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Mark Consuelos: Built To Win - Success, Love, & Discipline You Can Apply To Your Own Life
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#885: Join us as we sit down with Mark Consuelos – actor & TV host, best known for his role on All My Children & as co-host of Live with Kelly & Mark alongside his wife, Kelly Ripa. In this episode, Mark gets real about what success...
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Lauren Everts
The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Michael Bostic
Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Get ready for some major realness.
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Lauren Everts
Welcome to the Skinny Confidential. Him and her. So we have cards and cards and cards and, you know, notes and notes and notes. Because you've done a lot. And I think the theme of what we want to drill into with you is it seems like you're a high performer in every area. And I'd like to know, just to start, what success means to you. Not just success in a business setting, but success in life.
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Michael Bostic
Oh, gosh. For me, success in life. I'll give you a few scenarios. For me, it's sitting at a table with my three kids and my wife where we have a great conversation and we have a lot of laughs and there are no arguments. If there are arguments, they're just kind of easily navigated and then, you know, maybe watch something on TV and go to bed. That, to me, is success at this stage of my life.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
So it's simple.
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Michael Bostic
Super simple.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
It's not super complex. I think that's what's cool about you, is you would think you'd have this huge answer. And it's very simple.
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Michael Bostic
I think that if I were to choose one thing I could be successful at, that would be what I describe my family, my familial relationships would probably be the most important thing for me.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Have you always known that you wanted to be a family man?
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Michael Bostic
No.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Did your wife.
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Lauren Everts
Quick. No.
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Michael Bostic
No.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Puppeteer it?
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Michael Bostic
No. We, we, we. We often. We got. We eloped. It's pretty famously eloped. And we. We told no one for a month. But if you would have asked me a week before I got married and said, when do you think you're gonna get married? And I'm like, I don't know. Maybe never or 10 years or 15 years from now. And I was 25 years old, so the idea hit me that it was time to do this with this person. You know, it's kind of a funny story. We broke up the week before I broke up with her because I was dumb.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And.
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Michael Bostic
And it was the most agonizing week of my life. And I just knew that I never wanted to feel like that. I've never felt like that in my life.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What did she do to you during that week?
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Michael Bostic
Can't wait to hear. Well, we. She didn't return any of my calls.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah.
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Michael Bostic
And then we were Meant to do a bit of PR together. We were both on a. On a soap. And ironically, we were both going to be presenting a winner. It was Queen for the Day. It was this segment they did on Live with Regis and Kathie Lee. And her dream was to have her favorite soap stars roll out this sofa. She wanted a La Z Boy sofa. And so we rolled that. We were meant to roll that out and surprise her. And we both tried to get out of it. I called the PR person. I'm like, I can't. I'm not. And she tried to get out of it as well.
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Lauren Everts
Because of seeing each other.
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Michael Bostic
Of seeing each other. And so we get there that day, and you asked me, what did she do? She looked amazing. I can still see this little, like, Chanel, beautiful jacket, mid. Whatever that's called, with a kerchief. I'm like, she's French all of a sudden. And she looked as. I mean, she's always looks amazing. Looks amazing. But I was like, oh. Oh, man, she looks so good. Boy, did I screw up. And so we do the segment. We barely speak to each other. I'm trying to speak to her. We both smoked cigarettes back then, and so she went out for a smoke break. I said, do you mind if I come out with you? She's like, if you want. And so that happened. And then after the segment was done, she lived on the west side. I followed her and begged her just to take a walk with me through Central Park. And she really didn't want to, but I was convincing. And so she did. And then we ended up back at my place. I lived downtown, and I asked her.
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Lauren Everts
To marry me, like, after the walk. That same day.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Wow.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah. And she said, ask me when you're serious. And I said, I am dead serious. I said, we have a day off work tomorrow. Let's fly to Vegas and get married.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
The hot tip for girls, what I'm hearing is that if they break up with you, you need to go cold turkey, completely ignore them. Don't pick up their calls, don't text back, don't do literally nothing. And then when you see them, make sure you look so, so smoking hot and ignore them. That's crazy. It's like being aloof. Like, just. It's that easy. We have a kind of a similar story as that. I used to do things like that to him. So I totally get her strategy and it works.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah, but our gap was, like, maybe, like, 15 years. That was the gap.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
I made him wait 15 years. I had to wait around for 15 years.
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Michael Bostic
Oh, you had you.
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Lauren Everts
I got a lot of denials for the walks in the park.
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Michael Bostic
But you played the long game.
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Lauren Everts
I did play the long ago.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I don't think people realize how much work goes into the soap area. Like, I feel like it's not talked about. From what I've heard off air. It is a lot of work.
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Michael Bostic
It is.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What was that like when you first started and how much work did that entail? Like pull the veil off for the audience?
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Michael Bostic
That was my first job. It came up to New York on that audition and I got it. And so I had a bag that had clothes for three days and I just stayed and had all my stuff shipped up. So I really had no context for what other work was like compared to other shows or, you know, doing a play or. That's a lot of work as well. Or other one hours or sitcoms. So this is my first entree into the business. You do a one hour show a day where typically, if you watch a one hour show on primetime that takes eight, eight days, ten days to shoot. We shoot that in one day. So that's at least 60 pages of dialogue you're in. If you're depending on how heavy your story is, you're probably in a third of that dialogue. So 20 pages. And sometimes they would pack other parts of other shows in that. So I think on the biggest day I had maybe 30 plus pages of dialogue in one day, maybe more. And that's. And then you do it again the next day.
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Lauren Everts
I imagine in a strange way that's probably great prep work though for other things as you go because you're just kind of thrown in the fire right away.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, you may not be the best actor, but you definitely learn how to memorize lines. And that was big for me. And learning blocking and. Cause if you screw up, you have to start from the beginning. It's not like other shows where they just clip it and move on. You have to start from the beginning and do the whole scene again.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
When you're starting out in that. Did you know that you were setting the foundation for your career and how you sort of did anything is how you did everything.
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Michael Bostic
You know, as a 23 year old kid from Tampa, I didn't know much. I just knew that, you know, my plan was to move up to New York after college and study theater or acting or get in, you know, join a studio and study and like wait tables at night. And I kind of bypassed that whole part of my story. And so I do know this that on soaps, you know, when they hand you, you go pick up your wardrobe from the wardrobe room, and you, you know, and then at the end of the day, you hang it up and you bring it back to the wardrobe room. So a lot of the things that I still. I don't go to the wardrobe trailer on shows that I'm on now, but I do still hang up and fold and put my shoes and my socks. So, yeah, I think some of the training that I got as a young man on that show is still. That work ethic is still. Is definitely still in me.
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Lauren Everts
I was gonna ask.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That's great. Husband training.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Where do you think your work ethic comes from? Have you always had it or has it developed over time?
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Michael Bostic
My folks, definitely. My folks, two immigrants, definitely very strong immigrant mentality. School, you know, B's, maybe were okay. If you got a C, it was not okay.
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Lauren Everts
Your family would have disowned me.
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Michael Bostic
Like, it was you so doing well in school. If I did a sport, I had to do really, really well. You know, just kind of always pushing to be better than where we were at at the current moment. So that I think it definitely came from my mother and my father.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
How did you pivot out of soaps?
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Michael Bostic
I did some theater while I was doing a soap, which was great. I somehow negotiated when I was on the soap that I could take pilot season and go to Los Angeles, and if I got a pilot, I could leave the show. And I don't know how I negotiated that, but they said, sure. And so it just took a lot of, you know. You know, as any actor, you're just auditioning. And I got a movie. And then finally when I left the show, I, you know, transitioned to nighttime stuff and some movies, but mainly nighttime stuff.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And while this is going on, are you simultaneously building your family or just.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, we had a kid. We had our child at 26. Michael was when we got pregnant quick, and we had, you know, we were kids raising a kid. And Michael is funny. He says he's like the third in our relationship. And we're like, what are you talking about? He goes, I pretty much. We all grew up together. We all grew up together. And he knows that, which is kind of interesting for a kid to understand that we were also just growing up.
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Lauren Everts
And when you. When you had your first kid, how were you guys able to maintain the pace of your careers? We think about that all the time. We're on our third kid now, and things change.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
And I was thinking just about the early Days of the show because we started it close to a decade ago. No kids, young, tons of energy.
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Michael Bostic
Yep.
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Lauren Everts
And it's just a different dance now.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if we. It wasn't well thought out. We just did it, you know, being on a soap, you know, we could bring Caretaker with us there while we were working, so our kids were always around us. Shortly after that, Kelly got the daytime show, which is the perfect schedule for a working mom. You're done by noon or shortly after that. So she was. She was always been extremely involved, even as busy as she is. I can say that even before I got this gig with Kelly, I think for seven years, I wasn't really living at home. I was either in Los Angeles or in New Mexico or in Canada for months at a time. So she really held down the fort. And I think as actors, we've always had New York City as a base, which is really, really rare, you know, and given that the soaps were shot here initially and then live is, you know, was the anchor that kept us here. So our kids never really changed schools. They always went to the same school. They. They always live. We changed homes as they grew up, but they really had. They grew up in New York City.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And what was the transition like from traveling so much to then being able to be home?
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Michael Bostic
I think it was great.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah. Because the last few years of travel were right smack dab in the pandemic, so. And I was working in Canada at the time, and whenever I came and went to Canada, I would have to quarantine for two weeks at a time, so I couldn't leave. So if I had five days off, typically before COVID I would fly home and I would be. I'd take a red eye home and I'd be home for four days and I'd take a flight back to Vancouver and, you know, I'd go back to work or if in a specific episode, if I only had two days of work out of 10 days, shoot, I'd do my two days and I'd fly home. But during the pandemic, that changed everything. And I think we. The last year I worked on a show in Vancouver, I was gone. It was a 10 month shoot and I think I was home 20 days.
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Lauren Everts
Wow, that's tough.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah. I mean, I remember I came home and she was sleeping on my side of the bed and I said, well, she says just closer to the door and this is where you sleep, but it's closer. And I kind of looked at Her, I go, yeah, but this is my side of the bed. She's like, you don't live here, you live in Canada. This is where I sleep. I said, you're right, you're right. This. I guess I'll take the other side.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
So what do you do about that? Like, how did you decide that this isn't working?
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Michael Bostic
It came down, my contract was over and I think there might have. You know, I knew that I wanted to come back to New York and when this opportunity came up to join her on the show, I thought, man, this, you know, we started out working together under really hard circumstances. New parents, new young kids, 12 hour days, you know, and we worked. Our storylines were always together. So there was a. We worked, we were working together a lot and that. And then I think we also lived in New Jersey for like a year and a half, two years of that. So we commuted a lot of that. That was interesting.
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Lauren Everts
You commute together or.
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Michael Bostic
Yes, we commuted together. So there was an hour commute, 12 hour day, another hour commute back. So that was really under hard circumstances.
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Lauren Everts
I'm very excited to learn from you because obviously we have a similar dynamic where we work together.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
And I, My advice is I tell couples not to do it. When they ask. I said, don't do it because it's really. I actually think in a weird way, and she may disagree. Figuring out this dynamic has been easier than figuring out how to be a couple, how to be parents together.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
It depends on the day.
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Lauren Everts
The professional relationship together is a harder.
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Michael Bostic
It definitely is. It absolutely is. But in this iteration of us working together, my calculus was I had filled in so many times, I think over a hundred times. And sometimes it was if I was home from Vancouver and you know, Ryan got sick or something or, you know, I would get. She'd wake me up, it's like 7:30 in the morning. Said, can you do the show today? So when does it start? She said, we have to leave in like 10 minutes. Can you be ready? I said, sure, yeah, I just have to shave and shower. I'm. Put on a suit or whatever and I just go with her. And I'm like. But I knew that out of those hundred times that I did it, it was so much fun. I'm working with arguably the best in the business.
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Lauren Everts
It's quite agreed.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Incredible career.
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Michael Bostic
She's amazing. I've done it so many times with her. Times where I kind of was screwing up and she'd always, she always saved me, always kept the ball in the air.
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Lauren Everts
What's a screw up. Like what?
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Michael Bostic
Like, you know, you have a huge guest on the show, and I freeze. I'm like starstruck. And she's committed. She's conducting the interview by herself.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Who are you starstruck by?
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Michael Bostic
Oh, gosh, let me think about that. But along the way, for sure, you know, starstruck. And I didn't know how to, like, you know, what to say. And she would just handle the interview. And then we, you know, the host chats are always fun and great because it's us. And I have such a good rapport. We have such a good rapport. And she's so funny and she's so quick. And I trust her because that relationship, as you know, you have to trust each other so much because things can go left to right, you know. And I knew that through that my whole experience had been great. And the fan response was always great. And so I said, look, I haven't been home. I'd love to be home for a while. I get to work with someone who's really good at what they do. The schedule is amazing. You know, we're out of there early, you know, noonish. I have the flexibility to maybe do a play. Cause I haven't been in New York for such a long time, and I'd like to do this now. And so that was kind of the calculus I. The calculations that we made.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And did all of that fall into line as you wanted it to?
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Michael Bostic
Oh, yeah, I will say that. You know, the hundred times plus that I filled in, there were no consequences. I was a hero. I showed up. I saved the day. You know, I was like. And I had no. It wasn't my job. I was just filling in. As soon as it became real and it was for real, there was definitely a period of time where I was probably overthinking things. And it was like, wait, I'm. You know. And she's like, relax, you're doing fine. Or if I would screw something up. Reading off a teleprompter, I thought it was like the biggest deal ever. Whereas before, I don't even remember reading off a teleprompter, I don't remember what I was saying. So I think that the weight of the decision became super real for me. And I think it goes back to, what does success mean for me? I want to be. I want to be good at what I do.
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Lauren Everts
And do you have an inner monologue that, like, I was. We were. Me and Mark, who we're friends with. I was talking about you, and I was Like, I wonder who you compete with at this point. Like, is it yourself and your inner monologue? Are there ideas of yourself or other people? Like what? Like, when you think about what's driving.
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Michael Bostic
You and pushing you, I think myself. Yeah, for sure.
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Lauren Everts
What does that look like inside your head?
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Michael Bostic
It could be at the gym. You know, that's a daily competition with myself. I'm not competing against any. There's nobody else. I know what I need to do. I know what I'm there to do. I know if I didn't do it, being prepared for my morning show, I want to be prepared. We get notes the night before. I wouldn't say I pore over them because at this point, after two years, you kind of know how it goes. Being. I would say being present on that show is super important. That's, you know, not thinking about, you know, the 20 other things that are going through my mind. That that's. That's a competition that I kind of keep with myself. Be really present, knowing that the assignment for that show in the morning, it's unlike any other show where there. We're not new. We're not a new show. People are not there to hear anything super serious. They're there for a reprieve, I think. And that's our assignment. So I think that, you know, making sure I do that and I, you know, get the energy up to do that every day is. I. I'm competitive with myself about that.
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Lauren Everts
And what are the things you're doing to prepare and to get yourself in that headspace, not only just in the. In the work, but in the gym? Like, I think it's interesting for people to know because, like I said, you know, you're a high performer in a lot of areas, and I think that inner dialogue is important.
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Michael Bostic
I'll look at pictures of me, like, two or three years ago look like better or worse. And I want to be. Because I was. I think I'm in. I'm, you know, at 50. I was definitely in better shape than I was at 30.
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Lauren Everts
Interesting.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah. And I just got serious. And, you know, I take health very seriously, have very few vices. I love a cigar.
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Lauren Everts
Nice.
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Michael Bostic
But that's about it. And so I try to. I know that, you know, that. That. That. That kind of health is. Is. Is. It's fleeting. And knowing what the next stage as, you know, I'm 54, going in. What is 60 going to look like? What I. What do I want to be? Where I. Where do I want to be doing at 60? And what I What do, how do I want to look at 60 and it seems super vain, but I also want to be able to play with my grandkids and, and I want to be able to run around and, you know, do that. I took up golf. That's a whole other level of competition. A lot of time, you know, I like to play by myself.
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Lauren Everts
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
If I can. Therapeutic, it's totally therapeutic. So I run around that golf course. I can get done in less than two hours.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah, imagine if you're doing it by yourself and not lugging around the group. You can.
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Michael Bostic
No, not a lot of conversation, just a few conversations with myself, like, oh, why did you do that? So that's a, I love that, that competitive side because you're really playing against yourself.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I'm curious how you think about time and, and maybe specifically in a day because how do you get it all done? How do you make sure you're hitting all the buckets? Do you have a set schedule every single day or do you live and die by the calendar down by to.
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Michael Bostic
The, to the hour? Typically if there's a window of four or five hours, I love that because then it's just decompress and just kind of heal a little bit and just kind of don't do nothing. Sometimes I do nothing, which is great, but usually it's pretty, it's pretty regimented by the hour.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What's the morning routine before you go in?
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Michael Bostic
Okay, so, and what time do you.
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Lauren Everts
Guys have to go in? Early, I imagine.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, early, but not as early everybody thinks, you know, they think, wow, you must get up at 3 or 4 o' clock in the morning.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That's what I thought.
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Michael Bostic
No, the Show's live at 9:00 in the morning.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Oh, that's so nice.
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Michael Bostic
Okay, so it's live at 9, I walk into the studio at 8. Oh, I wake up at 6.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
Theoretically I could wake up at 7 and shower and shave and be in my car at 7:20 with no problem. But Kelly gets up a little bit earlier and starts to prepare and I like, I get up to make her a cup of coffee. So I get up at 6. I think it'd probably be a mistake to get up at 7 because I'm not fully awake by your. It takes me, it takes me a little bit to get awake.
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Lauren Everts
I think you need two hours before you do anything.
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Michael Bostic
I agree.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah.
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Michael Bostic
So six. By 8:00 clock, I'm awake. I walk into the studio and I gotta tell you the hardest, I think the most nervous I get about anything during the day at 8:28, I do what's called a live cut in. And so for ABC News in New York City and the Triborough area. So anybody that's watching ABC and what that means is say, hey Mark, we're cut to Marc Consuels. He's going to tell you what's on live today. And so I have to tell them who's on the show and what we're doing. And the thought that I'm on the news really freaks me out.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Oh my gosh, it's so crazy.
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Michael Bostic
It freaks me out that I'm on ABC News in New York, the biggest market, you know, in the country.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
You're on one of the biggest television shows and that freaks you out.
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Michael Bostic
That to me that's being on the news is completely different. And I don't know why it feels more serious. Maybe it's totally serious. I'm reading off a teleprompter and I have a, I'm a little dyslexic if not a lot. And so I know that it's going to be an issue and I'm going to get something wrong probably and it's okay. And sometimes I don't get anything wrong and that's great. The first year they probably, they could have a blooper reel of the slip ups and the mess ups that I, that I do. But that to me is probably the most nerve wracking part of my workday.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Is the first time you see your wife when you make her coffee or on air.
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Michael Bostic
When I make her coffee.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay, so you see her in the morning before you guys go on.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, I see her. I know when she gets up and she goes to, you know, and then I see her in the, in the bathroom we're getting ready for.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And do you guys have a strategy sesh or do you just kind of throw it to the wall? It's like it.
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Michael Bostic
We never talk about work.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Wow.
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Michael Bostic
We never talk about.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Really? Michael, are you writing notes right now?
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Lauren Everts
That's the secret.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I am. Maybe. We're literally in the shower, dry brushing, like, trying to have one moment to myself of peace. And he's like, so what do you. What do you.
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Lauren Everts
Maybe that's the secret.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That's the secret.
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Lauren Everts
We talk too much about it.
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Michael Bostic
But on the flip side, when I was doing a show and she was doing this show, we would talk about work all the time. We would say, how was your day? And we talk about it now. We know how our day went.
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Lauren Everts
Ah.
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Michael Bostic
We may talk about something that struck us as funny.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
Like, that was really funny today. And we'll say that. Or, whoa, that was weird.
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Lauren Everts
Or, yeah, you don't really need the hey, honey, how was your day thing? Because you were.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, I still want that.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I still want it. Even if you were with me all day. Just so you know.
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Lauren Everts
Well, we still. Yeah, we. She's a big. We have to retalk about the thing.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah, I like. I like to take the cadaver on the table, resuscitate it.
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Lauren Everts
We'll dissect this moment later at.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Dan.
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Lauren Everts
We're going to talk about it.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Gillian know this. Turn it over.
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Michael Bostic
Really?
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Oh, yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Oh, my God.
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Michael Bostic
We don't even. You know, I got to tell you, there's this thing called talk show amnesia.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay?
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Michael Bostic
If you were to ask me who was on the show today, I know.
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Lauren Everts
Exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Serious. You don't know who was on the show?
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Michael Bostic
One person. Joanne Froggatt. Because I think the name is interesting and I love her. On Mobland.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That's interesting. It's almost like you're in your flow.
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Michael Bostic
In your routine, and then it's gone.
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Lauren Everts
You forget sometimes who you've spoken to or the conversation. It's not that you forget the person. You forget the conversation.
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Michael Bostic
Dude, I hope you remember this conversation.
- [28:43]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I will remember this conversation.
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Lauren Everts
You know why? We're gonna go to dinner and she's gonna be dead horse. She's gonna.
- [28:47]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Don't worry. It's good. It's all good. It's all good.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I think that we. When you. You. It seems when you do what you guys do for a living and kind of this goes with us, too, is like, you. You only have capacity for so much in your brain, and when you're interviewing all these different people, you have to, like, move on to the next one or you have to, like, clear capacity.
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Michael Bostic
Clear. Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Does that make sense?
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Michael Bostic
Bandwidth.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yes.
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Michael Bostic
Bandwidth's the better storage.
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Lauren Everts
Totally. I think being a host of a show is different than being interviewed because you kind of have to keep it moving along. And so you're. You're one trying to be present in the moment, but you're also trying to make sure that it's flowing and going well.
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Michael Bostic
That's right.
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Lauren Everts
So you're keeping kind of like two apart, imposing ideas in your head.
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Michael Bostic
We had Charlie Sheen on this week. I remember that interview.
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Lauren Everts
I talked to that guy.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I just started his book.
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Michael Bostic
Did you see the. No. You haven't seen the documentary?
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I haven't seen the documentary.
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Michael Bostic
We watched the documentary.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
Fascinating.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
You know what's so great? Because he's so honest.
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Michael Bostic
That's right.
- [29:39]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
It's refreshing.
- [29:40]
Michael Bostic
I agree.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
It's like he lays it all. He lays the cadaver on the table.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah. And all. And look under the covers.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Lets you look everywhere.
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Michael Bostic
Look under everywhere.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Everywhere.
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Michael Bostic
And to have his exes, you'll see on the. In the dock, he has his ex wives and they speak freely.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Wow.
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Michael Bostic
And there's still love there.
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Lauren Everts
I mean, Denise just went on the carpet with him. Right. I think for his event. She's been on the show, and I thought that was nice because they were together and it seemed like, you know, very.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
He had Heidi Fleiss on the show, who was like the madam that he was.
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Michael Bostic
She's pissed at him. She's really angry at him still.
- [30:12]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Wow.
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Michael Bostic
Because he had to testify.
- [30:14]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Oh.
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Michael Bostic
Against her.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
And I forgot about that. It's great. Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
You have had, in my opinion, one of the most successful marriages in Hollywood. How have you guys managed to do that? How have you blocked out the noise? I'm sure you could ask this a lot, but, like, what are. What are the secrets?
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Michael Bostic
After reflecting back, the first thing is that we would say that we're really not in Hollywood. We live in New York.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
And I. And I know it's kind of like a pedantic type of thing, but I think it's. There's something about New York.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah.
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Michael Bostic
That if you gotta be tough and there's a bunch of stuff going on every day bigger than you, and nobody has time for any of that stuff. So that's cool. I think that was also. I think that both our parents are still together. We have, you know, 60 years of our parents together. So that's. Was like, you know, there's no option. Nope. No option. You're getting through it. I'm crazy. About her, I would think that's a huge thing. I have, I guess, just the utmost respect for who she is as a person. I know she's got my back all the time. She's extremely patient with me. She was extremely patient with me.
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Lauren Everts
Write that down on the note card.
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Michael Bostic
Because I did not come, you know, ready made as a guy that was ready to do, you know, step up and be that person right away. And so she was, you know, I don't know. I feel like we really love the idea of sharing a life with someone that you really respect and love. And the different chapters in these books. And just like any book that you read, some of the chapters suck and some of the chapters are amazing and some of the chapters are kind of boring. And boring is great. And I love the idea of that, when it's all said and done that we'll have this, you know, if I'm lucky, we'll have this. We'll have this book of us being together and with multiple generations, you know, grandkids and, you know, we'll. We'll have done it together. These two silly kids who, on a wing and a prayer and like, went to Vegas and got married. It's not supposed to work, you know, and it. And so far, you know, knock on wood. In May, it'll be 30 years.
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Lauren Everts
Wow. Congratulations.
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Michael Bostic
Thanks.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Wow. I think you're onto something, what you said about the boredom thing. Because I tell Michael this, no marriage is like a Wednesday. It's like a Wednesday. You have to, like, get really comfortable with that Wednesday because it's going to be sort of like, you know, and.
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Michael Bostic
Thank God for that Wednesday.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah, I like a Wednesday. But, you know, sometimes a Wednesday is.
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Michael Bostic
Boring because you can't do Saturday night. Every day you can't do Saturday night.
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Lauren Everts
Consistency is not a bad thing.
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Michael Bostic
It's a great thing.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
But. But the generation, I think below us, maybe our generation too, they sometimes want Saturday night every single night.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And I think, like, you're really onto something about the boredom thing. You have to embrace the boredom part that comes with anyone and any couple.
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Michael Bostic
Sure, yeah.
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Lauren Everts
I mean, we think about this all the time. We've known each other for so long, pre Internet, pre social media. We haven't been together that long, but we didn't have all of these, like, for me, a similar thought as you. It's like there was no real other option than to, like, make things work when they get tough. It wasn't just like, oh, that annoyed me for the day. Now I'm quite cool on to the next. And yeah, it's like the swipe culture of, hey, something made me a little uncomfortable. I didn't like that just a little bit. It's like, next, next. Sure.
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Michael Bostic
I mean, we have so many friends that are not married anymore, you know, and I'm like, okay, well, that's, you know, I feel like if you can get through the other side, you know, albeit, there are obviously certain, certain circumstances where it should be done and certain behaviors should not be accepted and you know, all that, you know, that's not for this discussion. But if you can make it to the other side, I think it's so rewarding.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Lauren Everts
And it builds character in the relationship and it shows that you can kind of get things. Get through things together.
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Michael Bostic
That's right.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
You have three kids. What. What do you want to instill in your children?
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Michael Bostic
You know, I think we started really early on being on not being assholes. Can I curse on this? Oh, yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
So being polite. And one was having a conversation with one of my children recently, and I was like taking issue with certain, like, just like, like, you can't say that. And this is. And I'm like, I'm not. It wasn't so much of a lecturer. And he said, just know that outside of this house, you get nothing but good reports from about me. I'm like, you're right, you're right. So. But, you know, I said it's not a bad thing to bring that kind of into this house. So that would be number one to have some empathy and to be driven to have that inner drive for themselves, to do things greater and better than we ever have, to be better than us. However that is. I mean, it's not money or just to be. Just to be. Have a passion and go after it and be happy or, you know, we're super proud of our kids. And we recently, since we've been empty nesters over the past few years because our youngest went to college, we essentially are empty nesters for the past four years until he would come home. And this past summer, we planned a trip to Italy for the first time. Just. Just killing me for two weeks. And we had to stop over in Switzerland to visit Lola and her boyfriend and their family. And then we went to Italy. And my daughter's like, where are you guys going? I said, we're going to go to this place. She said, oh, my God, I love that place. She says, do you mind if I stop by for a few days? We'd love that. And then my son, who Just graduated, called. He said, what are you guys doing? And we said, we're in Italy. He said, yeah, you mentioned that. Does that offer still stand? Of course. And so he flew over. And so we're sitting there with our kids who are in their 20s that still want to be with us and still want to hang out with us. And I think that, to us, might be a reflection of certain few things that we're doing. We did. Right.
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Lauren Everts
It's very full circle in what you said in the beginning about family. There's this. That clip that I'm sure many people have seen. And there's a guy interviewing a billionaire, and he says, what does success look like to you? And the guy said, when you get to an age where your grown children actually want to take the time to come and spend it with you.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
He said, that's basically success. And this guy had a lot of financial business success in the world.
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Michael Bostic
I agree. It's great. It's. I. And, yeah, sure, it would have been a little more. A little more romantic. A lot more romantic. We had this nice room, and there was a room downstairs, and there was a room across from us, and our daughter decided to take the room across from us in Italy. I'm like, why are you staying next door to us? Go downstairs.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
At least it wasn't a joint room.
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Michael Bostic
No, it wasn't. But it was literally, you know, 10ft away. Was across the hall. I'm like, gosh, please, just stay downstairs.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Tell us about your entrepreneurship outside of the show, because I know you just got a team. You gotta tell us about that. Is it. Bought a team. Got a team.
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Michael Bostic
Bought a stake in a team.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Bought a stake in a team.
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Michael Bostic
Stake in an Italian team. Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay, tell us about that.
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Michael Bostic
You know, I played soccer not really well, you know, but it's definitely a passion of mine. I love the sport so much. You know, being raised in Europe for, you know, first part of my life and having European, you know, my mom's Italian. Really falling in love with Italian football. It's been a big, huge part of my life. I love it. I love it. I didn't get any soccer players as kids, which was, you know, a moment that I had to come to terms with because I. That's what I wanted. I wanted a soccer player. Didn't get one, but that's okay. They're awesome. So when this opportunity came, it came out of nowhere through a friend of a friend. It was an opportunity to buy a stake in this club. And it went something like this. There's A fifth division team in this region of Italy. They used to be in the third division. They went bankrupt, so the federation kicked them out, and they have to start in the fifth division, and their season starts in two weeks. And I said, okay, and do we have any players? And. And the partner who eventually became a partner said, no. I said, okay, do we have a coach? He said, no. Do we have a stadium, maybe? I said, when does the season start? He says, two weeks. I said, let's do it. I think this is awesome. This is great. And the main thing was that, listen, this town of Campo Basso had a storied history in Italian football. They never made it past the second division, but still, second division soccer in Italy is humongous. You know, Serie A is the ultimate. That's, you know, that's the best. But even in the lower leagues, it can be massive for these towns. And they were going to lose their team unless we stepped in and did something about it. And I said, this is awesome. This is like the best fantasy league I could ever possibly be part of. And that was three years ago.
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Lauren Everts
And so what is your interaction with the team like, kind of day to day or month to month look like?
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Michael Bostic
You know, I thought it was going to be more of a silent partnership, but my partner, Matt Rosetta, who's amazing, and he'd been involved in Italian soccer a few years before that, he does a lot of the heavy lifting, but he brought me in really early on with a lot of the player selections, a lot of the coach and general manager selections, dealing with sponsors, dealing with all facets of it. So it was kind of like an MBA in professional sports that I, like, just jumped into. And I knew that I was spending a lot of time on the phone. I knew that I was. But every time Kelly would walk in the room and I'm speaking Italian because we're talking to Italy, and she would, like, turn around and walk out, I'm like, oh, man, this is a lot of time. And this has taken a lot of time, but I loved it. Loved it. And getting to our first two years, we won two championships. We made it right back up to the third division, where the team was before we bought them and which is where we currently sit. Currently sit.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
It sounds creative, too, for you. Like, to be able to put all the pieces together.
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Michael Bostic
It pushes all my buttons. The competitive side, I'm extremely. I'm extremely competitive, typically with myself, but then when it's soccer, when it's my soccer team, I'm very competitive, and it's creative. We have to design uniforms, which I think are very cool. I mean, that they're going to be wearing that kit for the full season, and it's amazing. And there's drama every day. There are people. There are fires to put out every single day. I do like problem solving, so it pushes. It pushes that button for me too. A little bit of problem solving, and you get really comfortable with. With losing as well, which I probably needed to do a little bit.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I think that you should do a little marriage therapy on Michael and I. So I saw you guys house. I think it was an arc digest. I want to say somewhere online, I saw your beautiful home.
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Michael Bostic
Yes.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Did you have a say? Did Kelly have a say? Did you guys work together? Because we butt heads in the design department. But it sounds like you like to.
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Lauren Everts
Don't you think she should not maybe, like, step into, like, the garage portion of.
- [41:18]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
No, the garage is all mine.
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Lauren Everts
I feel like that's like, an overstep.
- [41:21]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I don't know.
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Michael Bostic
I would say you got to give her something, then she's got to give you something on that. Like, does she have a hair sink maybe, that she can get her hair done?
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
A hair sink. Oh, hair sink. Like a blowout bar?
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I thought you meant, like a vanity.
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Michael Bostic
Well, maybe I'll like a place you can get. You can get your hair.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah, give me a haircut, and then.
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Michael Bostic
You'Ll have your garage. Don't you have to set up negotiations? Mike? It's negotiations.
- [41:43]
Lauren Everts
I want to set up a cigar room. I know you're bigger. I have.
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Michael Bostic
I have a cigar room.
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Lauren Everts
Yeah, see, you have that.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That's where I saw the cigar room that I sent to you.
- [41:49]
Lauren Everts
That's important. That's important to have.
- [41:50]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
So did you have hands on, like, authority?
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Michael Bostic
I love architecture. Design is. You know, I work with people that are really good at that, and I do have opinions, but I work with people that give me just a few choices. And I know what I like. Just. I know what I like, and I know what I don't like. I don't necessarily know how to create, like, a color palette or any of that stuff, but, like, spatial things in architecture, I am super fascinated about.
- [42:21]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
So is it Kelly's infusion of her opinion on the design, or do you feel like you have, like, your own.
- [42:27]
Lauren Everts
She's trying to lead you down the route of, like. You don't have to say, but it sounds like you have a say.
- [42:31]
Michael Bostic
I think. I think if you.
- [42:33]
Lauren Everts
Next time.
- [42:33]
Michael Bostic
I think if you were to ask Kelly, she would Say it's my. I. I was a driving force through every detail.
- [42:40]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Really?
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Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauren Everts
Well.
- [42:42]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Huh.
- [42:42]
Lauren Everts
Looks like I'm going have to be.
- [42:46]
Michael Bostic
But she did say, I think I would love a hair sink. I go, perfect, this is how we're going to do this and what do you want? And I think she's super happy about everything in the house.
- [42:56]
Lauren Everts
So I might give you a hair sink.
- [42:58]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
You know, though, with the hair sink, you have to attach a special water thing or there's like something you have to do to the water.
- [43:04]
Michael Bostic
A filter.
- [43:05]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I don't know what it's called.
- [43:06]
Michael Bostic
Drain.
- [43:07]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
No. You have to like get something in the house that connects. I don't know what it's called.
- [43:11]
Lauren Everts
We're not going to solve it in this episode.
- [43:13]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah.
- [43:13]
Lauren Everts
Okay. One of the biggest topics on this show is health and wellness.
- [43:18]
Michael Bostic
Okay.
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Lauren Everts
And I know this could be a whole episode with you. It could be. If you and I were sitting down, I would be drilling you for sure hours just about your routines. But what are the kind of non negotiables for you? Like, what are you doing every week, every day? Like the things you keep coming back to to take care of yourself at.
- [43:30]
Michael Bostic
Least four or five days in the gym.
- [43:32]
Lauren Everts
Weightlifting.
- [43:32]
Michael Bostic
Yep.
- [43:33]
Lauren Everts
Okay.
- [43:33]
Michael Bostic
Pretty strict on my diet. I got this crazy calculator that calculates my macros.
- [43:39]
Lauren Everts
The chrono type of thing.
- [43:41]
Michael Bostic
Chronometer.
- [43:42]
Lauren Everts
Chronometer.
- [43:42]
Michael Bostic
Love it, Love it.
- [43:44]
Lauren Everts
It just tells you.
- [43:44]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Are you eating mainly meat? Are you a vegetarian? Like, what's your.
- [43:47]
Michael Bostic
I'm a. I do. I do eat a lot of meat and fish. I'm not a vegetarian. I hit my protein goals because I know that we're. As I get older, I'm losing muscle daily. At least in my mind. That's the fight that I'm fighting. So I want to keep fueling that sleep. I'm getting better at. I'm getting better at sleep.
- [44:06]
Lauren Everts
Have you guys tried the eight sleep yet?
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Michael Bostic
I was one of the first. Yeah. Do you have any sleep?
- [44:11]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, I had a fighter for it.
- [44:12]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Do you know how to turn it on?
- [44:13]
Michael Bostic
Yes.
- [44:14]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
No. Him.
- [44:14]
Lauren Everts
Of course. It's on every night. It's amazing.
- [44:16]
Michael Bostic
But it is. I have to say, though, it is a little clumsy if, you know, if you. We have it in a couple places, so it tells me I'm somewhere else sometimes. I'm not there. I'm here. I think the best feature of the eight sleep, obviously is the cooling. Do you like it hot?
- [44:33]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I like it cool.
- [44:33]
Michael Bostic
Oh, you like it cool or cold? My wife likes it hot all night.
- [44:38]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What do you do?
- [44:39]
Michael Bostic
But it's split down the middle.
- [44:41]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Oh, I didn't know that.
- [44:42]
Lauren Everts
We have different settings.
- [44:43]
Michael Bostic
I can control my. I'm like in a. You could refrigerate meat on my side. And she's. You could cook meat on her side. But I think the best feature of eight sleep is how to wake up. Is that vibration the best? No, more like alarms. It just, it just.
- [45:01]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
He still uses them.
- [45:02]
Michael Bostic
It's the gentle voom, voom.
- [45:04]
Lauren Everts
I need that alarm across the room to make me.
- [45:06]
Michael Bostic
The vibration won't wake you up.
- [45:08]
Lauren Everts
It will wake me up, but I might pass back out. I get up like our kids and it may be. I don't know what's going on with these school schedules. Why did he start so early?
- [45:16]
Michael Bostic
And why don't they. Why aren't they in school all the time?
- [45:18]
Lauren Everts
I don't know. Like, I don't. But my whole thing is like, somebody should lobby about why these kids have to start. It's probably not good for them from a health perspective either.
- [45:24]
Michael Bostic
Well, how early is early?
- [45:25]
Lauren Everts
Like they have to be at school 7:30. At 7:40.
- [45:29]
Michael Bostic
Is that early? I, I forget.
- [45:32]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
It's. It's hard to rip them out of bed. It's early because they won't get up early. Stuff food in their face when they don't want to eat.
- [45:37]
Michael Bostic
And then like, it is early.
- [45:40]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Girls, they don't like, you know, it's just, just, it's a lot of like.
- [45:43]
Michael Bostic
Yeah, I don't, I forgot about that. I haven't had to deal with that.
- [45:46]
Lauren Everts
And then they go and they get stuck all the time.
- [45:48]
Michael Bostic
Yeah. Strep throat.
- [45:51]
Lauren Everts
Oh, we haven't had, we haven't had.
- [45:53]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Hand to mouth or whatever.
- [45:54]
Michael Bostic
Yeah, hand to mouth. Hand and mouth.
- [45:56]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Hand in mouth.
- [45:57]
Michael Bostic
Hand and mouth. Any lice? No, not yet, but no lice we haven't had. I think we, we had a scare once, but that was, that was about it.
- [46:03]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
If they get lice on my eight sleep, it's going to be a hard one for me.
- [46:08]
Michael Bostic
But sleep is a big, a big one. Huge, huge.
- [46:13]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
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Michael Bostic
I do sauna.
- [54:19]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
- [54:19]
Michael Bostic
I love that a lot. I do cold plunge. I find it hard to do it in a place that it's cold outside.
- [54:26]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, well, that is hard, you know.
- [54:28]
Michael Bostic
So I do it when it's really, like, warm and I can get out into the sun right afterwards. I'm a bit of a wimp that way, but, yeah, it's great.
- [54:37]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
If you were to give our audience one piece of advice when it comes to interviewing. Say someone wants to be an interview. They're a podcaster. I'm asking this for my selfish self too. What would that be? What. What makes a good interviewer?
- [54:50]
Michael Bostic
I guess being really interested. Being curious. Yeah, being interested and being okay with going off script a little bit sometimes.
- [54:58]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Yeah.
- [54:59]
Michael Bostic
I wouldn't say. You know, usually we know what people don't want to talk about. I'm not saying going there, but kind of going, Maybe it's okay to make a left turn at Albuquerque and go into another something you're curious about. I find that fun, especially with an open format like you guys have, where you have time to talk. And on our show, it's pretty two to three minute segments, so you're pretty limited to how deep you can go.
- [55:24]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And so when you only have two to three minute segments. And what if someone says something that shouldn't be on there? Does that happen?
- [55:31]
Michael Bostic
It does happen, yeah. Sometimes they gotta write it and they, you know, it's way out of my depth of what people are doing with the commercial time and all that stuff. But, yeah, they're telling me to wrap it up. And I, in my head, I'm like, all right, we gotta wrap this up. And they're going. And there's a bit of leeway. Sometimes it makes the later segments a little shorter.
- [55:48]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Do you see the guests before they go on?
- [55:50]
Michael Bostic
Sometimes.
- [55:51]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
So it just depends.
- [55:52]
Michael Bostic
Yeah, it depends. In the. In the old studio, it was much easier to see the guests because our. Our dressing rooms were across the hall from them. Now they're in a different section. They're all over. They're. We're in a We're. We're in the new Disney building downtown. They're in a green rooms building. It's beautiful.
- [56:07]
Lauren Everts
That's a. That's a nice.
- [56:08]
Michael Bostic
It's a really. And they're down the hall. If I have a friend coming that I know, I'll find them and I'll go say hi to them. And, you know.
- [56:15]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And do you rip out of there right when you're done or do you have to do, like a protocol before you leave?
- [56:20]
Michael Bostic
When I'm done, I usually rip out of there.
- [56:23]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That's so nice. What a dream job.
- [56:24]
Michael Bostic
Yep, it is.
- [56:26]
Lauren Everts
It's funny, though, as you were talking, whenever I've been on news type programs, I find it challenging because with this, you can kind of slow and stop and go, and we can go in a whole bunch of different directions. It doesn't really matter. I find myself talking really fast on those.
- [56:40]
Michael Bostic
You have to get to the points.
- [56:41]
Lauren Everts
Yeah. And you can, like, hear somebody in your ear saying, like, you know, rabbit up, buddy.
- [56:44]
Michael Bostic
We don't have any of that. Thank God. We don't have any of those things in our ears. But we had people going, oh, that.
- [56:50]
Lauren Everts
Would drive me nuts.
- [56:51]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And is the audience. Are you feeding off the audience's energy?
- [56:54]
Michael Bostic
Yes. You know, again, during COVID we didn't have an audience when I was. When I would fill in and it was cool. It was fine. You get used to it with an audience. It's great. We found that for some reason on Tuesdays, the audiences are more reserved. It's a Tuesday audience. I don't know why it's Tuesdays. Maybe people in general are a little more reserved on Tuesdays. So you don't take it personal if it's a little quieter. You just know that it's a Tuesday audience.
- [57:18]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Who have been some of your favorite people that you've interviewed.
- [57:21]
Michael Bostic
Carol Burnett was absolutely amazing. Cate Blanchett, amazing. I'm such a big fan of hers.
- [57:28]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That's a good one.
- [57:29]
Michael Bostic
Again, if I could remember everybody who's been on I told you, I have a little bit of amnesia.
- [57:33]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
That makes sense, though. That's exactly what happens to us. I feel like.
- [57:36]
Lauren Everts
Well, I just think when you talk for a living, you talk to a lot of people for a living. It's not that you. Again, if you see some on the street, you'd be like, oh, I remember. But it's just like trying to recall it off the top of your head is challenging.
- [57:46]
Michael Bostic
Yeah.
- [57:46]
Lauren Everts
Yep.
- [57:47]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
We have rapid fire questions for you.
- [57:49]
Michael Bostic
Let's do it.
- [57:49]
Lauren Everts
Best piece of advice you've ever received.
- [57:51]
Michael Bostic
Never take advice from someone who's more screwed up than you.
- [57:55]
Lauren Everts
That's a great piece of advice.
- [57:57]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What's your favorite thing about working with your wife?
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Michael Bostic
That I'm working. I'm in the presence of greatness.
- [58:02]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Oh, yeah. Do you say that about me?
- [58:04]
Lauren Everts
Yes. I say it to everyone all day long, but only when you're not around.
- [58:08]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
It's a good tip.
- [58:09]
Lauren Everts
I want to get your head too big. Biggest risk you've ever taken today?
- [58:15]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Sure.
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Michael Bostic
Oh, gosh. I think I roll the dice a lot. God, I can't really think of. I would guess, you know, sometimes it might be like, a piece of real estate. Like, this is gonna work. I wouldn't say getting married was the easiest, best bet I ever made. I would say, yeah, probably, like, just, like, maybe financial stuff.
- [58:36]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What's the most underrated restaurant in New York City?
- [58:39]
Michael Bostic
Most underrated restaurant in New York City.
- [58:42]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Like, where are you and Mark and Keith and Kelly going? Like, where's the place?
- [58:47]
Michael Bostic
Underrated? Secret spot Mullet. Do you know have any. Do you have any suggestions for that? Oh, gosh.
- [58:56]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What's that?
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Michael Bostic
Oh, yeah. Oh, you know what? Yes, that's right. That's right. I would say my dining room table in my house.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Tell us about Sunday night Chinese.
- [59:06]
Michael Bostic
Sunday night Chinese is. Well, first of all, it's a tradition here in New York City that Chinese food is a big deal.
- [59:14]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Okay.
- [59:14]
Michael Bostic
You know, we. Not so often. Not often enough. But we'll get together with some great friends, and we'll catch up. And they're the type of friends that it doesn't matter if you've seen them once in six months or once, you know, or twice that weekend. You can pick up and plug in right where you left off. I love those kind of friends.
- [59:36]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Last and final question. I think I know what you're gonna say. What's your favorite guilty pleasure?
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Michael Bostic
A cigar.
- [59:43]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
What kind? Michael's a big cigar guy.
- [59:45]
Michael Bostic
Are you?
- [59:46]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, I don't. I don't say big, but I love. I love a good cigar. And as I've gotten older, I've gotten more into my. Less alcohol, more cigars.
- [59:52]
Michael Bostic
Yeah.
- [59:52]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Which one should he try?
- [59:53]
Lauren Everts
I think they're much better for you, actually. And people that people don't like when I say that.
- [59:56]
Michael Bostic
Yeah. I would say that my favorite right now is a Romeo and Julieta. Short Churchill. Short Churchill.
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Lauren Everts
Short Churchill.
- [60:06]
Michael Bostic
Short Churchill.
- [60:07]
Lauren Everts
So, like, the.
- [60:08]
Michael Bostic
It's like a. It's a nice gauge. Yeah, it's a kind of a robusto size.
- [60:11]
Lauren Everts
It was like 30 or 40 minutes.
- [60:13]
Michael Bostic
Yeah.
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Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Whenever I've had one too many, I take a couple puffs of that. But I forget that you can't swallow.
- [60:19]
Michael Bostic
It or you mean inhale.
- [60:21]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Inhale.
- [60:22]
Lauren Everts
Pull that clip, Taylor. Pull that clip.
- [60:25]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
And then like every single morning I wake up and I'm like, oh, my God, why do I feel so bad? And it's because I took a couple swallows of your cigar.
- [60:34]
Lauren Everts
Swallows, Timothy. Pull that clip. Splice it up. Yeah, no, that. That I think is another reason people have a bad time with those, is they don't realize you can't smoke it like a cigarette.
- [60:42]
Michael Bostic
I think it's more. That one's more of like an hour, 45 minutes to an hour cigarette. Sorry, Cigar.
- [60:47]
Lauren Everts
Okay, so it's a question.
- [60:48]
Michael Bostic
And what is your favorite one right now?
- [60:50]
Lauren Everts
I don't know. I don't have a favorite one. I was. A buddy of mine gave me these Monte Cristos. Oh, shit. Which ones were they?
- [60:58]
Michael Bostic
Edmundos.
- [60:59]
Lauren Everts
I don't remember.
- [61:00]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
You gotta know your cigars before this interview.
- [61:02]
Lauren Everts
Like I said, I'm not.
- [61:03]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
This is unprepared.
- [61:04]
Lauren Everts
I did get a nice cigar.
- [61:05]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
You should've seen a cigar room.
- [61:07]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, well, I don't have a cigar room yet. Because you're worried about your hair room or whatever it's gonna be.
- [61:11]
Michael Bostic
You have to have good ventilation in the cigar room.
- [61:13]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, I've been gifted some. What are the ones that you got me from, Vic?
- [61:19]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I have no idea.
- [61:20]
Lauren Everts
I just said these are Arturo Fuentes rare pinks.
- [61:23]
Michael Bostic
Amazing.
- [61:23]
Lauren Everts
Yeah, those ones are really good.
- [61:25]
Michael Bostic
Those are great.
- [61:25]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Rare pinks. That's cute.
- [61:26]
Lauren Everts
But I'm new to it. Right. So I don't have like my go to. But I do.
- [61:30]
Michael Bostic
Do you watch a game while you're smoking it or are you with your buddies?
- [61:33]
Lauren Everts
Either I'm with buddies. Or you read a book outside and I'll be by myself. It's very meditative for me.
- [61:39]
Michael Bostic
I agree.
- [61:40]
Lauren Everts
And it's done sometimes. A lot of times I like it almost when I'm not being social, just to kind of sit and think.
- [61:46]
Michael Bostic
My daughter, who lives in London, called me the other day and she said, dad, I was walking on the street and I. A guy, somebody, a gentleman, was smoking a cigar and it made me think of you. Oh, and she loves the smell of the smell. The smell of a cigar.
- [62:00]
Lauren Everts
Yeah. No, I think it's like a very. Especially now is like limiting a little bit of alcohol. Especially alcohol. I've had some good times with alcohol, but as you get older, it's rough. Especially with those young kids getting up in the morning so, you know, I can have a cigar and feel fine the next day if I, if I have two drinks or even smell any, I'm done for a week.
- [62:15]
Michael Bostic
Yeah.
- [62:17]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Where can everyone find you?
- [62:18]
Michael Bostic
9Am on check your local listings. And either we're on multiple networks. 9am in New York on ABC.
- [62:27]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Thank you so much for coming on. What an honor to interview the interviewer of the world.
- [62:33]
Michael Bostic
You guys are awesome. I really hope you get your hair sink.
- [62:36]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
I will.
- [62:37]
Michael Bostic
And I really hope you get your cigar remove.
- [62:39]
Lauren Everts
I will.
- [62:39]
Michael Bostic
Our cigar garage.
- [62:40]
Lauryn Evarts Bosstick
Where. I don't know where you're going to put that.
- [62:41]
Lauren Everts
Well, now we'll have to make some compromises. Thank you, Mark.
- [62:45]
Michael Bostic
Thank you, guys.