you guys could swap it out, too. We have so many. When I'm literally dealing with things with Portia going to college and all that entails, and her leaving home and empty nests and this and that and. And then Sophia's in her own thing, in her twenties, and trying to figure out where, you know, where she's going in her career. And then there's Alexia just getting married. Is she gonna have a baby? Work fair. I'm like, we have so many topics. Like, I'm like, we could be doing this together, and then I could kidnap them again and not even need the boat.

[Lauren Bostic]

Well, I know.

[Karina]

Welcome in. And I. I do know a guy that might be able to help you start the podcast.

[Guest or Additional Host]

Yeah, we might know some people that

[Lauren Bostic]

can talk to you about it.

[Karina]

I feel like that pitch was pretty fucking strong.

[Lauren Bostic]

Yeah.

[Kyle Richards]

Was that a good pitch? That was a great pitch.

[Lauren Bostic]

Anytime.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah.

[Karina]

Kyle Richards at Kyle Richards 18. Where can everyone watch support? See you all the things.

[Kyle Richards]

Are you asking me?

[Karina]

Yeah. Oh, help yourself out.

[Kyle Richards]

Well, yeah, that's my Instagram. Kyle Richters 18. I. I do tick tocks now and then because of Konina and Chris over there, you know, and that's where everyone's going to these days.

[Lauren Bostic]

I can't do tick tock.

[Kyle Richards]

Sophia suckers me into her tick tocks too. And she's. People really like Sophia on tick tock.

[Karina]

We need a podcast.

[Kyle Richards]

I know. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it now because then I could like stay home and I can never leave and just forget because what I do with podcasts, I forget people are gonna listen to it later. And I just sit here and I feel, I feel like it's just us. It's kind of like housewives gets me into trouble.

[Karina]

That's why it's successful though. Those are the ones that are successful. You could set it up in your living room and like do a whole show. And I will say not. I've had a lot of housewives on the show. Not everyone is good on a mic.

[Lauren Bostic]

Now we're going to get nailed.

[Karina]

Very good on a mic. Well, you heard us.

[Kyle Richards]

Where do I start? Where do I buy this equipment?

[Lauren Bostic]

We're going to have a conversation.

[Kyle Richards]

We need some guidance here.

[Lauren Bostic]

See, I'm going to now pitch you after this is over.

[Karina]

So thank you for doing this. Thank you, thank you.